RARE 1963 300J - Initial Long Ram Road Test
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The roads are finally clear of snow outside Nick's Garage! What better way to start the driving season than with a primary test drive in the 300J?
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My Uncle was a fighter pilot in WWII. When he got home, Chrysler was the first car he bought and many years after, that's all he drove. A tribute to Col James Mankie P51 pilot.
That's interesting,my dad was a Ball turret gunner,I had one of these in a 4door
Right on.❤️
A big thank you to your Uncle and your Dad for their service, fellas like them were all indebted too! Otherwise we all may be speaking German, Japanese, whatever
I wasn't in ww2 or a fighter pilot but I'm in my seventies now and I've only had mopars all my life , never had a ford , chevy or anything else !
@@sparkywirenut - well you're doing good in my book to reach that age buddy, regardless of whatever you did or did not do in the past, know what I mean? Keep on keeping on everyday!
My Dad was an old Greek from Sparta. His parents left Greece and came to Baltimore. He worked for the railroad all his life and passed way in 2015. The Chrysler was his favorite car and said one day he hoped to buy one. He could only afford a used Dodge as he supported us! I use to have pictures of him standing next to Chryslers 300 G. I wish he could be around to see another Greek with a 300 in their shop!! Yanni
Yanni, Glad to hear from a fellow Greek. Have loved cruising in my 300-F for years.
If I had that engine in my car, I don't know if I'd even want to put the hood back on! All the very best from out west, gentlemen!
* From what I remember those long ram engines were better from a 30mph roll then off the line due to the low velocity inside the intake. Check for vaccum leaks and jet your primary jets smaller. And keep your primary and secondary jets closer together. You'll have to tinker with the advance curve too. And for Gods sake , Get Some Good Gas ! 👊😎👍
I was born in April of 63 when these cars came out brand new. My dad was driving a 61 Chrysler Windsor 2 door. Spinnaker white, baby blue interior. All stock with whitewall tires. She was Betsy #1 to me.
What a car ! My uncle was a long-time Mopar fan, he had a `63 Dodge Polara with the cross-ram 413, Torqueflite, and Sure-Grip rear. He was a conservative guy, but his favorite thing was to terrorize fuelie Chevys. I loved to ride with him, it was always an adventure.
My uncle still has his Alaskan White 300G from 1961, 413 Wedge with the Race coded 3-speed manual on the floor. It will launch you into the back seat if you're not paying attention.
Nick's garage: The first thing in the morning is open the bay doors. Running the engine like that is like sitting in the car with the exhaust routed inside the car while you and others are sitting inside the car with the windows rolled up. You are breathing in carbon monoxide.
Cool! Getting consistent 1-2 shift chirp with a 1963 aircraft carrier like that says a lot for the engine's power!
Thanks for a cool video, Nick!
Brings back memories... jump out with a wrench, bump the distributor, tighten it back down jump back in.
The symmetrical layout of the twin cleaners looks beautiful.
Only driven push button a couple of times.
I'm so jealous here in Western Australia they are so nanny and worried we will hurt ourselves. We are very restricted in what we can do.
I always like that new engine smell when you rebuild a motor when you take it for the first drive GODSPEED
Great progess Nick! A few thoughts and suggestions besides fresh fuel and proper timing. A 300J should light up the tires with less than 1/3 throttle as a result of the low-end torque. Mine does and I have a hydraulic cam as well more-or-less stock. Stock 3.23 gears are fine. The car was designed for very high speed cruising not drag racing, but it is quite fast in the 1/4 too for a 4300 lb car. Mine was timed at 15.4 sec at 99.99 mph. They really come alive above 3000 rpm. When properly tuned and timed, full throttle from a standing start is sort of useless - too much wheelspin - can't launch. The setup of the linkage is critical for optimum performance - must be exactly per the manual. Use the factory 300J service manual supplement - it is online. The car should not detonate (or only a bit) with fresh 91 octane, preferably non-ethanol, with initial timing at 12 to 14 BTDC. Original factory spec was 15 but lowered to 12.5 as a running change due to customer complaints about detonation. Aftermarket dizzy should be OK for now, but you need a quick mechanical advance curve - just about all in by 2500 rpm. Should handle 35-36 or so total mech. advance. We don't know what transmission is in the car - likely not original, may not be built to 300J specs. - was specially beefed up from the factory. Factory did not use high stall converter. I have a 2500 stall in my 300J T-flite which helps performance, but stock should be fine. Cold range spark plugs are needed as well, I use NGK racing plugs. Heat tubes aren't needed once the engine is warm as you know. It's getting there. -Regards, Carl Bilter, 300J 1963 model year consultant for the Chrysler 300 Club International.
