Nice to see a car company that makes an estate in this day and age. Generally speaking, far more room and practicality than the SUVs that everybody seems to want.
@@nekite1 The Jogger is based on the Sandero. The front of the car until the B-pillar is 100% Sandero, from B-pillar backwards it has a slightly raised roof.
@@chrishart8548 Agreed. The problem is that Ford, Vauxhall and other companies no longer make these 7 seater MPVs (I'd say that's a better description). I've got a 64 reg Fprd C Max Grand 1.6 diesel. Ford stopped making C Maxes in 2019, likewise Vauxhall stopped making the Zafira Tourer around the same time. At the time, those two models were probably the best selling MPVs in the UK, sadly they're no longer available, along with many other companies' MPVs., including the S Max, Touran, Alhambra, Galaxy etc. I tend to buy Fords, they no longer manufacture a new car of theirs I'd want to buy.
I love my Jogger TCE. Coming off two Golf Rs. Couldn't be more different. But the Dacia makes me happy every time I get in it. Because in a world of bloated tech, features and design, this one's an honest car, and incredibly practical. I just love it.
I have had mine for 18 months now and am very satisfied with it. It drives nice and smoothly once you get used to not rushing the gear changes, being gentle on the accelerator and not braking aggressively. It is definitely a car for doing long journeys in, with a nice relaxed and comfortable feel to it. The second row cup holders are in the pop up trays by the way, you just need to pull the trays towards you to expose them. Also there are second row seat belt parking slots to prevent the belts chaffing when tipping them forward. All in all I am one very satisfied first time owner of a Dacia and will certainly be looking to trade in for a newer model when my current PCP is near renewal.
Euro NCAP has made itself a joke. By basing its supposed safety ratings on all the electronic warnings that everyone turns off. I care about how a car is in a crash - I don't want it to tell me how to drive. Also, some of these are downright dangerous - annoying bongs are one thing, but if I go over the white line on the side of the road to avoid an oncoming lorry, I do not want 'autosteer' to steer me into the path of the lorry. (Happened to my wife in a rented car - she had no idea such a thing existed.)
Other thing unexpected thing to watch out for is that 'autosteer' can react to the white line that marks the side of the road- tries to drive you head on into oncoming vehicles on narrow roads.
After bad experiences having to drive a wheelchair adapted minibus with 'lane assist' on rural Scottish roads one Summer, I know I will never own a vehicle with this feature. Far too irritating, and also imo, possibly dangerous.
I certainly don't dislike it, lots to be said for relatively simple cars! I've recently bought a new Jimny on similar lines, wanting a vehicle which is an antidote to the generic "smart phone" car most manufacturers are churning out. Much as I love old cars too... there is much to be said for something hassle free when you have a busy life- the enjoyment for the old timers is then bolstered.
Three years with a Duster has shown me that Dacia understands how much of a car people actually need not all the silly add ons that I have experienced with "more premium" motor cars. I LIKE buttons and twirly knobs over screens and menus so its a relief that cars like this are still sold. I have no need for a 7 seater nowadays but I can see the attraction for families. Also I like my Duster in UN black and white spec but that khaki and bronze is very nice.
The one single thing that disappoints me is the electronic handbrake, I hate them with a passion. Other than that it looks like the fine replacement for my wife's Logan MCV that has been problem free for the 8 years she's owned it.
Ian the rear seatbelt trapping, in the video where you showed the mark on the belt @12:45 next to the belt is an oblong hole in the trim, if you plug the male part of the belt into that hole it holds the belt away from the seat catch.
I absolutely love dacia. Simple cars that work and at an appropriate price. The jogger is by far my favorite. I personally would have the hybrid as I need an auto. Thank you Mr and Mrs hubnut for the great review. Much love.
Honestly, I fell in love with it when I saw it in the dealer when looking at dusters. Everytime I see it I can't help but admire it. Looks the perfect all round car, pack loads in, great for holidays and adventures, carry loads of people, never thought they were slow when driving behind em. Plus the interior looks surprisingly rugged yet sharp. Can't wait to finish watching your review
Since Fatalities in Traffic Acidents continue to rise again (after a Low in 90s and 00s) despite the increased Safety Features, i cant help but to wonder if we reached a Point of diminishing Returns where more "Safety" makes us actualy less safe.🤔
@@HubNut my Guess is that it's a whole Laundry List of Problems, from limited Visibility to a "Safety is the Manufacturers Responsibility" (and of Course Mobile Phones).
@@NeilBarratt fun fact: my dads Mazda tells him that he should pay Attention to his suroundings whenever he starts it, thus of course distracting him from the abovementioned suroundings.
That multimedia stalk is the easiest thing to use. You don't need to see it, I learned to use it by clicking things and in a couple of seconds I knew what does what. I've had two Renaults and I genuinly miss this stalk so much, that even after a year and a half of driving my C5 2015, my hand sometimes go behind the steering wheel to change volume
That’s a superb car as are all modern Dacias. I wouldn’t hestitate buying the Jogger. It would suit your family down to the ground, assuming it can tow your trailer-tent. The lack of intrusive tech is a bonus even though it loses stars as a result. My choice would be the Duster and it’s a pity that they no longer offer the rather superb 1.5 diesel Renault K9K engine. Having said that, the latest petrol engines almost equal its fuel economy and petrol is cheaper and less bother for town driving.
They don’t want you running the engine if you’re not going anywhere or at least sat in the drivers seat. Also using the screen washing jets while stationary - my wife does it all the time leaving coloured steaks all over her white car. yellow at the moment, the next tub of screen wash is green. I quite like pink but I digress.
There is a seat belt clasp slot in the c pillar just forward of the seat clamp hoop but in reality no one really uses them because they are a faf to use.
I like the fact that it’s an estate car and not an SUV for a start and I for one love the practicality of a seven seater. I can’t help but compare it to my nearly-twenty year old 2005 Renault Grand Scenic ‘Genevieve’ She had more room in the back seats but not in the rear most seats (they are fine for my grandchildren though) plus she has cup holders in the rear picnic tables. I do love the higher driving position in my car though. That said, if I was in the market for a new seven seat car I’d probably give this a look. For now though Genevieve is still going strong. Another great video. Very informative as usual.
Euro NCAP is now a measure of how dangerous a car is. More annoying safety aids the higher the rating. Having them all enabling automatically on every startup earns extra stars. Hence why that now happens on most cars! Every time I read a car magazine the letters section or road test features a time where it's nearly caused them to crash! Same with the awful touch sensitive or HVAC in the touch screen. 3 star for child protection is a little concerning though.
I run a 2016 Suzuki Baleno which also has a 1 litre 3 cylinder turbo charged engine - the car is very light and pulls well - I'm getting between 58 and 60 mpg. This Dacia is quite impressive!
