A Woman Lived with Her Dad's Corpse for 30 Years, Without Realizing It
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- Опубликовано: 22 апр 2023
- Police officers in Tokyo, Japan, were mortified to find a mummified corpse inside a home, which had been there for the last 30 years. The family claimed that it was their grandfather’s wish to follow an ancient Buddhist monk practice; meditation so deep that he would reach Nehan, or Nirvana.
Why would a family seal their grandfather away, alone in a room without food or water for 30 years? How did he become mummified, and how did the Japanese government never find out? This is the story of how an incident led to a manhunt of over 200,000 lost people.
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“Eleventy-first birthday “ threw me off because I’ve NEVER HEARD it said that way. You’d typically think “one hundred eleventh birthday “
Bilbo Baggins!
@@gwennhall8905 I thought of Bilbo too
Ever read lord of the rings? It has the term Eleventy-first birthday.
Lord of the Rings
same lol
I lived in Japan, and hear this was rather common for famlies to not report the deaths of older people so they can continue to collect retirement pay.
I heard such stories from many different countries. Usually it's a bad idea, because once government finds out it takes back all extra money.
@Old Cat if all they do is take back the money, that's not much of an incentive to report it lol. Worst case, they pay back what they made. I'm sure more likely they'd be punished but yeah
@babaG819 actually it can still be dangerous in that case because rarely do people just hold onto all of the extra money. Potentially you're looking at thousands of USD (or the equivalent of another country's denomination) that you may not have.
@@babaG819you guys don’t know how to use @s??
@@dylannecros3636you guys don’t know how to use @s??
Wait... does this mean that Japan is considered one of the oldest populations, population wise, because of poor census data?
I guess that is the secret to them living long lives and making the west think their lifestyle is the reason why they live so much longer than the rest of us.
By birth rates alone, we could determine the demographic data of a country.
Birth rates is almost surely recorded by hospitals.
No, it really has one of the oldest on average
No, but I like that idea.
The oldest people seems to be concentrated on the rural areas especially Okinawa, instead of big cities like Tokyo.
This takes "I live inside your walls" to a whole new level
Yeah
I live inside of your rooms
She's inside the walls😨
SHE'S INSIDE THE WALLS😱
Well, you can't really say 'live'.
Wait... what other 'levels' are there
"And it even still has teeth!" was said with way too much excitement 😂
Of course he still had teeth, he never used them!
Wow.... 5.67M years... he has a long way to go.
well, how many years do YOU have left?
@@pizzagroom6221 not a lot i reckon
@@pizzagroom6221 Knowing my luck I'll only make it to 5.66M years, right before he comes back.
by then there will probably be technology to revive the dead from your remains + dna...
@@pizzagroom6221 like i'll probably live to 5.5371626M max
or 37, it's a 50/50 chance
It's the Schrödinger's grandpa
Pretty sure after the first year he didn't need food or water 😂😂
lost weight too
Not even the first year, The first 3 days.
Even in the first 2-3 weeks!
These guys are nuts
If he didn't drink water it didn't take long until he didn't need to drink anything ever again, or to eat food, or to breathe.
Don't mess with water, we are 70-60 percent made up of that stuff, so obviously we can't live without replenishing it. We even breathe out moist air. Even though everyone of you guys here will know that, lol
You mean the poor fellow still stunk after 30 years?? And obviously, if the guy is dead, he won't need food or water.
The smell is probably permanent at this point. Throw the whole room away.
@@ASHERUISE smells so bad the house won't catch on fire?
The man was mummified. While it certainly wouldn't have smelled good it's not such contaminating smell like decomposition
@NowiTheDragonLoli if a crime scene is never cleaned and there is no way for the decomposition to be naturally cleaned, such as by vermin, it would continue to stink. I think you misunderstood as well, he was not mummified he wanted to become a living mummy which is not the same thing. He just starved to death but nothing prevented him from decomposition
Well, the room had been locked for 30 years, so most of the accumulated stink from all that time was still in there.
Are we ever getting another video similar to the "why squids become terrifying the deeper the ocean gets" one?
Like why do jellyfish also become more terrifying the deeper the ocean gets? Siphonophores count imo.
I mean... why does literally everything get more terrifying the deeper the ocean gets?
