"dead bodies don't make people sick" That is exactly what lead to the discovery of germs. Doctors working on dead bodies and then helping babies get born without washing up in between
@@taodivinity1556 which have also historically made people sick. it's exactly why the bubonic plague was so devastating - so many people were dying of the plague, they couldn't bury them all fast enough, and the lingering germs emanating from the bodies were infecting other people in the home. also why plague doctors started wearing those beaked masks, they had already picked up on "vapors" coming from the dead that were making others nearby ill.
@@dietotaku Yes, pneumonic plague inhaled from Y. pestis in the air could cause devastating illness and death, just as bubonic plague from fleas transferring Y. pestis from rat to person, and person to person, could.
I've worked with the elderly for many years and have smelled the smell of death many times. Even though it is a horrible smell, it doesn't cause people to pass out.
Say that to those that pass out at the sight of blood. People can indeed pass out from being overwhelmed by smell. Just as people can pass out/seize from certain imagery. Just because it’s rare doesn’t mean it’s not a thing. There’s all kinds of sensory disorders.
I've heard Ms. Ramirez' story before, but this is the most information I've ever heard (like how severe some hospital staff were hurt by the incident, yikes). Thanks so much for putting in the extra research for this video!
Reread what you said: Ebola victims. A random body laying on the floor didn't make anyone sick. It's the disease/ virus that did it. Though a disease/ virus can use a body as a host.
Also I learned the hard way that if you don’t use a specific sink, toilet or bathtub for years gasses can come up through the drains. We had a bathroom that was never used and this happened. Had to run the drains, open all of the windows and evacuate for 5+days
@@marciavoe6284well you see, the S-trap or P-trap or whatever you have in your country, requires water to actually seal off the sewer gas. Water evaporates when you don't use them for a few months or so. Gotta use all the sinks and drains from time to time just so they have enough water in them.
@@GencaySoykan I have a sink and toilet that I don't use, too. I read on the internet that if you pour water down them about once a week, it'll keep water in the traps. That's what I do.
Yes. The S-bend or P-bend that holds water, to keep out the sewer gasses. That water may dry out if that sink, bathtub, or toilet isn't used for a long time.
It's tragic that Gloria lost her life, but her death can certainly allow us to learn something and be safe ourselves :( Your mother taught you something to be aware of, and it may be scary to think about but cautiousness = safety!
@@asrr62 That's the "interactions" part. Drugs are chemicals, as well. Drug interactions are more important than most people think. I ALWAYS cross-check anything I take with my usual prescription(s).
I've actually heard about this case. I do think there's a lot of suspicious things with the investigations where it doesn't seem like standard procedure was followed, and I do believe the medical staff who fell ill while attempting to save her life. The lab investigation that managed to replicate the hypothesized result is certainly interesting in its implications, but without those tests having been done at the time of the first autopsy, which almost certainly isn't part of the standard battery of tests performed in an autopsy, it's truly impossible to know what really happened. If something good came of it, I hope that this case highlighted the importance of due diligence and expansion of tests when the results are inconclusive.
There was nothing suspicious. It was dmso. As a cancer survivor myself, dmso and was a very popular “wives tale” for spot treating cancer. I don’t know about her getting it at Walmart, however we had a place called “Alan’s Paper Supply” that sold it. My eldest son and 2 of my sisters were born at that hospital and I am very well aware of this incident. The hospital was not at fault and they had to protect the staff and patients from a chemical biohazard and to figure out how to proceed for the safety for all. The hospital was torn down for an unrelated reason
I had read somewhere before that there was another theory based around undiagnosed diabetes which triggered keto acidosis but honestly the dmso theory certainly seems to fit better
I've a lot of accounts of how DMSO can be very effective for lot of weird stuff, but everyone who touts its benefits also warns of its danger. If you put it on your skin, you can't so much as allow clothing to touch, or else dyes, detergents, and plastics will get in. If you try to use gloves, the vinyl will get in. Your hands must be clean, but if you use soap, that will get in. This stuff allows just about everything, good and bad, right through your skin.
Oh this case...yeah this one was super weird. A lot of fishy things were going on...like why did they drag their feet on releasing her body for so long? Was it so she was so decomposed that nothing would be found? Because she died of "natural causes" and the stuff making the nurses and doctors ill was "mass hysteria", so why keep her body and claim it was to make sure she wasn't a "biohazard". And who the hell just casually threw out the syringe?!
The thing that I find surprising is that the body was supposedly _that_ decomposed. 10 weeks seems like a long time, but that's also presumably while in a climate-controlled morgue, not just sitting somewhere with the heat, bacteria and other factors that would make ideal conditions for optimized decomposition. Unless something about the body was also just facilitating the decomp unexpectedly quickly...
@@Mokiefragglethey said she was sealed in an air tight aluminum casket as well you’d think that alone would prolong the decomposition process with all of the factors it’s VERY suspicious she was that decomposed by 10 weeks
@dianalynn2938 I was told about 10 years ago that a trend with weathy people was to buy air tight sealed caskets under the assumption that it delayed decomposing, but that it actually accelerated the decomposition because it trapped the heat and gases that were byproductions of natural decomposition much like how if you seal bananas in a jar they rot faster. I can't say how true this is, but it makes sense, and I heard it before this case, for whatever that's worth.
