Couldn’t agree more. This is a game of acquiring. When that trust is broken, when the game can claw back items, rss or anything based on a bogus “minor hiccup”… where does that leave us as players and supporters of the game? We purchase in game content with real money and the fact that they can take any or all of that away without explanation or recourse is insane. This game has generated hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars over the past few years. For them to consider their base of players as expendable on a scale of this magnitude, that doesn’t site well with me. And I’m sure most players would agree with me. I’ve now decided to NOT spend any additional money on the game until i hear back from VIP chat on how they will rectify what they took, compensate for the heartache, and fix this for the foreseeable future. Sorry about the long comment. Thank you, Chisgule, for bringing light to this issue on your platform.
They will compensate you with 300 gems 1 gold key 100 silver keys and a 3hr speedup 🤣🤣🤣 you know how they work, youll be lucky to get that in their opinion
I am not an expert and have no knowledge how other game developers deal with the issue, but I fail to believe that other games are not targeted by users that may wish to use bots? How do these other games & developers deal with the issue? Many months ago we were informed that the limit on the amount of alliance helps a player can receive was put in place to combat bot use. Since then, the extent of Liliths work to deal with bots travelled as far as changing the graphic of the items used in the verification process. Given the huge revenues that Lilith receive from in-game purchase, why have they failed to implement an appropriate anti-bot program. Lilith must shoulder the blame on this. Their lack of action, and when they do eventually act, we are told of 'minor hiccups' has lead to huge loss of trust amongst the community at a time when, in my opinion, Lilith should really being doing its utmost to be seen to be working with the long-standing community of ROK as its popularity is dissipating.
And how dare they call it “minor hiccup”?! If I get negative resources at pass open it is an apocalyptic event for me. I don't care how many cents Lilith clawed back.
This happened to multiple players prior to pass 4 opening. The players that were penalized had received resources from our kingdom bank and were T5 players being reimbursed for fighting already done. All players had resources removed and were in negative. Many are talking about quitting and I refuse to spend any further.
i am so glad that i quit this trash game..amazing ideea game but from what they doing now..it's a fk garbage..they will fall in few months..will be fked because of this arrogance
I just shared this in my kvk coalition chat. I also shared a "summer patch updates" video you did back in August last year to kvk coalition chat. It should be noted, it did not flag the player SHARING the resources, only those who RECEIVED those resources
Thank you Chis! NVM the haters. This situation once again highlights the absolutely broken economy in this game. Lilith creates a broken system, some people exploit it and now we all have to pay for the mess LILITH created. Players shouldn’t need 10 farm accounts in order to be remotely competitive, it is not enjoyable. Either 10x rss nodes or -10x hospital bills.
Absolutely correct people need billions ontop of billions in rrs to play in kvk and thats if you are high powered account good equipment just to achieve their 25 million or 30 million kp of opposition side.if you are lower spending with not as good commanders and equipment well you need mega billions in kvk. This system has always been broken unless you are willing to mortgage your house to get rrs 🤣 Playing a mobile game that requires a large majority of players to have 2 to 10 farms is becoming ridiculous
I’m 27M player but I’m a fighter I go all out during kvk… and it cost me at least 3-4b rss to do that and have decent kill points … how the heck I can get that many rss in one acc if I don’t transfer or plunder rss? Buy them in bundle that’s the Lilith answer… crazy and greedy fvckers
Most don’t understand that he can’t just publish anything he wishes. The videos have to be thoughtful and well narrated with non-questionable information. After all he is sponsored and there is guidelines to follow to satisfy that sponsorship. Thank you Chis for bringing such information to the community, it’s just sad that the anger is channeled towards you for their issues related with the game.
In my kingdom, I am responsible for the bank account. And we were rewarding our fighters based on the DKP system (this is how we analyze our members' performance). I sent approximately 5B to my members and ALL of them had their resources confiscated...Lilith urgently needs to return the resources to the ones who are innocent!
I got some RSS from the Kingdom bank 3 days before KL. The day after got the same mail as everybody else. Was not able to play in kl because of that. Ty chisgule for doing this video
Honestly, The fact that this has to be a question on if it is safe to transfer and plunder resources is inherently a problem for this game. It means players are now feeling more cornered into the idea of only buying RSS from the store as you don't want to risk your farm transferring RSS all of sudden crippling your own internal economy. This makes this game's environment feel less and less hospitable by even dolphins like me who use farm accounts to prevent ever buying resources but spend on things like hammer events. I have to reconsider any spending now as I greatly fear they are going to use this crackdown to justify bringing down the transfer RSS system, cause it has never benefited them, and we have seen them want to essentially remove it in the past. This will cripple someone who isn't dropping huge sums to play to be able to fight for any period of time. Their apology is beyond insufficient and this crackdown regardless of how you feel about RSS selling is abysmal. I'm in your restarts KVK and literally stopped fighting in the altar because I was too scared to have my farm transfer RSS to me.
Didn't know dophin is a term in games. I'm a dolphin as well if what you explained is accurate xD I too sustain my main's fighting needs with a bunch of alts farming rss. Interesting stuff
They did this to 3 out of 4 camps in our kvk right before kl opening...imagine how badly that hindered everyone. Lilith needs to really make this up to the hundreds of us that were cost any chance of winning kvk because of this
@@stupidthings1000 if they'd cheated, I'd be the first to say they had it coming, but they did this to hundreds of players in our kvk. No chance they're all cheaters. Retreat to mummy's basement now.
