Misunderstanding dopamine: Why the language of addiction matters | Cyrus McCandless | TEDxPortsmouth

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  • Опубликовано: 24 сен 2018
  • Dopamine is the star of our conversations about motivation and addiction. But journalists, marketers, and app developers alike have missed some critical details. Understanding how dopamine really works to motivate our everyday behaviors--and what goes wrong in drug addiction--is the key to more productive thinking about our 'bad habits,' as well as today's opioid crisis.
    Since 1992, Dr. Cyrus H. McCandless has specialized in Neuroethology-the study of brain activity during natural behavior and stimulation-with a focus on motivation, goal-directed behavior, navigation and spatial orientation, psycholinguistics, behavioral economics, and decision-making. He's conducted extensive investigations of the networks underlying the structure and causes of behavior and cognition, from neurophysiological studies in awake behaving rats to non-invasive brain imaging in humans, and is the recipient of four competitive federal awards to support his research. Since 2007, he's led comprehensive, multimodal consumer research initiatives for more than 100 household names, and cutting-edge research into the neural bases of narrative comprehension and persuasion for the Defense Advanced Research Projects Administration (DARPA). Dr. McCandless holds a BA in Psychology from the University of Chicago, where he continued as a Graduate Student at Large prior to conducting primate research at The National Institutes of Health's Laboratory of Comparative Ethology. He earned his MS in Neuroscience and PhD in Neurobiology from the University of Pittsburgh, and Certification in Cognitive Neuroscience from the Center for the Neural Basis of Cognition; the National Science Foundation’s Center of Excellence at the University of Pittsburgh and Carnegie Mellon University.
    www.sentientdecisionscience.com/
    Cyrus McCandless is a neurobiologist who studies brain activity with a focus on motivation, goal-directed behavior and decision-making. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx

Комментарии • 367

  • @otisobl
    @otisobl 3 года назад +409

    From a psychologist working with addicts: while not easy to understand, this is a hugely important talk that needs way more exposure.

    • @jessemolinajr
      @jessemolinajr 3 года назад +7

      I work in the field of chemical misuse and I agree the more educated addicts the less relapse

    • @usmc72409
      @usmc72409 2 года назад +16

      From an addict, excuse me, from a person who suffers from addiction, while not easy to understand, this is a very important talk that all people who suffer from addiction needs to hear. 7 years sober. Coming off opiates was the hardest thing I’ve ever experienced. The stigma around it makes it seem even more impossible. Even I still fall for the stigma. My opening line I corrected only bc I feel what I originally said keeps the stigma going. “You am not your addiction”. -Scott Corey aka best therapist I ever had and my teacher of stoic philosophy. Ty to anyone who helps us. Ty for helping.

    • @patrickmcdade7353
      @patrickmcdade7353 2 года назад +8

      I have goosebumps, I'm using but not strung out. I want to be done with alcohol.

    • @heiltecn9ne
      @heiltecn9ne 2 года назад +3

      I feel society needs to be more educated on addiction as well.

    • @sawdaproductions8037
      @sawdaproductions8037 2 года назад +1

      @@usmc72409 ❤️

  • @bangtanx2027
    @bangtanx2027 Год назад +18

    This makes me infinitely prouder of anybody who beat a drug addiction or is even trying to.

  • @MomsLettingGo
    @MomsLettingGo Год назад +25

    YES! We can NOT punish the pain out of people. It doesn't work. Thank you for speaking out. I shared this in my support groups today. Families need to understand this so they unlearn the stigmas that keep them angry and unforgiving of our loved ones who can NOT just stop. You explain it well. Thank you for all the work you do in this space.

  • @Kevinswope23
    @Kevinswope23 2 года назад +49

    so im addicted to meth. and as far as i know, im a good man at heart and im not a criminal but i am struggling. and have been for 15years. give this guy an award for stating the most important perspective on reality i live in. i dont want to be doing this to myself, but its still constant

    • @Xhuffuydrhhddyu
      @Xhuffuydrhhddyu 2 года назад +4

      As long as you keep your struggles as your own struggles and treat other people as they deserve irrespective of how you feel you are a good man. Addiction affects everyone differently and there is no easy way out, but as long as you treat others morally you are a good person.

    • @kelseymarie1809
      @kelseymarie1809 Год назад +12

      I hope you found peace and recovery❤️

    • @gabi3742
      @gabi3742 Год назад +6

      i hope you can find a way to recover ❤ I'll pray for you, just know you're not a failure and you can be healthy again ❤

    • @DarisLancaster
      @DarisLancaster Год назад

      Well said!

    • @bmb4024
      @bmb4024 Год назад

      How are you doing now?

  • @TwiztedHumor
    @TwiztedHumor Месяц назад +3

    Finally some uncommon sense. Thank you!

  • @Tika927
    @Tika927 3 года назад +158

    This was what I suspected and it's great to know the research backs it up. I was thinking about how people's reasons for taking substances can be very different, even for the same drugs, and I figured dopamine was involved. I've noticed some of my friends are sensation-seeking type people, and some are more sensation-avoiding. With ADHD and its improperly regulated dopamine, I find myself as the seeking type. My sister, however, is a long-term addict and sensation-avoiding (avoiding emotions, memories of trauma, etc.).
    My mom has a misconception that my sister seeks drugs because they're pleasurable and buzzy, which causes her to grossly oversimply addiction. She can't understand how my sister can't stop, but what I've been trying to explain is that even though pleasure-seeking is how *we* experience drugs, people with hardcore addiction like my sister wouldn't uproot their whole lives if this was just about "liking" something. My observation is that most hardcore addicts have at least some aspect of self-medicating away unpleasant sensations, not just seeking buzzy ones.

