I downloaded it because I got currency in another game for hitting City Hall level 20 in a month. Im City hall 17 after a week and hoping the build times dont blow out too much more
First mistake : downloading this game with the Idea that it was gonna be a fun game kinda like og clash of clans but way better Now we're addicted and stuck between too much comm release power creep and kvk requirements But we love it this game is unique in this way such a passionate love hate relation
Yeah, mistake number 2 took me 18 months to recover from. Go deep on three marches, not 5 marches with partial investments. Your trades will suffer big time unless you expertise marches.
I actually started before there were kvk's or "End game". Back then it was much easier and simpler times. No money needed. Well maybe Minamoto was the 1st and original buy me tease from LILLITH.
Another mistake, following the farms value. Do not upgrade townhall 25 if you are not planning to use the farms in SoC, otherwise, power will count toward matchmaking in small kingdoms, or through domain system
Aside from the mistakes we all make Chis lol. 😅 I thought of a way to improve the game for older & new players & not be doomed 4 our ROK life. What if we could get ALL the sculptures back we have invested in a commander & put them in another one? 🤔 What if new players can finally invest in the early game commanders, but without worrying of hoarding gold heads for end game commanders, when they can get their ghs back to invest in new end game commanders once SOC begins. A total gh commander reset system like this for new & older players would be a huge improvement. Why punish players for mistakes or bad investments? Instead Empower them by allowing them to do this reset by playing more & earning this achievement. Just saying 🤷🏽♂️ Your the voice of the game brother, think you can help push an idea like this. 👍🏽 A fan of the channel & game, best wishes Chis 😎🙏🏽
Little like Call of Dragon's work's. Having said that at current gh acquisition speed you only get sculptures few and far between, especially if you're not spending on Writer of History even. Idk, my gut reaction is that ROK wouldn't survive the gh reset after kvk's 1 and 2. And full new gh's for SOC season 3. In that case you should spend on gold heads really only for first 2 season's. With spending you can get about 90 sculptures per season easily.
Hey Chisgule, great vid. I "know" you are more into Inf atm because the Inf skin and Liu but an update or a vid about archer gear for low-mid-high spender would be really nice. Keep your vids up my man 💪
I mean if everyone just saved their universals for Kvk1-2 and we all just used Epics & minimal gold keys, the game would be more interesting. It’d be based more on equipment
Just a thank you Chisgule, I've enjoyed your RoK videos for a while. I even played many of them in the car while driving to pass the time. I decided to walk away from the game due to having no realistic way to be competitive (there is no catch up mechanic) and the extreme cost of minor game upgrades. I'd never have thought that thousands spent would provide such incredibly low value! I'm used to games like WoW where the spend is just in a different universe. Amazing. Had fun, 3b kills was fun indeed, but time's up. Hope to see you in a future game.
15:04 Its clutch when Alliance Mobilization happens the exact same week as Mightiest Governor. I do speedup & power upgrade quest on the Troop Training, Power Upgrade & Final Sprint Then Barb Quest on the Barb day Gather quest on Gather day
Spending any money is a huge mistake. No matter when or what u spend on the game will want more money in the future to make the initial investment not wasted. I use useless gold heads like the gatherers in place of gold stars. Sitting here looking at Chisgules full AP bar is another mistake. Use ur free AP
chisigule u have covered how to join a jumperproject and how to jump can u make a video on the steps to leading a jump project im about to make one and need advice
I understand your point about not investing in gold key commanders. But we need to play in seasons 1-3 where we don’t have access to meta commanders. I don’t see a way around investing in them.
In reality you only play 2 seasons without the "meta" commanders and if you want to invest the gold heads into the weak ones and then be behind and extremely weak in the open field after you reach kvk 3 and beyond then that is entirely your choice. Using stars and xp books are fine but wasting the gold heads especially will not put you in a good place later. it's like doing average in the early game and then being much stronger in the late game (towards the other way around). This game is endgame focused and avoiding investing in gold key commanders like or not is best for youraccount.s development Unless you manna max Alexander the great from kvk 2, probably the only investment before kvk 3 that makes some sense.
20:10 my only issue is I always view farms as a form of cheating. At a certain point, ppl should just stop playing & fighting. Acknowledge you’ve reached your limit. But thats my opinion. I have an alt, but its in another kingdom & thats so I can play 1 KvK in my mains off-season & the other play KvK in the alts off season
I think they should lower the amount of accounts in kvk to 500 per kingdom. 93 doesn’t even have 500 active main accounts. We need to nip the farms in the butt some how
What I do if I make all 8 mistakes already and have no more monies? I spent 7k so far and during kvk 1 I probably made the worst decision ever. I made retribution's and 2x commander boots. I had to dismantle both of which going into kvk 2 because I had gathered enough to make hellish wasteland.
