@@AJtherealdeal she did say that she can always go back to uni should anything happen to her RUclips channel and she is right it’s not going anywhere. I’m glad she chose her happiness over something that was causing her struggle (she opened up about the anxiety problems she was having due to uni)
As I learned from watching Emily D Baker, defamation of a public figure can only occur if they can prove monetary damages. I’m so curious how Lillie Jean can directly blame you for loss of income? Sponsors pulling opportunities that she didn’t have to start with?
Well, not exactly. It could be framed as defamation per se, which doesn't require proof of damages (not only monetary ones). But defamation of a public figure, per se or not, requires 'actual malice' which is not always easy to prove. But anyway, all of this is moot point, because best defense in defamation is truth, and everyone with eyes can see it here lol. 💜💜💜
The "taking away my digital rights" part killed me. 💀💀💀 Seriously though, is anyone else getting GH vibes from her. The way she accuses anyone who criticises or reports on her as bullies, while harassing and threatening people with lawsuits to silence them. She wanted to be a public figure, did she think it was going to be all brand deals and free stuff?
I haven't watched a video in so long, forgot how much i enjoy listening to Angelika talk about really anything and still getting some tea, love it The English accent really came out at 13:30 and I started dying. I admire how you're staying so level-headed about this and also allowing yourself a bit of humor.
Just had to add, even if you didn’t use clips, I would still watch. Peter Monn doesn’t use clips because of people and their abuse of the copyright system, and I never miss a video. It’s not always about the person you are talking about, it’s your personality that keeps us watching.
I ACTUALLY GOT THE NOTIFICATION FOR THIS POST! WTH. I feel like its been so long since I ACTUALLY got your notifications. Interestingly. It's videos like this that first brought me to your channel. Simple truths without crazy editing and elaborate _other stuff_ . I feel like if this exact video was posted like...... even a year ago it'd be the same story. She needs a new bit. I agree with others she gives off GH vibes
What people don’t realize is that when they falsely copyright claim videos they are in fact committing a crime, if a prosecutor actually wanted to they could do something about it. They are legal affidavits.
if actual celebrities occasionally have legal battles with photographers over celebs posting their own faces on ig and the photographers claim they have rights to it, lillie jean putting her face on the body of someone else, wearing a dress made by someone else, wearing jewelry that was probably sponsored by a company, and a photographer taken by someone else, she really cant claim aaaanything. also, i thought if you post things on ig you dont have like full rights over whatever was posted, similar to twitter? idk either way she’s desperately grasping for attention and its just so embarrassinggg
The way she can get around using the photo with her face on Katie Perry's body is by saying it is transformative, that said I don't know that it had been transformed enough, and she said that a fan made it for her. If that was true (my doubtful face) then the copyright would be held by the person who made it not Lilli Jean. Proving copyright on photography and artwork is a tough one anyway. I have had to prove it to get my photographs printed at Walgreens I littlerally took my computer in and showed them the RAW files that I had used to combine two photographs. It was ridiculous because it was when I first started using photoshop and it was a crappy job!
The photographer of the picture has copyright or the company he/she is working for. Katy Perry probably doesn’t have any rights, but she could argue her likeness is being used. When Katy posts this picture online she has to pay for licensing. There is no way this lady can claim copyright since the original image is recognizable which makes this artwork not transformative enough.
Be ready for them to keep trying to take your videos down using their many other accounts that they created to make multiple attempts to remove videos about her while also spamming her videos with those accounts
I’ve never wanted to watch videos more than when people copyright strike them or sue them over it. It’s like most of the time that just means they don’t like how they were talked about and I’m petty
Keep in mind that the picture she keeps claiming OwNErShiP of is a picture that she also claims she got from someone else… it’s f a n a r t 🙄🥴 Edit: you mention this later in the video lol my bad. I was getting ahead of myself haha
I was going to watch regardless of the title. I enjoy your channels, especially your makeup channel. I am double your age, but your makeup is always stunning!