I had a Baleno with the same engine, mine was an auto, it was quite nippy and I really liked it a lot. I traded it in for a new car last year, but I do miss it. The Baleno was a great car, I sort of wish I'd kept it now.
The rear belt plugs into that slot in the plastic trim around the rear door to keep it out of the way! Great car, daughter in law loves her hybrid version.
"I find I do use all the gears" - I bet you do! Had a Scenic 3 from new with the catastrophic 4-cylinder 1.2 TCE 115 hp engine (that's about the same output as the unit in the Jogger) and it was really feeble, even without the car being very laden. The 6-speed box required endless shifting and failed at 62,000 miles. The engine expired at 75,000 miles, having burned maybe a litre of oil every 1000 miles. It was by far my most miserable car ownership experience and it was a relief when the horrid thing was scrapped. I find keyless go a nuisance as I lose track of which jacket/bag it's in and end up searching for it in a panic when the car door refuses to open as expected. I would disable the stop/start system if keeping a car long-term. It killed the Scenic's starter motor. I like the Jogger format, but I could never buy another new Renault product.
8:01 In my family dragging a wheel round a kerb is a half-Tesco, going up on the kerb is a full-Tesco. My dad never managed to stop saying hello to one particular car park kerb at Tesco in Maldon Essex with his C5 estate ...
That was a very good review that sums up how a lot of us think. A cheap car if you insist on buying something new but back in the real world you can get a lot of car secondhand for for just over £20k. You can buy a perfectly usable car for the cost of the deposit and first years finance payments....
I had a 2021 Peugeot 2008 1.2 Puretech (yes, I know, but it was on PCH so I knew I would be giving it back before any wet belt issues arose!) and the sound and pulling power from that little 3 cylinder was SO addictive. It pulled better than my previous 160 bhp Turbo diesel Vauxhall Insignia and sounded 100 times under hard acceleration.
I've got a 1.2 Puretech in an old style 208, non-turbo, and it's been fine. Not high mileage though, to be fair. Cambelt has been changed one time, about 1,5 years late (5 year interval, but was originally intended to be 10 it seems), but it's always being driven until properly warmed up and usually also 100+ km with a resonable interval so it really purges volatile stuff out of the oil. It uses some oil, about 1 litre per 6000-7000 km but that's an issue many modern engines have due to being optimised for effiency. I have a feeling many of the problems arise from the engines not liking only in town use, short journeys, not properly specced oil etc. That's not saying I like the idea of a wet belt, I didn't even purchase the car but took it as a hand-me down from an older relative who stopped driving. But modern engines with chains aren't exactly free of problems either, with streched chains, chain guides falling apart etc. And then we have the old Opel/Vauxhall debacle with their dry belts which kept failing way before their time, resulting in shorter and shorter intervals. Maybe some people have forgot about that... Also the PSA engine is at least designed so that it's not ridicoulosly hard to change the belt, of course subject to the design of the car it's in. At least in the 208 it's not that much worse than the five pot in the S70 GLT I owned for more than a decade. It's a bit more difficult since you have to remove the rocker cover a plate on the side etc (which you of course do while changing the oil anyway), but it's not too bad compared to some other designs, wet belt or not.
I do like Dacia's. Regarding the rear seatbelts getting trapped. If you look on the C pillar there is a vertical slot in the plastic trim which you actually show in the video just as you state there is nowhere to stow the seatbelt, you can plug the seatbelt in there. Standard modern Renault pratice
@@fredscratchet1355 not really just a “ Modern Renault practice” it’s been a feature used in many cars for well over 2 decades, I have two 2007 cars right now with them ( buckle slots) ones a ford and ones a Volvo 👍
I must admit I do like the Jogger. A great honest car that is also good value considering other new car prices. Yes it has its foibles I would certainly consider a test drive but like you I'd look at a used one. Plenty of space but not too big that you need three post codes to park it, it's pretty practical as well. As for the rear seat belts I think I spotted some holes in the trim to put the seat belt hooks to stop them being trapped when you flop the seat backs then bring them back up but I might be wrong. Many thanks for sharing.
I think the Jogger and the Sandero are the best built Dacia at the moment. Had two sandero stepways and two dusters at different times. Currently on a Sandero Stepway automatic. I prefer the auto as I am lazy and it has slightly taller gearing on the motorway just cruising at 2,100rpm at 70. Also have a left foot rest as there is no clutch pedal. MPG around town in the hills is about 39mpg but on a long run can be up to 47mpg. not bad for a CVT auto
Honest review of a honest car. No fancy bling-bling. That´s why I´m in for a Stepway, couple of months to go until I have put aside all the money it needs.
Having owned a Sandero Stepway with the TCe engine and being very happy with it we were tempted. It's a great car at a fantastic price (in today's madness) but at the time many were suffering a problem with a faulty part, think in the gearbox or clutch, that would fail and there was a number of them stranded at dealers waiting for parts. Many stories from annoyed owners in forums. It put us off at the time but doubtless Dacia have now resolved the issue on newer cars. As I prefer silver wheels i would go for the grade below which is still a great specification and even lower price. A great review Ian.
My type of modern car, simple, good practicality, nice shape, good styling. Only thing lacking is a little bit of power, maybe a 1.6 turbo with 160hp maybe.
Been looking forward to this review for a little while! If I was to have one, it would have to be the base model Acccess because all other models have the one thing I **cannot** live with in a car: The prominently mounted centre screen. Even if it is not displaying anything of note, I always find my eyes drawn towards them when driving, particularly at night, even with it in 'dark mode' the glow of the screens backlight still attracts my eyes and I simply cannot live with it. Other advantages of the access imo are the manual handbrake, physical key and the normal heater controls (rather than the automatic climate this model has). The access still has cruise control and A/C as standard which is a little silly imo for a 'base model' but yeah. If I was having one, it would have to be the access for me. I belive all the radio contols on the access are opperated via the media stalk which I am very familiar with owning a 90s renault and do love and use it exclusively to opperate the radio in that car anyway. I would prefer a normal single or double din radio mounted centerally within the dash, but if it was a choice between a screen or nothing. I'd choose nothing.
I don't dislike it and while I often think of a more modern car (or even new, something like a Dacia) the next morning I get in my well worn 20 year old Fabia and think nah, this is still fine 😊 the money I'm saving on finance is slowly growing into an amount that could be a nice 2CV, which is what I really want ofc
Hmm, @12:54 there looks to be a hole for the seatbelt latch to clip in to, preventing the issue with it catching on the seat latch maybe? Not a bad car though and great review :)
For some reason, I actually quite like this. And this is coming from a person who usually hates newer cars, in fact most cars in general post 2000 I just can't get on with. I wonder if there's a slightly cheaper estate version without the 7 seats?
There is a rear seat belt holder, the metal tongue fits into the slot by the door, shows up very well in the video where you are telling us it's not there.