Hi Chisgule, thanks for the tips. I´m currently sitting on 66 Mill Power and im in a proper dead kingdom. How do I know to what Kingdom i should migrate or how do i know to which I can migrate. Is it for example possible to migrate to one kingdom that only ended kvk 1 while I already am as far as you are...?
I think your power is 1 mil too high to get into a decent C-D seed kingdom crossmigrating. There are benefits to cross migrating. You can save all your universals. Save gems. Save everything. Resources will be used the most.
Yo dude. You may or may not remember me. I was with you in kvk1 back in the day. I ended up sellin my account back then and just started playin again. On your point about the Cao Cao sculptures...Back then CC was a mightiest gov commander, we didnt know he was gonna be in keys and then after he got added to keys we didnt know more commanders would be added. So I wouldn't consider those mistakes on your part.
i disagree with mistake 8. truth is most people wont even be around long enough to see SoC. and you need to get in touch with reality, something ive mentioned before on similar videos. i have been in imp /high A spending KDs for all of my 1400 days in this game and my CM is 16 GHs from max. after almost 4 years of play. If you want to use CM or any other gold key commander early you should invest in it and stop trying to micro optimize everything for a late game you may never see. CM still have use which is more than you can say for many other legendary commanders. i would argue maxing harald, richard, ramses etc in hindsight was a much bigger waste, they holz zero value right now. For a long time you said ”you will max him from keys in 6 months” which was never true apart from maybe the first year of the games life where there were much fewer commanders to get from keys
@@Chisgulewho plans for anything when you try out a new game? i started playing cause of my brother and just kept playing since i liked it. i stuck around but most dont and saving everything for a year will put alot of people off. i wouldve invested some in CM if i knew then what i know now and wouldve had a better kvk 1-2 experience
I agree on maxing Ramesses being a mistake, but my 5525 Charles Martel through Gold Keys has been serving me well paired with Liu Che. But I wasn’t an Infantry main. So Martel keeps me from going in on another Infantry commander
Feels like a lot of the issues from lilith perspective. Like so many farms, rss sellers etc. Would be solve by enforcing 2 accounts per kingdom... so not just per your ROK account. But like you should be getting banned if you make multiple ROK accounts through emails and making bunch of farms that way. What is the point of the 2 accounts per kingdom limit at that point?!
What do you need money for? Gathering/using speedups/pressing help button, almost all tasks u don't need to spend a coin i swear u people are just lazy 💀💀💀
@@andromedafearfactory4400Or we don't have the speedups, can't train troops fast enough, can't afford the AP/RSS, or just are too poor to get the tasks done in the limited time
I'm very low spender but i don't have any farms. I've tried doing some but it's just boring and annoying and way too time consuming to have more than one account.
I disagree with Chisgule to a certain extent on the farm meta. If you are in a small kingdom you dont want your farms to be too high in power. If i remember correctly it is the top 300 players by power in a kingdom. If you train a lot of troops on your farms and have no meta equipment then they are worthless in the field. This also doesn't take into consideration the time it takes but that is not my argument. I agree with him if you are in A kingdoms and higher
No one uses farms for open field. The amount of troops is in regards to filling garrisons (anywhere you can) and some rallies (usually by passes) with them for a good amount of the kvk, limiting the amount of dead troops your main account takes until you are ready for Kingsland where you can kill troops as you please, (depends on the seed of kvk if you use farms in KL) Farm Meta relates to this not open field, I don't think I have ever seen someone field with a farm lol
@@ØDIN_ok True but in small kingdoms if you gain more troops on your farms then you will face kingdoms with more troop power as well due to the farms being in your top 300 accounts
I totally disagree. Trying to create “1” meta march of each troop type will send you down a path that you will never finish. You will constantly chase the meta and at no point catch up, even if you spend thousands of dollars. Focus on one troop type and be smart about your investments.
