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  • Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
  • Today's show...
    🎙️ Story #1: A conversation and a debate about America with popular Streamer, RUclipsr and Political Commentator Steven Bonnell II (AKA ‘‪@destiny‬')
    🎙️ Story #2: The New York hush money trial against former President Donald Trump is turning out to be the biggest campaign advertisement in history. But will it be for the benefit of President Joe Biden or former President Donald Trump?
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Комментарии • 1,9 тыс.

  • @AnimationWizard
    @AnimationWizard 5 месяцев назад +3575

    Destiny pulled me out of a right wing echo chamber and stopped me from falling into a left wing one by simultaneously criticizing the radical left.

    • @Le10White
      @Le10White 5 месяцев назад +38

      Indicted we stand!

    • @JupyWotan
      @JupyWotan 5 месяцев назад +79

      "I get my politics from online entertainers!"

    • @rayshamrock
      @rayshamrock 5 месяцев назад +13

      Whew! So, you're almost a leftist?

    • @TiredMage47
      @TiredMage47 5 месяцев назад +12

      Same here

    • @braden7275
      @braden7275 5 месяцев назад +120

      The Daliban is strong

  • @Afelah.
    @Afelah. 5 месяцев назад +1429

    Def was about to say “work my way up to your moms house” but remembered he wasn’t on stream

    • @poggersgotabigcodpgabc6224
      @poggersgotabigcodpgabc6224 5 месяцев назад +118

      I was dying after I read this comment. I completely believe this.

    • @drearmouse9510
      @drearmouse9510 5 месяцев назад +59

      Ha! Truuuue. Suddenly reminded of all the times he's said, "No, wait, nevermind." and can't help but think they were all "your mom" jokes. xD

    • @rohanjarande
      @rohanjarande 5 месяцев назад

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @venom.gaming
      @venom.gaming 5 месяцев назад

      Truuuuue 🤣

    • @SenseiTumbleweed
      @SenseiTumbleweed 5 месяцев назад +34

      I was thinking the same thing. Destiny has a certain cadence to his your mom jokes and it followed that cadence.

  • @hubbabubba8083
    @hubbabubba8083 5 месяцев назад +1641

    Destiny fan here! Never heard of Will Cain and he was actually exceptionally respectful and seems like a super cool dude. Love the conversation!

    • @ANTIStraussian
      @ANTIStraussian 5 месяцев назад +9

      He almost bit through his cheek lol

    • @actualnotanewbie
      @actualnotanewbie 5 месяцев назад +15

      Will Cain was on a fun addition to ESPN's First Take, I had no idea that he is on Fox News Radio now

    • @ChiefBinChicken
      @ChiefBinChicken 5 месяцев назад +18

      Same. I can see in his eyes there's some strong disagreements he'd have with Destiny, look forward to seeing these two go at it in a more heated format :p hopefully Will doesn't take the fighting personally though and hate Destiny, as so many people do...

    • @rickrobbins1037
      @rickrobbins1037 5 месяцев назад +3

      ​@actualnotanewbie he's a Fox and Friend weekend host

    • @Bobbyblack6
      @Bobbyblack6 5 месяцев назад +15

      Same, Loved the adherence to the conversation. A lot of topics were brought up and a lot of conversation paths could have been followed but Will and Destiny both danced perfectly to stay on topic and follow a consistent, wholistic and constructive approach to the conversation. Would love to hear them talk again and get into the weeds of a singular topic.

  • @JP-Sphere
    @JP-Sphere 5 месяцев назад +2376

    Its CRAZY seeing Destiny grow like this

    • @ANTIStraussian
      @ANTIStraussian 5 месяцев назад +211

      Hasan punching the air

    • @psudoplays254
      @psudoplays254 5 месяцев назад +83

      ​@ANTIStraussian while Mike punches the couch

    • @demolazer
      @demolazer 5 месяцев назад +39

      He's legit hitting the big times

    • @meijiishin5650
      @meijiishin5650 5 месяцев назад +71

      The funniest part to me is that a while ago when Vaush/Hasan started going into their fortress arc, Destiny made a prediction that they've stunted themselves and he's gonna keep growing. Really funny to see it come true.

    • @JonSnuh
      @JonSnuh 5 месяцев назад +48

      @meijiishin5650 Destiny plays an incredible long game. He never seems to compromise his long-term goals for short-term gains, and because of this, he is growing and thriving. Meanwhile characters like Vaush and Hasan are barely treading water.

  • @Akcruiser2012
    @Akcruiser2012 5 месяцев назад +1386

    Thanks for bringing Destiny on, please bring him back for more conversations during this year's election.

    • @Boswd
      @Boswd 5 месяцев назад +28

      They actually have a nice, good flow with each other....

    • @torunaga1927
      @torunaga1927 5 месяцев назад +3

      I can already tell that Destiny put on a good show. He's not as calm or "nice" to people as he trys to show on shows bugger than him.

    • @TeddieYoutube
      @TeddieYoutube 5 месяцев назад +13

      @@torunaga1927 Yea because he wants to be invited back? this is good viewer ship and considering he wants to reach people this is how he acts.. Of course.

    • @Boswd
      @Boswd 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@torunaga1927 IDK he and Jordan Peterson went at it pretty hard on some topics on Petersons show.. he and Cenk uyger also went at on piers morgan

    • @vyvianalcott1681
      @vyvianalcott1681 5 месяцев назад +3

      I really like how he engages with people, he's a really good listener so even if he's wrong or you disagree, you can convey that to him without him brushing it off. I respect Ben Shapiro for the same reason, I can't wait to see more conversations between those two.

  • @kevinross6235
    @kevinross6235 5 месяцев назад +1340

    Glad Destiny talks to a lot of people he disagrees with

    • @EpsteinYouTubeemployees
      @EpsteinYouTubeemployees 5 месяцев назад +9

      😂😂😂😂 Divorcetiny disagrees with everyone, he is a bottom feeding contrarian Neo-con.