I transferred about 400m rss with 3 farm to my main last weekend and had no problem doing it , but I also saw people having this problem with only 20-30m rss which is weird
The way Lilith deals with things like that is just unreal in my opinion. Iam very sure that the bot/cheater problem can´t be solved easily, but it´s always us fair players that get punished for it. Bot´s are used for helps.. we reduce the helps for healing for everyone etc. and now this! There is an "Notice Board" in your city which has an "Anti-Cheat Update" Page .. but guess what .. the last update was at 2021/8/11 09:41. Why Lilith does not inform us about a new system that is created to hunt down cheaters? Even if it was a strategy to delay the information to make it harder for the cheaters.. it´s always us getting punished.. It would have been soooo much nicer to be informed about a system that may also catch innocent people. At least people would have known. And the worst part is that even if the innocent people get their stuff back now ... how Lilith wants to give them back the momentum? Like if you got punished while you had a big fight ahead.. Lilith tries to get rid of a one problem but causes a very impactful damage to the players during that.. Breaking our trust, punishing their loyal and honest players and in some cases even shift the outcome of a kvk! Iam soo sooo sorry for everyone that got punished for just playing the game.. and even invest money into crystal tech or other stuff just to prepare for kvk. Sorry Lilith but you messed up a lot this time. And I doubt that it is enough to just give Governors their rss back. Thanks for the videos Chisgule!
@@jonaorange2251 I guess you kinda missunderstood, I never used bots and I also understand why they implemented the help limit. But as I said.. the first step is always to punish everyone and then they see if they can adjust it in some way.
I just did a test on the 10M stone claim. I transferred 30M ress from a farm to a month-old account, no response. Perhaps there are other variables, and I'm sure there are, but the claim of simply transferring 10M stone seems to be a misrepresentation
It happened to me 2 months ago i was transferring resources from my farms to my main 1 day before kvk map opened few hours later i had mails saying my main was banned for day "prohibited resources" and 2 of my farms were banned for 1 year, i contacted support and they said they can't unban me i also gave my gmails of my farms and that didn't help either and i still have these 2 farms banned after 2 months so idk how to prove you're innocent when you are..
If this is true then lilith legou is the real scammers, but like anything else in this game they dont answer to anyone and you have no higher ups to complain to. Rok needs to have a overseer to lodge complaints to
So, f2p player here. I have 8 farm accounts and after a looong time i finally started to transfer them to my main account because kvk is arround corner. Got in total like 2B each rss. Now everything is on negative. Like i waited and not get involved in any fight for 5 months and when i'm finally ready to fight, have a good load, its all on negative. At this point i am done with this game. Literally done. I don't care if i get my rss back after the review. I AM STUCK IN MY CITY. I will not spend any money for my 5 months work so Lilith can say: oh you are innocent. 3 years journey ended by some idiots. When i finally tought i would be relevant. From now on if i will ever come back to the game, i will probaly make 1 account for every new server. Play kvk1 and start over again. But for now, this game should sink. I ain't comming back, and i am pretty sure a lot of players will do the same. Unless i get 100M gems back for their mistake, i wish this game go down and never rise up again.
You are one of the best content makers in Rise of Kingdoms from my point of view, and I do not miss any video of you (even though I understand a little of what you are saying) and I hope that your content is translated into Arabic, it does not have to be a professional translation, the important thing is to get the idea 😅, thank you 🌹
Many of the affected players don't have vip support so they will most likely just get an automated answer and won't have a chance to get their resources back.
Thanks for sharing like always. I feel sorry for those players who were not cheating. I hope everything works out and your accounts are back on track. For those who are/were cheating, I hope your account suffers and is forced to pay back everything that was stolen.
This is exactly why I commented on your last video about hating rss sellers. It’s a guilty by association system. One noob in an alliance can buy illegal rss, donate some to the bank, and voila you now have an entire alliance that may have touched or received illegal rss without actually knowing. Purge all resource sellers from your kingdoms!!
Well you should purge and never allow those people to begin with. This isn’t rocket science. If your kingdom has shady rss sellers and cheaters running amok there is zero chance the king and those running the kingdom don’t know about it and who is doing it.
@@curtispavlovec pretty much every king and KD leadership ignores rss sellers or even encourages them by giving them a discord channel to communicate in or referring players to “trusted” sellers. I’m obviously very against it, but that’s what I’ve seen.
I'm extremely fearful for the current state of our favorite game. This is absolutely 1000% disheartening. I honestly don't know what to say or do. One things for sure, my spending has come to a stop. I have a main, a mini, and a brand new farm, I'm currently on my kingdoms list for placing in our current MGE, for my activity in our ending kvk. And I'm terrified to participate as I typically fund these events thru my mini via resource transfers so my main is always ready. Especially since our last kvk left us with an alliance full of traders who absolutely traded on our kingdom and assisted our enemies in breaking out of their z4 after our alliance locked them in and moved on to the next fight. I really hope this gets figured out. Another thing is, I received tons on donations from players in my kingdom who couldn't fight or felt their resources would be better used by a T5 player. And of course I'm not the only 1. Many players in my kingdom have been playing 3-3.5 years, I've just broke a year and some change. So they have accounts way stronger, and are way better players. Hopefully they figure this out. Super sketchy situation.
First of all, the only ABNORMALLY LARGE resources are the ones the game DOESN'T give you in the first place just to heal your troops to actually be able to fight in the game. This is probably why you have so many scammers and people who have already quit. I agree cheaters should be punished. Punish only the cheaters and stop going after anyone legally getting resources so they don't all up and quit. I have an even better idea: Make resources cheaper and easier to obtain, making the game more fun for everyone to play. This would be a better long term investment for Lilith to keep money flowing in. Otherwise, we're about to see more scammers and more quitters; especially if they don't put a quick stop to this guilty until proven innocent "hiccup". In the meantime, not only am I not plundering or asking for any more donations, I'm also not spending another dime on this game until they fix this.
I hope your KVK will be better than ours, I hope Lilith considers the players who spent 100's on crystal tech and had their whole KVK ruined because Lilith had a knee jerk reaction.
Whats even more concerning is that they have already ruined those people's kvk by the rrs clawback and if people that were unjustly targeted try to refund their money on crystal packages bought they'll be flagged as scammers 🤔
Also in Heroic Anthem Kingdom there is 100s in ours as well. And customer service just says do not use abnormal methods to get rss. Which none of us did.
We had a guy migrate into our kingdom and a lot of people gave him RSS. He got a message like that and Lillith held the RSS that was transferred to him.
UPDATE: I confirmed from an official Lilith support agent that the clawed back resources are ONLY the “abnormally acquired” resources - not the legit ones. I also asked her to take a deeper look into this problem as I myself have fallen “victim” to this warning message as I am completely innocent.
