Lionel Messi needs a game or 2 to 'get up to speed' - Shaka Hislop | Futbol Americas
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- Today on Futbol Americas, Sebastian Salazar, Herculez Gomez and Shaka Hislop react to Argentina's 2-0 win over Canada in their 2024 Copa America opening match.
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Canada should have finished one of their chances, If you dont take them, Messi will make you pay, and he did just that
Well played by Canada they were unbelievably brave to take the game to Argentina. Messi will be fine, he just had an off night but only in the finishing, and then pulls of a pass, he'll be fine.
They should have played Messi as a right winger
not just in finishing his dribbling and ball control was also poor
@@kurtisbanks7655why
For a 37 y old those nights will become the nrom
Messi didn’t have a “good” game by his standards but still assisted/created both goals for Argentina and was the best player on the field still. GOAT🐐
But the goat needs to
"Get up to speed" 🤣 😊
@@edwardmyers9492he led to ball to the goal which helped create the first chance of goal
@@edwardmyers9492 goal creation/assist are not synonyms.
@@edwardmyers9492 Set up a goal is more important than assist if you know the ball.
@edwardmyers9492 he did create both goals. It's evident.
I'm argentine. Canada really surprised me!. Keep playing like that and you can defeat Chile and Peru.
They will beat 🇨🇱 & 🇵🇪, there!!! 😈😈
They lost 2 nil not sure what you're on about
@KakisKakis-tk7r😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂v
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂no😂😂😂just no😂😂😂
Not Chile
His finishing was uncharacteristically bad… but he played really well outside of that
I really think he would have buried that third one which he intercepted even after being injured but Lautaro took it instead and among those two easy ones,one was justifiable man,he beat the keeper but defender blocked it,I wish that second one was a goal,it would have turned out to be a perfect game for him
Played well did you count how many times he lost the ball
@@Jack-fq4yp all players lose the ball mate, he's also a dribbler so it's normal that he loses the ball more
@@Jack-fq4ypcompletely irrelevant when he assisted both goals that made his team win!. 🤡
@@Jack-fq4ypit looks like you never played football before
He's still got his magic boots even when he forgot to bring his finishing boots 🐐🇦🇷🔥
🤣🤡
@@ivand0007meesi is the goat, go cry about it 😂😂😂
@@Thekingsson911He's already doing it lol.
Nah always been overrated
@@hectormaldonado8776 messi is the goat, go cry about it 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Magical Messi..Never ceases to amaze the world 🇦🇷🐐🔥
Cringe
@@ivand0007rapenaldogs are so unfunny
@@ivand0007 you seem like a kid who watches skibidi toilet everyday, and eagerly waits for the new one to come out.
Messi passing is so good in this game , sadly he was just unlucky in finishing
😂😂😂😂😂
His passing was good thats a lie yes he made a a pass but nottig special very poor for the so call best player
Finished finishing😢
@@dwayneashford19penaldoggy
@@dwayneashford19 penaldo can't make any pass, always gets carried.
The fact that people consider this as one of messi worst performance for his standards with 1 assist , 6 key passes , 5 big chance created and 8.2 sofascore rating . And people call ronaldo performance “ very good “ against czech with 7.1 rating and caused a disallowed goal in offside position . It says it all between the big difference of standards and expectations from messi and ronaldo
Not people, they are CR7 fans. Neutral fans would say CR7 game was not bad. Knowledgeable analysis would evaluate CR7's presence on the field limited tactical aspects. Only CR7 fans and anti-fans who want to troll him give CR7 too much attentions unnecessarily.
@@quanthehiepare you for real what tactical aspect did cr7 limit ??🤣😅
@@quanthehiep it’s funny how messi’s performance where he created 2 goals is seen as bad while ronaldo just being on the pitch is praised.
Very proud of our Canadian National Team.
Messi's 2 assists were the difference tonight.
And you guys were lucky.
How did Davies play
@@marktheshark7588Argentina was lucky Canada didn't finish 3 clear chances in front of goal.
