History Of Freya - Vanir Goddess Of Asgard - God Of War Ragnarok Series
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
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Welcome to another God Of War video!
In todays 'History of' Instalment, I wanted to continue with our coverage of the norse pantheon og gods, and discuss a pivotal character to the 2018 instalment, the former valkyrie queen and ex wife of Odin, the Vanaheim goddess Freya!
To really talk about Freyas origins, we must first dive back In time to a place before the events of the 2018 game and the Aesir Vanir war.
As It helps shine a light on the character and really, It shows alot of reasoning as to why she Is the way she Is, and why she Is so incredibly protective of her son, Baldur
I cant lie this was a very hard episode to make, not because of its length but the tragedy of Freyas kind hearted character Is so painful to watch, we arent given full context as to what happened to Freya prior to the events of the 2018 game, so I hope this shines a light on a character that has honestly had It really really rough.
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I really like Freya a lot and hope she doesn't end up as evil and manipulative as Athena and she stays a good tragic character
I really feel like she'll end up being manipulated character and Odin takes advantage of her grief to try and hurt Atreus but she'll eventually turn on him because even if Kratos killed her son she would never wish that on anyone else and at the end of the day Atreus, using his Loki silver tongue, could convince her that Odin and the Aesir are their shared enemies.
I Don't think Athena was evil and manipulative she was pragmatic and manipulative. She realized that kratos was a mad dog. she tried to manipulate him for the good of mankind. But she couldn't prevent him from wiping out the world through deicide/patricide. In God of War 3 kratos went from tragic antihero to being vindictive anti-villain with redeeming qualities.
sadly she fights Kratos and Atreus still holding resentment and revenge for the death of Baldur
Me too
shes a god(dess) after all.
and its god of war after all.
the formula is already set
One of my favorite figures in Mythology and characters in gaming. Such a tragic and sympathetic character with clear flaws that make her even more interesting . I would love to have some kind of DLC that lets you play as her maybe at a point in her past or even going on an adventure with Atreus if the relationship is mended
Pp pp pp
They done fantastic job with Freya and relationship with her son. Ye she was a little overprotective and insane on that side, but still i liked her character allot, hope she doesn't die.
I wish they had a more incestuous subtext
A little overprotective and insane ? She cursed her son to a living hell to keep him from dying. A fate worse then death.
@@giganticomega6821 Considering baldur was also a god, he could not die of old age thus his inability to feel anything drove him insane
Like everyone on the God of War franchise there's tragedies that forms every character and Freya is one of them that suffers the most,she lost her people,her home,her family,and her identity that even if she thinks she's doing the right thing and has good motivations, but she's blinded by her own actions that bring horrible consequences that she can't see that her Son would never forget her and seeing Baldur's death is something that Freya what's nothing more than to see the Ghost of Sparta suffer since she lost her pride and joy,whatever happens in Ragnarok with Freya is that is going to be emotional.
I really like Freya a lot and hope she doesn't end up as evil and manipulative as Athena and she stays a good character because that'd ruin her character
@@subzero3158 Agree,we already got enough Evil Gods and having a good one is a well change of pace,all we can do is hope and pray that it's not to late for Freya.
Yeah I understand what freya going through but I just don't want her to go through the same shit like kratos had when he was in Greece because her vengeance will lead to nothing but pain and suffering. I hope she realize that baldur was far gone before kratos killed him, even if he was still alive he would still be coming after kratos and atreus and will eventually be killed either way.
@@genyatusamaki1219 Now that you mention it,your right,Baldur was going to be killed either way.
Turns out Atreus may have inherited at least some of Kratos strength. No way any normal young teenager his size can carry a 120+ lb deer in a raging snow storm with as much ease as he did and not even look remotely fazed by it has to show something.
Well considering that in the myths after Loki was imprisoned by Odin and tortured, he caused earthquakes whenever he flinched in pain from the snakes venom dripping into his eye... Yeah, Atreus is definitely gonna be strong like Kratos 👀
@@lilchaos9212 There is no way Loki is going to be as strong as Kratos. Kratos was always all about (and only about) strenght, Loki already displayed other abilities. Even in norse myth Loki is not about strenght. If anything Loki is going to end up a fast character with spells.
