You know, when you mentioned ants, it reminded me of the ink tank breakdown on the episode all about Upchuck's homeworld, or rather, former homeworld. Anyway, both Ash and Kuro came to the same conclusion about ants, and they spent a reasonable amount of time just talking about them. Now, with this video, I'm starting to think that Upchuck's entire race is an alien reptile/blob equivalent of ants. Lol
Okay this was GREAT! I love biology/zoology and so seeing someone tackle fictional aliens with real world science and coming to a logical conclusion that no one (that I know of) has pointed out before
I've always found upchuck so weird because he's the only alien who's entire biology changed cause classic was supposed to be an amoeba but by uaf he'd become a lizard. It's such a weird case since i don't think any other alien has had something like that happen since for all it's continuity issues ben 10 is normally really good with keeping the alien's biology consistent. I don't even like upchuck but this is one of the weirdest things in the franchise to me
Having water powers and being red dosent automatically make overflow a water hazard clone, water hazard has control over all states of water (taking monster out of the air) and and uses more practical applications of his skill whereas overflow has a metallic body can breath under water and uses more creative uses often to do with movment options such as a water jetpack or propelling themselves underwater like a torpedo and seems to specialize specifically in controlling the pressure of their water but can't control water in states of mater other then liquid (as far as I'm aware, I can't watch all the seasons of the reboot where I live)
I think the "Viet-nom" event happened because one bad day or one bad planet just like what happened to the Joker. It drove some to insanity while others need to fend them off.
Kiri no! You're gonna shatter all the degenerate artists! They can't take this knowledge! Kiri! Kiriii! Kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiriiiiiiiiiiiii! Wonder how long this is gonna go. Heckwah 🐉
First off: smash. Second: I think the size difference between perk and murk comes from the perks stretchy skin, which probably allows for more growth. Now third off: I have a potential Video Idea. What would the Omnitrix record if it scanned something that mixes genomes, like xenomorphs and Tyrannids? Would it create a "pure" genome? Would it mix (users species) with the new DNA? Would it create a menu where you can mix and match genes? Tyranids for example specifically create new Organisms of themselves when getting new genes to counter certain Enemies (like Space Marines), so I'd be super interested about this!
Thinking on it maybe Beast nostrils are adapted gills, simply his species adapted them as sensors orgabs rather than a nose for the lubgs, maybe their unknow home world is so dark that not even the most primitive creatures developed eyes and by consecuence noses at have more space to bigger and efficient gills And in case of upchuck there is no reason to develop a noce when your race can ingest a small building of anything (including air) in one go. In fact maybe they not only store energy, they could store oxigen in their bellies(its a pocket dimensions ) and the gills are to release the co2 for it they don't need to breath in space. PD: i put oxigen and co2 to relate they could breath nitrogen for example or something like that.
There was an instance where somebody asked to DJW the species of the queen gourmand and he actually give it a name, i do mention it because i can't find it anywhere aaaah also cool video, love to see people trying to explain what the series mean with subspecies because even in reality is a concept hard to explain
The perk not being able to eat organic stuff was retconned in OV via statement and I believe Ben 23 as Vomit Man ate a mutated carrot. Other than this, great video.
I like how you brought up the idea that when Gwen became a Gourmand, she may have become a queen...its likely the Omnitrix sample for Gourmand is from a Queen, that way its 1 sample that holds the genetic material for 3 different transformations, 2 of which are exclusive to biologically male users and 1 of which is exclusive to biological female users of the Omnitrix
Wow. Ok. Seriously. This video had so much Upchuck lore that I didn't even know existed. Like my mind is blown because I didn't know like 99% of these, also explain why the Omnitrix has 2 Upchuck sub-species. Still can't believe they have a Pocket Dimension in the stomach and have eaten entire planets 11 times like WHAT 🤯. As always this is an awesome video
I mean, for me and in my headcanon and comic, Perks have 4 tongues, an overbite, gelatine/ amoeba like features, and four stomachs, and cannot eat organic matter, and Murks have one tongue, lizard/frog like features, and one stomach, and can eat organic matter, so like I have that, so that’s how they are subspecies to me
I had a personal theory that loadstar is subspecies of heatblast. my reasoning: both have telekinesis like powers specialized to like one type of thing loadstar can manipulate magnetism, heatblast can manipulate fire. both are made of inorganic like stuff with loadstar looking more refine, which could explain why he can manipulate metal. And both probably don’t have necks. I dare you to find me one scene where we can see heatblast neck.
