Blizz’s SECRET Confirmation! IT’s REAL! | Other Side of Azeroth & An ANTI-Retcon?!
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- Not only has a 5th Old God been reconfirmed, but Blizzard have teased the other side of Azeroth!
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From rock to flesh? spirit can also do that just look s draenor
There is no curse of flesh that the Titans name for spirit
Nice art style. Looks nice!
WISHLISTED.
Only a Sith deals in certainties.
it's 2023. can you please stop saying "Yuh-sharzj"?
Xal'atath literally tells you how to pronounce Y'sharjj in game. you'd think she'd know how to say it right, since they were both around at the same time?
Yah-Sha-Razj
put the 'Sha' in Y'sharjj!
We are really lucky that Bellular gives the devs some ideas on how to get this lore back on track every few videos.
True that!!! 🤣
I'm glad metzen is back
And they continue to do nothing 😂
Put him on the payroll.
Otherwise they would be completely lost.
Agreed. I appreciated Deathwing much more as a character after reading Dawn of the Aspects.
Is it a good read? can you perhaps tell me what you learned more about him from the book?
I play wow I don't read wow
@@deusvult6920 we all appreciate the information of you playing but not reading WoW. Very enlightening.
@@christaylor3604 indeed. my life is forever changed with this knowledge
I'm having a hard time reading this book, as I'm finding it kinda boring to be honest. I mean, the story pacing is not that good. Does it get better by the end?
AHEM.
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Imagine if Azeroth was actually the 5th old god, the name taken from Lovecraft's Azathoth in the same way the other old gods had similar Lovecraftian names. And that the only way to kill Azeroth was to, I dunno destroy the planet with a Sargeras-sized sword ;-) Wouldn't that be a plot twist and a half!
😳🤯
But where are we going to find a giant sword? In this economy?!?
Mind... blown
There better be a Azeroth version of Australia on the other side that is totally bizarre with kangaroos and the dreamtime and shit.
Maybe in the Dreamtime Life is the antagonistic cosmic force we have to face, being a stark contrast up til this point.
we fight life on Draenor. The overgrown, uncontrollable plants are life unchained by order. iirc we even see what happens at the end, which is that a single plant takes over the entire world and then eats itself forever
@@NoConsequenc3 Plants are not necessarily "Life magic"
Nah it’s pretty well established in the canon that the Primals were the embodiment of Life. So while plants may not be “life magic” they were tapped into the ‘Spirit of Life’ and their dominion is ‘Life’.
So yes, the Primals and Evergrowth on Draenor is what happens when the force of Life gets out of control.
So, will this Azerothian Australia be where all of Kalimdor's criminals and undesirables were sent?
@@en21b yes
Stopped playing the game but luv' me some lore speculation.
Agreed the lore is pretty cool!
The new xpac is fantastic!
Who
Dead game no content
Yup
I agree with this, this could have some great implications on the Sabellion/Wrathian feud. Both want the seat, but neither know why it's even vacant. Other than, 'Dad went a bit off the pot and got in with some bad dudes.'
Could open up some more options to really letting us choose who is best for the seat. Saballion is more duty oriented but blinded by said duty where Wrathian is more wreckless but effective. Both qualities I'm sure they share with Deathwing. Maybe they need to start learning from each other without sacrificing their better quality.
It would be a nice way to settle their feud and give them a real rather than soft power among their kin
It would but ultimately what I see happening (haven't watched the video yet so I apologize if this is similarly stated somewhere within) is that this is a parallel to the Dragonwrath storyline almost beat for fucking beat. We know for a fact Blizzard wants Old Gods, judging by the description this is true despite not having played since last month. Dragon Isles in development was said to be infested with the Twilight's Hammer back when its initial location was what we called "Northern Lordaeron" between WPL and EPL in a circle but inaccessible and if you hovered over it wasn't a registered zone.