I wish Dacias were still cheap. I don't want screens, LED lights, etc. I'd like A/C and a stereo - and I'm happy to pay for those as options. I really wish there was one modern car maker just making the most basic car. But that's not as profitable as filling the car with garbage you don't need and charging more for it.
Absolutely agree with lane assist it's terrible, I was driving a hi ace with it and I encroached on the centreline and it almost through me into a cyclist I was passing. 😮Aussie Graham.
On my 3rd Sandero Stepway, this one with LPG, when I can get it! No faults, comfortable and economical. Main gripe is the road noise at all speeds but it's simple and build quality is more than adequate.
12:55 on the C pillar cover you can see a slot, probably for a seatbelt buckle. It's a shame the buckle can't go there by itself, like a buckle for a middle seat with a magnet
Very sensible HubNut,s not getting a car on finance 😊 . It's way better to actually own the vehicle you drive outright than keep paying 1000,s to bank's and finance companies in interest payments. It's always made me laugh 😂😂 when people say look at my new car 🚗 😂😂 instead of look at this car ive borrowed from the finance people which there charging me for. 😂😂😂
I bought a new Duster a few years ago - sold it on to my brother in law after a couple of years. Great car, which I really rate and he is still loving the car too! Dacia are spot on!
I currently run a 10 year old megane and while boring from an enthusiast point of view as daily transport it's been utterly reliable over the 4 years I've had it, most of my journeys are either heavy traffic or less than 20 mins and aside from normal running costs it's probably joint first in reliability of any car I've owned, the other was a chevy spark 😅, I've already decided my next car will probably be either Renault or Dacia just for the reliability factor alone less money I have to spend on my daily the more I can save for a project car
@@davidquinn5906 had mine for 3 years only the exhaust broke and I didn't have a lot of money to spend on it either so only got serviced once was fantastic in snow and ice as well but I'll give the megane it's dues I've done nearly 40k miles in it and it just runs not too much tech in it either so less to go wrong
I think there was a slot to put the seatbelt in when rocking rear seat forward, could be wrong,but there was a slot for something there.also if you slide the rear trays towards you a small cup holder is revealed.
I liked the Dacia but some its quirks remind me of my KA+. It keeps telling you change gear, the light controls are invisible when behind the wheel. But a nice looking car & I do like estates. Once again thank you Ian & Carly great video.
@@HubNut I’ve had the hybrid for just on a year now and I honestly don’t think I’ve ever had such a practical car before. Just does anything you ask of it and I’m completely in agreement with you on the tech aspect. Pity the 24 model year ones now have lane assist and some other gizmos due to European legislation but even then it’s a great car. Hybrid does between 58 to 70 mpg depending on how hard you push her and weather temps. My 20 year old BMW is my pampered old girl these days, only makes rare public appearances 😂
With reference to the stowage of that troublesome seat belt, Dacia would say that there is a buckle slot to stow it out the way, (12.47 diagonally up to the right from your finger) while they have been in some cars for over 2 decades it’s something that no alighting passenger would ever think of doing to let the person behind them in or out. Indeed in one of my cars ( from 2007) I’m the only person to have ever used them and that was only when I have been folding down or folding up the rear seats to keep the belts out the way (and obviously because I happen to know what it’s for). You are absolutely correct that they need something else though which is easier and more user obvious and that belt damage is definitely something to look out for on a 2nd hand purchase of one of these if it has 7 seats 👍
A modern day Morris Minor would be like a breath of fresh air compared to most modern cars and I’m sure they would sell. Don’t make it electric though!
I pre-ordered mine in mid spec 110 TCe Comfort trim and it cost me only £16,795 at the time. We love ours, it's so versatile and I've achieved nearly 80mpg on a steady motorway run, yet the car still has respectable performance for what it is. Some people have reported issues with clutch/flywheel but touch wood had no issues with mine in 2 years apart from a whistling demister fan.
Dacia’s biggest market in Europe is France, where it is the third biggest selling brand. The French LOVE a cheap utility car, especially when they know it’s got a Renault engine they can get serviced cheaply. So when Dacia release a new model, whose tastes are they targeting? - the French, who don’t like paying for fancy extras and aren’t particularly brand concious.
Lane detect is dangerous! The new Astra has it, and I wasn't aware of it until the damn thing tried to steer the car back into the lane as I overtook a slower vehicle! Turns out, it won't do it if you indicate first, but if you are on the go and have to straddle lanes in roadworks, you are constantly fighting it! You can turn it off, but you have to do it at the beginning of every journey!
Still have my 2019 Logan Mcv(predecessor to jogger)More basic than the Jogger(they've come quite a long way over the years) but, still brillant for a slightly smaller family-camping,bikes and kayaks carried for very regularly from Manchester to Anglesey (for visits to MIL) 50 mpg-been a great car.They need to provide an option for a 5 seater only model.
Dacia. Building the type of cars which Škoda should be doing. And the design language is quite decent in all models. In my opinion Dacia is the only car you'll ever need. Only downside is it seems that there is no diesel in any of the range.
Diesels these days have been replaced by hybrids. Got the mileage, sometimes the torque (depending on vehicle), and runs on the cheaper fuel. Only thing it misses is simplicity and I couldn't comment on reliability
@@HubNut I wish there were diesel options. VAG cars still offer them. Having been a bangernomics* man all of my car owning life, I did make the exceptional jump and buy a Duster auto brand new in 2017 (kissing sadly goodbye to my well worn Rover 75 diesel tourer through scrappage). I intended and intend to keep the Duster its entire life; more particularly than anything the well proven K9K diesel is good on torque (260nm) and mileage. Helped that its a development of the Energy engine which was also a development of the Cleon Fonte engine. Having always had at least 1 Renault, the audio satellite comes as second nature. The Duster at 72k miles has never had any advisories on its MOT, at 7 years old it is still on its original rear tyres and brakes. We always thought the Jogger would be spot on for the Hubnut family. (* still have a '92 Clio, '87 R21 TXE and '96 MGF).
You need to be careful with the rear row of seats. You can pull them up with the little red tab, but that pulls off the lever quite easily meaning you have to squeeze your fingers in to undo the latch. Putting a cable tie around the strap will keep it on. Lovely cat though 😊
My parents have a Dacia Logan think its a 17 plate its actually not a bad car loads of space for us kids in the back I say kids we are in our 20's and 30's!! Again has a 1.0 turbo which seems to have grunt when moving but juddery pulling away they have just moved my brother from Dundee to Faringdon fully loaded and a roof box. For me though an estate will always be a brick shaped Volvo with a redblock turbo.
Dacia are the new Skoda now that VW have moved them upmarket. Same ethos too: proven tech in a sensible package for less money. RE: The rear seatbelts getting trapped. Just to the right of the seat mounting is a little slot that you are meant to put the clasp into when not in use, keeps it out of the way then. A very low-rent solution but it does work!