Argentina is lucky the ref didn't call a penalty a give Canada a PK.
You Messi stans are so blind.
@@krumbleme2what penalty?,it wasn't a penalty clown🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@krumbleme2haha what penalty.and dont forget all the chance argentina miss.if all chance being convert than it should be like 6-3 or something so argentina still win clown penaldo fans😂
Messi magic 🪄
Where?
bottled chances the whole game, great "magic"
@@Halamadrid2321 Messi missed the chances he himself creates but still the goals were scored with his made up chances, he even has assists too. Messi is a playmaker. People troll Ronaldo because he offers nothing except waiting for the crosses inside the net, he is never interested in assists or passes and cares for his own statistics. Simple as that and I am not even hating, it's simple fact. But his game against Czech was still good since he played good in that too, Messi is getting bashed for mising chances and yet he has better rating than Ronaldo's good game against Czech. Think Logic
I thought by now based on how they start the World Cup that everybody knows thats simply how Messi Argentina plays their game. They always start slow & lacklustre which makes them seem unpredictable, I assume they are saving their energy for later games to play the bigger better teams then by semi finals they start stepping up their game & u eventually see how unstoppable the team is.
Good game. Argentina has just an amazing team!
Canada has a quality coach.
Makes a big difference
Argentina should have scored 6 goals, they missed 4 clear 1 on 1, also the field was a disaster the ball was bouncing irregularly all over the place
They didn't just miss, the Canadian goalkeeper stood on his head.
Stop blaming the field, both teams played in the same field.
@@ronald7523 Yes, both teams played on the same field, but Argentina's style of precision passing requires a decent pitch. You can't do that on 500 loose patches of grass placed 4 days before the game. BTW, Canada also missed a couple of chances due to that factor. The difference is that Argentina created 4 times as many chances.
@@piscesman54 agreed 👍🏻
Before rushing to blame MLS for Messi's poor finishing in this game, remember that the goalkeeper who stopped him cold on those breakaways is an MLS keeper and the defender who blocked his attempts to make runs into the box on several occasions is an MLS defender.
Good points.
Why is nobody talking about Messi's athletism. Been a long time I saw him this way.
How ? What game you watch ?
In my opinion he’s staying quiet purposefully. He wants to be at his best at the later stages of the tournament. He knows he can’t put on top matches every 3 days anymore. But maybe I’m wrong.
I think he still has that ability, barely 2 years ago he played every minute in the world cup at high level, i think messi is just preserving body for importsnt games, and we will see him go all out @@MirkoS1995
@@MirkoS1995damn man you just can’t say the dude had a bad game
Have to come with this massive copium about him “not playing his hardest because it’s the first game”
@@edwardmyers9492 you probably didn’t even watch the game lol
Yes his finishing was not at his usual clinical levels but he had a great game.
Those chances were just 2 moments. Yes, big moments, but just 2 amongst many moments he created.
Let's look through his impact.
Played Di Maria through but he couldn't control the ball
Played Acuna behind the defense line, with a ball that lured the keeper off his line, but no-one was there to tap in Acuna's square ball.
Played Alvarez through, but he was forced wide after rounding the keeper before mis-hitting his shot.
Dissected the Canada low block leading to the first goal.
Played Otamendi through on goal with freekick 1
Intercepts a ball that leads to Lautaro being through on goal
Played Otamendi through on goal again with freekick 2
Played Lautaro through on goal with a slide rule pass for the second goal
It was a chance creation clinic from Messi. Would have been a solid 10 if he had scored at least one of the goals. So the 2 misses plus the fact that they still won and he was influential in it makes this a very solid 8/10 performance
Good point
Everyone is scared of clowning Messi like they did in first game of the World Cup coz they know once the GOAT gets mad 😠 he goes and win everything 🏆 ❤😂
That's in every game
Or the gift pks
Missed some wide open goals 😂😂😂
@@jibjhbjhbkhvery irrelevant when he assisted both goals for his team to win 2-0!. 🤡
Cringy af
The difference in coverage between Messi's bad performances and Ronaldo's is just 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah.. cuz even on his worst night he was involved in both goals.. and Ronaldo would arguably be still the worst player after scoring a goal.. there's levels to Messi.. and Ronaldo ain't reaching it.
