@@plat216 you can just turn your engine off and get close to the ground, your plane will become room temperature, so I doubt the missles will be able to lock when you do that
The biplane engine is too weak, the body wasn't even metal, and this caused wackyness with heat signature. Like WWII performance fighters are significantly more visible from like 300-500 meter IRL, and that was with early AIM-9. Fun fact, North Koreans specifically use wooden biplanes for reconaissance because the South Koreans either can't or don't bother shooting.
Fun fact! This is an actual strategy used back in ww2 by the Night Witches squadron; They flew Po2 planes, whose top speed was the stall speed of the German fighters, making them practically unhitteable
@@eloryosnak4100It's always worth remembering that it was a sortie of Fairey Swordfish torpedo bombers that jammed the rudder of the Bismarck. The warship had outdated mounting systems for several of its flak guns which couldn't properly track the nimble biplanes, giving the pilots room to strike.
@@irregularassassin6380wasn't it actually opposite with flak guns being up to date and their bullets just ripped through biplanes without damaging them because WW2 planes were made out of metal and had thicker wings?
Ive gotten a few jet kills with a monoplane before (and even dodged MANY missiles) but never with a biplane. I can safely say that you have definitely earned the right to forever brag
@@Mr_Wolfkin they usually do but shvak HE rounds suck compared to other 20mm. they have better fragmentation rounds usually but those are not available to the I-153P
It’s rare to see people actually laugh and enjoy War Thunder instead of being a ton of sweats, the person who used an A-10 to shoot a missile at you definitely did that just to cope with his low scores lmao. Good content
@@Volti-Vagra I do think it’s an issue with armament. Most have 7.7 or similar as their only options with a few such as the Italian ones having 12.7s. The Italians do have the best biplanes overall imo, but I still don’t think it’s enough
@@Volti-VagraAs far as I know their main problem is a lack of speed. Plus, helicopters can actually hover, which a biplane cannot do. Granted, a skilled bi or triplane pilot can pull a 180-degree yaw maneuver to briefly fire behind them, but this was only something the aces of WWI could pull off. (there is a record of pilots doing this maneuver in the war. Shit's crazy.)
I used to bring I-153s with rockets into games with Mig-15s (back when they were the highest tier jets) and did manage to shoot down quite a few of them, and way back then the award for doing so is 20k SL and it's pretty lucrative.
I do very occasionally stream on Twitch. Link to that is in the description. I guess if more people share your feelings on the matter maybe I’ll have to start streaming more! Thank you regardless :)
There’s a general rule of thumb when it comes to fighting biplanes and it’s to never turn fight against one Next time you do this engage in turn fights
The jets literally can't engage in turn fights with the biplane. There are dumb players who would try, but jets are so fast compared to them that it would be impossible. By the time they're midway through the turn they're already 2km away.
Imagine if there was an enemy jet and it just came up alongside him, looked at the small he 51 and just decided you were not worth the bullets and just flew away like in the irl incident of the ye old pub, an American b17 that was spared by a German in a Messerschmitt bf 109
Pros of jets: Fast and big gun Cons of jets: bad maneuverability, pilots can't handle anything more than 9 G's Pros of biplanes: Small, can't be locked on, extremely maneuverable, pilots can handle up to 20 G's, very low stalling speed Cons of biplanes: literally nothing
that F-5 hitting you at Mach Fuck really didnt plan ahead did he lmfao! "MY plane is heavier than his, AND his plane is made out of Paper! if i ram him, HE will disintegrate and i will live! GENIOUS!" bro forgot that if a ball of Paper hit the ground at Mach Fuck, the ground would not be so grounded anymore lol.
Biplanes are actually good at top tier tbh. Despite their obvious speed, when all your team die and the enemies come towards you looking for the last players you can out manauver them and they will find it difficult to lock you with IR so they are a force to be reckoned with lol
Me and my friends actually did this as a strat to grind silver. We weren't good enough to reliably make the battles at our own (admittedly low) br, so we'd load in with reserves and biplanes to go for whatever the punching up achievement is, the one that gives a few thousand silver for killing a plane that's of a significantly higher br. Even if you only got 1 kill, you didn't have repair costs which made it economical. To cap it all, biplane have great maneuverability as compared to the faster planes can can outturn many things.