That title had me going like, if this is the end of Angelika, she's gonna end on a bang at least. But seeing how Angelika's getting a lawsuit from Lillee Jean, it's obviously clickbait. Our queen would obviously win this case if it goes to court.
Ngl at first i thought it was by Gabbie Hannah but seeing that it was Lillie Jean and her mother......i wonder if they need the money to maintain the fake followers
I honestly had no clue who she was, before your video on her. I kind of think she is VERY full of herself (and not too bright) or she is trying to get more attention to her content by causing "drama" with you.
She’s not bright. She was home schooled in an attic. We are not sure what the end goal is. It seems like it would be more attention and fans.The weird thing if you go watch her Instagram stories don’t say anything, don’t follow or like, you could still be blocked. If you comment something seemingly harmless on a RUclips video, you could be attacked and blocked.
Tater Tatiana is a smaller RUclipsr and she started making videos on LJ. Now her, AND HER MOTHER, have completely harassed TT off of some social media platforms.
i was worried that she would pull this shit on you. i am SO glad youtube saw through it right away, now sharing this video out of spite of her annoying online presence. its a really good video too!
She clearly has no money and I clout and is just chasing it because she got called out big time and no brands want to work with her and she basically ruined her career by faking it to begin with…
I think a good practice to everyone is to try and get a hold of a lawyer at least to inform yourself BEFORE you decide to sue. Cuz y'know. They have read the law way more than you.
That’s a great idea. Unfortunately, lor (lillee’s mom) knows all. She won’t put on a bra for a live stream but trust…she’s outstanding council for lillee jean. 👀
There is definitely something up with RUclips because I have been subscribed to you for a long time and I just noticed that I recently somehow got unsubscribed. I have re-subscribed, but I don't know why youtube is doing this, because you're not the only creator that this has happened to me with.
That’s why she lost 5000 subs? So wait you’re gonna want us to believe that Angelika is losing subs because of RUclips? My dude that is the lamest thing I ever heard of.
honestly i don't mind the ""lack"" of clips (idk what's the word but it's like i don't mind that u put less clips n stuffs) bcs you always look great so it's nice to watch the video even if it's almost all just u talking :P
Frist of all, her email to RUclips is sooo unprofessional lmao Second of all, as an artist I had to learn a lot about copyright especially photo licenses and you reading what she wrote about made me laugh out loud during the entire part of the video 💀
I just hate how entitled some people are. She didn’t take the pic or transformed it to an unrecognizable new artwork. The photographer should get paid. And she can’t use Katy Perry’s likeness.
Girl I woke up about 3 weeks ago and I had been unsubscribed from every single channel I was subscribed to just 7 or 8 hours before...so I don't know what happened but ya I had to remember every person I was subscribed too and I had to start all over....so annoyed ! And I can't remember 1000 damn content creators lol ugh I was so annoyed! I can't b the only person that has happened too ya know ? anyway luv u XOXO
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That's ridiculous of RUclips, I couldn't access my RUclips for nearly 5 years (long story) so that's horrible they could have shut it if that happened now
I have an old YT account from 2009, that I haven't used since 2011 maybe that is still up and running... haven't logged in ever, but still shows up if I search for it? Lmao wtf yt
I follow lillee and laur casually, they do this to everyone who calls them out. Theyre all bark and no bite, just empty threats. They obviously do not have frivolous lawsuit money,
I'm pretty sure under Facebook/Instagram terms and conditions you give them ownership of any images/content posted on their platform, so theoretically they own that picture
I didn't realize it was now legal to put all rights and copyrights on fan-edited or photoshopped images from already copyrighted images, which I assume is licensed for Getty Images(because they usually buy the right*s from the* copyright holder/photographer), without as I assume, paying for the legal right or asking permission to make her video of how she pretended to be someone else at the MET gala. hmmmm, interesting. So she's essentially outing herself for copyright infringement and making money on a photo she didn't have rights to in the first place.
