George Christie Jr. on Why There are No People of Color in Hells Angels' U.S. Chapters (Part 5)
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2023
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The Wheels of Soul Motorcycle Club are a multiracial one-percenter outlaw motorcycle club. Although they are active nationwide in the United States (in addition to a chapter in Puerto Rico), they are primarily based out of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. With chapters in at least 25 states across the US, the group claims to be the country's largest mixed-race outlaw motorcycle club.
There is one guy that did an interview on RUclips and the title was something like "If a shot caller calls a shot on you" I don't really remember the name of the video but the guy was a former Green Beret in prison and he was a tough SOB. He beat up the guys that came for him and he eventfully beat up the shot caller. The shot caller thought the guy was crazy because he thought the guy wasn't afraid of being killed. I wish that I can find the video and watch it again.
@@7aldivine The Chosen Few are also mixed-race organizations.
I don't ride and not affiliated with no MCs just stating the facts: Back in the 70s my family was at the boat races in Lake Elsinore Ca. My oldest brother got lost and my parents were frantic. Lake Elsinore wasn't that big at the time and the police searched the area. He was found in a Hells Angels clubhouse playing pool. The Hells Angels found him crying by the main street and took him back to their clubhouse about a mile away.
great story they are just misunderstood angles lmfao
How old was your brother
@@shawnbillions1886 He was about 7 or 8 at the time...
@@shawnbillions1886 he was 27 😂
he was 28 🤣
"It is what it is." Well said!
Deep
RIP Tobie Gene Levingston, East Bay Dragons founder. 🙏🏾
Dude this was your best interview, just let them do the talking and guide as needed. Awesome.
@tonyvision
I saw a Black Hells Angel member in Md. Seems as if he knew the others since they were young or something. They were cool no problems.
That's because is wasn't Vlad doing the interview.
He answered that question perfectly.
I dated a girl whose father was an enforcer for the Hells Angels. She said he once tied a guy to a flagpole and would raise him and drop him repeatedly, each time raising him higher and higher. I decided our relationship just wouldn't work out.
Ok liar
Damn, seems like the risky move. You decided to break the girls heart? Seems like a guaranteed way to be on the flag pole.
😂
So how did you find the flagpole experience after you broke up with her?
That's why you are 99%, because you chose not to ride the pole, imagine what fun you could have.
When you're a man roaming this land, it's best to be alone because you're responsible for your actions. But when you're with a group and they commit a crime and get caught, you'll find out how loyal the crew really is. Especially when they have to save their own neck. That's going on as we speak. The system made it really easy to get away with being a criminal by turning into a snitch. Cold game.
Preach brother
Guilt by association, same thing applies to Costra Nostra and street gangs.
Speaking FACTS
Goodfellas
Or you just fo legal stuff and not do anything illegal 🤷
Once he began speaking about the California prison system, I already knew the answer was going to make a lot of sense.
Which in California goes back to the 50s when the Mexican Mafia began, Pegleg one importnat founding member was half Slovakian (white European) and made the connection Southsiders to the AB way back then. That’s the beginning of the racial beef that poured out onto the streets in California. It’s California history.
@@TheBlackmanIsGod I'm from LA so I'm fairly versed on that stuff but you're not lying.
@@citypopFM and they all vote democrat to this day
@@BLMacabGod, you people that bring politics into everything are so insufferable.
@berniebrosrpedos7488 the fact you think they vote is hilarious. There's a reason why your fuhrer says he loves the poorly educated. An you fit the description 100% lol
Of the non Vlad staff I can listen to this guy's voice the easiest. More from him please
Fax OG New Yorker right there.
He doesn’t say “football numbers” and ask self incriminating questions on 17 year old beefs so that’s a start
He’s trying to have a conversation Vlad just wants a sound bite. He’s not authentic at all ‘so I want to start at the beginning’ doesn’t even start his interviews with a genuine or original thought or feeling, purely business.