Thank you on this info .
My J had a 3:23 open and at sea level it would obliviate the tire for a very very long distance. I did a fairly stock rebuild and had Hughs reproduce the original mechanical cam. I've owned my G for 26 years and am currently building a 426 wedge for it.
Thanks, great info…. Interestingly, I am not )even a “real Mechanic “…..Interestingly *, also, my Grandfather’s last *new Car was a 1963 New Yorker , ( all, Baby *Blue )…unfortunately, he ordered it before I could even suggest a letter… NO A/ c…..Car. etc*(( though he would **probably , never go for *air Conditioning, *frills, & *fancy Seats(?),)). He was proud of it, Chrysler Quality , actually…….
I'm sure the guy who's been doing this for decades and owns his own very successful shop will sleep better tonight after hearing all this😂😅😊
My father had a 63 300J the same color as your example.. He put a set of Michelin tires and Koni shocks ran like hell and handled really well.
Hey Nick. As teens, my 17 yo neighbor would bomb around with me in his dad's pale blue 413 polishmobile. Dad never noticed that we put the long rams on. Drove it that way for about 3 days. We had the same experience you're having; stumble and bogging. Driving with the hood open and no air cleaners, billowing clouds of fuel puffed out of the carbs. Ended up putting the stock Carter AFB back. Seems that whoever gave up his long rams wouldn't have done so if he was happy with the Rams. Fiddle fiddle fiddle. If I remember right it did the 1\4 mile in 15.2 sec @ 84 mph. Good luck and thanks for sharing.
I saw exactly that phenomenon during dyno testing, and wondered if that was common.
I had '63 Newport, white with blue interior. Great ride the car felt like it was floating at highway speed. Many great memories.
I had a summer job in 1963 and this was the first car that i washed in my life .. I really messed it up at my age of 15 . My boss told the mechanic to go and show me how to wash a new car properly I remember that it was a beauty but awfully big . It sure looked good after that .
Chrysler has often been called the gentleman's hot rod.
Walter P Chrysler told his team he wanted has Chrysler to be faster than the Cadillac. So they went to work on it. When people saw a Chrysler running away from a Cadillac, people took notice, it sold a lot of cars.
Like my 1967 Chrysler wagon with a 383 four barrel that car was built for cruising and probably has a 276 or 293 rear end ratio common to the 8-3/4 .Never really would spin the wheels to much but from a roll took off like a bat out of hell.On the highway it would pin the speedometer at 120 without a problem.Great job on the build Nick and thanks for bringing us another Mopar unique classic.
When I was a kid my father had a 64 Chrysler New Yorker, very similar except for the cross ram induction. I head they were very difficult to get right but when tuned correctly they would fly. I’ve seen quite a few 63/64 cars and never seen those cool bumper guards before. Nice to see someone still knows these old bankers hot rods! Keep up the good work!!
Nick will never hand a car off without a thorough road test That is why Nick's Garage is the best He's fixed Mikes 300j'S temperamental carburrettor Now he'll take us for a ride I can think of nothing better It's got a humble rumble and Nick is making sure it doesn't stumble The 300j is an elegantly packaged bundle It's an American domestic that looks majestic on the street and in 63 at the traffic lights it could not be beat It's got torque for days I am always impressed with the attention to detail Nick always pays Nick'll get rid of all the annoying little niggles So when Mike plants his right foot it'll give him the giggles Thanks Nick Big ups George Shout out to all you petrol heads watching from around the world!
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Poetic.
What drives me? ANY 300 from 1955 to 1965. These are real hot rods.
If the fuel is VERY old, I am surprised you get ANY performance. I guess you must remind yourself that the numbers you get on the dyno are not the numbers you will “feel” in the street with old fuel….. Yet another great Mopar build from The Man and His Men. Thanks, Nick !
