Catamaran tacking technique the fundamentals and tips - onboard with commentary
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Joyrider TV is one of the best channels on RUclips for catamaran sailing tutorials, maintenance, Q+As and great small cat sailing content.
Whether you sail a Hobie, Nacra, Aclass, acat, Prindle, Hurricane, Dart, Windrush, Tornado, Unicorn, F18, F16, Supercat, Thundercat, Dragoon or even a Minicat, you'll find something here to help you. Here we go over the technique for improving tacking on any type of catamaran.
It's all about the mainsheet!
You don't need to go into the tack with speed as long as you do the right thing with the mainsheet.
Sheet in hard before the tack
turn into the wind
when head to wind release the mainsheet - the more that you ease the more likely you are to succeed.
move across the boat, sit down look forwards
jib across and re trim main as you start sailing forwards again.
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When Joe tells you how to do something, that’s how you do it. Simple. 👍
I try!
I watched this video a year ago, got much better at tacking and then today I watched it again and noticed the next level of details to clean it up and make it more efficient. So well done Joe!
Thanks very much, I'm glad that this helped......twice!
Clear, exhaustive, full of tips... in other words the perfect instructional video! Great job Jos! 👍
Very thorough explanation of the fundamentals of the tack. Thank you Joe. ⛵👍
Oh man ! What an instructor is this guy ! Many thanks for these cristal clear explainations . I no longer be scared of not makin' it back to the beach. Jo you are the best !
Glad to help, the main thing is to gradually build up the amount of wind that you are sailing in - if that's possible of course.
So many questions answered. Had trouble completing my tack with a hoby 16. Excellent video.
Glad it helped!
Thanks for a great lesson as always. I’ve been doing it wrong at times, not waiting for the jib to backwind. Your process looks very smooth. Thanks Joseph for the detailed explanation about how to properly tack the Hobie 16!!!! Happy Sailing “y’all “!!! Lol.
Great video thanks. The most difficult part of sailing a catamaran is to avoid stalling it when tacking. You did not quite address stalling as directly as you could have, but the mainsheet is the key to this and you gave clear instructions on when to release it. Stalling can be a very frustrating and potentially risky experience for novices.
Yes, I could certainly have gone into stalling more.
Here's another that I made on the topic:
ruclips.net/video/rD3pCPRjly0/видео.html
Best video yet Joe, worth twelve months of my Paetreon alone. Thanks.
Thanks Mark!
Thanks Joe, just getting into cat sailing for the first time and been watching your video's then practicing on the lake, awesome work mate.
Great to hear!
Thanks for the great tutorial, even though I had to wait until 11:50 to get the explanation why it is important to release the main sheet during the tack. Good job! 👍🏼
Next video idea could be reading telltales on the h16 while sailing
Good idea - it's on the list
New to the channel I wish I would have watched more of your videos before I ask questions on some of your other videos. By far the most informative channel I've ever been on
Welcome aboard!
You're just the best, buddy! Never seen anything more pro than this! Excellent info, very neat!
Thanks very much, i'm glad that it helps
Thanks from Russia, Joe. Very useful video
Super explanation which helps me a lot, thanks!
Glad it helped!
Great video with excellent information
thanks very much.
I'm really grateful for your videos! I signed up for a multilingual cat sailing classes but the teacher only says a few words in English here and there so I've been missing out on a lot and it's been really difficult
Thanks, I'm glad that the videos are helpful.
Excellent video. Thank you for posting it
Glad you enjoyed it!
super helpful, love the fundamentals vids and I feel a lot more confident.
Glad you like them!
I have watched again , preparing for the incoming sailing season. Great explanation Joe, it helps a lot to brush up our techniques.
Glad to help
Thanks Joseph. I've had trouble with tacking my Jarcat6 so I'm now armed with some techniques.
Found this really helpful - it’s very clear and breaks everything down into key steps that are easy to understand. I’d love to say I have immediately transformed my cat sailing - on day four trying it I have a little way to go 🙂 - but I really recommend Joe’s basics films for those new to cat sailing..
Thanks very much for the endorsement.
I'm very glad to be able to help.
Keep up the good sailing, maybe a fast joyrider tomorrow?
Thank you so much for this explanation , I always dreaded tacking and getting stuck (happened too many times, not fun when water is rough).
However after watching this and following your instructions to a T. Suddenly its easy, and I gained confidence! Can't thank you enough!!! Looking forward to go out and practice more tacking :)
i'm really glad that it helped!
