Was the 3rd EDF in my Byron F-16 the Charm? Let's find out!
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- With all the failures of the previous Changesun Electric Ducted Fans (which had the wrong specs advertised) caused all the headaches and failures. I was about to give up due to a lot of the expense and time it took to modify this Rare Byron F-16. I was about to go back to nitro, until Don D'Edigio graciously sent me a JP Hobby 120 MM fan. Here, I a see if it worked, show my home made Spark Arrestor, and the Castle Creations ESC setup program, I was requested to show. Thanks again to all those who donated models to me in the past and also to Don. Also thanks for watching and please subscribe for more, as the indoor flying is now about to begin.
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Dave
Everything looks great with the new setup! Seems to do everything you want it to do and more with ease and no malfunctions. Glad this worked out after those costly setbacks.
Thanks very much. Yes, now the cost of flights are going down in stead of up. It really flies nice and I am excited to fly it again. Thanks again.
Nice save on the dead stick. I use HET 800 motors in all my big EDF planes. Wonderful quality inrunners. HET 800-73-590 is a common one for 12S lipo 120 mm fan use.
I used to drool over the Byron jets in the early 90's
Yes those are good motors for sure. I was experimenting till Don sent me this motor. I have other vids on it as well. I loved them and it was fun blowing them up in the movie Blue Thunder, since I didn't have to pay for them. LOL. Thanks much.
Hi Dave, I am a great fan of your work since 2008, you always look for solutions and you goal again!! That hard work always pay off!! Don't stop making videos, you are the only rc flyer from the old school on youtube!!
I really appreciate your long time subscription and support. I'm 72 and a lot of learning curves have evolved for me since I started flying 63 years ago for sure. This was just another. Thanks very kindly for your comments.
With all the failures of the previous Changesun Electric Ducted Fans (which had the wrong specs advertised) caused all the headaches and failures. I was about to give up due to a lot of the expense and time it took to modify this Rare Byron F-16. I was about to go back to nitro, until Don D'Edigio graciously sent me a JP Hobby 120 MM fan. Here, I a see if it worked, show my home made Spark Arrestor, and the Castle Creations ESC setup program, I was requested to show. Thanks again to all those who donated models to me in the past and also to Don.
Thanks, Don!
Oh how sweet it is!!!!!!!!!!! Very nice!!!!!!!!!!!Congrats on a great plane you have now. Great job Don!!!!!!
Thanks very kindly Garry. I appreciate that.
Love your videos! I don't think anything else on youtube invokes nostalgia like them. I don't know how I lost your channel from when I was a kid. I remember watching your nitroplanes reviews and dreaming of owning an edf. The videos feel exactly the same (with a bit higher production value), and I love it.
You are very kind. Thanks so much and hope you check out some of my other videos as well. Thanks again.
Beautiful bird glad to see it fly without the plume of smoke ! Thanks for taking the time to share and I'm sorry to hear of all the misfortune , thanks again Dave!
Thanks a lot Ray. I appreciate that. It's all part of the learning curve, as I believe life is a test.
As always a can do attitude beats a "Can't" every time awesome wiring and adventure completed. A project that requires equal level talent and tenacity
Those are very kind words. Thanks very much. I appreciate that. Never give up!
Awesome , what a lovely Jet . Glad you got it flying . All the best ....................
Thanks very kindly, Scott
Dave another great video and job of not giving up on a problem. people like dave and don is what make the rest of us keep the faith.
We all gotta get along for sure. Thanks very much JT!
Dave that was Great ! Thank You for sharing that with us.
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A Big Thank You for your AWESOME Camera lady.
Thanks very much Ron. WE appreciate that very much.
Great flight sir. Really like the idea of the spark arrestor. Thank you for showing us the castle software, the technology in the RC hobby now is amazing.
Thanks very much. I appreciate that.
Was having a headache. Click on your video and headache gone. Love your persistence!