As long as the interviewer can say the word "herion" correctly, he could interview the Grand dragon of the KKK and I'd be intrigued. 😅
I just wish our people would stop trying to he included in everything. Let them have their own snd we have ours and go where we're excepted.
Say it again !!!!!!!!!!!
@@Foenem521 👑💪🏾
Please do so we dont have to hear yall cry and whine and claim racism when its not yalls way 😂
@@DrewMarino1995it's actually both ways tho... you notice white ppl have to be involved in every single black thing. Rock and Roll... no now it's ours... Hip Hop... now it's ours... Black Lives Matter no all lives matter... Black History Month wait we want our own month... I really feel like deep down white ppl still think they own Black ppl
@@atrain9610the irony is crazy 😂😂😂
He's telling the truth. If you read the book by Tobi Gene Livingston the founder and original of the east bay dragons he explains the same thing. The angels and the east bay dragons have a solid relationship and have for many many many years. Also the chosen few it's a integrated club but primarily black and they have a good relationship with the angels too.
You from Philly? You know there is dark skinned clubs right here in Pennsylvania? Or do you only watch discovery channel and report your findings?
@@Benjamin-jo4rf I'm from L.A. and idk what you mean by the rest of your comment. It makes absolutely no sense.
I know of a Black HA member in NYC. I would see him fully decked out wearing the vest in front of their clubhouse in the East Village
Sure he wasn’t the janitor?
Sure he wasn’t the delivery guy?
i have heard of him in NYC as well
One of my best friend's stepdad was fresh out and was a HA member. I didn't know anything about politics, I was about 13/14yo at the time (early/mid-90's). He was super cool with me every time I stayed over or hung out. Super hospitable and just a nice dude. This was in Sacramento/ EG.
There is a great book about the origins of The East Bay Dragons and Tobie Levingston titled "Soul in Bikes" that will really shed light in all this. Great read
Here in Australia the H.A’s have a good number of islander and middle eastern members and even when you hit prison you can either be with your race or club
Came here to post this.
This was a good interview. George Christie is a great subject and Vlad asked some good questions.
Vlad wasn't asking the questions,he not interviewing 😂
😮.
The Zulus MC are a Black 1%er club based in Cleveland OH, I used to see them riding around every so often
The Omens are based out of Ohio also.
I heard of them before
I had an Hells Angels friend. He wasn't racist at all but he said he could introduce us to a few members but the rest of them wasn't going for shit. There's is definitely validity to this
Only black people get critiqued for forming our own. Everu race thinks its ok for them but hate to see us do it. Drives them crazy
@@noartist2694 First and foremost the Hell's Angels not accepting non white members was DEFINITELY rooted in racism. And second you do know that most black neighborhoods aren't crime ridden right? Please tell me you know black people don't just live in the ghetto? You know that's the equivalent of saying all white neighborhoods are rich and crime free right? You're one of those"I'm not a racist" guys who follows that statement up immediately by saying something racist aren't you.
@@noartist2694 this is wild all black neighborhoods crime ridden? Hell i would not want to live anywhere hells angels live
@@elijaharvinger1178bullshit. The VAST majority of black neighborhoods ARE crime ridden shit holes, because you ppl care nothing about keeping the neighborhood nice and a place where children can grow up and families can live. It's literally, constantly, 'everything is white ppls fault '. It's nauseating and pitiful. Morning other group in America does this shit.
@@noartist2694 You mean Indians from India, right?
Good interview vario👍
I ran into a chosen few member in vegas once. Respect theyre a great club. Id talk to them too if possible. Keep the mc stuff coming.
You always showed respect for me and my family! Won't say too much but the tattoo parlor off the Avenue in Ventura!
My friend in CA went to the drunk tank. He stood in line to make a call. He saw an open phone and used it. A guy behind him told him that it was not his phone. It didnt register til the guy said there were different racial phones. He used the Mexicans. They threatened to beat him when lights went down. Thankfully he got bailed before.