Thank you for all of your videos, but this one in particular. I’m a new Hobie owner and I’ve been challenged in completing my light air tacks effectively. I’m looking forward to applying some things I’ve learned from you.
(‘83 H16 “Blue Hawaii”)
I'm glad that it's been helpful!
When tacking in light air, you will not be block to block on the main. The idea in lighter air is to keep all the weight in the middle of the boat. Take all the rake out of the mast during setup and keep your weight toward the front. When tacking remain forward until you have to bring the tiller extension around the mainsheet. Then get your weight back up to the front crossbar to get going again. You HAVE to keep the transoms out of the water as long as possible when sailing in light air. Also in light wind you have to watch out for wakes from passing motor boats. Steer into/across the wake and resume course when you're through the wake.
Another great video joe. Couple of questions that you may be addressing on the future ...
1) the steps on tacking when wind is coming at different angles from behind you (not necessarily downwind) and jybing ...how and when to jybe properly. Thanks joe.
Hi Joe!
Chapeau and congratulations! I have seen almost every all your videos a couple of times, and they all are great! Particularly all your videos sailing the different catamaranes with live commentary (especially those on the tornado GBR2 at the Europeans) are very exciting and informativ as well! What I like most of all, I think, is your enthusiasm, which is arresting my attention immediately after hitting the start button! Great job, Joe! I have attempted to make some adventure videos by myself, and I know what I'm saying: Capturing the action with appropriate cam angles is not easy at all, but doing the final cut reducing tons of HD video sequences to a thrilling and still informativ short clip, that's the real challenge!
Please make similar videos about single handed gybing and spinnaker sailing (for light and strong winds) as soon as possible!
All the best,
Guenther (Dart 20)
Hi Guenther, thanks for the positive comments, and great to meet a Dart 20 sailor!
Send me some pictures for show us your cat - people need to see!
Gybing video uploading right now. I'll be making a high wind solo tacking and gybing soon.
Another excellent tutorial! Thanks!
Glad you liked it!
Excellent explanations, thanks joe
Glad it was helpful!
Soooooo helpful!!!! Thank you!!!!
You're so welcome!
Thank you for this😊
You're welcome 😊
very helpful video
Glad it was helpful!
Another great how-to video, Joe. Really appreciate your mix of the "what to do" and the technical "why to do it." Seems everyone else on RUclips does one ro the other. Also, do you have a video (or could you make one) on dagger-board management for the major points of sailing on a Hobie 18? Also, on how to set the mast rotation?
Mast rotation is already onTiger mainsail settings - ruclips.net/video/cVKHvn0fnKs/видео.html
Thanks!
Welcome! and thanks!
Thought of this as a video you may want to put out there. Could you do a video about mooring? At our place on Lake Martin, Alabama, we have very deep water, sea walls, rickety pier which will be replaced this fall when the water is down, but in the meantime, I need to moor my Hobie 16. I have used line from the pier to the boat and from the boat to an anchor point on land at diagonals and that works, but I’d like to know how to properly moor the boat with a mooring ball. I just thought that might be a good topic to explain, how to moor. Thanks Joe.
Hi Marty, i'll see what i can do - it'll be very interesting to put together.
If you take anything from this video its RELEASE the main sheets when tacking
Yes indeed. In simple terms, a tight main as the wind goes to the other side, simply prevents the boat continuing the turn as the wind pushes the tight main, and boat back toward pointing into wind.
@@robbie77300 Thanks for explaining this. I noticed loosening of the main as being a key step I wasn't doing before, but then couldn't figure out why that would be important.
How much let you go out the main sheet, if the Wind is strong it will run out completely!?
Usually one lenght of an arm,right?
Great job, thanks. best sailing Channel on earth.
An arms length is enough, if it runs out completely the tack will be successful but it will take longer to get the speed on the new tack.
I let out 8 inches and cleat it.
Thanks
Thanks very much!!!
Nice one Joseph! Massive help! Just purchased Laser Dart 16X never sailed a cat before. This explains my issues...Any chance of a video flying a kite too?
Kind regards
Steve
Hi Steve, I'm glad that it helped - try this for kite flying:
ruclips.net/video/B8fYaNUYBhI/видео.html
Hi Joe, one question on what you think is the best place to be for the front man in tacking. Do you think it is better to stay on his front windward position until the end of tacking in order to keep weight on the pivot hull, or do you think it is better for him to go back on the back part of the trampolin near the helmsman in order to release weight from the bows hence raising the bows and pivoting on the sterns? Thanks!