Wow, that's sure better than me giving you a headache. I am so thankful for your well being and comments.
So glad to see that your having fun flying this plane even though it looked very cold and windy. Many blessings to you and your wife. Shalom
Thanks a lot James.
Awesome bird, very happy for fixed the problem., like a kid..!!
I've always been a kid, even now at 72. I keeps me going. Thanks kindly!
Congrats! Great flight.
That JP hobbys fan is the ticket.
It sure was Josh. Thank you.
Great flying Mr. Dave..... glad to see your set up works FANTASTIC!!
Thanks much Kyle. I am too!
Sounds better than most EDF's. Great job
Thanks much. I agree. Here is my latest video on it, with better sound. ruclips.net/video/21zJoA8kmZo/видео.html
Congrats and well done Sir, great flying, great F16 and I think Don is an angel himself haha
Yes he is. Thanks very much, Jean. We appreciate your comments.
So watched your video many times. Thank you for the great info. Have the JP 120 fan installed in my Byron F20. I can’t find anything on setting the incidence of the flying stab. I plan to set it to the match the wing.
My F-16 has about 1/2 inch of up in it at neutral. It may be about the same, but you cant go wrong if you keep it aligned with the wing. Thanks for watching and I am sure you will really like the results of your work. Have you seen this one? ruclips.net/video/21zJoA8kmZo/видео.html
Glad you got it fixed.🛠
That thing is a Hoss!
Even the pilot gave it a thumbs up!
Haha. True. Thanks very kindly. I appreciate that.
This was a great video to watch. And the successful flights were awesome. Thanks for sharing!
And thank you for watching, Tim. We appreciate you and your comments.
Outstanding!!! I agree with Joe, it sounds like a real jet, very very cool. As usual, it looks great in the air with those Spit S rolls. So glad to see that it went well this time. I think I can speak for everyone that we all knew that you could do it! Special thanks to Don for making this great flight/video possible. That was VERY nice of him to send you that EDF. Nice flying as always sir, Semper Fi.
It was a gracious thing that Don did for sure. I am very appreciative and can now sleep nights. Thanks much Scott and Semper Fi!
8 years on, i'm still enjoying your videos. keep it up my friend. :)
Fantastic. I appreciate your long time subscription. Thank you very kindly!
awsome flight good to see all works well now .
Thanks a lot Kirk. I am happy to see that too.
Great video
Thanks so very kindly. Here is a later version, you may enjoy. ruclips.net/video/21zJoA8kmZo/видео.html
Fantastic flights!! Nothing but more flights to get that cost per fun ratio back down to where it should be. Look forward to see more flights in the spring!!
Thanks much. Yes, now the cost per flight goes down. I cant wait for spring too, and will able to fly with warm sunshine and I will be able to be more relaxed. Thanks again.
Dear sir, nice to greet you, I see that you have an original and beautiful Byron F-16, which flies great!
I am currently preparing one too, and I would like to know the extent of its CG?
Great. 40 inches from the tip of the nose, make sure you balance it upside down and with a good nose droop. It needs to be nose heavy a bit.
The jp fans are very nice, they sound good and stay very cool
I have found that out for sure. Here is a newer flight you might enjoy. ruclips.net/video/21zJoA8kmZo/видео.html
Byron was way ahead of the game with these ducted fan jets. Sure looks like technology has finally caught up!
Yes, for sure. Thanks kindly, Carlos.
Love it and Thank you for sharing your experience !
Thanks very much. Here is a newer video of it, so you can hear it better. ruclips.net/video/21zJoA8kmZo/видео.html
Looks and sounds great. Thanks for another inspiring video.
Thanks a lot Doug. I appreciate that.
Dave when I saw that JP set-up sitting there I knew you were going to have a great flight! I've seen two JP 120's fly a Skymaster F-18 very well,so one in a jet this size is perfect.I have been looking at this same set-up for my A-4 project,and either a JP or a Jetfan is what I like on 12s.Can't wait to see more of this as it flies great and sounds awesome!!