Is that a GDI engine? I was under impression that all the 1.0 TCE engines were still port injected, but that one seems to have a high pressure fuel pump right on top.
Be careful of the 1.0 ltr manual as I've been hanging my nose over one of these so I joined the Dacia jogger owners group on Facebook & the amount of people saying that clutches are failing is unbelievable. Someone even said he was on his EIGHTH CLUTCH! As well as the clutch the alternator pulley snapping is common also.
@@UKMike2009 Which then also kills the main bearings and crankshaft in the long run. Bad habits. These small engines need to revv some. The small turbo however, provides so much low end torque that people tend to abuse them at low revs.
Had mine 2 years and 35k miles. Its been great. Mine is the mid spec comfort which still has plenty of kit including cruise control, climate control reversing camera. Brand new it eas £16000. The prices have crept up! Sits alongside my 2 toys (lotus elise and peugeot 306 rallye) and does very well. Engine is a marvel really. It does better than the 1.6hdi i had in my previous 308sw 7 seater.
Great test video Ian. Reminds me a bit of my old Citroen c5. Worth noting that i was achieving a better MPG with a 2.2 diesel in a 2004 car. Where's the progress?
I guess the progress is in terms of NOX and particulate emissions. This engine is an absolute peach. So impressive. I run mine in eco mode most of the time. Normal feels like sport mode! Sounds silly talking about 1.0 engine in an MPV but driving is believing.
@eddieallen6401 I guess. As a mechanic I struggle to get enthusiastic about the trend for smaller, high efficiency engines. In my experience they require a lot more servicing and maintenance than the engines they replaced and I suspect that will easily counter any environmental gains that are claimed. They have also made cars very expensive. Every £ has it's own carbon footprint so that's a factor too. I think the manufacturers have done very well to achieve performance parity whilst shrinking the engines, it's very clever. But purely from driving and owning I prefer the cars they replaced. I've not driven the dacia yet but every other small, high efficiency turbo engine I've driven has had a very inconsistent throttle response, fine when the revs are up but absolutely nothing if the turbo isn't there. I'm surprised the tax was so much too.
Spent a remarkably "okay" several hours in the third row of one of these, a 1.6 Hybrid version, with 5 others for a week in France. It carried 5 adults worth of luggage and 5 people in verging on decent comfort. I would personally be more inclined to take the 1.6 hybrid rather than the 1.0TCE - three cylinder turbo engines are fine, but ALL of them are known for their failures. The 1.6 hybrid is, I believe, the same old 1.6 ngine from the past versions of the Duster (and therefore older Renaults still) just coupled with the new-fangled hybrid gearbox and electric powertrain - the gearbox system might be a bit complicated but its far cheaper to repair or replace a gearbox than an entire engine. Downsides that came to mind were - speakers are appallingly bad, seats arent especially padded. That's sort of all I could think of.
I was going to buy one of these but chose a 5 year old 5 series estate instead. It’s a nicer car in every way than this Dacia. Not a hubnut opinion I know but I like a bit of luxury and refinement in my old age 😊
I have one for a year now and it is a very good car . I love mine. I have 20000 km. You have cruise controle a speed limited setting . It has everything you need in a car.and no need to pay for some options every month 😉 there is a slit to put the seatbel in in the back.the advantage of low tech ,it can't break and cost you hunderds of pounds of euros.
Why don't they make one without auto wipers, keyless entry, alloy wheels and electric handbrake? I'm guessing the "tech" sells for more than the more basic components would cost.
The comments are generally saying it's a car without unnecessary 'features', but lane assist, keyless entry and a radio that turns off after 2 minutes for no good reason I can see are exactly this, imo. :o( It's a nice car otherwise. (2017 Dacia Duster owner - now there's a car that doesn't have stupid 'features'. Well, not now I've permanently disabled the stop/start, which I don't need where I live)
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Nice to see a car company that makes an estate in this day and age. Generally speaking, far more room and practicality than the SUVs that everybody seems to want.
I think this thing is more like an SUv than an estate.
Compact MPV, not an estate and most definately not SUV
@@nekite1 The Jogger is based on the Sandero. The front of the car until the B-pillar is 100% Sandero, from B-pillar backwards it has a slightly raised roof.
@@chrishart8548 Agreed. The problem is that Ford, Vauxhall and other companies no longer make these 7 seater MPVs (I'd say that's a better description). I've got a 64 reg Fprd C Max Grand 1.6 diesel. Ford stopped making C Maxes in 2019, likewise Vauxhall stopped making the Zafira Tourer around the same time. At the time, those two models were probably the best selling MPVs in the UK, sadly they're no longer available, along with many other companies' MPVs., including the S Max, Touran, Alhambra, Galaxy etc. I tend to buy Fords, they no longer manufacture a new car of theirs I'd want to buy.
It would be interesting to see this parked next to and end-on with say, a Skoda Octavia estate
I love my Jogger TCE. Coming off two Golf Rs. Couldn't be more different. But the Dacia makes me happy every time I get in it. Because in a world of bloated tech, features and design, this one's an honest car, and incredibly practical. I just love it.
I have had mine for 18 months now and am very satisfied with it. It drives nice and smoothly once you get used to not rushing the gear changes, being gentle on the accelerator and not braking aggressively. It is definitely a car for doing long journeys in, with a nice relaxed and comfortable feel to it. The second row cup holders are in the pop up trays by the way, you just need to pull the trays towards you to expose them. Also there are second row seat belt parking slots to prevent the belts chaffing when tipping them forward. All in all I am one very satisfied first time owner of a Dacia and will certainly be looking to trade in for a newer model when my current PCP is near renewal.
As mentioned here there is a slot to plug the rear belt into, to keep it out of the way.
Euro NCAP has made itself a joke. By basing its supposed safety ratings on all the electronic warnings that everyone turns off. I care about how a car is in a crash - I don't want it to tell me how to drive.
Also, some of these are downright dangerous - annoying bongs are one thing, but if I go over the white line on the side of the road to avoid an oncoming lorry, I do not want 'autosteer' to steer me into the path of the lorry. (Happened to my wife in a rented car - she had no idea such a thing existed.)
Other thing unexpected thing to watch out for is that 'autosteer' can react to the white line that marks the side of the road- tries to drive you head on into oncoming vehicles on narrow roads.
The jogger isn’t as strong as other cars either
I would love to see this car in a small overlap test. The fact it's either not been done or is not available says everything I need to know.
@@chrishart8548 they used the Sandero test because they are structurally identical, and then took some points off for being heavier.
After bad experiences having to drive a wheelchair adapted minibus with 'lane assist' on rural Scottish roads one Summer, I know I will never own a vehicle with this feature. Far too irritating, and also imo, possibly dangerous.
A perfect car for the HubNut family... In 15 years time.
Given Dacias don't seem to depreciate I'm not sure about that, they'll probably be outlawed before they get cheep
Since Škoda is way up market these days and replacing the slot held by Volvo, this is a nicely finished cheap car.