@@SuperDuckyWho We demand answers from the ocean
And here I thought if I went missing for 3 months, no one would realize.
It's been 3 years and you just started talking
I just discovered uncalc in your videos, and I like their music! I'm glad you posted them
@@daddy7860 Thanks! :D
So did u go missing? If so, I didn’t realize.
"They're old. They can't even run that fast"
Excellent observations
And other obvious facts..
There's wide distrust of the "My Number" system here in Japan, because it poses all the privacy risks that Social Security numbers pose in the US. It certainly doesn't help that a lot of payment services are now trying to convince people to link their My Number card to their services, possibly opening the door to individual tracking beyond the use of their services and the creation of the awful kind of credit score system that US has.
If it makes you feel any better, many countries have some sort of "my number" but not the USA (corporate owned) credit score system. That's a foreigh concept here, too.
Yeah, it's a trap, don't.
I wouldn't do it either but I was born with a number
Yeah our SS system definitely has a TON of security flaws and especially gives people an in to prey on elderly people who might be a bit confused about how it works or might not be mentally as sound anymore. There's things in place if that sort of fraud is discovered but the problem is if there's no one checking up on elderly in person then the chances of figuring out they've been taken advantage of are really low.
Basically... they're trying to find the cheapest way to not lose money instead of being decent human beings to their own citizens. It always sucks.
Every developed country has a national identification system. SSNs were never intended as one, just as a way to get social security. But it’s become a de facto one because we don’t have a national identification system. So any fears about such are unfounded and silly.
53 year old granddaughter!
The gvt officials shld have realised that the Kato was long gone.
Its Japan, life expectency is gigantic.
You could easily be 90+ and have a 50 something granddaughter
@@CatManThreeParticularly when extended by mummification
I thought this was a more common practice, having run into gold plated. "living, 100+ year old" monks in several temples, without intentionally seeking them out. I've seen one in Taiwan: 慈航法師 and one in Malaysia (can't remember where). Google also shows one in Koh Samui, Thailand.
Notably, that timeline shown on screen ended in 1903. I assumed there was a revitalization of the practice since then, at least based on how many different temples I have heard about with self-mummified monks on display. I could be wrong though.
The gold plated monks are something different but similar.
WHAT?!? 😱💀
Great episode, and well written too. Though I genuinely miss Brew being on screen, it has complementing some of the dialogues, and enriched your videos in many levels especially the other boys like Grill and Chill. They've been entertaining me in the past few years as well as getting informed. Hope you'd return again! :)
@rowen I couldn't agree more! As a long time fan, who have watched their videos for few years, the characters brought so much personality and is exactly what makes it more unique and special
Sincerely hoping they'd return one day, they're just well loved by many people I think 😭
@rowen Omg I've been fan since late 2020 , so I definitely have seen a lot of changes. I honestly got worried when Spill doesn't appear in her videos anymore and I thought it was just one time thing but now Brew as well as other's have not been very much present. I agree that their work are still great but it's just feeling like something's missing from their videos. I appreciate Brew Crew's works as well. Well I suppose if more people like us talk about it I'm sure they'll notice. Just being optimistic! xD
I miss Brew on screen too.
@@Adrastia welcome to the missing Brew on screen club :')
I like this new version! I may start watching again, I loved the knowledge before but yeah it was as needed. It’s less aggravating and more focused on the content instead of the characters telling the information.
Here in Brazil elderly people after their 65'shave to go yearly to the banks they have accounts to prove they are still alive and also to be able to recieve their retirement pensions
Even so, there are people who can fraud it - the sistem is not perfect
I had to bring my 90+ old grandmother each year to her bank so they took even her signature (or in case she coul'nt sign, her fingerprints), and for her Navy pension, a Navy officer would visit her at home, take fingerprints and a photo
There are no known pictures of Sogen Kato that has ever been released to the public. The illustration at 1:50 is actually from a picture of Tomoji Tanabe, who was the world's oldest living man from 2007 until his death in 2009 at the age of 113.
I see this picture very often misattributed as supposedly being Sogen Kato when it acutally isn't.
Good fact
2:16 “a-ano... honestly, my grandfather’s already dead.”
😭
That “you go girl” was perfect!