    • @michaelvanderwal7390
      @michaelvanderwal7390 5 месяцев назад +55

      By your own logic, he'd agree with neocons

    • @woolzem
      @woolzem 5 месяцев назад +63

      ​@EpsteinRUclipsemployees you sound like a radical leftist which is not a compliment

    • @OrionBlaze
      @OrionBlaze 5 месяцев назад +15

      unlike Hassan

    • @bigbaderek1978
      @bigbaderek1978 5 месяцев назад +5

      so fast...he was my favorite twitch streamer argueing with insane people 2 years ago now this....

  • @rodo2220
    @rodo2220 5 месяцев назад +198

    This Will Cain guy seems super reasonable. Props, Fox

    • @mukuzChannel
      @mukuzChannel 5 месяцев назад

      He has his moments

    • @crunchycrackers7364
      @crunchycrackers7364 4 месяца назад +1

      @@mukuzChanneleveryone has there moments, including destiny.

  • @LuigiMordelAlaume
    @LuigiMordelAlaume 5 месяцев назад +129

    Holy coherence Batman, how long has Fox been hiding this host that doesn't hop between irrelevant sensational nonsense and stays on topic. He's still spewing falsehoods but this is literally the most rational/authentic conversation I've ever seen from a younger dude on Fox.

    • @jiimmyyy
      @jiimmyyy 5 месяцев назад +8

      Yeah he seems like he's actually down to earth.

    • @FeltiusCelcius
      @FeltiusCelcius 5 месяцев назад +9

      SpEwInG fAlShOoD lmaooooooo 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

    • @jiimmyyy
      @jiimmyyy 5 месяцев назад +24

      @@FeltiusCelcius are you 12 years old?

    • @FeltiusCelcius
      @FeltiusCelcius 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@jiimmyyy 4. Impressive ik

    • @FeltiusCelcius
      @FeltiusCelcius 5 месяцев назад

      @@jiimmyyy any other pointless questions

  • @umbrellafox9160
    @umbrellafox9160 5 месяцев назад +590

    Destiny fan, just wanted to say I loved the conversation. Will Cain surprised me, wouldn’t expect a voice like his on Fox. Definitely gonna check out more from him, seems interesting.

    • @CRWeaventure
      @CRWeaventure 5 месяцев назад +21

      DGGL

    • @hayvenb
      @hayvenb 5 месяцев назад +20

      Enchilada, my brother in Chris

    • @johnnyjackbohorn7636
      @johnnyjackbohorn7636 5 месяцев назад

      @@hayvenb
      🟪🟩🟧The Beatles 🎼had a ticket 🎟 to ride and Republicans offer tickets to guilt free racism, and they don’t care.

    • @CRWeaventure
      @CRWeaventure 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@hayvenb how u know that

    • @Wallyworld30
      @Wallyworld30 5 месяцев назад +9

      This was my worry about this debate. Destiny could be leading people to Fox News and their right wing brain rot. Hopefully he pulls more from them then he is giving to them.

  • @Chris-il5im
    @Chris-il5im 5 месяцев назад +415

    Having Destiny on was unexpected, but it turned out to be a pleasant surprise in the end. The conversation was really good. Thanks!

    • @woolzem
      @woolzem 5 месяцев назад +7

      Watch the debate with Ben Shapiro, it's pretty good too

    • @jessespence696
      @jessespence696 5 месяцев назад

      @@woolzem you mean rapid fire conversation. I Thought it was alright, but I wouldn't call it much of a debate.

  • @joshuajosh77
    @joshuajosh77 5 месяцев назад +1153

    Destiny was a great guest, have him on more.

    • @noone-vi5co
      @noone-vi5co 5 месяцев назад +20

      Destiny is a proud black trans woman

    • @wraygehouse
      @wraygehouse 5 месяцев назад

      @@noone-vi5cofox meeting them DIE quotas.

    • @demolisher-ng1dh
      @demolisher-ng1dh 5 месяцев назад +15

      @@noone-vi5co when is that meme gonna get old if it already didn't 10 years ago?

    • @kopekopekop
      @kopekopekop 5 месяцев назад +8

      ⁠@@demolisher-ng1dhI think this is the first Destiny woman joke I’ve seen since the moderation crackdown started so we have hope for the future

    • @wasdwasdedsf
      @wasdwasdedsf 5 месяцев назад

      lol

  • @trizzybones
    @trizzybones 5 месяцев назад +60

    As a Destiny fan, I haven't heard of Will Cain before but I appreciated that he could have a respectful and thoughtful conversation even while disagreeing, not what I would expect from Fox News and I'm open to seeing more of Will's content, good discussion!

    • @michaellong2439
      @michaellong2439 5 месяцев назад

      ive started watching destiny recently and it seems hes (usually) changed from actually debating people, as in, he wants to "win" - and more so a real conversation that he genuinely tries to get people to see different sides. which I hugely respect. I think he is exactly what the media needs more of even if you disagree with his points directly

  • @killkerson295
    @killkerson295 5 месяцев назад +288

    Thank you for having Destiny on. This kinda stuff is what we need.

    • @Guyvermectin
      @Guyvermectin 5 месяцев назад +2

      Cringe

    • @abdullahx8118
      @abdullahx8118 5 месяцев назад +12

      ​@@Guyvermectin america is not cringe, you should acknowledge that america isnt evil. Its the best nation for its people and the world to ever set foot on earth, you should appreciate that.

    • @Zinojn
      @Zinojn 5 месяцев назад +8

      I hope they have her on more often. She was great!