Even a ford focus is out of reach now. Who couldn't afford a mk3 escort 1.3L back in the day.
Skoda seem to have gone the way of vw overlords, what were cheap honest cars have become pretentious and expensive.
I certainly don't dislike it, lots to be said for relatively simple cars! I've recently bought a new Jimny on similar lines, wanting a vehicle which is an antidote to the generic "smart phone" car most manufacturers are churning out. Much as I love old cars too... there is much to be said for something hassle free when you have a busy life- the enjoyment for the old timers is then bolstered.
Simple cars are what this channel is all about, that’s the beauty of it
Three years with a Duster has shown me that Dacia understands how much of a car people actually need not all the silly add ons that I have experienced with "more premium" motor cars. I LIKE buttons and twirly knobs over screens and menus so its a relief that cars like this are still sold. I have no need for a 7 seater nowadays but I can see the attraction for families.
Also I like my Duster in UN black and white spec but that khaki and bronze is very nice.
The one single thing that disappoints me is the electronic handbrake, I hate them with a passion. Other than that it looks like the fine replacement for my wife's Logan MCV that has been problem free for the 8 years she's owned it.
Sanderos are the best selling cars in the EU.
@@ferrumignis
The lower spec models in the range still have manual handbrakes.
Ian the rear seatbelt trapping, in the video where you showed the mark on the belt @12:45 next to the belt is an oblong hole in the trim, if you plug the male part of the belt into that hole it holds the belt away from the seat catch.
PS thanks for keeping me into the Rustival Video "Hello from Westward Ho!"
We have the hybrid version . Lovely to drive and economical . thanks for posting. Forgot to say ours is the extreme.
I absolutely love dacia. Simple cars that work and at an appropriate price. The jogger is by far my favorite. I personally would have the hybrid as I need an auto. Thank you Mr and Mrs hubnut for the great review. Much love.
I have a 22 plate Stepway. It's all the car I need. And as you said, no silly tech that wants to take over the driving for me.
Honestly, I fell in love with it when I saw it in the dealer when looking at dusters. Everytime I see it I can't help but admire it.
Looks the perfect all round car, pack loads in, great for holidays and adventures, carry loads of people, never thought they were slow when driving behind em. Plus the interior looks surprisingly rugged yet sharp.
Can't wait to finish watching your review
That’s what happened to me. Went in for a duster. Came out with a jogger.
Since Fatalities in Traffic Acidents continue to rise again (after a Low in 90s and 00s) despite the increased Safety Features, i cant help but to wonder if we reached a Point of diminishing Returns where more "Safety" makes us actualy less safe.🤔
Definitely something in that. If you don't feel in danger, you won't necessarily care as much. Plus, cars seem to be getting ever more powerful.
@@HubNut my Guess is that it's a whole Laundry List of Problems, from limited Visibility to a "Safety is the Manufacturers Responsibility" (and of Course Mobile Phones).
Getting beeped/flashed at is extremely distracting.
@@NeilBarratt fun fact: my dads Mazda tells him that he should pay Attention to his suroundings whenever he starts it, thus of course distracting him from the abovementioned suroundings.
Totally agree. Hence I switch off all ‘safety’ features at start.
That multimedia stalk is the easiest thing to use. You don't need to see it, I learned to use it by clicking things and in a couple of seconds I knew what does what. I've had two Renaults and I genuinly miss this stalk so much, that even after a year and a half of driving my C5 2015, my hand sometimes go behind the steering wheel to change volume
That’s a superb car as are all modern Dacias. I wouldn’t hestitate buying the Jogger. It would suit your family down to the ground, assuming it can tow your trailer-tent. The lack of intrusive tech is a bonus even though it loses stars as a result. My choice would be the Duster and it’s a pity that they no longer offer the rather superb 1.5 diesel Renault K9K engine. Having said that, the latest petrol engines almost equal its fuel economy and petrol is cheaper and less bother for town driving.
They don’t want you running the engine if you’re not going anywhere or at least sat in the drivers seat. Also using the screen washing jets while stationary - my wife does it all the time leaving coloured steaks all over her white car. yellow at the moment, the next tub of screen wash is green. I quite like pink but I digress.
There is a seat belt clasp slot in the c pillar just forward of the seat clamp hoop but in reality no one really uses them because they are a faf to use.
I like the fact that it’s an estate car and not an SUV for a start and I for one love the practicality of a seven seater. I can’t help but compare it to my nearly-twenty year old 2005 Renault Grand Scenic ‘Genevieve’
She had more room in the back seats but not in the rear most seats (they are fine for my grandchildren though) plus she has cup holders in the rear picnic tables.
I do love the higher driving position in my car though.
That said, if I was in the market for a new seven seat car I’d probably give this a look.
For now though Genevieve is still going strong.
Another great video. Very informative as usual.
Got to love a car that’s not an suv! Do like those older Scenics. Have a 2005 Espace myself, and love it!
I have no idea why, but I love how it looks
Can't wait for you to get your hands on the new Duster! Would really want your take on it.
Euro NCAP is now a measure of how dangerous a car is. More annoying safety aids the higher the rating. Having them all enabling automatically on every startup earns extra stars. Hence why that now happens on most cars! Every time I read a car magazine the letters section or road test features a time where it's nearly caused them to crash! Same with the awful touch sensitive or HVAC in the touch screen. 3 star for child protection is a little concerning though.
May be wrong but It looks like there's a slot in the plastic trim by the door that you'd plug the rear seatbelt into when lowering the rear seat
I run a 2016 Suzuki Baleno which also has a 1 litre 3 cylinder turbo charged engine - the car is very light and pulls well - I'm getting between 58 and 60 mpg. This Dacia is quite impressive!
I had a Baleno with the same engine, mine was an auto, it was quite nippy and I really liked it a lot. I traded it in for a new car last year, but I do miss it. The Baleno was a great car, I sort of wish I'd kept it now.
The volvo back lights are awesome
A very helpful review, thank you very much! Your views on moderns are insightful, please consider doing more of these tests. Very thought provoking!
Very happy with my 2021 Sandero Streetway LPG. Amazing value for money.
The rear belt plugs into that slot in the plastic trim around the rear door to keep it out of the way! Great car, daughter in law loves her hybrid version.
"I find I do use all the gears" - I bet you do!
Had a Scenic 3 from new with the catastrophic 4-cylinder 1.2 TCE 115 hp engine (that's about the same output as the unit in the Jogger) and it was really feeble, even without the car being very laden. The 6-speed box required endless shifting and failed at 62,000 miles. The engine expired at 75,000 miles, having burned maybe a litre of oil every 1000 miles. It was by far my most miserable car ownership experience and it was a relief when the horrid thing was scrapped.
I find keyless go a nuisance as I lose track of which jacket/bag it's in and end up searching for it in a panic when the car door refuses to open as expected.