@@louisi363 depends, drunk tank is free for all, level one and two, but a serious until will have designated phones.
@@louisi363you must’ve been at a station my guy cause segregation starts as soon as you enter LA county jail
every time i hear george christie speak, he always speak with wisdom, discernment, critical thinking, and authority
I've got a chubby
The California prison system is absolutely divided by racial lines. You will ride with your car. It’s just the way it is.
Did you hear this on RUclips lol everyone knows that thanks for the input
Its More then just the California system
Yep
California is a shxt hole of a state
@@antoniobrown411 thats not national at all. That's mostly in cali.
Wow he really detailed this,and broke it down..Makes sense
Great explanation about the color line,I never knew.
The outcast and thunder guards are two old school black outlaw clubs. That started in the 60s
LMAO @5:20 the Black Unicorns 😭😭🦄🦄🖤🖤
This interviewer has been doing good interviews
❤ great interview
The chosen few MC have been around for a while,they was in Michigan in the 70s and here he is talking about em still being around today
I went to a George Christie talk here in Ventura CA about 4 years ago. Very interesting. He talked how he did horrible in school because his attention was out the window. They had him take some test, not sure if it was SAT or not. He aced it. The principle brought him and his parents in and accused them of cheating because no one every aced the test before. But he did.
Everytime i hear this interviewers voice it reminds me of when they had joey torres on smh unclick 😅
Good interview
That was beautifully explained 👍🏽
George is the real deal! 👊🏼
I lived in Ventura the biggest HA chapter. He’s a legend in Ventura
Great interviewr ....hes got it now soory t criticize before but u got it brother good interview
Great Video.
He said they adapted the prison color lines, which is racist in itself then says they're not racist 😂😂😂😂.
you dont get it. you couldn't go to a Ca prison and run with different races you will end up dead.Prison gangs run the street gangs to some extant so it carries over. sure there are a couple of people that are white and bloods or something like that but they are normally total savages that have earned enough respect to do so. you also forget that all the races are also keeping it to their own and excluding people not of their race. there is even a group called the others for mixed or races to small to have their own deal. if whites and southern Mexicans are down you dont get to go changing up shit l because your woke or something. It's a violent criminal world not the Berkley campus wake up.
My boy Andrew is the VP of the Stockton Hells Angels Chapter and he is Thai/Laos. Rules have changed over the years.
How many Asians are part of the stockton chapter? Jw
I believe it. The local news in San Jose had 5 Hells Angels members arrested few months ago & one of the guys was Asian
@@MikeJ75 i think frenso, sf, daily city, sj and modesto all have a couple asians.
@@SidewaysBurnouts thank you for the info!! Appreciate it
@@MikeJ75 i forgot oakland, they were the first with san fran.
There is a Hell’s Angels chapter right in the middle of the hood on 22nd in Tampa, Fl.
The biker club was East Bay Dragons MC from Oakland the guy was Tobie Livingston
He answered thwt perfectly
The east bay dragons are legendary, they had them in snowfall when they went up to oakland
Great interviewer
Had The EastBay Dragons expanded outside of their 1 and only mother club they would have probably been the largest Black MC in the nation. Like he said The Dragons & HA function in the bay. Tobin & Sonny probably go way back to start. Tobie just never wanted to expand outside of the mother chapter. I always wondered why. They probably could have projected around the same scale.
might have kept the feds out of their hair, they dont have the history of being framed every few years by ambitious cops and attorneys like the angels.
Less variables
It’s like that up here in Cleveland Ohio.
Damn who you interviewing you or him u always find a way to tell your story
The Hells Angels were heavy in Bridgeport Ct back in the day I heard.
