Meet The PEACEMAKER | Will Kill For Peace
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
- The Peacemaker has taken the world by storm as The Suicide Squad has highlighted John Cena in the roll but just who is this anti hero? The Peacemaker has a long history dating back to Charlton Comics before being acquired by DC Comics. He has served as inspiration for characters in the seminal graphic novel The Watchmen, and had a few attempts made to make him stand out. Will this latest Suicide outing do the trick? Only time will tell until then explore his origins here on Casually Comics!
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This is Peacemaker. He's got my back. I would advise not getting killed by him. His helmet traps the souls of his victims.
Took me a second but that is amazing joke 😂
I always think that scene cops more criticism than it deserves. IMO it was *supposed* to be awkward. Flag is a goody-two-shoes put in charge of a crew of villains who'd happily shank him first chance they get. The point was that he was trying to be intimidating and failing at it.
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this is sasha wood. She's got my back. I would advise not having a video made by her on you. Her wig salts the souls of her topic, although mileage may vary.
Im a 70 year old retired RN. I have been a comic fan for 60 years. I learned how read from them. I remember the 1st run of PeaceMaker and your take on his is spot on, your presentation made me feel as though I was experiencing them again. Well done
Thank you for your service sir
Nice. Comic veteran.
o7
Cool
Really?
I can totally see John Cena play up the "I only want peace...but, yeah, I totally want violence" angle. Good casting.
He's certainly the short-haired He-Man of our age
@@Milkex They really should have cast him for the He-Man movie.
Originally James Gunn wanted Dave Bautista to play The Peacemaker, but he turned it down.
And... it turned out astonishingly well, especially on the TV show. For John Cena's Peacemaker, the whole "fighting for peace" thing seems to be something he's tenuously adopted to give the arbitrary violence he was trained to commit some kind of meaning. Funny but also tragic.
There's a fair bit of the later DC Comics Peacemaker in the character, though they changed a lot of the details to update the story.
Back in the 80s and 90s, the irony of a man who would kill for peace wasn't lost on us, but I think we normalized it and embraced the attitude. Look at all our 80s action heroes. I don't think we ever questioned how ludicrous the idea was.
Wow you make a great point with that one
Those who beat their swords into ploughshares will plough for those who don't.
@@freman007good, you need people to plough.... Your mother- huh?
I honestly thought DC didn’t bother using him since he kinda looks like someone cosplaying Orion of the New Gods
Right? I was so confused as why discount orion was on the suicide squad.
Yeah lol
@@Julian-pw5mv "discount orion" ahahahahaha
Well, the colors are a tad similar but Orion is WAY more distinctive with that cosmic Segway he flies around on and looks way angrier all the time. Peacmaker ironically has some similar themes attached to his updated backstory, almost like a Black Mirror Captain America (without the "Hail Hydra" but how funny would it be if they recreated that panel for him in an official comic?) "Peace, though superior gunfire!"
I'm somewhat surprised they didn't change the costume up after buying the character or when relsunching him.
Peacemaker's true power, being John Cena ( Plays John Cena Theme)
You can't see him, but with his toilet bowl helmet in his vicinity, normal people can witness him.
It's even bad that his theme lyrics fits with Peacemaker's character.
LOL awesome
thats not a toilet bowl least in the comics it looks like a hollowed out cyberman helmet but yeah on Cena it looks like a bed pan
@@tripsix263 Thinker will hate him lol
@@alphawilliams7923 thugonomics or my time is now?
Does the psych report explain why he bought his costume at a Jack Kirby receivership sale?
You don't become independently wealthy by buying things at full price.
I just like how old-timey comic book men wore suits because ... they're business men!
It was a part of the times they lived in. Way back in the day, when IBM was a big deal, they made all of their programmers wear suits. Programmers! Nowadays, IBM doesn't even make computers.