I was just thinking about this lillee Jean video yesterday. It’s been rather quiet. Too quiet. I thought maybe they realized they were being unreasonable. They really came through with this violate her digital rights! 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️she’s going to go to the internet police if you are not careful. Two years back, someone did a reverse goatse on there computer 🤭 they went to the internet police. I can’t remember but I think they have a pretend legal team. I mean totally real legal team. Angelika is / has everything lillee wants multiple successful RUclips channels, the ability to do multiple makeup looks, former LAW STUDENT, beautiful, elegant, all her adult teeth and not in her mothers attic.
I laughed throughout, end of. It’s a serious situation that LJ is trying to abuse and misuse to fit her goals and aims but honestly Angelika is giving pure *come at me and get the real world on your back*. I love when logic wins out and not crazy and stupid.
I always forget that Angelika was a law student the way she dragged every aspect of Lillee's claim... iconic
It’s such a shame she did. RUclips is not a stable job and I don’t want her to ever lose it.
@@AJtherealdeal she did say that she can always go back to uni should anything happen to her RUclips channel and she is right it’s not going anywhere. I’m glad she chose her happiness over something that was causing her struggle (she opened up about the anxiety problems she was having due to uni)
@@AJtherealdeal youtube is here right now, so might as well take the opportunity while its here when school will always be there
As I learned from watching Emily D Baker, defamation of a public figure can only occur if they can prove monetary damages.
I’m so curious how Lillie Jean can directly blame you for loss of income? Sponsors pulling opportunities that she didn’t have to start with?
EXACTLY 🙏👏🙌
Well, not exactly. It could be framed as defamation per se, which doesn't require proof of damages (not only monetary ones). But defamation of a public figure, per se or not, requires 'actual malice' which is not always easy to prove.
But anyway, all of this is moot point, because best defense in defamation is truth, and everyone with eyes can see it here lol.
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Defamation per se doesn’t require that
The "taking away my digital rights" part killed me. 💀💀💀
Seriously though, is anyone else getting GH vibes from her. The way she accuses anyone who criticises or reports on her as bullies, while harassing and threatening people with lawsuits to silence them. She wanted to be a public figure, did she think it was going to be all brand deals and free stuff?
omg i read this comment before watching the video and i thought you were talking about angelika and i was like “no way she says that”
She has a lot of time on her hands 😂
I haven't watched a video in so long, forgot how much i enjoy listening to Angelika talk about really anything and still getting some tea, love it
The English accent really came out at 13:30 and I started dying. I admire how you're staying so level-headed about this and also allowing yourself a bit of humor.
Just had to add, even if you didn’t use clips, I would still watch. Peter Monn doesn’t use clips because of people and their abuse of the copyright system, and I never miss a video. It’s not always about the person you are talking about, it’s your personality that keeps us watching.
Meanwhile, me: Who tf is Lillie Jean?
Don't mind me, I'm just gonna go watch Angelike's Lillee Jean callout video now.
"Who tf is Lillee Jean?" Is actually a completely valid question.
i mean youre not wrong, it actually sums up her entire 'career'
idk who she is either lol so i’m intrigued
😂😂😂😂 I did the same
GIRLL!!! YOU HAD ME THERE FOR A MINUTE! Dont scare us like thattt, also love the energy of calling out/confronting Lillee Jean ❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
I wish so badly someone would finally sue her once and for all for trying to abuse the copyright system constantly.
I ACTUALLY GOT THE NOTIFICATION FOR THIS POST!
WTH. I feel like its been so long since I ACTUALLY got your notifications.
Interestingly. It's videos like this that first brought me to your channel.
Simple truths without crazy editing and elaborate _other stuff_ .
I feel like if this exact video was posted like...... even a year ago it'd be the same story. She needs a new bit. I agree with others she gives off GH vibes
Is this a common thing? I always get her notifications without dinging the bell
They tried to copyright claim a marvel character once. Also I hope RUclips updated the copyright claim system. It’s so easy to take advantage of it.