If you didn't do the Dragonwrath questline, basically Malygos went crazy and had to be put down in Wrath. This led to a power vacuum between Kalecgos who was from the comics and later incorporated into the WoW universe during 2.4's content, and Arygos who was the son of Malygos yet was offscreen for literally all of the lore despite being around since Vanilla because you have to free him in his gnomish form (I think he's a gnome?) in AQ40 after C'thun. So you ultimately get a case of "Hey, this unrelated guy has actually been trying to do shit, and this other guy has been offscreen for God knows how fucking long (since 2.1) and the only reason the devs even remembered he existed was doing Blade's Edge in TBCC, but he's back and also thinks his lineage should guarantee him the spot."
That is just where we are now. For those who haven't done Dragonwrath, well the Old Gods are tied in with this, because Arygos not getting his way over being the new Aspect leads him to side with the Twilight's Hammer who assure him they will kill Kalecgos and he will be able to have his spot as the Aspect of Magic. So he allies with them, ends up getting backstabbed (almost quite literally, Benedictus climbs on his back and stabs in him the skull when they escape) and being used as a pawn to summon a large threat into the world due to having the same blood as the now deceased Aspect of Magic and thus being good enough, namely a very twisted and very powerful creation that is a battering ram for the Old Gods, huh, I wonder if possibly we might see a story about a big monster that's been hinted at like oh I dunno let's just say Galakrond being revived by the Old Gods, Sabellian being killed in course of this likely due to a betrayal following his betrayal, and Galakrond is now back for the Old Gods.
"Saballion is more duty oriented but blinded by said duty where Wrathian is more wreckless but effective."
Problem is: Saballion is also a asshole who buys into his own hype. While we cleared the Jaradim occupation out, he flew up to the Throne and almost started decoration on "his" Throne Room. Wrathion was actually down there helping.
Problem with Wrathion is that he is a help, yes. But as you say he is wreckless and his Methods are honestly questionable at best. Because no matter how you can lay it down on me, i will never see how freeing Garrosh and greatly reducing both Horde and Alliance Military capacities due to a War in another timeline actually helped us prepare against the Invasion of the Legion.
Wrathion being effective? Like opening up a portal at the chamber of the heart of azeroth? What did it accomplish, really? Or his genocidal plan to eliminate either the horde or alliance, where timed proved we needed both? Exactly, where was he effective? His last bit of plan was to use the dagger we all know has the power to keep an old god essence and shove it in Nzoth, well I wonder where that old god went.
@@bastalam The point of his "genocidal plan" was to only have one army that stood united against the legion, because horde and alliance only play together for so long, then go back to killing each other. He was right too, because as soon as the legion was dealt with we had another massive war. Logically speaking, if two nations were fighting amongst each other and then a more powerful one stepped in to destroy both, how likely would the smaller two survive if they were already spending their resources on each other?
idk about you guys but I remember discussing in the wow lore subforums back in vanilla about that book in particular and who were the five old Gods and where they were. people were drawing pentagrams all over azeroth's map back then. it saddens me how much lore discussions we have lost over the years bc blizz purges the official forums
I'd love for a massive new continent. Comparable to classic WoW 👌
or even TBC and wrath, which are about 50% bigger than every expansion besides WoD. If they call it a continent and just make an island the size of the broken isles or whatever, thats disappointing....and not a continent.
so we've been in space, other planets, the primordial plane, went through time and space to another planet in a different timeline/parallel universe AND are able to teleport on a whim to basically everywhere. we got flying ships, real ships, portals and we also been to the core of azeroth but NOT A SINGLE PERSON CARES TO CHECK THE OTHER HALF OF OUR PLANET?
sure... if they wanna ruin the immersion... sure...
pretty sure they stopped poking it after enough people didn’t come back who poked it - kind of like natural selection killing of a variant of a species by having them all die
Well, many have tried to check but they never came back. It would make sense that if an old god was hiding on the other side of the planet they would have things in place to prevent us from going there. Also, it would be no more immersion breaking than literally everything you stated in this very post.
