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Here's a start: 00:55 Mental Health; Alzheimer's 03:00 Brain aging 03:58 Diet effects 06:17 Need for sleep 07:40 Need for fat/cholesterol 07:55 Diet change last 50 years & 'retirement homes' 09:11 Longevity; we are not living longer 11:05 Natural brain deterioration given good diet/sleep 13:33 Hong Kong longest life expectancy; 1 ½ lbs of meat per person/day 14:42 The Blue Zone (Lancet) study is nonsense 16:45 Recovery from brain deterioration 17:40 My father/Parkinson's experience 22:48 Mom's cooking issue and diabetes improvements 24:11 Pedaling for Parkinson's 25:18 Alzheimer's refered to as Type-3 Diabetes 26:58 Keytones are brain's primary fuel source 28:56 “You don't know enough to know how wrong you are” 29:56 Fructose is worse than sucrose 37:26 Body tells you when to stop eating...food doesn't taste good. 37:52 Eat when you're hungry 39:46 Excess fat; extended fasts 45:33 Longevity 120-130; chromosomaly 45:20 NAD fusions; telemeres additions
I can’t wait to see some studies on women carnivores in regards to age of onset of menopause, severity of symptoms, menstrual symptoms, breast milk production, etc.
I know you have soooo many followers and are really reaching far and wide ( as you should! ) .. but I really think we need to bring back the shirtless screenshot of you to get more folks to join the carnivore crusade ! 🙂
My dad was a neurologist. He hated statins, said the brain was made of cholesterol so statins would naturally cause mental issues. This makes perfect sense to me.
In the movie Grumpy Old Men the oldest character (90+) was sitting at the lake fishing having a cigarette. His 70 yo old son scolded him for smoking. The old man said for breakfast he had bacon then later he had a bacon sandwich and for dinner he had more bacon. It's one of my favorite movies. The old man was trim, mentally sharp and happy
This was a strong episode today, filled with great information. Even though I know a lot of the information being given, I find it is very helpful to keep watching every video that comes out from low/no carb content creators, to immerse myself in this type of thinking, to keep my motivation high to stay on a carnivore woe. Thank you both for taking the time to make these videos. I look forward to more!
@@anthonychaffeemd is hypothyroidism being treated with dessicated thyroid, aswell as hypogondasim treated with TRT, something carnivore can work toward healing/reversing to potentially drop these medications one day?
Before I got into nursing, I worked as a housekeeper at a retirement home for 3 years. I worked on almost every floor for over 100 different residents, and was there long enough to see residents passing away or needing to move to long term care or memory care. Although it's morbid to say, I could always predict which ones would go downhill faster. Since I wasn't a doctor or nurse (yet), I knew I couldn't say much unless they were receptive to it, because older people in my country are very firm about listening to their doctor. But the ones who were open, I always made a point to say: start by staying away from sugar and grains, eat more meat to compensate, and see how you feel.
@@HaHaroni I recommend against seed oils too but if you eat a slice of cake every day made with butter instead of vegetable oil do you think you'll be healthy?
@@ada5851 Currently, we're working with the baseline where nearly everybody has a toxic load of seed oils. I think if people are metabolically healthy they can eat cake without any bad outcome.
Hello Dr. My grandmother had Alzheimer’s, it was so sad to see the grandmother you knew just lose her mind and change completely. Looking back, and knowing what I now know it’s no wonder she did, with the way she ate. Now my mother is getting older and there is a very big risk that she too will get Alzheimer’s. She has diabetes, gout, and fatty liver etc etc. So she avoids red meat as much as possible and she avoids fatty foods, because she doesn’t have a gallbladder anymore. She’s quite overweight, so much working against her. She thinks good health is not possible for her anymore so she will not even try. Both my parents are stuck in the time where fat was the enemy and whole grains were the best things. So they scoff at keto and really balk at only meat. If they only knew! I hate that they have to suffer because they won’t try something different. They are concerned that I feed my daughter a ketovore diet. She’s so much healthier than most of her cousins and friends, and it’s quite evident, by the lack of ear infections, digestion and skin problems. Of course it could also be due to no vaccinations… but that’s a whole another story.
Love listening to your information. I have been Carnivore for over a year now and my family and friends still think i am going to die. I just can't get them to research and listen to information out there.
Great catch about the Okinawan diet! They do eat more Pork Belly than seafood. They also do a lot of walking around town. Okinawans aren't Japanese either. Eat those animal fats not the processed fats!
I've been telling everyone even way before I just now listened to this video my first 60yrs was good my 2nd 60 years are going to be Extraordinary. I tell people what I eat and where I came from health wise everyone thinks I'm nuts look at me like I have 2 heads. Thank you Dr Chaffee
Sadly, this explains the reason for my mom’s illness, depression and dementia. I always knew some of her problems were diet related. Now I know that most, if not all, of her problems were a result of her diet.
Same thing here. Mom was a carb addict and did not like meat, fish and stopped eating eggs. Took over her care and was able to get her body healthy and put 20 lbs on her emaciated body, got her off most drugs, but unable to reverse the dementia.
A few years back l had a thyroid blood test which l have every 6 months, but they also checked my *cholesterol. *That came back as 7 l think? (I am in UK) When l saw the nurse practitioner at the GP practice, and, before she even mentioned statins, l told her that there is no way would l ever take them as they are detrimental to health, and she totally agreed with me! 😎
I can feel that so well. Today I had the best training session 18 hours into a fast while on a carnivore/keto diet. Normally my mind gets exhausted along with my body but now I could go further because my mind was just as sharp at the end of my session as in the beginning. It's crazy!
Great episode Dr. Chaffee! I believe the fat man fasting for 9 months story you talked about is Angus Barbieri, who actually fasted for over a year! Scottish man Angus Barbieri (1939 - 7 September 1990) fasted for 382 days, from June 1965 to July 1966. He lived on tea, coffee, soda water, and vitamins while living at home in Tayport, Scotland, and frequently visiting Maryfield Hospital for medical evaluation.
I sure hope that you live to 125! If anyone can do it, you can. I also think that OMAD may not be the way to go for young women who have to protect their hormones. LISTEN TO YOUR BODY, as you said, is great advice.