    • @steinarjonsson_
      @steinarjonsson_ 2 года назад +5

      Drug abusers use drugs as supplements. If you don't get enough sun, you take vitamin D. If you're chronically miserable, you take whatever drug alleviates that suffering.
      What is addiction? Addiction is simply the habit of staying intoxicated, it's not a brain disease, it's not the addictive nature of some drugs, it's just a way to escape pain. It's easy for the public to understand chronic drug use when the wounds are physical but when the wounds are mental, it for some reason becomes puzzling to people.
      Preaching abstinence, detox and rehab isn't going to help drug abusers get better, but working with them to improve their lives and tackle the source of their suffering will. The most promising help can be found in psychedelics, just make sure to do a little research beforehand.

    • @HoratioKJV
      @HoratioKJV 2 года назад +2

      @@steinarjonsson_ How about properly enforcing drug laws to deter people from using dangerous substances in the first place?

    • @Joel-gf4zl
      @Joel-gf4zl 2 года назад +4

      @Ryan 21 look at countries where users are killed in the streets for USING drugs and you will see even the threat of that punishment doesn't have the effect you seem to think it does.

    • @heiltecn9ne
      @heiltecn9ne 2 года назад +9

      @ryan 21 we have been punishing drug users for years it isn’t helping lol… in fact it is the opposite of what would be helpful to those people they need compassion and support. Addicts face extreme stigma and negativity from the population mostly because the population is uneducated on addiction.

    • @robert7100
      @robert7100 2 года назад +1

      @@HoratioKJV that's not gonna stop drugs from existing

  • @voteforhamsandwich1112
    @voteforhamsandwich1112 2 года назад +20

    1:55 - i am addicted to my phone, i also am severely addicted to alcohol. I was also addicted to nicotine. And i can confirm, drug addiction and phone addiction IS THE SAME THING. I can't control any of it, feel torture when abstaining, they use the SAME mechanism

  • @Terra101
    @Terra101 3 года назад +33

    Imagine putting people in prison for being addicted to something.

    • @galaxysiiq8
      @galaxysiiq8 3 года назад +4

      Here in kuwait, you can get arested and give you 10 years sentense if they got you taking marijuana AT HOME!!. Even if you don't have much of it. But if that drug was meth it would be 1-2 years sentense. Laws are weird and stuipd

    • @snay6869
      @snay6869 3 года назад +2

      It doesn't make sense.

  • @Jill-vr3fj
    @Jill-vr3fj 5 лет назад +130

    So enlightening. Thank you.
    And such a better way of looking at addiction rather than the person is a failure, weak, and should be ashamed of themselves. Now if we could only change our judicial system to see addiction this way

    • @TheRedverb
      @TheRedverb 4 года назад +4

      People on drugs still do things they should be ashamed of.

    • @ch1ch4r1t017
      @ch1ch4r1t017 4 года назад +6

      @Depends on how you say it - yes, they do things they should be ashamed of. But put yourself in their position. Did u see the dopamine spike it causes compared to other things (alcohol, cheeseburger etc.). And thats just dopamine, let alone other hormones.
      The truth is, most of us would behave that way if we were junkies. We all got our dark side, our shadow. Luckily, a lot of us dont experience the true magnitude of it.

    • @TheRedverb
      @TheRedverb 4 года назад +9

      @@ch1ch4r1t017 I don't need to imagine myself in the predicament of an addict. In 2001 I was in fact a crack addict.
      Drugs or not. You're always the final word on the decisions you make, and if those decisions lead to behavior worthy of shame then so be it. Most addicts don't need more understanding, they need a greater willingness to take an honest look at what they've become.

    • @cyberneticbutterfly8506
      @cyberneticbutterfly8506 4 года назад +2

      ​@@TheRedverb I think showing understanding is not about showing personal understanding to them in person, rather when people discuss policymaking that affect society as a whole it's important to not think of people in terms of blame. At that level one must treat things as they are, even if we see things from more of a free will perspective in every day life.

    • @psychwardempire8937
      @psychwardempire8937 4 года назад

      Hey u got it.

  • @kupamanduka9218
    @kupamanduka9218 2 года назад +90

    "Addicts want the drug far more than you can ever want your Iphone or Facebook. It's not because they like the drugs it's because when they take those big doses of drugs ,those doses of drugs are teaching their brain to seek out more and more drugs no matter the cost"
    Wanting vs liking explained perfectly and how wanting does not mean liking.

  • @dreamingone615
    @dreamingone615 Год назад +7

    "We" won't ever stop addiction. "We" don't want that. The only thing that matters is the money. Everything is aligned perfectly to continue chasing this goal. Good luck out there.

    • @GregtheGrey6969
      @GregtheGrey6969 5 месяцев назад

      Yep

    • @Lanetta-jm2ji
      @Lanetta-jm2ji 5 дней назад

      Well duh, is that not why they legalized weed. Have you seen the stock market on such? So hey if you take a hit of weed 5 times and your kid picks up their phone 5 times in one day is that compulsive?

  • @CuriousEarthMan
    @CuriousEarthMan 3 года назад +55

    I'd like to hear more of this. I'm not saying I got a surprisingly good feeling from this and I want more of that feeling.

  • @just_bee9482
    @just_bee9482 2 года назад +12

    after 3 decades as an addict who is finding freedom slowly but surely, I would rather say that it's both a moral and biological crisis at the same time

  • @dualapeepa7719
    @dualapeepa7719 2 года назад +18

    This was really interesting, there is still so much stigma around addiction that it makes it so much harder to get help, there's other people (random Karen's) who suddenly think it's in their place to tell you what a failure you are- just because you made a mistake.