Easy answer, it's shielded somehow like how Pandaria was sealed away in the Mists until MoP. It can't be seen from space and any expedition never returns. Until something happens, the barrier comes down, and there's a scramble to explore this "new" continent.
Pure hopium: Avaloren is the last remnant of the Black Empire, so we get to see it in its glory without time-travel shenanigans. Spend an expansion there, find out the Old Gods ain't so bad after all (or at least, this 5th Old God in Avaloren ain't so bad) leading to Yrel invading with her Light Crusade in the expansion after.
*Copies text and sends to WoW writer*
The Old Gods not being so bad would be bad writing, and it would be completly unnecessary too.
With everything happening on Argus in Legion (and the surrounding Lore) Blizzard already laid the Foundation that the Light might not be as good as it always promoted itself. They expanded it with the Mag'har Questline, showing that the Light is just as bad in their endgoal as the Void, dropping all pretense and go around with the same "Join us or die" attitude.
The Old Gods don't have a reasonable point, they really don't. But the Light apparently doesn't either. They both want to devour everything until everything is either Light or Void. No need to make one or even both seem kinda reasonable.
Hmm, i have to say that i am not really into more AU shenanigans. But i always say as long as it has a good story plot doesnt matter much to me.
I always took the light for order, the dark for chaos, you can't go to far either way there needs to be balance
@@ettibbet5493 order is the titans, completely different from the light, which are the naaru. Chaos is the legion, and the old gods are of the dark.
I will pick up the Pale Beyond when it comes out in two weeks. You guys have come a long way.
Bellular you give Warcraft Lore way more thought about than its actual Creators.
I wish Bliz would hire him for writing ideas.
You right, the wow story team could learn a thing or two from the Bellular team 😁
this is such a fucking circle jerk comment and it's plainly not true at all. Every time the "the lore sucks!!" people bitch and cry it turns out all their theories about the lore are fucking wrong. Every single fucking time. The only person that had it figured out was Pyro and he left because Blizzard fucked up shadowlands so bad.
Facts. He should he head of something at blizzard
No he doesn't 🙄. Where do you think he gets his speculations/theories from? Developer written lore, buddy.
Man I always loved Neltharion, really hope they expand on his lore
they will! patch 10.1. is gonna be called „Embers of Neltharion“
Neltharion was basically the Darth Vader of WoW.
I wish that it was deathwing who wrote the notes because who would have the knowledge about the titans and his views of them
Deathwing has always been one of my favorite "Big Bads" of WoW. I'm excited to learn more about Neltharion, the dragon aspect BEHIND Deathwing! I'm still hoping that there is still some hope for the Black Dragonflight and that they won't be enslaved by the Old Gods once again!
If Xal'atath contained an Old God, who is inside Xal'atoh, Desecrated Image of Gorehowl.
So the elves that evolved from Trolls (bloodthirsty trolls) thanks to the well of eternity (Lifeblood) are vampires. Blood elves, Sylvanas, addiction, Fell elves and so on comes in a new light when you consider that that elves are vampires at the core of their being.
The scribbles sound to me more like Murozond rather than Deathwing but yea very much sounds like rogue dragon vibes.
Congrats on getting the game over the finish line! Video quality and lighting for this video are also great!
We're gonna get to patch 10.2, we're gonna find out that Ysharj had like... 15 danged hearts and its going to be a darkmoon fair raid.
The Xalatath holiday selfies cracked me up. Keep up the good work boys.