    • @how4646
      @how4646 5 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@abdullahx8118 based

    • @wasdwasdedsf
      @wasdwasdedsf 5 месяцев назад

      for the record, this clown got literally around 98% of negative comments on the other podcast he was just on, boyscast... which has quite an unpolitical and centrist viewerbase.
      the fact that this comment section looks like this on this video says a lot of how astroturfed and corporately driven his "success" is

  • @asiahcollinson5016
    @asiahcollinson5016 5 месяцев назад +74

    I really like how respectful and good faith this convo was. Im a big Destiny fan, but huge props to Will Cain for the good faith energy in this convo

    • @Robisquick
      @Robisquick 5 месяцев назад +2

      Same here. He’s just a chip above the average media folks. Flawed for sure. Wrong sometimes. But clearly mailable and willing to a respectable degree to search for truth.

    • @wasdwasdedsf
      @wasdwasdedsf 5 месяцев назад

      for the record, this clown got literally around 98% of negative comments on the other podcast he was just on, boyscast... which haas quite an unpolitical and centrist viewerbase.
      the fact that this comment section looks like this on this video says a lot of hoow astroturfed and corporately driven his "success" is

  • @rotundpopsicle
    @rotundpopsicle 5 месяцев назад +113

    I greatly enjoyed this conversation. It is so refreshingly nice to listen to 2 Intelligent individuals from conflicting viewpoints have a civil conversation

    • @areichental
      @areichental 5 месяцев назад +10

      I know right? How do we make this more Main stream American discourse?

    • @nicememes7570
      @nicememes7570 5 месяцев назад +3

      Meanwhile Tucker Carlson having bill nye on literally refusing to let him answer the one question he asked bill

    • @cp3190
      @cp3190 5 месяцев назад +1

      Great discussion. Problem is you think these two are intelligent.
      You are very unlikely to see any intelligent people being public people.

    • @nicememes7570
      @nicememes7570 5 месяцев назад +9

      @@cp3190 just because you watch brain dead commentary doesn’t mean we all do, when’s the last time your pundits did their research on the show? Destiny viewers aren’t just being told what to think they literally get to watch the research happen in real time and watch as (for example) destiny was pretty well on the fence about Israel before reaching his current stance, as we all learned about the atrocities that happened for both sides as they keep trying to justify continuing a conflict.

    • @nicememes7570
      @nicememes7570 5 месяцев назад

      @@cp3190 Ivy League schools like the ones we found out (during Trump presidency) that wealthy families were just outright paying for their kids to get in? Can’t for the life of me think of why a random nobody from Nebraska with As and Bs wouldn’t get invited as opposed to sons and daughters of rich people and politicians lmao.
      And again the research happens on stream, you literally can not tell me that destiny isn’t WELL above average intelligence considering he can point out the cognitive dissonance in people LIKE PETERSON.
      And yeah I know how scouting works I was scouted too, idk what that has to do with anything we were saying but k.
      And people with brains care if information can be verified, regardless of medium. Example: gaza health ministry might have a conflict of interest on how to report numbers, but if the numbers they provide match with is real data centers, American, European etc, then odds are they aren’t lying about number of deaths. Again, just for one example.

  • @lockelamora4184
    @lockelamora4184 5 месяцев назад +86

    LMAO... seeing fox news advertise TheOmniLiberal account is something else

    • @__keys
      @__keys 5 месяцев назад

      Actually

    • @mikei4455
      @mikei4455 5 месяцев назад +3

      Pepe pfp detected. Opinion discarded

    • @peytonburnsed2196
      @peytonburnsed2196 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@mikei4455 You misspelled anime and used it in the wrong context

    • @shiba3996
      @shiba3996 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@peytonburnsed2196 how many levels of irony are you on?

  • @AntisepticHandwash
    @AntisepticHandwash 5 месяцев назад +27

    This is the first time I've seen Will Cain, and wow, I am seriously impressed. The guy is informed, intelligent, well-spoken, and hugely respectful. This show is probably one of the best examples of constructive disagreement/conversation I've _ever_ seen. Fantastic!

    • @edd1EroxPwDblah
      @edd1EroxPwDblah 4 месяца назад

      He's well spoken and intelligent. Idk about well informed tho lol

  • @Dr.EgonCholakian
    @Dr.EgonCholakian 5 месяцев назад +209

    Hasan is so angry and jealous right now

    • @mark-kq7rc
      @mark-kq7rc 5 месяцев назад +9

      Why would he be, he thinks fox news is fascist his followers will disown him if he does these this lol

    • @seen7163
      @seen7163 5 месяцев назад +70

      ​@@mark-kq7rcI think it has to do with the fact that destiny is about to become more mainstream than him

    • @akiltircuit7515
      @akiltircuit7515 5 месяцев назад +2

      😂😂💀

    • @ronniekregar3482
      @ronniekregar3482 5 месяцев назад

      Lol, not at all

    • @TransfemPrincess_
      @TransfemPrincess_ 5 месяцев назад +1

      Oh no! Destiny gets to be Fox's newest controlled opposition! How will we go on?

  • @Nikonfanboy1982
    @Nikonfanboy1982 5 месяцев назад +54

    As a long time Destiny fan I thought this convo was some of the better push back Destiny has ever had. Will has my respect. I cannot for the life of me see how anyone would watch a Tucker Carlson when the conservative thought leaders have guys like this at their disposal. I will be tuning in more often cheers will

    • @zeaferjones1404
      @zeaferjones1404 5 месяцев назад

      Tucker is actually very fair to progressives. Sean Hannity is the one that is extremely biased to Republicans.

    • @Fly_Slo
      @Fly_Slo 5 месяцев назад

      Not tryna be divisive but what has tucker done that was so bad, he's a literal moderate of you listen to him. Literally trump and tucker are like 90s democrats who are slightly more right wing on economics and more right wing on abortion (for tucker trumps more moderate), you would think those people would actually be respected but they are labeled putin stooges or something like that

    • @Nikonfanboy1982
      @Nikonfanboy1982 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@Fly_Slo I have too many reason to dislike Tucker to list here. The major reason is he sounds anti American and like a grifter never mind his political differences. If you’re not genuine you’re not worth listening to. I don’t believe he is genuine and if he is that may be worse. I don’t care for Trump because of his isolationism. I believe in globalization of markets because I am a capitalist and I want our companies to be the biggest best and dominant. Trump doesn’t understand the importance of nato, nor Taiwan. These are huge issues for me even if I loved Trump that would be enough for me to vote for Biden

  • @razcarsey6635
    @razcarsey6635 5 месяцев назад +72

    Wait... so Steven Botticelli flies all the way to the NY Fox HQ only to be interviewed remotely in a different room?