Does getting RSS from own farm now become illegal. I noticed that after recently transfer RSS from farm to main, the verification rewards being abnormally too frequent pop up...
Anyone criticising you for the recent videos about scams and now Lillith’s completely messed up way of trying to deal with scammers, is just showing that they literally don’t understand what’s happening and/or what you’re saying about it. It must be exhausting to deal with so many fools who fundamentally don’t know what they’re talking about while they criticise you. Stay strong brother, those of us that understand what’s happening and why you’re raising it, appreciate you.
This happened to me 3 days ago, I traded with a teammate and the next day I got the mail saying I’d received an abnormal amount of resources and they took them away from me, customer service have been useless and still not got my resources back!
the game does not follow the evolution of the players and the wars, it is mandatory that the players have at least 10 farm acc to be able to fight a few hours in a war. It's a shame you collect months to spend everything in a short time.
100% called this happening in the first video about this. that you could cripple an enemy with a honeypot trap this way. Or... if you get zeroed in KVK purely by bad game play, just refund your account and punish the victors. rough
If lilith continues like this, people will leave the game, we even send rss from our farm account than lilith will ban? sooner or later this game will be lonely.. no fight at kvk, all kingdoms will become ally, war and drought rss? lol 😂😂
Happened to me yesterday had a pass 7 few days ago and I had plundered rss not even that much maybe 100mill and I got it all took away and -100mill wood and -100mill gold. I don’t want to play anymore it put me in a horrible mood. My hospital is full...
I think it was probably just a poorly written algorithm for their new bot catching program like they said. The more shocking thing is people actually saying the scamming and refunding purchases en masse is akin to purchasing the packs legally...or worse when they say that scamming is not as bad as someone who spends their money the right way. I'm floored that people actually have these opinions. They have to be doing it for shock factor...they can't actually think that. I'm flabbergasted... Thanks for highlighting this and for showing Liliths response. I hope we can get back to our regularly scheduled Chisgule programming of getting value and smashing enemies.
Thanks man, appreciate you being real and sharing all the info. It amazes me how much people will accuse everyone from Lilith to you for just running your business. Is it always perfect? Probably not. However, Lilith makes a game that we choose to play for fun. You make videos that are entertaining and help us as a community have more fun. So from the other side…thanks and keep up the good work mate :)
Hi Chisgule, sorry to have to contact you but I’m having serious issues with Lilith and this resource claw back nonsense they are doing, I watched your video a few days ago and it looked promising that they would resolve our problems. However they just keep telling me that I’ve received abnormal resources! They confirmed I received abnormal transfers from 3 accounts (alliance members) and gave me there IDs, I then sent back proof of trade deals I set up with these 3 players both through DMs and me actually returning resources back! I’m at a total loss, not only did I lose the resources I sent to my teammates but also the ones they removed from me
Any update on this video I've just started the game again and about to start kvk 1 I have 6 farms I don't want to get banned for trying to play mid spending
I just want to thank you for everything you do and everything you’ve done for this game. No matter how good your intent is…………………….. Haters gonna hate! that’s just the way it is
I got this message before even before they made this announcement. A buddy sent me 2b of each rrs he was banned and they only took the rrs from me. So idk I’ll have to Contact customer service and see if I can donate all my resources since I’m about to migrate out of the kingdom I don’t want to get slapped with the penalty and hate myself for a few weeks.
Way I see it, they quickly created a bot to audit accounts, the bot wasn't the best programmed due to haste and they fixed it. It does suck, they should at least give something to those unfairly targeted that contact them and move on.
The fact is ..even if this happens to me ..and i am afraid it might because i transfered few bill of rss last few days and our pass is opening tommorow (same kvk as chis) ..i am sure i wouldnt be able to contact support..it was always bad and they responded after couple of days..but now you dont even get the respond.. in game ,facebook ..there is no way to get the answer (or you get automatic stupid one) unless you spend 10+ k dollars and got vip support..
i'm about to go into kvk. I have been grinding my 4 farms for over 2 months, without cheating in any way. I have 3-4 billion rss on them in total, and I don't know what to do.
I got warning for transferring rss from my seconed account , 3 months of collecting rss just gone. I contacted VIP customer service and they just replied we understand your frustration and that's it. I told them just stop this function in the game of transferring rss between accounts if you keep punishing everyone I told them I am high spender and today I am turning to F2P Congratulations Lilith
yeah me and my brother got this mail just after our kvk 1 finished neither of us have farms but during kvk had alot of resources sent to us by allies to continue fighting in the front lines.
Hey chisgule can we get a verification on the topic of if you plunder or swarm a city and they find out it is a bot or rrs sellers they are clawing back that also ?
In my Kingdom we lost about 15b Res and half of personal starting ress 3 hours before war... Lucky they give us bk our starting Res... Removed only 15b from bank....
My kvk is about to start and i have around 500m easch rss in my 4 farm accounts so it's about 6 to 7 billion rss. What will lilith do with me just thinking 🤔
What about the buying and selling off accounts and even kingdoms in Rok. Not hard for Lilith to find them when it’s so freely advertised on discord and Facebook. Never seen or heard Lilith do anything about it.
Hey there, i got 3 farm accounts which have tones of rss that i want to transfer to my main account, is it safe to transfer them or am I gonna be in trouble?
