Does a PSA 10.5 upper, 80% lower, holosun 503 with utg t1 riser, surefire g2x, ALG trigger, kak brace, spikes fake can and a diy sling count as a mk18 build?
@@Highway9mm lol l got two PSA 10.5 shorties and love them they are my street rats. Take the KaK brace off and put a SB4 brace and you'll be golden. Sounds like a good build.
I'm a big fan of a true mk18 build and any mk18 build is fun and it makes you happy and at the end of the day a good mk type anything brings happiness 😊
the MK18 refers to a 10.3in barreled upper receiver/w rail system (daniel defense, knights) optics, buis and accessories(lights, lasers, ect) are swappable so aren't really as important as people think. the lower can range from colt to fn. stocks are also usually swappable for preference or availability, hell I've seen guys run the a2 stocks. people get too hung up on the sop-mod charts and forget that it is mostly just a guide. units regularly buy accessories outside of the sop-mod chart (i.e. MAWL, angled foregrips, magnifiers ect...).
People wanna clone mk18 and that is fine. They just gotta realize that all the accessories that they ran the mk18s with were what was good enough in 2000 up until the biggest pullout in history. Honestly, it doesn't matter what you put on them as long as it makes sense and you train with them.
These rifles are so much more interesting than the stock option vanilla shit you see everywhere. Build it for your needs. Not someone else's needs from 10 years ago.
Doesn't Aero own BA ? I have two Mk18'ish builds one a Spikes complete lower,BCG,BA complete upper,Troy quad rail , and Magpul furniture . My 11.5" is almost all Aero with a BA barrel , Magpul sl handguard and furniture . Both with Streamlight Protac , Streamlight pp , Cloud defense pp mounts , Arisaka handstops , DD fixed rear buis , & Aimpoint PRO on both . Love both & will suppress one eventually . Just got my G45 slide with Holosun 509t cut & mounted by Jagerwerks so I've been putting a bunch of time in that set-up as of late . Love the Holosun 509t closed emitter & G45 combo 350 rounds in
Any operator would tell you that a rifle setup is for the utilizer. If the setup makes sense and is comfortable to you, it’s a “good” setup. Running the “usual” ish a SEAL runs on a MK18 isn’t necessarily the “right” setup. It’s what that dude is used to, and comfortable with. If you’re comfortable with the weapon chances are your accuracy will show so.
It’s one thing to “CLAIM” total MK18 and try to fake the funk but that’s not what these guys are doing. They are simply showing what and how they are running there MK18ish set ups. Good video.
I notice 3 styles of AR looks. 1. All smooth Vador black 2. the sporty style racing color design, and the rugged rough ryder style (for some reason it reminds me of Star Wars movie). I like them all but these are some nice looking rough ryders.
I think you need to add a can opener a cell phone charger and a tampon dispenser then you guys would really be rockin o wait you also need your Starbucks drink holder wtf guys those are jokes
I use tampons to clean out my shotgun barrels. No joke. They work. So next time your girlfriend sends you to the store for tampons, pick up a box for yourself.
Another great video. Keep them coming. I bought my LAW folder about 5ish or more years ago and really had to search to find anything about them i.e. reviews and such any where but the LAW website. People I shot with said they could not see the point if you could not shoot with it folded. Glad to see the concept took hold I think they are great and sure make your carbine or pistol easy to pack
My m4 and soon to be m4a1 clones won't be true by the book clones either. They are both on PSA parts and the only difference would be the barrels. M4 has a socom barrel and the m4a1 will have the DD CHF barrel. They both are 14.5 and can use suppressors.
If you're trying to be a 'cloner' then arguably you'd want more 'authentic' parts. If you just want something that looks about the same and performs about the same, it's wide open. At this point it's probably easier to just SBR one vs fiddle with a 'pistol' and then be limited on forward accessories.
With that being said, “don’t get hung up that your barrel has to be a 14.5 or 13.9 pinned and wielded and that it’ll do what it’s supposed to do at 200…” you guys should be the first to display a human upper body ballistic dummy with organs and skeletal system used as a target to show what a short 10.3 or 10.5 will still do with 5.56/.223 penetrating human flesh and skull since everyone despise of these short barrels😏. But none of this matters because if you don’t get training you’ll suck and die😂. Don’t quote me on this but I believe those were the words of GT😅🤣🤣. Correct me if I’m wrong😅.
