LEGO The Hobbit: Azog's Battle Plan
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- POTENTIAL SPOILERS: I haven't seen the movie yet, I'm just guessing based on my knowledge of the book. So it's not a REAL spoiler....but my theories are probably right ;)
When it comes to military tactics, Azog prefers the simple approach...KILL EVERYONE NOW!!!! This time it doesn't work out for him.
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"should have waited man,
should have waited!"
this cracked me up so bad
Wa attack at DUSK!!!!!!!!!
@@vernalequinox1364 lemme rephrase that for you
@@cookiesrgood1802 we attack at dusk
@@vernalequinox1364 You wanna sit this one out?
Me too! lol
So some goblins and orcs actually aren't that stupid. Makes you wonder how Azog ever became a commander.
Tanks!
He iz da biggest and da strongest, of course.
Hiperforteca yes cuz he go him a whaaaaaa!!!!!!!! :D
+Hyper Come on Boyz ! it iz time for zi WAAAAAAGH!!!
If you pay attention, most goblins and orcs really aren't that stupid - just incompetent fighters (depending on their leader).
These Lego Hobbit figures are all designed so well! Who agrees?
Definitely! Only thing is Dain's done a bit lazily (Rehash beard on a guy with a distinct one, and reuse of Gloin's head) But he's still mega-awesome!
That is true, but Lego had 13 dwaves to design, so I don't really mind if one or two ar'nt amazing.
They are amazing
@@TheLetterbomber they reuse Dwalin's beard and change the colour, not Gloin's
@@philipmartin3411 (wow old comment) that's true he does have Dwalin's beard, but the Dain figure *also* reuses the same head print that's done for Gloin. Both the beard and head are reused.
Yeah, orcs are really smart, the only problem is their boss ;)
Your right except for the fact that they are goblins. Not orcs. Goblins are in the Hobbit book, while Lord of the Rings has orcs
Orcs are oversized goblins
Hmmm, I guess you're right. When I read the book, I imagined them to be small
Maybe I'm just imagining things
In the movies, there is only Orcs
Goblins: "How about this tactic?"
Azog: "Look, Hollywood said I could get the lead role if we attack at dawn. So we attack at dawn!"
Goblins: "...You serious?'
"Shouda waited man"
Too epic hahahha!!!
The jumping Orc at 1:04 Looks very like a Gentleman!
That's hilarious. I love listening to the Orcs talk.
Its ironic cause Azog's battleplan in the movie is flawless, clever and strategic. If it weren't for some unforeseen factors he would've been almost guaranteed victory. Your right though, in the book it plays out like this, without Azog and with no military coordination whatsoever. Funny vid though. :)
legofreak86 But it played out the same in the movie, he was observing the armies nearly clashing, but than signaled and started the attack before the 2 armies obliterated themselves.
This was still a little less worse than the dragon scene in which the dragon somehow doesn´t really want to light the tower with the idiot and son on fire while burning down everything else..just not the most obvious and big building with a guy and giant spear on it...yah sure^^
Than to make it even worse the next super obvious plot armor going on when he prepares to fire the arrow for 10 minutes with the dragon in front of him...I so fucking hate plot armor like that^^ :p
Yeah but that would never have worked, there weren't nearly enough dwarves to stand against the elves and men, the elves would have come out on top and there would just a be one less army to worry about. I was talking in regards to his battle coordination in the actual battle, not the buildup. He engaged the main force, but then sent a huge contingency to attack the poorly defended dale, knowing that the eleves and men would defend it and leave the dwarves to defend erebor alone, therefore whilst the elves and men were occupied and outnumbered in the city, the dwarves would be utterly spread thin and outnumbered on the battlefield, meaning Azog gets to his goal, the mountain and can therefore take that killing his greatest enemy and securing that position, then bolg's forces would arrive and the combined forces would raze dale to the ground and kill everyone left, orcs would then win. Azog didn't count on thorin uniting the disorganised forces under one banner but still made it work to his advantage by luring thorin to ravenhill and trapping him and the main dwarves there in an inescapable ambush and then bolg's forces would join the battle, cut off thorin's escape and then join the main force and kill everyone else. If it hadn't been for the eagles then Azog would've won either way. I was a flawless battle plan. As for smaug he was angry and boastful, he didn't see the people of lake town as a threat, they are helpless and beneath him, he was mocking at the idea of someone challenging him, so he wanted to play with bard as he fired his pathetic arrows at him, he did not expect bard to even be able to use the black arrow as the windlance which is usually the only thing that can fire a black arrow in film continuity was destroyed during his first pass of the city along with the town hall, he saw it more of an annoyance and he soon headed for bard once he had aimed it, the sequence is in slow motion so smaug was actually going quite a bit faster before he got hit. Smaug was cocky and egotistical and so sure of his victory, this fits smaug's persona but it is also his main weakness, bard used that to his advantage simple as, no plot armour at all, smaug just didn't want to kill him straight away, he wanted to mock him a bit and play with him showhim how futile he was and then kill him for daring to challenge him, make an example out of this so called hero.