First mistake the people always said downloading the game😂 if you dont want download the gane why you play the gane just delete it😂 you are the mistake kid
advice ppl to spend on crystal tech is the most stupid thing... and this from a long time player shame on u... better buy daily gem supply with that money or event bundles but not this crystal tech who gets deleted after kvk... better build up ur acc
First mistake: downloading the game because you thought it looked like the RUclips ads
It’s actually better
@@Yasin-mw8wgyeah, the ads are worse than the actual game
It’s better then the ads
I downloaded it because I got currency in another game for hitting City Hall level 20 in a month. Im City hall 17 after a week and hoping the build times dont blow out too much more
Lmao
First mistake : downloading this game with the Idea that it was gonna be a fun game kinda like og clash of clans but way better
Now we're addicted and stuck between too much comm release power creep and kvk requirements
But we love it this game is unique in this way such a passionate love hate relation
the clash of clans part is so true XD
(im refusing to admit the rest, but its real lol)
We also love all the randomness that comes with armaments, equipment refines, and someone we all love so much, Mysterious merchant.
mistake no1 : downloading the game
Real comment
in these videos there's always someone saying this lol
Pin this
😂😂😂
Brokie! 😂
Yeah, mistake number 2 took me 18 months to recover from. Go deep on three marches, not 5 marches with partial investments. Your trades will suffer big time unless you expertise marches.
I actually started before there were kvk's or "End game". Back then it was much easier and simpler times. No money needed. Well maybe Minamoto was the 1st and original buy me tease from LILLITH.
Another mistake, following the farms value. Do not upgrade townhall 25 if you are not planning to use the farms in SoC, otherwise, power will count toward matchmaking in small kingdoms, or through domain system
Aside from the mistakes we all make Chis lol. 😅 I thought of a way to improve the game for older & new players & not be doomed 4 our ROK life. What if we could get ALL the sculptures back we have invested in a commander & put them in another one? 🤔 What if new players can finally invest in the early game commanders, but without worrying of hoarding gold heads for end game commanders, when they can get their ghs back to invest in new end game commanders once SOC begins. A total gh commander reset system like this for new & older players would be a huge improvement. Why punish players for mistakes or bad investments? Instead Empower them by allowing them to do this reset by playing more & earning this achievement. Just saying 🤷🏽♂️ Your the voice of the game brother, think you can help push an idea like this. 👍🏽 A fan of the channel & game, best wishes Chis 😎🙏🏽
I like the idea of resetting heads. That would allow someone to try something without completely losing out and having no use for the commander.
This.
Little like Call of Dragon's work's. Having said that at current gh acquisition speed you only get sculptures few and far between, especially if you're not spending on Writer of History even.
Idk, my gut reaction is that ROK wouldn't survive the gh reset after kvk's 1 and 2. And full new gh's for SOC season 3. In that case you should spend on gold heads really only for first 2 season's. With spending you can get about 90 sculptures per season easily.
I actually mentioned this idea too to Lilith and got blanked 😂
You’re saying the same idea everyone has had for the last 5 years lol
We all want a Universal Sculpture Reset item
Hey Chisgule, great vid. I "know" you are more into Inf atm because the Inf skin and Liu but an update or a vid about archer gear for low-mid-high spender would be really nice. Keep your vids up my man 💪
Most common mistake is going to be gold heads in gold key commanders. Players want to enjoy themselves now, not in several years time
I mean if everyone just saved their universals for Kvk1-2 and we all just used Epics & minimal gold keys, the game would be more interesting. It’d be based more on equipment
Just a thank you Chisgule, I've enjoyed your RoK videos for a while. I even played many of them in the car while driving to pass the time. I decided to walk away from the game due to having no realistic way to be competitive (there is no catch up mechanic) and the extreme cost of minor game upgrades. I'd never have thought that thousands spent would provide such incredibly low value! I'm used to games like WoW where the spend is just in a different universe. Amazing. Had fun, 3b kills was fun indeed, but time's up. Hope to see you in a future game.
#1 not putting peace shield in kvk and getting scouted like crazy 😂
What is kvk
Kingdom vs kingdom @@glenmcintyre7280
@@glenmcintyre7280kingdom vs kingdom
alot of kingdoms dont have enough players for alliance mobilization chisgule, even if we all do 11/11 quests best we can get to is floor 7
15:04 Its clutch when Alliance Mobilization happens the exact same week as Mightiest Governor.
I do speedup & power upgrade quest on the Troop Training, Power Upgrade & Final Sprint
Then Barb Quest on the Barb day
Gather quest on Gather day
12:21 they need to have a sort feature so ppl can find C & D seed kingdom to migrate and show the cap on that
6500 aethelfled heads is craaazzzyyyyy. 😂
Expedition chests over years and years
Spending any money is a huge mistake. No matter when or what u spend on the game will want more money in the future to make the initial investment not wasted. I use useless gold heads like the gatherers in place of gold stars. Sitting here looking at Chisgules full AP bar is another mistake. Use ur free AP
I enjoy more watching your videos than playing the game my friend.
chisigule u have covered how to join a jumperproject and how to jump can u make a video on the steps to leading a jump project im about to make one and need advice
I understand your point about not investing in gold key commanders. But we need to play in seasons 1-3 where we don’t have access to meta commanders. I don’t see a way around investing in them.
