@@xdelisiusx That is not the case. I have it fully zoomed out from what the settings allow. They have broken addons that zoom it out more quite some time ago. Also, the nameplate castbar is quite high up and you need to zoom out to see it. Otherwise you need to ironically rely on addons to alert you. This is fully their fault. 😂
@@NemXX2 I mean there's a very clear casting animation for the spittle (which you won't be interrupting anyways), same for the heal. That being said, the "stage" in the back of the room irritated me to no end when it put an egg up there and then you can't see the ground effect for the smash.
I think the fight was perfectly reasonable when I did it on my ele shaman and spriest. Having RNG aspects doesn't instantly make everything bad or unfair. It keeps you on alert and forces you to use your abilities more wisely. If they made it even slightly easier I think it'd become a joke, which would make it an even more worthless piece of content as the rewards are already nonexistent.
Yes, you thought the fight was very reasonable on your ranged dps classes where you don’t have to drag zek’vir on top of the adds to kill the adds and praying that he doesn’t decide to fear because dodging the fear means not killing the add. I was fortunate enough to do this on dk where I could at least immune some of the fears. I can imagine how bad this fight is on warrior or enhance shaman
The oil spill could be a good thing depending on what slip means. Slip and fall like a knockdown or slip and slide which if your sliding you can usually cast while moving and it’s slightly faster than moving so could be used for avoiding mechanics
I beat him yesterday on my 623ilvl Windwalker monk (Im a MW main and swap for the purpose of Zekvir??) .. took me 230 approx attempts and a bazillion gold. I feel like I can finish elden ring now hahah
Not sure if anyone else has had this problem, but I've had Zekvir insta cast his fear (no channel) right after using the swirly's in phase 2. It was swirlys and then I was dead, no dbm noti or anything. Just swirly's and then dead with WoW saying I died to his fear.
Zekvir is only bad depending on your class and when doing the ?? Solo achievement. RNG plays a heavy role with the frontals and locations of the eggs and it’s the main reason why it can take numerous attempts. They need to reduce the kind of RNG like that and make it more about proper execution like the swirly AoE
@ Yeah it’s crazy. That fight doesn’t have too hard mechanics but man it’s all about where the egg goes. If you get it up on that little platform you’re in trouble too. I’m positive the designed it like that on purpose to keep it from being predictable but it just becomes obnoxious and it was frustrating when I’d die because of stupid placement. They need to do better with the season 2
After spending around 20K gold trying to beat him on my monk, I switched to my pally. I was so sick of dying to the random, one-shot crit auto attack. ... after spending another 15K on my pally, I finally beat "??." One time, he even killed me by doing TWO crit auto attacks back-to-back (on my pally)! I almost gave up, but I beat him probably an hour after that. I was just so over it by that point, that I got into some weird "in-the-zone" moment. I was not even happy when I finally beat him. 🤷♂
I was sloppy and died at 3% on my pally. Took me so many tries after that, not because zek vir was very hard in general, but because he often did the egg placement in the worst possible place and him being stuck in bad castsequence and coneattacks over the eggs. So basicly, fight was hard due to RNG. In general tho zek virr was such a fun fight imo
When I beat him on my ret pally, I think it was because after the first 20 seconds of the fight, Zekvir starts spawning the eggs around every 30 seconds if he isn't doing something else. It perfectly aligned with the pally's Execution Sentence and Wake of Ashes, both on a 30 second CD to burst down the egg before it spawns. If it spawns, it gives the add double the health of the remaining health of the egg (bad sentence, sorry). Also, Blessing of Freedom (another short CD; 25 seconds) removed the deadly Enfeeble. You can't depend on Brann to dispel it. On phase two... oh, boy. Missing one heal is heartbreaking. But the RNG, like you said so many times, is so unreal. *Spawns egg on other other side of the room* *Does fear or cone aoe attack (so he doesn't move)* *You're on the other side of the room trying to kill egg* *He starts casting a heal on himself and you can't get to him on time* 🤬
execution sentence and wake of ashes proc and u nuke it everytime ... I never did it myself on ret so I cant say for sure.... save your damage for it is all!
Did ??zekvir as a new player at around 606 ilvl frost mage. It's hard but I dont think the rng ever makes it impossible as long as you pass the dps test on eggs. Cost me about 8k gold and I really had to lock in to get the kill tho. Idk if mage is just op tho
I've heard alots of seconds pumped into stunnes by PVe mobs, Why not if in 1v 1 situation its reduced to a PVp number? Like why seconds stunn if yha dead in 1 second?
If you want to be pissed off. Go do Zek on a low geared ret pally then come back and try it on your warrior. Kinda infuriating how under powered warrior feels in that fight compared to ret. My main has never been humbled quicker. It's almost impressive how badly tuned that fight is.