As an additional deterant against the different races are different species bs from 8:01 , there are more points of differentiation between short people and tall people that can be used to categorise us as different species than there are points for the races of humans
1:50 thanks for traumatizing us Kiri ;-; 6:36 and here we go again, you're lucky i'm watching dis out of meals, otherwise i'd become another subspecies of gourmand "the Alez Upchuck" 😹😹😹 (also, smash)
I'd be interested to see what would happen if the gut dimensions 'gut ecosystem' got out of control. Like how when ours gets unhappy we get sick and unwell but on a huge scale
nice video as for upchuk organs belive his stomach an inflateable baloon to the pocket dimension that can grow bigger to swallow bigger stuff while the organs mae to get used to it compress a little for space for the stomach similar to different animal breeds having something than the other while others have the ability and for the mother we could say a hybrid of both species creting for different parts of herself similar to different type of breeding for something different and specific love the video by the way
Very fun speculative biology. Not quite the real life definition of “sub-species” but that’s more on the writers than you. Seems like the more accurate term would be “castes” from some quick googling, but I’m not 100% sure. This conversation kinda makes me curious about Eatle’s species. I have a theory that it might be somewhat similar to this, with the two we’ve seen being the same species but different castes. Perhaps the UA version, being more armored and combat capable, act as soldiers, while the OV version acts as like, stay-at-home husbands/reverse harem for their queen who, like the Gourmand queen, has elements of both, being more insectoid than UA Eatle, and more armored than OV Eatle. Also, gotta love the “stop being horny” part. Knowing some of the fetishes I’ve seen online, I doubt any of the info in this video would prevent people from wanting to *smash* a Gourmand.
To me the gut dimension is too far of a stretch(pun intended), but then again the transformers in animated(same universe as omniverse) had pocket dimensions built within their chasis. I often wonder if Derrick didn't get to explain on Animated and decided to go full out on Omniverse with wacky science-fantasy. Hence after getting done with Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporate he felt like "After doing such a dark show that cartoon network didn't want in the first place, and not getting to do my artistic wackyness Imma go full on out" In omniverse Derrick does have throw backs to TF Animated, and SD Incorporated so this was the last show he had full free range on.
While i agree that other races are not "subspecies" of eachother, there are more differences than just melanin levels, like how most asians are lactose intolerant because they're descended from people who didn't live off of milk as much as other races, so their bodies aren't developed in a way that ingests lactose. (I know partially because im one of those asians). The factors of how our race developed and what they survived on is a good chunk of what makes each race just a little bit biologically different.
The real question is, how the heck does an entire species end up sharing an internal pocket dimension?! Like, for things like flight we have the proposed first step of climbing, then jumping good from tree to tree, then gliding from tree to tree, then powered flight. Was there a gourmand ancestor with non-euclidean organs before hand or... what?!
It's probably like how there are multiple specific frequencies of radio waves. Maybe it's the same with dimensions, and the upchucs all evolved to have the same frequency of dimension or something like that.
A good example of subspecies on Earth is dog breeds. Like seriously, you cant convince me that Pugs and Golden Retreivers arent different subspecies. But cat breeds, besides those furless cats, are all the same subspecies, because they are all basicaly the same, the furless cats have 1 major difference that makes them feel different.
In inktank their sane man become a god in comic, might try to takeover your universe but be the one will kill our villain mech genocide physopath threat. I can tell devinity and your 🤖 villain wi hate eachother
Adding idea of a subspecies in the omnitrix was a mistake, it doesn't change anything exept adds many senseless discutions. This doesn't work becouse term of subspeacies and speacies is manmade and doesn't exist from genetic point of view
Meh it’s just Sci-fi wackiness, apparently Anodites don’t have DNA for some reason and there are literal robots that are aliens (the synthroids). Ben 10s always had weird biology stuff.
… listen, I’m sure this was a mistake but I’m going to just tell you one thing that kept annoying me during this video. You kept claiming that the M sub species can’t stretch as much… and all I’m going to say is, watch inspector 13.