legofreak86 Oh please, the talkative cocky villain that does crap until the hero can turn the table is very much a plot armor...a pretty overused one. And that the hero prepared the weapon that can hurt him in sight made it even worse.
That was like Bond taking his gun which is in pieces out in front of Goldfinger and assembling it, while Goldfinger is being all: "Blahblahblah, I will kill you now Mr. Bond. Are you really assembling that gun? Mr. Bond are you even listening? Shouldn't I kill you already? Wait, the script says no. Blahblahblah"...gets shot. No plot armor indeed^^ :p
Also good that you mention the eagles, they were not just "bad luck" for the orcs plan, they were typical deus ex machina of arriving "superweapon" in the last second, so another plot armor on top of the plot armor...for double plot armor protection. =)
***** The book is exactly the same... blame Tolkien for using them as deus ex machine for every problem that can't be solved by Gandalf.
In the book the supreme commander was of course Bolg of the North, son of Azog, and he seemed quite competent both as individual warrior and captain. In general the Orcs/Goblins showed remarkable level of sophistication and organization in both preparation and the battle itself. In truth though they could not know of or use the strife between the Dwarves, Elves and Men to their advantage because their troops hoping to use of the element of surprise (which largely they did achieve and it was in their favour) arrived precisely at the moment when the amassed armies were almost at each other's throats and Gandalf used the shock of arrival of new force (from the North which also aided to their secrecy of approach), to held a truce and hastily summon a council between the leaders. Dain, Elvenking and Bard made a quick and improvised plan of action but they had very little time before the assault started. The Orc intelligence was mentioned but the situation was changing rapidly :).
"Ever since the fall of the Great Goblin of the Misty Mountains the
hatred of their race for the dwarves had been rekindled to fury.
Messengers had passed to and fro between all their cities, colonies and
strongholds; for they resolved now to win the dominion of the North.
Tidings they had gathered in secret ways; and in all the mountains there
was a forging and an arming. Then they marched and gathered by hill and
valley, going ever by tunnel or under dark, until around and beneath
the great mountain Gundabad of the North, where was their capital, a
vast host was assembled ready to sweep down in time of storm unawares
upon the South. Then they learned of the death of Smaug, and joy was in
their hearts : and they hastened night after night through the mountains, and came thus at last on a sudden from the North hard on the heels of Dain. Not even the ravens knew of their coming until they came out in the broken lands which divided the Lonely Mountain from the hills behind. How much Gandalf knew cannot be said, but it is plain that he had not expected this sudden assault."
The prelude was like this, Dwarves of Dain arrived and were moving round the eastern spur of the Mountain, the allied forces of Lake-men (their remaining military/militia and volunteers, since most of civilian refugees, women and children and elderly remained in makeshift camp made thanks to Thranduil's help on green shore of the Lake) and Wood Elves were preparing to deal with them (after the usual meeting of envoys :)):
"Suddenly without a signal they sprang silently forward to attack.
Bows twanged and arrows whistled; battle was about to be joined. Still
more suddenly a darkness came on with dreadful swiftness! A black cloud
hurried over the sky. Winter thunder on a wild wind rolled roaring up
and rumbled in the Mountain, and lightning lit its peak. And beneath the
thunder another blackness could be seen whirling forward; but it did
not come with the wind, it came from the North, like a vast cloud of
birds, so dense that no light could be seen between their wings.
