Yamaha Tenere 700 WORLD RAID - First Impressions - 1000km DONE 🇳🇴
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- Опубликовано: 2 июл 2024
- I had the bike for a couple of weeks now, and I'm just finished running it in. These are my first impression of the bike, what I like and what I dislike about the bike and I compare it to my old KTM 790 Adventure R. Enjoy
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00:00 Intro
01:02 Seat, Comfort & Position
03:03 Wind Protection
04:02 Brake & Clutch
05:58 TFT Display
06:58 Riding Footage
08:06 Suspension
10:15 The Engine
11:41 Weight & Top Heavy
13:01 The Sound
14:00 The OEM Tires
15:04 Questions from you guys
17:19 Modifications installed
19:43 Ending
Great video! My rebound/compression changes made the small bumps much smoother so play around with that. ”It’s fast in a slow way” is forever a golden quote now 😂 just like i am tall in a short way 🏆.
Damn I forgot to mention that in this video... I used the same settings as in your suspension video, and it made a positive difference on the World Raid as well... 👏🏻 Hahaha.... 🤣🔥 no, you are just short... period 🙈 The Scandinavian English is a force in it's own 😆 Thank you Robert, I mean Lord Robert of the Dark Side 🙏🏻
Yes I liked that quote as well 😅
A giant in a small world
As usual, an excellent video from Thomas. Thank you.
Thank you Mark, glad to hear I keep a solid flow of high value content. I will try to set the bar a little bit higher this year as well 😉 Cheers
Probably the best review that I have seen. Answered plenty of questions. I'm now ready to book a test ride. Thanks 👍
Thank you Andy, appreciate that. And so glad you got your questions answered. Cheers
Thanks for sharing your first experience with the bike 👍🏽😃
You are welcome Alex... Still early, so it is hard to say to much about it other than it fits my need really well, and I can't wait to get to know it better. Cheers 🍻
Great vlog mate. Glad it suits you the way you want.
Thank you sir... 🤩
Nice to know you are happy with the new bike. Cheers!
Indeed I am mate... thank you 👏🏻
Sweet production, useful insights. Nice review mate.
Thank you sir, appreciate that 🤩 Glad you liked it.
Enjoy your new bike and have safe rides !
Thank you so much... I'm enjoying it quite a lot 🤩🔥 Cheers
the way you describe the engine is so perfect. the CP2 is an amazing wonder.
Thank you, and I totally agree 🤩
Proper review. Well done! Takk
Glad you liked it. Cheers 🔥
Nice! Glad to hear you like it and interesting to hear your thoughts.
Cheers
Hello mate 🤩 I'm loving the bike, it has really opened my eyes in more than one way. Can't wait to put some solid milage on this bike. Cheers 🔥
Great vid . great-sounding exhaust
Thank you mate.... the exhaust is just steller on this bike. mmmm 🤩
Det var en fin og informativ video Thomas! 👌
Takk for det Jon 🤩 Setter jeg pris på å høre.
Fab review Thomas. Lots of relevant info on there and put together perfectly 👌🏼
Thank you mate 🤩 I'm not used to making these kinds of video, so I had a hard time putting it all together. Hope it was good. Cheers ☺️
@@tshansen You can see the effort. I was watching all of those cuts and camera repositions and was thinking "that must have taken aaaaaaaaages to do!"
@@CampbellZeroOne Hahaha, most people think that, but it is crazy how much you can do with a little bit of effort and planing ahead 😇
Excellent review thanks .
You are welcome mate, glad you found it informative. Cheers 🍻
Nice one Thomas 🙂 Finally caught your new video on your upgrades that i saw on Instagram...Have Fun on the new bike mate 🙂
Thank you mate 🔥 I enjoy every second on my new bike. Can't wait to get out on the road again. Cheers
Some well thought out add-ons to your bike Thomas. Good choices mate. She sounds sublime with that exhaust .🔥
Thank you Uncle 🤩👏🏻 Yeah, I think this is some add-ons I just can't be without for my usage. And the sound is half the bike. There is just something childish with a proper sounding bike (for me) 🤌🏻
Great video, Thomas! That exhaust sounds superb, maybe even better than my 990 😂 Looking forward to your travels this year!
Thank you Ben.... The sound of this bike is so damn nice 🤌🏻🔥 Can't wait to get out on a longer adventure again. Cheers
Great review Tjommi! Alot of your thoughts was what I could expect and have felt when was test riding the T7. I would love to test this WR at Bike as well, I have not looked if it's possible yet though. Suspension looks like a great update and seems to do it! Engine sound review is definitely much appreciated 😂🙌. Look forward to see alot more on your farkling, added gear and thoughts on your adventures. See You soon Tjommi 💪🤠🔥.
Thank you Tjommi 😃🔥 Yeah, I bet we had some of the same experiences on this bike, but I have to say, the engine was much better than I expected (for my riding) I heard rumours that the new batch of bikes are delayed here in Norway, so it can take some time before there is demo bikes available. The suspension is a great upgrade, but you know how it is, you always want to see how it could be with even greater suspension 🤭 Engine sound is half the bike.... braap braap 😆 Well, the next couple of videos now will be me out on the trails or the roads, enjoying camping, food and nice scenery. And who knows... maybe a meet up with a true Hero 😇 Skåål Tjommi 🍻
Nice Vid, great review!! Greetings from Germany
Thank you mate 🔥🤩 glad you liked it. Cheers
Good and informative video!