So happy to hear about the wine consumer! I am on carnivore, I’ve been on it for months, started out by default. Prior to that have been on keto since 2019. But I love my red wine and I know i drink way too much. That just made my day lol. I’m 62, thought I’d probably be out of here within a couple of years , now I realize I might be here for another 40 some years.😊 actually two more years sounds better than another 40.
I looked after a patient 94 years old, smoker slim full faculties. She did sadly have lung cancer, I asked her same thing, what foods you eat as she looked amazing, was fully mobile, she told me she ate bacon and eggs every morning . From uk
That's awesome. Yeah of the news articles of the oldest people on Earth, nearly every one talks about eating bacon and eggs. Anecdotal, but interesting
I really appreciate you. Thank you. The best information every time. I appreciate how your brain works, and the clarity of your conviction. Super refreshing.
My goal is to live to as healthy as possible to 107 so I can say I lived through 3 centuries - 1900s, 2000s, & 2100s. I certainly believe it is possible!
Haha I never even thought about it like that but that is an awesome way to think about it! I too hope to live through three centuries as well and I'm sure that both of us can on this diet, boring any unforeseen and unfortunate accident
I got sencored with my post but you are the man to listen too.Living off the land is what we naturally have done. Thanks for your knowledge. You are onto someone big.😊😊😊😊❤❤❤ it.
I think the idea that the body’s preferred fuel is glucose is that people say on a biological level, that’s how our body runs best. People like Dr. Ray Peat also push this. Lots of people in the prometabolic space feel this way. But for me, I do best in ketones and my brain atrophy symptoms are much better after adopting a ketogenic diet and fasting 12hrs a day.
That’s a myth. Ketones rule! Dr Ken Berry has excellent videos on this and Dr Chaffee has also in other videos stressed this. There are SO many medical myths spawned by the pharmaceutical companies’ studies to support their products. Dr Berry has a book Lies My Doctor Told Me.
14:05 the Japanese also have the 2nd highest per capita egg consumption in the world. As well as all that fish they are well known to eat. Having all that mountainous land that isn't suitable to ruminant farming they had to look elsewhere for their protein
Hi Dr Chaffee I am 64 and on Keto since 3 years and have never hade any health issues in my life. However I am considering trying Carnivore for some months. Would it be possible for you to adress some of the most common arguments against this diet, such as iron buildup, histamine sensitivity, uric acid, research indicating shorter lifespan etc. - Thank you for great videos.
There an accident study showing ira life expectancy in every country tested in a recent publication. But you don't get it iron builderall uric acid build up these are just hypotheticals which are not born out in practice. This is actually the way the fear evolved and it is our offer more diet and therefore we are not going to have problems associated with it
The biggest benefit to a long fast (24hr and longer) is the body starts going thru autophagy and cleans house. For me, it is the number one reason for doing a long fast.
Seems to me that chronic inflammation (high insulin levels) slowly destroys the arteries, veins and capillaries, which in turn reduces blood flow and nutrients to the brain.
Excellent interview and I agree that we should endeavor to live as long as we can on this Earth.. But the fact still remains that everybody will die and the most important thing is where we will spend eternity. Praying that everybody who is reading these words will trust in Christ alone as their savior and receive the immediate, permanent, free gift of salvation and eternal life through faith in Christ alone As their savior.
Gregg Jackson. We get more time in our right minds and healthy bodies to share that Good News!!! And then have eternity after that. All God willing of course. 😉
Amen!!! *The Biblical End-Times Prophecies are all coming together, and Jesus is coming back soon!* Don’t believe? Consider this: *The Bible is the only book with 100% accurate Prophecy.* Many of these were written hundreds of years before they came to pass, and the Dead Sea Scrolls prove this. *The Bible is real. Jesus is real.* Seek Him with a humble and open heart, and you’ll find Him!! Jesus died on the cross and *shed His blood to pay the price for our sins.* He was buried and rose three days later (and was later taken up to heaven, but He left the Holy Spirit for us!). 🕊 *1 Corinthians 15* If you *believe in your heart that God raised Jesus from the dead* and *confess with your mouth that He is Lord,* you will be saved. Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved! ❤️ *Romans 10* God bless everyone here! 🕊
The Bible describes people living until 120 after the flood. It also talks about people living now 70 to 80 years because it talks about a generation being 70 years and if it is 80 it's full of woe, but I believe the 70 to 80 passage is actually talking about the generation being applied to The Nation of Israel. Sorry, I know that is going in a different direction, but just had to throw that out there, so I do believe we can and should be living until 120.
We certainly have a leg up when we understand the Word and the knowledge of science which confirms the Word. Gluttony is a very serious and grave matter in the Word. Most faith congregations won't even touch it. The Way is narrow and few find it.
A generation means the age when people have kids! For example, a generation these days is typically 25 years. If the bible says a generation was 70-80 years, that means that people were having kids in their seventies and living to be 120!
Wow! 👏 I really enjoyed this! Great conversation. I'm glad to hear that carnivore helped your parents so much. Those are fantastic results! Do you think we should be drinking milk? Some say if you do you'll gain weight/fat.? 🤷♀️ IDK? Thanks so much.😊
My brother died at 18 with epilepsy, he was diagnosed at 15. My sister bacame scitophrinic at 17 has never recovered. I became prediabetic with huge sugar swings. I've been carnivore for 3years and feel great. My father recently died with degenerative spine and late stage parkinson's. I think my family has suffered because of ignorance of the proper human diet. I wish we knew. Is there any studies about parkinson's and carnivore diet.
Parkinsons falls under the umbrella term dementia. Alzheimers, Huntingtons, and Parkinsons are all forms of dementia. So, anything you find resource wise on different types of dementia probably apply in at least some way to each other.
Genesis 6:3 (NKJV Strong's) 3 And the LORD said, "My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years."
Genesis 9:3 (NKJV Strong's) 3 Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. I have given you all things, even as the green herbs. 4 But you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood.
My biggest fear growing older is dementia or altzheimers. As of this writing I am 53 years old. I'm seeing a lot of RUclips videos pointing at high cholesterol as a key driver of altzheimers. Yet at the same time they also say high grain diet also contributes to it. I'm not 100% carnivor but close. I do eat apples sometimes and occasional French fry. But the bulk of my diet is beef steaks, ground beef, pork sausage, bacon, and pasture raised eggs. My recent blood test was impressive to my doctor with the exception of my cholesterol. Total cholesterol was 240 and LDL is 138. My doctor is telling me to increase fiber, reduce fatty meat consumption and exercise more. I realize for legal reasons you can't tell me my doctor is wrong but are there studies or even anecdotal evidence that shows my cholesterol numbers are fine and fatty meat is my friend and it won't cause altzheimers?