  • @catherinegirard8339
    @catherinegirard8339 3 года назад +11

    Thank you for this piece of information! It helped me understand a little more my addiction. 🙏

  • @ianblank
    @ianblank Год назад +5

    Wow! No one wants to give up their phones! We’re all addicts! It’s like people who say coffee isn’t a drug. Every form of escapism triggers the same dopamine response in regular intervals.

    • @theholyfridge2130
      @theholyfridge2130 3 месяца назад

      this guys talk was made before people realized tiktoks way if media consumption would be the new way of absorbing content. brain rot🧟

  • @Iamlearningtolove
    @Iamlearningtolove 4 года назад +26

    God bless you and people like you who are opening doors that will create real and lasting change for so many people who deserve a fair, fighting chance at life. Thank you so very much for your work.

  • @FkSeditiousChristofascists
    @FkSeditiousChristofascists Год назад +2

    The human experience is wild. Truly excellent talk. Why don't more people know this? Guessing it's because of money one way or another... Addicts are easy to take advantage of and America loves that...

  • @cathleenrocco4804
    @cathleenrocco4804 3 года назад +11

    So liking the drugs has nothing to do with addiction. They want the drugs because the drugs condition the brain to want the drugs, by stimulating the reward centers, which reinforces the drug-seeking.

  • @tmb.673
    @tmb.673 2 года назад +2

    I love his structure of educating us, target audiences, with the lesson, however, his voice is so soothing it makes me sleepy.

  • @samanthabarron8481
    @samanthabarron8481 2 года назад +24

    I would like to start a conversation about the stigma surrounding prescribing stimulant medications to individuals suffering from Methamphetamine addiction, particularly those self-medicating ADHD symptoms. We have Methadone and Suboxone as medically assisted treatments, so why are we so opposed to prescribing Adderall to someone who needed it to begin with for their dopamine deficiency? I’ve seen countless lives ruined and I can’t help but wonder if a proper prescription would have helped wean them off this terribly addictive street drug.

    • @blargithonify
      @blargithonify 2 года назад +4

      I take meds for my ADHD, and if my doctor were to take my meds away it would be like taking a wheelchair away from someone and telling them to crawl.

    • @WillArtigues
      @WillArtigues Год назад

      1000%

  • @danielnallydn
    @danielnallydn 2 года назад +53

    I agree with the final thesis. “Addiction is not a moral problem but a biological one.” The issue is that many addicts act immorally. The two issues get confused

    • @coquetteriedancer9833
      @coquetteriedancer9833 2 года назад +6

      From my experience, if the immoral life suits the biological craving, it will be taken.
      It's not that I don't see such things as immoral, it's just that we feel the need for a path to take our itching cravings (can't speak for all addicts here). Only after do we feel the moral implications of some of our actions and the stigma associated with them

    • @cmcc1442
      @cmcc1442 9 месяцев назад

      Agreed--we have to recognize that addiction is far more than powerful enough to overcome our intrinsic moral motivations. The un-anticipatable consequences of repeated or chronic use of powerfully addictive drugs, specifically the dopaminergic drugs mentioned around 7:20, requires a measured amount of sympathy for the simple fact of loss of control over one's own behavior, moral decisions included, that afflicts the addicted. Of course, harmful behavior must still be constrained or prevented by whatever means might be necessary, but we need to remember that the cause of that behavior must be taken into account when considering 'punitive' measures vs. perhaps-more-humane measures that could be taken simply to prevent further harm to others.

  • @antonylynn7783
    @antonylynn7783 2 года назад +10

    Addicted to smoking, cannabis, alcohol AND working out. Seems my brain is hard wired to dopamine.

    • @cmcc1442
      @cmcc1442 9 месяцев назад +1

      We all are! It's just a question of how we get that dopamine...

  • @mr8966
    @mr8966 Год назад +2

    Very concise and informational. The easy to understand visuals really leveraged the impact of his powerful points. Thank-you.

  • @alexjointsoon592
    @alexjointsoon592 4 года назад +15

    i smoke 2 packs of cigs a day and lots of cannabis butter, and i was an alcoholic 15 years ago. with that said no one knows dopamine better than myself. when i don't have dopamine in my system i can barely even move

  • @snufbeats
    @snufbeats 10 месяцев назад +2

    This guy gets it… if people only respected drugs for what they are, instead of treating “addicts” lk they are weak, understand how strong drugs are and how much your brain likes them. The first step is admitting you wouldn’t be able to hang if it happened to you…

  • @francisquan224
    @francisquan224 2 месяца назад +1

    In my opinion, things that secrete too much Dopamine include one of the following two factors:
    1. Easy access
    2. Quick rewards
    Typical example: If you want to eat ice cream cake and your mother always buys ice cream for the refrigerator every day. You can easily enjoy ice cream and get rewarded with the delicious and cool feeling of an ice cream cone.
    However, if you want to eat ice cream but the ice cream shop is 30 minutes walk away from your house. You won't eat ice cream anymore.
    => So, before you think about touching your phone instead of reading a book, remember: anything that takes time is useful, things that are quick will not stay in your mind.
    Sorry for the grammar mistakes because I used Google translate

  • @haziqzaidi711
    @haziqzaidi711 12 дней назад

    Dopamine level of health is the same thing to do with the kids and the kids are going to be a good friend of ours 💓❤

  • @MuhammadAamir-dj9lg
    @MuhammadAamir-dj9lg 12 часов назад

    The brain process is liking things and wanting things in a different way they are not equal

  • @calmnessmind1596
    @calmnessmind1596 4 года назад +8

    Thank you for the enlightenment on that subject.