This happened to me that other day in a custom game with my friend. Me in my trusty 1.0 Krasnolutsky’s I-15bis against his jet that I can’t remember the name of. I don’t see you on my radar. You must be in one of those stealth fighters he says. (Of course I am. I begin my play into the psychological warfare) he sees me and laughs. I try to dodge his missiles. I failed miserably. I respawn. I climb really high. I lie and say I’m flying around the water. He can’t find me (I’m stalking him 3,000 feet above him) He doesn’t believe my plane can fly that high. (I play more into the psychological warfare and tell him that I don’t think I can either.) I begin my dive. He still doesn’t know where I am. (I’m right above him) Since he’s traveling so fast, I have to lead him so far. He says he hears my engine as multiple rounds of 7.62 zip right past him. He can’t believe it. I hit his wing. Then I hit him in a critical area. He catches fire. I fly right past him. I pull up. He can’t maneuver fast enough to turn around to get me. But I can. I send another volley of 7.62 his way. It misses but his engine shuts down. 2 of my 4 guns jam because I fired more than 2 rounds and my barrels melted. It might as well be the wright brothers plane at this point. I fire again. I hit him again but my other 2 guns jammed. As a true Soviet Soldier I use myself as the bullet. I ram into him to no avail because my plane is made of origami paper. I try again. His wing comes off but so does mine. We both slowly fall to our deaths. He offers that we both eject and fight eachother with our sidearms. I refuse the chance to live as I unskillfully steer my shambled plane into his jet one last time and we crash and burn into a fiery inferno.
I-153P is perfect for this because high maneuverability 2x 20 mm cannons with good damage on HE rounds and normal speed (for biplane). I personally killed 5 jets with this in one round
Subbed for that manly giggle. I know the people who take the game seriously look down on it but taking low tier into high tier can be so much fun. I love fighting semi-modern tanks with M18s.
tanks is quite different than air in that regard tbh. This was a great vid and I dont think its fair to say people shouldnt be able to take 1.0 into top tier, because the game lets you. I do strongly dislike having 2-3 teamates basically gone though, considering wins do grant much better RP/SL bonuses. I just wish WT would stop this mechanic, in RB at least. I dont see how it would ever be an issue in AB
Im a bit new to war thunder. When I advance to the higher BRs I wanna take a biplane to a 10.0 BR game with my friends as well, you guys have convinced me xD awesome vid, hella funny and contagious laughs
This reminds me of the time a modern destroyer came up to a wooden and steel destroyer and the wooden and steel one went "Why are you here?" "Just escorting the most beautiful ship known to man."
the only documented jet taken down by a biplane happened in the Korean war because the jet tried to shot down the biplane but couldn't because he was too fast so he slowed down in an attempt to shot it, only to stall and crash
I am proud to say that i have a mig21bis kill with my rank 2 J22A, i crit them, followed them as he circled around thinking i could keep up with their speed, then crit it again, set it on fire, follow, and he crashed after one wing came off. It was shooting flares like if i had technology or something. Lucky i even have a 12mm cannon
I remember a story of a guy who has a prop plane helping the military with a practice of some sort and driving the plane backwards, provoking some funny responses by the guys in jets
Fun fact: Missiles will not explode and kill you with pure kinetic damage! Some one forgot to switch the plane and I got ripped apart by a missile passing through me...
my friends got 11.3 jets and my best is 4.3 so yesterday i hopped on my 1.3 premium bf 109 and played a few rounds 11.3 br. Half of the games i didnt got to the middle in time but when i got there i acually got kills. And holy, one time i got 22000 for one kill assist
Whether you believe it or not IRL a biplane has a confirmed kill on a jet fighter. This happened during the Korean war where a F-94 tried to shoot down a biplane and because it's missiles didn't work it slowed down below it's stall speed and crashed.
I technically got a kill on a het in a biplane once, we both went into a headon, i hit them a couple times, they missed me entirely but they had too much speed and as they trued to turn arround they crashed lmao. I did not take out a jet, but i got credit for ones death
The fact that most heat-seeking missiles cant even lock onto biplanes, let alone track one properly, is just so funny to me
get within 1km, even an aim-9e can track a propeller plane; aim-9l and r60ms have no problem obtaining lock from 3km
@@plat216 you can just turn your engine off and get close to the ground, your plane will become room temperature, so I doubt the missles will be able to lock when you do that
irl that can happen
The biplane engine is too weak, the body wasn't even metal, and this caused wackyness with heat signature. Like WWII performance fighters are significantly more visible from like 300-500 meter IRL, and that was with early AIM-9.