@@aihamat ronaldo was deadass Portugals best player after Vitinha.... difference is that ronaldo would be more clinical in the chances that Messi hadd
@@kyleci8657Ronaldo misses those type of chances every game. Who are you fooling?
@@kyleci8657Ronaldo had 2 or 3 clear cut chances too and missed them.
@@kyleci8657 Ronaldo would be half a yard offside. tf are you talking about. Ronaldo literally botched a 1v1 header in the first half. Ronaldo was literally the lowest rated player after R. Leao. Don;t try the twitter narratives here.. we actually watch the games.
I'm proud of the Canadian team's play, however what's missing is players that can finish.
Vamos Argentina 🇦🇷
Wow! Just wow!! "Messi needs 1 or 2 games to get up to speed", just wow! You guys didn't disappoint. I expected such headline.
Canada played strong
We give Canada their flowers. They did really well and the game was interesting
Messi, a genius, ❤❤❤with that assistance, beat the Canadians
Did Shaka really say Canada at times employed a low block? Bro when it’s “at times” that means it’s just regularly defending. Most of the time Canada was pressed so high up the field leaving so many 1v1 breakaways 😂
MESSI @ 36 years, created 5 BIG CHANCES, had 1 ASSIST and 1 PRE-ASSIST. He was magestic in the 2nd half, asides the 2 chances he didnt convert. He will eat good against Chile & Peru.
Shut up
pre-assist! 😂
yall are just making up stats at this point
@@Tuco745 Too bad, he won't play forever. The game will not be the same again when he leaves the scene ...
@@user-kaykay10😢
CANMNT will eat up well against 🇵🇪& 🇨🇱, there too!! 😈
Shaka always has the best analysis. Fair and balanced.
He just always wants to go against messi.
@@mdzaidshaikh1863 he didn’t say anything bad about him.
@@GinaSigillito Not in this
@@mdzaidshaikh1863He used to until Messi won the WC and he has completely changed his tone towards Messi now. He has won a lot of my respect as analyst
Messi making plays...if health allows he can easily play in 2026 WC. Canada played well and making strides under new coach...very respectable performance.
messi shouldve scored a hattrick. he will cook from next game. everyone was bad today in finishing including canada
For sure.
Messi is from another planet🔥🔥🙌🏻
Messi was best player there despite not scoring but doesn't need a goal to be best he assist instead
Lol I ain't serious 😂 best player? Apart form that assist he didn't do anything lol
@@Giri-bp6zjyour papa can't even pass...u idiot😭🤣
@@Giri-bp6zj he was involved in the 1st goal too, and created the most chances, keep crying.
@@Giri-bp6zj Utterly deluded. He created 6 chances; of which 5 were clear ones.
@Giri-bp6zj He had a poor night for his ridiculous standards, but you're just here trolling
I don't see any comments about alphonso davies defensive skills at the left back position guarding a right winger.
He was playing as a left back last night. Sometimes he plays as Left wing back
Still created two goals while playing on 2nd gear. It's scary what he can do when he gets upto speed
Unfortunately, I don't think playing in MLS is helping with his form (as in he's playing against a lot worse competition than he would be otherwise). He'll probably be up to speed by next match.
All Messi fans can u now see why we get pissed these guys talk about Cristiano playing for Portugal. Messi dosen't have to get to speed with nothing hê has completed football. Even if hê dosen't score ever again it's fine.
Messi created the play. For the first goal and assisted the second. Ronaldo is more of a goal scorer . They have different styles of play. I don’t get the comparison.
Exactly he just needs to a warm up game or two back at a high level. Even on a off-day he is still so impactful for the team.