    • @starhawks1
      @starhawks1 5 месяцев назад +4

      *Borelli

    • @ThePurplemaneater
      @ThePurplemaneater 5 месяцев назад +10

      @@starhawks1 Vermicelli*

    • @Valentin_Teslov
      @Valentin_Teslov 5 месяцев назад +7

      @@ThePurplemaneater *Spaghettini

    • @SelfCheckout
      @SelfCheckout 5 месяцев назад +2

      it's a hybrid remote gig

    • @TheRattail
      @TheRattail 5 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@starhawks1*brocoliceli

  • @stevenm3330
    @stevenm3330 5 месяцев назад +141

    The fact that these two even can talk or debate what is it to be an American, is American.

    • @tommyc5515
      @tommyc5515 5 месяцев назад +11

      I agree that this is good! However, you guys (I’m guessing you are an American) seem so horny for your own uniqueness. This happens in every western country. Talking to people with different views in a respectful manner is just as Spanish or Croatian or Australian as it is American.

    • @stevenm3330
      @stevenm3330 5 месяцев назад +8

      @tommyc5515 you would think that, but we are more unique in our freedom, especially when it comes to speech. Other western countries might talk about it, but they still have stricter speech laws then America.

    • @tommyc5515
      @tommyc5515 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@stevenm3330 That is true, good point!

    • @Shadowbanned4Lyfe
      @Shadowbanned4Lyfe 5 месяцев назад

      Meanwhile Democrats colluding with big tech to silence the speech of others

    • @Raadpensionaris
      @Raadpensionaris 5 месяцев назад

      Yes, because in other countries people never debate lol

  • @ravenhawk3758
    @ravenhawk3758 5 месяцев назад +51

    I always enjoy Destiny. He's an extremely bright and deep thinker. Hope he comes back. Thanks

    • @deviantnia
      @deviantnia 5 месяцев назад

      i disagree, his trump derangement syndrome is too strong

    • @opensocietyenjoyer
      @opensocietyenjoyer 5 месяцев назад

      @@deviantniatrump is unironically terrible. not seeing that is truth derangement syndrom

    • @ElectroNeutronic-lh4do
      @ElectroNeutronic-lh4do 5 месяцев назад +1

      He's actually not a deep thinker. He is a broad thinker that gives the illusion of depth, in my estimation. I've seen the wheels turning in his head many times to avoid going deeper and skipping laterally to protect his leftist worldview.

    • @ravenhawk3758
      @ravenhawk3758 5 месяцев назад

      @@ElectroNeutronic-lh4do Actually, after giving your comment more thought, tangential thinkers are the creative thinkers and often make leaps of logic that lead to new ways of thinking. They see connections most people don't see.

    • @ElectroNeutronic-lh4do
      @ElectroNeutronic-lh4do 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@ravenhawk3758I hear you and there are positives to it. But it's not good for political thought leadership. Why? Because you have to see themes as a leader.
      In this discussion, around 38:00, he quoted a conservative justice in a shallow way (Scalia), and with another host he might have gotten away with looking smart and so balanced... but Will knew the quote and the context on a deeper level, and the larger theme that Scalia was getting at was the opposite of what Destiny was trying to say.
      Destiny was trying to use it as an argument FOR institutions, because without them we would only have "parchment rights" or rights on paper. But Scalia was actually warning against putting your trust in any institution to guarantee you rights to anyone else's things (positive rights). So Destiny puts faith in institutions because he sees their flex, but doesnt realize the nature of those institutions or the core principles that led to them and protect against them.
      He doesnt acknowledge that Will understood the theme and principle of what Scalia was saying and then continues after that by basically saying "Well, it's insane to think that on the whole the institutions are nefarious, and people are just trying to do the right thing." That's beside the point!
      He's right, in that it would a sick, cynical person to think that throughout all the institutions there is some vast conspiracy to take down Americans, and that everyone is involved. But the point is, how were these institutions designed, and how do we use the principles that founded this country to help guide our handling of them.
      If he's not willing or able to discuss those principles and keeps shifting the discussion to defend the status quo, then he and whoever follows him uncritically will be susceptible to being "useful idiots", even if they are smart. Because, no, it is not possible for every single government employee to be some evil conspirator, but it is possible, and extremely likely that this country's comminist adversaries would seek to subvert our institutions and use them against us. Which, if you look at the THEMES at play... censorship, lawfare against political opponents, radical cultural shift... THAT idea not only seems possible, but extremely likely and all but conclusive.

  • @jamesgreen78758
    @jamesgreen78758 5 месяцев назад +125

    I’ve heard a lot about Fox News being racist, but I appreciate that you all were able to bring on a strong black woman like Destiny

    • @skoomaenjoyer9582
      @skoomaenjoyer9582 5 месяцев назад +17

      You’ve found a safe place to make this joke 💀

    • @PaxRT87
      @PaxRT87 5 месяцев назад +4

      There it is

    • @gotchathespider7850
      @gotchathespider7850 5 месяцев назад +12

      People have been saying this meme should die for years, but honestly, if I went to the comments on a video with destiny in it and I didn't see at least one I'd be a little disappointed.

    • @TheAngryCoyote
      @TheAngryCoyote 5 месяцев назад +3

      I’ve been informed by authoritative sources that Mr Borelli is a 35 year old Cubano

    • @mopeybloke
      @mopeybloke 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@gotchathespider7850 I'm disappointed how I don't see "Destiny got destroyed in this debate" posted beneath the most casual conversations.