An interesting note about the “”my number” system: it’s been difficult to get people, especially the elderly, to sign up for a my number because many of the incentives to use it appeal to younger generations (think ease of use for printing documents at the convenience store, or identifying yourself in online government forms, etc). Anyway, they’ve been offering cash incentives for sign up recently, and suddenly the processing systems are completely overwhelmed and backed up lol.
Cash incentives make sense. Pay a little more up front to prevent decades of pension abuse.
I’m kinda surprised you didn’t mention Zelda Breath of the Wild, this being a pretty big pop culture reference to this self mummification process.
I'm sure those monks eating nuts in the forest for years had severe "Breath of the Wild"
Y'know, thinking about this with supposed 'aging population' increase, I think this might be a significant factor to the population of Japan supposedly having less young people. As in it might be an overblown fact due to various factors, and not exactly exceptional compared to other countries with good standards of living. Also due to the longevity of ages.
I've lived in multiple cities in Japan and considering there's children running around all over the place and huge schools everywhere you look, who knows, maybe.
@@ASHERUISE But that is because there is a lot of people there. Tokyo populations is of lets say tokyo population is of 10 milion people, if only 5 million have children.
It will look like is a lot of children, however when yyou check the total number of people you will se it is a little. Also most people have only one or two, so the next generation there will be fewer and fewer people.
Because this 5 million inclue both parents so it, so the number children will be less than 5 million because like I said most people have one, not always have two and is rare for people have more than two.
The next genaration maybe have more people who may not want a child, so in the end there will be even less and less children each generation.
@@ASHERUISE That is what we call anecdotal evidence and is a logical fallacy and should not be in any discussion. Statistics and numbers matters and they indicate a aging population.
@@nmstranger 's not anecdotal, it's simple observation. Even if I travel everywhere I go like 1/4-1/3 of the people are kids in school uniforms or mini-humans obviously in elementary or younger. There's old people as well, but as an American, I've never thought "OMG there are so many old people here compared to where I come from" but I have observed "OMG there are half a dozen schools on my 3.5 kilometer commute to work even though I live in a normal town and not a big city"
@@ASHERUISE that is literally the definition of an anecdote
I've been hearing a lot about the self mummified monks lately. I'm not sure what the sudden interest again has been lately but I know I didn't hear this story.
Maybe because of Zelda Breath of the Wild? Since the monks in that game seem to reference the practice? (And the new sequel coming out next month renewing interest?)
Are you referring to MrBallen's video? If there's even other people discussing the practice I'd love to hear it.
@@DaimyoD0 Wendigoon also posted a video about the topic recently
So government officials visit elderly people for a holiday.. Japan really knows what it’s doing.
I mean, they didn't know he'd been dead for 30 years so...
No it doesn't, they overwork people, that's why the birth rate is declining.
yet they do nothing for the trafficking of middle and high school girls :(
@@ChocoBunnie ???
@@everythingpony its a serious problem japan ignores
facinating! you learn something new every week with Brew. If this keeps up, 2 million subscribers shouldn’t be far off! (we all expect a celebration video with the whole On the Hill gang!❤️) great video!!!!
this is some of the best pronunciation of japanese from an english speaker i've heard, whether brew is secretly a weeb or just took the time to research pronunciation properly i respect it💖
yet he didn't take the effort to pronounce "amersfoort" correctly at 6:20 (source: learning dutch for 19 months)
@@jakerussell135 what's the correct pronunciation?
@@WindsorMason the A should be pronounced similar to the "a" in "father." it's slight different to that but that's the closest english sound to it
What I’m curious about though that wasn’t addressed was that the motives were painted in broad strokes as “greed” but I’m curious that with people living so long are they in need of the money that is coming to the aged people that they are not able to access themselves? It seems like they addressed the Identity issue which is a symptom but did they really get to the root cause of why people may be going that route of not admitting someone has passed? I’m sure for some it is just “easy money” but with these family situations I wonder if for some losing the money coming from the deceased would make them destitute so it’s more desperation than greed?
Working in the field I do...I know of quite a few cases of families not wanting to/not sending in their dearly departeds documents to the government, for exactly that reason.
Especially in the elderly population, where they rely on the government for a monthly pension.