I addressed the Inspector 13 thing as part of the theory, actually! You're right tho, that was smth that I remembered midway through editing and had to scramble to find an answer for hehe
"Viet-nom" that gave me a good chuckle.
An up chuckle?????
@@jamesbyrne3316Damn it why was that so funny?
"Ahh my boy, The Gastro-Gummy Bear!!!"
-O.R ASH
You know, when you mentioned ants, it reminded me of the ink tank breakdown on the episode all about Upchuck's homeworld, or rather, former homeworld. Anyway, both Ash and Kuro came to the same conclusion about ants, and they spent a reasonable amount of time just talking about them. Now, with this video, I'm starting to think that Upchuck's entire race is an alien reptile/blob equivalent of ants. Lol
Welcome back to ant facts, with Kuro and Ash, it just made me laugh
7:08 smash, next question
Screw red and blue pill which gourmand are you siding with during the war
The explanation of Gormand subspecies makes so much sense
Okay this was GREAT! I love biology/zoology and so seeing someone tackle fictional aliens with real world science and coming to a logical conclusion that no one (that I know of) has pointed out before
That's pretty much what I do with all my videos, so you might have just found the place for you lol
I've always found upchuck so weird because he's the only alien who's entire biology changed cause classic was supposed to be an amoeba but by uaf he'd become a lizard. It's such a weird case since i don't think any other alien has had something like that happen since for all it's continuity issues ben 10 is normally really good with keeping the alien's biology consistent. I don't even like upchuck but this is one of the weirdest things in the franchise to me
Well water hazard changed from a oyster to a crab (as all things should)
@@Artesfol Then got replaced by a robot in the Reboot and is named after an "Anime"
Having water powers and being red dosent automatically make overflow a water hazard clone, water hazard has control over all states of water (taking monster out of the air) and and uses more practical applications of his skill whereas overflow has a metallic body can breath under water and uses more creative uses often to do with movment options such as a water jetpack or propelling themselves underwater like a torpedo and seems to specialize specifically in controlling the pressure of their water but can't control water in states of mater other then liquid (as far as I'm aware, I can't watch all the seasons of the reboot where I live)
I think the "Viet-nom" event happened because one bad day or one bad planet just like what happened to the Joker. It drove some to insanity while others need to fend them off.
this made me remember that pluto was destroyed in the ben 10 universe...AND NOBODY EVER FIXED IT.
1:50 ALL TOMORROWS MENTIONED RAAAAAH 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥💯💯
I love the idea that one planet can have multiple species in the omnitrix including subspecies like this and I think you are correct about the gormon
Kiri no! You're gonna shatter all the degenerate artists! They can't take this knowledge! Kiri! Kiriii! Kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiriiiiiiiiiiiii!
Wonder how long this is gonna go.
Heckwah 🐉
First off: smash.
Second:
I think the size difference between perk and murk comes from the perks stretchy skin, which probably allows for more growth.
Now third off:
I have a potential Video Idea. What would the Omnitrix record if it scanned something that mixes genomes, like xenomorphs and Tyrannids? Would it create a "pure" genome? Would it mix (users species) with the new DNA?
Would it create a menu where you can mix and match genes? Tyranids for example specifically create new Organisms of themselves when getting new genes to counter certain Enemies (like Space Marines), so I'd be super interested about this!
I think it would be pure in the prime continuity and mix and match in the reboot continuity.
I really wonder what Ben would then turn into. A "pure xenomorph" sounds kinda dope. But I can't imagine what its anatomy would be like.
that menu reminds me of the 5YL Omnitrix's parasite selection thing
This was fun getting to know what makes them a sub species and explained it to us and lest go i got the lost pol right!
12:46 Hey, Kiri, if you’re by chance reading this; you’re work is amazing, hilariously, and I’m here for the long haul, and happily so
I am honoured x
Mole rats also have queens, which based on how they look leads me to believe the species might have some tie to them.
12:41 Hey I know that guy, he’s me
Thinking on it maybe Beast nostrils are adapted gills, simply his species adapted them as sensors orgabs rather than a nose for the lubgs, maybe their unknow home world is so dark that not even the most primitive creatures developed eyes and by consecuence noses at have more space to bigger and efficient gills
And in case of upchuck there is no reason to develop a noce when your race can ingest a small building of anything (including air) in one go.
