(3.21-3.22) An actual tornado shot guide to reach billions of DPS - best bow build for any budget
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- Hey guys, re-upload of my first-ever video (corrected a few sound issues, and added a funny intro). Hopefully, this helps players to reach higher heights with their tornado shot build. If you have any questions, let me know in the comments and I'll answer you.
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0:00 Intro
3:48 Omni
6:20 Why tornado shot
7:54 Why physical to cold convert
8:44 Why DPS is important
10:25 Dealing high DPS, the basics
15:34 Crit chance
18:40 Berserk
19:37 How to get frenzy charges
20:56 Marks, Curse on hit
21:46 Billion DPS
23:35 The gear
28:48 Flasks
30:03 Passive tree
37:46 Skill gems
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This guide is incredible, I have talked about going a tornado shot character for a while, and this really helps a ton. Super pumped to grind currency for this build
The intro and second intro are both fantastic. I love this channel after just watching your 2nd released video. This is promising! Keep it up!
This, its an actual problem getting mid - end game details on most guides. A lot of this information can be picked up over time but its great to see it all in one place. Thank you!
Great video dude. Love to see detailed information for a build that I can aim for later on in the league, feels like there isn't enough of these when most videos are league start focused. Played Omni TS in the past but did not go for phys conversion on that build. This will come in handy if I want to re-do that build and push it further by going for phys.
Ty !
Just wanted to say that the intro is juat right 👌🏼
Keep up the good work, my dude!
This is so extremely helpful. Thank you very much for the guide. I hope that you can get the pob ready soon :)
Finally someone that understands me! The introduction just reflected myself following guides (1st real League playing here on 3.22)
this is the best poe video i have seen in a while first time i understood something that well in forever, props to you my man. now i just need a lvl 1 to 100 pob guide to go with it lul
I’ll try my best to do that, I usually don’t use that approach (hideout warrior ngl). A bit busy with life. Will try to do a smooth experience levelling guide for u guys before league start.
Pog@@mikoshomikoshi
Excellent build guide! With your explanations my understanding of Tornado Shot goes so much deeper. Phys to Cold! Yes, to me this is the key. Plus you showed an elegant solution for gaining Rage.
With my TS build I can clear T16 maps easily. But THIS guide goes far beyond!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with all of us.
Wish you a beautiful day. 🙂
By the way, you are not the only one "Non-native English speaker" 😀
i am so glad this was the first video when i found out about tornado shot build. very nice :D
Amazing strenght and time what you put in this video keep it up man!
Great stuff man, I have been playing poe pretty much since the start of the Alpha in 2011 when I saw a video Totalbiscuit (RIP) made about it, I still learned alot from this video, very well explained. Thank you.
In POE: More/Less is multiplicative and increased:decreased is additive damage.
Knowing this key detail changes all the computations when making a build and also lends to less confusion when actually doing the math and checking it against sources like POB.
Great content my dood! Subbed. Def looking forward to more content.
good stuff mate, keep it up
Awesome vid! Warched it all, being a poe newb. So interesting to learn how these mechanics work together😮
amazing guide thanks btw the intro is epic! ''she left you for him'' I died 😂
"re-mortgage your hideout" -- LOL -- that was hilarious!!! And I'm so glad you did this because I have sometimes felt how you described it!
This video was insane dude. Best iv seen in a long time. Keep em coming im subbing. Going tornado next season so this is golden! Hope u do the same with atlas progression, farming strats aso. Cause this approach is the best iv seen :) ill be watching ur videos going forward. Starting to watch ur 1-100 guide now! Thumbs up!
Good luck !
I've been playing poe for a very long time and this is legit one of the best vids I've ever seen lmao. What an opening
Thx !!
Amazing stuff. Keep it up.
I've watched streamers playing tornado shot well into leagues and i've never bothered trying for it always thinking it's out of reach. Love your explanations. Once I make currency gonna give it a try
Gonna be making a budget version soon enough !
After 3 days, following this guide, I can say that is my ultimate reference to tornado shot build. I've played when poe was released and just re-installed after 6 years. 3 things: 1) link to the build 2) link to a gdocuments with copy-paste of subtitles downloaded from youtube (in order to find keywords) 3) defence, ok kill fast, but on shoot for the budget there's quite few points
good detail, I learned quite a bit from this. Thanks.
hope that with your help, i finally can play a decent tornado shot after 4 leagues failing with it.... you have my sub man
same here :)
Hope you both have a mirror or 2 laying around for this gear.@@micayle12
You won't be the only one. I've been funding my casual gf iceshot every league since Harvest. From near mirror gear to starting at 10div. It hasn't succeeded but that's okay, I get to laugh at her trying every league 🤣
@@ibulleti7948for that gear ye, but that is overkill😂
so, how did it go?