Spikes upper and lower, Fail zero bolt carrier, radian charging handle, Milspec parts and buffer, SP4 brace, Trex arms sling, Rosco bloodline 10.5 barrel, Aero gas block, Midwest industry’s quad rail, stream light protac light, is that a decent “Mock18”?
Nice setups ! I have a similar setup, for most people, the mk18 is more advantageous to use! Most people will never see a shot , longer than the max effective range of the mk18! To the cloners shut up ! None of you have a perfect clone! You don’t have a danger switch on yours! You have to have a 3rd pin! Also most of you have never served in the military!
12.5-10.5 classics are 👑 however long kak over A2 w/10.5🤣unless it’s PDW) 🎨irons |_^_|, multi layer WHT base color to preference(Y/O,Y/G) white dot the post n fill bottom half of RS⭕️ finish matte sealer,zip n tape 🔦,get quality double heat shield handguards over rails 🔥can’t shoot what ya can’t hold 🤣,550 paracord mounts and a sling 🙅🏾♂️, diy silicone gas buster if it’s 💨👀,keep 55 SPs in these shortys for defensive and tape coordinate just a simple mag change for barriers hard targets etc
It's honestly (besides basically everything making it what it is) not that expensive lol. Love the accessories, they're a must. So yeah its kinda expensive.
Is it a MK18 if its a piston gun? I'm asking because I have what would be a Block II LWRC Sig Sauer combo that is bomb proof that I was wondering how one would classify it. It doesn't matter but its fun.
How did you just gloss right over that *full power Peq* in the beginning as if it were no big deal?? Man I’d love to have that setup, along with the rest of the pricey bits.....
Badass rigs, this is the second video I've seen of yours and had to sub. Keep up the good work. I heard you guys hunt with these rigs, do you have any videos on it? Would love to see em in action. God bless from ole Carolina.
I've been wanting to do a piston upgrade on my 10.3 .625 BA Hanson performance barrel, however the BA website specifically says: "Hanson barrels are not designed to work with aftermarket piston kits" please tell me you know of some solution/work around for this issue?
@@TATargets I did some internet searching and found an individual with a similar situation that already reached out to BA. Their response was the same as is listed on their website. Regardless the response is appreciated.
@@TATargets not saying you can't do it, my point is its just more humane to use more energy, are you triple tapping the deer like targets at the range? I doubt it...
@@jackonsline8406 we do whatever it takes and yes, at times we’d send 2-3 subsonic rounds at a deer to confirm good hits. Benefit of an AR platform is you can do that
Back in the day you shot .300 blk? Lol what? You mean way back in 2016-2018.. first guys gun was sweet.. kinda, you dropped all that money but cheaped out on the barrel and BCG? That makes no sense. Then the second guys gun was just goofy looking. How do you take a Giessele built gun and make it weird looking? Massive .30 cal can on a little 556 mk18… this is why you got gas problems. You took out the Giessele bomb proof gas block and tube for a piston? Because it was gassy? Gassy due to you not using the correct can… I thought I had ta targets blocked on my RUclips account. These guys were trying to peddle the over priced Eotech gen 2 nods this year. You know the nods that have gen 2 photonis crap selling for $13,000 which defeats the purpose of photonis. People are stupid, everyone wants the photonis tubes to be just as good as the real L3 filmless that now photonis thinks they can sell them for L3 pricing… good job everyone
I'm not a true cloner. You guys just have low standards, lol. Its gotta at least have the Daniel rail and be a 10.5 or 10.3 barrel. Don't really care about brands etc.
Paul why the F is your rear sight so far forward???????? If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it must be a fuckin Duck!!!!! the other rifle is not a Mk18 it would be classified as the URGI come on guys.
Why is everybody always talking about "cloners" getting mad.. bro the mysterious army of cloners no ones ever seen isn't going to criticize your aero 10.3 with a ris 2. Like the videos got 100 comments, even if one clown says something about clone mk18's why do ya'll have to defend yourselfs so much for one comment.
Clone commandos inbound
Popcorn is ready
Does a PSA 10.5 upper, 80% lower, holosun 503 with utg t1 riser, surefire g2x, ALG trigger, kak brace, spikes fake can and a diy sling count as a mk18 build?