As far as the syringe being disposed of, as someone who worked in a surgery center I can tell you that kind of thing isn't uncommon. I even had conversations with folks in the pathology labs and they would tell me about samples being disposed of accidentally as well. As an aside about that- if anyone is getting some pathology tests in future make sure you actually get results before you pay for those, or at least dispute the charge if you never get results. Sometimes they just never run the tests cause somebody threw out the sample or let it go bad. Edit: To clarify, this wasn't some rinky dink local hospital or anything, it's a major chain of hospitals and a very commonly used chain of pathology labs. I won't name drop, but I will say you've probably heard of the Hospital if you're in the Southeastern US and the pathology lab is national I'm pretty sure.
I saw this story first on Fascinating Horror 8 months ago. I love watching the different takes on stories between Brew, Fascinating Horror, and Plainly Difficult. Great video!
How is it a Walmart cream? They couldn't figure out where she got the chemical. That's kinda misleading. I was expecting it to literally be some body cream from Walmart , it's some home concoction she made herself
From what was said, it likely wasn't a concoction she made herself, but the Walmart DMSO2 cream. According to the video, the cream was available as a solvent but could have had this effect if rubbed directly onto the skin. So, she could have used a Walmart cream.
Wow. Pretty weird that a hospital that so happens to get a visit from the hazmat suits one a year also just so happens to lose a patient under hazmat conditions. I'll bet there were all sorts of stories! I'd be glad to hear them.
This story always upsets me. It is LAUGHABLE to claim that _trained medical professionals_ would _consistently_ develop _intense_ psychosomatic illness from a single patient. The average person among a large outbreak? Maybe. But a team of professionals working on an isolated case? No chance.
The fruit garlic smell is blood ketoacidosis. I've had that happen to me when I was near starving. It causes your blood to go acidic and causes a buildup of acetone in your blood, which is then exhaled and causes your breath to smell flowery.
I'm Diabetic and know this could happen to me. One episode of " NCIS" dealt with a blind photographer and a scent of a person who was Diabetic. The actor was the same guy who played Dr. Phlox on "Enterprise",
Yes, ketoacidosis can make your breath smell flowery, mildly sweet and often faintly alcoholic. But DMSO can reliably cause the breath to smell like garlic specifically, which isn't exactly a sweet or flowery scent to most people. DMSO was a fairly popular bodybuilding and alternative health supplement in the mid 90s to early 2000s; it was used for dissolving prohormones or even certain steroids in, o used as-is with outlandish health claims. Its use was widely documented in many different spheres (alternative health, bodybuilding, etc) in the real early days of the internet. And most everyone would complain about the garlic breath after a few days. Some folks would use so much of it that they could clear out their gym's showers after a workout.
As a cbrn specialist myself first time I heard the story and the reaction the doctors had and how they couldn't use thier limbs for awhile I thought she somehow had a nerve agent brewing in her body lol
I feel bad for the medical staff - imagine being hospitalised for weeks and wheelchair-bound, only to be told it's all in your head! Although all the stuff that happened afterwards such as the delayed release of her body and how the syringe was somehow thrown out were super shady. Hopefully the family are satisfied with the DSMO theory.
I lived close to Riverside that year, it was our local hospital. I can honestly tell you their treatment is horrific. I was there once after an asthma attack and could hear the nurses only few feet away talking about the gift basket they had received from the coroner's for sending them so many bodies😱😱. My best friend went there during a miscarriage and they did something that caused her to nearly bleed to death. This story doesn't surprise me
i live in a different country but the hospital that caused my fathers death also has some really fishy behaviours... i am tired of those kinda people "helping" us and others.. makes me hesitant to seek help
@meirin5316 I'm sorry you lost your father😔. I completely agree with you!!. Couple years ago I went to ER due to pneumonia and my oxygen saturation was 85. They told me to go home and deal with it. I replied that I refused to leave until they gave me oxygen so they had me walk the halls with a nurse who talked about her beauty at her age and how she colored her hair. After I recovered from that I purchased every emergency item I could find so I'd never have to step foot in one of those places ever again. They're a frightening place to be and IMO Not Safe!
It certainly is suspicious. I mean why did the hospital witheld the body for that long? As if someone calculated the time needed for the body to decompose...
The autopsy said that Gloria had elevated levels of acetone. If I remember correctly, the Liver contains an enzyme that, whereupon someone consumes Isopropyl Alcohol, will produce acetone, within the Liver.
I know it's not fully possible to prove this but IMO it's the best theory because it's so messed up actual officials tried to convince a Doctor it was all in her head even tho she experienced lung damage, etc. Also the DMSO could have easily been in something her family didn't know she was rubbing on her skin. The doctors explained she had something on her skin when they got her into the ER. Mix that with the oxygen, the defibrillator, the blood sample, and other possible factors, is a much better explanation for everything that occurred. Compared to their first approach of just telling all these trained professionals that they all just made it up in their heads and reacted due to a sorta placebo effect? That was such BS in my opinion. It's okay they didn't know what happened but they shouldn't have even made those people feel like they just had a psychological response and made it up in their head..