It sure worked better thank I thought. I am very happy Don E turned me on to this fan and sent it to me. It is a really sweet sounding and flying machine now. I have to wait till spring, but will sure look forward to flying it on a nice warm day. Thanks very much, Don!
thanks 4 ur generosity don
If you get the time, streamlining the inlet ducting could help significantly with your thrust and efficiency. Even a minor improvement in the inlet flow can have big results.
Awesome video, as usual. Thanks for taking us through the process!
I also recommend using the pulse cutoff method for your Castle ESC. It creates an audible noise in the fan that warns you you're low on power without cutting off your ability to use the throttle. I've always believed in sacrificing batteries over a plane. No sense in crashing an airframe when the batteries can suffer instead.
True but the batteries and wires are all in the way. (See intake picture at 8:22) I also have to remove those batteries to charge them. I think it did pretty good even as it is. This F-16 intake is quite small and the original nitro version had that big tuned exhaust pipe in there. It would be quite difficult and why Byron put the big cheater hole in the bottom of the fuse. It gets all the air it it needs. A few miles an hour more isn’t gonna matter to me, even if it did help. Thanks.
Ps. I thought about the pulsing but wasn’t sure I’d hear it. The soft slow down is the default setting but I really relied on the transmitter telling me when to land. The soft stop won’t ruin the batteries as Jason at castle told me. It would still shut completely down at 3.2 volts. I again appreciate your comments and suggestions. Thanks.
@@NightFlyyer
Listen to the cell count when the ESC initializes.
Its setting the LVC incorrectly as a result of your spark reduction.
DO NOT GO BY THE LVC.
@@fhuber7507 Never in years ever had a problem. This is an accepted method by many electric fliers with high voltage setups. The CC esc compensates. Resistor or not, the voltage is the same.
@@NightFlyyer I agree, it did great and there's no need to change anything unless you want a few more M's per H 😉
Definitely the right setup now, great sound and she's fast. 😎👍
Finally! I am very happy about it and now can sleep at night! Thanks much.
Wow that's too cool! Great team effort,sweet ride sir!
Thanks very much Jon!
Yyeeaahh! 🙂 So much better, and it sounds awesome too!
That's quite the spark, and the spark arrestor is pretty cool. 👍
Snow next week?? We'll be hitting the upper 90s early next week and then dropping into the 80s toward the end of the week here in Arizona.
Thanks a Lot Tim, Yeah, weather starts to get iffy around here in October. Its only supposed to be an inch on Thursday, but I couldn't take any chances and had to try it before then.....otherwise wait all winter and that is a long time. Sorry to hear its so hot there. LOL. Thanks again.
@@NightFlyyer If you ever need to melt any snow, let me know and I'll bottle up some heat and send it to you. lol
@@AKATEATime Haha. I'll keep that in mind....be ready!
Great job on the flight on the new fan unit , sounds great and must be nice to be able to do a complete flight with it
Thanks very much. Your sure right about finally getting a full flight. I was very happy to get 2 so far. 😃
Hi Dave,
Really nice aircraft! I've always been an F-16 fan and wanted a fiberglass version. I have drueled over the old Tamjets but by the time I got into it, Tam stopped making them. Just recently picked up the HSD 105mm F-16 and as you probably know is a foamie. I looked at the JPs for upgrade but ended up with the JetFan 110 and converting to 14S.
Supposed to get 21lbs of jet like whoosh.
Thanks for the ride and the look at my dream fiberglass F-16. Looking forward to see what you come up with next.
Thanks and good luck with your F-16. It will really crank. I also have a video on the build, plus this one that has no music background, so you can hear it better. Happy flying. ruclips.net/video/21zJoA8kmZo/видео.html
I had the Byron Hellcat, absolutely amazing.
Very cool!