Cheers mate, glad to hear that 🤩
Thanks for the video. Shall be my next bike.
Your welcome mate, i can understand why. I really enjoy it 🤩🔥
That was actually a very interesting KTM 790 to your newer Tenere 700 review. Still love my KTM1190, never been on a T7 but after your video I am looking forward to test a Yamaha Tenere 700. Ride safe Thomas!!
Thank you Cosmo... glad to hear that. You should really try one, I'm blown away by the potential in this bike. Ride safe 🔥
Very good review, thanks! I'm getting the bike middle of July! Will change the tyres to Tkc80...
Glad you liked it mate, and congrats on your new bike. Hope you will get it mid July, they are talking about some delays here in Norway 🙈 I have some TKC80's on backorder as well, with some mitas tires I want to test. 👏🏻
Wonderful machine I love the growl from it.
It truly is, a really great machine and the sound is even better 🤩 absolutely love it.
Great initial review. I really want this bike (I currently have both the Super Tenere and a WR250R) but I think it's going to be some time until I can switch. Looking forward to your adventures on the new Yamaha!
Thank you… it is a great bike and i’m really happy with it so far! First long Adventure on the road now
Good vid TS.
Thank you Sam… Hope it was informative and covered the basics. Cheers
Great video! I like this bike more and more. Luckily, my riding buddy just bought it, so I will at least test it.
Thank you Nikola 🤩 I like this bike more and more my self. It is crazy how a bike can make you so joyful. Cheers 🔥
thanks for the review
You are welcome, hope it was useful 🤩 Cheers
Sounds amazing. Health to ride
It sure does Peter 🤩 Love the braaap braaap from this engine 🔥
watched the whole video and how fast it ended. waitinng for more videos.
Well, I hope you liked it... I felt like I was a little bit on the long side, but I had so much to cover 🤣 More to come soon 😇
@@tshansen eagerly waiting 🤩🤩
Nice one Thomas, agree with many of your comments and I think a wider screen, say 15mm either side (there’s plenty of room concerning full lock mirror clearance), would make a big difference. So far I find the seat so much better, than the torture device fitted to the T7 Rally Edition. suspension is 100% better, feels more grown up and I don’t feel I need to change the spring as on my T7 RE, they must have put springs that are suited to the euro market rider weight. The CP2 engine is truly a gem, more than enough grunt for mere mortals. 😉 The standard exhaust sound is fine for me (and no rattles from the engine to hide, if you know what I mean Thomas 😉). Overall, its working out nicely. 👍
Thank you mate 🤩 Yeah, a even wider screen could work, or maybe some smaller rally mirrors you can tuck inn to the handlebars. For now, it is not a problem, but It's to early to tell. Need to take it on some proper long trips to conclude. Haha... I have not tried the seat you are referring to, but I take your word for it 🤣 The CP2 engine is a really great surprise. They have done something incredible with this engine. Hahaha.... no rattles to hide 🙈 Still blown away by the many issues mate. So glad it was sorted for you. Cheers 👏🏻
Answered to almost all my questions! As always ;)
So glad to hear that Michal 👏🏻 Cheers
@@tshansen what have you found bad with the original engine protection?
@@michalkondas Noting yet... Is there something particular you have in mind?
@@tshansen I meant the old one. Why you decided to change it?
@@michalkondas I will need to make a separate video about this topic.
Thanks for your first 1000 km impressions 😀 I’ve only 150 km with mine, but it seems I have same feelings as yours. I usually ride a GS 1250 every day, The first few kilometres seemed a little strange to me 😀 as i was on a real racing bike. So much pleasure !
Have Nice rides
You are welcome mate... and so glad to hear you enjoy your bike as well mate 👏🏻 It is a great and fun bike to ride. 👏🏻🔥 Cheers
@@tshansen So are you still happy with your bike. I'm so happy with it. Just trying to understand how the gaz jauge works. Because sometime, it seems I don't have enough fuel, but just add 10 liters ! and sometimes, I'm sure to have an half fuel tank, but still have to add 10 liters again to fill it full. I add crashbars and just received Lone Rider Motorbags I have to install with the rear rack. But it is a so cool bike ! have a nice trip !
@@lescautpatrice8468 I'm still really happy with this bike. Run it 6000km already and I have loved every second of it. The gas gauge is just for show. it is all over the place, you need to learn how man km you can ride on each tank. and do the math. I fill up every 400 km then I have used about 18 liters
Detta med video har du virkelig fått til :) ser profft ut og tilbakemeldingene dine virker ærlig og troverdige. Keep up the good work :)
Takk for det Ove.... hyggelig å høre, slik setter jeg pris på 🤩 Prøver å være så objektiv og ærlig som mulig. Ja, dette blir jeg nok å fortsette med i mange år framover. Syntes det er utrolig kjekt å drive med video og redigering 😇 Skål 🍻
Honest review.... thanks
You are welcome mate, hope it was useful. Cheers
love to see you enjoying the little Sister of my old big lady ;) it is really a incredible good swiss knife under the ADV Bikes
Not only litte, a younger, more sexy and fit sister 🤣 It has truly surprised me a lot this bike. I can't wait to put many miles on it in the years to come. You should get one your self 🙈🤣 Cheers
Great video and nice setup. Pretty sure this will give you a lot pleasure without the worry that it will fall apart (like a KTM).😜🙌
Thank you Kalle 👌🏻 Yeah, I hope I can rest my mind for a while now with this bike. Cheers 😉
Great review and got me thinking as I recently swapped my Ice Blue T7 for the World Raid. For me the original T7 needed upgraded suspension for my 90kg weight whereas the WR was great straight out of the box, with smoother power delivery, better balance and lower half wind protection. It feels more grown up lacking some of the fun of the original.