I had always thought that the other side of Azeroth was the ruins of Ny'alotha and that at one point we would be empowered by the Titans to defeat some type of amalgamation of the Old Gods, who finally gained enough power to move on the Eastern Kingdoms, Kalimdor and the rest of the fractured land masses via the Maelstrom and the Well of Eternity was actually a seal to keep them trapped or some type of device that stole the Old Gods energy, magic, power, whatever, and converted it to the Arcane magic from the Well. Once the well broke, the Old Gods were able to reclaim Ny'alotha and weaken the bonds that held them in their respective prisons and the whole N'zoth raid was to just make us think we had dealt with the threat when, in fact, we have not. Imagine some type of Giant old God bursting out of the Maelstrom and since, usually, when you get "empowered" in WoW you get larger. But this time it's much, much larger. Imagine a raid or maybe even an open world event raid (crazy right?), with your group spread out on all the different land masses of Azeroth, where giant mountains would be only small hills and rocks and you would have mobs pouring out of all the places where the Old Gods where bound to, like Ulduar, Pandaria, etc, with a Giant Amalgamation of the Old Gods right in the middle.
But with recent events, maybe we will be protecting the Old Gods from the return of a now slightly weakened Sargeras, after his fight with Illidan, who just convinces him to rejoin the Pantheon to defeat the "evil" Old Gods because he is still unaware that the Titans have been lying, in a similar type of raid. Maybe the big human revelation coming is that our ancestors we were not made from the curse of flesh, but directly by the Old Gods. Also, now one must seriously consider that since we know the Titans are lying 100% and portraying the Black Empires rule as bad, maybe they are lying about other things, most notably the "death" of Y'Shaarj.
Another fun little thought experiment, does Light exist without Void or vice versa? What if they birth each other in some sort of paradoxical, Yin and Yang-esque type of synergy. And when you think about it, Order is the direct opposite to Paradoxes. Which is why as far as I've read no actual Light Titans exist and they merely bend it to their will, considering the reported differences between how humans use the Light and how Titans use it. Maybe Arcane energy is just Light and Void forced together as one, canceling its paradoxical nature.
The only thing I know for sure is that these are some very exicting times for lore in WoW.
Love the content Bellular! Thanks for the effort you guys put in!
Ive had a running theory.
What if, when the titans put the old gods to rest within their prisons, and created the Aspects, they used powers, fragments from the old gods to create the aspects? Makes them more akin to why they turned evil. Easier to corrupt something that was once a part of yourself.
I'm really enjoying myself in DF so far; there's lots to do and discover, and I love the expansion of the lore. But at the same time I feel super disconnected from my WoW roots. It's like nothing from the previous expansions matters anymore. How are the characters doing that we've spent years, often more than a decade, getting to know and love? What's up in their lives? How have they recovered from the events of Shadowlands? Have they managed to rebuild what was lost? Or at least begun doing so? It kind of feels like I'm playing a whole new game with similar mechanics but a completely different setting, and I feel a growing need to check in with the old game to see how those stories continue. 🥺
Yeah, we really needed no time skip and an expansion to just rebuild and get comfy again
Yes. I feel like outside of DF, we should also get quest lines that send us to other continents to follow up on old stories from favorite characters. It can pertain to dragon flight or it could just be for nostalgia and more lore building. Maybe the blue dragon flight has some quest lines in Winterspring or we get a nice quest line in Northrend. Maybe rares in certain zones throughout Azeroth drop new cosmetics, pets or mounts which will give more players an incentive to explore and see zones they’ve never seen before or haven’t visited in decades.
@@arrianagreen6473 Why don't rarespawns just level up to the max level of the current Expansion? That's a really easy change that would have had me patrolling old zones all the time.
Always thought it a crying shame the 'dark side' got shuffled in to the bin quietly. So much opportunity for oddball ideas that would've while staying grounded unlike Shadowlands.
Good luck with Pale Beyond's release! Been on my wishlist since OTK's game expo.
I have had this theory since the start of shadowlands. Aman-thul did not rip out Y'shaarj just to kill him but ripped out Oribos. Oribos flowing the dead (spirit, anima) back into the Creator was the natural design. Think the Big Bang and the theory of the universe contracting, but on a mythological level. There are plenty of hints that souls aren't supposed to leave Azeroth.The Titan's plan was to order Azeroth and prevent her rebirth, thus instilling their design stays in place. Also creating a near perfect realm of ordered "death."