Speaking of Vigilante he’s going to be a main character in the Peacemaker tv show
The world will know Adrian Chase! And hopefully they'll reprint his series in an omnibus so I can snatch that right on up lol
@@jimclayson Probably did it to lessen a possible speculative connection between the cowboy Vigilante and the Golden Age Hawkwoman, aka Sheira Sanders. (Still, this naming coincidence does sorta explain why the JLU episode "Hunter's Moon" had Vigilante as part of the away team with Hawkgirl Shayera Hol.)
@@CasuallyComics Well Chase was in Arrow. He wasn't Vigilante though...
Hopefully they do him better than Arrow did.
I always liked the Cowboy Vigilante from Justice League Unlimited, the other Vigilante I don't know much about him, he was in Arrow but seeing as how they decided to make Adrian Chase Prometheus and Green Arrow into a dollar store Batman (though some seasons of that show are cool) I don't think the depiction is accurate.
I really hope James Gunn goes all in on the hypocritical rationale/backstory; something more akin to punisher max, that deep down all he wanted is an excuse to hurt people.
The Nazi Father Backstory is retconned
@@nicwinsteadart5330 well now he's a still living neo-nazi.
"Come along, Bork."
"Are you talking to me?"
"No, my arms dealer is *also* named Bork!"
We are out of Bork licence plates!!
@@CasuallyComics Do you have any Flula Borg license plates left?
The fact that he first appeared in 1966 makes me think they were trying to capitalize on Vietnam War discourse without directly addressing the issue.
5 minutes into it a peacemaker has already used chemical weapons
Ever since JLU, I always wanted to see Greg Saunders Vigilante and Sir Justin Shining Knight do some buddy cop thing. Vigilante focused more on real world organised crime, and Shining Knight focused on mythical/Arthurian beasts and villains with each pulling the other into their "otherworldly" heroics. Which obviously would develop some overlap.
and it later turns out they enjoy helping the other guy out because it's different from what they usually deal with but are too "Tsundere" to admit it
@@ranwolf7650 I'd think they'd like having adventures together, but Vigilante would get sick of the magic bullshitting them and Shining Knight would get tired of the base villainy of criminals.
Looking forward to the Seven Soldiers comic they're releasing this year.
@@dragoknight377 if it was constant team ups, that would be true. but the occasional x-over would be fine.
"You can tell he didn't wanna do it by his complete weapons arsenal." Hahahahaha...
Wow, I will never make fun of Hawkeye's mask again.
Give me a Hawkeye joke humor me 😁
@@ozzy_vxx What did Hawkeye do when he realized he wasn't strong enough to be on the Avengers?
He handed in his too weak notice. I am so sorry. I just can't resist a bad pun. I can't take credit for that one, but it is my favorite.
Still better then his ugly modern suit.
@@MrSafior Word. Clint's new look sucks.
@@MrSafior no
Thanks, Sasha. I had no idea who Peacemaker was. I think John could play the character unironically with a little of both versions, and Idris and Margot could point out his contradictions.
He looks like what you get when you order the New Gods Orion from Wish.
Wow, that is a spot on description👏🏼
Funny enough, I thought he was Orion until the clarification.
its always a fine line between inner conflict and inconsistency. hopefully being wedged in with 5 or 6 other characters will help.
Just John Cena's addition to Suicide Squad made me hyped for the movie. Even though I haven't watched WWE for like 5-6 years, he's still my favorite.
Trust me, when Peacemaker will wave his hand in front of his face, every villain will poop bricks outta their holes.
Sorry Peacemaker, Nightwing still has the outstanding butt award.
Night Cake beats Peace cake!
3:50 "Save some fashion for the rest of us." lady, you are gold.
I am a huge Charlton comics fan. I knew them all.
Never thought the first live action Charleton character we'd see is Peacemaker. Not upset about it just surprised
Who were you expecting might make it first? I thought Blue Beetle cause they kept teasing that Booster Gold movie.
@@CasuallyComics Blue Beetle, my favorite character of all time, would be first.
I mean a B&W film noir Question movie would be awesome and no surpise though
A live-action Blue Beetle appeared in 'Smallville'. It was the Jaime Reyes version though.