I just watched a Sten Ekberg video on cholesterol. Instead of just looking at total numbers or just LDL or HDL, there are actually 7-9 markers to consider. View that and decide.
There are tons of great videos that will set your mind at ease on this topic (by Dr. Chaffee, Dr. Cywes, Judy Cho, Dr. Sarah Zaldivar, Dr. Ken Berry, Nina Teicholtz, and many other). Also, statistically, in people over 60, the total cholesterol level that is correlated with highest longevity is 220, so I think any doctor who urges you to go below that should be sued for malpractice. Or at least given a stern talking to! 😠 Cholesterol is your friend. It is neuroprotective. It fulfills many vitally important functions in your body. If it's "high" (a totally arbitrary term that changes meaning every few years) it's because your body is using it to save some problem. It NEEDS to be high until the problem is solved. You don't put out fires by shooting all the firemen, right?
Oh I'm sorry I meant to edit my comment and realized it was deleted did not mean to offend. I forwarded this video to my mom. I'm trying to get her to eat a higher fat diet. she was diagnosed with early stages of Alzheimer's disease and trying to help 🙏
"you don't know enough to know how wrong you are" I've used that line. People read and believe anything said by their preferred influencers two sentence explanation of something that person read from their favorite influence, that saw a click bait title that they likely didn't even click. that's education for people today, adults included. learn to read research and think for yourself.
About the skin issue, if you're not eating protein your body should metabolize the skin to maintain protein stores. It makes sense that he would have no excess skin at the end of the fast.
I’ve been doing regular keto & IF 3 1/2 years now and gotten off all 17 meds. I want to do carnivore keto. I actually tried it for a month but I was emitting a strong ammonia oder all over. I was told the liver metabolizes protein with ammonia as a byproduct. Suggestions? (Daily bathing doesn’t help)
Parkinson's seems to benefit from keto as well because of lack of nutrition. That's the commonality here. If u have metabolic syndrome your Parkinson's will be worse. There is also an idea that Parkinson's might be autoimmune related because there seems to be a link between viruses and Parkinson's. So many people try automimmune diets like carnivore and some do get relief. My dad was a neurologist.
Dr. Chaffey could you please tell me whether your Dad ate his meat separate to taking his Parkinson’s medication? My Mum has been told her Madapar medication uses the same brain receptor as the uptake of protein from your diet and therefore she should cut down on protein. Im thinking to maximize both, just have the meat separate to the meds during the day.
I'm not sure about that specific medication because I don't treat Parkinson's medically, however yes my father is on medications and carnivore at the moment. I don't know if he's on that specific one though
Either way I don't think there's anytime we're an optimal biologically appropriate diet is going to be a bad idea, and it's never about idea to eliminate toxins from the alternative foods that would need to be eaten.
Dr. Chaffee, my parents and brother had narcissistic/psychopath disorder, l had reaction to them with other harm avoidence trauma behaviors, l need to go carnivore and l'm working on it, my parents now dead they were eating a diet that was feeding into their behavior, l think their brains were depleted just like mine has with wrong foods, l'm 45, lm still allowing arugula with my meat, and some sauce like ketchup and mild buffalo sauce, l got it from whole foods brand (ketchup), the buffalo is from Franks brand, lm still drinking tea, l really picked up on what you said about even a little bit of the wrong foods are causing enough damage to your brain, l just threw away natural sugar bag l used every now and then with tea, bacon helps me a lot, in India domestic violence is very bad and they do eat lots of plants, spices, carbs, rice, and l remember being Indian getting asthma and anger rage memories from complex ptsd and bad memories of being abused after eating indian food, in my early 20s, learning being lndian food wasn't working with me.
Genesis 6:3 KJV Bible And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
Dr. Chaffee, how is your thyroid? I have a Chinese Facial Chart and it says that if the last third of your eyebrows are gone then there is a thyroid issue. I've noticed the same with Dr. Shawn Baker. Thanks
My thyroid is perfect, thanks for asking. That can be a sign of low thyroid, but when you see that the lateral portions are almost completely gone, or gone. Mine are the same as they have been since I was a kid, and might just not be showing up well on this video
Good chat gents… would be interested to hear Dr Chaffee’s take on what the Paleo Medicina group recommend which is essentially a strict ketovore. Only 400gr of food per day of which 85% is calories from animal fat for 70kg person. This ratio seems to maintain a good ketone level of about 2. They do seem to get awesome results but surely its not enough food over a long period ?
This is brilliant but still lacks articulation in certain areas, though your communication skills are greatly improved. I can attempt to explain what I mean if you are interested. Your basic message could not be more important and deserves to be much more widely communicated. You are an inspiration!
I agree with (what I think) you are saying: the carnivore movement needs at least one great rhetorician. Dr. Chaffee is so ridiculously busy that I can't see him making time to become that, but someone should.
Where can I find the accounts of Thomas Jeffersons interactions with the Native Americans, as well as the Ethiopians with the Persians? Thank you. God bless
. 1) Is glycogen/blood glucose necessary for "anaerobic" exercise? . 2) It is said that all species have increased life expectancy under caloric restriction. True? Could this opinion be due to experiments that don't use the species' actual natural diet?
Ive got a video idea: explaing the different reasons why some people get problems on the carnivore diet and then stop it because they think its bad for them Also do you think carnivore diet can help with adhd?
I’ve heard of folks doing this for long term. Nothing in the literature that insists you eat more often.!Just eat when hungry/if only hungry once a day great! I was surprised when that happened to me and have enjoyed my 40 pound weight loss.
Dr. Chaffee my mother has had several mini strokes and I'm noticing she is forgetful in the short term for example she doesn't remember talking to me the previous day, so I am curious would a ketogenic diet help her ? She has changed her carb consumption and is off metformin for type 2 diabetes. Myself ketovore for almost 2 yrs.