  • @sirwill619
    @sirwill619 5 месяцев назад +18

    Wow refreshing to see two people give each other the time to speak without interrupting each other on Fox News

    • @TapTwoCounterspell
      @TapTwoCounterspell 5 месяцев назад

      You only see "interruptions" and arguments on Fox because they bring on those with opposing view points. MSNBC/CNN just fluff each other's balls. Definition of echo chamber.

  • @CroftBondG
    @CroftBondG 5 месяцев назад +26

    First time hearing about Will Cain. If you didn't tell me that his show was on Fox News, I wouldn't have believed it. Will is a MUCH better personality to have in order to bring back Fox News' reputation. Fox, get Will more coverage. As a Liberal, it's a breath of fresh air to see some well communicated and professional attitudes on Fox. We can disagree, but wayyyy more open to listening to Fox when Will is a representation.

    • @warallied
      @warallied 5 месяцев назад +4

      as a moderate - im actually quite surprised. While there is room for more heat and more ideas however far they are - this is definately a great moderation of a side of the aisle.

    • @mbburry4759
      @mbburry4759 5 месяцев назад +3

      Unfortunately there's a reason he's not on prime time - the bulk of the fox fans crave their evening unhinged personalities

    • @warallied
      @warallied 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@mbburry4759 lets not act like its a unique thing to the right

    • @sadboat1657
      @sadboat1657 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@warallied see: Hasan

  • @Zach-cn4lb
    @Zach-cn4lb 5 месяцев назад +76

    What the hell? This Will Cain guy actually seems sort of reasonable and honest. What is he doing on Fox?

    • @unclebobboomergames
      @unclebobboomergames 5 месяцев назад +11

      Most even big media channels are way better when youre not listening to the poster children. The big names are always the worst. Stay away from prime time. Day time is surprisingly usually way more reasonable.b

    • @SpikedCollar666
      @SpikedCollar666 5 месяцев назад +7

      Yeah I was surprised too. It’s probably because he was involved with sports so he views this all a bit differently and is used to arguing opposing narratives without having to hardline a certain one overall.

    • @jamesinhenley
      @jamesinhenley 5 месяцев назад

      he works there, they pay him to have conversations like this

  • @Kittytravel
    @Kittytravel 4 месяца назад +3

    A right and left conversation that didn't turn into a shouting match. That's wild all on its own.

  • @TechnoLion1
    @TechnoLion1 5 месяцев назад +15

    Ive watched Destiny for a long time. I have gotten way more right-wing over the years but i have always appreciated his honesty (most of the time) and willingness to debate.

    • @hugh-jasole
      @hugh-jasole 3 месяца назад

      Same here. I got into Hassan and Vaush and Destiny around the same time and he's the only one of those three I still respect and keep up with his content. He is one of the few lefties who isn't completely deranged even tho on J6 and Trump he still sounds like a MSNBC host.

  • @meganbranch2730
    @meganbranch2730 5 месяцев назад +14

    Ok Mr. Will Cain is quite intelligent, and VERY well spoken/articulate. I’m impressed. I see u Will!

  • @waffles1042
    @waffles1042 5 месяцев назад +80

    Not the biggest Destiny fan, but he spoke really well here.

    • @toxicwaltz0863
      @toxicwaltz0863 5 месяцев назад

      😂

    • @user-xg9wb9zs7j
      @user-xg9wb9zs7j 5 месяцев назад +9

      dgg4L brotherman

    • @ronniekregar3482
      @ronniekregar3482 5 месяцев назад

      Lol, he literally fumbled his opening statement.

    • @Hadoichi
      @Hadoichi 5 месяцев назад +13

      @@ronniekregar3482 did you only watch the first 2 minutes lol

    • @firefly9838
      @firefly9838 5 месяцев назад

      He is so dumb like all neocons in lib clothing

  • @Cuptial-ev9tb
    @Cuptial-ev9tb 5 месяцев назад +9

    First time listening to Will Cain. Seems like a smart guy and a good move for Fox!

  • @Lizard1582
    @Lizard1582 5 месяцев назад +31

    Surprisingly hinged for a Fox guy i never heard of. Seems like a good faith person to talk to on future events for Destiny

  • @areichental
    @areichental 5 месяцев назад +14

    Will cain is 100x more enjoyable than Hannity. Hope he moves up on fox. Great talk bud.

    • @therationalparty6814
      @therationalparty6814 4 месяца назад

      He won’t move up because he’s reasonable and has respectful dialogue with the other side. Fox viewers will hate on him because it’s all about “owning the libs,” not having mature discourse. It’s a shame because discussions like this are so important and much needed nowadays.

  • @Bobbyblack6
    @Bobbyblack6 5 месяцев назад +7

    Loved the adherence to the conversation. A lot of topics were brought up and a lot of conversation paths could have been followed but Will and Destiny both danced perfectly to stay on topic and follow a consistent, wholistic and constructive approach to the conversation. Would love to hear them talk again and get into the weeds of a singular topic.

  • @TankSwift
    @TankSwift 5 месяцев назад +34

    Destiny? That's a strippers name 😂😂😂😂
    God bless my man, this guy grinds every day and never lost focus 🙌🏿

  • @LukeXNagel
    @LukeXNagel 5 месяцев назад +7

    First time watching anything Will Cain, and so far I dont hate him at all!

    • @jamesinhenley
      @jamesinhenley 5 месяцев назад

      wow you sound like a really niice person

  • @cdubbau135
    @cdubbau135 5 месяцев назад +4

    This was a great conversation. Thank you Will Cain. I hope you do more like this.

  • @ColdfFlare
    @ColdfFlare 5 месяцев назад +21

    I imagine he was going to say "I can't wait to work my way up to a real news network" 😂😂 he had to roll it back.