What would they be having a placebo effect reaction to anyway? Even without bringing up the actual physical evidence that *something* happened, why would a bunch of *doctors* have a completely unusual reaction to an allegedly normal medical emergency?
@@sarahblack9333 that's the thing, when this event initially happened they literally tried to tell the medical workers who passed out & some got hospitalized. They tried to convince them that they overreacted. (I could be remembering certain details wrong or forgetting some details)
Oh dead bodies do make people sick. Why do you think they're throwing them over castle walls into an enemy's camp? You just don't willingly give a body away to your enemies unless there's a good reason. °~•.☆.•~°
Those are decomposed bodies. There is still this thought that a newly dead body is dangerous and so many morticians are trying to dispel that so people that need a bit longer with a deceased family member before having them removed is comfortable taking that time.
The doctors, once more, were simply "baffled".....or was it plausible deniability at its finest? That coroner's office official that took her own life.....by any chance was the cause of death two shotgun blasts to the back of the head?
Nocebo. Placebos effect means the person perceives positive results thinking they are receiving treatment for an issue, nocebo rIs the polar opposite of that. They believe they are ill and consequently display the same symptoms.
I think this is the case my mother and I were OBSESSED with. We were watching the news and they mentioned a woman who had crystals in her blood. We were transfixed. And then… NOTHING. It was never mentioned again and we absolutely looked everywhere for the story. It freaked us out that we didn’t hear anything more. BUT since it wasn’t near where we were living, I suppose they wouldn’t really talk more about it.
Also shows they should have MOPP gear and procedures to recognize hazards so 20+ people don't go down trying to care for some chemical-related casualty. Even in the military handbooks, an oily film with any garlicy or fruity smell is considered a potential high-risk chemical warfare situation.
Remember when this took place. It was in the early 90s, before the chemical weapons convention went into effect, and long before current standards. Military handbooks have that info now, but commonly did not back then. Most hospitals also had no idea about chemical weapons, because it was not as easy to find information on it unless you specifically looked for it. They just had info on common things and in many cases had to look through physical books to find out if it was something they didn't know about.
I use DMSO. I put it on my injured shoulder, not my whole body. It definitely helps with my sore shoulder. I am a nurse so I researched DMSO about benefits and possible negative effects.
It's more likely that in administering oxygen, they inadvertently triggered the chemical reaction to create the dangerous chemical, which was then exuded through her skin or passed on via the remaining DMSO lingering on her skin (as it will allow _anything_ to permeate the skin and pass into the bloodstream, which is why it's dangerous despite its potential benefits). The appearance of the crystals in her blood sample were just the first warning that there was something strange specifically manifesting in her blood, showing that is not just a cardiac failure due to a more normal source, like perhaps something to do with her late-stage cancer.
Dimethylsulfone is also known as methylsulfonylmethane (MSM), and is used as a supplement. In fact it's a very common and safe supplement, even FDA approved, used for things like improving energy levels and its potent anti inflammatory and antioxidant effects. I use it myself. Never knew about dimethyl sulfate and how close it was in structure to that. That's pretty scary, really.
It's not scary because the idea in this video is junk science. It had nothing to do with DMSO or MSM. Google "John Michael Sherman" "DMSO" for an article debunking this BS theory. Anyone who had a basic college level education in chemistry would recognize it's not possible that DMSO just willy-nilly turned into DMSO4.
"Dead bodies don't make people sick" most provable false statment in the world. Idk how that person made that statement seriously dangerously bad idea to put out there just imagine living with rotting corpses all the time itd definitely mess you up both physically and mentally
DMSO was touted for everything in the 70s. Luckily I was too young to suffer from anything, but I remember my next-door neighbors father had bottles of it. He always had some scam going. I mean, something that’s made from the leftovers of the papermaking process does not seem to be something that I want to put in my body or on my body.
9:14 Probably missing some context, but on its own, this statement is just bewildering. Of course fumes can come out of a body. That's why we smell alcohol or garlic in somebody's breath. And if the breathed out gas is somehow toxic, then sure, it could hurt people. And as far as I know, her dead body didn't make anybody sick indeed.
Chemicals in creams or other topical products get stronger or even deadly toxic in your body depending on where you apply them. Since she had cervical cancer, I think she applied the cream on an area of her body where she shouldn't have. Because of that, the chemicals in her body from that cream most likely skyrocketed over the limit . . . And that's why all this happened to her.
I feel bad for her family members. I know what it's like to be refused an autopsy of a loved one... And receive little to no closure on their passing. I hope they may be able to find peace.
She was thought to be using DMSO as a relief for her cancer. I lived in Riverside during Ms Ramirez incident. There is or was a good timeline of her treatment and the research done as to what happened on Google. Fascinating read.
Can't tell if this is the same woman as what Joe Scott was talking about or not... he's saying a topical OIL caused her blood to create too much oxygen, releasing nerve gas when pricked with a needle, sending everyone into a deep slumber. She sadly died...
Idk but my sister's a nurse tech but I'm pretty sure they would have to wipe her arm clean of whatever substance that was and not just pierced it with a needle and say it's fine.
Her family said she didn't use it, but you can never REALLY know what your family is up to. I definitely didannounce to my family every remedy I've tried for my ailments especially if she bought some product that was meant to be illegal because of its ingredients, it's doubtful she'd tell others about it.