Fun fact, North Koreans specifically use wooden biplanes for reconaissance because the South Koreans either can't or don't bother shooting.
@@plat216 not the yak-9t
i love the fact that the jets are having trouble firing at the biplanes due to the fact that they outspeed them by so much.
Fun fact! This is an actual strategy used back in ww2 by the Night Witches squadron;
They flew Po2 planes, whose top speed was the stall speed of the German fighters, making them practically unhitteable
@@eloryosnak4100It's always worth remembering that it was a sortie of Fairey Swordfish torpedo bombers that jammed the rudder of the Bismarck. The warship had outdated mounting systems for several of its flak guns which couldn't properly track the nimble biplanes, giving the pilots room to strike.
I got pilot sniped by a P-26 in a F4S, in arcade mode too
One time I killed an f16 in a biplane and got god mode with a 500% booster lmao
@@irregularassassin6380wasn't it actually opposite with flak guns being up to date and their bullets just ripped through biplanes without damaging them because WW2 planes were made out of metal and had thicker wings?
Ive gotten a few jet kills with a monoplane before (and even dodged MANY missiles) but never with a biplane. I can safely say that you have definitely earned the right to forever brag
I killed a F-16 in a Ki-10 once. XD
I've only ever killed jets with monoplanes.
Depends on the biplane. A few have 20 mm cannons. Those can definitely destroy an unaware jet.
You clearly didn’t watch the vid cuz they never managed to kill anyone
You mind telling me which is harder to fly and why? I don’t play the game
That Russian Biplane with the 20mm's would be an absolute menace
💯
Chaika?
Except it only gets HE belts with a max 7mm pen lead core tracer ☠️
@@burlyheads HE belts clap
@@Mr_Wolfkin they usually do but shvak HE rounds suck compared to other 20mm. they have better fragmentation rounds usually but those are not available to the I-153P
"Are we toxic for this?... is this toxic?..."
"We've doing nothing but giving away free kills if anything we're a charity 😅"
Shit that’s a way better way to look at it lmao
these "kills" dont award any RP and they are putting their team in a disadvantage by removing two normal players from the server. this IS toxic af
We found the sweaty tryhard
Its toxic to YOUR team lmao
@@acx1337
You say that as if the players they are replacing aren't premium bombers lmao
Faith, Hope, and Charity showed up 20-40 years too late to defend Malta.
You really got me going down history rabbit holes
> when they send in the B-team because the A-Team is stuck in traffic
B-Team? We’ll take that as a compliment
It's definitely a compliment!@@Holdiniful
B for Biplane, obviously! @@Holdiniful
12:26 this is so stupid but rob saying "yikes" 3 times because he can't notice witch chat he is in killed me hahaha
That shit had us cracking up too lol
That's a witching
Its honestly unacceptable that the bi-planes dont have access to the aim-9x and aim-120
Fix your shit, Bungie
@@Holdinifulblaming Bungie, the correct move
@@rath3074Been doing that for 20 years
THEY TAKE ALL THE BLAME EVER SINCE THE SHITSHOW THAT IS D2
hear me out cesssna 172 with sidewinders
"It's not the plane, it's the pilot" - Top Gun Maverick
It’s rare to see people actually laugh and enjoy War Thunder instead of being a ton of sweats, the person who used an A-10 to shoot a missile at you definitely did that just to cope with his low scores lmao. Good content
I mean it was totally deserved but also yes hahaha
honestly its just nice to see warthunder content that isnt streight up treason.
Pretty sure he lost money on that shot. Dude had zero thoughts before he pickled
"We're here to help!"
War Thunder: *You are spamming the chat with nonsense, S T O P I T !*
Honestly, if the biplanes had better armament they would be somewhere near viable. They would fill the same niche as helicopters
@@Volti-Vagra I do think it’s an issue with armament. Most have 7.7 or similar as their only options with a few such as the Italian ones having 12.7s. The Italians do have the best biplanes overall imo, but I still don’t think it’s enough
@@Volti-VagraAs far as I know their main problem is a lack of speed. Plus, helicopters can actually hover, which a biplane cannot do. Granted, a skilled bi or triplane pilot can pull a 180-degree yaw maneuver to briefly fire behind them, but this was only something the aces of WWI could pull off. (there is a record of pilots doing this maneuver in the war. Shit's crazy.)