The road test on the 413!!! I've been waiting for this just as much as Nick. Let er rip Nick, drive it like you stole it. Here we go!!
Challenge accepted! Haha. Not to spoil it for you.. but there will be more to come with this car. The testing is not complete.
@@NicksGarage Boy, this takes me right back to 1964, when my friends dad bought a brand new Chrysler 300 Silver K 4-speed special edition. I had lots of fun cruising in that car, and even got to drive it a couple of times. It had the same induction setup, and was very quick on the street for the time. I figured that there would be more video of the road test after Nick kept adjusting the timing, to cure the detonation. Stale gas, and the correct distributor with the tach drive should help out greatly. Looking forward to the next test.
500ft/lbs will spin the tires on just about anything!
That engine is so quiet... the one I test drove back in 1960's with same air cleaners let out a screaming howl that would wake up the dead! Even louder than the tripower on my '65 GTO...
I hear the weather is finally good in Montreal guys! More road tests please!!
Nice to see the 413 back in the car , that steering wheel is so cool , Premium fuel time 😎👍
What a beautiful car! Inside and out!
It's definitely different something you don't see everyday that's what makes it cool to me!
The 413 was very bold engineering with amazing torque. All the Crysler 300's were masterpieces of design - conservative body but a fantastic radical engine. Your shop re-built this engine to perfection - I admire both your skills and the lead engineer who came up with this crazy idea - crazy but very sound design. Thanks Nick for sharing, too bad so few of these cars were built and even fewer remain -
Conservative ? It’s still an Exner design even though not as wild as a few years earlier.
RUclips channel Coldwarmoters and Scott along with all the crew are a amazing team. Thanks for the contribution. All the best Nick
That's a beautiful baby, I like a little more low key exhaust...but, so glad she is alive 👍🇺🇲
Love the old car , beautiful styling of its day . Love the beautiful interior and low back seats ,beautiful color on the interior. 413 ahead of its time back then and a wild setup for it's time and still is. Great to see the ol girl moving under her own power . Love Nick's laugh when he got her lighting the tires up ...Beautiful old car ...
Judging from the snow banks still around, obviously this video was made well over a week ago. You probably got this car running like it should by now. Being a non-posi traction diff and with all the torque from that engine, it should burn one tire to hell in no time.
Great to see the Master work on
another beautiful work of art!
Nicely done video Nick and company and the "J" is really something under the hood - wow!
Easily one of my favourite Mopars, with one of my favourite engines, built by one of my favourite channels! Thank you Nick & crew; cheers from Alberta!
P.S. WVE makes great parts, they're a subsidiary of NGK.
P.P.S. Thank you for shouting out my friend, another one of my favourite channels, Cold War Motors!
Glad you enjoy it!
Speed baby. Speed!
Nick and George, just getting in from ballgame . Love to seeing the ol girl moving under her own power and new lease on life. I wonder if the Chrysler Museum even has one of these in their collection....Great work Nick , I love your dedication and attention to detail. God Bless .
Yeah, it must be the bad gas... Don't forget to bump the timing up when you get the hood on. My dad's "58 New Yorker would break the tires loose when it shifted to 2nd gear. I'm expecting the same once you get it all tuned up... ...grin... I know you will, I'm just pulling your chain... You did an excellent job on this engine...
Giasou Nikola,
Finally the 300J is ready to rock & roll. Nothing fresh fuel can’t fix that 300J should be smoking the tyres not before long.
Stay warm buddy.
Cheers
Your number 1 Fan in Australia. ( Melbourne ).
Louis Kats 👍 🇦🇺 🇨🇦 😊
Thanks again for the ‘tap water’, Louis!
Nick great to finally see the 300J chirping the tyres. George awesome filming as ever!!
I agree: these old Chryslers DID have some very DISTINCTIVE styling that often set them apart from the other makes. You KNOW Mike's gonna have an absolute BLAST cruising in his 300J, thanks to Nick and the stellar crew at Nick's garage!! I GOTTA get something so I can get him involved in it lol!!! Great week, all!!!!
Can we not all give credit to Georges awesome video, editing and narrating skills?
My name is George also. :)
Thank you Nick, we`ve been waiting for this for a long time.
