I dont think that makes any difference, it is just force being applied to the projectile. However, the hydraulic press increases weight progressively while a projectile hits its target at full speed. Id say the force being applied slowly by the press makes it harder for the projectile to penetrate
@@joemichaels4231 ускорение важно - а ускорение у быстрых подкалиберных самое быстропадающее. Подкалиберные, они быстрее летят (1410 м/с), больше пробивают, но хуже нормализуются и быстрее теряют бронепробитие с расстоянием, чем стандартный снаряд танка - бронебойный
From what I vaguely recall Depleted Uranium is heavier than lead and harder than copper but behaves like copper thermite on impact, basically burning its way through the armour and most especially burning after it passes through the armour causing maximum harm to anything behind the armour.
The shape charge breaches the armor and the molten copper follows it through the hole. That’s why AT armor is just a mesh/fence around the heavy armor. To set off the shape charge before it hits the hull.
@@Canthus13This is tungsten carbide, not tungsten. Very hard and very brittle as well. Unless he has it wrong - I think there are both tungsten and tungsten carbide cores.
@@OnTheRiver66 I'm not sure, honestly. I don't know if both are used. I do know that tank rounds only use DU because tungsten doesn't have an incendiary effect like DU, and the penetrator gets rounded off as it penetrates, unlike DU which gets sharpened as it penetrates deeper, and then fireballs inside the tank.
@@Sukhoi47Berkut1 no with speed it defenitely behaves differently. Try to push a cannonball thrue thick wood planks. After its pushed thrue, the hole will have roughly the shape and size of the ball. if u shoot the cannon ball thrue, the hole will be way smaller then the cannonball and can fit thrue. materials behave strange at high speed impacts and they start vibrating. The softer the material, the more it behaves like water and changes its form. also heat will get created + spinning of the projectile when the weapon has a rifled barrel. there are many aspects that are important. watch the video where they shot a piece of plastic with a railgun onto a metal plate. They wanted to test the impact of space debris. this small plastic part made a dent into the metal. If this plastic piece was simply pressed against the metal, it would be destroyed completely without even leaving a mark on the metal. speed is strange and a league of its own. Imagine a comet coming down to earth and the destruction a 100kg comet can make. impossible with just pressing it against the earth crust.
You cannot approximate what an armour piercing round will penetrate with a slow moving press as opposed to being shot out of a gun, the physics is all wrong.
Not if you're looking for deformation patterns, expansion, and general material displacement characteristics Not close to the same as firing a round, but definitely not without merit
And that, the objective is not to simulate shots, the objective is to compare projectiles and it is practically valid because they are in the same conditions
The depleted penetrator, is self sharpening during high kinetic impact. You can see that tiny side walk in the vety beginig. At high kinetic impact, the penetrator, doesn't have "time to deform", it just errods itself and self sharpen. And will have a side walk while still perpendicular on the impact surface. Tungsten is great as long as it remains perpendicular. If it deviates even a little it would most likely bounce.
.223 FMJ round will pierce 1/2" mild steel at 50yds, 1/4" at 100yds all day (I was using some old steel I had lying around as targets in the woods...I expected the targets to hold up better than they did). As said below, it is the result of the velocity that makes it penetrate. Cool to watch though, I thought depleted uranium was harder than that, and expected both to penetrate without deforming nearly as much, and did not know tungsten carbide was that much stronger than depleted uranium. Thanks for the video !
Reminds me of my younger days making hole punches for punch and shears in the metal working shop, we could punch a 20mm hole with a 20mm punch, just got to get the right steel to make it out of and then heat treat it just right
@@Andy152R incorrect. Depleted uranium (DU) is not highly malleable in its pure form. It is a dense and hard metal, similar to lead but harder and with a higher melting point. However, it is less malleable than metals like gold, copper, or aluminum.
@@dsan2910 uh... nothing I said was incorrect. It is pretty malleable. I never compared that to lead. Only its density. Read a bit better before commenting.
Newton and penetrator impact depth, has something to do with the density of materials, the theory of bunker buster weapons. I had expected the uranium to burst into flames, but it dodnt get pushed hard enough, the reason uranium is used is it melts into a hot penetrator, like a shaped charge explosive, better than tungsten. It also catches fire. The problen is the urinium didnt get hot enough.