So far I've only done and beaten Zekvir on a 609 retpaladin, it took me around 40 to 50 tries of rng pain and sweat until I got the perfect set up from his abilities
Why do you think it’s meant to be a group fight? I thought it was a solo challenge and I put in 50+ pulls to kill it on fury warrior with every bit of my toolkit to beat him while yes there was RNG especially with the NWSE directionals and the egg + spray drops it was a good fight and you earn the kill.
I’ve beaten him 3 times on spriest, ww monk, and mm Hunter all at 610 ilvl. Each were gold sinks since I’m just not that good and I spent about 20k, 15k, and 16k. The priest is higher in cost, but that was my first time. If I were to do it now, spriest would be the easiest since I remember Silence can be cast without even facing him and void torrent on 30 second cd is way too good. Zekvir just isn’t balanced well and the next boss worries me.
You're gettin KO'd by Zekvir, because you're running too far away from his frontal. You're all out in the middle of it, where his cast will finish before you even leave the frontal area. Also, you're losing FREE DAMAGE during the fear circle. When Brann throws out that orb, the orb negates fears, so stand in it and keep fighting. So many people don't know that. And each time an add spawns, just wait half a second or even 1 second before rushing it, to see if a frontal is going to be faced in that direction. If you're rushing in this fight you will fail. Lastly, hopefully you're in full single target talents. Good luck, you can do it man!
Bliz needs to get tuning right on these. And leave it for the whole season. People talking about how they killed Zekvir while Brann was able to tank him and out dps them (pre-nerf) is stupid.
These are challenges, they're meant to be extremely hard. Zek'vir has almost NO rng, it's completely scripted. There is only a slight variance on the times (about 1-4 seconds), BUT the one thing I will give you is he should NOT be able to crit with autos. On ?? you SHOULD die for making one mistake. There is no character power locked behind it, it's purely bragging rights.... not everything needs to give player power.
@@ShawnSetGO That's why I said almost no RNG, egg placement is about the only random part, everything else has strict timers... there's just zero room for error. You miss one thing and it's a wipe (either you're dead, an add hatches or he heals). I think I had 60ish attempts on ?? before I got it on my ele shaman (was 624 at the time).
go frost mage. i've done it in 4 tries at 620ilvl a few days ago. all you need is a weakaura with sounds for heal and spitle casts - i've got that /wa from ze web after he killed me 2 times - so in he next 2 tries he died.
No clue why they decided to make the Boss all about RNG, this is such bad design. On almost every other Bossfight in the game I can look back at a death, see what I personally or the group as a whole did wrong and do better next time. On Zek it's just "yeah well, that was an unfortunate overlap and there was nothing I could do - better luck next time!" But the worst thing about it, as in every bit of Delve content - is Brann. Will he kick or will he not? Will he switch to the add or will he not? Why can't he just kick when my kick is on cooldown and switch to the add when it spawns? If it's not there to balance some class-weaknesses, why does this annoying garbage NPC even exist in the first place? Puts a whole new perspective on "Let me solo him"...
Honestly buddy, there is ALWAYS A WAY... It's supposed to be hard and take a few attempts. Not saying you suck at all, Maybe use some cd's? Maybe use pots? I have had no issue on all classes but evoker which I refuse to play... It's super easy as any melee for real.
@@ShawnSetGO haha bro i love ur vids, if ur 610 or over and cant do it?? thats a mechanic prob and you should have the skill to take care of it, if not ur making mistakes... cant blame blizzard for making it too hard when you have the tools to deal with it but dont play optimal......
the bad thing is even with gear, it dosnt help get passed the rng. gear just helps get the boss down faster. at 638 ilvl i still spent 40 min, each pull about 3-4 min, doing this boss. the rng was bad but thanks to my gear i could transition him faster to p2 making it a little bit easier. but since the frontl still one shot a tank, i swapped to dps to kill it faster
The real question is if they will put another chandelier on the middle of the room to jank the camera.
100% lol
I mean if you have your camera zoomed out further than the base game allows, that's not their fault.
@@xdelisiusx That is not the case. I have it fully zoomed out from what the settings allow. They have broken addons that zoom it out more quite some time ago.
Also, the nameplate castbar is quite high up and you need to zoom out to see it.
Otherwise you need to ironically rely on addons to alert you.
This is fully their fault. 😂
@@NemXX2 I mean there's a very clear casting animation for the spittle (which you won't be interrupting anyways), same for the heal. That being said, the "stage" in the back of the room irritated me to no end when it put an egg up there and then you can't see the ground effect for the smash.
