Sig MK 25 is an awesome firearm; if I had to grab a firearm during the apocalypse, I would grab my MK25. It’s accurate , reliable, and a work horse; they just work.
I have owned both the Beretta M9 and several versions of the P226, I love them both, but I slightly perfer the M9. The M9 or 92FS has such a smooth action, its one of the best handguns ever created
Same, I think they are both stellar pistols and I think the "pinnacle" versions of each, the M9a3 and MK25, would stand up perfectly well if not better compared to cheap striker pistols used more often today when compared on reliability and durability. I enjoy both but if I was absolutely forced to only keep one it would definitely be the M9, and if only one M9, the M9a3. It is second to none except maybe the MK23 as a suppressor host, and properly maintained probably one of the most reliable pistol designs of all time. Plus, as you say, Berettas always have that ball-bearing smooth slide action from the factory that you generally only get on a 1911 or 22x after a gunsmith has given it some individual TLC first.
I am a 1911 die hard. I own 3 of them. When I started working for different security companies there were caliber and authorized brands. First company was only 9mm or .40. So at that time I had a Beretta 92FS because I had used it late before it had replaced the 1911 as the M9. Later they authorized .45ACP so I got lucky and used my Springfield 1911 very close to a pure 1911 system. I worked for several companies later and they didn't care so I still carried the 1911. The current one I work for is still 9mm or .40. This I wanted the best. I had bought the SIG P226 7 years earlier because of it's legendary reliability. I played with it on many matches and did very well. So this is my duty pistol now and I will outshoot everybody in the company with the exception of our instructor. He too carries the P226 in 9mm. Truly an outstanding service pistol.
The SIG Sauer's reliability beat out the Beretta during those military trials, but the US Military chose the Beretta due to its lower overall pricing. The SEALS chose the SIG Sauer over the Beretta because the SIG was/is the more reliable pistol of the two, regardless of price.
That is completely false. Both pistols passed the stated specifications. Yes, Beretta was chosen for slight savings on spare parts. But you have to choose a winner. Both pistols came in at same cost. The SEAL issue was their own doing. I explain what happened in several videos. Much misinformation
@SmallArmsSolutions I saw the 1984 testing trials report a couple of years ago. The SIG Sauer had the best reliability performace out of all the pistols tested, by a significant margin (2,877 mean rounds between stoppages). However, the SIG Sauer was more costly overall, in lieu of its higher replacement parts cost. I never said, or even suggested, that the Beretta failed the trials - it was #2 in overall reliability (1,750 mean rounds between stoppages). The Military contract winner simply came down to overall system cost, with the Beretta being less expensive in lieu of the aforementioned replacement parts cost differential. Completely true. I've stated no misinformation. Personally, I've handled and shot the Beretta 92FS on only three occasions - rentals at two different indoor shooting ranges... so not very much at all. In my own direct personal experience, the SIG Sauer P226 MK25 (0 malfunctions in about 5,000 rounds) is more reliable than the Beretta 92FS (7 FTF malfunctions in 300 rounds). Granted I prefer the Beretta's longer barrel, and IMHO the Beretta is a "sexier" looking gun than the P226. Both are very soft shooting with very smooth operation. I find the SIGs OEM factory stock steel sights to be quicker and easier for my aging eyes to pick up than the Beretta's sights. I prefer the P226's DA/SA SRT trigger action to that of the Beretta 92FS. I love the P226's frame-mounted decocker, while I dislike the Beretta's slide-mounted safety. In off-hand slow-fire shooting, I'm more accurate with my P226 MK25 than any other 9mm Luger pistol I've ever fired: SIG Sauer, S&W M&P, Glock, Beretta, Springfield Armory XDm, H&K, Walther.
Both pistols met design perimeters. Beretta had other features as well the government was looking for. That number is no longer accurate, in fact after the army adopted the M9, final tweaking was done to the design before issue. It far exceeded 2877 MRBS. The US government did not get a compromised pistol. Bot met requirements. The 92FS has been far more issued throughout the world than any other 9mm handgun in the west (with exception of High Power, but different era firearm.) Personally, I did a test on the 92FS, 2 failures is 20,500 rounds. One bad round and a locking block failure around 19,500 or so rounds. So that far far exceeds that 1,750 MRBS. According to the US government last numbers the M9 experienced 1 in 22,000 MRBS. I owned both. Have for many years. Used them all over the world. I prefer the M9. It has several features I feel make for a better service pistol. But thats my opinion. It all comes down to government requirements. What meets and fails to meet them. If two both meet, now competitive bid. Only one can win. The XM9 program, that was done right. XM17, absolutely not.