I have the same plane I just got along with a Byron bd5j and a Byron Saber. All still in boxes. Are you still liking the setup? Looks and sounds great and a lot of speed. Also can you give me a link on the camera system on the plane you use? Thanks
I love this setup. Easy to start, flies and sounds great. Here is a link to a newer video of it. ruclips.net/video/21zJoA8kmZo/видео.html The camera is a Firefly Q6. Just google it. You will find them on Walmart and ebay as well. Thanks and happy flying..
i have been looking at those fans for my Hayoe Bae hawk for a while now i may just give it a go now :) great video Dave many thanks
As I, you won't be disappointed with this JP fan. I certainly was happily surprised. I recommend it highly. Thanks much.
@@NightFlyyerMany thanks Dave for your advice i appreciate it
What a great sound and i am happy for you that it all worked out so good. I have several Castle ESC and also the Edge 160A with fan - that goes in my large scale Robinson R22 helicopter. I have always loved the Castle software. It seem to me that your F-16 is sitting a little low on the back end when on the ground.Thanks for this great video - awesome!
Yes they make good equipment for sure. There was not landing gear in this Kit so I made them myself. I might have made the nose gear a bit too long, which I could lower, I guess, but you know......if it aint broke, why fix it. It has survived 3 hard deadstick landings, so I am happy. That R22 is a great helicopter. Happy flying and thank you.
Congrats Dave. I will try to make it to the rink tomorrow after work.
Thanks very much. I will look forward to seeing and skating with you.
Small wonder 99.9% of jets sold today are all BNF foamy kits. Everything already installed and tested, just charge a lipo and you're flying in under an hour. But I have to say this project is in a separate class requiring so many other skills, too bad you got hung up on some of the equipment and faulty technical specs, but great job as always Dave! It was worth it in the end.
Those are very kind words and I appreciate your insight. It's always a learning curve, and I learned a lot on this project. Thanks again!
SPECTACULAR!!!!! When I was 9 or 10 I built a 1/48 scale F-16 in that color scheme. It hung off my ceiling in a prominent location till I went to collage. It’s very special to me and seeing yours fly brings back good memories. I’m glad you got this sorted!!! Do you think that setup could handle retracts? Or would the weight be too high? Thanks for sharing this with us.
Thanks a lot John. A great story for sure. I appreciate about the retracts but with all the dead sticks I’ve had and hard landings this has had they would have been ruined at least twice. I’ve had lots of retracts in my jets and planes in the past including all the ones I flew in Blue Thunder. Always a problem and you always have to make a flyby to make sure they are down. Sometimes there isn’t enough time, you know. I appreciate the thought. Thanks.
Does anyone else think A Christmas Story while he's narrating? Lol!!
And she's looking like a lot of fun to fly. She's hauling the mail and in a hurry! If you get the chance, you should try to get a speed check on her. Be really interesting to see how fast she's moving.
I hope that is a good thing. My radar detector was burned up in the fire, and I haven't decided to spend another $395 to get another, as It is not all that important, because it hauls for sure. It would be interesting to find out. I may have a cop with a radar detector check it next year when the weather is not so bad. Thanks.
Fantastic, a fan sent you an electric ducted fan to use on your fantastic f16 model
Yes, or I would still not be sleeping nights, as I was beginning to get worried, but thanks to Don D'Egidio, who was the fan who sent the fan, all is well. Thanks very kindly!
Now that motor might produce a positive result. Thumbs up Dave!!!
As you saw, it really did. Thanks.
@@NightFlyyer , I'm so glad..... I do post as I am watching the video....just because I'm goofy like that. How do you feel about the speed and acceleration power from the new motor?
It really was an improvement for sure. I love it. Thanks again.
what a sweet EDF awesome Dave!
Thanks ver kindly. I appreciate that.
Nice, now you are cooking with gas !!! It flies awesomely well... What I learnt from this is never to trust and go on the listed info specs from online stores and to rather visit the manufacturers website first to confirm them on an item before buying.