16:09 - Yeah, saying that it's a retcon of Kalimdor is kinda like saying that Etheirys is a retcon of Hydaelyn. It isn't. It's just simply what a previous occupant called the star.
I feel like Neltharion might be the one that write those notes in the book lol.
Okay, it was definitely Neltharion lol.
Holy shit, that camera upgrade o.O God damn that's a crisp image!
Never been so early for a vid! Loving the new setup/lighting. Excited to see this story develop in-game 😎
I'm sure theres gonna be people mad at the titans maybe not being the perfect good guys, even though it clearly was hinted at not being the case several times. When they say Yrel became a genocidal crusader for the light, people were getting mad at them "giving the light shades of grey and retconning it from being a pure force of good", when we have had evil stuff like the Scarlet Crusade, an enemy to both the Horde and Alliance, since the very beginning.
Personally I like this stuff.
I've always found the Old Gods content and lore far more interesting than the Legion that was our primary focus for the longest time. I was also hyped for the idea of, and then somewhat let down by, the use of the Old Gods in BFA. I definitely hope they do add more, well thought out Old Gods content and lore going forward as it would rekindle that side of the intrigue behind Azeroth that they kind of lost after BFA.
I can’t believe you guys are pulling this off. I wish you the best of luck with your game project. Go get’em Champ!!!!
I've long been of the opinion that we haven't even really seen the *southern* hemisphere of Azeroth. I mean, the southern parts of both Kalimdor and the Eastern Kingdoms are deserts and tropical rain forests/jungles. Even the southern coast of Pandaria is mostly jungle. Outside of Northrend, all of the cold, snowy regions are that way because of their altitude, not their latitude (which is why I was annoyed when one of the Ironforge fishing dailies has you fish up a species called "Arctic Char" - "artic" doesn't mean "cold", it refers to extreme northern latitudes). All of this suggests that all of the lands of Azeroth that we have seen thus far are located near and above the equator.
Here is a thought, that has been raging in my mind since BFA. What if the Old Gods where manifestations of Azeroth's primal defenses. As most of the old gods mention that the Earth is theirs and the elements as well. Could it be Azeroth is mad? Or am I thinking to Lovecraftain here?
The old gods are not of azeroth. They are of the dark, the quintessential counterforce to the light and the naaru. They sought out azeroth due to her having a world soul and attempted to corrupt her, so she may be corrupt after all.
Awesome content as usual. I'm going to look into this and make a video about it. I'm always hyped for other side of azeroth lore.
Order lore is sketchy, and the annotations could be hinting that we've been sold lies, but equally the Old Gods have a history for deception so this could be a double bluff. "Hey we're gonna lie and tell you what they said are lies" kinda thing.
Yes! Exactly! It's so frustrating to me that the WoW community are often like "Well if we've be lied to then Titans bad & Void good."
I think Blizz have been extremely consistent in showing us that NONE of the fundamental forces particularly have the interests of mortals in mind.
@@dr.zoidberg8666 Probably because content creators like bellular feed into that binary mentality when they talk about the old gods. Or I guess you can say Warcraft's sophomoric writing lends itself to those childishly simplistic statements (especially when Blizzard themselves seem to be positioning it as uncovering the truth of Azeroth hidden away by the Titan's lies).
@@JoelBurger I honestly don't think it's the fault of the writers -- I think the feedback goes in the other direction.
Blizz have tried to do more ambitious, more long term, & more ambiguous stories before. The community hated it.
It's as if the general WoW community has a moral opposition to thinking.
Didn't Chronicals say Kalimdor was the 'largest' continent on Azeroth? I've always believed there were other continents simply based on this wording. You can't be the largest of something if you're the only one. Combine that with the writing about ships that sailed in that direction never heard from again, and there's something back there, whether it's land or just some massive storm. If we're only half the planet (or less) the backside could be just as big with just as much lore as our side. Imagine if there were intelligent races over there, with their own cities, their own hero's who fought old god corruption, dark portal from another planet, going to alternate timelines... We've been fighting Horde and Alliance, but there could be a single faction over there just as big as both of our factions combined.