Shaped charges don't actually melt into a penetrator. They remain solid. Its not really the temperature that causes damage, its the kinetic energy(speed and mass). A small pebble will punch a hole into a tank armor if it moves at an orbital speed. The faster an object moves, the less time the target material has to dissipate energy. If an object cant dissipate incoming energy, it will disintegrate.
Testing method is not relevant to how they supposed to work..but what ever…this channel is called “Hydraulic Press” so it super relevant to their content context 😂😂😂
The mechanism of action for DU is its weight combined with being pyrophoric, i.e. it burns in air. When it hits a target it becomes a molten penetrator which exposes unoxidized uranium to the air and this burns sucking all the oxygen out and killing everyone inside.
The reason for those inconclusive results is the lack of kinetic energy. On impact, the part of the target that got hit, becomes part of the projectile.
It proves clearly the difference between a static test vs dynamic. In reality even a 22lr bullets would go through the aluminum sheet and wood. (About 10 centimeters of wood point blank)
Density: DU is much denser than steel, giving it greater inertia and allowing it to penetrate deeper into a target. Velocity: DU projectiles are typically fired at very high speeds, which further increases their penetration capability. Shape: DU projectiles are often designed with streamlined shapes that allow them to pierce armor more effectively. In conclusion, while DU is less hard than steel, its combination of high density, high velocity, and optimized shape makes it an effective material for armor-piercing munitions.
a good answer is u need a certain amount of strengh in the material, but wath u need more is speed and density ... so go for titanium or depleeted uranium ^^
Do NOT breath in the depleted sabots dust. Do not hold in bare hands, DO NOT lick! DO NOT GRIND AND INHALE!!! No lines of DepU. We machined Depu Enclosed with dry machining cycle. A special hazzmat truck would handle all the swarf for recycleing / disposal.
1. Depleted uranium has a property known as adiabatic shearing where it become sharper as it passes through material. 2. Depleted uranium is pyrophoric where it will ignite at high temperatures, (as in those created by the friction of passing through armor). 3. It is way more abundant.
I don't know the Physics behind this. All I know is that I have fired a 40 grain .22 LR copper plated bullet at a 3/8" thick mild steel plate with very little to no damage. I've also fired a 30 grain .22 Magnum copper jacketed at the same plate and made a dent aprox. 1/2 way through the plate with a corresponding bulge on the back side of the plate. The only difference between the 2 rounds other than weight and one being copper plated and the other copper jacketed was speed. The .22 LR was rated on the box at 1070 fps. The .22 Magnum was rated at 2200 fps on the box. Speed does make a difference for sure even with a lighter projectile. I believe that I also fired a .40 grain .22 Magnum and I think it was rated at 1900 fps or so, with similar results to the lighter faster magnum.
The projectile needs to be hard enough to penetrate its intended target but soft enough to expand after penetration to cause the maximum amount of damage.
Like the KE-T APFSDS round we routinely use? Everyone and their sister is making tungsten rounds and all of them are quite supersonic. DU is better though.
It'll punch through that plate at high velocity. Even that copper jacketed .50 BMG will likely blow right through it as it is most likely just mild steel.
Second PS Copper hardens at ultra hard velocity and temps before its matter has a chance to change. It gives a punch thru efferct superior to steel. The best are Gold, Copper, Silver as I recall. Physics get funny at very high speeds and short moments. I didnt believe it till i watched ballistic high speed vids ! Crazy COPPER is WAY harder then steel for a MOMENT in time...just long enough it seems...Steel goes all liquid before so the copper wins!
Depleted Uranium is about 35% denser than Tungsten Carbide ... that gives it much more lethality against armor than TC. I have personally seen the damage from a DU shell on a tank through the thickest part of the armor and the hole it made through it was as if that armor was made out of butter and the softer DU sort of melts along the metal it is pushing through and splatters all through the inside of the tank. Nothing would survive inside that tank. I do think that DU shells should be illegal as I believe the dust it creates is extremely harmful to humans and the environment, even though it is supposed "depleted". |t should be treated the same as chemical weapons or nuclear weapons.