'Maybe Messi playing in MLS he has half a second more and is able to have more control...'
Canada's central defenders and goalkeeper play in... MLS.
It does look like Messi's level dropped playing in MLS. He's much slower now, takes a little longer to strategize.
What? Did you see his pace today on the counter attack? He's no slower than he was at PSG.
Playing in MLS means nothing,he still plays thr same
He is finished
It is the case he ran 50m with ball and pressures from speedy Canadian. If he only run in the box, he still enough quick. Di Maria gets the same as he took the ball from Argentina's field and failed to score at 1 vs 1. So it is normal, dont blame on the MLS.
Not really davies is just quick af
Goal contribution for him is just amazing if he doesn't score
Argentina looked good. Messi is the greatest playmaker of all time. When he's not scoring insane goals, he's opening up defenses with ridiculous passes.
Scoring goals or not the goat always provide for his team🐐
Beautiful of Messi.... He gets better as the tournament gets tougher. Evidence of God's grace.
The first thing you people need to be talking about is the horrific condition of the pitch. You can't remove a synthetic field and replace it with natural grass 4 days before the inaugural game of such an important tournament. Whoever made that decision needs to be fired on the spot and never again be allowed to make decisions of that nature. You simply cannot play a decent game of football on 500 loose patches of grass. Argentina was forced to change its entire game plan due to that factor, and that also had a significant bearing on the poor finishing. Not only that, playing on such an unstable ground is dangerous, as proven by the foul on Messi that almost put him out of the game and could have easily caused a more serious injury. Americans need to stop thinking that they need to reinvent the wheel in everything they do, and especially thinking that they can do it better. Football is over 100 years old. What they need to do is take the humble seat and learn how thing are done elsewhere in the world. And for God's sake, ditch those embarrassing synthetic grass pitches. That's not how you play football.
Hoping this is Lautaro Martinez's tournament. Vamos, Argentina!
The field was in a very bad shape. Very difficult for both teams to control the ball wile running. But it really affect more to Argentina counterattacks.
The pitch is not the issue
It was not as bad as at the England game yesterday, that pitch was a disgrace.
Excuses Excuses....the pitch was in prime condition.
Just admit Canada gave them a fair game and made things difficult.
@@krumbleme2they put grass over a turf field I know it shouldn’t be an excuse but you don’t know how that feels
@@lexkanyima2195 Yeah? Try playing on 500 loose patches of grass with the ball bouncing all over the place. Have you ever even kicked a ball?
Notice how Gomez and the other guy behave in the presence of a true professional like Shaka.
Canadá gave a big surprise. Also brought North American discipline and physicality something I believe we lack in South America . We value too much individualism and flashy street moves but the game has moved passed this. They faced the worlds best in Argentina but I have no doubt they could beat other countries here. Best wishes from Ecuador
One of the worst Messi games I have ever seen and he still was involved in both the goals.... that's some levels nobody is going to reach.
I say you didn't watch Messi much. This is not Messi worst game. Messi just got old. We all knew that. He missed some shots. No problem. I tell you this. Messi is a GOAT not because he never miss any shot. Messi is a GOAT because he misses and keeps missing goals, but he still keeps trying and keep scoring and helps his teammates scoring. That makes him great.
That was some shocking finishing from Messi (probably the worst match I've seen from him), but yeah, that's why he's the GOAT. When his finishing is off, he makes up for it with everything else lol.
@@ThuyNguyen-zi5jywhich football player just stops trying after missing? None in the UCL that's for sure lol.
I'm no Ronaldo fan before you say anything but I don't think you are correct
@@kingseiryu929 bruh stop deceiving anybody here you're a ronaldo fan... confused fanbase
@@francisdz6773 wanna bet? I can swear on my life. You lose you are cursed with bad luck for next 5 years.
Want?
"Argentina struggled to get their way through." What did this guy smoke?
Argentina had 4 one vs one with the keeper. On any other day, that's 4 goals for them. How do say this was hard?