Awesome fun intro, very informative and good content, ez sub
Much appreciated !
Strong work!
hmm seems like for the first time I have understood what crit chance and crit multi does . Thanks 🙏
thanks man really like your clarification
Great video, very usefull! Thanks
Fantastic content.
Discord server:
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Guys, I now know it's not how you pronounce it I'm sorry
tornado shot projectiles do not scale secondary projectiles the only way to get 4 secondary proj instead of 3 on tornado shot is enchantment on helmet, you can easily check that in game if you don't believe me
This video is insane, like i never saw something like this on RUclips, clear, smooth, pro, now we just need a levelling guide and an early progression in map with gems and gear for one day reach this kind of build, keep up man +1
thx man, will try before league start
Nice, it would be awesome, thank you so much, just found my league starter have a nice day @@mikoshomikoshi
I wouldn’t worry about league starting tornado shot honestly. You could very easily league start lightning arrow instead and then go into a god like TS build which is what a lot of people do
@@Chiefsia I suggest going rain of arrow. Just made a video on how to league start it.
Ah btw, 3 progression videos are up :)
If im not mistaken the TS does in fact not get additional secondary projectiles by having additional arrows. The base amount is 3 and than can further be increased by 1 with the helmet enchantment.
So if you have 1+4 arrows the maximum amount of secondary projectiles is 20 (if you are using the enchantment). The possible amount of hits per attack in this case is 6. That beeing said increasing the amount of arrows is always a good idea.
It used to give additional secondary projectiles, but it was too op and got removed
You probably also should have mentioned the alt quality Blood Rage which grants charges on hitting unique enemies; with the arrow counts of high budget TS, you can easily sustain it on single targets. Nice guide btw.
Our tree gives us frenzy gen for single target already, but it is a good idea. Thx
@@mikoshomikoshi yeah, that's true - it's a high price for the 1 point save for sure
This guide has big Savix vibes. Love it!
Great intro, very amusing
Omg i laughed so hard, found the transition from meme to serious hilarious xD
Great guide. Would be interesting to get a priority upgrade check list. I assume if you get a mirror (and have MB and basic gear) you'd probably mirror a phys bow first right? Whats next then? Also: what type of content would you suggest farming with a character that is this stacked? Crimson Temple MFing wouldnt work, since it difficult to incorporate enough MF into the build. So what other high div/h strategy would you use?
i wanted to do this league a tornado shot build now i know how! ty! :D
Woow that intro was phenomenal!❤❤ im a poe newb but Ill probably watch yhis just cuz of the intro
Absolute amazing guide!!! I feel in college class xD
absolute master class
Great guide. Thank you so much. Will you give us the Pob the next days? I want to try it myself
Very insightful, the clearest explanation of damage I’ve seen in a PoE video.
How would you recommend progressing a TS character all the way from league start to the levels you’ve shown in the video.
Also, what do you think is the dps number we should shoot for if we don’t care about bosses. And what are the ways we can incorporate QoL / movement speed at the cost of some dps?
What do you think of the kaoms setup, converting through the watchers eye and being ok w ~80% cold conversion and 20% random element conversion.
I would also like to add queen of the forest.
How would you recommend I incorporate such changes?
I think I’m going to make a progressing video soon if I have time but usually I tell to go ice shot (higher dps) and that would also mean not needing to re spec ur items/character once u go ts. The change could be anytime you feel comfy enough to change (I would aim one you get omni)
For the kaom gloves:
I’ve seen loads of player using it and I tried it myself, but I did not try a build around it. Although that means we get berserk up time pretty much at all times, I think that having life regen mods on certain gear instead of offensive or defensive mods will be not as strong. I think if you have a budget, that’s gloves are a fantastic option, as they give speed and damage and better survivability. I will look into that.
For queen of the forest, you would use this for extra movement speed ? If so, you would need a ton of evasion, I think that increased aura effects and mama reservation efficiency are way stronger (you can put a haste aura) and have all the added bonuses of making hatred stronger as well as the rest of your auras and heralds.
For speed, mb is the best, as a single well crafted flask can make you speedy. For more budget player, I think automatic flask can be useful as well as the haste aura.