“Halt!” cried Gandalf, who appeared suddenly, and stood alone, with
arms uplifted, between the advancing dwarves and the ranks awaiting
them. “Halt!” he called in a voice like thunder, and his staff blazed
forth with a flash like the lightning. “Dread has come upon you all!
Alas! it has come more swiftly than I guessed. The Goblins are upon you!
Bolg of the North is coming. O Dain! whose father you slew in Moria.
Behold! the bats are above his army like a sea of locusts. They ride
upon wolves and Wargs are in their train!” Amazement and confusion fell
upon them all. Even as Gandalf had been speaking the darkness grew. The
dwarves halted and gazed at the sky. The elves cried out with many
voices.
“Come!” called Gandalf. “There is yet time for council."
As for the Eagles well they are not miraculous solution to every problem even though it may seem sometimes like that, the Great Eagles that joined the Battle of Five Armies were for long observing the movements of the Orcs, their troops amassing (though even they could not follow them all the time, since Orcs also transported their forces through underground tunnels). The gathering of Eagles also took some time before they were able to sweep down, their arrival was what tipped the scale but I'm certain it's only because the opportune moment of their arrival not to mention that they were able to drive off the force of Orcs that scaled the Mountain slopes (Goblins wisely divided their troops to attack the defenders from both sides, unlike in the movie, the Elves, Dwarves and Men were closely cooperatin and were focused on keeping to the high ground on both spurs of the mountain sides to pin the arriving forces (that still outnumbered the defenders greatly) from two directions.
So it's far more complex than people imagine hehe. The orc army was able to surround take the defenders from two sides, also in the center they kept their elite troops, including the bodyguards of Bolg, great warriors themselves (Bolg and his personal guard were responsible for death of Thorin which means they were tough enemies).
"Day drew on. The goblins gathered again in the valley. There a host of
Wargs came ravening and with them came the bodyguard of Bolg, goblins of huge size with scimitars of steel."
"His flanks were unguarded. Soon the attackers were attacked, and they
were forced into a great ring, facing every way, hemmed all about with
goblins and wolves returning to the assault. The bodyguard of Bolg came
howling against them, and drove in upon their ranks like waves upon
cliffs of sand. Their friends could not help them, for the assault from
the Mountain was renewed with redoubled force, and upon either side men
and elves were being slowly beaten down."
The rate you put your videos out is incredible and it's not like you cut corners or scrimp on sets, animation or effects everything is top notch, my hats off to you sir!
You’re are amazing BotherhoodWorkshop, you’ve always been a role model to me. All of your animations are outstanding, you have fantastic voice acting and they are always funny. Keep up all the terrific work!!
1:19. Gimli is dead and it doesn't even make sense!!!!!
Joel Baumgarten It’s really a random Dwarf. They just put him there as an extra. It’s really because of his helmet, right?
I saw that too!
I watched the hobbit, this is accurate actually xD
The last seconds were EPIC! :)
U R AWSOME 2!
Bilbo, "What happened?"
Dwarf, "We, won." *falls over dead*
XD
Although Azog might've wanted to delay the Attack, he just couldn't. He could not possibly signal his underground army from Ravenhill in like a few hours. Plus, originally (b4 the orcs went underground) he thought they were teaming up against him anyway.
oh its just a bit of fun calm down
Amazing! When will you release the lighting tutorial? And how do you deal with dust on your sets?
Probably mid way through January. I was gonna post it this month, but decided to make Hobbit vids instead.
I don't really have an issue with dust.
BrotherhoodWorkshop hey, if you could answer that would be great!, In your latest HISHE video with the sand people, why did you use yellow mini=figs?
lego banana nerd Cause I didn't have the newer versions :) simple as that.
***** I love your stop motion videos!!!!
who dozent?!
Kind of accurate to the movie so good guessing. Although agog didn't actually fight in the main battle, he just fought four of the dwarfs that went up to ravenhill. I haven't finished the book yet (don't have a copy, so I borrowed it a few years ago but had to turn it in before I finished it) but I probably would of guessed the same thing. Great videos, I love your animations.