My exact same feelings when trying out the original vs the World Raid. 👏🏻
My dream bike😏
I can understand why 🤩👏🏻
Nice one.. Feather/feathering the clutch... 🙂
Thank you, that is the Word i was looking for 😆 cheers
what a wonderful walk round and sharing of opinion - i love that you do not claim superiority in areas such as damping etc - total beauty of a machine too 🙂
Thank you mate, really glad you liked it. There are so many strong opinions out there about everything that has to do with motorcycle. I'm not an expert on any, I just try to share my humble views on what I like and what I don't like. Yes, sometimes I get a little bit eager, but I try too keep everything as objective as possible. Cheers 👏🏻
A very comprehensive review. I'm back in the market after a big issue with my Honda's so-called bulletproof DCT. Was seriously considering the 890R, which, in stock form, I think smokes the T7 in every way...except one. Reliability. Over here in the "new country," you often find yourself very far away from help. Last weekend I was 60 km out of cell range and no one but the bears, when my DCT started acting up. Reliability is not negotiable around here, so I'm super interested in the T7. Really wish the World Rally was available here, damn - what a beautiful bike, almost, almost makes me want to fly over there to buy one and fly it home. Yamaha, so far, has not brought it here. But I can modify a regular T7 with a fuel cell, suspension upgrades, heated grips etc. etc. The T7 looks like a very capable rock-solid machine.
Thank you Sir 👏🏻 Well, that is a scary thought. Damn, get stranded like that is no joke, and nothing to just "hike" out from. The 890 is an incredible machine in so many ways. But for me, a little bit overpowered for what I really need it for. And as you say, the reliability is absolutely mind-blowing poor on these bikes.
The World Raid was that little extra I wanted from this bike to make it my own, but today, with so many people making great stuff to the original T7. Would take that any day of week if the World Raid was not available here.
Exelent video kompis ☕
Takk takk 🤩☕️
@@tshansen bare hyggelig..
Happy to see another tall rider. I would like to have a taller seat and I'm waiting for my Givi touring screen. Though I'm 7cm shorter than you I found the screen on the standard T7 to be to short. Lots of wind noise. Skål från Sverige!
Thank you Tommy... You my find the new windscreen on the World Raid tall enough then. I would love to try a rally seat on this as well... just a tad more padding and a cm more dont hurt I think. could be a issue for some, reaching the ground 🙈
@@tshansen I think the original saddle is better than the Rally saddle. I don't know how the WR feels while riding.
Awesome review! I also have a world raid (also 1000km on the clock) and I also consider the seat uncomfortable.
Congrats on your new World Raid mate. I'm just not used to it yet, I will give it some more milage before I consider changing it.
Sometimes i want to buy a whole new bike myself, but the fact that since 1 May i have allready done 17 000km just in Norway scares me hehe. I don't know if i can handle spending so much money on services to hold guarantee :( Tenere would be my choice if i would ride alone, but riding 2up on Tenere the whole time could be.. tough :D Great bike tho! Congrats Thomas that You are really happy about it!
Damn, that is some serious milage mate 👏🏻 I would not choose the T7 if I was riding a lot with passenger. I would choose something bigger and more suitable. Thank you and yes, this bike makes me really happy 🔥
I changed the base settings on the fork and rear shock after i did the first service and was able to get rid of the harshness you descibe on the smaller bumps, got better support in the twisties, more progressive weight transfer during braking, and more stability and comfort when the fork and shock work harder with longer travel as well. It felt to me like there wasn't enough compression and rebound damping, or preload for that matter, for a 100Kg rider. -That makes perfect sense to me considering the avarage weight the bike most likely is set up for, and i'm happy i was able to dial it in. I made notes of my settings if anyone wan'ts to try if they suite your weight and riding on the WR.
Hell yes i’m interested in those settings! I would love for you to share them with me. Send me a Mail or a message ? 👏🏻🔥
hey, can you share your settings? thanks
@@vladurs6475 Check out Roberts video on the subject. It makes it way more easy to understand. ruclips.net/video/K8H2nOTgLw8/видео.html
Same settings I'm using on my bike as a starting point, and I have done some minor adjustment to my liking.
Looks great that Thomas should serve you well mate 👍🏻
Thank you, and yes... I really hope so 🤩
Not been on a T 7 but have had a MT 07 so I know the engine is sweet
I wanted the WR badly but it's not coming to Canada. So I just picked up a new T7. Nice bike you have!
I understand that a lot of people would like it over there! Is it not possible to Get next year either? Cheers
Awesome review 😎 Even though a bit more power would be nice on-road, I think it’s perfectly fine and tractable off-road. Going to get a black one🍻
I agree with you on that! The black one is really Nice and have some really Nice decal designs available
Owned for 1 year. Just 3 cons: rear brake efficiency (honest work but not eccellent), inaccurate gear (specially at warm engine) and missing of 10 additional HP for on road tours. All the rest is simply SUPER ! From range to rideability.