Yes, I learned the same thing. Good thing I called Castle and Amain. Also Don D'Egideo did a lot of research on this JP fan, so I was really getting my hopes up, especially when he thought it would work so well, he sent it to me! That was a great gesture of which I am thankful. Thanks a lot Ted!
WHOA! Now your kicking some ass in with that Byron F-16 now btw Dave was all those 2 test flights on 12s,8s or 6s??
I stuck with the 12 s, that I always wanted in the beginning, but this EDF actually was designed for them and worked. I am very happy about that. Thanks much!
Congratulations!
Thanks much.
Will you add scale landing gear and retracts to it? Something like HSD's 105mm F16's landing gear seems like it would fit well on this bird. I have one and it's only a bit smaller than your Byron.
For soldering those huge bullet connectors I use a small butane torch that is sold in smoke shops for around $5. Refills are only $2 a bottle. Heat up the bullet with the torch till the solder melts fast and I fill the connector half way with solder and put some flux on the wires and put the cable into the bullet connector while the torch is keeping the connector and solder inside hot. I keep the heat on long enough for the wires to get hot and draw the solder into the wires for a strong joint.
That's a good way to do it too. Luckily I have a WEN Quick Hot Soldering gun that really gets hot and easily can do the job, with no flame. Good tip. Thanks Keith.
CONGRATULATIONS!!!! That was great!! Are you going to list parts and prices? Thank you
Thanks much. Links are in the description box.
Looking good.
And sounds good too.lol
Thanks very much.
great job mr herbert
Thank you very much!
10:06 what is this sound!!! Looks like you put a jet fuel engine there 😀😀😀
So glad you solve the problem. Amazing plane , sound and flight.
I agree. Totally fantastic sound for sure. Thanks very kindly. It was Don who solved the problem for me. Thanks again.
3.53V per cell under no load is definitilly very low :D, Glad you finally made this piece of history fully fly capable
The safe cutoff of LiPos are 3.2 volts, the accepted standard. If you go below 3.0, LiPos are history.
@@NightFlyyer I try to get my Lipos to not get bellow 3.7V resting (unplugged).. thats about 15% left..found out batteries last longer before puffing if leaving that final 15% untouched.. of course battery quality has a big say in that.. some LiPos dont care much running down bellow that.. others puff fast once crossing that line
I also like your spark arrestor as that is always a good thing to have a "soft starter" when connecting, as a sudden discharge like that (many many spike amps!) is never a good thing for any electronics!
So true. I hate just hearing it, let alone all the brown powder that is deposited on contacts. Thanks Ted.
@@NightFlyyer
The spark reduction resistor can fool the ESC into thinking you have lower cell count, setting the LVC incorrectly.
Use with caution.
I heard that ESC count 5 cells....
@@fhuber7507 Well that is not so. I have used this procedure for years (along with many others) and as soon as you plug in the main power line, it works fine, as you saw.
Thanks for the video, great journey. Can I suggest you look at the AS150 connectors? They are capable of 150A and have built in spark arresters. :)
@@MrMAPECU . I like to make a lot of my own stuff, you know, especially when I was in a hurry to beat the weather. Years ago, when I started making my own spark arrestors, the AS150's weren't around, but will keep that in mind, if I should need more. Thanks.
Looks fun!
It is for sure. Thanks very much.
Yep, simply amazing Dave, and glad to hear Don D'Edigio sent you the JP Hobby fan..! The Spark Arrestor and Castle Creations ESC completed the package in your Byron F-16. PS: Good to see Ilea filming with her steady cam. Oorah!!!
Thanks a lot Bud. It worked better than I thought it would. Oorah and Semper Fi!
The sound alone is worth a big thumb up! Love it 👍🏻~John
Yea that sound will put a smile on your face for sure
Thanks a lot John. I appreciate that.
Great project, that plane need afterburner lights now
Haha. For sure. Now that I know it finally works, I might do that. Thanks a lot.