In reality you only play 2 seasons without the "meta" commanders and if you want to invest the gold heads into the weak ones and then be behind and extremely weak in the open field after you reach kvk 3 and beyond then that is entirely your choice. Using stars and xp books are fine but wasting the gold heads especially will not put you in a good place later. it's like doing average in the early game and then being much stronger in the late game (towards the other way around). This game is endgame focused and avoiding investing in gold key commanders like or not is best for youraccount.s development Unless you manna max Alexander the great from kvk 2, probably the only investment before kvk 3 that makes some sense.
You just noob, i only use baibars and aet, i got 300m in just 2 kvk
Do this and you're gonna regret just as much as me 🤡
Should I max out Alexander the Great and scipio prime
Hey Chisgule will you Stream pass opening from 2377 next week?
20:10 my only issue is I always view farms as a form of cheating. At a certain point, ppl should just stop playing & fighting. Acknowledge you’ve reached your limit. But thats my opinion. I have an alt, but its in another kingdom & thats so I can play 1 KvK in my mains off-season & the other play KvK in the alts off season
What season 3 commander should I get frist im f2p I have 21 gems to use
I hope you have more then 21
aku tidak melakukan satu pun kesalahan seperti yang kamu sebutkan tadi...serius 😅😅😅.. itu karena aku banyak belajar dari konten kreator sepertimu ❤❤❤
I think they should lower the amount of accounts in kvk to 500 per kingdom. 93 doesn’t even have 500 active main accounts. We need to nip the farms in the butt some how
I got my guan yu 5133 do i need to expertize him? Or go with luiche Because they say luiche is more good?
liu
Hey can we get a video about new gathering gathering gear and if the legendary ones are worth it
I would say no you have to spent normal equipment time lol
Herman P(5551) viable for openfield(pairing with ZL)??
What I do if I make all 8 mistakes already and have no more monies?
I spent 7k so far and during kvk 1 I probably made the worst decision ever. I made retribution's and 2x commander boots. I had to dismantle both of which going into kvk 2 because I had gathered enough to make hellish wasteland.
You spent like 7k gems or 7k real dollars?
Can you post some of the vids you had lined up before your trip about z4 against MILF and COC for cod plx🥺
Hi Chisgule, thanks for the tips. I´m currently sitting on 66 Mill Power and im in a proper dead kingdom. How do I know to what Kingdom i should migrate or how do i know to which I can migrate. Is it for example possible to migrate to one kingdom that only ended kvk 1 while I already am as far as you are...?
I think your power is 1 mil too high to get into a decent C-D seed kingdom crossmigrating.
There are benefits to cross migrating. You can save all your universals. Save gems. Save everything. Resources will be used the most.
just wondering in KVK1 can you play as Cav or do you have to be Infantry ?
Yo dude. You may or may not remember me. I was with you in kvk1 back in the day. I ended up sellin my account back then and just started playin again.
On your point about the Cao Cao sculptures...Back then CC was a mightiest gov commander, we didnt know he was gonna be in keys and then after he got added to keys we didnt know more commanders would be added. So I wouldn't consider those mistakes on your part.
Mistake number 9: not buying resources from bots
😢
i disagree with mistake 8. truth is most people wont even be around long enough to see SoC. and you need to get in touch with reality, something ive mentioned before on similar videos. i have been in imp /high A spending KDs for all of my 1400 days in this game and my CM is 16 GHs from max. after almost 4 years of play. If you want to use CM or any other gold key commander early you should invest in it and stop trying to micro optimize everything for a late game you may never see. CM still have use which is more than you can say for many other legendary commanders. i would argue maxing harald, richard, ramses etc in hindsight was a much bigger waste, they holz zero value right now. For a long time you said ”you will max him from keys in 6 months” which was never true apart from maybe the first year of the games life where there were much fewer commanders to get from keys
If you don’t plan to stick around to the end-game, you’re in the wrong game
@@Chisgulewho plans for anything when you try out a new game? i started playing cause of my brother and just kept playing since i liked it. i stuck around but most dont and saving everything for a year will put alot of people off. i wouldve invested some in CM if i knew then what i know now and wouldve had a better kvk 1-2 experience
I agree on maxing Ramesses being a mistake, but my 5525 Charles Martel through Gold Keys has been serving me well paired with Liu Che. But I wasn’t an Infantry main. So Martel keeps me from going in on another Infantry commander
My kingdom is zeroing farms and telling us to only have one or two so we lower our seed ranking
All kingdoms are doing that
AM event is not really worthy for f2p to use all of those speed ups to get good scores (yes, farming quests give low points) .... unless you're in kvk
I get confused with RoK style date too. 1/6 or 6/1 who knows! LOL
What would you spend gems on in a farm account, I have 60k gems on my farm and not sure if I should vip to 10 or spend on rss
does the formation only in max level commander?