In fact maybe they not only store energy, they could store oxigen in their bellies(its a pocket dimensions ) and the gills are to release the co2 for it they don't need to breath in space.
PD: i put oxigen and co2 to relate they could breath nitrogen for example or something like that.
Yay new vid proceeds to ascend this plane of existence out of joy
7:55
I’m calling your bluff..
Blut-glan-ah-ton-tua-blah-guy!?
There was an instance where somebody asked to DJW the species of the queen gourmand and he actually give it a name, i do mention it because i can't find it anywhere aaaah
also cool video, love to see people trying to explain what the series mean with subspecies because even in reality is a concept hard to explain
Come for the ben 10
Stay for the biology class with kiri
As always amazing video
I've always seen Upchuck as a worm-like creature.
I came to basically the same conclusion on my own, but exposition and explanation is very well done.
QUEEN *(Insert Incoherent Gibberish)* 8:15
This video was a smash hit, like usual.
The perk not being able to eat organic stuff was retconned in OV via statement and I believe Ben 23 as Vomit Man ate a mutated carrot. Other than this, great video.
I like how you brought up the idea that when Gwen became a Gourmand, she may have become a queen...its likely the Omnitrix sample for Gourmand is from a Queen, that way its 1 sample that holds the genetic material for 3 different transformations, 2 of which are exclusive to biologically male users and 1 of which is exclusive to biological female users of the Omnitrix
Hungry Smash 💥 ( Super hangery )
The gourmands are another instance of ben 10 aliens not fiting the human definition of sex, since a perk or murk would become a queen when needed
This might actually be your best video so far, you've outdone yourself and I congratulate you!
I think you did a really good job here and also algorithm
Wow. Ok. Seriously. This video had so much Upchuck lore that I didn't even know existed. Like my mind is blown because I didn't know like 99% of these, also explain why the Omnitrix has 2 Upchuck sub-species. Still can't believe they have a Pocket Dimension in the stomach and have eaten entire planets 11 times like WHAT 🤯. As always this is an awesome video
Loved the video! Keep up the good work bestie!!
2:20 someone's speaking from experience
I mean, for me and in my headcanon and comic, Perks have 4 tongues, an overbite, gelatine/ amoeba like features, and four stomachs, and cannot eat organic matter, and Murks have one tongue, lizard/frog like features, and one stomach, and can eat organic matter, so like I have that, so that’s how they are subspecies to me
1:49 W All Tomorrows reference!
7:11
Guess his cheeks is so big that the face couldn’t take more, so they had to transfer some of it
Perky murky milkers
Great work as always! Hope you're having a good day
I had a personal theory that loadstar is subspecies of heatblast. my reasoning: both have telekinesis like powers specialized to like one type of thing loadstar can manipulate magnetism, heatblast can manipulate fire. both are made of inorganic like stuff with loadstar looking more refine, which could explain why he can manipulate metal. And both probably don’t have necks. I dare you to find me one scene where we can see heatblast neck.
There are times in Classic when Heatblast gets put out and we can see his neck.
@@idle_speculation maybe I can’t remember getting a good look at it
Comment train!
Choochoo 🚂😂
Choochoo
Ah yes. Perk upchuck, also known as *the pogger*
Choo Choo Cha Cha
Wonder why Miasmander looks like them... 🤔
why they be looking like alien beavers on drugs
Very insightful
As an additional deterant against the different races are different species bs from 8:01 , there are more points of differentiation between short people and tall people that can be used to categorise us as different species than there are points for the races of humans
I totally think they are a kind of dinosaur.
1:50 thanks for traumatizing us Kiri ;-; 6:36 and here we go again, you're lucky i'm watching dis out of meals, otherwise i'd become another subspecies of gourmand "the Alez Upchuck" 😹😹😹 (also, smash)
I'd be interested to see what would happen if the gut dimensions 'gut ecosystem' got out of control. Like how when ours gets unhappy we get sick and unwell but on a huge scale
nice video as for upchuk organs belive his stomach an inflateable baloon to the pocket dimension that can grow bigger to swallow bigger stuff while the organs mae to get used to it compress a little for space for the stomach similar to different animal breeds having something than the other while others have the ability and for the mother we could say a hybrid of both species creting for different parts of herself similar to different type of breeding for something different and specific love the video by the way
Weridly omniverse gave the murks the four green tounges.