I never knew this until i saw this video..!! Me and some of our active alliance member looted 10 to 15 offline city, each with more than 5B rss. Never had this issue. I got almost 800M in total from that.😅😅
Weird someone sent me 100m food yes today for no reason at all and I’m a pretty new player so this is good for me and I have not reached level 5 idk what’s going on but Lilith did not take the rss from me for some reason
I have totally lost confidence in spending money in this game. This was the first time I really pushed to get the 30 mil kill goal. The response I received from Lilith was that I received an “abnormal amount of resource.” My response back was “Yes, I did because I am a kingdom fighter who spent and abnormal amount of money to max my crystal tech as a result I am doing an abnormal amount of fighting in KVK.” The game mechanics call for people to need an abnormal amount of rss to continue fighting during a kvk if Lilith does not want people receiving abnormal amounts of resources then they need to reduce the cost of healing and building troops during kvk. I have stopped my daily spending and demand an apology and my good name cleared. Funny thing is I know someone sent me 300m in stone which I don’t need, want, or use and I bought the “Special resource bundle from the in game shop up to the $9.99 special to days in a row only getting food. The resource that was “confiscated”. (Fraudulently stole) from me was food which was the one rss I was still low on to heal my hospital. No stone was touched. If they had taken the stone back I probably would not have even noticed. RIP to my excitement in getting 30 mil kills for the first time.
I received the same mail and many in my kingdoms also while I’m a f2p, hopefully it was just after KL fight but it’s still annoying when you have this message and negative rss
the sad truth now from a lot of posts that i am reading is the trust is gone (me included). Spenders are stopping spending as well in the thought of them banning accounts for getting resources from farm accounts and other alliance members.
How about me spending time in an alliance and then Lilith deciding it's time to get back the items claimed? Nonetheless the accounts that were buying gcs were later banned but how can I determine if the cheats I'm claiming are legit or not? This game has become a joke, rip
My farms got banned 365days for transferring a ton of resources before my Kvk too... My main acc as f2p got banned 3days and I'm really fc-up ... How could it be a nice game of experience if time to time things changes and getting worse 💔
Once i sent 700 m rss to someone in pre kvk training stage! The reason i did that was our rival started building acc in our kingdom and do hard trash talk and they were first at ore kvk stage we were second! They banned my acc for 3 days because they said u r seller! They took out all of the rss from that guy ! And it took me 3 days yelling from all of my kingdom till lilith bring back my acc and fun fact is they didn’t say apologize or give me daily gem or daily gh compensation i paied for them !
I was gonna send rss to main last night until I got a mail in discord last night to not too bc half my alliance got in negative bc of plundered or transferring rss to main from farms
The fundamental problem that all these resource issues stem from is its way to expensive to heal T5 for the average player i think its ludicrous that most T5 players need a farm or multiple just to barely have enough to field fight effectively
Kvk ruined day before kingsland// crystal investment wasted/ trust is gone/ how/when and what is a fair compensate for this bugg? Keep it lillith cause you cant fix this..
Lilith thinks people start buying bundles to get rss...but honestly that's not gonna happen. So many people thinking to stop playing rok...once people get other option no one can save Lilith.
If lilith continues to attack us honest players then it's time to leave rok I'm not a kraken but a whale and this makes me feel that it's time to stop giving them our money. Crystal tech was bad enough ND they are trying to fix it but this is the last straw, our alliance has a war bank for us to use in pass wars and kingsland so if they flag our war bank then we lose our hard earned farmed and plundered rss.
Not to mention that they also have the GALL to tax the rrs you send to the bank then tax it again when sent to players.the taxing of sending rrs to friends is also a joke
My advise if we all stop spending and freez all the activities they simply will stop what they are doing. I hope players listen to this point. They gonna respond to us in that situation.
Resource stockpile in a city should have a limit. Plunderable or non plunderable, you cannot have a city technically that can hold unlimited rss. May me a new building called warehouse to enhance the rss holding limits in your city
I transferred upto 200 Million rss from my farm and didn't got flagged. The only different thing I did from.others who got flagged was I transferred slowly and didn't spammed endlessly for fadt transfer
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Couldn’t agree more. This is a game of acquiring. When that trust is broken, when the game can claw back items, rss or anything based on a bogus “minor hiccup”… where does that leave us as players and supporters of the game? We purchase in game content with real money and the fact that they can take any or all of that away without explanation or recourse is insane. This game has generated hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars over the past few years. For them to consider their base of players as expendable on a scale of this magnitude, that doesn’t site well with me. And I’m sure most players would agree with me. I’ve now decided to NOT spend any additional money on the game until i hear back from VIP chat on how they will rectify what they took, compensate for the heartache, and fix this for the foreseeable future. Sorry about the long comment. Thank you, Chisgule, for bringing light to this issue on your platform.
They will compensate you with 300 gems 1 gold key 100 silver keys and a 3hr speedup 🤣🤣🤣 you know how they work, youll be lucky to get that in their opinion
Cheaters/scammers will do anything to get out of the situation, like Chisuge said 🌝
I am not an expert and have no knowledge how other game developers deal with the issue, but I fail to believe that other games are not targeted by users that may wish to use bots? How do these other games & developers deal with the issue?
Many months ago we were informed that the limit on the amount of alliance helps a player can receive was put in place to combat bot use. Since then, the extent of Liliths work to deal with bots travelled as far as changing the graphic of the items used in the verification process. Given the huge revenues that Lilith receive from in-game purchase, why have they failed to implement an appropriate anti-bot program.
Lilith must shoulder the blame on this. Their lack of action, and when they do eventually act, we are told of 'minor hiccups' has lead to huge loss of trust amongst the community at a time when, in my opinion, Lilith should really being doing its utmost to be seen to be working with the long-standing community of ROK as its popularity is dissipating.
And how dare they call it “minor hiccup”?! If I get negative resources at pass open it is an apocalyptic event for me. I don't care how many cents Lilith clawed back.
Look at alll these cheaters crying cause they got busted 😂😂🤡
Teach them a lesson with money, stop spending until they cut this crap out.
You know that won't happen
And heroin addicts should stop buying drugs until prices come down.
That's how the game makes money they won't stop
I have cut my spending to RoK in the last few months, and now probably is the right time to stop altogether. Congratulation lilith 🤣
Yep
Same.
Same here!
In kvk with 1846 i'm gonna zero myself maybe and be done with this bs game ..!!
I stop spending like 1 year ago when I hit VIP 15 and just log in to collect 3 gold heads only thing I buy is monthly gem pack
This happened to multiple players prior to pass 4 opening. The players that were penalized had received resources from our kingdom bank and were T5 players being reimbursed for fighting already done. All players had resources removed and were in negative. Many are talking about quitting and I refuse to spend any further.