  • @ic2063
    @ic2063 3 года назад +4

    Mental health is really misunderstood. Words like schizophrenia, addiction, crazy are all lazy words which perpetuate myths and dangerous misconceptions about real stuff.

  • @sallyrowe-pz3fm
    @sallyrowe-pz3fm Год назад +3

    This is what I've come to figure out. The drug is in control of the person. The person is not in control of the drug no matter what. It's the drug that over rides the common sense ability. It over rides the ability to care about their selves. We can see what they are doing to their selves because we have that ability to reason. Except how to keep them from using the drug.

  • @jakehannigan7159
    @jakehannigan7159 4 года назад +6

    People need more videos like this, journalists had been using the "dopamine" buzz word so much and writing while articles and blogs about topics regarding what they think dopamine is. Some people then believe these bloggers who do not fully understand these buzzwords and take their words as fact... People should be more concerned about spreading pseudoscience of they have a blog.

    • @yanwaili8315
      @yanwaili8315 4 года назад

      true

    • @shereeclinton8741
      @shereeclinton8741 2 года назад

      Most "science" is fake if you go do your own learning you will see things connect and make beautiful sense. The science we are fed are contradictory and yet we hold both idea's together and do not see they are contradictory. So strange to me.

  • @roguecalvinist
    @roguecalvinist 2 года назад +1

    This was incredibly insightful

  • @ieatcrayons3322
    @ieatcrayons3322 2 года назад

    Thank you!

  • @blargithonify
    @blargithonify 2 года назад +7

    “You still have control over your own decisions or behavior” as someone with ADHD I disagree. It feels like I can get addicted to anything. Take the people on the show my 600 lb life for example, these people are killing themselves with food, yet they don’t stop eating cheeseburgers because they are addicted.

    • @narmo7989
      @narmo7989 Год назад

      I agree. I think i have ADHD also but doctors are too busy to deal with me these days

    • @ashleychapman3174
      @ashleychapman3174 Год назад

      As someone being treated for ADHD I agree with your point. I get attached to things too quickly and obsess non stop which is known as hyper focused. It’s a struggle but this makes total sense.

    • @cmcc1442
      @cmcc1442 9 месяцев назад

      Agreed on the latter point, but not the first. People with food (and other 'normal' reward-related) addictions may have disordered reinforcement-related brain circuits, and so they may really be addicted in the same way as drug addicts, but with a different underlying etiology ("etiology" meaning the cause of a disease). By contrast, ADHD is not associated with 'addictive behavior' across the board. It's entirely possible to have ADHD and also be particularly susceptible to addictive behaviors in relation to other things/activities, but it's also possible to have ADHD without any particular susceptibility to other 'addiction-like' behaviors. These syndromes are not directly responsible for one another, nor do they always occur together. It's more complicated than anything I could squeeze into a 12 minute presentation, of course, but it isn't impossible to understand. I wish you well, friend!

  • @Torbu6286
    @Torbu6286 6 месяцев назад +1

    So for every single thing we do on a daily basis the release of dopamine is very similar we can switch between those actions easily, all the actions fall very closely more or less than the same part of the spectrum whereas drugs and addictive substances are in the far end of the spectrum there's no other thing equally releasing dopamine so the switching becomes harder but not impossible with support.

  • @lightbeingpontifex
    @lightbeingpontifex 3 года назад +10

    Dopamine addiction = food, phone, drug addiction = whole other different category,,,

  • @jayamustika5938
    @jayamustika5938 3 года назад +1

    I should have found this sooner, it suprisingly more helpful than those high viewed advice

  • @jonathanhutchinson5649
    @jonathanhutchinson5649 4 года назад +7

    Shoutout to the intro graphics.

  • @nektariosvasilopoulos3841
    @nektariosvasilopoulos3841 2 года назад

    This explains a lot.

  • @JustineJohnson-yl8mu
    @JustineJohnson-yl8mu 5 месяцев назад +1

    You are soooo right

  • @hollyschallenges
    @hollyschallenges 3 года назад +54

    Writing my dissertation on social media 'addiction' and this has completely flipped my view and is incredibly enlightening. It's similar mechanics but at a completely different scale, would that be fair to say? Very helpful anyway, thanks for this.

    • @cmcc1442
      @cmcc1442 3 года назад +8

      Exactly. In fact, I presented not long after a social marketing exec who espoused the idea that they were tapping into the 'addictiveness' of social media; and my point here was, very directly, that there's no comparison... at all. -Cyrus

    • @durden91tyler
      @durden91tyler 2 года назад +9

      No it's not a different scale it's not addiction at all. Watch the video again

    • @jadenrankin9269
      @jadenrankin9269 Год назад

      I’m writing an essay on why social media is bad basically and I came to this video for help and saw your comment lol

    • @MrFreitasrobert
      @MrFreitasrobert 8 месяцев назад +3

      Electronic devices and social media are addictive. This video is old, and we have learned much since this was presented. Children play video games for hours and hours on end. It impacts their functioning with academics and overall health. Are their levels of addiction? Yes, obviously. However, it's the same desire to escape pain and feel instant gratification despite long-term impacts on functioning. Are the dopamine levels different for meth and IG,... of course. They can still be addictive. Food has 12 step programs and people eat themselves into an early grave. Small releases of dopamine consistently can have huge impacts on your physical and emotional health. Do not blindly listen to old tedtalks and discredit recent evidence to the contrary.