"Dead bodies don't make people sick" is an idiotic statement. There have been many cases of a dead body making others sick because of toxins, or radioactivity, or just contagion. In some cases the corpse needs to be treated as hazardous waste, especially in cases of radioactive contamination which make last many years.
This case shall forever remain unsolved. They succeeded in making it impossible to completely and definitely solve the case. So the hospital won in the end.
It just sounds like she took dmso4 intentionally or unintentionally… it would be hard for your body to somehow synthesize it naturally and so much of it
@@CrqzyProshe probably didn’t take dsmo 4, since that’s an actual biological weapon. just used dsmo and then with the electrical currents and other life Saying measures it turned into dsmo 2 and then 4.
Never use the Walmart brand "Hillary's Emails" cream. I know, I know, I don't think it's a big deal either, but I also don't want to run the risk of accidentally logging myself off the minecraft server.
Dmso2 can be on a lot of people all you gotta do is go to the store and get lotion or certain products that have its components and bam it can develop. But it's rare that it happens but it will happen to anybody.
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"dead bodies don't make people sick"
That is exactly what lead to the discovery of germs. Doctors working on dead bodies and then helping babies get born without washing up in between
Yep. Then everyone laughed Semmelweis out the building for suggesting washing hands.
Bro, he's talking about the dead's fumes...
@@JA-xv3qpthen they locked him up in an asylum
@@taodivinity1556 which have also historically made people sick. it's exactly why the bubonic plague was so devastating - so many people were dying of the plague, they couldn't bury them all fast enough, and the lingering germs emanating from the bodies were infecting other people in the home. also why plague doctors started wearing those beaked masks, they had already picked up on "vapors" coming from the dead that were making others nearby ill.
@@dietotaku Yes, pneumonic plague inhaled from Y. pestis in the air could cause devastating illness and death, just as bubonic plague from fleas transferring Y. pestis from rat to person, and person to person, could.
I've worked with the elderly for many years and have smelled the smell of death many times. Even though it is a horrible smell, it doesn't cause people to pass out.
Oh, it will. When Keith Richards passes away.
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imo it doesnt even smell bad, just weird. its only decomposed bodies that smell horrible.
Say that to those that pass out at the sight of blood. People can indeed pass out from being overwhelmed by smell. Just as people can pass out/seize from certain imagery. Just because it’s rare doesn’t mean it’s not a thing. There’s all kinds of sensory disorders.
@@calebbannister It usually doesn't thoughh, and I doubt a room full of people will all have sensory disorders
I've heard Ms. Ramirez' story before, but this is the most information I've ever heard (like how severe some hospital staff were hurt by the incident, yikes). Thanks so much for putting in the extra research for this video!
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When did this take place ?
wendigoon also has a really good in depth video about her too
@@PerlaOCThe video said 1994.
"Dead bodies dont make people sick,"
Tell that to Ebola victims families.
Reread what you said: Ebola victims.
A random body laying on the floor didn't make anyone sick. It's the disease/ virus that did it. Though a disease/ virus can use a body as a host.
Mostly they don't, but there are definitely plenty of circumstances in which it is a serious concern
Ok? What does this have to do with the video no one said anything about ebola or said infected dead wasn't dangerous calm down
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@@Purpleshade29 9:02 watch more carefully next time
Scary to think you can potentially create chemical weapons under certain circumstances.
Mustard Gas is a easy one unfortunately.
@@thisislame2207 indeed, luckily it's mostly well known and hopefully not a common accident
I reminds me the funny gas that potatoes emit when decomposing.
@@thisislame2207Chlorine gas is also another easy one to make, whether accidental or deliberate.
@@arcturionblade1077 Yes, do not mix ammonia and bleach, it produces chloramine gas (colloquially called chlorine gas). Same substance as used in WW1.
Also I learned the hard way that if you don’t use a specific sink, toilet or bathtub for years gasses can come up through the drains. We had a bathroom that was never used and this happened. Had to run the drains, open all of the windows and evacuate for 5+days
Say what now. I have a sink I haven't used in 3 years
@@marciavoe6284well you see, the S-trap or P-trap or whatever you have in your country, requires water to actually seal off the sewer gas. Water evaporates when you don't use them for a few months or so. Gotta use all the sinks and drains from time to time just so they have enough water in them.
@@GencaySoykan I have a sink and toilet that I don't use, too. I read on the internet that if you pour water down them about once a week, it'll keep water in the traps. That's what I do.
Yes. The S-bend or P-bend that holds water, to keep out the sewer gasses. That water may dry out if that sink, bathtub, or toilet isn't used for a long time.
@@GencaySoykanI think thats why when you go on vacation youre supposed to seal everything up right? I would not know I can’t afford a vacation yet 😂😂
Gloria Ramírez is why my mother raised me to quadruple check drug interactions and makes sure I have some form of ID showing my meds and dosages
It's tragic that Gloria lost her life, but her death can certainly allow us to learn something and be safe ourselves :( Your mother taught you something to be aware of, and it may be scary to think about but cautiousness = safety!