We love Scott from ColdWarMotors too.
I love you all.
Awesome car Nick, and great work. Don't let that car go home with the left backup light not working.😊
And painting the air cleaner covers. 😁
Bless Mike from NY and Nick from Laval for keeping this beautiful and rare classic car on the road 👍
Sunoco Highest Octane Under The Sun!! The Old Girl needs some Sunoco 260 with Lead!!! Ahh the Old Days!!!!
Yeah! I hear that. Big Oil knew what the muscle cars needed and they came through. Price was right too. You could cruise Saturday night for five bucks. A gallon of gas was the same price as a pack of cigarettes. 43 cents. The good old days indeed.
My Dad had a '64 New Yorker 413 and it was hard to drive in a hurry because it spun the tires so easily. Of course, It had a single 4-barrel. It definitely needed the best fuel.
My #1 dream car is a 58 300D, but this one is a close second!
You know looking back 1963 was a good year for auto design and innovation with the galaxy, falcon sprint,the Corvette and many more 🤑
GREAT job, guys! I've read about the Chrysler 300 long ram dual quad setup, but this is the first time I've seen it in action. Extremely cool. I hope that somehow my old buddy Russ, a serious MoPar guy who left us a few years ago, gets RUclips up there and can see this!
As my buddy Carl Bilter mentioned above, the '60 300-F and '61 300-G were fitted with standard 30" cast aluminum 'longrams' that offered better low-end (2,800 rpm) torque , and a small handful of each of these model years fitted with the optional 30" 'shortrams' that offered stronger high-end (3,600 rpm) torque.
300-Js and optional on 300-Ks were shortrams -still 30" length, but the 1st 15" off each carb had open plenum with only that final 15" divided plenum going into the heads - as seen on thie 300-J. Overall, the long- and shortrams look very similar to the untrained eye.
Had a 413 long ram in a 62 Imperial. Great engine
Yes, filters are something that's often overlooked.
Many years ago I ran into an acquaintance working on his FE's carbie because it was way too thirsty - the filter assembly was on the ground beside himand I picked it up to look at it - it was stock and they've a tiny filter element in a large housing - I tapped the filter on the ground and about a tablespoon of loose dirt fell off! The poor engine was so choked I'm surprised it even ran.
The kicker was when I told him the blocked filter would be causing it to run so rich he dismissed it because "filters have nothing to with it"🤣
oh well, maybe he still has that "filter".
@@davidfrank6666
it was 30+ years ago*, he 'might' have changed it since then 😉
*maybe 40? At my age it isn't just the days or years that one loses track of, but the decades 😀
This work that you's guys have done to this rare classic car is fantastic!!! Really great episode!!! It will be awesome to see how it will do with the fresh premium fuel, the best timing and the hood back in place, on the highway... It is such a nice riding vehicle, and this one is Fast...
Another great ride in the sun - I loved watching that guy spin around in his car when Nick went by. Don’t see these on the road anymore!
Hey Nick, great video. You have no idea how hard it is to find a video where you can hear detonation like that. I have a stock 383 and when tuning the ign timing I always stayed on the safe side since I was absolutely afraid of pinging and I never knew how it should sound. Now I have an idea what to listen for!
Nice to see a long ram 413 rebuilt I've waited decades for this thank you nick❤
Only Nick and George can make an air filter replacement interesting. What a fabulous car. I hope Mike still has the ‘66?Belvedere too.
Nick, your reaction to the tires chirping when it shifted from 1st to 2nd in the 300J is like a child getting a new toy for Christmas. 😁 One thing I noticed is the air cleaner covers need to be painted. Does Mike want them painted? Once you get some fresh fuel in it, the hesitation and detonation should go away and you can advance the timing back to I believe you said when it was on the dyno at 36° or 37° and it will pull a lot harder and probably spin the tires on take off. Nice story and build Nick.
Love it
Nick, that interior color is "Turbine Bronze", the same color used on the Chrysler Turbine cars from the same era. They used that color exclusively on the Turbine cars inside and out (only one was painted white and used in a movie. That car may be heavy but you can tell is MOVES!!!
No, it is claret red. Has some copper hue but not the same as the turbine cars. In this particular car, the upholstery is not original and is more red than original.