The tungsten outperforming the DU isn't surprising in this scenario, given that they're meant to be moving muuuuuuuch faster. If memory serves, the DU rounds are self-sharpening when theyre moving at the speed of mach jesus 😂
Tungsten also outperforms DU in higher velocities. DU is used because it gets the job done on present generation tanks. If higher exit velocities become the norm, tungsten will be used.
Definitely not real depleted uranium. Very few militaries have access to depleted uranium munitions, so they're definitely not available on the civilian market. Plus, the slug he's handling is way too light.
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The main operating principle behind projectiles is high matter density at high velocity, not high strength at low velocity.
I dont think that makes any difference, it is just force being applied to the projectile. However, the hydraulic press increases weight progressively while a projectile hits its target at full speed. Id say the force being applied slowly by the press makes it harder for the projectile to penetrate
Force equals half mass times acceleration.
Exactly.....velocity is ALL important!
@@joemichaels4231 ускорение важно - а ускорение у быстрых подкалиберных самое быстропадающее. Подкалиберные, они быстрее летят (1410 м/с), больше пробивают, но хуже нормализуются и быстрее теряют бронепробитие с расстоянием, чем стандартный снаряд танка - бронебойный
you're kidding right?
Its unrealistic as hell but fun to watch.
From what I vaguely recall Depleted Uranium is heavier than lead and harder than copper but behaves like copper thermite on impact, basically burning its way through the armour and most especially burning after it passes through the armour causing maximum harm to anything behind the armour.
The shape charge breaches the armor and the molten copper follows it through the hole. That’s why AT armor is just a mesh/fence around the heavy armor. To set off the shape charge before it hits the hull.
@kennybachman35 that's completely different weapon system
@@PatrykAndrzejewski0 that’s ALL* anti-armor weaponry. See this is why i got TF outta the military. Amateurs.
@@PatrykAndrzejewski0 ?
So?
I was talking about the properties and effects not the weapons systems.
@@kennybachman35 You are completely wrong. Stop yapping if you don't know what you are talking about
Combine this hardness with speed then you'll see the magic.
Not necessarily, DU rounds would ass fuck that 1/2 inch steel plate if fired from a gun.
Magic being tungsten explosion? Tungsten is more brittle than DU, leading to failure to penetrate in some circumstances where DU would punch through.
@@johndoe-jg7he That's really not saying much. 1/2 steel plate will be punctured by a lot of different rifle rounds without DU.
@@Canthus13This is tungsten carbide, not tungsten. Very hard and very brittle as well. Unless he has it wrong - I think there are both tungsten and tungsten carbide cores.
@@OnTheRiver66 I'm not sure, honestly. I don't know if both are used. I do know that tank rounds only use DU because tungsten doesn't have an incendiary effect like DU, and the penetrator gets rounded off as it penetrates, unlike DU which gets sharpened as it penetrates deeper, and then fireballs inside the tank.
The "Warning Do not try this at home" makes me laugh 😂
Where on Earth we can legally buy a DEPLETED URANIUM PENETRATOR as a civilian 🤣
its going to BEHAVE differently with speed 1200m/s
no, its the same, what do depleted uranium works is the rotation, without rotation, cant autosharp, then lose penetration capability.
It creat heat it 1200 fts.
Speed kills,
For years there use lead which is very soft. DU much harder than lead and create heat. When stomting is to hard it also tends to crumble.
@@Sukhoi47Berkut1 no with speed it defenitely behaves differently. Try to push a cannonball thrue thick wood planks. After its pushed thrue, the hole will have roughly the shape and size of the ball.
if u shoot the cannon ball thrue, the hole will be way smaller then the cannonball and can fit thrue.
materials behave strange at high speed impacts and they start vibrating. The softer the material, the more it behaves like water and changes its form.
also heat will get created + spinning of the projectile when the weapon has a rifled barrel.
there are many aspects that are important.
watch the video where they shot a piece of plastic with a railgun onto a metal plate. They wanted to test the impact of space debris.
this small plastic part made a dent into the metal.
If this plastic piece was simply pressed against the metal, it would be destroyed completely without even leaving a mark on the metal.
speed is strange and a league of its own.
Imagine a comet coming down to earth and the destruction a 100kg comet can make.
impossible with just pressing it against the earth crust.
You cannot approximate what an armour piercing round will penetrate with a slow moving press as opposed to being shot out of a gun, the physics is all wrong.