Losing that one income can literally mean they lose the roof over the head and food on their plate, OR choosing to let their health decline by not paying for their needed medications, heat and hydro.
It's very sad when they have to opt to do something deemed "illegal", just to survive and be able to have a basic need and necessity.
I would call it greedy if they used the extra money to buy a second yacht 🛥️
They lived with a body for extra money 💴 they must have felt somewhat desperate.
It makes sense because if you notice, in that household everyone was elderly or pushing it, even the grand daughter was like 60 (i believe) it didn't sound like they had younger people around.
2:03. this is the first time I've ever heard anyone unironically say that number, and I love it. I almost didn't notice
2:42 As soon as I noticed one of the answers to the community poll was meditation-related, I IMMEDIATELY referred to my Megami Tensei knowledge and guessed it was related to the practice of Sokushinbutsu thanks to the existence of Fiend demon Daisoujou!
As an old man in a G4 commercial once said: “Thank you, Shin Megami Tensei, Noctourne!”
The “you go girl “ is hilarious when you think about the fact this woman is probably double if not triple times Brew’s age
They should consider making an annual health check mandatory. Once done, the pension continues for the next 12 to 18 months.
Very interesting, thanks for the upload, Brew! 👍😎
I appreciate you putting in the effort to get the pronunciations right as best you can
Today i learned brew is canadian.
Is anyone else freaking out that Brew is finally drawing noses on people
This was really interesting! 😮
"Selfishy securing money for her family"
How about avoiding fraud by giving people more money to live, instead of treating them like criminals?
Dang. I love your videos dude
What on earth is going on in Japan? This and tons of Hikikomoris hiding away for decades!?
When you arrive early to a Brew video: WHOOHOO!
Collecting pension that way is pretty common in my country too. Everybody love easy money.
I feel like japan needs to investigate all individuals ages 85 and older to check if they are still alive.
How did I instantly know this was going to be Japan?
Well, they're famous for their hikikomoris
@@dreadkillearn9124 I have no idea what that is.
@@visekual6248 it's basically shut-ins. They never leave their room unless urgent and closed to any social interaction(except maybe parents or relatives)
@@visekual6248 hermit life style
Why would anyone wanna live 100 years or more? If that happened to me I would be annoyed
Same. If I want to go I want to go.
I want to live thousands. I want to see what happens lol
I think they may have suspected he died, but maybe his social security was direct deposited in to his checking account and the family used his checks to pay household bills.
Strange how Japan embraces technology but has antiquated record keeping.
"a magazine still unread"... How do you know?
Wrapped in plastic or envelope I assume
Another RUclipsr by the name of Wendigoon made a video on the practice of self mummification, its an interesting watch, so it felt like i already was aware of what you guys were talking about and learnt more too
Wow your video is so interesting and cool
I knew it! I knew it was related to a Buddhist meditation practice!
This was never about "without realizing", its nothing more than excuse to keep collecting pension which would have stopped if the person was reported to have deceased
For a second I thought that Kato was Cateaux or something with the way you pronounced it, Brew
I'm American but moved to Japan a few years ago. One of the concerns here right now is diabetes rates are skyrocketing. I wonder if it'll bring down life expectancy.
McDonald's
Crazy how can something like this happened
I can't stop thinking about Starfleet officers entering the Hotel Royale & finding the mummy of an ancient astronaut in a bed.
Hey brew, I have a tea for you to try lol. Teaa made of pine needles is also pretty important to the ritual and helps ...dehydrate the monk.
(Can cause diarrhea and vomiting)
For the population decline, I once thought of a rather novel idea; Japan could implement a repatriation system for their diaspora abroad, that allows people verified to be of Japanese descent to emigrate back easily and with little cost (family members included). I do know that they're rather cagey about foreigner immigrants, so allowing their people to return to their ancestral homes may get better reception.
Though the world in general probably needs to look at downsizing the economy for a smaller number of people and a more sustainable future, repatriation is just one way help fill the demographic gaps during the transition.
It’s not a radical idea: many countries have had similar schemes over the years.
So many foreigners go over there anyways, they might as well be part of the population. Maybe eventually all japanese will have ancestry from America lol
Good video.
Soukushinbutsu is usually made by preserving the body in a sculpture. Amateur mistake😂.