I would disable the stop/start system if keeping a car long-term. It killed the Scenic's starter motor.
I like the Jogger format, but I could never buy another new Renault product.
A jogger would make a great addition to your fleet. But only in 20 years time when it's really cheap and mostly knackered. 😁
8:01 In my family dragging a wheel round a kerb is a half-Tesco, going up on the kerb is a full-Tesco. My dad never managed to stop saying hello to one particular car park kerb at Tesco in Maldon Essex with his C5 estate ...
That was a very good review that sums up how a lot of us think. A cheap car if you insist on buying something new but back in the real world you can get a lot of car secondhand for for just over £20k. You can buy a perfectly usable car for the cost of the deposit and first years finance payments....
I wish NCAP would not insist on so many electronics
this is what everyone says they want. a decent, simple, good quality estate. if it doesnt sell well, blame yourselves.
Well, the ones that don’t go chasing fat SUVs.
I had a 2021 Peugeot 2008 1.2 Puretech (yes, I know, but it was on PCH so I knew I would be giving it back before any wet belt issues arose!) and the sound and pulling power from that little 3 cylinder was SO addictive. It pulled better than my previous 160 bhp Turbo diesel Vauxhall Insignia and sounded 100 times under hard acceleration.
I've got a 1.2 Puretech in an old style 208, non-turbo, and it's been fine. Not high mileage though, to be fair. Cambelt has been changed one time, about 1,5 years late (5 year interval, but was originally intended to be 10 it seems), but it's always being driven until properly warmed up and usually also 100+ km with a resonable interval so it really purges volatile stuff out of the oil. It uses some oil, about 1 litre per 6000-7000 km but that's an issue many modern engines have due to being optimised for effiency. I have a feeling many of the problems arise from the engines not liking only in town use, short journeys, not properly specced oil etc. That's not saying I like the idea of a wet belt, I didn't even purchase the car but took it as a hand-me down from an older relative who stopped driving. But modern engines with chains aren't exactly free of problems either, with streched chains, chain guides falling apart etc. And then we have the old Opel/Vauxhall debacle with their dry belts which kept failing way before their time, resulting in shorter and shorter intervals. Maybe some people have forgot about that...
Also the PSA engine is at least designed so that it's not ridicoulosly hard to change the belt, of course subject to the design of the car it's in. At least in the 208 it's not that much worse than the five pot in the S70 GLT I owned for more than a decade. It's a bit more difficult since you have to remove the rocker cover a plate on the side etc (which you of course do while changing the oil anyway), but it's not too bad compared to some other designs, wet belt or not.
I do like Dacia's. Regarding the rear seatbelts getting trapped. If you look on the C pillar there is a vertical slot in the plastic trim which you actually show in the video just as you state there is nowhere to stow the seatbelt, you can plug the seatbelt in there. Standard modern Renault pratice
@@fredscratchet1355 not really just a “ Modern Renault practice” it’s been a feature used in many cars for well over 2 decades, I have two 2007 cars right now with them ( buckle slots) ones a ford and ones a Volvo 👍
The tray tables also slide out , to reveal a cup holder!
I must admit I do like the Jogger. A great honest car that is also good value considering other new car prices. Yes it has its foibles I would certainly consider a test drive but like you I'd look at a used one. Plenty of space but not too big that you need three post codes to park it, it's pretty practical as well. As for the rear seat belts I think I spotted some holes in the trim to put the seat belt hooks to stop them being trapped when you flop the seat backs then bring them back up but I might be wrong. Many thanks for sharing.
I think the Jogger and the Sandero are the best built Dacia at the moment.
Had two sandero stepways and two dusters at different times.
Currently on a Sandero Stepway automatic.
I prefer the auto as I am lazy and it has slightly taller gearing on the motorway just cruising at 2,100rpm at 70.
Also have a left foot rest as there is no clutch pedal.
MPG around town in the hills is about 39mpg but on a long run can be up to 47mpg. not bad for a CVT auto
Honest review of a honest car. No fancy bling-bling. That´s why I´m in for a Stepway, couple of months to go until I have put aside all the money it needs.
Having owned a Sandero Stepway with the TCe engine and being very happy with it we were tempted. It's a great car at a fantastic price (in today's madness) but at the time many were suffering a problem with a faulty part, think in the gearbox or clutch, that would fail and there was a number of them stranded at dealers waiting for parts. Many stories from annoyed owners in forums. It put us off at the time but doubtless Dacia have now resolved the issue on newer cars.
As I prefer silver wheels i would go for the grade below which is still a great specification and even lower price. A great review Ian.
My type of modern car, simple, good practicality, nice shape, good styling. Only thing lacking is a little bit of power, maybe a 1.6 turbo with 160hp maybe.
Wish we got these is the states. Love the size and manual transmission. Long live wagon life.
Been looking forward to this review for a little while!
If I was to have one, it would have to be the base model Acccess because all other models have the one thing I **cannot** live with in a car: The prominently mounted centre screen. Even if it is not displaying anything of note, I always find my eyes drawn towards them when driving, particularly at night, even with it in 'dark mode' the glow of the screens backlight still attracts my eyes and I simply cannot live with it.
Other advantages of the access imo are the manual handbrake, physical key and the normal heater controls (rather than the automatic climate this model has). The access still has cruise control and A/C as standard which is a little silly imo for a 'base model' but yeah. If I was having one, it would have to be the access for me.
I belive all the radio contols on the access are opperated via the media stalk which I am very familiar with owning a 90s renault and do love and use it exclusively to opperate the radio in that car anyway. I would prefer a normal single or double din radio mounted centerally within the dash, but if it was a choice between a screen or nothing. I'd choose nothing.
I don't dislike it and while I often think of a more modern car (or even new, something like a Dacia) the next morning I get in my well worn 20 year old Fabia and think nah, this is still fine 😊 the money I'm saving on finance is slowly growing into an amount that could be a nice 2CV, which is what I really want ofc
Hmm, @12:54 there looks to be a hole for the seatbelt latch to clip in to, preventing the issue with it catching on the seat latch maybe?
Not a bad car though and great review :)
For some reason, I actually quite like this. And this is coming from a person who usually hates newer cars, in fact most cars in general post 2000 I just can't get on with. I wonder if there's a slightly cheaper estate version without the 7 seats?
Believe they all have seven seats but you can always take the rear pair out.
There is a rear seat belt holder, the metal tongue fits into the slot by the door, shows up very well in the video where you are telling us it's not there.
I wish Dacias were still cheap.
I don't want screens, LED lights, etc. I'd like A/C and a stereo - and I'm happy to pay for those as options.
I really wish there was one modern car maker just making the most basic car. But that's not as profitable as filling the car with garbage you don't need and charging more for it.
I think it's more that so much kit is now mandatory. Dacia is selling about the least you can get away with.