Not if you're looking for deformation patterns, expansion, and general material displacement characteristics
Not close to the same as firing a round, but definitely not without merit
he never said it was ballistics experiment. it's hydraulic press channel.
It is not all wrong, and it is entertaining.
And that, the objective is not to simulate shots, the objective is to compare projectiles and it is practically valid because they are in the same conditions
The depleted penetrator, is self sharpening during high kinetic impact. You can see that tiny side walk in the vety beginig. At high kinetic impact, the penetrator, doesn't have "time to deform", it just errods itself and self sharpen. And will have a side walk while still perpendicular on the impact surface. Tungsten is great as long as it remains perpendicular. If it deviates even a little it would most likely bounce.
Awesome content as usual!!
.223 FMJ round will pierce 1/2" mild steel at 50yds, 1/4" at 100yds all day (I was using some old steel I had lying around as targets in the woods...I expected the targets to hold up better than they did).
As said below, it is the result of the velocity that makes it penetrate.
Cool to watch though, I thought depleted uranium was harder than that, and expected both to penetrate without deforming nearly as much, and did not know tungsten carbide was that much stronger than depleted uranium.
Thanks for the video !
This was 🥱 as fuck. Where s the explosions, chaos, destruction that you use to have with old press
netflix: are you still watching?
me and my hamster 7:00
what the fuck
Very cool test
Reminds me of my younger days making hole punches for punch and shears in the metal working shop, we could punch a 20mm hole with a 20mm punch, just got to get the right steel to make it out of and then heat treat it just right
Nice, have fun having depleted uranium shaving on wherever you used that File on it.
Oh be quiet Sally
Tungsten treating that steel plate like a virgin.
No way that was depleted uranium.
Yes, it actually is. It is pretty malleable. It is also heavier than lead. That's why it is so effective.
L'Uranio depleted, è piroforico, si comporta come una fiamma ossidrica unicamente se lanciato ad alta velocità contro il metallo.
@@Andy152R incorrect. Depleted uranium (DU) is not highly malleable in its pure form. It is a dense and hard metal, similar to lead but harder and with a higher melting point. However, it is less malleable than metals like gold, copper, or aluminum.
@@dsan2910 uh... nothing I said was incorrect. It is pretty malleable. I never compared that to lead. Only its density. Read a bit better before commenting.
@@Andy152R let me restate in a way you might understand. Metal no soft. Metal hard. U no know things.
FREAKING AWESOME
Newton and penetrator impact depth, has something to do with the density of materials, the theory of bunker buster weapons. I had expected the uranium to burst into flames, but it dodnt get pushed hard enough, the reason uranium is used is it melts into a hot penetrator, like a shaped charge explosive, better than tungsten. It also catches fire. The problen is the urinium didnt get hot enough.
Shaped charges don't actually melt into a penetrator. They remain solid. Its not really the temperature that causes damage, its the kinetic energy(speed and mass). A small pebble will punch a hole into a tank armor if it moves at an orbital speed. The faster an object moves, the less time the target material has to dissipate energy. If an object cant dissipate incoming energy, it will disintegrate.
I was expecting a flash or flames too.
Testing method is not relevant to how they supposed to work..but what ever…this channel is called “Hydraulic Press” so it super relevant to their content context 😂😂😂
Its mush scarier to hear the a10 brrrrrrrr lol. Badass to hear in person, also it decimates tanks.
Other than the inherent joy of smashing things I'm not sure there is a point but I watched it.
How many things have you pressed and/or crushed so far?
The mechanism of action for DU is its weight combined with being pyrophoric, i.e. it burns in air. When it hits a target it becomes a molten penetrator which exposes unoxidized uranium to the air and this burns sucking all the oxygen out and killing everyone inside.
Going for Fusion some time? 😜
DU when fired at high speed self sharpens as it goes through armor.
D38 is pyrophoric at high velocity impact.
“Armor piercing rounds” ……btw.
Friendly criticism 😊
At high velocity probably, but with the press they are pearing out 🍐😁
The reason for those inconclusive results is the lack of kinetic energy. On impact, the part of the target that got hit, becomes part of the projectile.
Penetration without imparting any energy is simply a hole. Otherwise, dinosaurs will still be roaming the earth.