@@mynardomacaraig2697 Though Ted Kord was also in the episode, just not in costume.
@@dupersuper1938 I mean more of a major character and especially a movie and self-titled show.
I really liked his inclusion in the 90s Checkmate run. His wildcard one-man army approached clashed so well with Checkmate's incredibly disciplined and organized structure and made me want to know what would happen next.
And his inclusion in the Janus Directive crossover was gold. Who else could square off with Major Force and match him in ego?
@@davidwatkins4709 major force is such an underrated character. I love him
I love the 80's Peacemaker. I remember when getting into comics I made it a mission to track down every one of his DC appearances. Vince McMahon should play his father.
THAT WOULD BE SO AWESOME
Legit, your content is getting better by the video and you've carved out a style that is uniquely you, which is quickly becoming my favorite.
Props to you.
Dig your videos
I was down in the dumps when DC killed off Vigilante particularly since the Punisher absolutely flourished over at Marvel. The storyline at the time Peacemaker appeared in Vigilante had some of the best writing as Adrian Chase found himself being pulled back into his role as Vigilante.
Peacemaker in his Vigilante appearances was amazing. And as unfortunate as Chase's demise was, I thought it was handled very very well.
Does that mean youll talk about Jamie Rayes Blue Beetle soon? So excited 😀
Gosh golly I hope so
Bat-voice is back with a touch of French! Informative, I had no clue who this character is in the trailer Suicide Squad 2
Editor: “The Peacemaker is kinda boring. How do you plan on making him more interesting?”
Writer: “Lets make his dad a Nazi”
Editor: “...Genius”
Hail Hydra...
I did know that the watchmen characters were supposed to be already existing characters but i didnt know Peacemaker was supposed to be one of them, im definitely going to go look up who everyone else was supposed to be
Comedian = Peacemaker
The Question = Rorschach
Nite Owl = Blue Beetle (both versions)
Silk Spectre = Nightshade
Dr. Manhattan = Captain Atom
@@PhantomObserver Has Nathaniel Addam ever met Dr. Manhattan?
@@PhantomObserver What about Judo Master? Or am I confusing Companies? Thxs.
@@lewisaino I don’t think they ever met in Doomsday Clock, but I’d have to look it up.
@@lewisaino The Charlton Comics Judomaster’s adventures took place during World War II, while the other characters were set in contemporary times (aka the 1960s / 1970s). Alan Moore (who did Watchmen) probably didn’t choose to adapt either Judomaster or Son of Vulcan into a Watchmen character because they didn’t represent icons as the others did:
Dr. Manhattan = “the superhuman with otherworldly abilities” hero
Comedian = “the military themed” hero
Nite Owl = “the cool gadgets” hero
Rorschach = “the detective” hero
Silk Spectre = “the sexy female” hero
Ozymandias = “the power of the mind” hero
Most DC/Marvel hero characters will fall into one or more of the above archetypes.
I've said on other channels that with the right creative team, you could make Peacemaker a real Punisher type. He's an absolute loon in The Janus Directive maxi-series. He's got gadgets like Batman, a killing streak like Wolverine, an absolute arsenal at his disposal, and a helmet that taunts him, what's not to like?
Also check out the mini series L.A.W. (Living Assault Weapons), it's all of the former Charlton characters interacting as a semi-team in the DC Universe, he's totally wack-a-doo.
I always liked the silliness of his helmet and I'll dig Cena's approach; other than that, I've been impressed by how unimpressive he was (Re: Fortress Lad)
If you're not already a professional voice actor, then you damn well should be. Great stuff! And awesome video (as usual)!
A serial killer sanctioned by the government? So he's basically the Agent for H.A.R.M.?
Thanks for the video as always. I knew the bit about the Watcmen being inspired by the Charslton comics characters but didn't realize that the Comedian was the analogue for Peacemaker. Neat stuff!