The break get's better with the camel adv upgrade. Don't have the gear issue? never heard of that to be honest? I can agree on the HP on road tours, would love to have that little extra spark on some twisty roads. 👏🏻
Just a reflection about your comment regarding the brakes on the 790 Thomas, I can relate to what you describe even on my 1290. Though it's important to mention that it's not KTM who produce the brakes on the bikes - it's Brembo ;)
Nope, brembo is not making the brakes on the 790/890 😉 and why is KTM the only Brand that struggles with this for so many years and don’t adress it?
Thanks
You are welcome mate 👏🏻
you should travel farther from Norway. Maybe Asia. Vlog it. You have a very impressive cinematography skills. Nice work. New subscriber here.
Thank you Dean… well, my plan is to go much further, but because of my family life, work and everything else that goes on in my life, to long motorcycle travel is not the easiest (yet) but I hope i can make a living out of this in the future (video and client work) so my dream is to live on the road. Cheers, glad to have you onboard mate.
Thanks for a super review, great bike really versatile and yet analog in a way. I don't like noisy pipes so you'd annoy me as a neighbor 😆
Thank you Dion…. That is a good sum up of the bike and some of the reasons i really enjoy this bike. So versatile but yet analog and simple. I know loud pipes is not for everyone. I have a sweet spot for loud pipes.. the sound is just music to my ears 🤭 Cheers
@@tshansen The Akropovic pipes are just loud enough for me ;-) looking forward to seeing your adventures.
A short message to thank you for your advices. I have finally had my 3 weeks trip in Norway and it will be done tomorrow.
I could reach North Cap as planned under heavy rain (since the beginning 😳😁)
It has been a great adventure for me.
Have a safe road ! ✌️
So glad to hear you had a great trip mate 👏🏻 Did it rain all the time? It has been a terrible summer here in Norway this year. Not like this normally. Cheers. Continue to travel safe mate 🔥
So glad to hear you had a great trip mate 👏🏻 Did it rain all the time? It has been a terrible summer here in Norway this year. Not like this normally. Cheers. Continue to travel safe mate 🔥
Great well rounded review. For me when I go to a twin it will be either the 790 or the WR T7 so after your review it is now the WR T7 so thanks for making it a simple decision with your experience with the 790. My only concern was the top heavy feel of the T7 but I will just have to deal with that. Thanks again , Regards Steve
Glad you found this helpful mate. I just want to add one thing to this video, don't go for the Daytona heated grips. They are GREAT, but I keep turning them off when riding in technical terrain. If I could choose again, I would go for the Oxford or something similar. The top heavy is not a deal, you get used to it, and for me it is not a problem.
Yeah thanks for the reply. I am sure it will ride fine being a Jap bike and you don't have to have the tanks full all the time. I like to ride by myself a lot so it is picking it up on the side of a snotty hill that really worries me. Ride safe :)@@tshansen
Gday, I have had my WR for a month now and done 2000km. It’s not top heavy even with full fuel.
@@occyman Cool that's great to know really appreciate your thoughts. It seems I have no reason not to buy one now..... lol.
Regards Steve
Very Nice review!!
Surprised to hear some of the complains you had on the 790, I mostly just heard about the display, water damage and the poor low rom tourq (slow speed).
I love the T7, low speed is so easy, almost do not to slip the clutch at all.
Btw the torx bolts you can use hex on, no problem as they aren’t that torqued down 😊, so no need to have torx, just use hex or 8mm socket
Thank you Marcus 🤩 I had a 10 min part of this video (at the end) I edited out, where I talked about why I changed my 790. I found out It was better to make a separate video about this. The 790 has so many small issues, and the growing numbers of pictures I get sent by rear shocks that leak, bolts on the rear shock that cracks. The camshaft issues and not to mention how hard it is to get extra parts these days. No more KTM for me (for a while)
I really enjoy the WR in slow speed as well.... I struggle a little bit with the jerky throttle, or have a hard time getting used to it. So I look drunk when I'm riding technical stuff some times 🤣🙈
@@tshansen hehe 😜.
Soon you do Enduro runs like I do 🥳
@@everythingtenere i wish, problem is i need to go east to Get to proper areas where we can do enduro stuff 😇
I love the Rallye mode on the 790; it is awesome. Also, the suspension, which is the same as on my 350 EXC-F, is excellent. One of my friend's might get a Tenere but for sure he will then get a suspension upgrade. You bought yourself a nice bike, Thomas!
@@marcel7161 he should het RallyRaid as i have or Tractive (same same)
I have the same bike and I love it. I'm 178cm tall and it's quite challenging for me on gravel roads but I got used to it.
I bet it can be a challange if you are that short on this bike yes.
I'm 178, so I've ordered the 20 reducer and that should work.
@@wild_yeti so far, I'm doing well with the standard suspension height. At some point there will be lowering seat for the WR.