Second comment but, what if they reintroduce the faction conflict…by having us choose between titans and old gods. They could carry this on over two or three expansions before finally settling the conflict. No idea how they’d handle raids (smartest idea would be to just make raids with story purpose and visually change the players to fit the side being represented, that way the raid doesn’t have to change based on faction). But then they could actually merge hide and alliance, and turn it genuinely into void vs light.
The correct choice is kill all the higher powers and make sure Azeroth never wakes up.
I really love the Dishonored games and the way the geography of that world was handeled:
All of the history and games take place in "The Isles" which are an island chain vaguely themed after different areas of europe. But then there's Pandyssia, a massive continent that absolutely dwarves the isles, being likely about 50 times their size. And it's a continent so dangerous and uninviting that no one has been able to set up a real settlement there.
So, are we moving towards a story where Void and the Old Gods are chaotic good? And they fight the lawful evil Light and Order creatures? The way people have been theorizing for a long time now? Dope.
you know... adding a massive backstory to deathwing aka nelthalrion and giving him the same "feel"as arthas aka the lich king. means wow classic : cataclysm, will have a massive interest when it does come out. think about it. we get to learn all about the events of cataclysm now in a broader spectrum of light and soon after, we get to play cataclysm expansion again in the form of a classic service. well played blizzard
Wish Blizzard would let us beat a confession from Odyn.
So now u could think, what if the old gods were like deadra in eso sometimes good, sometimes using u to their design but still not that bad some of them, and they were twisted by strange powers to look mo strous and be mad ?
It would undo every expansion to date. They don't need to be less evil, we just need all the higher powers to be corrupt in different ways.
Except it seems ridiculous to go back and flesh out old dead villains. Why? Are they going to bring him back from the dead? I surely hope not. What's next? Bring back Onyxia and Arthas? That would be incredibly foolish. Look, I'm a WC2 fanatic. I love the old story and characters. I love Deathwing. I wish there was a way to go back to the original story. The game is so old though, I don't know how it would be done without cheapening what we've already done. Perhaps they're trying to drive up interest in Cataclysm Classic?
Something you said about Neltharion being an underwritten character.
It made me think... what if we actually get to speak to Neltharion through time travel with Nozdormu ?
I guess this can explain Nozdormu becoming Moruzond as well.
I don't know if this has been mentioned before but there's something I've found odd and Bellular if you read this please let us know, or possibly keep an eye out for info on it. But during the intro of the Dracthyr and later installments they talk about Neltharion using a Titan artifact to force the Dracthyr to have loyalty not only to him but to each other. (I'm not done with the Valdrakken rep and questline so maybe it's resolved in there) But if it was a Titan artifact than it predates the experiment at the least. What are your ideas on whether or not this could of been used to force the Aspects into accepting the Titan powers they came to posess? Could this knowledge be what pushed Neltharion over the edge and into madness and possibly what finally breaks Nozdormu as well? I know there's a lot of conjecture in this but it's been my tin foil hat theory since I learned of it.
I’ve been saying that if brought back Deathwing and gave us the epic fight we always wished we had in Cataclysm that would be really awesome
If Azeroth is a Titan, what happens to us when she joins the Pantheon?
It doesn't seem that azeroth is a titan at all -- but rather an exceptionally powerful linchpin of creation itself... something that every fundamental force of the cosmos seems to be vying for control of.
Look at Argus. He woke up and the planet had a massive hole in it. Odds are not good for the mortals if Azeroth wakes up. The Emerald dream is going to end up being what saves everyone, by keeping Azeroth trapped in perma hibernation.
That soundtrack mix though *chef's kiss*
James is a top lad!