What people don’t realize is that when they falsely copyright claim videos they are in fact committing a crime, if a prosecutor actually wanted to they could do something about it. They are legal affidavits.
if actual celebrities occasionally have legal battles with photographers over celebs posting their own faces on ig and the photographers claim they have rights to it, lillie jean putting her face on the body of someone else, wearing a dress made by someone else, wearing jewelry that was probably sponsored by a company, and a photographer taken by someone else, she really cant claim aaaanything. also, i thought if you post things on ig you dont have like full rights over whatever was posted, similar to twitter? idk either way she’s desperately grasping for attention and its just so embarrassinggg
she also claimed that photo was edited by a fan to save face when people accused her of faking the met gala
Exactly, how she can claim this is her content when it's literally Katy Perry's? Make it make sense
Exactly, how she can claim this is her content when it's literally Katy Perry's? Make it make sense
The way she can get around using the photo with her face on Katie Perry's body is by saying it is transformative, that said I don't know that it had been transformed enough, and she said that a fan made it for her. If that was true (my doubtful face) then the copyright would be held by the person who made it not Lilli Jean. Proving copyright on photography and artwork is a tough one anyway. I have had to prove it to get my photographs printed at Walgreens I littlerally took my computer in and showed them the RAW files that I had used to combine two photographs. It was ridiculous because it was when I first started using photoshop and it was a crappy job!
The photographer of the picture has copyright or the company he/she is working for. Katy Perry probably doesn’t have any rights, but she could argue her likeness is being used. When Katy posts this picture online she has to pay for licensing. There is no way this lady can claim copyright since the original image is recognizable which makes this artwork not transformative enough.
Be ready for them to keep trying to take your videos down using their many other accounts that they created to make multiple attempts to remove videos about her while also spamming her videos with those accounts
I’ve never wanted to watch videos more than when people copyright strike them or sue them over it. It’s like most of the time that just means they don’t like how they were talked about and I’m petty
ok the *shock* i got from reading the title
Yeeeeeah you BEASTED on that video….alllll of that accomplished in one video?!?! 😂🤣
The photographer who took the Katy Perry photo, if he ever saw this: 🤨
He'll sue the girl who edited the met gala picture, Lillee Jean and Angelika, also the entire world who used his picture.
OK LAW DEGREE😩👏🏻 fr tho I’ve never even heard of lillee Jean until today so they really need to humble themselves lol
youtube stepped up and actually protected a creator, glad to see it
Keep in mind that the picture she keeps claiming OwNErShiP of is a picture that she also claims she got from someone else… it’s
f a n a r t
🙄🥴
Edit: you mention this later in the video lol my bad. I was getting ahead of myself haha
But the photo is literally an edited photo of Katy Perry that she stole 😭😭😭
Edit - never mind you made that point 😂
I was going to watch regardless of the title. I enjoy your channels, especially your makeup channel. I am double your age, but your makeup is always stunning!
That title had me going like, if this is the end of Angelika, she's gonna end on a bang at least.
But seeing how Angelika's getting a lawsuit from Lillee Jean, it's obviously clickbait. Our queen would obviously win this case if it goes to court.
Ngl at first i thought it was by Gabbie Hannah but seeing that it was Lillie Jean and her mother......i wonder if they need the money to maintain the fake followers
Omg I also thought it would be her lol
Lmao idk why but I thought it was the ace family at first😂😂😂
It's not defamation if it's TRUE
“Mad as a box of frogs” pretty much sums up that whole situation
Cant wait to watch the video! Your always my go to videos when I’m the mood to watch RUclips :)
Lol Katy Perry should sue her for photoshopping her face into her picture
She really tried to come for u and got it all wrong 😫you know your in the wrong when RUclips really says 🤠🥰no🥰🤠
This is the first time I hear RUclips making the right decision. Good for you
I honestly had no clue who she was, before your video on her. I kind of think she is VERY full of herself (and not too bright) or she is trying to get more attention to her content by causing "drama" with you.