Don't mix chemicals more importantly! 😁
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That's the "interactions" part. Drugs are chemicals, as well. Drug interactions are more important than most people think. I ALWAYS cross-check anything I take with my usual prescription(s).
yup i take SO many medications for all my chronic illnesses. its scary doctors dont always do their due diligence to check for interactions
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About to pass out myself, goodnight from Toronto, ON❤
I've actually heard about this case. I do think there's a lot of suspicious things with the investigations where it doesn't seem like standard procedure was followed, and I do believe the medical staff who fell ill while attempting to save her life. The lab investigation that managed to replicate the hypothesized result is certainly interesting in its implications, but without those tests having been done at the time of the first autopsy, which almost certainly isn't part of the standard battery of tests performed in an autopsy, it's truly impossible to know what really happened. If something good came of it, I hope that this case highlighted the importance of due diligence and expansion of tests when the results are inconclusive.
The video made it sound like a government coverup, so I guess it was actually just incompetence that seemed incredibly suspicious?
There was nothing suspicious. It was dmso.
As a cancer survivor myself, dmso and was a very popular “wives tale” for spot treating cancer. I don’t know about her getting it at Walmart, however we had a place called “Alan’s Paper Supply” that sold it. My eldest son and 2 of my sisters were born at that hospital and I am very well aware of this incident. The hospital was not at fault and they had to protect the staff and patients from a chemical biohazard and to figure out how to proceed for the safety for all.
The hospital was torn down for an unrelated reason
I had read somewhere before that there was another theory based around undiagnosed diabetes which triggered keto acidosis but honestly the dmso theory certainly seems to fit better
I've heard about this, and have always been curious about it. Now I get to learn more about it. Thanks Brew.
she def was a witch, anti-christian most likely.
Sounds like the hospital is trying to dodge a major lawsuit.
That's just an average day for a hospital... 🫤
Movie like Virus apocalypse almost came 😮
Unsolved mysteries have uncovered this thing before.
@@jamesedwardladislazerrudo1378what’s it called? Have a video link?
Why would it be the hospitals fault? She did it to herself. Sadly it cost her life.
I've a lot of accounts of how DMSO can be very effective for lot of weird stuff, but everyone who touts its benefits also warns of its danger.
If you put it on your skin, you can't so much as allow clothing to touch, or else dyes, detergents, and plastics will get in.
If you try to use gloves, the vinyl will get in.
Your hands must be clean, but if you use soap, that will get in.
This stuff allows just about everything, good and bad, right through your skin.
Oh this case...yeah this one was super weird. A lot of fishy things were going on...like why did they drag their feet on releasing her body for so long? Was it so she was so decomposed that nothing would be found? Because she died of "natural causes" and the stuff making the nurses and doctors ill was "mass hysteria", so why keep her body and claim it was to make sure she wasn't a "biohazard". And who the hell just casually threw out the syringe?!
Yep
The thing that I find surprising is that the body was supposedly _that_ decomposed. 10 weeks seems like a long time, but that's also presumably while in a climate-controlled morgue, not just sitting somewhere with the heat, bacteria and other factors that would make ideal conditions for optimized decomposition. Unless something about the body was also just facilitating the decomp unexpectedly quickly...
@@Mokiefragglethey said she was sealed in an air tight aluminum casket as well you’d think that alone would prolong the decomposition process with all of the factors it’s VERY suspicious she was that decomposed by 10 weeks
@dianalynn2938 I was told about 10 years ago that a trend with weathy people was to buy air tight sealed caskets under the assumption that it delayed decomposing, but that it actually accelerated the decomposition because it trapped the heat and gases that were byproductions of natural decomposition much like how if you seal bananas in a jar they rot faster. I can't say how true this is, but it makes sense, and I heard it before this case, for whatever that's worth.
As far as the syringe being disposed of, as someone who worked in a surgery center I can tell you that kind of thing isn't uncommon. I even had conversations with folks in the pathology labs and they would tell me about samples being disposed of accidentally as well. As an aside about that- if anyone is getting some pathology tests in future make sure you actually get results before you pay for those, or at least dispute the charge if you never get results. Sometimes they just never run the tests cause somebody threw out the sample or let it go bad.
Edit: To clarify, this wasn't some rinky dink local hospital or anything, it's a major chain of hospitals and a very commonly used chain of pathology labs. I won't name drop, but I will say you've probably heard of the Hospital if you're in the Southeastern US and the pathology lab is national I'm pretty sure.
I saw this story first on Fascinating Horror 8 months ago. I love watching the different takes on stories between Brew, Fascinating Horror, and Plainly Difficult. Great video!
How is it a Walmart cream? They couldn't figure out where she got the chemical. That's kinda misleading. I was expecting it to literally be some body cream from Walmart , it's some home concoction she made herself
Hi! Answering your question, he mentioned it in 11:53
@@nemegtoI was wondering the same thing
From what was said, it likely wasn't a concoction she made herself, but the Walmart DMSO2 cream. According to the video, the cream was available as a solvent but could have had this effect if rubbed directly onto the skin. So, she could have used a Walmart cream.
The point is that it could have been one because there apparently are such creams.
It's called phoney and contaminated products. It happens alot
My mom worked at the hospital at the time. She had a lot of stories about it. Itt's been long torn down and now there's a Lowes on the property
Wow. Pretty weird that a hospital that so happens to get a visit from the hazmat suits one a year also just so happens to lose a patient under hazmat conditions.