I just bought 1 T7 5 days ago..just waiting her to arrive... i live on a island...and i can say it s even hard to sleep ...j just want to put my hands on theT7!!!!😅 i ride bikes since my 14 years old... and i was more for road bikes...Now i have 44 and want a more relaxed and capacity to go of road ....i had an r6..suzukigsxr 600...my first bike was a scooter and than i went to yamaha 125 dt and next a Honda xr600....and for my experience ...specially in road bikes ... suzuki gsxr6 was very special and so much fun to ride!!! All the suzuki models i have driven... i always enjoy... that why i would love to see suzuki doing an adv bike ...in my opinion the ones they have are not very pretty to the eyes...i would love to have a suzuki adv bike.. let s see if they make a surprise in design! Stay safe
Congrats on the new bike mate… I can really understand how you feel right now. Suzuki have a adventure bike, but it is really big and heavy
Awesome bike and great impression mate! I like these middleweight adventure bikes soo much I can't stop looking at these vids. Sadly where I live it's kinda useless to own such bike since off-road adventuring is non excitent.I bobber around on my Triumph for the time beeing. Sooo...what type of jobs are there in Norway I can apply for ? ;) such a beautifull country man
Thank you brother 👏🏻 i think this middle weight Adventure bikes are the perfect bikes for most usage! And they are so great to ride as well 👌🏻haha, most work are possible to Get here to be honest. And yes, Norway is truly beautiful 🇳🇴
Great video , thanks for sharing ! What about a upate / long therm review after one year ownership ? And more comparison with the ktm 790 ?
I'm scripting something like this, but I have not got time to shoot the footage yet. Been a really busy month for me. But I'm back at it really soon 🙏🏻
welcome to Family!. I have got T7 2019. 43k on odo and 0.0 problem! I think you will have way less problems than w KTM 😁😁
Thank you mate! Glad to hear that! I expect it to be just as reliable as the T7. KTM will never set high standards on this subject 🤣
@@tshansen problem of KTM is it looks they dont focus on trivial things. Just power,electronics,look etc. now made in china by CF moto, for sure there will be another issues in future
good review, and I agree specs don't do justice for this bike. BTW these tyres are not for off-road :)
Thank you Robson 👏🏻 I have started to notice this. I have some new tires on back order, but they are on month delayed, so I may just switch them over for a set of spare (half worn) tires in my shed.
I would love to have the colour TFT on mine.
Watched Nomad Sweden’s last video, after seeing how bad his frame looked I ordered a pair of Acerbis X Grip frame protectors to stop my boots taking the paint off, a worthwhile investment.
Yeah, this is a small but really important upgrade in my opinion. It looks really good. Yeah, I saw that video my self. I will look out for a set of them my self. Better safe than sorry 🔥
@@tshansen only about 40€, I just fitted Piviot Pegs too but noticed the World Raid bikes in my Yamaha dealer have better foot rests than the standard T7.
All the bodywork bolts are T30 on the standard bike.
@@bryansuperduke1290r That is a small price to pay to protect the frame. I can't find them anywhere here in Norway, so I need to find them online. Yeah, the footpegs are quite nice on the World Raid.
@@tshansen Dirtbike Express and Rebel Exports have them.
Thank you
Praying this bike comes to the U.S. ..
I read yesterday that they are expecting Japan produced World Raid models in Australia now in 2023, so there is probably a chance for you to get it as well? 👏🏻
👍👍👍
🔥 Cheers
As usual an excellent video. I have a standard T7 and I’m thinking of an exhaust change. I went to Black Widow’s web site and they have dozens of exhausts for the T7, if you don’t mind me asking, which version did you buy?
Thank you mate 🤩 I know they have a bunch of exhaust, I bought my pipe from a local guy here in Norway, but I checked up the part number and it is the same as this one:
www.blackwidowexhausts.co.uk/xt700-tenere-2021-2022-exhaust-silencer-kit-300mm-hexagonal-brushed-stainless-45815-p.asp
Nice bike, Thomas. Obviously it suits you much better than the KTM. The first tipover is not your last one ;-) Good protection helps to avoid damage. Enjoy Lofoten
Günter from Nürnberg/Germany
Thank you Günter 🤩 It is a much better fit than my KTM, and i have to say. It is more fun to ride as well. This is definite not my last tip over, and that is how it should be on a adventure bike. You want to find out where the limits are in technical terrain. Well, my first tip over was not so technical but we can pretend 😂 Cheers
@@tshansen Of course it was a tipover in the harshest conditions ever, Thomas ;-)
@@enduromotorradtouren Haha… indeed it was. 😂🙈
Hi Thomas. Just bought me a T7 and are super satisfied. Down side is that my internet shopping increasing big way as there are so much goodies to upgrade the bike with. About your luggage rack - Perun. Do you recommend the side racks when using soft luggage. Just ordered the Kriega saddle bags (18 litres) and will for sure order the top luggage rack but not sure about the need for side racks. Really appreciate you professional and honest videos. Please continue the good work. Understand how much you sacrifice of your own experience due to all the interruptions when arranging the perfect photo shootings and droone filming.
Hello Johan, and congratulations on the new bike 👏🏻 Glad you are happy with it. If I'm not mistaking, the kriega comes with an own base? I'm not sure if you need the side rack for that setup, the two setups I have had, Mosko Moto and Enduristan, I highly recommend the side rack as well.
I will continue to produce videos, I feel like I just started and having so much fun making them. So no plan on quitting anytime soon 🔥 Cheers
@@tshansen Thank you Thomas for taking time to reply. Yes they have a model specific base to fit the bags on. So I just go for the top rack. Enjoy the coming season and drive safe with lots of nice moments on the bike as well with your family.
if you don't look back at it as you walk away then that bike isn't for you.
So true 👏🏻🔥
A very interesting video. I've had my World Raid for a couple of weeks and like the look of the Daytona grips you have. Did you connect them to the built-in Tenere harness, and if so which connector did you use on the bike? +1 for the Black Widow exhaust, I've got one fitted and like it a lot.