    • @TlTVN
      @TlTVN 5 месяцев назад +11

      lol i think work my way up fox news haha but then he realized that might be an insult to this guy hahaha

    • @thewriter7966
      @thewriter7966 5 месяцев назад +2

      He was ABSOLUTELY going to say that LMFAO

    • @SpikedCollar666
      @SpikedCollar666 5 месяцев назад +1

      Timestamp?

    • @BitterSnake
      @BitterSnake 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@SpikedCollar666 2:33

    • @BDKoala
      @BDKoala 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@TlTVNI thought he was going to mention "work his way up to Tucker Carlson" but that would have been a sore point.

  • @TheIdeaTree
    @TheIdeaTree 5 месяцев назад +7

    This is probably the best conversation Destiny has had in months, definitely the entirety of 2024. Both parties actually got to complete their sentences, topics reached a satisfying enough end point, there was actual good faith effort from both parties... kudos to you Mr. Cain.

  • @Crankey239
    @Crankey239 5 месяцев назад +3

    Destiny Fan and I'm honestly really impressed with Will's ability to ask questions and listen without attacking on any pre-conceived notions. Proud of you Fox, conversations like this are a big step in the right direction.

  • @kevinpondt720
    @kevinpondt720 5 месяцев назад +8

    Surprisingly awesome conversation, high brow and respectful, more Destiny

  • @lordlynkz
    @lordlynkz 5 месяцев назад +5

    Great show. A real conversation i think all Americans should engage with.

  • @ChemicalTen
    @ChemicalTen 5 месяцев назад +7

    This was an incredible conversation actually.

  • @BathoryDusk
    @BathoryDusk 5 месяцев назад +5

    Really cool that you guys had Destiny on. One of the only (if not THE only) left leaning political streamers who actively goes out to talk to people with different viewpoints. Both of you guys were very polite and engaged in good faith. Would love to see more of this.

  • @MichaelTermini
    @MichaelTermini 5 месяцев назад +5

    I'm a Destiny fan, never heard of Will Cain, but this was a really good discussion. Hope you two do something again at some point in the future.

  • @bradders9743
    @bradders9743 5 месяцев назад +5

    I was really happy to see destiny on Fox news, but I was also really happy to discover Will. I never watched his show before and he really impressed me. Great vid all around!

  • @gnor5658
    @gnor5658 5 месяцев назад +15

    Wow destiny is actually everywhere now

  • @bewee
    @bewee 5 месяцев назад +43

    People attacking Cain, why?
    He didn't really debate, he just kinda asked questions with a tiny bit of push back. He went easy I thought, but didn't look stupid, or like he didn't know what he was talking about.

    • @pefo1674
      @pefo1674 5 месяцев назад +1

      Sorry but he does that all the time...

    • @johnnyjackbohorn7636
      @johnnyjackbohorn7636 5 месяцев назад

      @@pefo1674
      🟪🟩🟧The Beatles 🎼had a ticket 🎟 to ride and Republicans offer tickets to guilt free racism, and they don’t care.

    • @ANTIStraussian
      @ANTIStraussian 5 месяцев назад +6

      He thinks the Republican party is in a great place 😂

    • @FamSisher
      @FamSisher 5 месяцев назад +18

      Who’s attacking Cain? I see nothing but positive comments

    • @richardhands904
      @richardhands904 5 месяцев назад +4

      Only see positive comments

  • @ROFLSTOMPERIWNL
    @ROFLSTOMPERIWNL 5 месяцев назад +11

    very good appearance from destiny, i love that great conversation

  • @ApocalexNow
    @ApocalexNow 5 месяцев назад +7

    Thank you Will Cain for platforming black women, even when they disagree with you.

    • @BVBridesifyer
      @BVBridesifyer 5 месяцев назад

      Never miss an opportunity brother o7

  • @slothslop
    @slothslop 5 месяцев назад +8

    i think its important to remember that the left has always been in love with America's promise of being a multicultural melting pot, and though its not popular to say anymore, the left truly is in love with this part of the country's identity, while the right is in love with other parts.

    • @mamatoldem5331
      @mamatoldem5331 5 месяцев назад +3

      Yo I never thought about that you are absolutely correct and it's a beautiful thing I'm a patriotic black man and they try to act like we don't exist I have tons of pride in my country

    • @sillylittlesheepjax6009
      @sillylittlesheepjax6009 5 месяцев назад

      @@mamatoldem5331 multicultural melting pot doesnt work when new migrants feel more for their native land and use america only as economic zone. Thats how you lose your country whole identity and create tribal rivals groups fighting for space

    • @Johnnysmithy24
      @Johnnysmithy24 5 месяцев назад

      @@mamatoldem5331 ❤️

    • @jamesmcdonnell2455
      @jamesmcdonnell2455 4 месяца назад

      Lol, what nonsense. You can't claim you want a "multicultural melting pot" and whine about "cultural appropriation". It's like saying you like sheppard's pie, but you want it deconstructed on you plate. Sure you have the lamb, corn, and potatoes, but it's not the same if you keep it all separated

    • @slothslop
      @slothslop 4 месяца назад

      @@jamesmcdonnell2455 cool strawman bro are you going to say I want litterboxes in school classrooms too

  • @ChaseFace
    @ChaseFace 5 месяцев назад +5

    This was great. More Destiny as often as possible! He’s one of the only honest voices in politics these days.

    • @MrPhillip-o5m
      @MrPhillip-o5m 5 месяцев назад

      What are you talking about. Will got him to admit the NY case wasn't good.
      Do you have to cope so hard when you hear another opinion.

    • @LOLLOL-ff9sq
      @LOLLOL-ff9sq 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@MrPhillip-o5m ??? He himself said that the case wasn't good, you make it seem like he got interrogated into admitting it or something.

  • @Dustysoapbox
    @Dustysoapbox 5 месяцев назад +13

    Destiny has become the reasonable left.