I wonder if dc phased him out due to him sharing so many notes of his costume with Orion lol
Love a character whose whole premise is contradictory. Kills for peace, comits crime to stop crime. Love it.
that french accent though, I really enjoy the quality voice acting throughout my binge of your videos.
I feel the Suicide Squad is a good place for Peacemaker
No duh
I'm not surprised he blew up the Commodore's boat- he did warn him 64 times. Also RIP Sasha's shirt.
I do love seeing how writers update and change old characters for a new age especially when they don't have as much to work with.
I do hope to see if they keep up the mental instability with him as I like the potential reminds me of Moon Knight
Peacemaker sounds like a straight out villain 😈
Lucifer is a dc hero. Hero means main character in dc captain kill could be a hero
He is
John will do amazing with his character, there's a good reason to why they also planned about 3 seasons of his TV Series for Peacemaker as well.
Man, I think I was mentally tuning into Sasha's brainwaves earlier this morning because I was thinking, "She should really do a video on Peacemaker because she does a great job going into characters' origins and backgrounds."
The Suicide Squad has a new breakout star... AND HIS NAME IS JOHN CENA!!!
Peacemaker!
He who fires two warning shots… Into your head!
i always thought that the toilet seat helmet would have some kind of special significance or capability ....instead of just a chrome toilet seat.....but nope just an inside artist joke im sure....lol
Whoa talk about a backstory! At first I was just gonna make a joke about him constantly choosing violence instead of peace but now I feel bad.
Wow, I had no idea Vigilante was a thing, but... I love him. He looks like the exact kinda character I vibe with and I adore his look. Thank you for introducing him to me even though that wasn’t the intention of this video lol
He was originally a cowboy hero from the Golden Age
@@lancerutt9936 ooh cool! I definitely should look into him more
@@voidaspects9173 The original Golden Age Vigilante Greg Saunders has nothing to do with the Bronze Age Vigilante Adrian Chase mentioned here that Alan Moore co-created. The Golden Age version was featured in episodes of Justice League Unlimited whereas The Bronze Age version was a more mature themed prestige comic with Moore's penchant of hero deconstruction. A brilliant series that really tackled the themes that made Daredevil and Punisher popular at the time but without some of the usual superhero tropes.
Suicide Squad trailer hell yeah. Peacemaker who? Yes I needed this video. D*+k Giordano put him on. Now I get the unsavory beach joke. ☺️
It's official, you've now whet my appetite for videos about the 80s Vigilante series! Between Adrian Chase and Preston Payne, you're really hitting my semi-obscure DC comics sweet spots!
When DC started turning up in DC and I first saw him, I wondered if his name was ironic. The guy just seemed like he was constantly ready to kill somebody! Honestly, at least with the Comedian, you see there is a reason he started slipping downhill. Peacemaker in his old appearances is just hilarious! Like you said, he "doesn't want to do violence", but he has tons of custom ammo and he goes out of his way to kill people. I mean, I think they wanted him to be something like the Golden Age Sandman, who used to just use a gas gun to knock people out and went out of his way to NOT kill people, and even tried to save them if they ended up in a situation they would die. But that failed miserably!
It's kind of funny when you look at it. Sometimes I think the Batman of later years is kind of based off of Sandman more than the Golden Age Batman. The old-school Batman would ghost you in a heartbeat in the early 40's, whereas at the same time Sandman was a hero with scruples whose main equipment was a fast car, a harpoon gun for scaling buildings, and his gas gun for incapacitating thugs so they can be kept in check until the cops show up.
"This is a job for Chris... somehow" lol. Great line.
Do you think you will be doing a vid on Blackguard? That may be cool too.
I hope Peacemaker's momentum doesn't stop & none of his projects suck. More obscure characters should get their due
I remember him crossing paths with john ostrander's suicide squad once. Maybe in the janus directive story arc or before that. I thought back then he looked ridiculous but was cool and kinda engaging. Don't remermber what he was up to or how his story ended there, and never heard of him again until the ss2 teaser trailer. He's an interesting obscure character imho. Just, please dc, don't overuse him.