@@xxan84 im not saying that loki will be AS strong as Kratos but rather he will have strength LIKE Kratos. He won't be able to out strength Kratos but he has inherited strength like Kratos did from his Olympian Side and probably from his Jotun side. You can be strong and not focus on that strength
Freya likely put more then just a rune of protection on Kratos and Atreus and likely even more on Mimir after she revived him hence she is able to find them when she wants to so easily and learns so much about them by spying on them
Probably why she was able to immediately go to them after they get something from the serpent, good theory 👍🏼
That was really shady for her to do this to her son and refuse to break a spell. Baulder was suffering a fate worse than death.
That's the only thing I have against her. It was a wickedly selfish act.
But can you really blame her? If Baldur dies, Fimbulwinter is jumpstarted. It wasn't really selfish if you're literally preventing the end of the world by giving your son immortality.
@@chronic5577 she didn't do it to prevent ragnarok her reason was purley selfish to save her grief
@Jvion Wooden no she didn't she tryed to save her son she didn't care about ragnarok
@@chronic5577 but she doomed him to a hell without feeling, taste , touch , smell. Hell he can't even breathe.
I feel Freya was once on Odin's side against Ragnarok. I say this for two reasons, the Valkyries were created specifically to gather warriors for Ragnarok which means they were created after Odin learnt of Ragnarok. Also, for Freya to be made the Queen of the Valkyries she must have been supportive of Odin against Ragnarok. This is supported again when she says to Atreus that she truly wishes she didn't believe in Ragnarok. Maybe when Odin became too obsessed and extreme she distanced herself from him and eventually lost her faith and love for him.
Yeah true freya did love odin odin loved freya based on the tales of mimir its just odin became paranoid like he always does
Freya has been through a lot.😥She wanted to protect Baldur. He, in return, wanted her dead.
A very good breakdown and can't wait to see how this turns out.
I honestly wouldn't mind a DLC where we get to play as Freya
Good luck with that this is god of war
Ya that would be fun seeing as how she got cursed and can't harm anyone
YES
Freya's spell was powerful enough to effect Baldur who's 5D that she only her can make a cure for it which means she must be a powerhouse of a sorceress and hope we get to know more about her
@@subzero3158 it's not that it was powerful mistletoe wasn't part of the curse cause it was too young or something like that
People should send this to MK11 writers, it might help to get the old Sindel back for the next game.
She is in 11??
@@exspensivespeech588 Depends on your take?
She has just become one of my favorite Goddesses due to this video
she went Pamela Voorhees on Kratos in the next sequel
What surprises me, during freya's time on midgard she did not meet or once encounter kratos's wife. A jotunn who was in hiding. Meeting an exile Valkyrie Queen. And how do we know that Odin didn't know how to break Baldur curse? He could have done so at any time but just wanted to keep balder on leash
Maybe Odin do know how but don't want to do it so he lied? Remember Baldur death is one of the sign that Ragnarok has begun so Odin probably want to prolong Ragnarok as long as he could not realising of the possibility that Baldur immunity could've broken by accident.
Freya's magic was said to be on par with Odin and Mimir said he was able to able to put the curse on her because of her weaknesses and while she couldn't re move the course but she found loopholes in between.
Freya and her people were in war with Odin that they had to make truce via marriage and she cast a spell only the Jotoun kings could do.
I hope we get the chance to see Freya and fight her in ragnarok or in another god of war game
I really hope she's like Sigrun but more difficult than she is, I just wanna see Freya (after she got her Valkyrie wings back from Odin) have that vanir knowledge and what sigrun was but 3 times more difficult
Absolutely loving your History Of God of War characters... One of my favorite game series of all time. Subbed! Thought I was already =)
Okay I'm just now watching this story about Freya it's really amazing and crazy to believe that Freya was the queen and leader of the Valkyries and finding out she sacrificed yourself for a people in married Odin and got pregnant and had Boulder as her son all for her husband to betray her and do horrible and for her own son to hate her it's heartbreaking
Great analysis as always.
Freya May be the goddess of Wisdom But that doesn't mean she's Always Right
It will be interesting to see if she gets her wings back, maybe then she'll be a full power and can change into more than just a bird and probably has more magical powers.
Freya is on par with Odin when it comes to magic, Odin spent centuries fighting the Vanir and they had to make a truce via marriage.
Freya in the mythology was insanely proficient and knowledgeable in magic that Odin learnt spells from her.