@@Highway9mm no but is is bad ass on a budget. I approve!
@@noncompliant209cali thanks. I guess we can consider it a mock18 build lol
@@Highway9mm lol l got two PSA 10.5 shorties and love them they are my street rats. Take the KaK brace off and put a SB4 brace and you'll be golden. Sounds like a good build.
You had me at MK18ish! 😍
Glad to have you! 😈😈😈
Not every short AR is a MK18 but doesn't mean it's not badass!
First guy "it's really not that expensive except for all the expensive stuff on it"
I'm a big fan of a true mk18 build and any mk18 build is fun and it makes you happy and at the end of the day a good mk type anything brings happiness 😊
Hate I watched your video…Only because I am sooooo jealous of you guys setup lol thanks
For taking the time for the video i loved it.
the MK18 refers to a 10.3in barreled upper receiver/w rail system (daniel defense, knights) optics, buis and accessories(lights, lasers, ect) are swappable so aren't really as important as people think. the lower can range from colt to fn. stocks are also usually swappable for preference or availability, hell I've seen guys run the a2 stocks. people get too hung up on the sop-mod charts and forget that it is mostly just a guide. units regularly buy accessories outside of the sop-mod chart (i.e. MAWL, angled foregrips, magnifiers ect...).
People wanna clone mk18 and that is fine. They just gotta realize that all the accessories that they ran the mk18s with were what was good enough in 2000 up until the biggest pullout in history.
Honestly, it doesn't matter what you put on them as long as it makes sense and you train with them.
The original MK18's made by LMT were actually 10.5.
These rifles are so much more interesting than the stock option vanilla shit you see everywhere. Build it for your needs. Not someone else's needs from 10 years ago.
This channel is golden, thanks for uploading
Doesn't Aero own BA ? I have two Mk18'ish builds one a Spikes complete lower,BCG,BA complete upper,Troy quad rail , and Magpul furniture . My 11.5" is almost all Aero with a BA barrel , Magpul sl handguard and furniture . Both with Streamlight Protac , Streamlight pp , Cloud defense pp mounts , Arisaka handstops , DD fixed rear buis , & Aimpoint PRO on both . Love both & will suppress one eventually . Just got my G45 slide with Holosun 509t cut & mounted by Jagerwerks so I've been putting a bunch of time in that set-up as of late . Love the Holosun 509t closed emitter & G45 combo 350 rounds in
Any operator would tell you that a rifle setup is for the utilizer. If the setup makes sense and is comfortable to you, it’s a “good” setup. Running the “usual” ish a SEAL runs on a MK18 isn’t necessarily the “right” setup. It’s what that dude is used to, and comfortable with. If you’re comfortable with the weapon chances are your accuracy will show so.
+100,000 points for the piston upgrade
Great video guys 🤙🏻
Ultra sick guns
Super dope set ups guys!!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
“Super simple” after naming off 53 different accessories. I like it doe. Lml
Love the builds guys!
I don't care what MK18 Trolls say, these are two of the best-looking MK18s I've ever seen. Great content, guys.
It’s one thing to “CLAIM” total MK18 and try to fake the funk but that’s not what these guys are doing. They are simply showing what and how they are running there MK18ish set ups. Good video.
I notice 3 styles of AR looks. 1. All smooth Vador black 2. the sporty style racing color design, and the rugged rough ryder style (for some reason it reminds me of Star Wars movie). I like them all but these are some nice looking rough ryders.
I like to just have one of each lol
Great video. Subscribed.
Nice builds.
Love these builds. Fantastic builds. Im not good at building. So i just buy full guns and add parts to them.
Ok
Someone with a piston build out there
I like it
Nice build
I looked at those rifles and said, "Oh, these guys are brothers."
Those are some amazing guns. I now want one!!!!
Solid runners for sure
Clone or not, they're great looking rifles!
I think you need to add a can opener a cell phone charger and a tampon dispenser then you guys would really be rockin o wait you also need your Starbucks drink holder wtf guys those are jokes
I use tampons to clean out my shotgun barrels. No joke. They work. So next time your girlfriend sends you to the store for tampons, pick up a box for yourself.