Awesome 👍👍
It proves clearly the difference between a static test vs dynamic. In reality even a 22lr bullets would go through the aluminum sheet and wood. (About 10 centimeters of wood point blank)
Finally i am confirmed that bupper one is uranium clotted and lower one is tungsten
imagine being 2000 degrees when you go through and melt the steel away...
doesn't DU have a higher hardness of around 50 RHC?
Density: DU is much denser than steel, giving it greater inertia and allowing it to penetrate deeper into a target.
Velocity: DU projectiles are typically fired at very high speeds, which further increases their penetration capability.
Shape: DU projectiles are often designed with streamlined shapes that allow them to pierce armor more effectively.
In conclusion, while DU is less hard than steel, its combination of high density, high velocity, and optimized shape makes it an effective material for armor-piercing munitions.
a good answer is u need a certain amount of strengh in the material, but wath u need more is speed and density ... so go for titanium or depleeted uranium ^^
Speed is the key. You can actually cut steel with water, but don't try that with hydraulic press
from now on tungsten-carbide is the coolest metal kind of thing in the world if you ask me!🤟🤟
alhough the hydraulic press itself is maybe even cooler actually 🤔
Armors pearing? 💀
Armor pairing? 💀
1:27 (5) 13/06/2024
It's official, tungsten carbide's what the Rev-9's made of. :P
Bro, you almost detonated a nuclear bomb!
7:35 Wow and tip is not even broken!
Can you try next time 5cm or AR500 plate and tungsten core???
Do NOT breath in the depleted sabots dust. Do not hold in bare hands, DO NOT lick! DO NOT GRIND AND INHALE!!! No lines of DepU. We machined Depu Enclosed with dry machining cycle.
A special hazzmat truck would handle all the swarf for recycleing / disposal.
Not sure if that was actually DU.
The core material is only a small part of the equation, velocity is many times more important
Tonelage?
The bullet that won't take no for an answer.
DU ammo turns molten when it hits at high velocity. burns its way through.
Depleted U HRC 35, Tungsten 90 HRC explains everything.
Rockwell scale.
This does not reflect dynamic loading of high velocity projectiles. So, this is relevant up to 9 mm
Very Nice 😎👍
It's called wolfram thank you for listening.
1. Depleted uranium has a property known as adiabatic shearing where it become sharper as it passes through material.
2. Depleted uranium is pyrophoric where it will ignite at high temperatures, (as in those created by the friction of passing through armor).
3. It is way more abundant.
Speed or velosity is what causes the penetration for these armor piercing cores. Cool video, but this isnt how the cores are designed to work
God damn I like the click bait tape!
DU need the energy of impact to generate the needed heat to really work, don't think pressing it will do the trick?
Now press tungsten into uranium on top of carbide disk. 😮
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that is not depleted uranium it is mild steel
I don't know the Physics behind this. All I know is that I have fired a 40 grain .22 LR copper plated bullet at a 3/8" thick mild steel plate with very little to no damage. I've also fired a 30 grain .22 Magnum copper jacketed at the same plate and made a dent aprox. 1/2 way through the plate with a corresponding bulge on the back side of the plate. The only difference between the 2 rounds other than weight and one being copper plated and the other copper jacketed was speed. The .22 LR was rated on the box at 1070 fps. The .22 Magnum was rated at 2200 fps on the box. Speed does make a difference for sure even with a lighter projectile. I believe that I also fired a .40 grain .22 Magnum and I think it was rated at 1900 fps or so, with similar results to the lighter faster magnum.
Energy scales up with the square of speed.
Penetration is a bout speed.
Tungsten carbide wins! But the density of TC is, I suspect, a bit less than U.
Ar500 plate vs tungsten
Could you imagine somebody making large capacity supersonic rounds out of tungsten probably go through buildings like it's made out of butter.
I think the navys rail gun uses a tungsten projectile
Awkward
The projectile needs to be hard enough to penetrate its intended target but soft enough to expand after penetration to cause the maximum amount of damage.
They do make those. They are called slap rounds.
Like the KE-T APFSDS round we routinely use? Everyone and their sister is making tungsten rounds and all of them are quite supersonic. DU is better though.
When u order DU bullets froms wish
It'll punch through that plate at high velocity. Even that copper jacketed .50 BMG will likely blow right through it as it is most likely just mild steel.