I'll bet there were all sorts of stories! I'd be glad to hear them.
I came here quick after brew posted and i have actually heard about this case before and the fact that this happened about 30 years ago it's horrific
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RIP, Gloria Ramirez. 🙏🏼❤
This story always upsets me. It is LAUGHABLE to claim that _trained medical professionals_ would _consistently_ develop _intense_ psychosomatic illness from a single patient.
The average person among a large outbreak? Maybe. But a team of professionals working on an isolated case? No chance.
Tell that to cops who have panic attacks when they come into contact with drugs and they label it an overdose and do not release any blood tests.
So why say a Walmart cream? Say the name of it. Walmart don't make anything.
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Yes they do. They have “Equate” their beauty brand. They have many beauty products including Vaseline , lotion , makeup wipes etc.
@@queena8545 They sell Vaseline. They don't make it. Unless you mean they make their own Equate brand of petroleum jelly.
The fruit garlic smell is blood ketoacidosis. I've had that happen to me when I was near starving. It causes your blood to go acidic and causes a buildup of acetone in your blood, which is then exhaled and causes your breath to smell flowery.
That must be terrifying. I’m glad you are okay! ❤
I'm Diabetic and know this could happen to me. One episode of " NCIS" dealt with a blind photographer and a scent of a person who was Diabetic. The actor was the same guy who played Dr. Phlox on "Enterprise",
Yes, ketoacidosis can make your breath smell flowery, mildly sweet and often faintly alcoholic. But DMSO can reliably cause the breath to smell like garlic specifically, which isn't exactly a sweet or flowery scent to most people. DMSO was a fairly popular bodybuilding and alternative health supplement in the mid 90s to early 2000s; it was used for dissolving prohormones or even certain steroids in, o used as-is with outlandish health claims.
Its use was widely documented in many different spheres (alternative health, bodybuilding, etc) in the real early days of the internet. And most everyone would complain about the garlic breath after a few days. Some folks would use so much of it that they could clear out their gym's showers after a workout.
DMSO is also used as a cryoprotectant (allows living cells to be frozen without destroying them)
Bro got conquerors haki
Frfr lol
So that's the color of a king?!?!
Naruhodo!!!!
Kimochi!!!!
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She also got a devil fruit
poor gloria. what a horrible way to go.
The DMCO4 Theory sounds the most grounded and plausible
As a cbrn specialist myself first time I heard the story and the reaction the doctors had and how they couldn't use thier limbs for awhile I thought she somehow had a nerve agent brewing in her body lol
I feel bad for the medical staff - imagine being hospitalised for weeks and wheelchair-bound, only to be told it's all in your head! Although all the stuff that happened afterwards such as the delayed release of her body and how the syringe was somehow thrown out were super shady. Hopefully the family are satisfied with the DSMO theory.
I'm glad Brew is pumping out more high quality content! Thank you Brew
I lived close to Riverside that year, it was our local hospital. I can honestly tell you their treatment is horrific.
I was there once after an asthma attack and could hear the nurses only few feet away talking about the gift basket they had received from the coroner's for sending them so many bodies😱😱.
My best friend went there during a miscarriage and they did something that caused her to nearly bleed to death. This story doesn't surprise me
i live in a different country but the hospital that caused my fathers death also has some really fishy behaviours... i am tired of those kinda people "helping" us and others.. makes me hesitant to seek help
@meirin5316 I'm sorry you lost your father😔.
I completely agree with you!!. Couple years ago I went to ER due to pneumonia and my oxygen saturation was 85. They told me to go home and deal with it. I replied that I refused to leave until they gave me oxygen so they had me walk the halls with a nurse who talked about her beauty at her age and how she colored her hair. After I recovered from that I purchased every emergency item I could find so I'd never have to step foot in one of those places ever again. They're a frightening place to be and IMO Not Safe!
I've heard this story more than once but this was very well detailed. Loved it.
It certainly is suspicious. I mean why did the hospital witheld the body for that long? As if someone calculated the time needed for the body to decompose...
DMSO is also used for cryopreservation of stem cells (10% concentration), we use it in our lab, so this was very interesting to listen to!
This one is practically a case for Mulder & Scully.
The X-Files is an awesome show lol
The show did in fact reference this incident
Or House
So so happy to see Brew and cute lil Bean floating around again.
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That's not a bean that's a tardigrade
@@monkiesbanana321 yeah and it's name is Bean, like a coffee bean.
The autopsy said that Gloria had elevated levels of acetone. If I remember correctly, the Liver contains an enzyme that, whereupon someone consumes Isopropyl Alcohol, will produce acetone, within the Liver.
He literally mentions that in the video and also that the medical examiner said that the levels of acetone were not enough to cause those reactions.
Brew’s videos are always interesting and thought-provoking. It’s always a bonus when he’s in the video!
I know it's not fully possible to prove this but IMO it's the best theory because it's so messed up actual officials tried to convince a Doctor it was all in her head even tho she experienced lung damage, etc. Also the DMSO could have easily been in something her family didn't know she was rubbing on her skin. The doctors explained she had something on her skin when they got her into the ER. Mix that with the oxygen, the defibrillator, the blood sample, and other possible factors, is a much better explanation for everything that occurred. Compared to their first approach of just telling all these trained professionals that they all just made it up in their heads and reacted due to a sorta placebo effect? That was such BS in my opinion. It's okay they didn't know what happened but they shouldn't have even made those people feel like they just had a psychological response and made it up in their head..