    • @MrFreitasrobert
      @MrFreitasrobert 8 месяцев назад +1

      Electronic devices and social media are addictive. This video is old, and we have learned much since this was presented. Children play video games for hours and hours on end. It impacts their functioning with academics and overall health. Are their levels of addiction? Yes, obviously. However, it's the same desire to escape pain and feel instant gratification despite long-term impacts on functioning. Are the dopamine levels different for meth and IG,... of course. They can still be addictive. Food has 12 step programs and people eat themselves into an early grave. Small releases of dopamine consistently can have huge impacts on your physical and emotional health. Do not blindly listen to old tedtalks and discredit recent evidence to the contrary.

  • @AhmadAlwasim
    @AhmadAlwasim Год назад

    Great talk

  • @shouryagoyal3373
    @shouryagoyal3373 4 года назад +4

    He is discouraging me... According to him you cannot overcome any addiction

    • @cmcc1442
      @cmcc1442 3 года назад +2

      False. You can, but don't expect it to be easy (at least when it comes to high doses of addictive drugs--many of these drugs have very legitimate uses in medicine, at reasonable (typically much lower) dosages, and in my opinion there is no reason to restrict properly-considered, appropriate medical uses of these same drugs for severe pain, ADD, depression, etc.). If your addiction is to something other than dopaminergic drugs, which produce far higher levels of dopamine than any 'natural' reward possibly can, then your problem isn't anywhere near as severe, and recovery will be much easier for you. -Cyrus

  • @chiragrachhoya5377
    @chiragrachhoya5377 Год назад

    simply explained

  • @wildedibles819
    @wildedibles819 4 года назад +18

    Thank you... I'm recovering opiate addict this explains how my brain was working... I wanted that opiate over food water shelter that's not just liking something... Who would choose video games over somewhere to live?

    • @FinalBoys1982
      @FinalBoys1982 4 года назад +6

      Wild Edibles I think current video games are highly addictive although I’m pretty sure not at the same level as heroine. I know people who lost friends, career, money and other things over some of the current games which are specifically designed to keep you hooked 24/7.

    • @wildedibles819
      @wildedibles819 4 года назад +3

      I would agree... If your loosing things or people you really care about over wanting a video game would also be an addiction... I got help for my opiate addiction b4 I died or ended up in jail.. I'm lucky I had the resources to help find out what's my whole health plan could be if I got the courage to try... Get up and not feed that addiction you wake up wanting it right away b4 anything else... You get dressed walk 20 mins in 40below weather to satisfy a craving... No so your not in so much pain you don't want to face life.... I can understand the addiction to video games but it's just not the same sometimes

    • @FinalBoys1982
      @FinalBoys1982 4 года назад +2

      Wild Edibles wow that’s so intense. I’ve never gotten there luckily but I have relatives who have. I congratulate you for being able to get out of that mess.

    • @wildedibles819
      @wildedibles819 4 года назад +2

      Thank you it's a new struggle every day I was ready to quit but could not do it on my own...

    • @FinalBoys1982
      @FinalBoys1982 4 года назад +4

      Wild Edibles I bet. Don’t give up. I recently stopped drinking for good. I tried many times before and failed but I finally figured that in order to have an effective change I had to get rid of all the negative people in my life and replace them with positive loving people. I hope you are doing the same. The quality of the people who surround I have a big impact on the quality of your life. 🙏

  • @drichfanoum6746
    @drichfanoum6746 3 года назад

    Holy just lookd for this bec. Of reddit. This should be more popular

  • @theobserver8357
    @theobserver8357 2 года назад

    it helps alot

  • @nikhilsrivastava1931
    @nikhilsrivastava1931 Год назад

    thanks

  • @TheBestChannelEverrr
    @TheBestChannelEverrr 2 года назад

    Where would I find the unedited full video?

  • @jasoncolap
    @jasoncolap 5 месяцев назад

    just wow

  • @ronaldosanimalio5826
    @ronaldosanimalio5826 4 года назад +11

    I love science so much, i cant believe research able to found this things , it is make sense now

  • @badwolf8112
    @badwolf8112 3 года назад +13

    measure the dopamine spikes of a video game playing World of Warcraft Classic, finding better items while leveling and from a raid. would be interesting to see how it fits on the graph.

  • @ADHDPatrick
    @ADHDPatrick 4 года назад +56

    The human brain is so weird. It's hard to be a human.

    • @khushwnt789
      @khushwnt789 4 года назад +3

      Exactly

    • @Acetyl53
      @Acetyl53 4 года назад +3

      The human concept is a tragedy.

    • @saffsuff
      @saffsuff 3 года назад +1

      Any suggestions? Lol

    • @Patrick-gf5xg
      @Patrick-gf5xg 3 года назад

      Stop trying.