Same situation in our kvk
i am so glad that i quit this trash game..amazing ideea game but from what they doing now..it's a fk garbage..they will fall in few months..will be fked because of this arrogance
I was totally against all types of scam. But now Lilith is taking thing over board.
Taking anything away from an honest players us criminal
Theyre taking notes from the PRC. Guilty until proven innocent.
Lilith just stop. Your making things even worse
It's almost like Lilith is doing things without even thinking it all the way through. That shouldn't happen on such a big company. Embarrassing
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I just shared this in my kvk coalition chat. I also shared a "summer patch updates" video you did back in August last year to kvk coalition chat.
It should be noted, it did not flag the player SHARING the resources, only those who RECEIVED those resources
Guilty until proven innocent. That sounds very China of them. Next course of action is to apologize on national TV.
Then disappear for a couple of years or maybe forever 😂😂
Thank you Chis! NVM the haters.
This situation once again highlights the absolutely broken economy in this game. Lilith creates a broken system, some people exploit it and now we all have to pay for the mess LILITH created. Players shouldn’t need 10 farm accounts in order to be remotely competitive, it is not enjoyable. Either 10x rss nodes or -10x hospital bills.
Absolutely correct people need billions ontop of billions in rrs to play in kvk and thats if you are high powered account good equipment just to achieve their 25 million or 30 million kp of opposition side.if you are lower spending with not as good commanders and equipment well you need mega billions in kvk.
This system has always been broken unless you are willing to mortgage your house to get rrs 🤣
Playing a mobile game that requires a large majority of players to have 2 to 10 farms is becoming ridiculous
I’m 27M player but I’m a fighter I go all out during kvk… and it cost me at least 3-4b rss to do that and have decent kill points … how the heck I can get that many rss in one acc if I don’t transfer or plunder rss? Buy them in bundle that’s the Lilith answer… crazy and greedy fvckers
Most don’t understand that he can’t just publish anything he wishes. The videos have to be thoughtful and well narrated with non-questionable information. After all he is sponsored and there is guidelines to follow to satisfy that sponsorship. Thank you Chis for bringing such information to the community, it’s just sad that the anger is channeled towards you for their issues related with the game.
Its kinda of normal tho cause he's the messenger. So its not surprising 😐
In my kingdom, I am responsible for the bank account. And we were rewarding our fighters based on the DKP system (this is how we analyze our members' performance). I sent approximately 5B to my members and ALL of them had their resources confiscated...Lilith urgently needs to return the resources to the ones who are innocent!
I got some RSS from the Kingdom bank 3 days before KL. The day after got the same mail as everybody else. Was not able to play in kl because of that. Ty chisgule for doing this video
Honestly, The fact that this has to be a question on if it is safe to transfer and plunder resources is inherently a problem for this game. It means players are now feeling more cornered into the idea of only buying RSS from the store as you don't want to risk your farm transferring RSS all of sudden crippling your own internal economy. This makes this game's environment feel less and less hospitable by even dolphins like me who use farm accounts to prevent ever buying resources but spend on things like hammer events. I have to reconsider any spending now as I greatly fear they are going to use this crackdown to justify bringing down the transfer RSS system, cause it has never benefited them, and we have seen them want to essentially remove it in the past. This will cripple someone who isn't dropping huge sums to play to be able to fight for any period of time. Their apology is beyond insufficient and this crackdown regardless of how you feel about RSS selling is abysmal. I'm in your restarts KVK and literally stopped fighting in the altar because I was too scared to have my farm transfer RSS to me.
Notice when krakens and whales threaten to stop spending their ears perk up 🤣🤣🤣
Didn't know dophin is a term in games. I'm a dolphin as well if what you explained is accurate xD I too sustain my main's fighting needs with a bunch of alts farming rss. Interesting stuff
They did this to 3 out of 4 camps in our kvk right before kl opening...imagine how badly that hindered everyone. Lilith needs to really make this up to the hundreds of us that were cost any chance of winning kvk because of this
They maybe choosing sides in kvk now. May have nothing to do with resources actually 🤔
You will get 10 silver keys 1 gold key and 300 gems and a 3hr speedup for your inconvenience .you know how they work .😉
@@theodorelawrence7562 true.."we're sorry we screwed you over, hope this packet worth less than a $5 pack makes up for the lack of lube."
Welp, cheaters deserves that, deal with it 😎
@@stupidthings1000 if they'd cheated, I'd be the first to say they had it coming, but they did this to hundreds of players in our kvk. No chance they're all cheaters. Retreat to mummy's basement now.
I transferred about 400m rss with 3 farm to my main last weekend and had no problem doing it , but I also saw people having this problem with only 20-30m rss which is weird
Yeah but. Only 1 more account allowed in a kingdom. So in terms thats breaking the rule already there. Ive seen kingdom where players had 40+ farms
The way Lilith deals with things like that is just unreal in my opinion. Iam very sure that the bot/cheater problem can´t be solved easily, but it´s always us fair players that get punished for it. Bot´s are used for helps.. we reduce the helps for healing for everyone etc. and now this!
There is an "Notice Board" in your city which has an "Anti-Cheat Update" Page .. but guess what .. the last update was at 2021/8/11 09:41. Why Lilith does not inform us about a new system that is created to hunt down cheaters? Even if it was a strategy to delay the information to make it harder for the cheaters.. it´s always us getting punished.. It would have been soooo much nicer to be informed about a system that may also catch innocent people. At least people would have known.
And the worst part is that even if the innocent people get their stuff back now ... how Lilith wants to give them back the momentum? Like if you got punished while you had a big fight ahead..
Lilith tries to get rid of a one problem but causes a very impactful damage to the players during that..
Breaking our trust, punishing their loyal and honest players and in some cases even shift the outcome of a kvk!
Iam soo sooo sorry for everyone that got punished for just playing the game.. and even invest money into crystal tech or other stuff just to prepare for kvk.
Sorry Lilith but you messed up a lot this time. And I doubt that it is enough to just give Governors their rss back.
Thanks for the videos Chisgule!