  • @Christopher-wm8vc
    @Christopher-wm8vc 5 месяцев назад +9

    Very good guest

  • @Mr.E713
    @Mr.E713 5 месяцев назад +23

    Let’s go Tiny

  • @swylie2010
    @swylie2010 5 месяцев назад +4

    I came to this from a silly post on twitter. I thought I would not like somebody named "Destiny". I was surprised. The goofy name guy made more sense than the host's questions even merited.

  • @seaborg9946
    @seaborg9946 5 месяцев назад +3

    Love to see a 35 year old black woman come on the show! Awesome to see diversity

  • @TellMeMoreTMM
    @TellMeMoreTMM 5 месяцев назад +1

    Wow. These are the most positive comments I've ever seen on a RUclips video.

  • @47shadows76
    @47shadows76 3 месяца назад +1

    Imagine if every American Debate was like this

  • @Un-Woke
    @Un-Woke 5 месяцев назад +3

    While I don’t like Density (couldn’t help myself) I do admire that he at least engages with our wonderful side. We need more lefties talking.

  • @grunkous6360
    @grunkous6360 3 месяца назад +2

    Thanks Fox News for holding a respectable conversation with destiny on your platform. It's nice to see something less cutthroat and comedy based on a political channel.

  • @FDTFDTFDT
    @FDTFDTFDT 5 месяцев назад +3

    Will needs a lot more airtime. His reasonable takes are so needed in this crazy culture we're in now, on both sides of the aisle.

  • @nymmaful
    @nymmaful 5 месяцев назад +2

    Great interview. I'd always much rather hear people who disagree than someone just saying the things I already agree with.

  • @freddegreeff31
    @freddegreeff31 5 месяцев назад +7

    Please do more of these with destiny

  • @hrolfthestrange
    @hrolfthestrange 5 месяцев назад +4

    I like Destinys beginning flub about working his way up the fox news chain, and then realizing that was a direct professional insult to this guy, suggesting hes the lowest or a low wrung of the fox hierarchy, that he didnt mean to make.
    Lol

  • @OTCplayboyP
    @OTCplayboyP 5 месяцев назад +7

    Destiny lit got me out of the Tim drool, Steven powder brain rot and rlly opened up what it means to be in the center and agree to disagree on different issues

    • @Voornoek
      @Voornoek 5 месяцев назад

      bwahahaha "powder brain" good one dear sir

    • @zeaferjones1404
      @zeaferjones1404 5 месяцев назад

      I like Joe Rogan and Kim Iversen but Crowder is a little too far right for my taste but I'd take him over Cenk etc.

  • @BiggestBrainBro
    @BiggestBrainBro 5 месяцев назад +6

    Good convo, thanks!

  • @LeonV777
    @LeonV777 5 месяцев назад +1

    Anyone could tell how much you guys disagreed with each other by looks alone but huge respect for keeping things civil, professional and having this conversation.

  • @Lili_Chen2005
    @Lili_Chen2005 5 месяцев назад +3

    This is the first time I've heard of Destiny and I'll be honest - I was expecting a girl given the name.

  • @ez33kiel6
    @ez33kiel6 5 месяцев назад +2

    Neither a "fan" of You or Destiny (i ain't even American) but this was SUPER interesting to listen to!
    Great stuff! More interviews like this please! So much more interesting to watch than the usual twitter-crap lol

  • @justinsena2558
    @justinsena2558 5 месяцев назад +4

    Good respectful conversation. Have destiny on more please

  • @Ltsoftware3139
    @Ltsoftware3139 5 месяцев назад +1

    Didn't expect such a great interview from Fox. I will listen more to Will Cain

  • @kylehenham6744
    @kylehenham6744 5 месяцев назад +4

    What a great conversation!!

  • @toddgoogle4387
    @toddgoogle4387 4 месяца назад +2

    Great conversation.

  • @alsogaba
    @alsogaba 5 месяцев назад +6

    great conversation

  • @jasonschad5379
    @jasonschad5379 5 месяцев назад +2

    Excellent conversation. Destiny is one of my favorite pundits to watch as he always knows how to have a conversation with who ever it happens to be and then tailors that conversation to how the room is being.

  • @jcmethot93
    @jcmethot93 5 месяцев назад +2

    Wow a conversation in good faith with an actual principled liberal. This was enjoyable

  • @grymjaw
    @grymjaw 5 месяцев назад +2

    Who is Will Cain and why have I never heard of him? Very reasonable common sense conservative, and I say this as a progressive.

  • @jamiea2281
    @jamiea2281 5 месяцев назад +1

    This is how conservatives and liberals should behave and talk to each other.

  • @kylecrowson1417
    @kylecrowson1417 5 месяцев назад +5

    Its so weird that almost any other comment section involving Destiny is filled with people attacking him, and I skim through these and its all positive comments. Good to see, and good conversation.

    • @theomnidegenerate5236
      @theomnidegenerate5236 5 месяцев назад +2

      To be fair, it’s probably because Fox News is a bit more main stream. Also, a lot of his fans are showing up to watch it first.
      Most other comments sections have to do with spaces that are terminally online where he has been slandered to no end that’s usually why those ones are far more toxic.

    • @ChiefBinChicken
      @ChiefBinChicken 5 месяцев назад

      @@theomnidegenerate5236 Came here to make the exact same point lol. Curious if we will see what the real Fox viewers think about Destiny

    • @kylecrowson1417
      @kylecrowson1417 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@theomnidegenerate5236 I agree, and im mostly reffering to comments from people who dont know who destiny is. Or at least, I assume they dont.

  • @chasewebster7891
    @chasewebster7891 4 месяца назад +1

    I don’t think saying “the left doesn’t love America” is accurate. I think the left has many legitimate critiques of America, and when they voice them, the right misinterprets it as lack of love.
    The idea that loving country is like loving a spouse is fallacious. You don’t choose where you’re born as you do who you marry. Many people who are Americans want to change it because they were born into something that they immediately become a part of, and they want to be better. Self improvement is a better analogy than love of a spouse.