The other factor besides his age is when you play in a weaker league, you aren’t as sharp. I wish more people knew this. I played club football in Sydney my whole life and when I moved to Melbourne they only had a lower semi professional team near me which allowed me in because they had extensive injuries in their squad. They dropped me to the reserves then the under 20s after a few weeks but allowed me to stay training with the reserves. I had to be on at all times. I eventually broke into the reserves and became a starter. Always play at a level that challenges you if you see potential in your ability to improve
Refs didn't start calling the game fairly until the 2nd goal.
🤡🤡🤡🤡
Lionel Messi surprisingly pulled a stinker. It was hard watching him play last night, never seen him play that terribly!
Otumfour Kojo Agyemang
Shaka speaks facts man
Canada did a descent match, but 🇦🇷 is not only Messi.
Very well said amigo.
I was very impressed with Argentina's defending and you have a great GK in Martinez.
DONT HATE ARGENTINA WAS GREAT ..🇦🇷✨️💯💯💯💯
What a horrible field! This was Lio's worst game in a loong time, but he still created the first goal, and assisted the second. Job done.
I bet he's going to be taking shot after shot in practice to prepare for next match lol.
@@CDmusic10 seriously, that field was criminal. Anybody could've gotten hurt.
They actually put sod on top of TURF!!! WHO APPROVED THAT STUPIDITY?!
Seeing the reports that the pitch was basically bad grass that was painted green on top of flooring that covered turf it makes more sense that the players said it felt like playing on a trampoline
yea his finishing was very poor but his playmaking was great, created bunch of chances and created both goals. That’s what makes him different from the rest. Doesn’t need to score to have an impact.
The run of the striker not the pass that pass was easy 😂😂😂😂
@@dwayneashford19that pass was easy ? Why don’t you go in that level and try passing once
Miss is always there for Argentina even if he did not get a goal but he will do everything to create a chance for others to scores that's why his call the goat🐐🐐
Argentina is a slow starting team. They build as they go through the tournament. I expect their games vs Chile and Peru to be much more dominant.
Nice analysis❤
Julian Alvarez is one to look out for 🍿💪😉🇦🇷🥇🏆
I think the field had a lot to do with why their finishing was all over the place. Its not real grass like in Europe. Its turf with grass on top. The shot doesn’t come off the same. And Canada as well had the same issue. So its possible that the way each team played is not reflective of what they are capable of.
If messi didn't score goal he needs 2 or 3 games but if Ronaldo didn't score he needs to sit on the bench typical ESPN😅
I think both of them got unnecessarily criticised coz although both of them failed to score but both of them had a positive impact on attacking build up, both were good in terms of passing and off the ball movement in their respective matches.
Hahahaha plz dnt compare the best in the world to the best in Saudi Arabia
Different is The goat don't need to score to be effective in a game
When Messi doesn't score he's like Kroos. When Ronaldo doesn't score he's like Lakaka
@@fishyfish6510simple
When he doesn't score he creates .. goals away he assists
the pitch was a disaster!!! you can see ball out of bounce and players miss steps
The is no so called small teams in these competitions, no team can just go and makes numbers, all are the to compete,
Canada was lucky that Argentina didn't put away their chances.I still ain't see Canada making it out the group though.
Sure but you can day Argentina is lucky Canada didn't put away their chances too....
The ref made sure off that win canada players did well
What did the ref do wrong?
@@notOL01Didn't give them a free kick.