But you aren't innocent, help spamming bots were why they introduced the terrible help limit. Also everyone knows you aren't allowed to bot.
@@jonaorange2251 I guess you kinda missunderstood, I never used bots and I also understand why they implemented the help limit. But as I said.. the first step is always to punish everyone and then they see if they can adjust it in some way.
@@DeusDarth @Darth Chriss oh I see what you mean now, I read as in you used bots for help.
@@jonaorange2251 Ahh good, my english isn´t the best aswell :D
I just did a test on the 10M stone claim. I transferred 30M ress from a farm to a month-old account, no response. Perhaps there are other variables, and I'm sure there are, but the claim of simply transferring 10M stone seems to be a misrepresentation
How can you cheat transferring rss when ROK force you to do antibot checks every half a dozen carts sent out!?
Glad I'm a f2p player.
It’s anti bot not cheat
Me too. And those verification are so freakin annoying.
It happened to me 2 months ago i was transferring resources from my farms to my main 1 day before kvk map opened few hours later i had mails saying my main was banned for day "prohibited resources" and 2 of my farms were banned for 1 year, i contacted support and they said they can't unban me i also gave my gmails of my farms and that didn't help either and i still have these 2 farms banned after 2 months so idk how to prove you're innocent when you are..
If this is true then lilith legou is the real scammers, but like anything else in this game they dont answer to anyone and you have no higher ups to complain to.
Rok needs to have a overseer to lodge complaints to
Were you using a simulator on those farms?
So, f2p player here. I have 8 farm accounts and after a looong time i finally started to transfer them to my main account because kvk is arround corner. Got in total like 2B each rss. Now everything is on negative. Like i waited and not get involved in any fight for 5 months and when i'm finally ready to fight, have a good load, its all on negative.
At this point i am done with this game. Literally done. I don't care if i get my rss back after the review. I AM STUCK IN MY CITY.
I will not spend any money for my 5 months work so Lilith can say: oh you are innocent.
3 years journey ended by some idiots. When i finally tought i would be relevant.
From now on if i will ever come back to the game, i will probaly make 1 account for every new server. Play kvk1 and start over again.
But for now, this game should sink.
I ain't comming back, and i am pretty sure a lot of players will do the same.
Unless i get 100M gems back for their mistake, i wish this game go down and never rise up again.
You are one of the best content makers in Rise of Kingdoms from my point of view, and I do not miss any video of you (even though I understand a little of what you are saying) and I hope that your content is translated into Arabic, it does not have to be a professional translation, the important thing is to get the idea 😅, thank you 🌹
Many of the affected players don't have vip support so they will most likely just get an automated answer and won't have a chance to get their resources back.
Thanks for sharing like always. I feel sorry for those players who were not cheating. I hope everything works out and your accounts are back on track.
For those who are/were cheating, I hope your account suffers and is forced to pay back everything that was stolen.
This is exactly why I commented on your last video about hating rss sellers. It’s a guilty by association system. One noob in an alliance can buy illegal rss, donate some to the bank, and voila you now have an entire alliance that may have touched or received illegal rss without actually knowing.
Purge all resource sellers from your kingdoms!!
Well you should purge and never allow those people to begin with. This isn’t rocket science. If your kingdom has shady rss sellers and cheaters running amok there is zero chance the king and those running the kingdom don’t know about it and who is doing it.
@@curtispavlovec pretty much every king and KD leadership ignores rss sellers or even encourages them by giving them a discord channel to communicate in or referring players to “trusted” sellers. I’m obviously very against it, but that’s what I’ve seen.
@@Thought_it_up Of course. My point is that everyone seems to pretend that no one knows this stuff is happening which is BS.
@@curtispavlovec facts
I'm extremely fearful for the current state of our favorite game. This is absolutely 1000% disheartening. I honestly don't know what to say or do. One things for sure, my spending has come to a stop. I have a main, a mini, and a brand new farm, I'm currently on my kingdoms list for placing in our current MGE, for my activity in our ending kvk. And I'm terrified to participate as I typically fund these events thru my mini via resource transfers so my main is always ready. Especially since our last kvk left us with an alliance full of traders who absolutely traded on our kingdom and assisted our enemies in breaking out of their z4 after our alliance locked them in and moved on to the next fight. I really hope this gets figured out. Another thing is, I received tons on donations from players in my kingdom who couldn't fight or felt their resources would be better used by a T5 player. And of course I'm not the only 1. Many players in my kingdom have been playing 3-3.5 years, I've just broke a year and some change. So they have accounts way stronger, and are way better players. Hopefully they figure this out. Super sketchy situation.
First of all, the only ABNORMALLY LARGE resources are the ones the game DOESN'T give you in the first place just to heal your troops to actually be able to fight in the game. This is probably why you have so many scammers and people who have already quit. I agree cheaters should be punished. Punish only the cheaters and stop going after anyone legally getting resources so they don't all up and quit. I have an even better idea: Make resources cheaper and easier to obtain, making the game more fun for everyone to play. This would be a better long term investment for Lilith to keep money flowing in. Otherwise, we're about to see more scammers and more quitters; especially if they don't put a quick stop to this guilty until proven innocent "hiccup". In the meantime, not only am I not plundering or asking for any more donations, I'm also not spending another dime on this game until they fix this.
They just need to make resources less important. Resources should be abundant and the item which should be more sought after are speed ups
Nah man, if they do that the whales will stop buying rss pack. They don't wanna cut their income
Chis you do great work for the community! THANK YOU
I hope your KVK will be better than ours, I hope Lilith considers the players who spent 100's on crystal tech and had their whole KVK ruined because Lilith had a knee jerk reaction.
👀 moommy
Whats even more concerning is that they have already ruined those people's kvk by the rrs clawback and if people that were unjustly targeted try to refund their money on crystal packages bought they'll be flagged as scammers 🤔
It's been over 3 days and they still have not replied to most teammates and no one has received their rss back
Does this mean alliance banks cant be used anymore in kvk?
Also in Heroic Anthem Kingdom there is 100s in ours as well. And customer service just says do not use abnormal methods to get rss. Which none of us did.