Thanks mate for making this video Freya while important to the god of war 2018 game is SEVERELY underrated lore wise. As the best part of her lore is sadly only found out if you defeat the final Valkyrie
Boss fight gonna be brutal af
Seems to me she won't get past her hatred and vengeance towards Kratos until she can see her own fault in all of it. She and her son were irremovable. There was no trying to undersand the other's point of view. That level of stubbornness doesn't disappear easily.
You just made my Monday much much better😁❤️👍🏾
0:43 tears of Freya
Yayyy more videos. So nice to listen to this while I play from the original God of War going up to the new one
I understand the lore/history and what the GOW series is doing story-wise and all -- but man, I wish someone halfway intelligent would have sat down with Freya and actually talk with her about the situation. She needs to realize the entirety of what happened and the circumstances and events that led to the present. As a God, Freya should know better than anyone that universal laws of Life and Death/Creation and Destruction should not be tampered with. That cycle is necessary. Everyone and everything dies or ends at some point. That's 100% okay. Regardless of however she felt or how much she loved Balder, Balder will/would eventually die one day. As well she. However, by putting that enchantment/curse on Balder, she essentially tortured and tormented him for all of his days. Sure, he was immortal and invincible...however, in exchange, he could no longer feel, taste, or smell. That is no way to "live" if you could even call it that. I would say to Freya, that in her misguided attempt to protect the thing she loved by shielding him from all harm, she inadvertently killed him on that very day. Not only that, be she broke his mind and his soul in the process that would forever ruin him (in life, death, and the afterlife).
Kratos is FAR too forward, aggressive, and brutish to do this -- but perhaps Freya would have made it out somewhat okay if she was made to be aware of the fact that Balder was essentially already dead. Even if/when her enchantment was broken and he could feel again...Balder's mind and spirit were already so far twisted and broken that it wouldn't matter to him. He wouldn't be able to enjoy it. In fact, Balder would probably try to kill himself to be at peace. I do respect that Kratos gave Freya the chance/option to take responsibility for her actions by removing her enchantment and killing her son herself in a peaceful and non-painful way. She could have given her son respect by doing that. However, she declined that option every chance she got. And cowardly kept asking Baulder to kill her instead (ergo, permanently prolonging Balder's suffering).
i doubt anyone would have gotten through to her. her own son pleaded with her and begged her to remove it and told her what it was doing to her and how it was destroying him and she still didn't do it, she refused to see the truth. i think as long as he was alive she would always refuse to see it the truth.
These videos are amazingly informative. Thank you Sir.
Might be interesting to see one on the mid guard serpent, Mimir , Thor
Seems Odin feared freya the most
Freya's magic was said to be on par with Odin and Mimir said he was able to put the curse on her because of her weaknesses and while she couldn't re move the course but she found loopholes in between. Freya cast a spell only the Jotoun kings could do. Freya and her people were in war with Odin that they had to make truce via marriage.
people are sleeping on Freya may probably be more overpowered than even both Baldur and Thor put together but had to be stupidly nerfed.
You should talk about Odin’s farther Bor and Cul as well.
Where tf is the blade of Olympus
I believe she casts the spell on mimir when rezurecting him after the beheading, not before leaving asgard.
Gotta say, I'm really loving these HBTW god of war videos. Keep up the excellent content
Her look in the thumbnail, it’s so depressing. I can’t wait to see what happens!
The real tragedy is how her son had the cure to his suffering, and instead of keeping the arrow to always feel something or kill himself, he just wanted revenge on somebody that only crime was protecting them.
Kratos didn’t need to kill him, but I can understand, she did save his son, and he was forced to either let her die or stop her son, but honestly just tossing him miles away, trying to get her away, was a better idea, one punch, can send him flying so a throw can literally send him flying miles away.
he would never stop coming after her and she would let him kill her. is kratos suppose to stand watch over her forever? her crime is torturing her son for countless years not protecting him. how do so many of you get that wrong? what she did is a fate worse than death.
@@justarandompepe8961 no, all Kratos would need to do is leave him in another realm as a killable being, one that could knock out the world serpent, but still killable, honestly leaving him in a place he could fight powerful foes endlessly might actually get him off everybody’s backs, or kill him by damaging him so he cannot walk, and leaving him in another realm, where any creature could attack, Kratos tells Freya he left her son alive, but injured, and if she find out he died, she will be pissed at Kratos, but not blood thirsty.