@@wifi961 🤣🤣🤣
Messi needs to have some fun, that's all he needs at this stage
Messi’s standard are so high that even when he’s not at his best and missing a few chances still one of the best players in the pitch and grabbing an assist and creating chances and we think he’s playing bad lol
It wasn't as problematic as stated by the crew here. Messi's finishing in this game wasn't on-point. So it could've easily been a lot more. Argentina saw that they could play with the ball in the back field a lot more without stresses of other teams. So yeah, they were playing over-confident at times, but not to a point where Canada "caused problems" for them. I will say that Canada's keeper had a stellar game.
lmao if ronaldo missed those chances you guys would have let him have it
It happens first chance he actually did the right thing and rounds the keeper to hit the defender …the second one a chip went just wide …at 37 still great
Di maria and messi is obviously getting slow, some of the chances they could have buried blindfolded had it been 10 years ago
that kind of a performance from Messi would bother, shock or irritate him a 100 times more than it did or would to anybody else (keeping in mind the comparison of that level are his own standards)
ESPN hypocrisy. I didn't hear them complain about Messi. But always undermined CR7's performance and even existence in Portuguese national team. This is absolutely sickening
let it go kid
Canada drew to France. Argentina won 2-0
Messi does not need to prove anything!!!! He is GOAT!
Lol messi contributed in both goals but they are at the stadium still demanding more from him😭🤦♂️😂! I agree tho. I don’t feel the win unless messi scores
just win not enough if you a " leo messi'... they demand are very high...
Don’t you worry about the goat Shaka. He will rise at the right time
I'm not convinced by Argentina. Canada created some chances it might have given Argentina problems. Brazil is gonna win the whole thing.
These commentators, especially shaka has been an anti-messi untill the 2022 WC which he now took a drastic turn to change his tone, more focusing on messi's genius technical play making style.
Did shaka won any trophy for club and country during his time??? I wonder.
Take the name and face away, and you would have said he didn't finish but was player of the match. Grading standards for messi are too high, which is natural since he is the one and only goat.
Canada didn't create any attacking chances. It was more of defensive - counter-attack. But midfielders has improved especially in the center.
Davies needs to be a LM or Attacking Winger, not defensively position.
David needs more support or better passing the ball to him.
Yeah but if they don't have him on defense then they have no defense at all. There's just no depth on the team.
What?? So not playing him with Miami the last month to rest him for this tourney is backfiring?
Messi greatest power was a through ball assits
I don't know how tf he can do that.
Though he looks innocent face silent kid but his performance is another level.
No scoring goals no problem for messi
This one could have ended in a 5-1 but it ended up being 2-0
Fun game, bad pitch, and big misses.
Canada's problem is scoring, that is nothing new. But their offside trap also needs work.
Let's hope Messi isn't injured because that was a scary tackle.
What does Garnacho need to do to get some minutes in this team?
Canada!!! 🇨🇦 geez way to take it to them!
Messi goat 🐐
One thing I will say is that there is an ignorance that we are seeing from Americans and Canadians regarding refs. Like that ref was historically very anti-Argentina during copa America. But to non-south Americans they don’t know that and make outlandish statements bc they don’t understand the physicality of South American football. Concacaf are GUESTS to this tournament which is why i don’t understand why they are hosts??? Like copa America never had a prayer or religious statement said at the first game…. That was an American idea.
Messi is going to be 37 years old buddy!!! Let’s not be critical of Messi again he is going to be 37!!!!
Miss Shaka with Dan
Venezuela has beat #5 and #7 lets goooooo
I like Herc and Seb but you guys do need a bigger cast. At least one more and the entire dynamic changes
i love futbol americas
Are they in the NBA Countdown studio?
Always looking for ways to praise Messi the FIFFA Boy even though he didn’t score but you guys still criticized Ronaldo for scoring twice. Terrible
5 big chance created, 2 big miss , involved in both goal
Stat speak himself for Messi.
Messi doesn’t need to score unlike Ronaldo to have impact in this game
Ronaldo did not do anything he was ghosted but when the second goal was scored, he behaved as if he had scored
Messi is God of football, and the world has seen it in real time, it's one game in the competition of both euro and the copa America, compare the plays of both players Messi is still Messi and even Ronaldo fully understands and accepts that Messi is God,
He isn't even trying son, and STILL assisted both goals and made the opposition look Sunday League,...hes completed football...hes not even in 1st gear kiddo
Two completely different levels, one creates and manages every attacking play, the other one just scores easy goals created by teammates most of the times… there’s levels you can’t understand apparently.