Thank you mate. Well, I bought the Daytona grips from my local dealer, and they had it fitted to the bike on the 1000 service. So I don't know where they attached it. They also routed the wire for my GPS in the same wire or plug as far as I know. The black widdow exhaust sounds amazing on this bike. Cheers
'Great review, is there not enough adjustment in the rear brake pedal to sort it? Nice deep sound from the Black Widow. Is that de-Cat or with Cat?
Thank you James... I have not looked more into this yet, but I hope to sort it out now when winter hits us. This is the black widow with cat. That is plenty enough. More than this would probably just be to loud 🙈🤣
very good review. one ting would be very good to know also is how long is the service interval on vales vs ktm ?
I think the valves need to be check at 40K on the Yamaha and 30K on the KTM, but that is just from the top of my head, not done any research about it.
Australia is still waiting. Apparently, early next year. Yeah, great, buy this years model next year. Hope it’s priced accordingly. 2022 year bike in 2023. Thanks, Yamaha!
Still waiting 🙈 damn, i feel for you brother 👍🏻 i guess they run up the price since it is the only ones available 🤔
@@Freedom69881 What? How much more is that compared to the original T7?
@@Freedom69881 Here in Norway the T7 is 145K and the World Raid is 170K
Hi Thomas, hope you are keeping well.
I have recently tried the world raid, and wanted to get your opinion on how hot the knee grips on the fuel tank get? I estimate about 40°c.
And also do you find the clutch cover digs into your shin? As I found this a little uncomfortable.
Overall it is a stunning bike!
All the best my friend!
Ben 🇬🇧
I have never touch the knee grip pads to be honest, so i don’t know! Need to check that tomorrow! I don’t feel the clutch cover at all, i did feel it a little on the original T7, but not here! Maybe how i position my legs?
Cheers Ben 🤩🔥
As always : does the bike make you smile ? No ? Get rid of it. Yes ? It’s a keeper. The biggest grin on my face I had with my 30 year old GS. She just fits.
That is probably the best way to put it... if it makes you want to go out and ride, and you get a smile on the face when you put you leg over it... it is correct for you 👏🏻 Cheers
So Thomas, I’m thinking about a KTM and I just wondered what your thoughts would be…………. 🤣 the CP2 engine is a peach, so torquey and smooth compared to the KTM engine and it doesn’t really matter what gear your in, it will just get on with it. Sorry to see you dropped it, at least you’ve got that over and done with.
Hahahaha…. Go right ahead mate! It is probably the best thing you can do this year 🤣🤣🤣 i have no trust in the KTM anymore
dont buy KTM my Duke thorwing black smokes from exhaust at just 14K Kilomters. engine oil also leaks from engine head. if i were you i would never go for Europen motorcycles.
@@r-max4156 only joking, I know only to well your and Thomas’s experiences with the KTM products unfortunately. The T7 isn’t the best bike in its class, but it is very good and pretty dam reliable, I like reliable.
@@hovishill2779 turag 660 has all the features T7 misses like cruise control, tubeless alloys from factory. And the problem is reliability 😁
Great video as usual! Do you miss the quickshifter (up/down)?
Hello Max, no I dont miss the quick shifter at all... but I really miss the cruise control 🙈
@@tshansen interesting! Thanks for your reply. I fear I would miss the blipper dearly. Cruise control on the other hand doesn't see too much use. Mostly on the Autobahn or boring stretches of rather straight roads, which I try to avoid whenever possible :D I wish you lots of fun with the new bike!
The speed limits in Norway are crazy and when riding into minor towns etc, it is Nice to just flip on the cruise control and don’t have to check the speedo every 5 sec 🙈🤩
I think changeing the air filtee will be a pain in the ass
The Air filter is quite easy to change, it is right under the seat
I just keep coming back to why not a Beta or SWM 500? Even the KLX300SM would work just about as well. SWM has big tank options now.
Well, for me, who travels a lot on road and gravel adventures, a smaller bike is just not a option. It is so damn uncomfortable to ride longer days/trips 🤭
... the bolts with the torx option should be on hole motorcycle .... those are mixt torx + hex :) not only torx ... its good to have more options
I agree… not a huge fan of a good mix like on this bike.
Great review, confirmed what I have heard over and over about the KTMs. Did you do a weight comparison on the stock muffler vs the Blackwidow (300mm?).
Thank you mate, and I have heard most of those stories my self about KTM, I just had to experience them for my self before I could believe it. Sorry, I did not weigh the exhaust. But the can was a couple of kg lighter for sure.
@@tshansen I would think so, just between that and changing to a Lithium battery you can save 5kg! You did convince me to keep the crash bars on the T7 i'm configuring though.. 😉
@@gradocchio hahaha! Yeah, a little battle scar to the plastic is not that bad 😉🙈😇
Thanks for the great video!
My WR is under 1000km service. Lot of same thoughts about the bike :) I had suspension service where oil's where changed and at least from short tests it feels even better.
Have you noticed that fuel meter is working correctly? I'm using Street theme and when fuel meter show last bar -> there's about 10 litres petrol left. At least in Finland I know few WR owners which has the same behaviour.
Thank you mate, did you change the oil in the WR or the regular T7?
Yeah, I have noticed this my self... it's down to the last bar I only have 300km on the trip counter. and I know there is 10L left. I'm not sure if this need to be calibrated or it is because of the new tanks?
@@tshansen 😀😀 So I'm not only one with this fuel meter "feature".