Also for the dps needed without care of bosses
If you just wanna run through maps, I would say 300k dps per arrow (hideout dps)
If you want to do more juiced maps etc, 1M, as the mobs start to hurt and it’s better being able to kill them as fast as possible.
I think these numbers might seem high, but if done correctly and items crafted by oneself, it should ba achievable to most players pretty easily. Hope this helps
19:30 this slide here has increased and more the wrong way around. More is always multiplicative (a*b) while increased is additive (a+b) to any increases. Also notable for newer players who might not know, "enemy TAKES increased damage" is not the same as "player DEALS increased damage" since they cannot be added together as they get calculated at totally different times. This means "enemy takes increased damage" does stack additively with itself, but it multiplies with your damage dealt. This is what makes sniper's mark super powerful because if this is your only source of "enemy takes increased damage" that is just as good as a "deal more damage" multiplier of the same size.
Wow didnt know that! Thanks
Hey man! Great vid, this is really really in-depth. One thing I noticed really quickly though is that your volume on the video is really quiet - I had to double my master volume to listen to it at an audible level. Otherwise, this is the clearest explanation for high-investment scaling I have ever seen!
Thank you for the feedback, will work on it !
GMP (or other sources of additional arrows) does not scale the number of secondary projectiles per arrow. Only way to scale the number of secondary projectiles per arrow is the TS helm enchant.
Also the initial arrow does do damage. You can test this in-game and it becomes more obvious with slower projectile speed.
yes, was my mistake !
@@mikoshomikoshi you are special mate
@@achgehzu2125 why is that ?
Please give us a PoB.
This video is the best video i saw for bow builds in general.
Thanks a lot!
honestly youve done an amazing job covering literally everything you need to know! fantastic job sir! btw - is there any sort of avaliable POB? cant seem to find it! thanks again
in comments lmao
First of all, thanks for all the explanation, very insightfull. I just have to point out that when u address berserk, u say "more" in path of exile is additive to the buff in question, but its actually multiplicative. And it has to be multiplicative to increase damage by 40% always, or else depending on the inicial buff, the increase would be different. Also, the increase is not 40% but 44%, because its 1.2x 2 times, or 1.2^2, and tjata 1.44x damage mult
Subbed just for that intro.
TS secondary proj do NOT scale with extra arrows. The only way to increase that number is the helmet enchant.
If what you said was true all bow gems in the game would be useless since TS + GMP would already trump everything in the game. It's 15 not 35 arrows with just GMP.
Cool guide, that build looks amazeballs, but you saying omni-science is killin me! "Om-Nish-Ence"
amzaing video bro , i only found your video after i spent alot of divines on uselss gems like ballista totem which felt really bad cuz the build should be hit and run, will change to right gems.
with this video, I'm definitely gonna try to build one this league
Video guide are up, got 3 for now, 3 more to come, you should check them out :)
The guide is really detailed man, thanks for this, I'm looking to either transition from LA to TS or create a new character altogether.
In terms of feedback I would say:
- try to fill less space with uh, uhm and such.
- when you mess up something (like pronunciation or you read something wrong) re do it.
That is more video than guide related and in no way mandatory but I feel like they would make the quality go up.
I'd like to play this but automated on a ballista totem. I don't like attacking myself. Even if I lose 25% damage, surely it would be worth it for me if the ceiling is still 1 billion damage or more?
wow 50 sec in the video, bro just explained my whole ts gameplay
Ty for info! Like❤
First time trying TS after year after year of elementalist. Won't get the build right before 3.22 ends but at least I know what build will bring me joy next season.
excelent!
Can you please make a PoB for this? Doesn’t need to be extensive. Just the leveling sequence for the tree and skills would be sufficient with this great video.
Just earned a sub, although I am coming close to 1k hours on PoE, my knowledge is superficial at best, and still many easy builds I don't entirely understand how they work, except when I have XYZ items or passives I do what the guide says I'd do
1 min in, subscribed
Hey, what do you think, is it worth it sacrificing all your attribute travel nodes for proj speed/mark effext tattoos with an omni setup?
Omniscience is pronounced ahm-nish-ince. Great vid
can we get the pob for the passive tree for league start ?
This video is pog
Hello, really nice guide, gonna follow it for sure, just one question tho: you said that GMP does +4 proj for Tornado AND also for when it splits, isnt it better than the vicious projectile then?
was a mistake, not applied when it splits
Mark on hit / Sniper's Mark / Enhance is a stand alone link it will apply the mark when you hit an enemy with an attack, mark on hit cannot support bloodrage steelskin or berserk.