I think the fight was perfectly reasonable when I did it on my ele shaman and spriest. Having RNG aspects doesn't instantly make everything bad or unfair. It keeps you on alert and forces you to use your abilities more wisely. If they made it even slightly easier I think it'd become a joke, which would make it an even more worthless piece of content as the rewards are already nonexistent.
Yes, you thought the fight was very reasonable on your ranged dps classes where you don’t have to drag zek’vir on top of the adds to kill the adds and praying that he doesn’t decide to fear because dodging the fear means not killing the add.
I was fortunate enough to do this on dk where I could at least immune some of the fears. I can imagine how bad this fight is on warrior or enhance shaman
The oil spill could be a good thing depending on what slip means. Slip and fall like a knockdown or slip and slide which if your sliding you can usually cast while moving and it’s slightly faster than moving so could be used for avoiding mechanics
I beat him yesterday on my 623ilvl Windwalker monk (Im a MW main and swap for the purpose of Zekvir??) .. took me 230 approx attempts and a bazillion gold. I feel like I can finish elden ring now hahah
Lol True
Not sure if anyone else has had this problem, but I've had Zekvir insta cast his fear (no channel) right after using the swirly's in phase 2. It was swirlys and then I was dead, no dbm noti or anything. Just swirly's and then dead with WoW saying I died to his fear.
I've had them clustered pretty close together like one immediately after but still a channel. That's rough though
@@ShawnSetGO Ye no channel, just boom dead the/ All the swirly's hadn't even disappeared
Zekvir is only bad depending on your class and when doing the ?? Solo achievement. RNG plays a heavy role with the frontals and locations of the eggs and it’s the main reason why it can take numerous attempts. They need to reduce the kind of RNG like that and make it more about proper execution like the swirly AoE
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@ Yeah it’s crazy. That fight doesn’t have too hard mechanics but man it’s all about where the egg goes. If you get it up on that little platform you’re in trouble too. I’m positive the designed it like that on purpose to keep it from being predictable but it just becomes obnoxious and it was frustrating when I’d die because of stupid placement. They need to do better with the season 2
After spending around 20K gold trying to beat him on my monk, I switched to my pally. I was so sick of dying to the random, one-shot crit auto attack.
... after spending another 15K on my pally, I finally beat "??." One time, he even killed me by doing TWO crit auto attacks back-to-back (on my pally)!
I almost gave up, but I beat him probably an hour after that. I was just so over it by that point, that I got into some weird "in-the-zone" moment.
I was not even happy when I finally beat him. 🤷♂
Paladins definitely seem the way to do it lol
I was sloppy and died at 3% on my pally.
Took me so many tries after that, not because zek vir was very hard in general, but because he often did the egg placement in the worst possible place and him being stuck in bad castsequence and coneattacks over the eggs. So basicly, fight was hard due to RNG.
In general tho zek virr was such a fun fight imo
When I beat him on my ret pally, I think it was because after the first 20 seconds of the fight, Zekvir starts spawning the eggs around every 30 seconds if he isn't doing something else.
It perfectly aligned with the pally's Execution Sentence and Wake of Ashes, both on a 30 second CD to burst down the egg before it spawns. If it spawns, it gives the add double the health of the remaining health of the egg (bad sentence, sorry).
Also, Blessing of Freedom (another short CD; 25 seconds) removed the deadly Enfeeble. You can't depend on Brann to dispel it.
On phase two... oh, boy. Missing one heal is heartbreaking.
But the RNG, like you said so many times, is so unreal.
*Spawns egg on other other side of the room*
*Does fear or cone aoe attack (so he doesn't move)*
*You're on the other side of the room trying to kill egg*
*He starts casting a heal on himself and you can't get to him on time*
🤬
execution sentence and wake of ashes proc and u nuke it everytime ... I never did it myself on ret so I cant say for sure.... save your damage for it is all!
RNG Hell for sure
Did ??zekvir as a new player at around 606 ilvl frost mage. It's hard but I dont think the rng ever makes it impossible as long as you pass the dps test on eggs. Cost me about 8k gold and I really had to lock in to get the kill tho. Idk if mage is just op tho
Having to rely on Brann is the hardest part
I've heard alots of seconds pumped into stunnes by PVe mobs, Why not if in 1v 1 situation its reduced to a PVp number? Like why seconds stunn if yha dead in 1 second?
If you want to be pissed off. Go do Zek on a low geared ret pally then come back and try it on your warrior. Kinda infuriating how under powered warrior feels in that fight compared to ret. My main has never been humbled quicker. It's almost impressive how badly tuned that fight is.