In light winds, if you can coordinate it, for the crew to come back on the windward side a little will reduce the resistance of the boat turning.
In heavy winds to prevent the capsize the crew has to stay forwards
Joseph Bennett Thanks!! 👍
What you are describing is the roll tack, promoted by Rick White back in the 90s. Here's what he said to a similar question in 2002.
Personally, I would learn the roll tack first and do the right way and not develop bad habits. Biggest problem I have in teaching my seminars is trying to get sailors to unlearn bad habits.
The old way had folks backwinding the jibs. That just stops the boat and makes it back up. You will forever be taking close to 30 seconds to tack from high speed to high speed and that equates to around a boat length per second.
Sailing the jib through (as in the roll tack) allows the boat to keep moving and develops more power through the turn. And the tacks can executed in less that 4 seconds. Big difference.
@@dchall8 yeah actually is a kind of roll tack, but in my opinion what speeds up the tack is doing exactly what @JosephBennet describes in the videos, the timing of the mainsal easing.
I found that keeping an eye on the jib and easing tha mainsal sheet and pushing up the boom with my shoulder as soon as I see the jib starts to backwinding (easing it then immediately to pass it to the other side), lets the Hobie complete fastly the tack.
Even with low winds we are well under 10 seconds to be on the new route following Joe's video, more than the hulls, the key point is the mainsail easing tjming in my opinion.
Great video. This look hard to do and go under the boom if being 190 cm tall ? Pls comment🙏
The Hobie 16 has the lowest boom, everything else is much easier.
I'm more like 180 and sometimes it feels awkward getting under the boom on a 16.
Hmmm...Thanks Joe...Great video!
It's certainly not rocket science, but easier said than done...Getting the bows to continue to swing past the "into wind" to the other side is still sometimes problematic, especially in 15 to 20 kts of wind...Often I have to back the jib...way out...in order to force the boat to leeward...Does it matter how aggressively you push the tiller over? You'd think that once you've got some good speed that pushing the tiller more aggressively would get you swinging around quicker, but it often results in a quick stop and into irons...
I find that as long as you're cranking the main sheet in and then releasing when head to wind it should go through, backing the jib a little will always help.
Steering - gently into the wind and then hard over once head to wind
I’ll get back to you...As you know… A poor workmen blames his tools… I’m pretty sure there’s something wrong with my boat!
@@tripleseven8361 send me a picture and i'll see if there's anything obvious - totaljoyrider@icloud.com
Peter, i started sailing/racing a Hobie 14 (one of the hardest boats to tack) back in 1971 and raced a Hobie 16 in the 1983 Worrel 1000. in my experience I have learned that turning the rudders aggressively on a Hobie is one of the worst things you can do to when trying to execute a good tack. I like the rate of turn that Joe uses and found this, aggressively depowering the main, to produce the best results. I would also add that if you bring the main on too soon after the tack (before a proper flow of water over the rudders is established), you will most like end up straight in the wind again.
Gents… Thanks for the insightful comments... I have to confess that as an airline pilot, (new on the Boeing 777), I have had no time to sail yet this summer and I’m ashamed to say that my Hobie is in my driveway, I’m ready to go… I should be back home late Tuesday (with seven days off) and promise to make amends… I will Respond with results at my earliest...
ive never sailed a catamaran and this feels very counter-intuitive watching the video.Ive always been taught( and have been doing) to never turn your back towards where you re going but then again there doesnt seem to be any other way to do this on the hobie since you cant move in between the main sheet and the rudder like on all other dinghys
It's just the way that it has to be due to the layout of the boat.
My thoughts exactly…
thx
You're welcome
Спасибо Джозеф)
I notice that the main traveler is centered. Is this essential?
I was out yesterday solo in high winds and big swells so my traveler was out to reduce the power somewhat and the tacks were stalling. I know the large swells weren't helping but they certainly make cat sailing exciting if not challenging. Twice I was knocked off while trapizing. Any tips on how to deal with that situation?
Having the traveller in more will help the tack especially when it's windy - it will really speed the boat turning into the wind.
With getting knocked off, the only recommendation would be to set the trapeze as short as possible and power the boat up more to lift the hull a little. Tricky in a big swell.
Why do we let the main sheet off when the jib backs and then sheet in afterwards?
That's a good question for this week's Q+A
It'll on Friday at the usual time.
When do you jibe vs a tack, come about?
Tacking for upwind, gybing for downwind - the tack feels safer if it's windy.