Good tips
ally 1597 wind camp broooo
What is up
Feels like a lot of the issues from lilith perspective. Like so many farms, rss sellers etc. Would be solve by enforcing 2 accounts per kingdom... so not just per your ROK account. But like you should be getting banned if you make multiple ROK accounts through emails and making bunch of farms that way. What is the point of the 2 accounts per kingdom limit at that point?!
My comment is to help with the algorithm 😊
Alliance Mob is HORRIBLE if you are not spending money 💸👀
What do you need money for? Gathering/using speedups/pressing help button, almost all tasks u don't need to spend a coin i swear u people are just lazy 💀💀💀
AND YOU HAVE A WEEK TO FINISH IT
@@andromedafearfactory4400Or we don't have the speedups, can't train troops fast enough, can't afford the AP/RSS, or just are too poor to get the tasks done in the limited time
I don’t get the logic behind the training with farms because I can only play on one account at a time
Chis skip the why trust me part, we already trust you😂❤ also makes the video shorter
He loves the fact he's one of the best players of the game
hey guys if i am in a season of conquest and im only still city hall level 17 do I want to be in season 1,2 or 3 or stay in season of conquest
Shold i invest in sultan suleiman is he good?
Yes
Keep up the good work !would be a shame if u leave us.
I'm very low spender but i don't have any farms. I've tried doing some but it's just boring and annoying and way too time consuming to have more than one account.
I spend 7.99-14.99 dollars every 2 or 1 weeks which I think is good enough. And fr I don't even bother making another account it's too time consuming
I disagree with Chisgule to a certain extent on the farm meta. If you are in a small kingdom you dont want your farms to be too high in power. If i remember correctly it is the top 300 players by power in a kingdom. If you train a lot of troops on your farms and have no meta equipment then they are worthless in the field. This also doesn't take into consideration the time it takes but that is not my argument. I agree with him if you are in A kingdoms and higher
No one uses farms for open field. The amount of troops is in regards to filling garrisons (anywhere you can) and some rallies (usually by passes) with them for a good amount of the kvk, limiting the amount of dead troops your main account takes until you are ready for Kingsland where you can kill troops as you please, (depends on the seed of kvk if you use farms in KL) Farm Meta relates to this not open field, I don't think I have ever seen someone field with a farm lol
@@ØDIN_ok True but in small kingdoms if you gain more troops on your farms then you will face kingdoms with more troop power as well due to the farms being in your top 300 accounts
So unless you are willing to spend over 1k every kvk you shouldn’t be a rally or garrison lead? No one sees the issue with this? What a stupid game.
Unless you go to a C or D seed kingdom
yo chisgule why ppl dont use all dmg in ornamnets?
I like rok but the game has so many gate keepers it gets confusing
I’m a seige main
WE LOVE YOU CHISGULE
I totally disagree. Trying to create “1” meta march of each troop type will send you down a path that you will never finish. You will constantly chase the meta and at no point catch up, even if you spend thousands of dollars. Focus on one troop type and be smart about your investments.
That’s not what I said to do. I said to work on marches for each troop type, and focus on maxing commanders instead of many partials.
i dismantled mora's web, 4th ring and eternal night
Ah come ooon Just 5111 martel? 🥺🥺
I’ve got an account for sale though, I’m considering retiring lol😂
you guys plan?
21k gems I mean
Hi
Using universal gold heads 😢
Bro please upgrade my commanders..
dam i am the first one here
Second(?)
First mistake the people always said downloading the game😂 if you dont want download the gane why you play the gane just delete it😂 you are the mistake kid
Mistake no.2, spend money on game
Shisgule watch let me zero you
None of this makes sense
but you spent a lot in game. so your experience are irrelevant to the majority of the players.
Opposite is true. Because I have spent I have actual experience with commanders, not theoretical knowledge
advice ppl to spend on crystal tech is the most stupid thing... and this from a long time player shame on u... better buy daily gem supply with that money or event bundles but not this crystal tech who gets deleted after kvk... better build up ur acc