The first arrow does deal damage, it hits and peirces. Go try it, have the monster beside you and shoot far away. The monster will get hit once before the secondary projectiles come back
Thank you for the feedback, will test !
@@mikoshomikoshi yea to maximize damage you're supposed to aim behind the monsters to get a free hit from initial arrow. (i've heard this long time ago from grimro i think)
@@KingOfHell94correct
Question: if one would choose this as a build for his first character, do u have to start with something like rain of arrows or lightning arrow for leveling until u switch to tornado shot in late maps?
Or how would u approach this?
Ty
I go split arrow (I know I’m weird let me be) and shrapnell ballista, then rain of arrows, then ballista totem. I switch to ice shot or ts only once I have better gear. The raider ascendancy I find is better in the beginning.
@@mikoshomikoshi nice, was also thinking to go raider until i switch over. Nice to see that other, more knowledgeable people, have the same ideas as you. Ty for confirmation!
Just watched this video. You just earned yourself a new followe/sub. Currently playing LA and as of now saving up for a Headhunter. But when i saw this video i thought about if i should switch over to omni TS instead of buying headhunter. I currently have 65 divines . What are your thoughts?
Hey, 65 div is plenty ok, especially if you already have La (hopefully with omni already). I suggest u get omni if not, and switching to omni I say costs the price of omni +10-20 div for better gear and omni gear (if you use hyrri chest, keep it until phys to cold convert).
new game take a shot every time he says umm! lol
I was wondering if any chance you could also make a ts build with the original sin ring. I know it's probably gonna have to be on standard but would be cool to see cause i want to change my ts build into the chaos version and try it out incase i don't like the league mechanic 😊
Hi, I think OS is back in 3.22. Not sure if I will make a video on that, but if it becomes a better alternative, I will make it. That would be a bit later during the league as I am quite busy for the next 2 weeks and I need to get some currency running before going ts.
@@mikoshomikoshi ah okay cool yeah I wasn't sure if it was gonna be in the league or just in standard. I saw some videos on it but they weren't to informational and it's all good. If you are able to do it later on that would be cool but if not that's okay too. Im probably gonna do a poison tornado shot this league and give it a try and see if I like it
awesome video, skill tree or pob available yet?
Really nice guide. As other pointed the mic is really low, now I'm just asking on how it performs when you try to build it yourself as a league start.
It seems very fun to do since the maximum build cost feels like infinite
Going to try and make a build from scratch, but if you want a competitive league start I do not suggest it.
@@mikoshomikoshi i only care about the fun not the competition ! And always if i can't get past a certain wall i will just farm with RF like everyone
How do you calculate the dmg gain from the +1 additional secondary arrow from the helm enchant? lets say you have 10 arrow +4 secondary per arrow, so 40 arrow per attack, then 15 arrow for my build, but i have the +2 secondary enchant in standard, how do you calculate it in pob? For me it says same dps as i have +1 secondary or +2, its really off in pob, is there a way to calculate it?
Only one secondary proj can deal damage. Getting +1 or +2 is only making higher chance of actually hitting the enemy or for clear.
Could you share your POB to copy your tree?
Omniscience: All of the science
Nice dood thx
Content Update 3.23.0 -- Path of Exile: Affliction
The Heatshiver Unique Helmet now has "Gain 30% of Cold Damage as Extra Fire Damage against Frozen Enemies" (previously 100%). Existing items can be made worse with a Divine Orb.
Is there another way for cold conversion that would allow the use of Kaom's Spirit?
And what exactly is the use of your Manaforged Arrow setup? You talk about how you have 100% crit chance so I don't see how the power charges help you and you will be at maximum Frenzy Charges long before Manaforged arrows trigger.
And Mark on hit is not limited to the duration of Blood Rage or Steelskin. A two link setup of Mark + Mark on hit will also apply the mark (at least it did so last league when I ran Poacher's Mark + Mark on hit)
You can not get full cold conversion without gloves (you can get full conversion itself tho from anomalous TS) this will reduce the dmg u gain from hatred
great video, picked up quite a few bits of knowledge.
now i get why you want to go for deadeye in order to achieve giga dps. but i want to build a character like this, that is more versatile. for this want to build on raider with frenzy & onslaught ascendencys, to scale dmg of attackspeed & frenzy charge count and have a much higher evade chance. basically i'm going for a character with decent/good dps with reasonable survivability, able to do a large variety of content (bossing, delving 350+, maybe even simulacrum).