She’s not bright. She was home schooled in an attic. We are not sure what the end goal is. It seems like it would be more attention and fans.The weird thing if you go watch her Instagram stories don’t say anything, don’t follow or like, you could still be blocked. If you comment something seemingly harmless on a RUclips video, you could be attacked and blocked.
Good to see that it seems like YT is taking a step towards protecting creators
Tater Tatiana is a smaller RUclipsr and she started making videos on LJ. Now her, AND HER MOTHER, have completely harassed TT off of some social media platforms.
im so glad lillee jean and her mom didn’t get their way lol
I don’t comment much but just know I love all your videos. I literally get so excited when I get a RUclips notification saying you uploaded a video
i was worried that she would pull this shit on you. i am SO glad youtube saw through it right away, now sharing this video out of spite of her annoying online presence. its a really good video too!
i feel like this is old tbh angelika there are so many other new topics to talk about.
She clearly has no money and I clout and is just chasing it because she got called out big time and no brands want to work with her and she basically ruined her career by faking it to begin with…
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Top 5 funniest video Angelika has uploaded
I think a good practice to everyone is to try and get a hold of a lawyer at least to inform yourself BEFORE you decide to sue. Cuz y'know. They have read the law way more than you.
That’s a great idea. Unfortunately, lor (lillee’s mom) knows all. She won’t put on a bra for a live stream but trust…she’s outstanding council for lillee jean. 👀
“Pat on the back” is taking me out💀
I clicked so fast when I read the title omg
Love your pfp
@@analog_wav thank you 🥰
f for all closed accounts and their digital rights
When I saw the thumbnail and the title; I just started uncontrollable laughing. I don't know why. 😂😂
Angelika, Why don’t you just photoshop your face really small in the photo of all the photos you use, then it will be YOU PHOTO! 😆
27k followers
12k views with 29 comments on one of her videos… the maths not mathing
Primink made their video 2 years ago, and she's STILL going???
....I miss primink.
I'm sorry i haven't started the video yet but I'm chuckling at her being the title and thumbnail! We love a unbiased news source! 😂
I sweat balls too. I have pcos and I think it’s actually adrenal pcos and it’s causing this all.
There is definitely something up with RUclips because I have been subscribed to you for a long time and I just noticed that I recently somehow got unsubscribed. I have re-subscribed, but I don't know why youtube is doing this, because you're not the only creator that this has happened to me with.
That’s why she lost 5000 subs? So wait you’re gonna want us to believe that Angelika is losing subs because of RUclips? My dude that is the lamest thing I ever heard of.
Could you please sue her just for fun
ive never clicked anything so fast in my life
honestly i don't mind the ""lack"" of clips (idk what's the word but it's like i don't mind that u put less clips n stuffs) bcs you always look great so it's nice to watch the video even if it's almost all just u talking :P
Girl you terrified me w that title 😩
I'll never forget her and her mom harassing me on Twitter for calling them out. They made it so clear that they have way too much time on their hands.
The dragging of her horrid attempt made me giggle! Get her Jade
I think the spot was a heat induced hive. I get them alot and they don't stay around for long but it happened when you turned off your fan.
Maybe a class action lawsuit ? Or maybe just a discussion of one could be interesting
a WHAT NOW?! END?!
Clicked faster than James Charles being in young boys DMs! Love you Angelika! I hope all is okay! 💓💓💓
As soon as I heard the name Lili Jean, the video title started to make a whole lot of sense.
I saw the title of the video and I knew it was gonna be about your Lilee Jean video
I clicked this notification so fast
I can’t imagine being so butt hurt about all this that I would take the actions she did. SMH
oh my GOD i knew this would come sooner or later as soon as you did that video on her 🤦♀ sis really has too much time on her hands
the ending was so abrupt but i'm glad you're ok!
Frist of all, her email to RUclips is sooo unprofessional lmao
Second of all, as an artist I had to learn a lot about copyright especially photo licenses and you reading what she wrote about made me laugh out loud during the entire part of the video 💀
I just hate how entitled some people are. She didn’t take the pic or transformed it to an unrecognizable new artwork. The photographer should get paid. And she can’t use Katy Perry’s likeness.