Is that second rifle FDE or Coyote Cerakote? Thanks a bunch. Great vids.
Another great video. Keep them coming. I bought my LAW folder about 5ish or more years ago and really had to search to find anything about them i.e. reviews and such any where but the LAW website. People I shot with said they could not see the point if you could not shoot with it folded. Glad to see the concept took hold I think they are great and sure make your carbine or pistol easy to pack
I saw the thumbnail and go hey that black iron gunners rifle let’s watch it 😂
hahaha it's an iconic rifle for sure.
My m4 and soon to be m4a1 clones won't be true by the book clones either. They are both on PSA parts and the only difference would be the barrels. M4 has a socom barrel and the m4a1 will have the DD CHF barrel. They both are 14.5 and can use suppressors.
Love the vid, I like you both 😂
haha thanks. We like you too.
Glad I found this video cause I’m planning on doing the same build
If you're trying to be a 'cloner' then arguably you'd want more 'authentic' parts. If you just want something that looks about the same and performs about the same, it's wide open.
At this point it's probably easier to just SBR one vs fiddle with a 'pistol' and then be limited on forward accessories.
“Humans in the ground”. 🤙
With that being said, “don’t get hung up that your barrel has to be a 14.5 or 13.9 pinned and wielded and that it’ll do what it’s supposed to do at 200…” you guys should be the first to display a human upper body ballistic dummy with organs and skeletal system used as a target to show what a short 10.3 or 10.5 will still do with 5.56/.223 penetrating human flesh and skull since everyone despise of these short barrels😏. But none of this matters because if you don’t get training you’ll suck and die😂. Don’t quote me on this but I believe those were the words of GT😅🤣🤣. Correct me if I’m wrong😅.
Spikes upper and lower, Fail zero bolt carrier, radian charging handle, Milspec parts and buffer, SP4 brace, Trex arms sling, Rosco bloodline 10.5 barrel, Aero gas block, Midwest industry’s quad rail, stream light protac light, is that a decent “Mock18”?
Ah yes, enthusiast who don't take the culture too seriously. My kind of people.
Nice setups ! I have a similar setup, for most people, the mk18 is more advantageous to use! Most people will never see a shot , longer than the max effective range of the mk18! To the cloners shut up ! None of you have a perfect clone! You don’t have a danger switch on yours! You have to have a 3rd pin! Also most of you have never served in the military!
Exactly
12.5-10.5 classics are 👑 however long kak over A2 w/10.5🤣unless it’s PDW) 🎨irons |_^_|, multi layer WHT base color to preference(Y/O,Y/G) white dot the post n fill bottom half of RS⭕️ finish matte sealer,zip n tape 🔦,get quality double heat shield handguards over rails 🔥can’t shoot what ya can’t hold 🤣,550 paracord mounts and a sling 🙅🏾♂️, diy silicone gas buster if it’s 💨👀,keep 55 SPs in these shortys for defensive and tape coordinate just a simple mag change for barriers hard targets etc
MK18 is the way to go!!!!!!!!!
It's honestly (besides basically everything making it what it is) not that expensive lol. Love the accessories, they're a must. So yeah its kinda expensive.
Is it a MK18 if its a piston gun? I'm asking because I have what would be a Block II LWRC Sig Sauer combo that is bomb proof that I was wondering how one would classify it. It doesn't matter but its fun.
Did you have a iwi zion 12 inch in your last video? If so would you recommend? Thanks!
I think there is a time and place for clone correct..... Where, I don't really know!? Build em and run em! Cool AR builds Bois!
Thanks for watching!!
You had me at 10.5
Welcome. You’ve been trolled.
The Geissele is a nicer gun but it’s weird the other gun looks so much better.
@Multicam Cossack nah on what? The looks or the Geissele being a better gun?
How did you just gloss right over that *full power Peq* in the beginning as if it were no big deal?? Man I’d love to have that setup, along with the rest of the pricey bits.....
I just like looking at everyone's build...even if they are just dressin up a stock rifle with optics and such.
Short and sweet like the video.
Badass rigs, this is the second video I've seen of yours and had to sub. Keep up the good work. I heard you guys hunt with these rigs, do you have any videos on it? Would love to see em in action. God bless from ole Carolina.