do you think i can pull this off on raider, or will the dmg falloff be to big compared to deadeye? (some additional info: i'm not the most experienced player & i play ssf, but i do expect to have at least omni & mageblood within a couple of weeks. farming unique jewels etc. will be more of a struggle for me)
100% ssf ? If so, you can always make a tanky version of this build. The thing is, raider gives onslaught and good suppression, but with mb and good gear, getting those is pretty easy. I still suggest going deadeye, because going for défense will lower your dps, so going for a higher dps ascendancy I think is better. Now I’m not a pro delver with bow builds, so you are going to have to do a bit of research (i might come back to this comment later if u have an answer). Good luck tho
that was a lightning fast response :D yes 100% ssf, i like it more than trade league even though reaching full potential on builds is quite a hard climb. i will definitely play around with it, start off on deadeye then maybe try out how raider feels and feel it out as i get more gear. for something like delve i will definitely need to able to tank a couple hits.
but for now i'm still busy with my league starter but i'm so much looking forward to try out the bow @@mikoshomikoshi
@@casualsinner if you are starting from scratch I suggest you go raider first with rain of arrows. I have 3 videos up for now
got you, thanks for the suggestion, i'll come back to it once i start leveling the character :)@@mikoshomikoshi
Currently I am playing standard and I have a legacy Reach of the Council 473dps with 4 additional arrows. Is this good enough? Also, is HH better for mapping? I also have a pair of boots with tailwind and onslaught...is it just a better option to get onslaught on a flask? Thanks and good video sir!
no, OS on gloves is ok, get dmg flask instead, reach of council as long as u have enough dps should l be ok
Great guide, would be great if you could delve deeper into the pre-omni route for early leagues. Besides that, what are your thoughts on the tattoos?
4 other videos on how to make build from scratch
@@mikoshomikoshiWow, didn't see that. For anyone else wandering, they are on miko's channel
How about the black sun helm? Should I swap it for heatshiver when im running omni?
Just reached mageblood, your gear is crazy. Imho a crafting guide for rings/boots helps a lot
I like this. I will sub and hope for a crafting guide, since that is what I struggle with most in this game.
Btw, are you french by any chance?
1:15 is all I needed to sub
Assuming I can’t get Omniscience and not even a (very) high pDpS bow because I‘m playing a certain game mode, would it still be worth it to go pure phys to cold?
I could definitely get conversion and Hatred+Aura Effect sorted out and already have a Heatshiver.
Well if u won’t get that much of a good bow mah e better to stick to Trinity
you are a god
Great intro!
I followed 1 tornado shot guide in the past. Got to lvl 70ish. I did absolutely no damage. Couldn't do a yellow map.
Seems like u are not good player yet. With 3.21 changes u can play tornado shot with some shit ele bow and trinity and blast red maps.
Good luck on your second time !
Hello did you consider adding tatoos ? specialy the +1 additional projectile, and the jewel that double tatoo ? I think it can be a big upgrade
Will ne done n’est vidéo maybe
Hey man! Great video :D is it worth to use the +1 Projectile Tattoo even though you loose omni for that?
Yeah worth it, just one (max 2)
23:25 i thought double dipping (generic increases applying before and after conversion) was removed many many leagues ago?
crazy dps build!! xDD and very nice "detailed" guide to the dmg scaling (easy to understand simplification)! still dont know about the omni thing same as the trinity thing in other builds. will try some of your ideas in 3.22 but i will change some stuff because im a rebel and an idiot in poe and like to change things :) But i think you should have another look at mark on hit again, because thats not how it works...its even better/easier (divergent and enhance looks intresting though)!!! btw is the mouseclick intended to be that loud =??xDD
The mic picks up everything lmao. Will add corrections when re doing this video (made few mistakes) thx for feedback !
@@mikoshomikoshimark on hit works already when you only have it linked with the mark! i think you should keep the click sound tbh!´its something that makes your vids remarkable and for new ppl to understand quicker thats a new"topic" or whatever. idk do what you want/doing good already🤘
Im new to POE trying for this build, is there a bigger talent tree? Hard to see where the points are allocated at.
I have a question about elemental penetratio, you said : 100 dmg 0% pen vs -50% res = 150dmg. If you have half of what you have (resistance), shouldn't I double of my damage?
I have arround 10 div and 400 chaos at the moment, what pob should i follow ? there's a ton on your discord and im kind a lost.