What would they be having a placebo effect reaction to anyway? Even without bringing up the actual physical evidence that *something* happened, why would a bunch of *doctors* have a completely unusual reaction to an allegedly normal medical emergency?
@@sarahblack9333 that's the thing, when this event initially happened they literally tried to tell the medical workers who passed out & some got hospitalized. They tried to convince them that they overreacted. (I could be remembering certain details wrong or forgetting some details)
It is sad to hear that the family hardly got closure. Though it is absolutely disgusting to how the hospital handled everything.
Oh dead bodies do make people sick.
Why do you think they're throwing them over castle walls into an enemy's camp?
You just don't willingly give a body away to your enemies unless there's a good reason.
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Those are decomposed bodies.
There is still this thought that a newly dead body is dangerous and so many morticians are trying to dispel that so people that need a bit longer with a deceased family member before having them removed is comfortable taking that time.
@@Marynicole830 yeah but the way they smell will make you feel sicklish if nit used to it. sadly i had to find that out
I haven't watched a Brew vid for months; I hope this is a great vid as always!
Same here, though I do wonder what happened to the other characters (forgot their names lol) and why they seem to have stopped appearing
My chemistry professor once said if you mix DMSO and ketchup and apply it to your feet, you will soon taste tomato in your mouth.
I'm surprised this scenario hasn't been featured on one of the myriad E.R. themed shows.
And you are telling me you couldn't call the fire department and be like "we need a tank and a mask and the 5 minute how to for these folks.
The doctors, once more, were simply "baffled".....or was it plausible deniability at its finest?
That coroner's office official that took her own life.....by any chance was the cause of death two shotgun blasts to the back of the head?
I wonder if she was on any new drug trials
I Actually heard of THIS Story!
Thanks for this Coverage!
Would make an awesome dr. house episode (or double episode)
I used to like in Cali. Been to that hospital numerous times. This was a very strange story.
BREW'S BACK! YAYY! Love you brew!
the algorithm must be mucking Brews uploads. i have not seen one of his videos since last year
No same, rlly weird
Same Brew isn't on my recommended as much as it used to, this is the first Brew video I've watched in like 5 months
Same
same
before : when a woman entered a hospital, it caused a hospital evacuation.
after : How a Walmart Cream Turned a Woman's Body into a Chemical Weapon
Ya i saw that
Nocebo. Placebos effect means the person perceives positive results thinking they are receiving treatment for an issue, nocebo rIs the polar opposite of that. They believe they are ill and consequently display the same symptoms.
A diagnosis of hysteria is a confession of incompetence.
Some people that are near or after a panic attack have had an odor that caused toxicity symptoms for me.
I totally remember when this happened! I lived not far away & the news talked about it a lot.
I think this is the case my mother and I were OBSESSED with. We were watching the news and they mentioned a woman who had crystals in her blood. We were transfixed. And then… NOTHING. It was never mentioned again and we absolutely looked everywhere for the story. It freaked us out that we didn’t hear anything more. BUT since it wasn’t near where we were living, I suppose they wouldn’t really talk more about it.
Extremely sad she lost her life and in trying a remedy potentially endangered others.
Also shows they should have MOPP gear and procedures to recognize hazards so 20+ people don't go down trying to care for some chemical-related casualty. Even in the military handbooks, an oily film with any garlicy or fruity smell is considered a potential high-risk chemical warfare situation.
Remember when this took place. It was in the early 90s, before the chemical weapons convention went into effect, and long before current standards. Military handbooks have that info now, but commonly did not back then. Most hospitals also had no idea about chemical weapons, because it was not as easy to find information on it unless you specifically looked for it. They just had info on common things and in many cases had to look through physical books to find out if it was something they didn't know about.
This screams of coverup.
I use DMSO. I put it on my injured shoulder, not my whole body. It definitely helps with my sore shoulder. I am a nurse so I researched DMSO about benefits and possible negative effects.
That is really fishy. Looks like a cover up for something. Maybe related to avoiding to pay a lot of money...
This is just really unbelievable and sad.
This story was crazy. Thank you for another great video.
4:00 that balance is pretty crazy bro ngl
So when they drew blood, it was exposed to the air and oxidized and thats what hurt everyone?
It's more likely that in administering oxygen, they inadvertently triggered the chemical reaction to create the dangerous chemical, which was then exuded through her skin or passed on via the remaining DMSO lingering on her skin (as it will allow _anything_ to permeate the skin and pass into the bloodstream, which is why it's dangerous despite its potential benefits). The appearance of the crystals in her blood sample were just the first warning that there was something strange specifically manifesting in her blood, showing that is not just a cardiac failure due to a more normal source, like perhaps something to do with her late-stage cancer.
I came right away when Brew posted
Me too
But i commented first
Same
That’s what she said
@@Apupvyou didn’t lol
Dimethylsulfone is also known as methylsulfonylmethane (MSM), and is used as a supplement. In fact it's a very common and safe supplement, even FDA approved, used for things like improving energy levels and its potent anti inflammatory and antioxidant effects. I use it myself. Never knew about dimethyl sulfate and how close it was in structure to that. That's pretty scary, really.