Surely at this price point they are really cheap? The cost of this car is cheaper than the balloon on a half decent suv (don’t ask how I know 😢).
@@HubNut Screens, LED lights - not mandatory.
You can get the version without a screen. It's cheaper. You can't get the non LED lights but why on earth would you want to see worse.
@@davidspencer7254I can see better if the other cars on the road don't have blinding headlights
I like it. Nice looking car. Can't believe its only a 1 litre engine 😮
Absolutely agree with lane assist it's terrible, I was driving a hi ace with it and I encroached on the centreline and it almost through me into a cyclist I was passing. 😮Aussie Graham.
On my 3rd Sandero Stepway, this one with LPG, when I can get it! No faults, comfortable and economical. Main gripe is the road noise at all speeds but it's simple and build quality is more than adequate.
12:55 on the C pillar cover you can see a slot, probably for a seatbelt buckle. It's a shame the buckle can't go there by itself, like a buckle for a middle seat with a magnet
Very sensible HubNut,s not getting a car on finance 😊 . It's way better to actually own the vehicle you drive outright than keep paying 1000,s to bank's and finance companies in interest payments. It's always made me laugh 😂😂 when people say look at my new car 🚗 😂😂 instead of look at this car ive borrowed from the finance people which there charging me for. 😂😂😂
I bought a new Duster a few years ago - sold it on to my brother in law after a couple of years. Great car, which I really rate and he is still loving the car too! Dacia are spot on!
I currently run a 10 year old megane and while boring from an enthusiast point of view as daily transport it's been utterly reliable over the 4 years I've had it, most of my journeys are either heavy traffic or less than 20 mins and aside from normal running costs it's probably joint first in reliability of any car I've owned, the other was a chevy spark 😅, I've already decided my next car will probably be either Renault or Dacia just for the reliability factor alone less money I have to spend on my daily the more I can save for a project car
I liked the Chevy Spark. First car I had that never had to go back for anything under warranty.
@@davidquinn5906 had mine for 3 years only the exhaust broke and I didn't have a lot of money to spend on it either so only got serviced once was fantastic in snow and ice as well but I'll give the megane it's dues I've done nearly 40k miles in it and it just runs not too much tech in it either so less to go wrong
Hi Ian, the rear middle rear seat belts have a slot on each side to store the outer seat belt buckles into thus avoiding the belts snagging 😎
I think there was a slot to put the seatbelt in when rocking rear seat forward, could be wrong,but there was a slot for something there.also if you slide the rear trays towards you a small cup holder is revealed.
I liked the Dacia but some its quirks remind me of my KA+.
It keeps telling you change gear, the light controls are invisible when behind the wheel. But a nice looking car & I do like estates.
Once again thank you Ian & Carly great video.
The folding picnic table actually pulls out/extends and low and behold a cup holder 😁
Oh really? I need to try this!
@@HubNut I’ve had the hybrid for just on a year now and I honestly don’t think I’ve ever had such a practical car before. Just does anything you ask of it and I’m completely in agreement with you on the tech aspect. Pity the 24 model year ones now have lane assist and some other gizmos due to European legislation but even then it’s a great car. Hybrid does between 58 to 70 mpg depending on how hard you push her and weather temps. My 20 year old BMW is my pampered old girl these days, only makes rare public appearances 😂
The rear seat belts slot into the hole beside the doors, in the video you can see them beside where the wear on the belts is. Good review.
With reference to the stowage of that troublesome seat belt, Dacia would say that there is a buckle slot to stow it out the way, (12.47 diagonally up to the right from your finger) while they have been in some cars for over 2 decades it’s something that no alighting passenger would ever think of doing to let the person behind them in or out. Indeed in one of my cars ( from 2007) I’m the only person to have ever used them and that was only when I have been folding down or folding up the rear seats to keep the belts out the way (and obviously because I happen to know what it’s for). You are absolutely correct that they need something else though which is easier and more user obvious and that belt damage is definitely something to look out for on a 2nd hand purchase of one of these if it has 7 seats 👍
My 2018 Hyundai i10 has those slots for the seatbelt clips.
Thanks for a very thorough and interesting review of the Dacia. No lane assistance is a huge win in my mind :-)
A modern day Morris Minor would be like a breath of fresh air compared to most modern cars and I’m sure they would sell. Don’t make it electric though!
You can stick the seat belt buckle into the rectangular slot to keep it free from the folding seat
A 2 ltr TDI with four wheel drive would make this just perfect.
Has Ian ever tested a Nissan Prairie 4x4 or Scenic Rx4? Hopefully he can and this car can revive the theme!
I pre-ordered mine in mid spec 110 TCe Comfort trim and it cost me only £16,795 at the time. We love ours, it's so versatile and I've achieved nearly 80mpg on a steady motorway run, yet the car still has respectable performance for what it is. Some people have reported issues with clutch/flywheel but touch wood had no issues with mine in 2 years apart from a whistling demister fan.
Theres a little hole in the C pillar next to the seatbelt where you insert the buckle so it doesnt get damaged
Dacia’s biggest market in Europe is France, where it is the third biggest selling brand. The French LOVE a cheap utility car, especially when they know it’s got a Renault engine they can get serviced cheaply. So when Dacia release a new model, whose tastes are they targeting? - the French, who don’t like paying for fancy extras and aren’t particularly brand concious.
Rear seatbelt buckle slots into that elongated hole in the side trim to keep it out of the way.
Lane detect is dangerous! The new Astra has it, and I wasn't aware of it until the damn thing tried to steer the car back into the lane as I overtook a slower vehicle! Turns out, it won't do it if you indicate first, but if you are on the go and have to straddle lanes in roadworks, you are constantly fighting it! You can turn it off, but you have to do it at the beginning of every journey!
Yes, bloody awful.
The seat belt buckle goes in the hole in the plastic trim, to stop the belt getting in the way
Is that a slot for the seatbelt in the c pillar trim to stop the belt getting trapped?
Yes looks like it.
Apparently so. Not very obvious.
@@HubNut RTFM lol
Still have my 2019 Logan Mcv(predecessor to jogger)More basic than the Jogger(they've come quite a long way over the years) but, still brillant for a slightly smaller family-camping,bikes and kayaks carried for very regularly from Manchester to Anglesey (for visits to MIL) 50 mpg-been a great car.They need to provide an option for a 5 seater only model.
Dacia. Building the type of cars which Škoda should be doing. And the design language is quite decent in all models. In my opinion Dacia is the only car you'll ever need. Only downside is it seems that there is no diesel in any of the range.
Diesels these days have been replaced by hybrids. Got the mileage, sometimes the torque (depending on vehicle), and runs on the cheaper fuel. Only thing it misses is simplicity and I couldn't comment on reliability
This Dacia has just 10Nm less torque than the Berlingo.
@JoeWalker98 hasn't been a simple diesel for a long time now. Skoda started off using the older VW technology but that's changed now not sure why.