I would like to make a knife out of the DU projectile 👍
Second PS Copper hardens at ultra hard velocity and temps before its matter has a chance to change. It gives a punch thru efferct superior to steel. The best are Gold, Copper, Silver as I recall. Physics get funny at very high speeds and short moments. I didnt believe it till i watched ballistic high speed vids ! Crazy COPPER is WAY harder then steel for a MOMENT in time...just long enough it seems...Steel goes all liquid before so the copper wins!
Depleted Uranium is about 35% denser than Tungsten Carbide ... that gives it much more lethality against armor than TC. I have personally seen the damage from a DU shell on a tank through the thickest part of the armor and the hole it made through it was as if that armor was made out of butter and the softer DU sort of melts along the metal it is pushing through and splatters all through the inside of the tank. Nothing would survive inside that tank. I do think that DU shells should be illegal as I believe the dust it creates is extremely harmful to humans and the environment, even though it is supposed "depleted". |t should be treated the same as chemical weapons or nuclear weapons.
Not a conclusive test that’s not how bullets work send one at 900-1000 fps and it would be like butter lmfao
Wow 😮
All the comments about how it’s not realistic to how they’d go through at speed, no where does it say that was the purpose of the video
They use tungsten carbide from space to create earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. Kinetic weapons.
Haiti was the testing ground. They used 3 rods. Hillary was involved with child trafficking post earthquake.
やべえ。弾頭の形そのままで鉄板ぶち抜きやがった、、、
戦車の貫通弾は鉄板1000mmでもぶち抜くらしいが、これはガチだ。
Tungsten is still inferior because of it's brittleness compared to DU.
The tungsten outperforming the DU isn't surprising in this scenario, given that they're meant to be moving muuuuuuuch faster. If memory serves, the DU rounds are self-sharpening when theyre moving at the speed of mach jesus 😂
Tungsten also outperforms DU in higher velocities. DU is used because it gets the job done on present generation tanks. If higher exit velocities become the norm, tungsten will be used.
Definitely not real depleted uranium. Very few militaries have access to depleted uranium munitions, so they're definitely not available on the civilian market. Plus, the slug he's handling is way too light.
Geiger counter would have been nice to confirm.
Depleted uranium is available on the civilian market. Also, small northern european gov't are pretty friendly to youtube channels that make money.
Isn't that uranium dust radio active and toxic to breathe?
Yes, I wouldn't use a file on that thing.
May , he dont know 🤔😮😦😖
Depleted uranium isn't very radioactive. Its more dangerous as a toxic heavy metal than as a radio-isotope, by a long shot.
This is ammo abuse. 😢
The use of depleted uranium ammunition is a crime against humanity.
That depends on who you're shooting them at.
25 HRC? Wtf?
I'm severely misinformed.
This is not how projectiles work in the least. Squishing stuff in a press is still entertaining though.
Mass + high velocity equals penetration & destruction.
Of course, wolfram is better, but it is much more expensive than depleted uranium, which is a by-product, i.e. waste.
trice more expensive u.u
😂❤❤ crazy
IM not sure preasure same with Velocity, and you has no kinetic energi
This is not depleted uranium either 🤦
Какой то глупый эксперимент, в чем смысл давить пулей? При выстреле действуют скорость и масса.
0:41 bro is a coin
Comparar um metal de 25hrc de dureza com outro metal de 90hrc de dureza, chega a ser ridículo, para não dizer infantil!
No music, no please!
Warum?? Ohne Musik ist langweilig.
ALUMINUM..LOL
1 é sbagliata la prova d'utilizzo dei proiettili,non funzionano in maniera statica sotto carico
2 complimenti per come maneggi proiettili all'uranio impoverito (dubito)
Lol spell check your video title. Pearing? You mean (piercing). And armor not armor(s).
😂😂🤣🤣 All the "experts" in this comment section.
What a waste of time , one have to simulate actual conditions like impact velocity , size of target , support conditions .... Etc
DU is dense it does need high HRC. Besides, it was easy to use because thats how the US military got rid of it. It's a byproduct of nuclear reactors.
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This test is not effective
Demonstration makes absolutely no sense and has very little relevancy.
You obviously do not use firearms
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