You wouldn't sail a hobie 16 in waves bigger than________ ? I'm on the Chesapeake Bay water is shallow and can be a bit choppy (an average of 18 feet deep). What would you recommend for recreation in such conditions?
Pretty big - depending on the wind strength. I've not sailed in waves so much recently but we had a day out in Mauritius we a 3m rolling swell - that was a lot of fun.
The H18 has much more volume so much less likely to stick the nose in.
So... keep the jib on before turning, the change it over?
Yes, to really get it nicely, ease the jib a touch when head to wind then let it pull you around.
Hi, i have a problem of stopping during a tack in a wind of 20+ kn, it makes me go backwards to bear off to a new course. What could help not to lose speed?
I'll talk about this in this week's Q+A
are we just gonna ignore the guy who crawls under the boat at 14:01?
that's probably best!
13:50 😂😂😂😂😂
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Today while sailing our Hobie 16 in wavy windy conditions we nearly capsized backwards while tacking. I think the wind may have gotten under the tramp while tacking pushing up up and back. Luckily we saved it Any idea how to prevent this? Thanks.
Yes, on a windy tack you really need to get the crew forward on the trampoline and the helm needs to spend as little time at the back as possible. Also not having the jib backed for too long will help to prevent the swim.
ola joseph eu sou seu Fã, vc é muito capaz,, mas vou fazer um pergunta.
VC podia fezer uma experiencia com o hobie cat 16.
troca a vela Mestra do hobie cat 16,, pela vela Mestra do hoicat cat 14.
para ver como fica o desempenho do hobie cat 16.
EU acho que ninguém fez isso ainda
Oh yes, I have done that, It works very well for the strong wind. Here are the videos:
Hobie 16 onboard - solo H14 mainsail
ruclips.net/video/-LqL-wjoSVw/видео.html
Hobie 16 onboard - 25knots with 14 sail!
ruclips.net/video/YLqCWIFJXyE/видео.html
How do you stop these things stalling?
The main thing is not to sheet too much main until the boat is up to speed.
I'll give a full answer in next week's Q+A on wednesday.
what sail do you have on a 16 that is boomless?
It is standard - there is a boom on there.
@@JoyriderTV ahhh gotcha lol... musta been a weird angle and i didnt investigate further... but I ended up finding french sails that have no boom for the 16... so happy accident
Really helpful explanation, especially for someone like me who has crewed but hasn't skippered. Just so others know, the gybing video is here: ruclips.net/video/z6VGCsqsp_o/видео.html
I'm planning on becoming a patron on Patreon since I've watched quite a few of these so far and they're all excellent. I'd definitely pay for more of these sorts of applied, on-the-water theory videos (+ safety + weather + anything else helpful towards a bareboat skipper). I'm currently using NauticEd for theory but your videos are great for virtual crewing
Resort not very busy then ???
Just picking up now.
First!
kkkkk ,,,,joseph tinha um cara olhando o seu fundo pra ver se vc tava de coecas boxes...brincaderas
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If Joe can’t tack that damn 14 then who can? Sometimes I just gybe all the way around.
Yeah, i definitely know where you're coming from. I did 2 videos troubleshooting taking the 14. Check them out here:
ruclips.net/video/DG3IRKFBTVo/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/b27buQeJXXA/видео.html
What is tacking? Somebody please!
It is where you are turning the boat from one side of the wind to the other.
this might help:
ruclips.net/video/xs10PUaA6dE/видео.html
At 1:29 you should have been sailing again. Instead you had to fiddle with the jib bringing it from windward to leeward. That took you 9 more seconds. Of course a crew has two arms to bring it through faster, but I maintain that breaking the jib completely loose is the first step in the tack. As the boat moves through the eye of the wind, the jib flips to the new side and starts generating lift again to bring the boat across the eye.
When I release the main, I release about 8 inches of sheet and re-cleat it.
At the end when recovering from a failed tack, your explanation is not that helpful. The explanation that helped me is to push on the boom and push on the tiller extension. This backs the boat into the new tack almost instantly so you can recover. Running failed tack drills is just about as important as running tacking drills. Every skill you can master is important in a race. Plus it's a lot more fun to go out knowing there's no problem you cannot recover from.
Yes, good shout. If you never fail how will you know what to do when you do?
For solo sailing I will take your advice and loose the jib before initiating the turn.
Thanks for your advice
What in this video is so bad, that it get's 7 dislikes?
I've become immune to dislikes. They actually promote the video as much as likes.
It's probably that they clicked on the wrong video.