I have a 229 legion that was bought for the Price of a Glock and a half. There’s something about that decocker and the hammer that is just so awesome. I love Glock pistols and carry them. But man that is an ingenious design. I would like the 226 for its larger slide and mass maybe In 357sig ? Idk tho. Great job Chris and H !🇺🇸
Are all US military pistols required to have a chrome lined barrel? Some say the have bought mk25 without chrome barrel, mine is chrome but a dull color compared to a m9 chrome barrel, guessing poeple are mistaking this for non chrome lining.
The tan colored version of the P226 is called the "scorpion" not a MK25 and was never officially used by the Navy due to the fact that it lacked the anti corrosion finishing that the MK25 has.
We do have the History of the HK USP already up...you can search for that under our videos. But I'm loading some more HK material as we speak. -Heather
since I live in Canada im also stuck with the 10 round mags with my mk25. however my mags are really tight. tenth round is a pain to load. Did yours get looser over time?
I wouldn't say "unrecognizable." They look basically the same. The extractor is now external, the grips are different, and they have a rail. All pretty minor changes. Externally they are almost identical, internally they are as well. With the exception of the folded slide.
The actual p226 used originally by NSW was a standard German made p226. They were not marked mk 25, neither did it 😅have an ⚓ on the slide, or any special anti- corrosion finish. Just as with the mk 18 (not so marked either), the mk 25 was simply the NSW internal designation for the weapon.
@@SmallArmsSolutionsI agree that the later p226 used by NSW were American made as you stated. In my comment I said "The actual P226 as originally used my NSW".😊
These German made one ended in mid 1990’s when Sig started production in the US. Sig use only made stainless steel slides. Made those rolled stamped slides obsolete.
Yes, I have seen and used a several of the early NSW issued p226 pistols with no finish left on the slides except for highly burnished rust. But they kept on chugging with God only knows how many rounds they've fired. By the way, I very much enjoy your videos and content.
I want one soooo bad. I was a S&W fan girl until my rod assembly broke after owning a M&P C 2.0 for three months and only putting 500 rounds through her 🤭🙄😡. I’m not willing to bet my life on a firearm that failed so soon and with such little use! I still like them, but I want something more reliable...something I can trust if they’re is ever a bump in the night!!!
Sig MK 25 is an awesome firearm; if I had to grab a firearm during the apocalypse, I would grab my MK25. It’s accurate , reliable, and a work horse; they just work.
With the low recoil and the amazing quality and accuracy this handgun is an animal. Built as the best for the best military in the world.
I have owned both the Beretta M9 and several versions of the P226, I love them both, but I slightly perfer the M9. The M9 or 92FS has such a smooth action, its one of the best handguns ever created
Same, I think they are both stellar pistols and I think the "pinnacle" versions of each, the M9a3 and MK25, would stand up perfectly well if not better compared to cheap striker pistols used more often today when compared on reliability and durability. I enjoy both but if I was absolutely forced to only keep one it would definitely be the M9, and if only one M9, the M9a3. It is second to none except maybe the MK23 as a suppressor host, and properly maintained probably one of the most reliable pistol designs of all time. Plus, as you say, Berettas always have that ball-bearing smooth slide action from the factory that you generally only get on a 1911 or 22x after a gunsmith has given it some individual TLC first.
P226 MK25 and M9A1 👍🏼
@@FIGNAS83 both are a excellent choice, the CZ 75b is a close 3rd
One of my favorite pistols.
I love my Glocks but I really really love my MK25 its a dream to shoot!!
The Walther P38/P1 has the firing block as well, from the late 1930s. It was really a revolutionary design with its DA/SA action
Great video! I just picked up an all steel SIG P226ST made in 2005. Awesome pistol!
Great info Chris. Really love all the history and detail. Keep up the good work!
P226 and Beretta m9 are my favorite SA/DA handguns. Just got p226 elite , had Beretta m9a4 for a bit too.