  • @randydoak6638
    @randydoak6638 5 месяцев назад +18

    It's been demonstrated that the more the public sees Trump in campaign mode the lower his polling gos. With him being tied up in court it's to his advantage because he can't make his ridiculous speeches while he's snoozing a courtroom. The public has a short memory and needs to be reminded of how horrible he is.

    • @Shadowbanned4Lyfe
      @Shadowbanned4Lyfe 5 месяцев назад +1

      Muh tds

    • @richardhands904
      @richardhands904 5 месяцев назад

      ​Some people certainly have tds, it's not who you think.@@Shadowbanned4Lyfe

    • @gabeminajj
      @gabeminajj 5 месяцев назад

      @@Shadowbanned4Lyfe In addition, what's your opinion on Trump lying in the faces of Georgia prior to his election years ago about how he was pro-second amendment? Then when elected, specifically tackled Georgia's red flag laws and pushed it within a short span of becoming president? Are you pro-second amendment? If so, why are you voting for Trump?

    • @Shadowbanned4Lyfe
      @Shadowbanned4Lyfe 5 месяцев назад

      @@gabeminajj He is pro 2a. And while i disagree with red flag laws, I would say offering compromise is a gesture of good faith. Do you think there’s ever a time when others should step in and at minimum give professionals a chance to determine someone is mentally well enough to maintain possession of their firearms? The problem isn’t red flag laws, it’s people who would abuse them in a way to needlessly take firearms from law abiding citizens under the guise of “safety”. There’s quite the delineation there and to say otherwise would be completely disingenuous. Wouldn’t you agree?

    • @gabeminajj
      @gabeminajj 5 месяцев назад

      @@Shadowbanned4Lyfe Imo he isn't actually pro 2a. I'm a lefty, but I'm super conservative in terms of firearms. I have a lot of alignment with pre-Obama conservatism before populists blew up as big as it is now.
      I'm not for the government stepping in and having the authority to determine whether or not someone shoud have their firearm, ESPECIALLY in the south. With pros theres cons, and I don't think the pros outweigh the cons in terms of red flag laws. It has good intentions, but I totally and outright believe it'll be used in the most remedial ways possible. With red flag laws there still isn't any deterrent whatsoever in my eyes. Schizos are still possessing firearms legally and are sending people to the shadow realm more than ever before in American history.
      Regardless of we believe it's the right way to handle things or not, he still lied in their faces about it. He specifically said "I won't touch your guns," but did the polar opposite. Not adding in all the things from my previous comment that steered me away from him too. Not even taking into account his inexplainable relations with Russia, and his even greater relationship with Israel.

  • @FleivaSleiva
    @FleivaSleiva 5 месяцев назад +3

    Here since the 4 infestor hitsquad. And the CombatEX/Deezer ladder games.

  • @kevinchapman148
    @kevinchapman148 5 месяцев назад +2

    I love Destiny ❤ great conversation!

  • @davidmb1595
    @davidmb1595 5 месяцев назад +1

    I am a conservative but Destiny is the only leftist I continuously follow, I disagree with him on a moral basis on many things, but anyone has to admit the guy is pretty smart and odes his homework.

  • @Twbrooks509
    @Twbrooks509 5 месяцев назад +4

    Destiny gets it. The true voice of reason.

  • @williambryant2055
    @williambryant2055 5 месяцев назад +1

    Props to Fox News for having a talented woman like Destiny on the show

  • @JoltinJoe26
    @JoltinJoe26 5 месяцев назад

    These might be my two favorite guys in this space....both sharp as hell and informed, both earnest and unafraid, and both coming from good and genuine places (notwithstanding Destiny's occasional Twitter/X indiscretions)....need more of this type of discourse

  • @42Oismybirthday
    @42Oismybirthday 5 месяцев назад +3

    Great interview!! dgg 4 lyfe 🤙

  • @Trancer006
    @Trancer006 5 месяцев назад +2

    I can't believe they used that photo of him in the thumbnail. Game of Throws

  • @toxicwaltz0863
    @toxicwaltz0863 5 месяцев назад +3

    Give respect get respect

  • @DerUnbekannte
    @DerUnbekannte 5 месяцев назад +1

    pretty good conversation, cain is really good a keeping track of a lot of points

  • @PatKingCole
    @PatKingCole 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great conversation both were super respectful

  • @Zymandis
    @Zymandis 5 месяцев назад +2

    They got this strong woman on Fox. Truly he has made it 🥲

  • @soyuzsovietsky
    @soyuzsovietsky 5 месяцев назад +1

    Wow I didn’t expect to see Destiny on here! Great conversation.

  • @ur_really_salty
    @ur_really_salty 5 месяцев назад

    Will Cain has come so far first take with will, Max, and SAS was some good segments keep it up

  • @KuRnZ
    @KuRnZ 5 месяцев назад +8

    Cain: Tell me if I have this right. Bisexual. Open marriage. Now divorced. Ugh from the relationship that was an open marriage. Accurate?
    Destiny: yup
    Cain:.......* long awkward pause*

  • @lindaflesch7303
    @lindaflesch7303 5 месяцев назад +1

    50% of couples divorce, that's been a constant.

  • @therealtom
    @therealtom 5 месяцев назад +1

    Finally some diversity on Fox News

  • @LeslieGittins
    @LeslieGittins 4 месяца назад

    I'm late getting this in but just had to comment on the reason I don't watch you, and save your podcast to "listen to" on the weekend, I couldn't watch you put your hands on the microphone like you were caressing your wife's face, it drove me crazy, so when you brought it up the other day I was happy to know that I'm not the only one that couldn't watch it. I do enjoy listening to you and love the topics you pick to talk about!