How old is she? If she is more than 10 years after menopause, and didn't do estrogen therapy, she may have the beginnings of dementia. If that's the case, not much else u can do except make sure not diabetic and stick to keto diet. Ketones can help but lack of estrogen is a main cause of alzheimers
@@iss8504 yes she's 78 I believe she use to wear a little patch which maybe was estrogen, she was type 2 and she changed her diet and is off metformin but still needs to eat more ketogenic.
@@iss8504I’m 65, 10 years past menopause and never went on estrogen therapy. So, I’m at risk for Alzheimer’s? Or have it? What recourse do I have? I eat mostly meat and butter with an occasional potato, grape juice, and maple syrup. This is very disheartening news
What about Bruce Aymes triage theory of aging.. A theory but interesting. Doesn't carnivore mean we miss out on some micro nutrients.. No problem today but after a few decades that's when problems may arise
The Worlds Oldest People May not be as Old as you Think by Isabel Whitcomb…Japan has illiteracy, violence, bad health issues…very few people own an auto.
What about autism in its various levels? My husband is a functioning autistic and T2 diabetic. I've been able to get him on mostly keto and his sugar and weight has dramatically improved, but he has a hard time sustaining it for an extended period.
Carnivore diet is deficient in Vitamin C and if I'm not wrong, human body cant synthesize it on its own. Is it a good idea to throw in some fruits or vegetables to balance it off?
Napoleon cured scurvy in his troplops with horsemeat. Vit c requirements are much higher if u eat carbs because glucose and vit c compete for same receptors.
@@anthonychaffeemd often wondered about that.........just out of interest.....I live in Mildura Victoria on the Murray River.....this is a grape growing region on the Murray River founded by William and Charles Chaffey in the 1800’s. They were from California....although the spelling is different. ....any connection?
@@itzakpoelzig330 The list is vast but here are a few: High vegetable fat, low nutrient diets Circadian rhythm disorders(excess blue light at night) Vitamin D deficiency(lack of sunlight) Lack of exercise Endotoxins(poor gut health)
@@kingofwesteros9868 no, what is important is the ratio between HDL and triglycerides... But one of the beautiful things about the carnivore diet is you don't have to worry about it if your otherwise healthy and eating well
I can't wait to use this for my rhetoric class as examples of bad, baseless arguments. Also, on your Podcast version, you misspell affects as effects. I am appalled that you can mislead gullible people this way. How about Vitamin C? Does that come from pork or is it as deadly as other plants?
If anyone is able to mark out the time stamps for this episode, it would be very much appreciated! Please post them in a reply to this message if you are able to do it. Thank you very much!
Here's a start:
00:55 Mental Health; Alzheimer's
03:00 Brain aging
03:58 Diet effects
06:17 Need for sleep
07:40 Need for fat/cholesterol
07:55 Diet change last 50 years & 'retirement homes'
09:11 Longevity; we are not living longer
11:05 Natural brain deterioration given good diet/sleep
13:33 Hong Kong longest life expectancy; 1 ½ lbs of meat per person/day
14:42 The Blue Zone (Lancet) study is nonsense
16:45 Recovery from brain deterioration
17:40 My father/Parkinson's experience
22:48 Mom's cooking issue and diabetes improvements
24:11 Pedaling for Parkinson's
25:18 Alzheimer's refered to as Type-3 Diabetes
26:58 Keytones are brain's primary fuel source
28:56 “You don't know enough to know how wrong you are”
29:56 Fructose is worse than sucrose
37:26 Body tells you when to stop eating...food doesn't taste good.
37:52 Eat when you're hungry
39:46 Excess fat; extended fasts
45:33 Longevity 120-130; chromosomaly
45:20 NAD fusions; telemeres additions
I can’t wait to see some studies on women carnivores in regards to age of onset of menopause, severity of symptoms, menstrual symptoms, breast milk production, etc.
Look up Dr Elizabeth Bright who talks about hormones, thyroid, menopause and how females need good fats and cholesterol @rebeccacampbell8020
I know you have soooo many followers and are really reaching far and wide ( as you should! ) .. but I really think we need to bring back the shirtless screenshot of you to get more folks to join the carnivore crusade ! 🙂
My dad was a neurologist. He hated statins, said the brain was made of cholesterol so statins would naturally cause mental issues. This makes perfect sense to me.
Smart man. He saw further than most
In the movie Grumpy Old Men the oldest character (90+) was sitting at the lake fishing having a cigarette. His 70 yo old son scolded him for smoking. The old man said for breakfast he had bacon then later he had a bacon sandwich and for dinner he had more bacon. It's one of my favorite movies. The old man was trim, mentally sharp and happy
thanks I'll watch!
This was a strong episode today, filled with great information. Even though I know a lot of the information being given, I find it is very helpful to keep watching every video that comes out from low/no carb content creators, to immerse myself in this type of thinking, to keep my motivation high to stay on a carnivore woe. Thank you both for taking the time to make these videos. I look forward to more!
Exactly how I feel.
Thank you very much! I'm glad you liked it and found out useful
Repetition is reinforcement!
@@anthonychaffeemd is hypothyroidism being treated with dessicated thyroid, aswell as hypogondasim treated with TRT, something carnivore can work toward healing/reversing to potentially drop these medications one day?
Before I got into nursing, I worked as a housekeeper at a retirement home for 3 years. I worked on almost every floor for over 100 different residents, and was there long enough to see residents passing away or needing to move to long term care or memory care. Although it's morbid to say, I could always predict which ones would go downhill faster. Since I wasn't a doctor or nurse (yet), I knew I couldn't say much unless they were receptive to it, because older people in my country are very firm about listening to their doctor. But the ones who were open, I always made a point to say: start by staying away from sugar and grains, eat more meat to compensate, and see how you feel.
Sugar and grains are a problem because of seed oil. You might want to include that in your recommendation.
@@HaHaroni I recommend against seed oils too but if you eat a slice of cake every day made with butter instead of vegetable oil do you think you'll be healthy?
@@ada5851 Currently, we're working with the baseline where nearly everybody has a toxic load of seed oils.
I think if people are metabolically healthy they can eat cake without any bad outcome.
Hello Dr.
My grandmother had Alzheimer’s, it was so sad to see the grandmother you knew just lose her mind and change completely. Looking back, and knowing what I now know it’s no wonder she did, with the way she ate. Now my mother is getting older and there is a very big risk that she too will get Alzheimer’s. She has diabetes, gout, and fatty liver etc etc. So she avoids red meat as much as possible and she avoids fatty foods, because she doesn’t have a gallbladder anymore.
