What a brave wonderful woman and the story that got her here. If you have an issue, go get educated. Courageous and smart! And a really liberating way to look at addiction I think.
I was 14 when I first experienced opiate withdrawal but it was like a roller coaster.. The ups and downs were both still exciting.. didn't really admit it was a huge problem for about 10 years.. took me another 10 years to get sober.. most of my critical years of development were spent in the fog of addiction, now it's hard wired in my brain.. re-training my brain has only been possible because of a deeper understanding of the psychology of addiction, once I understood the problem I was able to work on the solution.. thank you so much for sharing information like this!! Now I compare it to wanting to ride a roller coaster that has killed or maimed all its previous riders.. I'll never get back on.. life is plenty exciting here on the ground.. I don't need to be endangering my life every day to appreciate that
@@allfacts19 I’m in the process of retraining my brain while I’m still in my years of development. I’m 22 and have been smoking weed since I was 12. Although it is said you cannot get addicted to weed, it is not true. I constantly told myself I can quit whenever I want and that I just smoke weed because I feel like it, I was lying. Everytime I would wake up the first thing I would do is hit the vape/pipe up until I would go to sleep. I have realized that smoking weed can be relaxing but it definitely made changes to my body/mental thinking and not for the positive. My body constantly relies on THC to eat, or I cannot. Every week I was buying a new cartridge, and it would be gone in days, and I would repeat the cycle. I started noticing how much I was being affected when I started working heavier duty jobs and I noticed how much weed would just make me not want to do anything, so that combined with the fact that weed was the only thing that would get me to eat something, is when I realized there’s a big issue. I couldn’t go hours without just wanting to hit a weed vape or actual weed. I started spending more than I could afford to, which also made me realize I had a problem. One who is trying to overcome addiction must realize the problems that come with it. It is a battle of one person vs themselves, most importantly their mentality. Somebody who wants to overcome addiction has to bring it upon themselves to realize and say I DO NOT NEED IT. You CAN live without it, you used to NEVER NEED it, so why do you need it now? You don’t, but your body is going to make you think you do. It is the biggest mental battle people will face within themselves. Retrain the brain to work without it. Find things to keep you busy, find new friends, find new hobbies, you will be amazed at how much more open you are when you are mentally free from addiction, but it all starts with retraining the brain. It all starts up there.
@@bigloko714 I totally agree. You can become addicted to anything in this world. To beat a harmful addiction it is best to stay busy and find different hobbies like you said.
Dr. Grisel is a thoughtful and humble GENIUS. I am grateful that she has give so much of her life (literally) to afford us this invaluable information.
I am a recovering meth addict, I quit meth when I was 27years old then I became a alcoholic, I never did drink as a teenager, I am 45yrs old and I have battled alcohol for year's, I was sober from alcohol 5 years then the pandemic hit and I hit the wine bottle. It's definitely a daily struggle.
This is the third time I'm listening to this particular thingy. I think she's a great person. So relaxed and beautiful , in a lot of ways. I'm an 80s person as well. And I so , relate , to , her
Dr. Grisel, I really enjoyed your book "Never Enough" where you delved into this topic at greater length. Much like we teach kids in school about puberty so too should your message be part of the education curriculum.
This has been a part of education for decades. The problem is the lack of honesty and the Reefer Madness approach used. MJ is not a gateway drug and telling this to kids and that all kinds of horrible things will happen if you light up is not sound. Why? Because if they try it and nothing happens then the adults have no credibility. Further, most kids drank before they smoked. But alcohol isn't the gateway, either. It's trauma. A lack if coping skills to deal with feelings. THOSE are the things young humans need to learn about. That and decriminalization might go a long g way toward fewer addicts overall
Wow. This is incredible. What an amazing talk. I have a whole new respect and understanding for those who go through addiction and what it actually does to the brain. It would be exhausting, but overcoming it would be such an amazing reward. Definitely sharing this with some friends.
This is a fantastic tool, I have used it as an educational video to supplement my studies. I find personal accounts and anecdotes a more useful form of learning.