@@LettuceGayming If you are just talking about fire power, the Soviets have a biplane with 20mm cannons. It also has retractable landing gear iirc.
@@commandoepsilon4664 yes, however the chaika even without 20mm has obscene armament, those ShKAS guns are so dumb
I brought my brand new friend into a Jet game with my A-4E, and he only played one game, but in that one game he killed an F-104 XD
Tbf F-104 users have zero skill
@@skip1383 Let his friend be bro. A new player (probably in a biplane) killing a jet in his first few matches. A JET!
Teammates: Wtf why are there 2 biplanes taking off with us?
“They would lose pride if they shot a missile at you” is crazy 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
"how do you expect to kill us?"
"oh no i don't kill... but he does"
su 25: hi.
I used to bring I-153s with rockets into games with Mig-15s (back when they were the highest tier jets) and did manage to shoot down quite a few of them, and way back then the award for doing so is 20k SL and it's pretty lucrative.
This is the definition of playing WT for fun. Love the wholesome content
*Gets hit by Vulcan and disintegrates wings into firey mess
Wingman: PULL UP
XD
I might be late to the party but I love how half of this video is Jesse doing the "Oh hey look a civilian airliner" meme
You gotta start streaming this stuff on twitch it’s so funny 😂
I do very occasionally stream on Twitch. Link to that is in the description. I guess if more people share your feelings on the matter maybe I’ll have to start streaming more!
Thank you regardless :)
There’s a general rule of thumb when it comes to fighting biplanes and it’s to never turn fight against one
Next time you do this engage in turn fights
And hope they are stupid enough to fall for it.
The jets literally can't engage in turn fights with the biplane. There are dumb players who would try, but jets are so fast compared to them that it would be impossible. By the time they're midway through the turn they're already 2km away.
"I'm bi."
"Bisexual?"
"No. Biplane."
😂
Bi myself
That laugh is so contagious! I was giggling like an idiot the whole video, thank you for making my day :D
The fact that Jess has to act as a father
That's funny because we call Holden Dad
his little "HEeHeHEHeHEHehE" filled me with joy the whole video
Imagine if there was an enemy jet and it just came up alongside him, looked at the small he 51 and just decided you were not worth the bullets and just flew away like in the irl incident of the ye old pub, an American b17 that was spared by a German in a Messerschmitt bf 109
The jet would probably crash from not having enough lift at that speed lol. Maybe a flyby though.
He not only spares you, he escorts you back to your runway
It's like the less bad ass version of the F-22 pilot sneaking up under an Iranian F-4, looking at his missiles and then telling him to go home.
Gaijin was being generous by making biplanes even dent a jet when they ram them.
9:03 "Take this, civilians!" 😂
This is the equivalent of bringing a motorcycle with a machine gun sidecar to a battle with modern armor
Pros of jets: Fast and big gun
Cons of jets: bad maneuverability, pilots can't handle anything more than 9 G's
Pros of biplanes: Small, can't be locked on, extremely maneuverable, pilots can handle up to 20 G's, very low stalling speed
Cons of biplanes: literally nothing
missiles can track and launch onto biplanes
Jet engines have a lot of heat, but the prop engines have not that much
iirc at least some biplanes’ maximum speed might be lower than some jets’ minimum speed before stall
Why are pilots able to handle different G in different planes?
bro its laugh its like a mix between devils laugh, crying and happiness
that F-5 hitting you at Mach Fuck really didnt plan ahead did he lmfao!
"MY plane is heavier than his, AND his plane is made out of Paper! if i ram him, HE will disintegrate and i will live! GENIOUS!"
bro forgot that if a ball of Paper hit the ground at Mach Fuck, the ground would not be so grounded anymore lol.
It was a calculated risk, he was just really bad at math
@@Holdiniful his calculations were not calculated in a calculated enough way.