The philosophy 'never make an important decision based on emotion, base on logic' is common among those born right after WWII. I'd hear my dad cite that to me repeatedly growing up.
what is logic
@@qp4367 rational ponderance
This was one of your best interviews thus far. The more you remember to remove yourself from the interview, the more engaged, the interviewee will become example. Your uncle, being a member of the black unicorns was completely irrelevant detail when the question was really about his knowledge of any other black motorcycle clubs besides the black unicorns.
George is the epitome of cool. Fr!
Used to deliver the ADP payroll to the Hells Angels Club on East 3rd st. In Manhatran. They were always Cool. Always a dufferent guy everytime i went there.
East Bay Dragons!! RIP Uncle Green Eyes.
I have met mexican American Hells Angels. Look up George López funeral in Stockton ca. He was a Hells Angels in good standing.
Exactly, I know a few 81 who are chicanos out of Stockton. They even rock a patch that says “chicano”.
@YourBigHomieDancingBear it makes sense we run together in the California Prisons and County Jails.
@@MongoltheMaligator smh
@disneydoodles4353 shake your head. I don't give a fuck. Dumb ass
@@1Interloperthey lap dogs brotha and claim brown Pride 🤦🏾♂️ when we are the true brown peoples lol everybody ain’t built like US 💪🏾
Well said !
Cousin Billy be Wilding
The questions some people ask...
I've always wondered what the division was.. this answered everything
Makes a lot of sense!
My old neighbor is a member…Super Cool dude
VERY well said. In the MC community as well as everyday life, have a VERY large quantity of paranoia, but do it with common sense and facts. NOT emotions. Those are the guys that seem to still be alive to tell the old stories. Just sayin! Lol.
brotherhood is brotherhood no matter the color but there’s a small amount who don’t believe that
Facts. Some of the guys who showed me the way into the biker community were white guys, former and current Outlaws at that. And I myself am black.
WELL SAID
going along with what he said in the beginning about making a point of only telling one person a certain bit of info I have a similar story…. Mine actually happened by accident, when I was 17 I was indicted for conspiracy to distribute LSD and during one of the meetings meeting with the prosecutor I heard him say the arrangement was for me to give somebody $175 to go to Florida to get the LSD and I instantly figured out who the snitch was because I had only told one person that number…
I knew an HA in Sacramento that was half Native American. He worked out at a gym on Franklin Blvd, back in the 1980s. He was smart as a whip, and strong as a bull.
I used to work with a old guy from HA. I asked him what’s was the craziest thing he did in the club? He told me he doggy style a girl on his motorcycle while riding it down the highway lol
Dude a real one fa shoutin out the East Bay Dragons
“ I use to rock the mic at Hot Lips house or at the East Bay Dragons spot.All the 85 boys throw your hands in the air screaming Too Short just don’t stop “
Even the local high school is what I heard as far as different groups
South Park hit the nail on the head
Shout out them East Bay Dragons. 🎱👌🏼💯
They should do an interview with them that would be Dope asf
Lol he shouted out the opps😂😂😂
Shit I’m from Cleveland and two blocks away from the Hells Angels Headquarters is The Zulus Club who are an all black MC and they get along fine! They’re literally only 2 blocks apart from eachother
My city, Warren, Ohio, is the home of Brothers of the Hammer. One of America's first and oldest All Black MC's - they go back to the late 50's, 60's
You should've asked him about his relationship with Von Dutch.
My friends dad was a HA back in the day (70s) and he was Mexican he showed me the cut.
I have seen HA guys in San Francisco who were Samoan and Filipino
How could he forget the all black Wheels of Soul who have been around since 1967 out of Philly… Their patch even looks similar to hells angles
Wheels Of Soul are not all black.
Because that's philly he's from California you're not gonna know about something on the other side of the country especially back in his days
Wos is not all black
“The black unicorns” 😂 might as well be the “hells fairy’s, or the pink kitty cats” 😂
Did you know them?
OUTCAST OUTCAST OUTCAST, 38 -40 chapters mainly based in the southeast.