These old cars had STYLE which is something cars today SORELY lack. I can't tell between a Nissan or Toyota unless I'm right next to it and can tead the nameplate.
I remember my uncle had a black one! I forgot what model it was or engine as I was young in the early 70s. What I remember is that push button transmission💯
Beauty! He'll of a job Nick! You're a wizard!
Awesome job Nick, the Chrysler sounds so nice.
What a great interior in that car.
Thank you Nick and George for taking us for a ride. I always wanted to drive those early 60’s Chryslers. Sooo Coool!
Our pleasure!
Long ram 413's were always rare. What an incredible beauty!
Nick, you are an awesome guy. Much respect, thanks for all you've shared.
413 back in the 300 J. Nick is going to see how this rebuilt Mopar. Will run! 395 hp and 501 torque. Let's go surfing now. Everyone is learning how. Come on Safari with me! What a Cruiser! Those push button transmissions are cool. Shawn.
A little more tuning, some fresh fuel and this thing is going to own the highway.
@@NicksGarage Yes, Sir Nick! Fine tune this baby. Maybe 3.55 gears out back too. You make the call Nick! Shawn.
As I recall from the dyno tests, this 413 has been upgraded to a 426. My friend had a Dodge Polara with the long ram 413, and it was awesome. A kickdown at 70 MPH would push you back in the seat.
@@loboheeler Are these 300J's positrac? I figure this cars weight at about 5300 pds. It should burn the tires off this car from a standstill. Single or positrac. It's a torque monster! Does it have 727 torqueflite transmission? Hope you can help! Shawn.
@@shawnbeck2303 the 300J weighs about 4300 ibs with all fluids and a full tank and driver. Shipping weight was an even 4000 lbs. 63-64 were the lightest 300 letter cars. Suregrip (limited slip) was optional. Without it the right rear tire gets a lot of wear! Tranny was a beefed up HD 727.
Watching your channel brings back the old days. Do you ever work on Chevy 409 or 427 motors. When I was a young lad my friend's dad had and raced with the 409. He was always in the driveway working on his car. Those were the good old days.
She was a smooth sounding comfy looking ride. Old Max
That is one cool ride Nick just simply sweet and even sweeter once you get the very minor issues sorted so can't wait for the high way ride, great video thanks George.
Great camera work all around.perfect!!
Thank you very much!
Its amazing how the engineers came up w such a radical design that worked really well. Thousands of hours of R & D really paid off.
You did it again Nick the 300j is awesome I love it I only ever seen another long ram at a swap meet the guy had the engine and trans complete claimed it ran he wanted $10,000 for it it's about 4 years ago there's a lot of Lookers one guy offered him $6,500 and he said no that's super rare that's cool thanks for another great video
The more I see this car, the more I like it.
I had a 63 Chrysler Newport. It was the same color as this one. I couldn't afford to replace the bald tires so I gave it to my son and he put it in a demolition derby. It won but I should have saved it a few years till it was worth buying a set of tires for it.
GREAT camera work on this one Nick.
Sometimes the sparkplug wires will jump spark onto the heater hose if they are too close to each other. Hey Nick you look good in that car!
That's usually when they are old and have spider web cracks. When they are new, they are well insulated.
That beast needs to be taken up on the expressway for a real workout. Love the remaining snow drifts. LOVE the second gear chirp.
Yes it does!
* Forgotten Trivia . 413ci is special to Chrysler because in the early to mid 50's they made a 413ci Flathead 6cyl !!! 😯 They called it " The Lugger " it was the largest flathead they made. It was used in the big trucks and some boats & generators. It came with dual 1barrel carbs and dual exhaust. It was so thirsty on gas hardly any were sold. Also it had a habit of snapping it's cam under heavy load. Probably cause Chrysler used steel it bought cheap from decommissioned WW2 ships. The salt made it's way right into the atomic matrix of the alloy causing weakness and a propensity to rust.
Heard the pinging, even after backing up the timing. A lot of weight to get moving under load. Needs fresh high test for sure, maybe advance coming in too quick. Can't wait for the road trip down 440.
You going to really enjoy taking that car on the highway and opening her up. When tuned correctly, these cars pull you into your seats when you accelerate. Wish I could be there with you! Put non-ethenol high test gas in her and watch her fly!