Biplanes are actually good at top tier tbh. Despite their obvious speed, when all your team die and the enemies come towards you looking for the last players you can out manauver them and they will find it difficult to lock you with IR so they are a force to be reckoned with lol
I-15 would be good. Best turnrate currently
That was ballsy! Gotta give you respect for just gettin out there
New name for highest difficulty mode in any game: 'BR 10.0 Biplane'.
Maybe you should have gone with the I-153 with the 20mm cannons
*You surprisingly survived that BR without getting shot at... LMAO*
Lmao this was hilarious
That bit of you getting circled in the clouds was spooky
War Thunder version of SovietWomble? Same editing style with the captions? Sign me up!
You have no idea what a huge compliment I’m taking this as
honestly I want more of this, this is the best
This is the most hilarious WT video I've seen so far ! 🤣
You basically recreated what happened with the Skyraiders in Vietnam War, actually ^^
6:46 "YOU HAVE A HOLE IN YOUR LEFT WING"
Bro head on an A-10 like it was nothing
Me and my friends actually did this as a strat to grind silver. We weren't good enough to reliably make the battles at our own (admittedly low) br, so we'd load in with reserves and biplanes to go for whatever the punching up achievement is, the one that gives a few thousand silver for killing a plane that's of a significantly higher br. Even if you only got 1 kill, you didn't have repair costs which made it economical. To cap it all, biplane have great maneuverability as compared to the faster planes can can outturn many things.
I did this once with a friend. Takeoff was hilarious my stupid little propeller plane was so tiny compared to the rest of the jets.
the most contagious laugh ever bro. only time i’ve laughed close to that was on about a pound of wax
I’m sorry did you just say a POUND lol
I had to stop the video half way through because this dude laughs and giggles after every sentence he says even when it wasn't funny
This happened to me that other day in a custom game with my friend. Me in my trusty 1.0 Krasnolutsky’s I-15bis against his jet that I can’t remember the name of.
I don’t see you on my radar. You must be in one of those stealth fighters he says. (Of course I am. I begin my play into the psychological warfare) he sees me and laughs. I try to dodge his missiles. I failed miserably. I respawn. I climb really high. I lie and say I’m flying around the water. He can’t find me (I’m stalking him 3,000 feet above him) He doesn’t believe my plane can fly that high. (I play more into the psychological warfare and tell him that I don’t think I can either.) I begin my dive. He still doesn’t know where I am. (I’m right above him) Since he’s traveling so fast, I have to lead him so far. He says he hears my engine as multiple rounds of 7.62 zip right past him. He can’t believe it. I hit his wing. Then I hit him in a critical area. He catches fire. I fly right past him. I pull up. He can’t maneuver fast enough to turn around to get me. But I can. I send another volley of 7.62 his way. It misses but his engine shuts down. 2 of my 4 guns jam because I fired more than 2 rounds and my barrels melted. It might as well be the wright brothers plane at this point. I fire again. I hit him again but my other 2 guns jammed. As a true Soviet Soldier I use myself as the bullet. I ram into him to no avail because my plane is made of origami paper. I try again. His wing comes off but so does mine. We both slowly fall to our deaths. He offers that we both eject and fight eachother with our sidearms. I refuse the chance to live as I unskillfully steer my shambled plane into his jet one last time and we crash and burn into a fiery inferno.
Those magnificent men in their flying machines, they go uppity up up they go downdiddy down down.
I can dodge early missiles with almost any piston fighter, late missile are a different story
I-153P is perfect for this because high maneuverability 2x 20 mm cannons with good damage on HE rounds and normal speed (for biplane). I personally killed 5 jets with this in one round
Subbed for that manly giggle.
I know the people who take the game seriously look down on it but taking low tier into high tier can be so much fun. I love fighting semi-modern tanks with M18s.
tanks is quite different than air in that regard tbh.
This was a great vid and I dont think its fair to say people shouldnt be able to take 1.0 into top tier, because the game lets you. I do strongly dislike having 2-3 teamates basically gone though, considering wins do grant much better RP/SL bonuses.
I just wish WT would stop this mechanic, in RB at least. I dont see how it would ever be an issue in AB
ngl i would have just fired the missile even without temptation the thought is allways lingering until you do it
9/10 times, he does lol
I did this with 3 swordfishes at highest br, it was so funny
average swordfish gigachadery
This is the funniest thing I've ever seen!