Yeah FeelsBadMan
Dude, you just need to manage your CD properly
I put in over 50 pulls on fury war for ?? And I earned that kill
It was good
So far I've only done and beaten Zekvir on a 609 retpaladin, it took me around 40 to 50 tries of rng pain and sweat until I got the perfect set up from his abilities
Why do you think it’s meant to be a group fight? I thought it was a solo challenge and I put in 50+ pulls to kill it on fury warrior with every bit of my toolkit to beat him while yes there was RNG especially with the NWSE directionals and the egg + spray drops it was a good fight and you earn the kill.
Meant to be a group fight if it's easier and you can complete it?
@@ShawnSetGO Delves are meant to be solo content first and foremost.
I’ve beaten him 3 times on spriest, ww monk, and mm Hunter all at 610 ilvl. Each were gold sinks since I’m just not that good and I spent about 20k, 15k, and 16k. The priest is higher in cost, but that was my first time. If I were to do it now, spriest would be the easiest since I remember Silence can be cast without even facing him and void torrent on 30 second cd is way too good. Zekvir just isn’t balanced well and the next boss worries me.
Exactly this. Some classes have it easy but soloing him just is unfair for some
You're gettin KO'd by Zekvir, because you're running too far away from his frontal. You're all out in the middle of it, where his cast will finish before you even leave the frontal area. Also, you're losing FREE DAMAGE during the fear circle. When Brann throws out that orb, the orb negates fears, so stand in it and keep fighting. So many people don't know that. And each time an add spawns, just wait half a second or even 1 second before rushing it, to see if a frontal is going to be faced in that direction. If you're rushing in this fight you will fail. Lastly, hopefully you're in full single target talents. Good luck, you can do it man!
I had no idea on the orb, that might be it
Bliz needs to get tuning right on these. And leave it for the whole season. People talking about how they killed Zekvir while Brann was able to tank him and out dps them (pre-nerf) is stupid.
True, and that may be their only impression of it so to them it's EZPZ
here's the deal, 20 euro will get you 400k gold, stop farming, you just keep punishing yourself if you farm gold at this point
easy. because classes and spec have very different abilities.
a squishy DPS won't have the solo'ing power of a BDK.
These are challenges, they're meant to be extremely hard. Zek'vir has almost NO rng, it's completely scripted. There is only a slight variance on the times (about 1-4 seconds), BUT the one thing I will give you is he should NOT be able to crit with autos. On ?? you SHOULD die for making one mistake. There is no character power locked behind it, it's purely bragging rights.... not everything needs to give player power.
True, it doesnt need player power, but I disagree on the RNG part
@@ShawnSetGO That's why I said almost no RNG, egg placement is about the only random part, everything else has strict timers... there's just zero room for error. You miss one thing and it's a wipe (either you're dead, an add hatches or he heals).
I think I had 60ish attempts on ?? before I got it on my ele shaman (was 624 at the time).
go frost mage. i've done it in 4 tries at 620ilvl a few days ago. all you need is a weakaura with sounds for heal and spitle casts - i've got that /wa from ze web after he killed me 2 times - so in he next 2 tries he died.
No clue why they decided to make the Boss all about RNG, this is such bad design. On almost every other Bossfight in the game I can look back at a death, see what I personally or the group as a whole did wrong and do better next time. On Zek it's just "yeah well, that was an unfortunate overlap and there was nothing I could do - better luck next time!"
But the worst thing about it, as in every bit of Delve content - is Brann. Will he kick or will he not? Will he switch to the add or will he not? Why can't he just kick when my kick is on cooldown and switch to the add when it spawns? If it's not there to balance some class-weaknesses, why does this annoying garbage NPC even exist in the first place? Puts a whole new perspective on "Let me solo him"...
@@1hej0k3r sometimes he stands in the corner with his dino as I'm dying and I'm line 🤨
Honestly buddy, there is ALWAYS A WAY... It's supposed to be hard and take a few attempts. Not saying you suck at all, Maybe use some cd's? Maybe use pots? I have had no issue on all classes but evoker which I refuse to play... It's super easy as any melee for real.
Proof of prot warrior completion or no balls
@@ShawnSetGO haha bro i love ur vids, if ur 610 or over and cant do it?? thats a mechanic prob and you should have the skill to take care of it, if not ur making mistakes... cant blame blizzard for making it too hard when you have the tools to deal with it but dont play optimal......
the bad thing is even with gear, it dosnt help get passed the rng. gear just helps get the boss down faster. at 638 ilvl i still spent 40 min, each pull about 3-4 min, doing this boss. the rng was bad but thanks to my gear i could transition him faster to p2 making it a little bit easier. but since the frontl still one shot a tank, i swapped to dps to kill it faster
Yeah basically just a trial of attrition alleviated by a dps check
Casters gonna love that huh 😒