    • @webdevop4794
      @webdevop4794 3 года назад +2

      Are you serious? try being a cat someday

  • @fishermanextrordinaire
    @fishermanextrordinaire 5 лет назад +22

    So very very interesting, and thank you.
    I have for several years now entertained the idea that somehow, addiction and it's most current model of understanding is the disease based model.
    Wasn't telling the entire story. And I fully believe that it is a challenge to not only the Brain (Body) but to our minds and spirits as well.
    I have several decades of experience with substance abuse, it's something that I have struggled with much.
    I have also had many successes and achieved a few things. I wouldn't however be as bold as to say I was a case of being a "functioning addict"
    And after watching this I believe that you have shone a light on some of the ???? areas.
    I see now that and I still do do to some extent which is seek the softer easier way to solve problems. To move through life in general. In relationships.
    All areas have been either attempted and passed partially. Solved or completed. Or if I found it not to my liking or too difficult, I simply avoided it or didn't participate, even to the extent of rewriting the existence or the value of such a thing into my belief system...
    So thank you, I am on a new journey and this includes along with the abstinence from mood or mind altering substances.
    A regimen of not exactly hard or entirely hugely lofty goals. But certainly putting a much increased level of exertion in to things that I have bypassed or that I have felt I may have disliked before. I an attempt to use this information you have graciously shared, to somehow integrate this aspect of addiction into a program of some sort in an effort to assist other recovering addicts to alleviate their suffering.
    I feel slightly more at ease to go through the difficult and seemingly random cravings, already, just knowing that this may have been set up chemically in my brain and that, along with my own personal experience, they do pass and that my life IS far better lived without the use of drugs...

  • @davidmerwitz6564
    @davidmerwitz6564 4 года назад +4

    Wait until you get pd.I wonder what the story will be then?

  • @JZGreengo
    @JZGreengo 2 года назад +4

    So how would you solve this issue? Reinforce normal behaviors by scheduling a productive routine that encourages the body and mind to seek out food and working out in place of the drug? I often use coffee and sometimes 1mg of nicotine and I’m not sure if I’m addicted but it’s certainly helped me to reinforce better habits such a social connections and motivation. I don’t know if I an addiction or if I’m just using therapeutic doses of both substances to feel slightly better

    • @yowspisaac6113
      @yowspisaac6113 2 года назад +1

      I smoke weed everyday, and the rare, few times where I wanted to, like you said, reinforce the behavior by scheduling it. I find myself breaking the schedule every time. Which ultimately makes me feel defeated, now that i’m a couple days sober.

  • @dylanperalez3939
    @dylanperalez3939 3 года назад +12

    I’m eating a cheeseburger as I watch this

    • @sundeutsch
      @sundeutsch 2 года назад

      Very soon you will be addicted to it, please don't misunderstand me.

  • @ajinkyagaikwad26
    @ajinkyagaikwad26 2 года назад +2

    I think it is like the ( DMU ) Law of Economics - Diminishing Marginal Utility

  • @heiditaylor6206
    @heiditaylor6206 Год назад +2

    What about taking l tyrosine? I suffer from bipolar and no medicine has helped for motivation at all. I’m 48. Had this since 17. Been through every med you can possibly imagine except stimulants which my doc says wouldn’t help anyway. I say “all” meds like Lithium (burnt out my kidneys) Lamictal (which I take now since 17) and have tried all SSRI’s, SNRI’s, Bupropion, Wellbutrin, Geodon and their same types, and maybe some others. (No tricyclics-never suggested) I’m so sick of the non motivation/depression, mostly non motivation I could just die. Caffeine is the only thing that helps. But can’t do so much or sleep is hard, muscle twitches w high doses too. I hear L-Tyrosine helps for motivation????? Increases Dopamine???? Appreciate insight here!!

  • @geraldlewis1133
    @geraldlewis1133 3 года назад +3

    God help 🙏

  • @azumanguy
    @azumanguy 11 месяцев назад +1

    This talk made me realize that I really want a cheeseburger right now
    edit: seriously this is a great talk though. Very insightful

  • @tamnos
    @tamnos 4 года назад +1

    What about antidepressants?

  • @indrajeetshinde7872
    @indrajeetshinde7872 4 года назад +23

    One word: "Cheeseburger"

  • @oliviahuntington8577
    @oliviahuntington8577 2 года назад +1

    Addiction is NOT a moral crisis but a BIOLOGICAL one.....wow

  • @chaniem.5422
    @chaniem.5422 Год назад +1

    I guess I'm able to theories that it's possible to make your dopamine tolerance so low that you could get yourself addicted to any lifestyle you'd want

  • @thepotentguy
    @thepotentguy 3 года назад +1

    Ah this explains organisms perfectly

  • @siyabongaskhosana7782
    @siyabongaskhosana7782 3 года назад +4

    Do endorphins reduce stress and anxiety tolerance?
    I get big headaches if a don't masterbate enough or don't get happy.
    I don't have an urge to do much of that when I feel good. When I'm not stressed. It's tough for me to deal with tough situations.
    I don't even know if I'm addicted or not

  • @Mylifeizamovie
    @Mylifeizamovie Год назад

    I could be wrong but it seems that operating with high levels of dopamine helps with manifesting

  • @odedwolff3878
    @odedwolff3878 5 лет назад +9

    but isn't reinforcement go on even for predicted rewards? i mean, it this is basically what "reinforcement" mean, right? but besides that, it makes sense statistically

    • @cmcc1442
      @cmcc1442 9 месяцев назад

      It does, but in declining degrees, until the new behavior is fully established. If a 'reward' is 100% predicted, then dopamine does not respond. Anything more (surprising) or less (disappointing) provokes an increase or decrease in dopamine release, respectively. The important thing is that "reinforcement" and "reward" are very different words, with very different meanings. "Reward" refers to a subjective experience, whereas "reinforcement" refers to an observed behavioral phenomenon. "Reinforcement" means, simply, that the outcome of a behavior increases the probability that that behavior will occur again in the future. Nothing more; nothing less. That's the real, objective statistical view. There's no *subjective* emotional experience or awareness of one's own motivational state implied by the definition of "reinforcement"--reinforcement and reward are in fact independent processes. That's exactly the disconnect in 'common-sense' thinking about "why we do what we do" that I'm attempting to shine a light on here.