Imagine dropping into a match, minding your own business, and see half your team show up like this 😂😂😂
Dude! Playing against an hundred years of technological differences is like you fighting the Aliens! 😂
Respect! 😎
The first time that I laughed in a War Thunder video
From one Holden to another, tremendous video
Im a bit new to war thunder. When I advance to the higher BRs I wanna take a biplane to a 10.0 BR game with my friends as well, you guys have convinced me xD awesome vid, hella funny and contagious laughs
Imagine you can put a A-10 cannon on your plane.
*evaporates upon firing*
@@samline7605 And/or stall
Imagine using the A-10 cannon as extra propulsion.
as someone with many jet kills in biplanes, it is def possible, just need the headons
This reminds me of the time a modern destroyer came up to a wooden and steel destroyer and the wooden and steel one went "Why are you here?" "Just escorting the most beautiful ship known to man."
the only documented jet taken down by a biplane happened in the Korean war because the jet tried to shot down the biplane but couldn't because he was too fast so he slowed down in an attempt to shot it, only to stall and crash
Its so fun, me and my friend both took reserves to top teir. We won, i dont know how, but we did.
I’m at the point in the game where I can only do biplanes, I like how these super high level planes are so chill with these beginner ones
The insane giggles is what got me
I am proud to say that i have a mig21bis kill with my rank 2 J22A, i crit them, followed them as he circled around thinking i could keep up with their speed, then crit it again, set it on fire, follow, and he crashed after one wing came off. It was shooting flares like if i had technology or something. Lucky i even have a 12mm cannon
Im glad i discovered this channel. Great video, made me chuckle
This is too entertaining
This is what people talk about when they mention a time traveler kicking a single rock
Ok this was beyond enjoyable ( in a great way) i really enjoyed this .
your laughs are making me laugh so hard😂😆😆🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I remember a story of a guy who has a prop plane helping the military with a practice of some sort and driving the plane backwards, provoking some funny responses by the guys in jets
Dude, this content was golden. Alot of editing involved with the jokes. You are doing great!
you're too happy for this game is a real feeling lol
Fun fact: Missiles will not explode and kill you with pure kinetic damage!
Some one forgot to switch the plane and I got ripped apart by a missile passing through me...
Sometimes I bring a low teir plane to top tier. The teammates are so nice but the enemies never kill me cause I’m so slow
The nonstop laughing gets me every time im dying rn 😂😂😂
So what you're saying is.... Using bi planes at top tier is the best way to grind
ive never seen a better war thunder video
You all need to try this with the Russian Bi-plane that has 20mm cannon instead of 7.62 mg!
jessie is the warthunder equivilant of the dark urge from baulders gate III
Robert why do you do that? Cause I'm not gonna make it back to base had me dying 😂
this has got to be the most mil sim serious war thunder session ever no fooling around. yes im subscribing
my friends got 11.3 jets and my best is 4.3 so yesterday i hopped on my 1.3 premium bf 109 and played a few rounds 11.3 br. Half of the games i didnt got to the middle in time but when i got there i acually got kills. And holy, one time i got 22000 for one kill assist
Watching this makes me wish you could go past the sound barrier and knocked biplanes out of the sky from the speed. I feel like that is realistic
Whether you believe it or not IRL a biplane has a confirmed kill on a jet fighter. This happened during the Korean war where a F-94 tried to shoot down a biplane and because it's missiles didn't work it slowed down below it's stall speed and crashed.
Why do I actually love this
Its funnier cause 1 burst of fire from a jet is worth more than both biplanes combined 😂
again a good video i appreciate your stuff ;)
I killed a f5 in a starter biplane. And I was a noob, btw the f5 was the 100 dollar one or something.
"with a crew like mine there is nothing you cant do!" ahh momment.
This video was peak entertainment
As someone who routinely plays propeller planes in high tier I would have to say your best options are the p-51s.
I technically got a kill on a het in a biplane once, we both went into a headon, i hit them a couple times, they missed me entirely but they had too much speed and as they trued to turn arround they crashed lmao. I did not take out a jet, but i got credit for ones death
I-153 with unguided rockets as flairs. Plenty of kills at 12.0
i subscribed. i love this video and you and your friends playing WT man
Boy are you gonna love when you find out there are 9 others like this then lol
Thank you though!