She’s quite overweight, so much working against her. She thinks good health is not possible for her anymore so she will not even try. Both my parents are stuck in the time where fat was the enemy and whole grains were the best things. So they scoff at keto and really balk at only meat.
If they only knew! I hate that they have to suffer because they won’t try something different. They are concerned that I feed my daughter a ketovore diet. She’s so much healthier than most of her cousins and friends, and it’s quite evident, by the lack of ear infections, digestion and skin problems.
Of course it could also be due to no vaccinations… but that’s a whole another story.
You sound like a great parent! Your daughter is so lucky to be getting such an advantageous start in life.
❤@@itzakpoelzig330
Yeah! A child with no injected poison!
Love listening to your information. I have been Carnivore for over a year now and my family and friends still think i am going to die. I just can't get them to research and listen to information out there.
I’m in the same boat ! It makes no sense because their overweight out of shape etc..
Totally addictive to junk!
Great catch about the Okinawan diet! They do eat more Pork Belly than seafood. They also do a lot of walking around town. Okinawans aren't Japanese either. Eat those animal fats not the processed fats!
I've been telling everyone even way before I just now listened to this video my first 60yrs was good my 2nd 60 years are going to be Extraordinary. I tell people what I eat and where I came from health wise everyone thinks I'm nuts look at me like I have 2 heads. Thank you Dr Chaffee
The skin does shrink down when you fast for long periods of time. It's the best way to get rid of the saggy skin, no nipping and tucking.
I’ve listened to this 3 times now over the last several months. So direct, so hopeful. Thank you!
I'm really glad to hear that! Thank you very much, I'm glad you liked it.
What a blessing you have been to your parents!!! They must be proud of the lives you are changing!!!
Sadly, this explains the reason for my mom’s illness, depression and dementia. I always knew some of her problems were diet related. Now I know that most, if not all, of her problems were a result of her diet.
Same thing here. Mom was a carb addict and did not like meat, fish and stopped eating eggs. Took over her care and was able to get her body healthy and put 20 lbs on her emaciated body, got her off most drugs, but unable to reverse the dementia.
@@juliebutler8241 Yes, I know, so sad, my brother too.
A few years back l had a thyroid blood test which l have every 6 months, but they also checked my *cholesterol. *That came back as 7 l think? (I am in UK) When l saw the nurse practitioner at the GP practice, and, before she even mentioned statins, l told her that there is no way would l ever take them as they are detrimental to health, and she totally agreed with me! 😎
I can feel that so well. Today I had the best training session 18 hours into a fast while on a carnivore/keto diet. Normally my mind gets exhausted along with my body but now I could go further because my mind was just as sharp at the end of my session as in the beginning.
It's crazy!
Great episode Dr. Chaffee! I believe the fat man fasting for 9 months story you talked about is Angus Barbieri, who actually fasted for over a year!
Scottish man Angus Barbieri (1939 - 7 September 1990) fasted for 382 days, from June 1965 to July 1966. He lived on tea, coffee, soda water, and vitamins while living at home in Tayport, Scotland, and frequently visiting Maryfield Hospital for medical evaluation.
I sure hope that you live to 125! If anyone can do it, you can. I also think that OMAD may not be the way to go for young women who have to protect their hormones. LISTEN TO YOUR BODY, as you said, is great advice.
I agree 100% about OMAD and hormone issues for women AND men too.
So happy to hear about the wine consumer! I am on carnivore, I’ve been on it for months, started out by default. Prior to that have been on keto since 2019. But I love my red wine and I know i drink way too much. That just made my day lol. I’m 62, thought I’d probably be out of here within a couple of years , now I realize I might be here for another 40 some years.😊 actually two more years sounds better than another 40.
I looked after a patient 94 years old, smoker slim full faculties. She did sadly have lung cancer, I asked her same thing, what foods you eat as she looked amazing, was fully mobile, she told me she ate bacon and eggs every morning . From uk
That's awesome. Yeah of the news articles of the oldest people on Earth, nearly every one talks about eating bacon and eggs. Anecdotal, but interesting
“Bullshitizing.” What a great word. Awesome show!
I really appreciate you. Thank you. The best information every time. I appreciate how your brain works, and the clarity of your conviction. Super refreshing.
My grandfather just passed away at 98 due to an infection not age. He ate bacon and eggs every single morning. Sharp as a tack still too
My goal is to live to as healthy as possible to 107 so I can say I lived through 3 centuries - 1900s, 2000s, & 2100s. I certainly believe it is possible!
Haha I never even thought about it like that but that is an awesome way to think about it! I too hope to live through three centuries as well and I'm sure that both of us can on this diet, boring any unforeseen and unfortunate accident
Imagine the stories you'll be able to tell the young'uns.
I hate to say it, but I don’t think we’re going to get past 2030 the way this world is going!
I got sencored with my post but you are the man to listen too.Living off the land is what we naturally have done. Thanks for your knowledge. You are onto someone big.😊😊😊😊❤❤❤ it.
I think the idea that the body’s preferred fuel is glucose is that people say on a biological level, that’s how our body runs best. People like Dr. Ray Peat also push this. Lots of people in the prometabolic space feel this way. But for me, I do best in ketones and my brain atrophy symptoms are much better after adopting a ketogenic diet and fasting 12hrs a day.
That’s a myth. Ketones rule! Dr Ken Berry has excellent videos on this and Dr Chaffee has also in other videos stressed this. There are SO many medical myths spawned by the pharmaceutical companies’ studies to support their products. Dr Berry has a book Lies My Doctor Told Me.
14:05 the Japanese also have the 2nd highest per capita egg consumption in the world. As well as all that fish they are well known to eat. Having all that mountainous land that isn't suitable to ruminant farming they had to look elsewhere for their protein
And fish eggs too!
Hi Dr Chaffee I am 64 and on Keto since 3 years and have never hade any health issues in my life. However I am considering trying Carnivore for some months.
Would it be possible for you to adress some of the most common arguments against this diet, such as iron buildup, histamine sensitivity, uric acid, research indicating shorter lifespan etc. - Thank you for great videos.
There an accident study showing ira life expectancy in every country tested in a recent publication. But you don't get it iron builderall uric acid build up these are just hypotheticals which are not born out in practice. This is actually the way the fear evolved and it is our offer more diet and therefore we are not going to have problems associated with it
Super interesting discussion!