  • @HappyHoverboard-lz9wq
    @HappyHoverboard-lz9wq 13 дней назад

    Artist/ War On Drugs
    Song/ Pain

  • @dhanireddy2113
    @dhanireddy2113 2 года назад +1

    An unexpected cheeseburger gives you dopamine

  • @kitanotenshi
    @kitanotenshi 8 дней назад

    Wrong question. The right one is "how many of you want to check your smart phones right now and how many are actually scrolling social media right now"

  • @kupamanduka9218
    @kupamanduka9218 Год назад +3

    I have a question, the dopamine is only creating anticipation of pleasure and not on consumption of the substance but than what is creating the next craving, what is keeping the loop from not going extinct?
    Is the dopamine anticipation from previous drug use, creating the next instance of drug use and keeping the addiction loop alive?

  • @1sanremy
    @1sanremy Год назад

    Addiction also have EPIGENETIC factor needing some long reprogramming. Hard but possible.

  • @TiffanyWest-mk4fr
    @TiffanyWest-mk4fr 7 месяцев назад

    Our brains tell us we need something to feel better so severe that its torture mentally and physically we will do anything to get releif! U can put us in jail and when we get out the symptoms will still be there! Why casey law doesnt work! And why love compassion and empathy does! Support and educate yourselves and stop playing the victim if a addict offended you!

  • @wellhellothere8854
    @wellhellothere8854 3 года назад +3

    I’m trying to come off a 10 year daily oxy habit of 100mg+ a day
    I’m on day two and can’t move oh man everything hurts

    • @cmcc1442
      @cmcc1442 3 года назад +1

      Keep going! It will get easier the longer you go, but you will need your self control, and need to think about what you're doing, for a longer time than you might subjectively feel is necessary. Staying away from whatever aspects of your environment that might be associated with using, as much as possible and for as long as possible, will be helpful. The research tells us very clearly that a simple change of context (i.e. your everyday physical and social surroundings) is one of the most powerful mechanisms for preventing relapse. Whenever possible, take a trusted never-/non-user friend with you when you need to visit a place where you've obtained or used in the past. If you used at home, consider making some changes to your home's internal/external appearance--whatever changes you can make, even if it means just moving the furniture around, will minimize environmental cues or 'constellations of cues' that could trigger cravings/seeking behaviors. It will take time, but you'll be better off in the end, and you will be able to enjoy everyday life again, as much as you did before. I wish you well. -Cyrus

    • @markgravelle4333
      @markgravelle4333 2 года назад

      You got this. I’ve been there many times. Stay strong. This is the time you beat this monster.

  • @Mrdegaulle1
    @Mrdegaulle1 4 года назад +1

    my grand papa isnt a dopamine junkie and isnt unsucessfull at succeeding in what he needs. its just called depression when you let go your brain and it take control over you.

  • @robertbrown5167
    @robertbrown5167 4 года назад +4

    I might be missing some insight from this talk because it seemed like he just said the most obvious things about addiction. Maybe these are just things which elude normal folk yet are axiomatic for me after decades of poly-drug addiction though tbf.

    • @MagicToadSlime
      @MagicToadSlime 4 года назад +4

      Yes that's the idea behind the talk. Most people will never understand addiction yet they go about acting as judge, jury, and executioner as if they did

  • @TheRedverb
    @TheRedverb 4 года назад +2

    This guy sounds like Joe Pera.

  • @sanskaragarwal4064
    @sanskaragarwal4064 3 года назад +1

    7:46
    8:40

  • @ovidiuciobica2812
    @ovidiuciobica2812 Год назад

    Stimulating dopamine fast and easy with at least 30% in less than 30 minutes
    1. Pick your current level of dopamine, from 1 to 10 (Eg: 3)
    2. Make a list of 3 to 5 activities that you are most passionate or interested on
    3. Pick one that is easiest and fastest to do (30 minutes, at most)
    4. Do it ASAP
    5. Observe your current level of dopamine and write it down.
    Does it have at least 3 more points than the previous? (Eg if before it was 3, now it should be least 6)

    • @cmcc1442
      @cmcc1442 9 месяцев назад

      #5 is problematic. How can you tell?

  • @tomjones6944
    @tomjones6944 3 года назад +1

    I'm not sure if it's me, but the editing makes this really hard to watch (the camera switches where it makes it seem like they've cut out things?)

    • @cmcc1442
      @cmcc1442 3 года назад

      My bad. I took about 15mins, and spoke too-slowly. They cut out very little, and nothing of meaning other than me repeating myself for emphasis. I hope this sped-up version is still helpful. -Cyrus

  • @JC-jr9hw
    @JC-jr9hw Месяц назад

    I’m not sure he gives the cheeseburger enough credit…I would say cooked food is maybe the most powerful ubiquitous drug. I’m sure that sounds crazy to anyone not familiar with the book 80/10/10 Read it to learn more.

  • @josephmalter670
    @josephmalter670 2 года назад

    Joe Perra talks to you about addiction.

  • @ankitshrivastava3672
    @ankitshrivastava3672 3 года назад

    How can get morphine, i don't know any supplier near my home

  • @angelwhite4025
    @angelwhite4025 4 года назад +3

    meanwhile I want a hot pot now. Liking and wanting.