I know this comment can go to second grade now, but I really wanna say it. Wait was dead before the hobbit took place. He was killed in moria by dain after thror was killed.
Azog* not wait. I hate autocorrect
The dialogue's brilliant 😂😂😂 I love these.
Awesome! How come there's like four Gimlis?
They just have his armor. They have different beards and faces.
BrotherhoodWorkshop Oh. Hey how long did it take you to make this?
Luke Warm Studios 30ish hours.
BrotherhoodWorkshop where do you get these amazing ideas from???
I love them so much
The orcs are so cute in what they do!:-D
BrotherhoodWorkshop wow!
im kinda new to stopmotion making so id love another toutorial. so far your other viddeos have helped me as well. keep up the good work
I love how Gandalf is like everyone’s parent in this😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Yeah actually i never realized how dumb azog's plan was... Then again, its kinda hard to disguise an orc and send him as a spy
Great work once again! Nice snowfall effects btw
I love this animation! Well done BrotherhoodWorkshop you guys have once again upped the lego animation!
Azog's not only cruel, he's stubborn as well
your theories ARE correct. I love this video, it is probably my favorite
Can you guys make like all the battle scenes from Battle of Five Armies? You guys are amazing.
Cool animation, good idea and nice work.
So witty and funny! My love for this channel is growing as each new video comes out XD
Amazing Video as Always! You are such an inspiration to me!
That was great! Nicely done.
This is FANTASTIC!!
Great video! Stop animation is difficult to master, and you guys do a great job at it. Plus picking Middle-Earth as your subject is a total home run! I'll definitely be checking out the rest of your stuff that I haven't seen yet. :)
It came out in the UK on Friday...I watched it at the cinema, yeah that was pretty much what happened but on a larger scale as the orcs had two massive armies, not just one.
Wow! That was AMAZING! Thank you for being one of the biggest inspirations in my life! You certainly have a bright future!
Im in awe on how you did this!
This is frickin awesome man! I love all your videos! :) MORE PLEASE!:)
Sweet! Can't wait until it comes out.
Who's here willing to bet that this actually happened in the film; two orcs saw the stars alline and Azog didn't. That'd be funny if so. =)P
So, what kind of clay do you use to make your ground work? I’ve wanted to try your technique out, but I don’t know what you use.
Love these vids, always looking forward to your films.
Best Commercial for the movie Yet!
I wish he listened to the battle plan lol great stop motion brotherhood workshop
Those orcs are smarter than Azog
You’d think that was a hishe. Don’t get me wrong here. This was hilarious 😆
Lol Orcs sound like Queen Mab from 1998 Merlin miniseries
Man your videos are getting so good
Loved the vid! Quick question, how did you make the snow on the rocks so realistic? Whipped cream? Nail polish? A reply would be amazing!
Just some Van Aken Clay.
Great job, loved it
But if Azog had waited instead of striking at dusk, there's a good chance someone else would've killed Thorin, so there would be no point. The orcs aren't there to take Erebor, they are only there because Azog wants revenge.
Awesome! Do you put any video effects like colour filters or anything into your animations or is it all done in camera?
How do you know how to speak orc for Azog while the other orcs speak clear English?
ive tried making stop motion video's so many times but after i made no progress in my eyes i stopped... your video's and especially your verry first animations video really inspired me to pick up lego stop motion animation again... (btw i found you becurs off HISHE and am so glad i did)
That's what was going through my head when I watched the movie, if the orcs had of held off the attack till say dusk there would of probably been a a victor of the Dwarf/Elf battle and they would of been weakened plus they would have the cover of darkness advantage as orca have decent night vision.
"Shoulda waited man. Shoulda waited."
If only Dysentery could make movies as awesome as this :)
Everyone was laughing so hard, 71 people missed the like button
This is hilarious!!! Amazing job!!
this is a hobbit videom we know....but your creativity is the best in the world!! congratulations
Hey, brotherhood Workshop. Question: do you think you will ever do a video together with Forrestfire101?
Btw, looks like you are gonna compete against Forrest in round 2 of Battle of the Brick Flicks.
Like Capt. Ahab, Azog allowed obsession to cloud his judgement.