The biggest benefit to a long fast (24hr and longer) is the body starts going thru autophagy and cleans house.
For me, it is the number one reason for doing a long fast.
You get that just by being on a Carnivore diet as well
Seems to me that chronic inflammation (high insulin levels) slowly destroys the arteries, veins and capillaries, which in turn reduces blood flow and nutrients to the brain.
I have so enjoyed you Dr Chaffee. Good content delivered in a very easily understandable way. Thanks so much!
Thank you CJ, I really appreciate it!
Excellent interview and I agree that we should endeavor to live as long as we can on this Earth.. But the fact still remains that everybody will die and the most important thing is where we will spend eternity. Praying that everybody who is reading these words will trust in Christ alone as their savior and receive the immediate, permanent, free gift of salvation and eternal life through faith in Christ alone As their savior.
Now if Christ had been telling everyone not to eat bread, we might be onto something.
Gregg Jackson. We get more time in our right minds and healthy bodies to share that Good News!!! And then have eternity after that. All God willing of course. 😉
Good to see you here brother Gregg. God bless you. Come Lord Jesus Christ!
Amen!!! *The Biblical End-Times Prophecies are all coming together, and Jesus is coming back soon!*
Don’t believe? Consider this:
*The Bible is the only book with 100% accurate Prophecy.* Many of these were written hundreds of years before they came to pass, and the Dead Sea Scrolls prove this.
*The Bible is real. Jesus is real.* Seek Him with a humble and open heart, and you’ll find Him!!
Jesus died on the cross and *shed His blood to pay the price for our sins.* He was buried and rose three days later (and was later taken up to heaven, but He left the Holy Spirit for us!). 🕊 *1 Corinthians 15*
If you *believe in your heart that God raised Jesus from the dead* and *confess with your mouth that He is Lord,* you will be saved. Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved! ❤️ *Romans 10*
God bless everyone here! 🕊
Thanks, Gregg!
34…. “Bullshitizing” 🤣 you two are cracking me up
Would like a video on thyroid and carnivore diet for older women
Definitely
Check out Elizabeth Bright. She talks all about women's hormones.
@kathrynsieloff7811 Check out Elizabeth Bright
The man was from Scotland and he ended up 183 pound eat your meat people and love it
27 min in….your cracking me up about brain running on glucose vs keytones! 🤣 you tell ‘em!!!!!
Think about it anything the government says you should do the opposite immediately
It does seem to be that way, but the catch is to at least go very low carb with this diet or instead of getting better you could get worse.
In EVERYTHING!
Totally agree.🤗
The Bible describes people living until 120 after the flood. It also talks about people living now 70 to 80 years because it talks about a generation being 70 years and if it is 80 it's full of woe, but I believe the 70 to 80 passage is actually talking about the generation being applied to The Nation of Israel. Sorry, I know that is going in a different direction, but just had to throw that out there, so I do believe we can and should be living until 120.
We certainly have a leg up when we understand the Word and the knowledge of science which confirms the Word. Gluttony is a very serious and grave matter in the Word. Most faith congregations won't even touch it. The Way is narrow and few find it.
A generation means the age when people have kids! For example, a generation these days is typically 25 years. If the bible says a generation was 70-80 years, that means that people were having kids in their seventies and living to be 120!
Watch Messiah 2030!!
Wow! 👏 I really enjoyed this! Great conversation. I'm glad to hear that carnivore helped your parents so much. Those are fantastic results! Do you think we should be drinking milk? Some say if you do you'll gain weight/fat.? 🤷♀️ IDK? Thanks so much.😊
Thank you so much! Milk is ok every now and then, but has enough carbs to raise your insulin and cause problems, so should be used sparingly
What about Heavy Cream ?
Use it in my coffee.
@@jiminsko9165 well the cream is better than the coffee anyway ;)
My brother died at 18 with epilepsy, he was diagnosed at 15.
My sister bacame scitophrinic at 17 has never recovered.
I became prediabetic with huge sugar swings.
I've been carnivore for 3years and feel great.
My father recently died with degenerative spine and late stage parkinson's.
I think my family has suffered because of ignorance of the proper human diet. I wish we knew.
Is there any studies about parkinson's and carnivore diet.
Parkinsons falls under the umbrella term dementia. Alzheimers, Huntingtons, and Parkinsons are all forms of dementia. So, anything you find resource wise on different types of dementia probably apply in at least some way to each other.
Genesis 6:3 (NKJV Strong's)
3 And the LORD said, "My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years."
Genesis 9:3 (NKJV Strong's)
3 Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. I have given you all things, even as the green herbs. 4 But you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood.
Nice
There’s a very interesting commentary on this verse in the RUclips videos Messiah 2030.
As I’m getting older 58 years old, I’m finding I sleep less, and always thought it was natural.
Another great video, thank you so much 😊
I’m making bacon & fried eggs as I listen to this video
My biggest fear growing older is dementia or altzheimers. As of this writing I am 53 years old. I'm seeing a lot of RUclips videos pointing at high cholesterol as a key driver of altzheimers. Yet at the same time they also say high grain diet also contributes to it. I'm not 100% carnivor but close. I do eat apples sometimes and occasional French fry. But the bulk of my diet is beef steaks, ground beef, pork sausage, bacon, and pasture raised eggs. My recent blood test was impressive to my doctor with the exception of my cholesterol. Total cholesterol was 240 and LDL is 138. My doctor is telling me to increase fiber, reduce fatty meat consumption and exercise more. I realize for legal reasons you can't tell me my doctor is wrong but are there studies or even anecdotal evidence that shows my cholesterol numbers are fine and fatty meat is my friend and it won't cause altzheimers?
I just watched a Sten Ekberg video on cholesterol. Instead of just looking at total numbers or just LDL or HDL, there are actually 7-9 markers to consider. View that and decide.
There are tons of great videos that will set your mind at ease on this topic (by Dr. Chaffee, Dr. Cywes, Judy Cho, Dr. Sarah Zaldivar, Dr. Ken Berry, Nina Teicholtz, and many other).