I am a 1911 die hard. I own 3 of them. When I started working for different security companies there were caliber and authorized brands. First company was only 9mm or .40. So at that time I had a Beretta 92FS because I had used it late before it had replaced the 1911 as the M9. Later they authorized .45ACP so I got lucky and used my Springfield 1911 very close to a pure 1911 system. I worked for several companies later and they didn't care so I still carried the 1911. The current one I work for is still 9mm or .40. This I wanted the best. I had bought the SIG P226 7 years earlier because of it's legendary reliability. I played with it on many matches and did very well. So this is my duty pistol now and I will outshoot everybody in the company with the exception of our instructor. He too carries the P226 in 9mm. Truly an outstanding service pistol.
Great review on a great firearm. I love my P226 MK25
I e had problems with sig hollow points on a constant basis.
Interesting and informative on an iconic pistol. Thank you and God bless.
Legendary indeed
The 220 was a .45 at the time already? The Swiss Army one (which I would assume to be the original) is 9...
Damn shame SIG stopped make the P227
If it all goes to hell, the MK25 will be the one I grab on the way out the door. Great review as usual, Chris.
The SIG Sauer's reliability beat out the Beretta during those military trials, but the US Military chose the Beretta due to its lower overall pricing.
The SEALS chose the SIG Sauer over the Beretta because the SIG was/is the more reliable pistol of the two, regardless of price.
That is completely false. Both pistols passed the stated specifications. Yes, Beretta was chosen for slight savings on spare parts. But you have to choose a winner. Both pistols came in at same cost. The SEAL issue was their own doing. I explain what happened in several videos. Much misinformation
@SmallArmsSolutions
I saw the 1984 testing trials report a couple of years ago.
The SIG Sauer had the best reliability performace out of all the pistols tested, by a significant margin (2,877 mean rounds between stoppages). However, the SIG Sauer was more costly overall, in lieu of its higher replacement parts cost.
I never said, or even suggested, that the Beretta failed the trials - it was #2 in overall reliability (1,750 mean rounds between stoppages).
The Military contract winner simply came down to overall system cost, with the Beretta being less expensive in lieu of the aforementioned replacement parts cost differential.
Completely true. I've stated no misinformation.
Personally, I've handled and shot the Beretta 92FS on only three occasions - rentals at two different indoor shooting ranges... so not very much at all.
In my own direct personal experience, the SIG Sauer P226 MK25 (0 malfunctions in about 5,000 rounds) is more reliable than the Beretta 92FS (7 FTF malfunctions in 300 rounds).
Granted I prefer the Beretta's longer barrel, and IMHO the Beretta is a "sexier" looking gun than the P226.
Both are very soft shooting with very smooth operation. I find the SIGs OEM factory stock steel sights to be quicker and easier for my aging eyes to pick up than the Beretta's sights.
I prefer the P226's DA/SA SRT trigger action to that of the Beretta 92FS.
I love the P226's frame-mounted decocker, while I dislike the Beretta's slide-mounted safety.
In off-hand slow-fire shooting, I'm more accurate with my P226 MK25 than any other 9mm Luger pistol I've ever fired: SIG Sauer, S&W M&P, Glock, Beretta, Springfield Armory XDm, H&K, Walther.
Both pistols met design perimeters. Beretta had other features as well the government was looking for. That number is no longer accurate, in fact after the army adopted the M9, final tweaking was done to the design before issue. It far exceeded 2877 MRBS. The US government did not get a compromised pistol. Bot met requirements. The 92FS has been far more issued throughout the world than any other 9mm handgun in the west (with exception of High Power, but different era firearm.) Personally, I did a test on the 92FS, 2 failures is 20,500 rounds. One bad round and a locking block failure around 19,500 or so rounds. So that far far exceeds that 1,750 MRBS. According to the US government last numbers the M9 experienced 1 in 22,000 MRBS. I owned both. Have for many years. Used them all over the world. I prefer the M9. It has several features I feel make for a better service pistol. But thats my opinion. It all comes down to government requirements. What meets and fails to meet them. If two both meet, now competitive bid. Only one can win. The XM9 program, that was done right. XM17, absolutely not.
@@SmallArmsSolutions Navy seals switched to Sig from Beretta because of slide crack issues in Beretta.