I have 5 farms and transfered over 2 billion resources in the last week with no issue, so it's not all large transfers.
We had a guy migrate into our kingdom and a lot of people gave him RSS. He got a message like that and Lillith held the RSS that was transferred to him.
UPDATE: I confirmed from an official Lilith support agent that the clawed back resources are ONLY the “abnormally acquired” resources - not the legit ones. I also asked her to take a deeper look into this problem as I myself have fallen “victim” to this warning message as I am completely innocent.
Does getting RSS from own farm now become illegal. I noticed that after recently transfer RSS from farm to main, the verification rewards being abnormally too frequent pop up...
Thanks for the news, channel Chisgule!😁
Anyone criticising you for the recent videos about scams and now Lillith’s completely messed up way of trying to deal with scammers, is just showing that they literally don’t understand what’s happening and/or what you’re saying about it. It must be exhausting to deal with so many fools who fundamentally don’t know what they’re talking about while they criticise you. Stay strong brother, those of us that understand what’s happening and why you’re raising it, appreciate you.
Thanks!
This happened to me 3 days ago, I traded with a teammate and the next day I got the mail saying I’d received an abnormal amount of resources and they took them away from me, customer service have been useless and still not got my resources back!
Thank you Chisgule for your videos!! Bringing attention to issues helps get answers.
the game does not follow the evolution of the players and the wars, it is mandatory that the players have at least 10 farm acc to be able to fight a few hours in a war. It's a shame you collect months to spend everything in a short time.
100% called this happening in the first video about this. that you could cripple an enemy with a honeypot trap this way. Or... if you get zeroed in KVK purely by bad game play, just refund your account and punish the victors. rough
Was waiting for this
Yikes. Just yikes. I need a while to process... (thanks for the great content Chisgule. You are doing a great job).
Now i am scared to even get anything from my farms. They need to understand we have many farms, and plundering is part of the game!
What about rss sellers lol ...? When à Guy just migrate in a kd and have over 4b of each im wondering lol !
If lilith continues like this, people will leave the game, we even send rss from our farm account than lilith will ban? sooner or later this game will be lonely.. no fight at kvk, all kingdoms will become ally, war and drought rss? lol 😂😂
I transferred around 1 B food yesteday and 500 M of each rss and nothing happened. So what do you say about these people?
Happened to me yesterday had a pass 7 few days ago and I had plundered rss not even that much maybe 100mill and I got it all took away and -100mill wood and -100mill gold. I don’t want to play anymore it put me in a horrible mood. My hospital is full...
I think it was probably just a poorly written algorithm for their new bot catching program like they said. The more shocking thing is people actually saying the scamming and refunding purchases en masse is akin to purchasing the packs legally...or worse when they say that scamming is not as bad as someone who spends their money the right way. I'm floored that people actually have these opinions. They have to be doing it for shock factor...they can't actually think that. I'm flabbergasted...
Thanks for highlighting this and for showing Liliths response. I hope we can get back to our regularly scheduled Chisgule programming of getting value and smashing enemies.
Thanks man, appreciate you being real and sharing all the info. It amazes me how much people will accuse everyone from Lilith to you for just running your business. Is it always perfect? Probably not. However, Lilith makes a game that we choose to play for fun. You make videos that are entertaining and help us as a community have more fun. So from the other side…thanks and keep up the good work mate :)
Talk about missing the point of the complaint 🤣
Hi Chisgule, sorry to have to contact you but I’m having serious issues with Lilith and this resource claw back nonsense they are doing, I watched your video a few days ago and it looked promising that they would resolve our problems. However they just keep telling me that I’ve received abnormal resources! They confirmed I received abnormal transfers from 3 accounts (alliance members) and gave me there IDs, I then sent back proof of trade deals I set up with these 3 players both through DMs and me actually returning resources back!
I’m at a total loss, not only did I lose the resources I sent to my teammates but also the ones they removed from me
Any update on this video I've just started the game again and about to start kvk 1 I have 6 farms I don't want to get banned for trying to play mid spending
I just want to thank you for everything you do and everything you’ve done for this game. No matter how good your intent is…………………….. Haters gonna hate! that’s just the way it is
I got this message before even before they made this announcement. A buddy sent me 2b of each rrs he was banned and they only took the rrs from me. So idk I’ll have to Contact customer service and see if I can donate all my resources since I’m about to migrate out of the kingdom I don’t want to get slapped with the penalty and hate myself for a few weeks.
Way I see it, they quickly created a bot to audit accounts, the bot wasn't the best programmed due to haste and they fixed it. It does suck, they should at least give something to those unfairly targeted that contact them and move on.
This is what happened to me I transferred 30 mil stone from my farm and they took it all from me
Same
Only 30 mill damnit, I want a 100 mill gold from my farm, but now I can’t get it
Thank gawd it's stone
Their still have not gave me back my rss. I'm in the negatives rn and missed out on ark. So missed gold heads too
The fact is ..even if this happens to me ..and i am afraid it might because i transfered few bill of rss last few days and our pass is opening tommorow (same kvk as chis) ..i am sure i wouldnt be able to contact support..it was always bad and they responded after couple of days..but now you dont even get the respond.. in game ,facebook ..there is no way to get the answer (or you get automatic stupid one) unless you spend 10+ k dollars and got vip support..
i'm about to go into kvk. I have been grinding my 4 farms for over 2 months, without cheating in any way. I have 3-4 billion rss on them in total, and I don't know what to do.
Hey chis , this is a matter of life and death (in game) for f2p / low spenders
I got warning for transferring rss from my seconed account , 3 months of collecting rss just gone.
I contacted VIP customer service and they just replied we understand your frustration and that's it.
I told them just stop this function in the game of transferring rss between accounts if you keep punishing everyone
I told them I am high spender and today I am turning to F2P Congratulations Lilith
I transferred to my friend in KVK and they still haven’t fixed it he is down a few hundred million
Yesterday i gave 400M wood to my brother because he is archer player and im cav, and all rss got negative and now he cant play kvk
yeah me and my brother got this mail just after our kvk 1 finished neither of us have farms but during kvk had alot of resources sent to us by allies to continue fighting in the front lines.