Bike is world raid :) Local service here @Oulu/Finland changed oil for front and rear suspension + setup suspension for my riding weight(105 kg). They commented that original suspension oil for WR is way better than normal T7.
Here's my setup:
Oil: Wp5 / Totaltek
Front shocks - oil level 120mm
- Preload spring - 19mm
- Rebound damping force - 10 open
- Compression damping force - 10 open
Rear shock - 18 bar
- Preload spring - 5 close (fully open and then 5 clicks)
- Rebound damping force - 10 open
- Compression damping force - 14 open
Default values can be found from owners manual. First impressions about this setup were that suspension worked way better than earlier. Even it was only 50km testing (half tarmac, half small playfull roads). Let see when I get more testing ..
BR Juhana
PS. I thought that I sent this message earlier, hopefully there's no spam/double messages :) 🤔
@@JuhanaHeikkala I have not seen this post before now... and I have to say. Thank you so much for this. Really valuable. I tried the same settings that Nomad Sweden did on his bike, and felt that was better that standard. Will try to compare it with your settings and see how it goes. Again, thank you so much 👏🏻
@@tshansen No probs!!! I wanted to have suspension which works well on off-road. Guy from service said that suspension could be even more softer, so 1-3 clicks more open. Today's setup feels good also on asphalt/tarmac.
Please let me know how it worked with your bike!!
You write "rear shock" 18 bar? what is that? You turn everything to reset and then click like the manual state yes?
In case no one has said it, modulate is the word you were looking for to operate the clutch a lot.
I got a tip about it could be feather the clutch but i guess modulate the clutch is the most correct term for it. Anyways, thank you for that.. sometimes i struggle to find the correct English words 😂
Yes feather too. Both are used.
Hello, great review I want to buy one now !
What is the fuel consumption ?
I can highly recommend it... The fuel consumption so far has been 0.4L = 10km But I'm riding it hard and don't mind high rpm. You could probably get it much lower if you used the gear smarter
Seeing you moving the suspension makes me curious. It looks really stiff and unresponsive. Like lots of friction betwenn the moving parts of fork and backend. Guess you will be good support from Rally Raid. Nice and objective video. Like it.
Well, you are not wrong. It had me thinking myself. I would love to try a T7 with upgraded suspension next to this and make a comparison. When you ride the bike, it feels quite ok... Will keep an eye out for videos on this topic in the future. Hope Adam find something useful at Rally Raid. Stay safe mate. Cheers
Looking good there. Reading all the comments below, and listening to your comments too, I never realised that KTM were so unreliable. If memory serves me correct, you were a little concerned about having inner tubes rather that tubeless tyres, is this still the case, notice there's no centre stand on the bike, maybe a daft option on a bike like this, with the ability to go most places. Will look forward to your first adventure. 👍👍🏍🏍
The KTM and the Norden 901 has to many flaws. It is crazy to see how many stories there are about leaking suspension, weak bolts, terrible headlight frame mounting. Warped discs. camshaft issues, etc. Indeed, I had huge concerns about tube tires. I see no point in it for my kind of riding. And the work you have to put in if you get a flat... djizes 🙈 Another thing I really miss on this bike.... cruise control. Damn I would love for that as well. My first adventure is not far ahead now 🤩 Cheers
@Black March This is true, and one of my many arguments to keep enjoying the 790 for more miles. But it is just not the case, it is a myth that we have created. Tell me please, what faster and lighter has to do with the headlight bracket on the frame? or coolant clamp that does not hold the coolant hoses sealed? Or not to mention the brake fluid lid?
We create these stories to justify our money spent on a bike that is a beta project from KTM. I have no doubt in my mind that KTM pushed this bike and took some serious savings on parts to make it cheap enough to compete in the market.
@Black March we completely agree 👏🏻🔥 i’m just a little mad they could not fix some of the many issues that would make this bike so much more reliable
Hello, congrats from Italy! Mine will be delivered this week. I have a couple of burning questions. Is the headlight protection the one from yamaha standard t700? My dealer tells me that the headlight for the wr has a different part number from the one in the standard, so he is not sure if the protection for the std will fit also the wr. I do also have the mosko nomad: do the forward attach interfere with the ohlins steering damper? For baseplate I ordered heavy duty from yamaha since aftermarket are not yet available. I also plan to transform to tubeless and then mount the dunlop trailmax mission which are reported to be a good half and half solution. Enjoy the bike!!
Hello mate, and congrats on ordering your new bike. Hope you get it as planed and there is now delays!
This is the standard T700 headlight protector that is mounted yes. It was a little bit tight fit, but it works like a charm. The Mosko Moto nomad bag does not interfere with the steering damper. If you see my other video, where I riding it in. you can see me attaching the tankbag to the bike. ruclips.net/video/Ijkl0HIW8uw/видео.html Maybe this can give you an idea of how it will fit your bike. I have not yet tried the dunlop tires, but I will one day. Enjoy your new bike as well mate. Stay safe 🔥 Cheers
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My dream bike. Enjoy :)
Thank you mate, i’m enjoying every second of it. Hope you get yours one day as well. Cheers
Exhaust and tail tidy install video
Well.... the exhaust is 1 bolt and two exhaust clamps. Not much making a video about 🙈 the tail tidy is already done, so I won't be touching that again in a while. So, I'm sorry 😇
Hi Thomas, I have a question which is not covered in this video: the cooling of the T7. Now is summer, is the T7 cooling is good enough in this hot weather in slow speeds? Am i remember correctly, you owned a 690 too? Have you ever problem whith the cooling of the 690? (for the comperison)
Good question mate.... I have noticed the fan kicking in a couple of times on the T7, but have not had any issues with the heating yet. But keep in mind, I have not been stuck in the forrest or in muddy conditions over longer time. So I need to get back to you on this at a later time. Yes I did own the 690, I did not have heating issues on that bike either, helped a lot with a slip on exhaust. But I was much more careful on the 690 related to heat.