It's not scary because the idea in this video is junk science. It had nothing to do with DMSO or MSM. Google "John Michael Sherman" "DMSO" for an article debunking this BS theory. Anyone who had a basic college level education in chemistry would recognize it's not possible that DMSO just willy-nilly turned into DMSO4.
Urologists used it as a bladder treatment for interstitial Cystitis. It may have dulled the pain of her bladder and uterine cancer pain.
Let’s remember Ms Gloria Ramirez was a real person with feelings, hopes, love for music and TV… let’s not remember her just for her death.
Mass hysteria doesn't cause 23 people to faint! xD
What was that reason?
It’s good to see Brew and his thought provoking stories.
"Dead bodies don't make people sick" most provable false statment in the world. Idk how that person made that statement seriously dangerously bad idea to put out there just imagine living with rotting corpses all the time itd definitely mess you up both physically and mentally
DMSO was touted for everything in the 70s. Luckily I was too young to suffer from anything, but I remember my next-door neighbors father had bottles of it. He always had some scam going. I mean, something that’s made from the leftovers of the papermaking process does not seem to be something that I want to put in my body or on my body.
"DMSO4, which is dear to god a chemical weapon used in WW1"
Good lord lol
9:14 Probably missing some context, but on its own, this statement is just bewildering. Of course fumes can come out of a body. That's why we smell alcohol or garlic in somebody's breath. And if the breathed out gas is somehow toxic, then sure, it could hurt people. And as far as I know, her dead body didn't make anybody sick indeed.
Chemicals in creams or other topical products get stronger or even deadly toxic in your body depending on where you apply them.
Since she had cervical cancer, I think she applied the cream on an area of her body where she shouldn't have. Because of that, the chemicals in her body from that cream most likely skyrocketed over the limit . . . And that's why all this happened to her.
49 times higher absorbtion in groin area
So sad for her and her family.
“Honey you’re radioactive again”
no
Disrespectful.
I feel bad for her family members. I know what it's like to be refused an autopsy of a loved one... And receive little to no closure on their passing. I hope they may be able to find peace.
Rip Gloria. This story has always creeped me out. But she wasn't toxic. The stuff she used was though
She was thought to be using DMSO as a relief for her cancer. I lived in Riverside during Ms Ramirez incident. There is or was a good timeline of her treatment and the research done as to what happened on Google. Fascinating read.
The family did not keep regular contact with Gloria so they couldn't say she didn't use it.
Can't tell if this is the same woman as what Joe Scott was talking about or not... he's saying a topical OIL caused her blood to create too much oxygen, releasing nerve gas when pricked with a needle, sending everyone into a deep slumber. She sadly died...
Idk but my sister's a nurse tech but I'm pretty sure they would have to wipe her arm clean of whatever substance that was and not just pierced it with a needle and say it's fine.
I read "ejaculation" and was promptly confused.
Tf you talkin about?
@@mr.babylegs537 Read it again.
What *word* did you misread as "ejaculation?"
@@snowyforest6058Trust me bro
@@snowyforest6058 that's what I'm sayin
Uh, Acetone IS toxic
Her family said she didn't use it, but you can never REALLY know what your family is up to. I definitely didannounce to my family every remedy I've tried for my ailments especially if she bought some product that was meant to be illegal because of its ingredients, it's doubtful she'd tell others about it.
First, Walmart Cream. Now what's next? Target Cream?
I have a pet Tardigrade just like that. 😆
Dead bodies don't make people sick? I think they can.
They can, but not in THIS way
How to turn a human into a bioweapon:
"gives death a bad name" I think death gives death a bad name
"Dead bodies don't make people sick" is an idiotic statement.
There have been many cases of a dead body making others sick because of toxins, or radioactivity, or just contagion. In some cases the corpse needs to be treated as hazardous waste, especially in cases of radioactive contamination which make last many years.
This case shall forever remain unsolved. They succeeded in making it impossible to completely and definitely solve the case. So the hospital won in the end.
It just sounds like she took dmso4 intentionally or unintentionally… it would be hard for your body to somehow synthesize it naturally and so much of it
@@CrqzyProshe probably didn’t take dsmo 4, since that’s an actual biological weapon. just used dsmo and then with the electrical currents and other life Saying measures it turned into dsmo 2 and then 4.
@@Marynicole830 woops thats what i meant
Oily substance .. reminds me of the people who spontaneously combusted 😅
Never use the Walmart brand "Hillary's Emails" cream. I know, I know, I don't think it's a big deal either, but I also don't want to run the risk of accidentally logging myself off the minecraft server.
Do her emails live rent free in your head ? I thought everyone had already forgotten about her emails and only care about Hunter Biden's laptop ?
No Walmart, this isn't Epigenetic.
new fear unlocked
didn't you guys already cover this one?
I think it might’ve been Wendigoon?
Yeah I swear I heard this story already
Dmso2 can be on a lot of people all you gotta do is go to the store and get lotion or certain products that have its components and bam it can develop. But it's rare that it happens but it will happen to anybody.