I read your book in rehab. It was given to me by my counselor who could sense my boredom and lack of mental stimulation. I devoured that book, he gave me his textbooks to read as he was finishing another degree, i have often been told i am too smart or curious for my own good. Going to school to be a Neuroscientist/chemist. I am very young and have untreated adhd which is why i self medicated. It’s ironic you say you didn’t find a cure, because that’s exactly what i want to find lol. I cured myself. It takes therapy and medication and then 2-3 years of abstinence for some. Not a cure for all tho. It works for me
I dont remember ever feeling homeostasis, or maybe just OK, before discovering Pot. I was over 50 before I discovered that I was covering trauma. Really early, hardwired response to trauma I dont even remember clearly. Great fun. Kinda made life difficult. I couldnt understand what was going on in me. Please . . . Be good to young people.
Kids do drugs for a couple of reasons.. either A. They want to have fun and try it with their friends, or B. They hate their life and think drugs will help them escaping the stress and turmoil of life. It shouldn’t be a shocker to any parent that your kid has tried a drug or two. So why are we so secretive of this stuff?!
Dr.Grisel what if your addiction isn’t to a substance? Any advice on that? My addiction is to always achieve something higher than what I am currently doing. This started in high school. I have been receiving treatment for my anxiety and depression for 5y now. My first therapist indefinitely I was addicted to my workload and the highs I received. I don’t see an end to this hole I put myself into. I am 22 now in college. I got better slightly but only after I lost 10 pounds in a month from a significant decrease in appetite. It scared me so I came clean to my therapist about my past cutting and thoughts. Just coming clean to her changed things faster after that. Now I am lost again. I have healthy coping mechanisms but recovery is so hard. Andy advice is very welcome
hey girl! I've noticed in my experience, that sharing my addictions with someone in my life, and sharing how I will limit myself, helps me hold myself accountable. I personally have a constant need to pursue/achieve more-- but scheduling my time out, by carving out specific time to honor that part of me, writing it on paper, to make it concrete, and then sharing with someone, "Hey I'm only spending 3 hours of productivity time per day" that helps me a lot! Sharing with someone, to who you can send an accountability text/call to, helps me a lot. Also being mindful, and ask yourself what is driving you to want to achieve more. And asking yourself what are the pro's and con's of this drive. Is it hurting myself/people more than helping? Then make appropriate changes to finding what balance you can have of honoring your wants/desires/needs as long as you aren't doing them at the expense of others' wellbeing, and your overall wellbeing. Rest/play/connection with others is so important for fueling us with passion and love. The high's are great, but finding more appreciation and joy for the process in which you are creating/striving for those high moments, is where I have been able to channel that excitement high I personally enjoy as well. Coming from an elite athlete, who very much enjoys the high of achieving things, getting into my body, and realizing the end goal is usually a temporary high, and appreciating the process more has helped me be able to spread out that high throughout the process at a lower dosage that doesn't leave me as burnt out, or feeling as much guilt/shame. There's nothing wrong with wanting to achieve things, I believe bringing joy and appreciation into the little moments throughout the experience is what takes away the shame/guilt I experienced originally in my pursuits. Also, write at the end of the day 3 things you did great that you are proud of yourself for, 1 having to do with the goals you are currently pursuing, 1 having to do with an emotional thing you are proud of yourself for experiencing/feeling/pushing through/opening yourself to, and lastly 1 thing having to do with anything but "work". as simple as "I brushed my teeth twice today, and I am so proud!" The other thing I would suggest is making a list of your accomplishments, and asking yourself "what little things about that process of achieving the big goal at the end, can i look back and appreciate, what did i not enjoy, and in the pursuit of my next big goal, what little goals, little things that make the big goal possible, do i want to experience more of in pursuit of my next big goal? I hope that makes sense!