I have the M11A1, M9A1 G17 G5 and a G19 G3 and love them to death. Great vid once again
I have a 229 legion that was bought for the Price of a Glock and a half. There’s something about that decocker and the hammer that is just so awesome. I love Glock pistols and carry them. But man that is an ingenious design. I would like the 226 for its larger slide and mass maybe In 357sig ? Idk tho. Great job Chris and H !🇺🇸
Are all US military pistols required to have a chrome lined barrel? Some say the have bought mk25 without chrome barrel, mine is chrome but a dull color compared to a m9 chrome barrel, guessing poeple are mistaking this for non chrome lining.
roddew1967 mine is chrome plated.
Chris did the Navy every use the tan MK25's.
MOST of the navy used M9's... dunno what color mk25 the SEALs used.
The tan colored version of the P226 is called the "scorpion" not a MK25 and was never officially used by the Navy due to the fact that it lacked the anti corrosion finishing that the MK25 has.
Amazing video.
Thank you, Chris.
Looking fresh!
In my opinion the P226 is more strong metal built then Glock 17 polymer
Where did the HK videos go?
This is a new channel. We are slowly adding all the old content. The HK videos will be back up soon.
SmallArmsSolutions ok good. I miss my HK content. Would love more on their other pistols too!
We do have the History of the HK USP already up...you can search for that under our videos. But I'm loading some more HK material as we speak. -Heather
SmallArmsSolutions y’all rock!!!
I broke the same parts on my old P225.
You look great. You looks more mean. More powerful.
since I live in Canada im also stuck with the 10 round mags with my mk25. however my mags are really tight. tenth round is a pain to load. Did yours get looser over time?
Dang Chris! You look so much better without the sasquatch beard!
Is this a reload, or did he shave?
This is an older video.
But still a great video !👍
My Top 3
1. 1911
2. P226
3. USP40
So you like everything, each one of those are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
@@alanmeyers3957 My top 3 for each caliber, i meant to say.
The NYPD use the sig p226 and Glock 19.
Does the mk take the standard 226 mag, or a mag built special for the mk??? Thanks for the info.
hognut58 I hope that’s not a serious question
@@CrunchyPilot BAHAHAHA
I think other than the signature decocker and take down lever, the 226 now is not recognizable from the one in the 1985 trial.
I wouldn't say "unrecognizable." They look basically the same. The extractor is now external, the grips are different, and they have a rail. All pretty minor changes. Externally they are almost identical, internally they are as well. With the exception of the folded slide.
Great vid!
Yoy need to get a new microphone stat
The actual p226 used originally by NSW was a standard German made p226. They were not marked mk 25, neither did it 😅have an ⚓ on the slide, or any special anti- corrosion finish. Just as with the mk 18 (not so marked either), the mk 25 was simply the NSW internal designation for the weapon.
Um, not completely correct. The first pistols were as you say, later were all US made with the SS slide. What you see was the latest produced MK25.
@@SmallArmsSolutionsI agree that the later p226 used by NSW were American made as you stated. In my comment I said "The actual P226 as originally used my NSW".😊
These German made one ended in mid 1990’s when Sig started production in the US. Sig use only made stainless steel slides. Made those rolled stamped slides obsolete.
Yes, I have seen and used a several of the early NSW issued p226 pistols with no finish left on the slides except for highly burnished rust. But they kept on chugging with God only knows how many rounds they've fired. By the way, I very much enjoy your videos and content.
Stay firsty my friends....
I want one soooo bad. I was a S&W fan girl until my rod assembly broke after owning a M&P C 2.0 for three months and only putting 500 rounds through her 🤭🙄😡. I’m not willing to bet my life on a firearm that failed so soon and with such little use! I still like them, but I want something more reliable...something I can trust if they’re is ever a bump in the night!!!
Wrong. The original P220 was a 9mm.
Afraid not. It was 45 acp. The 226 is 9mm.
@controlledchaos7808 Sorry. The original P220 was a 9mm.
@z06cowboy72 Yep, you are correct. I stand corrected. After a little research which I should have done first.
@controlledchaos7808 Good job brother.
No not the beard!!!
MISO Rotary fear not, this is an older video.
WTF where's the beard?
Elijah Brooks old video
Ok
Too bad Sig's quality has gone down alot
First!