The only Charlton comics characters that succeeded in DC were Blue Beetle, Captain Atom and the Question as everyone else either flopped, became forgotten or they were bit players. Makes me wonder if DC acquiring Charlton was ever beneficial. It would be a interesting video to delve into the history of Charlton Comics and why/how DC acquired Charlton Comics.
The blue beetle alone made it worth it I think. Ted and Jaime are both great characters
DC had always bought characters from defunct comics company. They bought Captain Marvel and others from Fawcett when they decided to get out of the business,. Plastic Man, Freedom Fighters and other comics were bought from Quality.
Charlton was a different company, because everything was in house. Editorial, printing and distribution were under one roof, which saved a lot of money. They also were known for their licensed books, (TV shows, Comic Strips and Cowboy Actors) as well as other regular magazines and books. Super hero stuff was actually very minor.
Dick Giordano got his start at Charlton, as did many of famous comics creators, Roger Stern, John Byrne, Dennis O’Neil and Joe Staton. Giordano was the one who headed up the “revitalized” action hero line that included PeaceMaker, Ted Kord Blue Beetle, Captain Atom, Nightshade and The Question.
When Charlton publications started to falter (they never updated their presses and it was always run on the cheap) DC President Paul Levitz, bought several of the prominent superhero characters as a favor to Dick Giordano.
The sad part of it: the direct market (comic book stores) were about to boom.
It worked out well for DC because Captain Atom, the Question were popular series and Blue Beetle, Nightshade, Sarge Steel became great fan favorite characters. They also got Watchmen out of the deal.
@@Lukecash2 I had no idea that Sarge Steel was a Charlton character. Thanks for educating me on Charlton Comics as I had little knowledge on Charlton
Captain Atom is the only Charleton character I like lol. Utter Unit.
@@Lukecash2 What about Sarge Rock and the Easy Company?
I would love it if you did more of who the characters in watchmen where based on like this :) good work on a deep dive!
Great video, Sasha. You do delve into the history and details. A nice skate backwards to the Charlton Comics days of the 60's. Such a hit or miss company. For every Dr Graves or Blue Beetle, you had Judo Master or the Tyro Team. Peacemaker being one of the back burners, but for a reason, the character stayed memorable. When Clooney was in The Peacemaker movie, for an instant I had hoped that it would be based on that character. Nice to see that he is being put out once again, over 50 years later.
I remember seeing the Peacemaker comics from Charleton on the comic book racks when I was young, that included the Blue Beetle & The Question, too..
Holy rusted metal. I never knew you had ur own channel. This is amazing and I will be a faithful viewer til from now on. Sorry for not knowing
Interesting character, i knew nothing about him, also you look fantastic!
the villain dr tzin-tzin reminds me of sin tzu that villain from that gamecube batman game
Sasha??? Why did his potential applicant have a left black eye. Very nice French accent. 😁👍💥🕊
Holy shit, John Cena used that exact logic in the latest Suicide Squad trailer. Guess they really are being true to his character.
Wait, so Project Peacemaker was just, "Let's take a bunch of crazies and use them as a black ops group"? ... Kinda puts into perspective why they might tap this guy for the Suicide Squad. In a way he was kind of the prototype.
So peacemaker you’re so awesome 😂🤣😂🤣 I find it funny that they contradicts everything that has got is funny
Another essential video - these nuggets of comic history are brilliant!
I love Peacemaker so much and I am so happy you have done a vid on him. Would love to see some other Charlton characters!
“I cherish peace with all my heart dont care how many men women and children I have to kill to get it “
Discovered your channel a couple weeks ago
Loving it so far
i been gone a while but man, i forgot how entertaining your videos are. glad i came back.
Thanks! Really enjoyed this. Sharp editing & right amount of snark. Subbed. A shame there are so few good comics channels.
I can't not see Orion when I look at Peacemaker
Ditto.
I love this channel so much. I feel comic book smarter after every video!