You weren’t born with an addiction to achievement. You have to remember that your parents and society made you this way. They hurt you again and again. They withheld their love from you and made you believe the only way you could be loved is if you achieved endlessly. It’s not your fault. You were a happy child who was betrayed by the ones who should love you without condition. The only thing I can say that has helped me somewhat is remembering these facts and allowing all the pain to be there. The anger, the confusion, the numbness, the loneliness, and all the other uncomfortable feelings these feelings deserve to be listened to. They are all the pain we felt over our lifetimes that were never addressed. They have their purpose and they must be fully listened to in order for them to feel better, to finally feel safe. Just sit there and let the feelings be, treat them as crying children. Don’t do what your parents did and hit the children, ignore them, blame them, run away from them. Listen to them.
Sorry for the long delay, Rob. It's meant to take the fun out of drinking (but leave some of the sedative effect). It wouldn't solve addiction but can help some alcohol abusers. In general, I think it is more freeing to lean into sobriety and come up with more creative ways to mitigate anxiety. Meditation and exercise are both more effective in the long run than any drug (GABA agonist like alcohol or benzodiazepines) just not as simple to achieve at first.
Primed for risk taking? Wired for excitement? And rolling in to adulthood with some experience and street smarts is good thing until it gets out of hand.
I've been a heavy smoker for 26 years. It calms my adhd so I can focus on all of the many, many things I do because I find them interesting. I've seen marijuana break people AND make people. So I really think this talk is a bit one sided on the abstinence side. What works for one, doesn't work for all.
Seems more like this "Not Enough" chase is for herself? From titles of articles and assuming from here on she's either consciously trying to find the reason why she's was how she was during addiction or she wants to find the root cause of what she felt so she can educate others to not chase it or sum'n
i.m 80 now and have smoked herb since i was 23. so 57 years. don;t do the first one is my only advice. good luck. it.s not that funny. i tried to disobey my dad by smoking cigarrettes. yes very childish behavior. this leads to habits.a young person is not helping themselves. .good luck lets peel off the self deceipt. i have a bad habit that never goes away.
Why on earth is she differentiating between alcohol and “illegal drugs”? First off alcohol IS illegal for people under 21 and it is the most dangerous, deadly, destructive drug there is.
The key is moderation. I do coke once a week and even if my friends bring some i won't do it. If you can't handle substances don't do it in the first place.
You're experience is interesting but not typical. Would love to better understand the neural substrates (or the experience) of moderation! Not in my 'wheelhouse', but my hat is off to you.
Cole is impossible to moderate. You are a train heading for a wall of fire with no brakes. All your moderation comment is saying is you are heading towards that wall of fire at a slower speed. The fire gets everyone mate.
"I failed at using an ancient medicine used safely for thousands of years of human civilization responsibly, therefore it is bad for ALL OF YOU!" What an anecdotal trainwreck this is. She both looks and sounds like a Puritan Christian fanatic. She should say what she means, and means what she says. Which religious group bankrolled her for this?
Wow how does this have such low amount of views? This is life changing
What a brave wonderful woman and the story that got her here. If you have an issue, go get educated. Courageous and smart! And a really liberating way to look at addiction I think.
Thank you so much!
I was 14 when I first experienced opiate withdrawal but it was like a roller coaster.. The ups and downs were both still exciting.. didn't really admit it was a huge problem for about 10 years.. took me another 10 years to get sober.. most of my critical years of development were spent in the fog of addiction, now it's hard wired in my brain.. re-training my brain has only been possible because of a deeper understanding of the psychology of addiction, once I understood the problem I was able to work on the solution.. thank you so much for sharing information like this!! Now I compare it to wanting to ride a roller coaster that has killed or maimed all its previous riders.. I'll never get back on.. life is plenty exciting here on the ground.. I don't need to be endangering my life every day to appreciate that
Very insightful
Well said
How did you retrain your brain? I'm interested in hearing the steps that you took. What type of work did you do? What classes?