Also, statistically, in people over 60, the total cholesterol level that is correlated with highest longevity is 220, so I think any doctor who urges you to go below that should be sued for malpractice. Or at least given a stern talking to! 😠
Cholesterol is your friend. It is neuroprotective. It fulfills many vitally important functions in your body. If it's "high" (a totally arbitrary term that changes meaning every few years) it's because your body is using it to save some problem. It NEEDS to be high until the problem is solved. You don't put out fires by shooting all the firemen, right?
@@BradyWilson, hoping you saw these replies! Tons of info on this in the carnivore community.
Oh I'm sorry I meant to edit my comment and realized it was deleted did not mean to offend. I forwarded this video to my mom. I'm trying to get her to eat a higher fat diet. she was diagnosed with early stages of Alzheimer's disease and trying to help 🙏
"you don't know enough to know how wrong you are"
I've used that line. People read and believe anything said by their preferred influencers two sentence explanation of something that person read from their favorite influence, that saw a click bait title that they likely didn't even click. that's education for people today, adults included. learn to read research and think for yourself.
Absolutely. Everything is headlines these days, but you can't discuss complex issues in headlines
Angus Barbieri, from Scotland died, in 1990 at 51 years of age.....he fasted for 382 days when he was 27.
Thanks!
Great podcast
About the skin issue, if you're not eating protein your body should metabolize the skin to maintain protein stores. It makes sense that he would have no excess skin at the end of the fast.
Who is worse in terms of always trying to infiltrate the low carb communities? Would that be the ray peatophiles?
I’ve been doing regular keto & IF 3 1/2 years now and gotten off all 17 meds. I want to do carnivore keto. I actually tried it for a month but I was emitting a strong ammonia oder all over. I was told the liver metabolizes protein with ammonia as a byproduct. Suggestions? (Daily bathing doesn’t help)
Using photos of the Dr. Half naked makes it really difficult to pay attention to the presentation .
You mention Parkinson's right along with Dim/Alz, do you by chance have more information specifically on Parkinson's?
Parkinson's seems to benefit from keto as well because of lack of nutrition. That's the commonality here. If u have metabolic syndrome your Parkinson's will be worse. There is also an idea that Parkinson's might be autoimmune related because there seems to be a link between viruses and Parkinson's. So many people try automimmune diets like carnivore and some do get relief. My dad was a neurologist.
Dr. Chaffey could you please tell me whether your Dad ate his meat separate to taking his Parkinson’s medication? My Mum has been told her Madapar medication uses the same brain receptor as the uptake of protein from your diet and therefore she should cut down on protein. Im thinking to maximize both, just have the meat separate to the meds during the day.
I'm not sure about that specific medication because I don't treat Parkinson's medically, however yes my father is on medications and carnivore at the moment. I don't know if he's on that specific one though
Either way I don't think there's anytime we're an optimal biologically appropriate diet is going to be a bad idea, and it's never about idea to eliminate toxins from the alternative foods that would need to be eaten.
Dr. Chaffee, my parents and brother had narcissistic/psychopath disorder, l had reaction to them with other harm avoidence trauma behaviors, l need to go carnivore and l'm working on it, my parents now dead they were eating a diet that was feeding into their behavior, l think their brains were depleted just like mine has with wrong foods, l'm 45, lm still allowing arugula with my meat, and some sauce like ketchup and mild buffalo sauce, l got it from whole foods brand (ketchup), the buffalo is from Franks brand, lm still drinking tea, l really picked up on what you said about even a little bit of the wrong foods are causing enough damage to your brain, l just threw away natural sugar bag l used every now and then with tea, bacon helps me a lot, in India domestic violence is very bad and they do eat lots of plants, spices, carbs, rice, and l remember being Indian getting asthma and anger rage memories from complex ptsd and bad memories of being abused after eating indian food, in my early 20s, learning being lndian food wasn't working with me.
Genesis 6:3
KJV Bible
And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
Wow! 9 months or more! The longest I've done is 30 days.
Just stick with it, and go as pure as you can. It makes a huge difference, and eventually you won't want to stop. I definitely don't
Dr. Chaffee, how is your thyroid? I have a Chinese Facial Chart and it says that if the last third of your eyebrows are gone then there is a thyroid issue. I've noticed the same with Dr. Shawn Baker. Thanks
My thyroid is perfect, thanks for asking. That can be a sign of low thyroid, but when you see that the lateral portions are almost completely gone, or gone. Mine are the same as they have been since I was a kid, and might just not be showing up well on this video
@SG 5 5, I’ve noticed that about Shawn Baker too and wondered the same thing. And his voice is getting more gravelly.
@@annhughes9912
It seems to me that SB talks that way on purpose. It’s a very casual way of talking and is called voice fry.
Good chat gents… would be interested to hear Dr Chaffee’s take on what the Paleo Medicina group recommend which is essentially a strict ketovore. Only 400gr of food per day of which 85% is calories from animal fat for 70kg person. This ratio seems to maintain a good ketone level of about 2. They do seem to get awesome results but surely its not enough food over a long period ?
I should add that the remainder of the food consists of animal flesh, no dairy etc…
Is it intended for a long time, or do you just do it to treat an issue, and then go up to more food?
Excellent video like always so informative
This is brilliant but still lacks articulation in certain areas, though your communication skills are greatly improved. I can attempt to explain what I mean if you are interested. Your basic message could not be more important and deserves to be much more widely communicated. You are an inspiration!
I agree with (what I think) you are saying: the carnivore movement needs at least one great rhetorician.
Dr. Chaffee is so ridiculously busy that I can't see him making time to become that, but someone should.
I’m sharing this video with my neighbor. Thanks!
Thank you very much! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Is there a RANDOMIZED CONTROLLED TRIAL on carnivore and reversal of dementia?
Where can I find the accounts of Thomas Jeffersons interactions with the Native Americans, as well as the Ethiopians with the Persians? Thank you. God bless
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1) Is glycogen/blood glucose necessary for "anaerobic" exercise?
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2) It is said that all species have increased life expectancy under caloric restriction. True? Could this opinion be due to experiments that don't use the species' actual natural diet?
Ive got a video idea: explaing the different reasons why some people get problems on the carnivore diet and then stop it because they think its bad for them
Also do you think carnivore diet can help with adhd?
From what i gather if you keep the fat content high like in keto ratios then carnivore is even more effective than keto with ADHD
Dr georgia ede thinks so. She is a psychiatrist
Angus Barbierie, a Scottish man, fasted for a year!😀👍
Does autophagy and apoptosis still occur in a ketogenic state (versus a fasted state)?