10:06 Excellent French accent, as only a true Canuck could pull off! You must've REALLY done well in French class!
He cherishes peace with all his heart and he doesn't care how many men, women and children he has to kill to get it.
I thought you’re the crazy one
Loving that super sons omnibus in the background
😂😂😂 the shadeee in this video, give me lifeeee🐍🐍🐍
Dang girl I always love your hair and your style. =)
Oh he's playing the peacemaker. At first I thought that they casted him as the Invisible Man...
So that’s who the Swedish Chef was talking about.
Wow Vigilante! I have his first 10 comic books 📚. I think I was around 8-10 when it came out.
Thank you so much ! Answered all my ?’s about DD yellow !
I'd just missed The Peacemaker, falling into serious fanlove i 1968, so I was certainly aware of his back issue presence, but have generally passed on him since. I recall thinking at one opportunity upon seeing him in the dime box, "Feh. Boyette."
I was differently in the "Who?" Camp, but now I know!
I'm seriously new to the Peacemaker character. In fact I thought the character was Orion of the new gods...which made no sense whatsoever. Thanks for explaining things.
BORK, BORK, BORK. *Tosses ingredients into pot*
I think that Charlton comic was cancelled just in time! Did anyone else notice how his 'assistant' looked like she had a black eye? Yikes!
As for him now being part of a group of half-insane killers? He should have joined the Squad years ago!
She did, she actually got it cause she was flipping one of Christopher's enemies, who was trying to put a bomb in her breifcase, since she was going to the interview. She was proficient in Ju-Jitsu and had F.B.I level clearance. She really wanted the job lol. It looked like they were setting her up to fight crime with him potentially.
The one thing I was bummed about was that we didn't get to see more Nora lol well that and Christopher fighting actual monsters cause that happened.
@@CasuallyComics I had to rad this twice before I realized you were being sincere, lol! At first I thought it was an inker's mistake, but I saw it a few times. It would be great to see the 'sidekick' to the crazy hero being the one who has to reel them in from going to far! - - - OMG!! That could be the plot for an El Kabong comic! BabaLouie handling a hero with 2 identities!
When I saw that interview you did the other day I was worried that you might be getting too big for your britches. But much to my relief, I can see that my fears were unfounded. You found the "tight buns", commented on them and made darn sure we'd thank you for noticing. Never change.
Off topic but I appreciate the Berserk volume in the background, truly a woman of taste.
My only exposure to Peacemaker was through the Jaime Reyes Blue Beetle run and I enjoyed that version as a mentor archetype
I'm interested in both versions really. I'd love a fusion of the two.
What about a version where the dipomat persona is actually just one of his dilutions? Maybe he sees himself as being a wealthy diplomat by day, when really he's just an unstable killer full-time. Maybe take it further and have him viewing his acts of violence as acts of diplomacy. In his head he's a man of peace who uses words, when in reality he's just gunning people down.
@@ashleytuchin7693 I really like that latter one. I kind of would want him to be saying the peaceful things out loud while he blasts people.
Drinking game: everytime she says "JOHN CENA :D"
The peacemaker's helmet looks like someone slammed a metal lunch tray and a jailhouse stainless toilet seat onto John Cena's face.
Nice video! Not yhasy I should but do a history of the rest of the unknown The Suicide Squad movie team members.
...and also Creeper and Firestorm.
Btw, this is why I adore DC. Even though their characters were created by many different people and other bought from other companies they manage to make them work.
I think I remember reading Peacemaker stories in Action Comics when it was an anthology type of book. He was part of a group story I think- I don't remember much detail as it was pretty dull. I mainly remember being incredulous that anyone would take him seriously wearing that helmet.
Diving into Antarctica in his shirt sleeves is pretty tough.
I was waiting for you to mention that the Vigilante was wearing a Punisher costume.
He gives serious "ARMED INTERVENTION" Vibes, ala Celestial Being in Gundam 00, but with a mountain size dose of Crazy.
A most AWESOME wig, oh Canadienne of comics!