@@allfacts19 I’m in the process of retraining my brain while I’m still in my years of development. I’m 22 and have been smoking weed since I was 12. Although it is said you cannot get addicted to weed, it is not true. I constantly told myself I can quit whenever I want and that I just smoke weed because I feel like it, I was lying. Everytime I would wake up the first thing I would do is hit the vape/pipe up until I would go to sleep. I have realized that smoking weed can be relaxing but it definitely made changes to my body/mental thinking and not for the positive. My body constantly relies on THC to eat, or I cannot. Every week I was buying a new cartridge, and it would be gone in days, and I would repeat the cycle. I started noticing how much I was being affected when I started working heavier duty jobs and I noticed how much weed would just make me not want to do anything, so that combined with the fact that weed was the only thing that would get me to eat something, is when I realized there’s a big issue. I couldn’t go hours without just wanting to hit a weed vape or actual weed. I started spending more than I could afford to, which also made me realize I had a problem. One who is trying to overcome addiction must realize the problems that come with it. It is a battle of one person vs themselves, most importantly their mentality. Somebody who wants to overcome addiction has to bring it upon themselves to realize and say I DO NOT NEED IT. You CAN live without it, you used to NEVER NEED it, so why do you need it now? You don’t, but your body is going to make you think you do. It is the biggest mental battle people will face within themselves. Retrain the brain to work without it. Find things to keep you busy, find new friends, find new hobbies, you will be amazed at how much more open you are when you are mentally free from addiction, but it all starts with retraining the brain. It all starts up there.
@@bigloko714 I totally agree. You can become addicted to anything in this world. To beat a harmful addiction it is best to stay busy and find different hobbies like you said.
Dr. Grisel is a thoughtful and humble GENIUS. I am grateful that she has give so much of her life (literally) to afford us this invaluable information.
I want to hug this lady for her words at the end.
I am a recovering meth addict, I quit meth when I was 27years old then I became a alcoholic, I never did drink as a teenager, I am 45yrs old and I have battled alcohol for year's, I was sober from alcohol 5 years then the pandemic hit and I hit the wine bottle. It's definitely a daily struggle.
This is the third time I'm listening to this particular thingy. I think she's a great person. So relaxed and beautiful , in a lot of ways. I'm an 80s person as well. And I so , relate , to , her
so basically never stop!
Dr. Grisel, I really enjoyed your book "Never Enough" where you delved into this topic at greater length. Much like we teach kids in school about puberty so too should your message be part of the education curriculum.
I agree! Thanks for commenting.
This has been a part of education for decades. The problem is the lack of honesty and the Reefer Madness approach used. MJ is not a gateway drug and telling this to kids and that all kinds of horrible things will happen if you light up is not sound. Why? Because if they try it and nothing happens then the adults have no credibility. Further, most kids drank before they smoked. But alcohol isn't the gateway, either. It's trauma. A lack if coping skills to deal with feelings. THOSE are the things young humans need to learn about. That and decriminalization might go a long g way toward fewer addicts overall
Wow. This is incredible. What an amazing talk. I have a whole new respect and understanding for those who go through addiction and what it actually does to the brain. It would be exhausting, but overcoming it would be such an amazing reward. Definitely sharing this with some friends.
Thank you Eric
@@judygrisel6291 I enjoy your book and listen to it once a year, Judith, thank you so much for your work.
This is a fantastic tool, I have used it as an educational video to supplement my studies. I find personal accounts and anecdotes a more useful form of learning.
Your book is really helping me in my own recovery. Thank you for sharing your story and amassed knowledge.
Thank you for writing-- and feel free to keep in touch!
What is her first name, I want to get the book.
@@brandyhuffman8672 Never Enough
Judith Grisel
Good lecture! It seems as depression is similar to the result of years of drug usage, but without having taken any. Question is: how to revert that?
Just amazing. Nothing more to add really
Just got her book NEVER ENOUGH. Glad I found her content!
I like that she differentiates between acute use of marijuana and habitual use
I read your book in rehab. It was given to me by my counselor who could sense my boredom and lack of mental stimulation. I devoured that book, he gave me his textbooks to read as he was finishing another degree, i have often been told i am too smart or curious for my own good. Going to school to be a Neuroscientist/chemist. I am very young and have untreated adhd which is why i self medicated.
It’s ironic you say you didn’t find a cure, because that’s exactly what i want to find lol. I cured myself. It takes therapy and medication and then 2-3 years of abstinence for some. Not a cure for all tho. It works for me
I've been smoking since I was 26. I'm not 31 and even though I've decided to quit, I'm afraid that i dont know or won't like myself when I'm not high.