Girl I woke up about 3 weeks ago and I had been unsubscribed from every single channel I was subscribed to just 7 or 8 hours before...so I don't know what happened but ya I had to remember every person I was subscribed too and I had to start all over....so annoyed ! And I can't remember 1000 damn content creators lol ugh I was so annoyed! I can't b the only person that has happened too ya know ? anyway luv u XOXO
Angela I get notifications for your videos all the time. :)
Craigslist was found liable for crimes committed on it's site but RUclips is immune from liability for the crime of copyright abuse?
it’s so strange this is the first video from you that’s come up on my recommended in weeks, i thought you just hadn’t posted in a while. i wonder why👀
welcome to the club!!!
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Not you making a drama video about your self 😭
That's ridiculous of RUclips, I couldn't access my RUclips for nearly 5 years (long story) so that's horrible they could have shut it if that happened now
I have an old YT account from 2009, that I haven't used since 2011 maybe that is still up and running... haven't logged in ever, but still shows up if I search for it? Lmao wtf yt
Has anyone pointed out that according to her, she use this image made by a fan without giving credit to the fan ?
I follow lillee and laur casually, they do this to everyone who calls them out. Theyre all bark and no bite, just empty threats. They obviously do not have frivolous lawsuit money,
Yes I’m watching this in 1.5x speed to be the first person to see the whole video😂
I don’t know why
But I just watched your WTF
And I noticed I was not Subscribed???
I never had Unsubscribed???
Needless to say I’m resubscribed ‼️‼️‼️
She blocked me on Instagram for commenting “it’s giving Anna Delvy” LMAO
I'm pretty sure under Facebook/Instagram terms and conditions you give them ownership of any images/content posted on their platform, so theoretically they own that picture
So well handled love your channel x
This is wild...
And per let me go watch that video to support my bestie
Finally found you again after not watching RUclips for a bit. Subscribing so fast so I don't lose you again!
Angelika giving everyone a heart attack with the title lmao
Totally not the point but the ‘if I photoshop myself on to billie eilish’ part reminded me of the “btec billie eilish” days 😭
I didn't realize it was now legal to put all rights and copyrights on fan-edited or photoshopped images from already copyrighted images, which I assume is licensed for Getty Images(because they usually buy the right*s from the* copyright holder/photographer), without as I assume, paying for the legal right or asking permission to make her video of how she pretended to be someone else at the MET gala.
hmmmm, interesting.
So she's essentially outing herself for copyright infringement and making money on a photo she didn't have rights to in the first place.
No idea who we talking about so I'll go watch the other video first and then come back. Lol
This video seems so chaotic, I love it
Commenting for engagement!
I’m sorry but does lillee really think she can win this 💀💀
Yes! They are lolcows.
I was just thinking about this lillee Jean video yesterday. It’s been rather quiet. Too quiet. I thought maybe they realized they were being unreasonable. They really came through with this violate her digital rights! 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️she’s going to go to the internet police if you are not careful. Two years back, someone did a reverse goatse on there computer 🤭 they went to the internet police. I can’t remember but I think they have a pretend legal team. I mean totally real legal team. Angelika is / has everything lillee wants multiple successful RUclips channels, the ability to do multiple makeup looks, former LAW STUDENT, beautiful, elegant, all her adult teeth and not in her mothers attic.
Yeah, she is a complete fruit loop.
This is so crazy...
Using my account by commenting on this video 😃 love you!
I laughed throughout, end of. It’s a serious situation that LJ is trying to abuse and misuse to fit her goals and aims but honestly Angelika is giving pure *come at me and get the real world on your back*. I love when logic wins out and not crazy and stupid.
Not even Katy Perry owns the photo it would be the photographer who took it
I love you! Still here! 😘💓
I want Angelika to be my lawyer I swearrrrr 😭😭