Film was awesome. My 2nd fave out of the six after the fellowship of the ring
Great mouth movements!
Should have waited man.... should have waited....
worms couldnot stop digging up, its pretty difficult recieving orders from underground, earthquakes, and miles away, without walkie-talkie, plus Azog didnt know about dwarf army... send orcs back plus kilometers of tunnels and stop those worms... K.O. xD (look momy ive killed lots of trolls at youDale) by the way the video was funny.
1:13 Gimli? Is that you?
0:46 nobody heard that?
Yeah 😅 it sound like he’s saying “does knock down core”
Man I like very much your videos!
You're awesome!
To be fair, Azog probably did the tactically sound thing by attacking at dusk.
After all, whoever won the battle between the Elves and the Dwarves would have won the Mountain - and lord knows tearing that thing open with either an army of Dwarves or Elves inside would be insane. I think Azog just intended to steamroll through both of them and hit Erebor directly, but Idk. He also sent a large contingent of his army to attack civilians in Old Laketown for reasons that aren't readily apparent. :/
Dale, and because orcs are douchebags who delight in suffering and death and love to have slaves.
It’s because he’s evil.
@@chadpeterson5698 Well put.
Great vid as always
This is one of your best!
You should do another epic battles episode with shelob vs tree beard.
This is so great! You make the best videos!!! :)
Will you do a big battle of five army's stop motion ??
Maybe. I really want to, but I'm not sure if my schedule will allow it. Currently I already have 3 unfinished videos in the works, 4 more that are finished but not posted, a 2 week vacation in January, and 2 commissioned jobs from LEGO that will keep me booked up through the Summer when I get back.
Whew! I'm swamped! But be excited for the LEGO gigs ;) They aren't hobbit, but they are very cool.
Really looking forward to those videos! This was great ^^
BW, you are pretty good! Your stop motions are great, but forrestfire101 is better at stop motions. No offence, just my opinion. Once again, great work ;)
Yeah, the quality of Forrest's videos is better. His videos are more enjoyable and they focus more on humor and action.
Sorry, BW. You are a great animator, but Forrestfire101 will always be superior to everyone.
Really? I think they are both equaly good
I kinda have to agree. Hope Forrest wins Battle of the Brick flicks!
Then go watch his videos.
How do you make the orc voices? It sounds so cool :D
also the premiere was today not 17th, where did you get that from? (00:03 for me)
It comes out on the 17th in America.
oh, thx
Yeah, I know there were a bunch of different premiere dates, so I just went off the one on IMDB
In Norway, the new hobbit movie came out 10.desember i saw the movie yesterday.
Thats the best video you've ever did!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice job, I liked the orc talking :)
I really like the end when azog died and the orcks are werry funny
When changing focus mid-shot do you change the focus, take a picture, change the focus more, take another picture, ect. or do you refocus in one go?
I remember this as a kid this was soo funny.
I just came back from watching the movie (I'm from Mexico,we got it before some places), it's really great, and for me is the best of the Hobbit trilogy
Yes, I was thinking the same thing as I watched the movie (and rolling my eyes)
This makes my day everytime...
Can you do some lego back to the future? I saw that you have the lego car in a behindescenes video.
nice job making the elk
We need to name the 2 smart orcs.
Great video. Very funny stuff! :)
New sub here! You have great material so far, keep it up. :)
you should make the clip where thorin fights azorg. your vidios are great!
Another great vid keep it up.
How him had Dain minifigure,because the video was posted in 2014 and the film was made in 2015...
Your videos is awesome! can you make barrel Escape in lego?
Awesome video (again!) :D Do you have a suggestion where to buy good green/bluescreens?
I am so glad we get the film tomorrow :)
1:12 How did Dylan get his hands on an Uruk-Hai blade?
He has a night job working in the Isengard forges.
+BrotherhoodWorkshop Ah I remember this when this came out So Cool. I See Two Future Goblin Leaders if Of Course They Didn't Get Killed Though. Sorry for the Very late entry / reply. Just EPIC Man. Hope You Make More of These Soon. Awesome Video and Keep Up the Great work ;-)
What do you like the most about animating
00:13. Gandalf: Stop it!