Not much footage hunting although that’s part of Site B and our new progression. We’ll be filming more nightvision stuff, including hunting, soon…
@@TATargets sounds good brotha. Keep up the good work.
I've been wanting to do a piston upgrade on my 10.3
.625 BA Hanson performance barrel, however the BA website specifically says: "Hanson barrels are not designed to work with aftermarket piston kits" please tell me you know of some solution/work around for this issue?
I don't know the specifics of that barrel but I'd bet BA would explain. Could be gas port size, OD, not sure.
@@TATargets I did some internet searching and found an individual with a similar situation that already reached out to BA. Their response was the same as is listed on their website. Regardless the response is appreciated.
HA! Jokes on you. I like you AND Paul!!
Hahaha thanks 👊👊👊
You guys are going to cause me to go broke! Love the content! Keep it coming guys!
Looking for a 12.5 or 13.5, my 16 inch to heavy...
IWI Zion 15 is a solid option.
"Get stronger lol"
I really like that urgi
bUt 556 iS uSeLeSs oUt oF a 10.3 bArReL pAsT 50 yArDs
That's how I built my mk18, the sob gets the job done.
Looks like the mk18 backup iron site only has a rear site.
How did you manage the front site?
Its always better to have more power hunting. Never hunt deer 🦌 with a 10.3.
So I guess all the deer we’ve put in the dirt with short 556’s didn’t happen? 🤣
@@TATargets not saying you can't do it, my point is its just more humane to use more energy, are you triple tapping the deer like targets at the range? I doubt it...
@@jackonsline8406 we do whatever it takes and yes, at times we’d send 2-3 subsonic rounds at a deer to confirm good hits. Benefit of an AR platform is you can do that
@@TATargets who uses subsonic 5.56 in general, let alone to hunt? Might as well just use a .22, you guys are hilarious.
Subsonic 300 BLK. All the time. Every season we do this. Don’t be goofy.
Dope!
I’m appalled lol jk I love all firearms so who gives a shit about cloning, if you love it I like it plain and simple good video guys
Love em
Spending more money to be so-called clone correct over proper training and making sure it goes bang when you need it to.
Training is the big win
Both gun are super bad ass, plan to build one myself but parts are so expensive and hard to find
TREX ARMS SLING!! I have like 6 of them now, best bang for the buck!!
Lots of people are rocking those for sure.
I'd never use a NFA weapon for home defense
MK18ish lol. Have 2 myself.
Yay💪💪🇺🇸🇺🇸❤❤
Thanks for watching!
Back in the day you shot .300 blk? Lol what? You mean way back in 2016-2018.. first guys gun was sweet.. kinda, you dropped all that money but cheaped out on the barrel and BCG? That makes no sense. Then the second guys gun was just goofy looking. How do you take a Giessele built gun and make it weird looking? Massive .30 cal can on a little 556 mk18… this is why you got gas problems. You took out the Giessele bomb proof gas block and tube for a piston? Because it was gassy? Gassy due to you not using the correct can… I thought I had ta targets blocked on my RUclips account. These guys were trying to peddle the over priced Eotech gen 2 nods this year. You know the nods that have gen 2 photonis crap selling for $13,000 which defeats the purpose of photonis. People are stupid, everyone wants the photonis tubes to be just as good as the real L3 filmless that now photonis thinks they can sell them for L3 pricing… good job everyone
I'm not a true cloner. You guys just have low standards, lol. Its gotta at least have the Daniel rail and be a 10.5 or 10.3 barrel. Don't really care about brands etc.
This is America. Our 12.5’s can be MK18’s if we decide to call them that 💅
@@TATargets Well it offends me.
Might want to take a break from the internet 😉
@@TATargets ok. fine.
Paul why the F is your rear sight so far forward???????? If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it must be a fuckin Duck!!!!! the other rifle is not a Mk18 it would be classified as the URGI come on guys.
Mk18 is a mk18 is a mk18 God this is getting really dumb! It's a child's argument seriously!
Why is everybody always talking about "cloners" getting mad.. bro the mysterious army of cloners no ones ever seen isn't going to criticize your aero 10.3 with a ris 2. Like the videos got 100 comments, even if one clown says something about clone mk18's why do ya'll have to defend yourselfs so much for one comment.
I know, right?! No one cares if they are not 100% correct.