As for her torturing him, that’s all on the him not feeling anything part, the only way of removing it is by removing the spell protecting her son that literally have a destiny that he will die, and cause the apocalypse, so I would say it’s not her fault, with how long she’s been alive, I’m sure she tried everything to make a new spell that could have the same protection, but allows her son to feel.
@@ginnungagapabyss5639
the only realms kratos had access to at this point where midgard, alpheim, helheim, muspelheim, and nifleheim. helhiem's cold would kill him now probably, muspelhiem is empty besides the trials, nifleheims mists would kill him, and alfhiem is basically empty after the war settled down after kratos intervened. there is no place to leave him and certainly nothing strong enough for him to fight and keep him occupied. certainly nothing close to on the level of the world serpent. breaking his legs probably wouldn't do much, he probably has some level of healing factor, if not it probably wont keep him down for long. there is also the fact that odin or someone from asgard can easily come and get him wherever he is. either way, its a temp solution and he will inevitably go after freya at some point and kill her. there is no avoiding that.
the prophecy was only "he will die a needless death" nothing else. it wasn't that his death with cause ragnarok or anything like that. she was just so scared by the fact that he had a death prophecy that she did this to prevent him from possibly dying. your literally saying that its not her fault that she tortured her son and made his life a living hell solely because he had a prophecy saying he will die. your fine with her torturing him if it means protecting him?
@@justarandompepe8961 Thor didn’t heal from his injury in the gut, so his brother will not be healing from 2 broken legs fast enough.
"I'm still a God. Go away" - Freya
Imagine kratos brother escaping the pits of tarturess and comes to get his revenge for the 2nd time . Why would he you ask ? Kratos said he’d never leave him again , how could demos even do that ? He’s a son of Zeus also , he was the boy of prophecy till Zeus tried to change it just like odins doing now . Seems like a repeating theme in these games . Gods tryna change prophecy’s only to aid in those prophecy’s
Is there any Theory that Kratos's daughter Caliope had the same sickness as Atreus but the Ambrosia cured her sickness even tho she never knew her Godhood?
No because at that point kratos was human still b4 it was later revealed he was a god
@@markelscott100 so godhood kicks in when you find out your father was Zeus?
@@ChanoCYBER9Avila no but at that point the story we still thought kratos was mortal in gow 1 i believe so i highly doubt the devs thought about the sickness being the false nature kratos mortality an calliope
@@markelscott100 yes at that point we thought he was a mortal who killed a God but based on what happened to atreus as it was revealed what Kratos thought it was a sickness turned out that he never told his son that he was a God as well even states he was born a God. If they recycle that and retcon chains of Olympus Calliope could be this version of Hel/Hella or something since Kratos in gow3 literally messed up the underworld
@@ChanoCYBER9Avila yea but the problem with that theory is the fact later kratos went on a quest to find a cure callope when he climbed a mountain and killed something deemed impossible so i highly doubt that's the same sickness
Can’t freya just resurrect her son just like she did to mimir when his head chopped off
"There are no "good" gods Boy, thought I taught you that" -Kratos
I think the point this game is trying to make is that the connection between god and humanity is very relevant. Both the Titans and Olympians also had a prophecy of their end, and they refused to take responsibility for their mortality. Kratos had to go through pain and tremendous loss to even get a hint that his humanity is more important than his godliness.
Freyja, though maybe unintentional, made the same mistake of trying to defy her son's mortality, thus stripping him of his humanity.
1st comment. My name is Thor (true story) love these videos. Keep up the good work
Freya looks like she hasn't slept in WEEKS in that thumbnail...
Will you do Tyr next?
I hope so🤞🏾
i feel like Freya is linked to Circe from Odysseus.. because both lived with pigs and both are witches. and especially the Dialog that freya had when they ask her where the injured pig comes from. which might prove the point that she used dowels to turn people into pigs.
YES. Like #7
Poor Freya...
Just finished my 2nd playthrough today. Freya helping Kratos & Atreus, not knowing those actions would take what's precious to her is heartbreaking.
I think her admiration for Atreus will snap her out of her revenge quest at some point
I hit the ancient histories like a ballistic missile and im satisfied with these findings. As much of a timeline as presents itself with the resources at hand. Neith, Khmet and egypt bow and arrow, but also responsible for spinning yarn to cloth.
Athena, patron of Athens, spear, shield, trade, spinning, war, wisdom, handicrafts and household works.