If Japan wants to fix their people are getting too old issue, may I, as a friend suggest deep fried butter?
Start young, but start eating the friend butter, and give the ocean a rest, and eat butter fried steak.
This is how America has such impressive numbers for the elderly.
“Start eating the friend butter”- very Soylent Green.
Lol
Nah won’t work, the butter will be from Hokkaido it’ll be too nice
GG to the person who realized, it was probably like a 30 year long run of the Quiet game.
You should've defined and explained the process of mummification.
So, basically, Sogen meditated himself to death.
Everyone talks about the pay gap, but let's talk about the death gap.
This happened on an old episode of Midsommer Murders.
My grandmother lived for 103 years in Romania in a small village, sadly she died few mounths before making 104 years, I not even was going to his funeral because of the bad weather😢
But I don't belive are people whant live 200 years, seems just imposibile to me to belive
Not the pension money again
I love the stories about the Sokushinbutsu.
Absolutely fascinating
"Eleventy First" has me messed up for the rest of video. 😂
Very interesting. And your production values are professional. A like and a sub from me.
Oh awesome I didn't know I just clicked on a new video!! 😊
This case is little bit similliar with what happened in Indonesia last year. That 4 died bodies were founded in a house, and lately identified they'd died at different time, with no crime identified. Several months before it, the daughter said to guess that her mother was still alive n she still cared n fed her.but then the guess was shocked by bad smell n weird appearances that prove her mother was died. 4 months later, the daughter n all family members bodies was founded by their neighbour n police. (sorry, my english is bad)
I mean it sounds like she did realize it, she was just committing fraud and was trying to get out of the legal ramifications. Great video nonetheless!
Soooo... All my life I've been hearing about people living much longer in Japan. Could some of that be an artifact of this system?
Rest In Peace To Them.
I watched wendigoon's video yesterday, today this one is publlished. Nice.
4:42 - 9:50 Is this what’s up with the monks in The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild? (You even mentioned that their bodies become shrines.)
12:38 “CAN WE GET MUCH HIGHER”
Wow!
This is some of the craziest stuff I've ever heard!
I am a fan of Shoulin Kung Fu,but this is taking things too far!
I am glad they are putting a stop to it!
How is “securing revenue for her family” selfish?
In this instance? Because it was fraud.
Because they were subtracting money that should go to another family that really needed it.
@@johnbunceiii2668
Yes it is fraud. She shouldn’t have done it. Those facts don’t inherently make it selfish.
A lot of people would commit fraud if it kept their family off the streets, keep food in their mouths or kept them safe. It’s not right, but it’s also not selfish.
@@lmelki89
Do we know they didn’t need it?
@@MadGrubble Denying other families of money that should’ve went to them just for your own? Definitely selfish.
How many tardigrades do you think are in one cup of coffee.
I had no idea that so many people over the age of 100 were currently living.
WEIRD!!!!!!
THAT IS A WEIRD AND CREEPY PRACTICE! 😖
Very interesting
They all awaits the moments Link returns and then grand him health or stamina upgrades.
Easier fix, stop paying pension and tell the people, you have to claim it in person. That way dead people can't claim pensions.
15:16 Brew what do you mean?? Are you immortal??
Love your videos!!!!! but I miss Grill and Chill on screen, please bring em back❤❤❤❤
omg that took me way too long to do the math to figure out what you meant by elevendeefirst LOL
"The Japanese have low mortality rates from heart disease..." I promised myself no Death Note jokes....
imagine finding out your grandfather mummified himself and then u see it animated 💀💀
ELEVENTY FIRST is now in my vocabulary 😂😂
With all due respect to cultural beliefs, self-mummification sounds like the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. Yikes
🤓
Not as ridiculous as having to suffer for all ethernety after death for loving the "wrong" way.
this and many other religious things get downplayed or brushed off just because it's religion
"they even made a mascot..."
of course they did
115. Divided by almost exactly 100 % of everyone? That's a lot of numbers. I got confused.
And just like I suspected I would, I did NOT like the family's excuse for letting that man stink uninterrupted for 30 years... 🤢 and then had the AuDaCiTy to collect his pension that whole time! 🤮
The mom so shy lol
He's been dead for 30 years?! "um.... eto.... bleh."