My bet is that you will like yourself better (once the withdrawal phase is over). Give it a try and let me know.
@@judygrisel6291 thank you so much Dr Grisel.
You might like yourself better.
I am an addict. If you or a loved one is struggling and suffering, I would pray for you if I prayed. Best of luck!!
No time like the present. There is always hope!
I dont remember ever feeling homeostasis, or maybe just OK, before discovering Pot. I was over 50 before I discovered that I was covering trauma. Really early, hardwired response to trauma I dont even remember clearly. Great fun. Kinda made life difficult. I couldnt understand what was going on in me.
Please . . . Be good to young people.
Kids do drugs for a couple of reasons.. either A. They want to have fun and try it with their friends, or B. They hate their life and think drugs will help them escaping the stress and turmoil of life. It shouldn’t be a shocker to any parent that your kid has tried a drug or two. So why are we so secretive of this stuff?!
Fascinating topic. I have just ordered your book. Thank you!
Wow. Great talk.
Dr.Grisel what if your addiction isn’t to a substance? Any advice on that? My addiction is to always achieve something higher than what I am currently doing. This started in high school. I have been receiving treatment for my anxiety and depression for 5y now. My first therapist indefinitely I was addicted to my workload and the highs I received. I don’t see an end to this hole I put myself into. I am 22 now in college. I got better slightly but only after I lost 10 pounds in a month from a significant decrease in appetite. It scared me so I came clean to my therapist about my past cutting and thoughts. Just coming clean to her changed things faster after that. Now I am lost again. I have healthy coping mechanisms but recovery is so hard. Andy advice is very welcome
hey girl! I've noticed in my experience, that sharing my addictions with someone in my life, and sharing how I will limit myself, helps me hold myself accountable. I personally have a constant need to pursue/achieve more-- but scheduling my time out, by carving out specific time to honor that part of me, writing it on paper, to make it concrete, and then sharing with someone, "Hey I'm only spending 3 hours of productivity time per day" that helps me a lot! Sharing with someone, to who you can send an accountability text/call to, helps me a lot. Also being mindful, and ask yourself what is driving you to want to achieve more. And asking yourself what are the pro's and con's of this drive. Is it hurting myself/people more than helping? Then make appropriate changes to finding what balance you can have of honoring your wants/desires/needs as long as you aren't doing them at the expense of others' wellbeing, and your overall wellbeing. Rest/play/connection with others is so important for fueling us with passion and love. The high's are great, but finding more appreciation and joy for the process in which you are creating/striving for those high moments, is where I have been able to channel that excitement high I personally enjoy as well. Coming from an elite athlete, who very much enjoys the high of achieving things, getting into my body, and realizing the end goal is usually a temporary high, and appreciating the process more has helped me be able to spread out that high throughout the process at a lower dosage that doesn't leave me as burnt out, or feeling as much guilt/shame. There's nothing wrong with wanting to achieve things, I believe bringing joy and appreciation into the little moments throughout the experience is what takes away the shame/guilt I experienced originally in my pursuits. Also, write at the end of the day 3 things you did great that you are proud of yourself for, 1 having to do with the goals you are currently pursuing, 1 having to do with an emotional thing you are proud of yourself for experiencing/feeling/pushing through/opening yourself to, and lastly 1 thing having to do with anything but "work". as simple as "I brushed my teeth twice today, and I am so proud!" The other thing I would suggest is making a list of your accomplishments, and asking yourself "what little things about that process of achieving the big goal at the end, can i look back and appreciate, what did i not enjoy, and in the pursuit of my next big goal, what little goals, little things that make the big goal possible, do i want to experience more of in pursuit of my next big goal? I hope that makes sense!