Hey chisgule can we get a verification on the topic of if you plunder or swarm a city and they find out it is a bot or rrs sellers they are clawing back that also ?
They took 300 mil resource from me. I message them and never got any reply back.
In my Kingdom we lost about 15b Res and half of personal starting ress
3 hours before war... Lucky they give us bk our starting Res... Removed only 15b from bank....
My kvk is about to start and i have around 500m easch rss in my 4 farm accounts so it's about 6 to 7 billion rss. What will lilith do with me just thinking 🤔
Transfer one farm to another and see what happens to that specific account
I thought they sent a message out this morning on discord saying it's been fixed??
i migrated and gave my legit rss from farms to a friend....they took all rss back...sucks
My account is flagged for 20 days i just transferred 4 Billions rss and they flagged it wtf
I wander if this is why my kingdom has ask that we stop bank donations
So could I not be able to transfer rss from my farms to my main anymore?
What about the buying and selling off accounts and even kingdoms in Rok. Not hard for Lilith to find them when it’s so freely advertised on discord and Facebook. Never seen or heard Lilith do anything about it.
Hey there, i got 3 farm accounts which have tones of rss that i want to transfer to my main account, is it safe to transfer them or am I gonna be in trouble?
I never knew this until i saw this video..!! Me and some of our active alliance member looted 10 to 15 offline city, each with more than 5B rss. Never had this issue. I got almost 800M in total from that.😅😅
Still no compo for Edward expertise not working either
Weird someone sent me 100m food yes today for no reason at all and I’m a pretty new player so this is good for me and I have not reached level 5 idk what’s going on but Lilith did not take the rss from me for some reason
Halfway through our KvK zone 6 move, our allies got their RSS removed so the whole side of our tactical move collapsed - thanks Lilith
I have totally lost confidence in spending money in this game. This was the first time I really pushed to get the 30 mil kill goal. The response I received from Lilith was that I received an “abnormal amount of resource.” My response back was “Yes, I did because I am a kingdom fighter who spent and abnormal amount of money to max my crystal tech as a result I am doing an abnormal amount of fighting in KVK.” The game mechanics call for people to need an abnormal amount of rss to continue fighting during a kvk if Lilith does not want people receiving abnormal amounts of resources then they need to reduce the cost of healing and building troops during kvk. I have stopped my daily spending and demand an apology and my good name cleared. Funny thing is I know someone sent me 300m in stone which I don’t need, want, or use and I bought the “Special resource bundle from the in game shop up to the $9.99 special to days in a row only getting food. The resource that was “confiscated”. (Fraudulently stole) from me was food which was the one rss I was still low on to heal my hospital. No stone was touched. If they had taken the stone back I probably would not have even noticed. RIP to my excitement in getting 30 mil kills for the first time.
I received the same mail and many in my kingdoms also while I’m a f2p, hopefully it was just after KL fight but it’s still annoying when you have this message and negative rss
Chis beware, don't feed the trolls too much...but apart from that great vid as usual!
A week ago i send my main 2,3 Billion from my farm. No problem so far
I am f2p can this affect me?
the sad truth now from a lot of posts that i am reading is the trust is gone (me included). Spenders are stopping spending as well in the thought of them banning accounts for getting resources from farm accounts and other alliance members.
How about me spending time in an alliance and then Lilith deciding it's time to get back the items claimed? Nonetheless the accounts that were buying gcs were later banned but how can I determine if the cheats I'm claiming are legit or not? This game has become a joke, rip
My farms got banned 365days for transferring a ton of resources before my Kvk too... My main acc as f2p got banned 3days and I'm really fc-up ... How could it be a nice game of experience if time to time things changes and getting worse 💔
does lilith know that paypal have "refund system" ????
edit: remove the paypal in the system
Once i sent 700 m rss to someone in pre kvk training stage! The reason i did that was our rival started building acc in our kingdom and do hard trash talk and they were first at ore kvk stage we were second! They banned my acc for 3 days because they said u r seller! They took out all of the rss from that guy ! And it took me 3 days yelling from all of my kingdom till lilith bring back my acc and fun fact is they didn’t say apologize or give me daily gem or daily gh compensation i paied for them !
I was gonna send rss to main last night until I got a mail in discord last night to not too bc half my alliance got in negative bc of plundered or transferring rss to main from farms
The fundamental problem that all these resource issues stem from is its way to expensive to heal T5 for the average player i think its ludicrous that most T5 players need a farm or multiple just to barely have enough to field fight effectively
Kvk ruined day before kingsland// crystal investment wasted/ trust is gone/ how/when and what is a fair compensate for this bugg? Keep it lillith cause you cant fix this..
I didn't even see a valentines bundle this year... Did anyone get the bundle ?
Lilith thinks people start buying bundles to get rss...but honestly that's not gonna happen. So many people thinking to stop playing rok...once people get other option no one can save Lilith.
People have been stealing resources from farms and selling..... it happened to me robbed my farms billions and sold them on discord!
If lilith continues to attack us honest players then it's time to leave rok I'm not a kraken but a whale and this makes me feel that it's time to stop giving them our money. Crystal tech was bad enough ND they are trying to fix it but this is the last straw, our alliance has a war bank for us to use in pass wars and kingsland so if they flag our war bank then we lose our hard earned farmed and plundered rss.
Not to mention that they also have the GALL to tax the rrs you send to the bank then tax it again when sent to players.the taxing of sending rrs to friends is also a joke
My advise if we all stop spending and freez all the activities they simply will stop what they are doing. I hope players listen to this point. They gonna respond to us in that situation.
Resource stockpile in a city should have a limit. Plunderable or non plunderable, you cannot have a city technically that can hold unlimited rss. May me a new building called warehouse to enhance the rss holding limits in your city
I transferred upto 200 Million rss from my farm and didn't got flagged. The only different thing I did from.others who got flagged was I transferred slowly and didn't spammed endlessly for fadt transfer