Support 81 nothing like old school gangsters 💯
What about the Wheels of Soul!!??🤦🏿♂️
I find the prison racial lines difficult to understand. It's inmates against guards - that should be the divide. I believe the system itself has figured out how to socially engineer the racial lines in prison just to keep the inmates turned against each other rather than banded together against the guards.
It wouldnt be in the benefit of anyone to team up against the guards. The guards bring in the contraband and they can make your life hell.
My uncle Al was in the hells angels San Jose chapter …. He passed away years ago from cancer.
The black unicorns? What?🤣🤣
China man Phil, I remember in my neighborhood we had a guy called filipino mike. I wonder if anybody could guess his nationality
I've never experienced prejudice in the MC 🌎
Black people not being able to join Hells Angels is prejudice by definition.
@@clarencejones8180 and not having comprehension skills is a waste of a comment. I can tell you're a fake intellectual, it was black hells angels and still is, the man just said that and also you're not in this 🌎 because you wouldn't have made a comment solely based on feelings and no facts
Hell’s Angels members are not racist. My family has been very close to some Angels
Some chapters were though and really only changed that after several Mexican clubs came around such as Bandidos, Vagos, and the Mongols.
thats a story the off brands have profited from. angels never denied based on race, the mongols stared off wearing bogus angels cuts and had them taken away from them. they also didnt become the mongols until a snitch from witness protection who told on the angels got them all jazzed up to fight his battles for him. vagos were an angels puppet club until around the year 2000. bandidos are bad dudes and i got no dirt to throw on them. @@alexander1902
I talked to a Native American girl from California, who told me her uncle was a member of the hells angels. I am a hells angels supporter, thats how that topic came up
The only black full patch Hells member is Greg Wooley from the Montreal Quebec Chapter. He's was their explosives expert.
There's black members in Europe. Not many but they exist.
My dad was Puerto Rican, in the 70's & 80's in Oakland he did business with the Oakland chapter of the Hells Angels. Dope, guns etc...my dad was a big time booster too, he sold them a lot of power tools etc since a lot of them were in construction at the time.
When my dad got popped the Hells Angels put up his bail, it was $10K thats a lot of money at the time and he didnt screw them on it, he turned himself in and did the time. I remember spending a 4th of July at that club and watching them do fireworks when i was little.
Stop lying
Bullshit storyline....
My Uncle is a former member and would never talk such crap.....
When did Oakland chapter arrive in Australia ?
Yankee living in Australia 🌏🦘
You would know my cousin who was kidnapped by the Fed's...
Before you say it's a lie ,look it up and I won't give any names....
Go find the information
@@Hurya8666 never that, lie for what?
@@ChoneyPony cap wetback
I dont even understand how thats a question
I used go camping in 1970's Kern River yes dude is right about 1/4 of mile you see all the bikes and around midnight all kinds of gun noise AKA gunshots
Im from Halifax Nova Scotia and grew up with the HA local and present !! There was far less crime when i grew up than today without the HA being present !! The petty crimes and stabbings and theft are rampant here .
who do you think are bringing the guns in canada
NOT THE HA !! not for selling ! only for their own possession, Very rarely HA has collateral damage ! If your targeted by HA, you deserve what you get ! Unlike our own govt targeting hard working tax paying Canadians by insulting us with no money for HEALTH CARE but billions FOR A WAR NO ONE WANTS ! @@rollingthunder8223
Being from the Oakland, he explains this well in a short time. The prison politics dictate the streets to a point.
However, in the streets, the HA's are not out doing racist things. The guys from San Francisco chapter, Richmond chapter etc come up with black dudes as in the Bay us working class grow up together regardless of color.
Been wondering this for 25 years 🤔
This isn’t true.
Christie is a Marine? Semper Fi.
You gotta interview Big Caz from The Chosen Few
i seen him on youtube he’s no longer with them he joined another club out of arizona but yea that would be a dope interview