Better lore? Are we already seeing the influence of Metzen being partially back? Makes me happy.
I thought that the continents recently moving on the world map was just making space for more island expansions. But likely, there should be no continent or island between Aszara and Maelstrom. As those locations were supposed to be neighbours on the old Kalimdor. The Well of Eternity was in Zin Ashari (I think that was the name) and that's what created the Maelstrom. So the land neighboring it should be Aszara. I mean, we even got some Legion quests in Aszara, suggesting it was near the Night Elven capital.
The problem that I still grapple with is that we've seen what Black Empire was like, as recent as this expansion. Why go to such an extent to retcon the lore, to make the previous good guys seem bad and let's be honest the lore has been total nonsense after legion, why would I even begin to trust what ever the hell they are trying to come up with won't be even worse? So far, I haven't liked one bit of what was said. If I have to choose between Black Empire or titans order, I'll pick titan order every time. Riddle me this, if they were so bad, why did they leave and not stay to rule over us, like the old gods did.
".. what lies beyond the waves."--
There's more to this than meets the eyes (and mind) as well. As you noted, "the other side of Azeroth" is one.
The other of course, could reference underwater. The best part is it doesn't need to be merely underwater-beneath the ocean could be an underground (underneath the water) where an entire civilization could exist or even "another Azeroth" (multiple continents). One way to erase history is to bury it, just like how dinosaur bones are buried so deeply underground. Yeah, this sounds like conspiracy but its a legitimate possibility.
There's also the Emerald Dream that could be retcon'd to be the REAL world where the Black Empire and everything exists in ruins. This could/would make the world we know (Azeroth-EK, Kalimdor, Northrend, etc.) as a false world the Titans created before/after they shoved the real world into the other dimension (Emerald Dream).
I hate to say this in a way Blizzard could abuse to the extreme but.. THE POSSIBILITIES ARE ENDLESS. -sigh
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@16:40 ".. true name."
Well this is something even more annoying. Given the talk of nurturing the worlds flesh and true names, the continent itself could be an old god (similar to how N'Zoth's body was the land where the well of eternity was & Wandering Isle on a turtle's back).
Fascinating that they are giving us more reasons to care about Deathwing, something that would have been really good to have before the release of Cataclysm, consider the current progression of "classic WoW". 🤔
That's a bad comparison though, Hibernia, Ireland and Éire all come from the same word ultimately form proto-celtic *Φīweryū.
You know one thing that I would be interested in seeing is a benevolent Old God, or at least one that isn’t chaotic evil.
Old Gods and the Void is taken from Lovecraftian lore and slightly modified. Old Gods are not benevolent. They are pure evil. They seek to dominate us and do their bid. They are the creations of the Void lords. The antithesis of an Old God would be the Naaru and we already have them.
The light is all about one truth and you could say it’s the same with order. While the void is about many possibilities, half truths and lies.
Which is why the dreadlords said it was it easy to subvert order and the light. While void is harder to subvert, since they are open to many possibilities.
Atleast they do not pull out another Jailer. Right?
L.E: We not only just know or sympathize with Arthas. We played as him. We lived it.
Who knows, maybe they're expanding Neltharion's character so we'd be more interested in Cata Classic
Just imagine, we encounter some (gameplay) facts about the titans rewriting of history which leads to a new expansion about travel back in time to challenge the titans before they „mess the world up“
What if the author is Nozdormu? They are building up to reveal how he turns into Murozond. What if Nozdormu learns some «truth» of the Titans and Old Gods, and the book notes is how he reflects on these «truths». Since he’s the Timeless One he could have told Neltharion in the past and given him the book?
I'm guessing that the Old God name for Kalimdor was Nya'lotha
Something tells me that Xalatath was the fifth old god that was destroyed by the other four because she wasn’t as evil as the other. That it was her thanks to whom the black empire was so progressive and majestic. But when she was destroyed and the titans saw only the four old gods that were pure evil.