@@HubNut I wish there were diesel options. VAG cars still offer them. Having been a bangernomics* man all of my car owning life, I did make the exceptional jump and buy a Duster auto brand new in 2017 (kissing sadly goodbye to my well worn Rover 75 diesel tourer through scrappage). I intended and intend to keep the Duster its entire life; more particularly than anything the well proven K9K diesel is good on torque (260nm) and mileage. Helped that its a development of the Energy engine which was also a development of the Cleon Fonte engine. Having always had at least 1 Renault, the audio satellite comes as second nature. The Duster at 72k miles has never had any advisories on its MOT, at 7 years old it is still on its original rear tyres and brakes. We always thought the Jogger would be spot on for the Hubnut family. (* still have a '92 Clio, '87 R21 TXE and '96 MGF).
Yeah, Skodas aren’t value for money anymore and have moved ‘up market’. A real shame.
You need to be careful with the rear row of seats. You can pull them up with the little red tab, but that pulls off the lever quite easily meaning you have to squeeze your fingers in to undo the latch. Putting a cable tie around the strap will keep it on. Lovely cat though 😊
Wish it had a proper handbrake - hard to find these days on newer cars. My Honda CR-V has sharp brakes too - makes gentle braking almost impossible.
The base model has a manual handbrake.
I keep thinking it looks like a mini Volvo especially with the rear light's.
My parents have a Dacia Logan think its a 17 plate its actually not a bad car loads of space for us kids in the back I say kids we are in our 20's and 30's!! Again has a 1.0 turbo which seems to have grunt when moving but juddery pulling away they have just moved my brother from Dundee to Faringdon fully loaded and a roof box.
For me though an estate will always be a brick shaped Volvo with a redblock turbo.
I have a logan mcv-juddery on pulling away seems to be a known issue.This problem can be driven around but sometimes catches me out.
Dacia are the new Skoda now that VW have moved them upmarket. Same ethos too: proven tech in a sensible package for less money.
RE: The rear seatbelts getting trapped. Just to the right of the seat mounting is a little slot that you are meant to put the clasp into when not in use, keeps it out of the way then. A very low-rent solution but it does work!
My old 2011 polo had the same thing
Is that a GDI engine? I was under impression that all the 1.0 TCE engines were still port injected, but that one seems to have a high pressure fuel pump right on top.
Are there still issues with the gearbox on the Jogger? It's been a while since the recall
Be careful of the 1.0 ltr manual as I've been hanging my nose over one of these so I joined the Dacia jogger owners group on Facebook & the amount of people saying that clutches are failing is unbelievable. Someone even said he was on his EIGHTH CLUTCH!
As well as the clutch the alternator pulley snapping is common also.
Apparently only an issue on early cars and cured in 2023 - also aggravated by operator error - relying on high gears and high torque with heavy loads.
@@UKMike2009 Which then also kills the main bearings and crankshaft in the long run. Bad habits. These small engines need to revv some. The small turbo however, provides so much low end torque that people tend to abuse them at low revs.
When i first saw a Dacia i liked them and they still are getting good
Had mine 2 years and 35k miles. Its been great. Mine is the mid spec comfort which still has plenty of kit including cruise control, climate control reversing camera. Brand new it eas £16000. The prices have crept up! Sits alongside my 2 toys (lotus elise and peugeot 306 rallye) and does very well. Engine is a marvel really. It does better than the 1.6hdi i had in my previous 308sw 7 seater.
Great test video Ian. Reminds me a bit of my old Citroen c5. Worth noting that i was achieving a better MPG with a 2.2 diesel in a 2004 car. Where's the progress?
Where's the progress? This isn't a diesel. 😉
I guess the progress is in terms of NOX and particulate emissions. This engine is an absolute peach. So impressive. I run mine in eco mode most of the time. Normal feels like sport mode! Sounds silly talking about 1.0 engine in an MPV but driving is believing.
@eddieallen6401 I guess. As a mechanic I struggle to get enthusiastic about the trend for smaller, high efficiency engines. In my experience they require a lot more servicing and maintenance than the engines they replaced and I suspect that will easily counter any environmental gains that are claimed. They have also made cars very expensive. Every £ has it's own carbon footprint so that's a factor too. I think the manufacturers have done very well to achieve performance parity whilst shrinking the engines, it's very clever. But purely from driving and owning I prefer the cars they replaced. I've not driven the dacia yet but every other small, high efficiency turbo engine I've driven has had a very inconsistent throttle response, fine when the revs are up but absolutely nothing if the turbo isn't there. I'm surprised the tax was so much too.
Spent a remarkably "okay" several hours in the third row of one of these, a 1.6 Hybrid version, with 5 others for a week in France. It carried 5 adults worth of luggage and 5 people in verging on decent comfort. I would personally be more inclined to take the 1.6 hybrid rather than the 1.0TCE - three cylinder turbo engines are fine, but ALL of them are known for their failures. The 1.6 hybrid is, I believe, the same old 1.6 ngine from the past versions of the Duster (and therefore older Renaults still) just coupled with the new-fangled hybrid gearbox and electric powertrain - the gearbox system might be a bit complicated but its far cheaper to repair or replace a gearbox than an entire engine.
Downsides that came to mind were - speakers are appallingly bad, seats arent especially padded. That's sort of all I could think of.
I was going to buy one of these but chose a 5 year old 5 series estate instead. It’s a nicer car in every way than this Dacia. Not a hubnut opinion I know but I like a bit of luxury and refinement in my old age 😊
You were probably the only one in the world cross shopping those alternatives.
Very informative video, thank you Hubnut
I have one for a year now and it is a very good car . I love mine. I have 20000 km. You have cruise controle a speed limited setting . It has everything you need in a car.and no need to pay for some options every month 😉 there is a slit to put the seatbel in in the back.the advantage of low tech ,it can't break and cost you hunderds of pounds of euros.
Why don't they make one without auto wipers, keyless entry, alloy wheels and electric handbrake? I'm guessing the "tech" sells for more than the more basic components would cost.
One of these is a serious possibility for our next family bus. As for EuroNCAP, they’re scores are pointless these days imho.
I like it very much. Exterior, interior and the three point seats.
The comments are generally saying it's a car without unnecessary 'features', but lane assist, keyless entry and a radio that turns off after 2 minutes for no good reason I can see are exactly this, imo. :o( It's a nice car otherwise.
(2017 Dacia Duster owner - now there's a car that doesn't have stupid 'features'. Well, not now I've permanently disabled the stop/start, which I don't need where I live)
Theres a 7-seater 406 estate on autotrader at the moment £1500 - much more Hubnut!
Like Skoda they have come on in leaps and bounds
A great review and a great car for the money. But would owning one detract from the whole Hubnut approach? Yes, I think so.
think i'll be keeping the old cortina !!