I think part of the less than expected performance is becaue the hood is off and it's cold outside , those long intake runners need to heat up for peak performance .....Put the hood on and warm the engine up for a half hour and then try it ...
I really love that car. I was 11 years old when that car was on the TV commercials. We used to go to the Chrysler Dodge Plymouth dealers to see the new cars for that year. We went for several years. I kinda remember seeing one in the showroom. I'm not sure if was 62 or 63. There was a cross ram induction car there. I've always been fascinated with all engines. I do remember a Chysler Imperial with the cross ram induction system.
I kinda think that car is a bit over 4000 lbs. He is very fortunate to have that car. It looks fantastic for all original paint and interior. I would think it's almost priceless. I'm looking forward to the next run with fresh gas and tuned up.
Thank you Nick. I'm curious about the final drive ratio. I wander if it's a 3 :23 rear end.
Yes - 3.23 with TorqueFlite; but 3.91 with 3-spd manual trans
You know, in 1963 there were no seat belts from the factory. Those are after market belts. A good idea. Just like my 1969 Chry 300 I had to back off on the timing!!! Needs lead and 100 + octane fuel. Beautiful car. My dad had a 1963 Chrysler Newport. Standard three speed trans. He converted it to a floor shift. Oh I miss Dad and that car. Poor car just rusted away. Also, the car hitting a low stone wall getting rolled over didn't do the car any good. My cousin survived. The car didn't.
Dr. Nick, I could feel the cool breeze going up and down the street, you look good driving the 300J, I say that you need one lol, thanks for the 1st test ride of the year, cheers.
This car has interested me more than most lately. From the moment Mike drove it to the front of your shop I have watched every minute of every video you made on this engine. I would love to feel that torque by passing a vehicle on the highway. As you say, it’s a torque monster and I’d love to feel the torque as it was intended. Driving down the highway and you gun it to pass big rig in front of you. As your body sinks into the backrest… oh yea, I can’t wait to see your face the first time you do this.
Only seen one of those engines in person thought it was an excellent design and i been around .
i love how it is nice quite and smooth until you hit the gas. i bet that car will be a nice high way car to drive
That thing was pinging horribly. I was gritting my teeth when you punched it with all that pinging.
Repeatedly like NO biggie 🤢
That Death rattle was SCREAMING
Its interesting, only the Pace Setter version had the extra pot-metal cast brightwork across the rear above the bumper, otherwise trim seems to be similar.
Congrats to Mike! Great job Mr Nick!! Enjoy your week!!
Driver's side torsion bar looks like it's i turn too high? One of Chrysler's coolest features.😎
First off, all 300J cars had suregrip 3.23 gears.
Crappy gas = crappy acceleration !!
Because you don’t have the heat risers from exhaust manifold the carbs are too cold for good atomizing of fuel.
Add a lead additive because I don’t think you put in hardened exhaust valve seats.
I have a stock survivor 300J engine has never been touched with 39,743 miles.
It runs like a raped ape !!
Enjoyed your entire series of this Beautiful Beast !!
Greetings from Seattle...
Yes, 3.23 gears but suregrip was an option not standard. Heat tubes are not needed once the car is fully warmed up.
It's great to see the torque monster hitting the road! Talk about a sleeper.....
Good stuff Nick ! Love the channel and the fact that you like to keep everything stock. The way it should be. There is a guy at the local cruise that has one of these cross ram mopars he bought new. Crazy looking setup.
Great job on a true classic. Nick's Garage, it doesn't get any better. Thanks
Fantastic!!! I assume you will be fixing the driver’s side reverse light!!!
That's the plan!
I love watching you work on these classic muscle cars and I've learned so much about Mopar. Always knew about the "letter cars"
But thanks for the tip on inspecting an air filter! I've been piddling around with cars almost as long as you have although certainly not the same skills. I always just felt looking at the outside of the air filter if it was "dirty" and then in later times just started changing them on mileage
But shining the light on the intake side and seeing if it's shining on the exit side makes sense
Thanks again
9:55 - left rear backup light is out. I know Nick likes to have a full set of working lights!
Thanks for the ride, Nick! This car is so smooth and fast!