I think Xalatath could be our way to see the void from not just the evil point of view.
Read about Nyarlathotep. She is far more evil than N'zoth. Where Y'shaarj is just the perfect Old God that dominates you and makes you cower in fear.....she just plants seeds and just feast upon the chaos we create.
THANK YOU FOR SAYING WE NEED ROOM FOR HISTORY AND CHANGE OVER HISTORY PEOPLE SO OBSESSED WITH RET CON AS A BUZ WORD
That lighting looks awesome
Thanks! New camera :D (Fuji X-H2)
Its been like 20 years. Can we for christs sake make some REAL damn progress in saving this problem planet?
What if nozdormu is slipping into madness and he wrote it? I forget what his corrupted name will be.
Goddamn look at that quality. Love to see the continued improvements
The fifth old god is Azeroth herself. >.> What if... there was no curse of flesh? What if life was fleshy to begin with and all the Titan evidence we see is the Titans trying to subdue the fleshy creatures of Azeroth by replacing them with stone and metal?
Oh man the way they're setting up the lore right now makes me so excited for future expansions and what they can do with them. Fingers crossed this good streak continues!
Right?! I love the lore videos on this channel too.
I mean, if boats that sail there never return, what better way to get there than by the wings of a powerful dragon flight.
Hyped for the Pale Beyond!
My only gripe with a hidden continent of titan hating cultists etc would be that Blizz would need a compelling reason as to why they didn't show up in Legion when Sargaras was literally in the sky. Wouldn't they want to defend Azeroth from the titans including him and the burning legion which is bent on destroying old gods? Just saying makes no sense they would sit out.
Now im hyped for whats to come
Well, we can't really call the old gods all magnanimous either. They are just the other side of the coin since they are also invaders from space just as much as the Titans are. One thing can say tho is, they (Void Lords)are from the void. They are so alien that they cannot exist in this space and must use specially created avatars (Old Gods) to plant their seeds in this realm. That is the information they decided to omit when they recruited Neltharion to their cause.
I live near Ireland, it's a little village in my home county of Bedfordshire
New York was actually founded by the Dutch and was called New Amsterdam. :)
New York is named after York the city in England, that's why we have New London, and New England....
I'd like to see an expansion where we kill the Titans or imprison them.
It's a good idea. Blizzard should connect all the land masses together so we can flight to each continents without using ships or portals or taxi. Seamless zone is what makes wow a strong mmo and they should develop in that direction
Azeroth has Old God backne confirmed!
What if the "Terrible bargain" Iridikron took, according to Alexstrasza, was with this fifth old god? This could be how we discover it once we will probably face him in 10.1
If there's another side to Azeroth that no one has found in 10.000+ years, then the creatures living on Azeroth must be so dumb there could be another city next to Stormwind that nobody noticed yet.
Imagine the main reason Deathwing went mad and Nozdormu became Murazound because they discovered the very truth about the titans being bunch of liars and the old gods are actually the real essence of Azeroth? Maybe?
Isn't Avelorn from Warhammer Fantasy?
Are people really not aware that the old gods are the next xpac? so yes they will come into the end of DF. That is 100% confirmed.
i think another motive for them trying to up interest in deathwing lore could be becauseeeeeeee what happens after wrath classic XD
But... how do boats washing up on shores "prove" that there are other lands? You're aware boats can be damaged and sunk without ever encountering land right?
I tried your demo of The Pale Beyond. I really like it!
We have been known that there's a 5th old God hanging around though?
Also orcs came from rocks without old god influence
Those „comments“ in the book from the Forbidden Reach sound awfully like the texts you could find in the Chromie Time Event
Am I crazy or does no one acknowledge how the well of eternity must have just been filled with azerite?
What about the moons? A moon could easily fit a fifth old god lol.
Good luck with the game!
Also, retcon Deathwing to make him a better character and all is a nice move for retail and for classic Cata 😅