I double dog dare you to make this a series
Upchuck can eat a lot, but not as much as MY MOM
7:15 friendly fire
Very fun speculative biology. Not quite the real life definition of “sub-species” but that’s more on the writers than you. Seems like the more accurate term would be “castes” from some quick googling, but I’m not 100% sure.
This conversation kinda makes me curious about Eatle’s species. I have a theory that it might be somewhat similar to this, with the two we’ve seen being the same species but different castes. Perhaps the UA version, being more armored and combat capable, act as soldiers, while the OV version acts as like, stay-at-home husbands/reverse harem for their queen who, like the Gourmand queen, has elements of both, being more insectoid than UA Eatle, and more armored than OV Eatle.
Also, gotta love the “stop being horny” part. Knowing some of the fetishes I’ve seen online, I doubt any of the info in this video would prevent people from wanting to *smash* a Gourmand.
okay, how tf did I understand what was being said in 8:16???
“Smash”
Gormund armor seems to exist only as helmets so thats a point twords the organs in the head.
so basicklu upchuck are like richard from amazing world of gumball
To me the gut dimension is too far of a stretch(pun intended), but then again the transformers in animated(same universe as omniverse) had pocket dimensions built within their chasis. I often wonder if Derrick didn't get to explain on Animated and decided to go full out on Omniverse with wacky science-fantasy. Hence after getting done with Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporate he felt like "After doing such a dark show that cartoon network didn't want in the first place, and not getting to do my artistic wackyness Imma go full on out" In omniverse Derrick does have throw backs to TF Animated, and SD Incorporated so this was the last show he had full free range on.
8:00 That was a stupid question , I asked😂
While i agree that other races are not "subspecies" of eachother, there are more differences than just melanin levels, like how most asians are lactose intolerant because they're descended from people who didn't live off of milk as much as other races, so their bodies aren't developed in a way that ingests lactose. (I know partially because im one of those asians). The factors of how our race developed and what they survived on is a good chunk of what makes each race just a little bit biologically different.
The real question is, how the heck does an entire species end up sharing an internal pocket dimension?! Like, for things like flight we have the proposed first step of climbing, then jumping good from tree to tree, then gliding from tree to tree, then powered flight. Was there a gourmand ancestor with non-euclidean organs before hand or... what?!
It's probably like how there are multiple specific frequencies of radio waves. Maybe it's the same with dimensions, and the upchucs all evolved to have the same frequency of dimension or something like that.
Maybe before they evolved to have the same pocket dimension, they had separate ones
Maybe one of them studied magic and mutated their entire species.
A good example of subspecies on Earth is dog breeds. Like seriously, you cant convince me that Pugs and Golden Retreivers arent different subspecies. But cat breeds, besides those furless cats, are all the same subspecies, because they are all basicaly the same, the furless cats have 1 major difference that makes them feel different.
So does ben have a queen gourmand transformation?
Ok viet-nom is kinda funny
Comment for the algorithm!
So, ants eat and destroy planets, SO COOL,
In inktank their sane man become a god in comic, might try to takeover your universe but be the one will kill our villain mech genocide physopath threat. I can tell devinity and your 🤖 villain wi hate eachother
nah, ill stay horni
Nomp
Upchuck is actually one of my favorite aliens from the original series
But that omniverse episode? Cringe imo
Adding idea of a subspecies in the omnitrix was a mistake, it doesn't change anything exept adds many senseless discutions. This doesn't work becouse term of subspeacies and speacies is manmade and doesn't exist from genetic point of view
Meh it’s just Sci-fi wackiness, apparently Anodites don’t have DNA for some reason and there are literal robots that are aliens (the synthroids). Ben 10s always had weird biology stuff.
@@CrocsFortress don't forget aliens who straight up have powers that are beyond biology
I.e. Gravattack, Upgrade, Alien X, Big Chill, etc.
… listen, I’m sure this was a mistake but I’m going to just tell you one thing that kept annoying me during this video. You kept claiming that the M sub species can’t stretch as much… and all I’m going to say is, watch inspector 13.
I addressed the Inspector 13 thing as part of the theory, actually! You're right tho, that was smth that I remembered midway through editing and had to scramble to find an answer for hehe
Are... are Gourmants just Ugandan Knuckles?!