    • @narekhart9862
      @narekhart9862 4 года назад

      Meanwhile i get this cold sensation ill nevr be happy again

  • @hanskraut2018
    @hanskraut2018 11 месяцев назад

    True its totally ignored or strawmanned by people dont caring if it does not affect ther healthy lifestyle 0 compassion just more violence as a solution. I mean psychaitry finetuning/tiltration is terrible and drugs are just taken for selfmedication and taking them away might make things worse for some (speculation) which would make it even more ironic

  • @MackHendrix14
    @MackHendrix14 4 года назад +2

    Does dopamine ever fix itself? How long until it does?

    • @myroninthesky320
      @myroninthesky320 4 года назад +1

      Our body is a powerful machine. Everything does fix itself

    • @3mparchangel357
      @3mparchangel357 4 года назад +2

      dopmine detox look it up

    • @lightbeingpontifex
      @lightbeingpontifex 3 года назад

      Natural dopamine in your brain fixes itself meth addiction your brain is powerless to fix it,,,

  • @Trabajoprogresoyconocimiento
    @Trabajoprogresoyconocimiento Год назад

    What about antipsychotics?

  • @HappyHoverboard-lz9wq
    @HappyHoverboard-lz9wq 13 дней назад

    Artist/ Shinedown
    Song/ Save Me
    chronic pain
    14 years opiates
    Medical society just stop
    Thank God medical books survival

  • @wICKEDeL1
    @wICKEDeL1 5 лет назад +14

    🤷🏼‍♀️ So how do we fix it??

    • @MagisterialVoyager
      @MagisterialVoyager 5 лет назад +2

      Drug rehabilitation centre, I suppose?

    • @PriestBeats
      @PriestBeats 4 года назад +4

      Letisia Andablo he said a sophisticated answer was needed, meaning one should use the knowledge presented to understand and counteract drug abuse,
      In his main message he states that drug addiction prevention and rehabilitation is connected to a moral viewpoint and judgement of an individual, prone to drug abuse, whereas the truth is that it is a biological fault which cannot be connected to the human.( obviously I feel it differs from person to person, but I agree on the point that a preassumed negative opinion based on a societarian social standpoint, is wrong)

    • @charlesarthur1014
      @charlesarthur1014 4 года назад +1

      WTF???

    • @pinbartrader3583
      @pinbartrader3583 4 года назад +6

      Will power. Everything else is a gimmick.

    • @stefandejj
      @stefandejj 4 года назад +1

      dopamine detox

  • @AndyRoidEU
    @AndyRoidEU Год назад +1

    A question: how does dopamine (or the body part that releases it) know what we / the person find(s) enjoyable or good? What is assessing this?

  • @Acetyl53
    @Acetyl53 4 года назад +6

    Cell phones are actually physically addictive. Microwaves exposure alters multiple neurotransmitter systems, but in particular, acts upon the opioid system. Your endorphins and enkephalins. This is downstream of corticotropin releasing factor, downstream of it is cholinergic changes.
    Cell phones are not biologically inert.

    • @cadcc
      @cadcc 4 года назад +2

      Ay yes, the good ol strategy of say a bunch of big words hoping whoever reads this doesn't know better.

    • @Acetyl53
      @Acetyl53 4 года назад

      @@cadcc Why are you posting?

    • @Acetyl53
      @Acetyl53 4 года назад

      @@cadcc And to add, why aren't you making your case?

    • @YourMajesty143
      @YourMajesty143 2 года назад

      Opioids are not part of the neurotransmitter system, they're part of a much more complex system of peptides. It also seems you're relying on an old research experiment that studied the presence of endorphins and enkephalins in the brain tissue of dead rats, and the difference in the presence of those levels when decapitating the rats heads off vs cooking them in a microwave. The presence of endorphins and enkephalins were the result of an immune response to literal brain injury, from an extremely high dose of irradiation on a small animal. Microwave radiation from cell phones are fairly imperceptible, so to claim they're "physically addictive" is absurd. Cell phone towers emit even higher frequencies, and yet nobody is behaving in irrationally addictive ways to be close to these towers. I've never felt addicted to my microwave oven, my television set, or to the biggest microwave of them all: the sun. You essentially took the conclusion of very extreme conditions in a study, then projected and catastrophized this conclusion unto a generally benign object that does not in any way mimic or replicate the same conditions. It's also important to note that animal studies aren't reliable nor clinically relevant to human health, especially when scientists still struggle with the methodological problems of identification and quantitation of opiate-like markers.

  • @naman28feb
    @naman28feb Год назад

    Should music have a big role to making dopamine?

  • @theedge5584
    @theedge5584 9 месяцев назад +1

    IT KINDA TAKES A PSYCHOLOGIST THAT HAS BEEN THRO THE ADDICTION TO ACTUALLY KNOW HOW TO HELP OTHERS.......

  • @joeyjusticeco
    @joeyjusticeco 2 года назад

    Oh my god the jump cuts were annoying

  • @chrisbinns3392
    @chrisbinns3392 Год назад

    I really want a big surprise.

  • @jayachandranthampi4807
    @jayachandranthampi4807 Год назад

    When food is away (you need to spend energy) it will satisfy your Need. When food is near (minimal energy spent) it will shift to Want, than Need. So we try to satisfy Want than Need. That's drugs, addiction etc. Without Arjuna (Urges controlled through training the cortex), Krishna will keep on Giving....So, Gita was rather a guided revelation by Arjuna than a mere one sided discourse by Krishna. Krishna, the Dopamine (Mind) must be utilized by Arjuna (Trained, professional body), the defined Body. Finally, all Dharma (training) will give way to Karma (Reality). Then, only an Author can survive, not Owner. So, learn to Author than Owner.
    "Isha vasyam idam sarvam......." says, Isha vasya upanishad