You weren’t born with an addiction to achievement. You have to remember that your parents and society made you this way. They hurt you again and again. They withheld their love from you and made you believe the only way you could be loved is if you achieved endlessly. It’s not your fault. You were a happy child who was betrayed by the ones who should love you without condition. The only thing I can say that has helped me somewhat is remembering these facts and allowing all the pain to be there. The anger, the confusion, the numbness, the loneliness, and all the other uncomfortable feelings these feelings deserve to be listened to. They are all the pain we felt over our lifetimes that were never addressed. They have their purpose and they must be fully listened to in order for them to feel better, to finally feel safe. Just sit there and let the feelings be, treat them as crying children. Don’t do what your parents did and hit the children, ignore them, blame them, run away from them. Listen to them.
Quit smoking weed 5 months ago...im actually starting to feel human again...damn I smoked a lot of weed. Like a lot you guys.
Dr. Grisel how do you feel about the data from the Sinclair Method and its success rate in solving addiction problems?
Sorry for the long delay, Rob. It's meant to take the fun out of drinking (but leave some of the sedative effect). It wouldn't solve addiction but can help some alcohol abusers. In general, I think it is more freeing to lean into sobriety and come up with more creative ways to mitigate anxiety. Meditation and exercise are both more effective in the long run than any drug (GABA agonist like alcohol or benzodiazepines) just not as simple to achieve at first.
Thank you so much.
My pleasure!
Fascinating and insightful
I love TEDs, there are always these gems.
I wish I could get my husband to watch this!
Primed for risk taking? Wired for excitement? And rolling in to adulthood with some experience and street smarts is good thing until it gets out of hand.
lovely link to send, blessings!
Exactly! We need to work together to find meaningful ways to engage kids that aren't so self destructive!
I have lost friends to drugs, unable to cope they thought they could but we could see the decline, they did I fear when it was at the end.
@@judygrisel6291 you are absolutely correct Dr, Grisel, great talk!
This is why I watch TED's.
She should name her book, “What’s your bacon 🥓 “
Highly interesting... no wonder many feel useless when sober
I'm an addict and alcoholic and what you said relates to nothing I've been through or people I know.
please explain that
You’re in denial 😂
I've been a heavy smoker for 26 years. It calms my adhd so I can focus on all of the many, many things I do because I find them interesting. I've seen marijuana break people AND make people. So I really think this talk is a bit one sided on the abstinence side. What works for one, doesn't work for all.
I think most of the nation is on some kind of drug.
Please tell me we are not surprised that young people try all kinds of experiential drugs?
Seems more like this "Not Enough" chase is for herself? From titles of articles and assuming from here on she's either consciously trying to find the reason why she's was how she was during addiction or she wants to find the root cause of what she felt so she can educate others to not chase it or sum'n
The alcohol statistic must be American because plenty of countries drink alcohol young and dont become alcoholics.
i.m 80 now and have smoked herb since i was 23. so 57 years. don;t do the first one is my only advice. good luck. it.s not that funny. i tried to disobey my dad by smoking cigarrettes. yes very childish behavior. this leads to habits.a young person is not helping themselves. .good luck lets peel off the self deceipt. i have a bad habit that never goes away.
Why on earth is she differentiating between alcohol and “illegal drugs”? First off alcohol IS illegal for people under 21 and it is the most dangerous, deadly, destructive drug there is.
I'm guessing that she still wants to make herself look good when using theses things
Now what?!
So keep smoking for more interesting and fun!/?
Toke up.
jokes on you i haven't used drugs or alcohol
First to comment hit a like 😊😊😊
The key is moderation. I do coke once a week and even if my friends bring some i won't do it. If you can't handle substances don't do it in the first place.
LOl
You're experience is interesting but not typical. Would love to better understand the neural substrates (or the experience) of moderation! Not in my 'wheelhouse', but my hat is off to you.
Cole is impossible to moderate. You are a train heading for a wall of fire with no brakes. All your moderation comment is saying is you are heading towards that wall of fire at a slower speed. The fire gets everyone mate.
Gggg
"I failed at using an ancient medicine used safely for thousands of years of human civilization responsibly, therefore it is bad for ALL OF YOU!"
What an anecdotal trainwreck this is. She both looks and sounds like a Puritan Christian fanatic. She should say what she means, and means what she says. Which religious group bankrolled her for this?
You seem ok so I guess I’ll be ok