Has to shift to the frigid shit hole of the north where this all kicks off, gets told to get lost and becomes essentially the first witch. Ends up in Scotland and Ireland where she gets denoted Brigit. Unclear as to whether Brigit is a title or not, but its a very important character to the area. Also shows up in india as saraswati, Lakshmi and even though she looks scary i also posit Kali.
Last I'll enter is Mama Uqllu where she's said to be very independent, the goddess of fertility, farming and cloth.
I looked in china and japan, but i came up short.
Boss babe is all over the show. I would like to eventually see some effort done on the similarities of the so called """""""""""GODS""""""""""" if they must be called that. Thing that sticks out the most is its only the Judaic/Abrahamic cults who really really want you to ignore the other """""""""""""""GODS""""""""""""""""".
Otherwise besides that i also pick up on an interesting duality in characteristics that could only be described as schizophrenic. A better option is that the histories have been blended and historians are picking and choosing what they want for different situations. Athena/Lakshmi put a lot of work into making mans currency and teaching the value of discord.
Then i look around at the Jewish and Christian cults and all i see is plagiarism.
Athena/Freyr/lakshmi/Brigit is best girl.
freya could have just made him be able to keep coming back if he die
i honestly think freya wanted to be killed by baldur so that she could get back her warrior spirit or whatever
Freya's magic was said to be on par with Odin and Mimir said he was able to put the curse on her because of her weaknesses and while she couldn't re move the course but she was able to find loopholes in between and both Freya and her people were in war with Odin that they had to make truce via marriage.
LMAO Freya threatening Kratos.
Me: bring it bitch, I’m a God Killer 🔥🔥 😂
I love Mythology from all cultures and one of my favorites is Norse mythology. I named my cat after her🤣
Freya along with Mimir pointed out how not knowing his heritage was physically hurting Atreus - is there any evidence this affected Kratos in his younger days?
freya going to make sigrun look like a joke
I wish the Norse saga was a trilogy
Am I the only one who wants to see Freya and kratos fall in love??? I
Think about this you know the hardest boss in this game the one on like every impossible bosses video yeah she only took the head valkyrie job because she was forced to because of feya basically she was Faye's starscream that being said and the reality defining magic she'll be more op then sigurd
Kratos will probably have to body her too along with the rest of the gods.
Freya died by Surtur in Ragnarok in norse mythology
@@grandcanyon-fu9zt eh not sure thats cannon tho
I'm really surprised we didn't get any type of DLC for GOW
Yeaa, there never was dlc for god of war series except ascension but that was multiplayer wise
Why would you add more things to something thats already perfect
i like the old ways of not cutting things out for DLC they held too
Gna was hard, but Sigrun was harder. Imagine if Freya wasn't plot driven and held back because of Atreus.
Does the story of freya sleeping with four dwarves for a necklace exist in this timeline? Because why does odin hate her so much?
Plot twist we get to play as Freya 😮😮😮
I really cannot see that happening in GoWR
After Ragnarok, I have a strong feeling, she’s gonna end up with Kratos and have his baby. Also, I really hope it does happen.
Frets has suffered so much like Kratos they can relate
Then can freya cast it on herself to make her fight against kratos easy? Or why didn’t Odin make her do it to him?
I know in RL everything just swore not to hurt him because they loved him. Which no one would do to Odin. But in game?
1:25 so your telling me Freya gave Baldur covid 19 😂😂
I love god of war but killing off all the gods is just damn crazy 😑
I love Freya Fr
GOW4 is awfully hockey
But I do like the idea you shared where Kratos's becomes an average father as Freya becomes a complete monster lost to the point of no coming back.
Gow4 is a sport? What do you mean
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(In GOOFY voice) didn't know we're playing football.
@@aidenparker5955 ( in a even more goofy voice) I thought we were playing hockey
@@Bigwaluigi2 (Same goofy voice)I thought we were playing in tennis court
@@aidenparker5955 ( same goofy voice) I thought we were playing baseball
I can't wait to watch this game.
Please do zeus next
He went to war with uncle and walked away.
Freya being a Goddess should know what Kratos was all about. She should had took the liberty of controlling Baldur herself. Or respecting his wishes and let him become a mortal. Baldur came knocking on Kratos door lookin for a fight? Not the other way of around.....she needs to be hike up her big girl panties and own up to her responsibility for Baldur actions. Despite her fighting spirit? Kratos slayed a pantheon of God's......she keeps coming at Kratos? Kratos will have a definite reason for killing her soon enough. The blades of chaos quite thirsty for aseir blood.