Yes, it does.
Great video, I’ve been carnivore over a year, I feel my best at one meal a day, is this safe to do everyday?
I’ve heard of folks doing this for long term. Nothing in the literature that insists you eat more often.!Just eat when hungry/if only hungry once a day great! I was surprised when that happened to me and have enjoyed my 40 pound weight loss.
Hi Dr Chaffee, I'm into carnivore diet. My only problem is poop which is very hard to come out. How to solve this in carnivore diet. Please advise
Eat more fatty meat
Listen to the video again, he said eat more fat.
Dr. Chaffee my mother has had several mini strokes and I'm noticing she is forgetful in the short term for example she doesn't remember talking to me the previous day, so I am curious would a ketogenic diet help her ? She has changed her carb consumption and is off metformin for type 2 diabetes. Myself ketovore for almost 2 yrs.
How old is she? If she is more than 10 years after menopause, and didn't do estrogen therapy, she may have the beginnings of dementia. If that's the case, not much else u can do except make sure not diabetic and stick to keto diet. Ketones can help but lack of estrogen is a main cause of alzheimers
@@iss8504 yes she's 78 I believe she use to wear a little patch which maybe was estrogen, she was type 2 and she changed her diet and is off metformin but still needs to eat more ketogenic.
@@iss8504I’m 65, 10 years past menopause and never went on estrogen therapy. So, I’m at risk for Alzheimer’s? Or have it? What recourse do I have? I eat mostly meat and butter with an occasional potato, grape juice, and maple syrup. This is very disheartening news
I got sensored for talking about the pandenic .ha 😂😂😂😂.Supposed to have free .......... ha.
40:10 - 45:17
Curious about the man's muscle mass without protein for 9+ months.
What about Bruce Aymes triage theory of aging.. A theory but interesting. Doesn't carnivore mean we miss out on some micro nutrients.. No problem today but after a few decades that's when problems may arise
Are you related to Dave Chaffee? The professional arm wrestler?
Totally off topic I know, but I saw your name and I have to ask.
Not that I know of, but it's not a very common name, so probably if you go back far enough
The last name Chaffee comes from French "le chauve" meaning "the bald." You both must have had a bald ancestor.
What's your advice on dealing with strong cravings while transitioning to the carnivore diet?
Eat until you are stuffed, you wont want more of anything.
@@jksinorbit on carnivore you don’t have to eat until you’re stuffed, it’s called satiety
Bacon
@@shoshanafox727 YES BACON!
Thanks, I have trouble with this, too.
In the words of Sam Elliot..” beef it’s what’s for dinner”….
They found Japanese lied about their ages to keep getting state money or something so Okinawa wasn’t real state.
Oh really? I have heard that. Is there an article or anything discussing that which you know of? Would be interesting to see that
The articles may be hard to find because Google etc deletes everything…I am married to a doc and we are carnivores.
Dr Saul Newman: Debunking Blue Zones said Japan has shortest lifespan which seems right if you have visited.
The Worlds Oldest People May not be as Old as you Think by Isabel Whitcomb…Japan has illiteracy, violence, bad health issues…very few people own an auto.
Fraud and poor record keeping.
How do you deal with lack of sleep, feeling cold, and thirsty.
What about autism in its various levels? My husband is a functioning autistic and T2 diabetic. I've been able to get him on mostly keto and his sugar and weight has dramatically improved, but he has a hard time sustaining it for an extended period.
The GAPS protocol is best for that. You can do a carnivore version of it, if you prefer.
Eat meat! 🥩
Why doesn't Chaffee discuss full autophagy that happens on a 3 day fast? That is a benefit that doesn't happen merely by eliminating carbs.
The expert on fasting and autophagy is Dr Jason Fung.
41:00
Genesis 6:3 appears to say God limited us to 120 years.
What is his blood type?
A+
Great talk, but does this guy think that cars are a safer way to travel than horses? Car accidents are one of the leading causes of death....
Horse riders per capita are more likely to have a hospitalization from falling off than cars drivers from crashes.
well looks like I won't make 60
Carnivore diet is deficient in Vitamin C and if I'm not wrong, human body cant synthesize it on its own. Is it a good idea to throw in some fruits or vegetables to balance it off?
Urid acid by meat consumption gets metabolized into vit c.
Vit c is only important if youre eating carbs.
But with Beef you go straight to what you’re trying to get from VitC… Glutathione
Can someone please provide me with references to resources?
Napoleon cured scurvy in his troplops with horsemeat. Vit c requirements are much higher if u eat carbs because glucose and vit c compete for same receptors.
The Masai people in Africa eat meat and a lot of blood.........they seem to be healthy, not sure about lifespan
They live a lot longer than us, unless killed in an accident
@@anthonychaffeemd often wondered about that.........just out of interest.....I live in Mildura Victoria on the Murray River.....this is a grape growing region on the Murray River founded by William and Charles Chaffey in the 1800’s. They were from California....although the spelling is different. ....any connection?
Dr Berry has a good interview about cultural eating with a woman named Mary Ruddick.
Poor sleep is a symptom of circadian disruption due to hormonal dysfunction.
And what causes hormonal dysfunction?
@@itzakpoelzig330 The list is vast but here are a few:
High vegetable fat, low nutrient diets
Circadian rhythm disorders(excess blue light at night)
Vitamin D deficiency(lack of sunlight)
Lack of exercise
Endotoxins(poor gut health)
If animal fats don't cause high cholesterol, what does?
There's nothing wrong with high cholesterol. The main issue is ratio between HDL and LDL. High HDL is not a bad sign, high LDL on the other hand - is.
@@kingofwesteros9868 no, what is important is the ratio between HDL and triglycerides... But one of the beautiful things about the carnivore diet is you don't have to worry about it if your otherwise healthy and eating well
It seems people with high cholesterol live longer.
I can't wait to use this for my rhetoric class as examples of bad, baseless arguments. Also, on your Podcast version, you misspell affects as effects. I am appalled that you can mislead gullible people this way. How about Vitamin C? Does that come from pork or is it as deadly as other plants?
Thank you for raising awareness of a carnivore way of eating!
@@itzakpoelzig330
😂 Exactly!!! I’m sure there will be a few converts in her class!