DID YOU ALSO burn the 650KV 5075 motor ?
If that was the one in the Changsun. I forget. I burned every motor, except the JP fan. It cannot handle the 60 amps from the two 22.2 batteries or 44.4 volts. Motors get hot anyway, but that one in the Changsun just couldn't handle that voltage. If you must use that motor, switch batteries to 2, 18.4 batteries in series and it will probably work. Just needs a longer runway for take off, but will fly, if your Byron F-16 was built light and no retracts.
wow that scared me building my first edf :D
Hope your over it.
Gezien top filmpje!
That is cool
Thanks David.
Mate we needa race with my 2018 HSD F16 with Jetfan 110 Hacker 780 :)))
Bring it on! LOL.
Great video! I disable voltage cut off on all my EDF's. I'd much rather kill a lipo then kill the plane!
ThaeCastle esc,s have the soft cutoff mode posibility, it will keep the RX and servo,s alive and save your plane. just my 50cents
@@marinjeam Yep but I've seen planes not make it back to the runway due to lipo cut off in soft cut mode!
PROOF OF CONCEPT SUCCESSFUL.. Time to replace JET ENGINE WITH EDF in real thing - the F16 itself...lol
Haha. That would be fun.
At 3.53V, way below the recommended 20% at 3.64. At 3.53 is less than 10%, one minute on a edf 65is a lon.
It even sounded a bit like a turbine. :))
Yes, the sound was Awesome to me. Thanks much!
The BVM EVF should drop in. (very expensive...)
There are others in between the price of the Changesun and the BVM.
The correct fan should fly it better than the original .91 glow fan.
The BVM EVF is based on the old glow version that was recommended for the airplane and gives more power. Appx 10,000 more RPM with the same impeller mold (upgraded casting using better materials)
Very nice landing with the blip of throttle to aid in the flair.
@@fhuber7507 Thanks. Yes, I know Bob Violet and also Larry Wolfe of Jet Hanger Hobbies. They both make great fans, but in the beginning I just went with the Changesun, due to price as you say. I didn't see too many other 120mm fans, but of course this JP hobbies Fan worked just fine, as you saw, so I am happy, especially since it was sent to me by a Don D'Egidio for no cost. Thanks for the comments.
Yes, as you may have seen in my earlier F-16 videos, I have the original fan and the Nitro engine. I ran it in another video for those who never saw a nitro Ducted fan run. It is what I flew in the movie Blue Thunder and it was great on the .91 Rossi. Thought about putting an electric motor on it, but was not wanting to modify the original Byrojet fan, so passed. Thanks.
Will someone please send Dave a set of gas charged retracts for that sweet bird?
I appreciate that but with all the dead sticks I’ve had and hard landings this has had they would have been ruined at least twice. I’ve had lots of retracts in my jets and planes in the past including all the ones I flew in Blue Thunder. Always a problem and you always have to make a flyby to make sure they are down. Sometimes there isn’t enough time, you know. I appreciate the comment though. Thanks.
I got the blitzworks F-16...fast...
Yes. That’s a nice machine and all stock compared to this rare Byron which was originally designed over 40 years ago for nitro. Happy flying.
Your failures were a result of little or no research on your part. These days there are dozens of fans and scores of motors that can produce good results in a light sport scale jet like the Byron. You just need to do your homework before you waste time and money on junk. The comment you made that you were ready to put the original ICDF unit back in just speaks to the level of your lack of knowledge about modern EDF technology. Your series probably did more harm than good if it was your intention to spread knowledge about the hobby. No hate, just fact.