Freya and her people were in war with Odin that they had to make truce via marriage and her magic was said to be on par with Odin and Mimir said he was able to put the curse on her because of her weaknesses and while she couldn't re move the course but she found loopholes in between. Freya is also the goddess of love,compassion,birth,magic,war and death.
Freya might not be as powerful as Kratos but she's not a weak.
do you even know how bloody OP Freya is ? Freya was so proficient and knowledgeable in magic that Odin learnt spells from her, both said to be equal
If Kratos does I think it's fitting that Freya be the one to kill him . It would be poetic considering what he did to her son
She was the cause of baldur becoming so crazy. And her son attacked and tried to kill kratos time and again when kratos never wanted to fight him. Kidnapped kratos son. And was even going to kill kratos son at one point ( A CHiLD ). Not to mention he was loyal to odin. Kratos had every right to kill him honestly. If not for the other reasons then for the mere fact he tried to kill his son.
I wanna see freya as a boss in valkirie form or sum cool like dat😂😂
Who do you think will be the final boss of GoW Ragnarok? Odin, Surtur, or Fraya?
History of the World Serpent video?
What if Loki/Atreus dies in the sequel and Ragnarok is stopped. would tht make you play Kratos again. i mean in the story sense It makes sense for kratos TO JUST STOP forawhile without killing.
I dunno i always feel the story of Kratos is made just to make sense.. but what this full gameplay is made for is just Blind beautiful carnage of Hack and slash. It is same with Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal ~
HBTW is RUclips's Mimir
Freya is also the goddess of death
This is a very far fetch idea but what if Kratos obtained the Odin force
Okay first off I hate when people compare games with actual gods. Second of all Freya was not married to Odin. It was friggin that's married to Odin. They are totally different goddesses but they had the same abilities and powers and all that. So they're definitely a different goddess. Everybody needs start getting them right because that just makes you look stupid. Also quit comparing video games with God's. Because a lot of it is not true
Narrator kinda sounds like the head in GOW
I hope she don’t die I like her
goodess of Beauty and War.
13:36😏
So Loki doesn't exist in the God of War universe? In the story about the Giants stealing Thor's hammer, it is Loki and not Odin who follows Thor to Jotunheim.
Then what is the origin of Fenris, Hel and the Midgard Serpent?
Midgard serpent is from the future, and hel and fenrir i don’t think they exist yet.
You clearly haven't played the game at all
Waiting for Tyr's history!!!!
The Vanyir clearly aren’t all that capable if they got massacred to where Freya is the only in game Vanyir left
Freya's magic was said to be on par with Odin and Mimir said he was able to put the curse on her because of her weaknesses and while she couldn't re move the course but she found loopholes in between and both Freya and her people were in war with Odin that they had to make truce via marriage.
Freya performed a spell only the Jotouns kings could...
Freya must have been a powerhouse of a sorceress but stupidly nerfed.
@@subzero3158 compassion is not a weakness
Odin spent centuries fighting them because Freya carried them
Freya is on par with Odin when it comes to magic and they stopped by truce via marriage.
Freya in the mythology was insanely proficient and knowledgeable in magic that Odin learnt spells from her
Damn everybody wants Freya
What if onaga was real ?
I got a feeling Kratos will die and I standby my theory thor will kill him .
I am a cat... heey
The lesson here is don't kill your parents for giving immortality
What if shinnok was real ?
I have a supeeerrrrrrrr huge stretch of a theory, it seems absolutely impossible to happen but i'll put it out there anyways. So Freya needs her Valkyrie wings in order to fight yeah? Well I was thinking that what if freya searched in hell, saw baldur on the other side of the bridge of the damned which lead her to the hel eagle. Freya takes eagles wings and powers and becomes hela
let's say Kratos kills Thor, who Kills jormungandr?
Jorm dies but dies from old age I think
Jormungandr killed Thor in true Norse mythology with "Eitr", his venom.
I have a very very strong feeling Kratos would kill Thor in the same way, since when we first meet Jormungandr in GoW4, there's a little tab that pops up at the top of the screen that says "Eitr Imbued". What other reason did the devs decide to put that there in the game other than implying that Kratos is the one that will kill Thor?