I did plenty of research and for you to blatantly say I didn't is pretty unfair. Not many folks tried to convert a rare Byron F-16 to electric, but at least I tried at age 73 and from the old school right after my house and the original Byron Jet burned to the ground. I flew these Byron jets in the Movie Blue Thunder when we had nitro engines. You probably would not know how to even start one of them inside this jet, since your all electric. I spoke with Venom Batteries, the ESC manufacturers and many about this and learned all along. Unfortunately, the fan manufacture I used in the beginning had the wrong specs on his website when I bought the Changsun fan. That was not my fault. I finally succeeded, however. It is sure easy to put someone down after the fact. But what I learned, others can learn from too. Here is the latest flight if your interested.. ruclips.net/video/21zJoA8kmZo/видео.html
I'm sorry that your house burned down. If you want to find out what's really going on in the EDF world, go to RC Groups and find the EDF sections, there are 4 large sections. Read and learn. It will save you a lot of time, money and probably some airplanes too.
Here's an example of how to "do it yourself" a powerful edf system. This is what was available over 10 years ago. If you don't have knowledge of the basics, you'll burn up equipment and waste money.
@@leeliddle7021 I guess you think Stupid is written on my forehead. I am quite aware, more than you think. Having been inducted into the Academy of Model aeronautics Hall of Fame for my contributions to the Modeling community, including Inventing Half rates and exponential control when I worked as an Engineer For Kraft radio control systems (the company that invented Digital control RC), Importing and distributing the first Electric helicopter, inventing the first Electric tail rotor motors for helicopters and inventing the first tailrotorless helicopter for Kyosho, plus teaching the local science class for the last 15 years the theory of flight including helicopters, for you to say I am misguiding the RC community is ludicrous. Had you done research on me you would see I have videos to prove all I say, including checking out the previous F-16 videos, where you would see I did extensive research on trying to find a 5.5 inch fan for this model. I spoke directly to all manufacturers including folks at Venom batteries, the folks at Castle Creations' escs, and the fan manufacturer. They all said my combo should work. In fact Changsun sent me a second fan free after the first one failed. But it turns out the specs on their fan were wrong. It could not handle the amps and voltage, even though their specs stated it could. There were not many options 5 years ago for 5.5 inch fans that could handle it. I also spoke directly with one of the few that did including Bob Violet who recently died, but the price was too high for me to spend, since I had to buy cars, clothes, and a house after the fire. So I am surprised you can be so critical when I at least have the balls to show my failures and my successes, so others may learn. Thanks for your comments.
@@leeliddle7021 You just don't get it. This was a one time deal to find a 5.5 inch fan to try to put on a very rare expensive airplane that originally was powered by Nitro Ducted fans. I have no intention to do it again.
I'm no EDF except but I can pretty much guarantee you that your problem is using cheap ass eBay Chinese EDF system. There is NO WAY IN HELL I would ever considered using a eBay Chinese EDF system in anything other than a diy Foam-board jet especially NOT a Bryon Originals F-16 that can not be replaced. SPEND THE MONEY and get a Jetfan 120mm or a Schubeler 120mm or a Violett EVF EDF and a good HET or Hacker Motor. Any of these EDF systems are proven technology and you should have to problem getting 17-22 pounds of thrust from them.
Yes, Hindsight is always 2020. If you watched the video, you must know I already replaced the fan with one that had proper specs and actually worked perfectly. My video shows others my experience and that is what they can learn from.
15c battery are you crazy?? Edf’s take a TON of amperage!! And only a150a esc are you crazy??
Edf’s take a TON of amperage!!
Sorry but someone is a newby edf pilot!
Well they worked fine the first flight and if the fan had the right specs nothing would have gone wrong. I am definitely not a newby and have had many many Edfs. If you look back at my channel you would know that. My first EDF was a Kyosho T-33 back in 1998 with an AP29 brushed motor and Nicad batteries. And BTW, if you had watched this whole video to the end, you would see I used a 160 amp ESC (not 150 as you say) which is well within the specs of this fan, along with 50 and 60c batteries, not 15c. I see not 1 single edf video on your channel nor any trex helicopter videos, which I also fly 3D with, so if anybody is an EDF newby, it's you. LOL.
Who the hell is this guy, Adam Schiff??