@@tshansen I asked because i own a 701 (which is almost like a 690), and i have problems with the cooling, it is not efficient enough.
@@BladeRicsi I remember I had a booster plug on my 690, that helped with some. I remember I had to mount a temp reader high up where the air intake are behind the plastic cover on the side.
Those bolts you pointed out are hex and torx
Yeah but still different from the other bolts on the bike? do you know why?
@@tshansen some are plastic half turn(black),others are standard threaded screws
It sounds like the rebound/compression settings are not ideal. The forks should absorb with ease smaller bumps and harden when compressing faster and longer in the fork stroke (when for example you jump or hit a deep pothole). Play with the clickers.
P.S. I've never ridden that bike but, from what I hear, everyone says that the suspension is tuned on the very soft side. Maybe a different rate spring for the rear for over 80-85 kgs riders and stiffer springs in the forks for more aggressive riding? I wonder.
I have not played around with a new spring yet, but I consider changing the one in the rear. The problem is, I'm no expert on this, and have no clue what to feel for? everything I do feels different, but I don't know if it is different good or different bad. I probably need someone who knows that they doing to take a run with it and see what they can figure out. Yeah, when I ride on the track the suspension is soft, but not to soft. The small bumps feels much more stiff. even if I have played with the clickers it still are like this.
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Personally I would take your suspension comments with a grain of salt. It appears you have not touched the clickers or set the sag. I could tell by your words and demonstration. I would bet once properly set up that the world raid would be extremely close if not equal to the KTM. Once those are set up for your weight and riding style the suspension feel will be vastly improved. It seems way too early if not irrelevant to make comparisons to the KTM or others until yours is sorted. Do you agree?
That being said, the production quality and continent of your videos is top notch, keep them coming.
I have touch the clickers, i have tried to set it up! I run with the standard settings, then i tried the same setup as nomad sweden did in his video, and adjustet to my liking! I have not set the correct sag with luggage yet, so take it for what it’s worth! But it is not equal to the KTM. Guess how i know 😉😇
My apologies, you didn’t indicate that you had tried adjusting. KTM‘s do have great suspension but they need tweaking and setting as well. KYBs are top notch. Yours is the first negative that I have heard regarding the suspension in 20+ videos and reviews. Hopefully you can get that sorted out and report back to us as to what you did and what needed fixing.
@@stevebiron3036 I see now that I edited that out of the video, I don't state that the suspension is bad. I just state that I found the suspension on the KTM better. And yes, I had to adjust that as well... Remember I'm a tall guy, weigh in at 105kg and ride a lot with my reckless 80 setup. I need the suspension to be on point. And yes, the KYB is great suspension, but I have not tweaked it and tested it enough to conclude. And I'm no suspension guy, so I don't know all about the things and parts going on inside the cartridges. Every video I have seen. they compare it to the standard T7, that is a great improvement to the original suspension. Not once have I heard the compare it to KTM, Rally Raid or other suspensions 😉
Great video Thomas. Can you tell me plz which Mosko Reckless model do you use with Perun Luggage Rack, 80 L ou 40 L?
Thanks!
I have the Reckless 80 🙌🏻
It was nice to have a look at the dark side aswell! As a KTM ''fanboy'' I can say; Yes, the Yamaha sounds about 1000 times better than the KTM. I will think everything sounds better than the KTM, my bike sounds like 2 kgs of bolts and nuts in a zinc bucket, getting shaken heavily. 😁 Thanks for the review, definitely a interesting bike you got there. 👍
Right on! Hahahaha 🤣 I would not say I'm a KTM fanboy, but I really appreciate their bikes and all the stuff they do for the motorcycle community. And that they continue to push the limit in our favour. But I just had to go down the safer line this time around. And yes, I really do enjoy the Tenere it is a much better general Adventure bike for my use. Not that aggressive if it makes sense.
@@tshansen It makes perfectly sense. I have never been close to use the fully potential on the 890, its a agressive beast. When it comes to a safer line, I dont know what your speaking of. Isnt it normal to get stuck here and there, cause of empty coolant and stuff like that? 🤣 I got stuck this summer on TET Denmark all out of coolant, a fun experience I must say... So its with a feeling of horrifying joy that Im looking forward to this summers Southcape to Nortchcape trip with a 890 adv and a 790 adv. I mean, what can go wrong..?
@@B.Undrum Hahaha, be careful what you wish for. Before you know it you standing there with a leaking rear fork and ruined brake disc's 🙈
@@tshansen Pfffft! Who needs fork's and brakes anyway 🙈 Living on the edge you know 😂
@@B.Undrum YOLO 🤣👏🏻
I agree that the Pirelli Scorpion Rally STR is very good on tarmac but not as convincing on gravel roads. Curious to know what tires will you put on when the Pirellis are worn out?
So it's not just me then? It feels really weird on gravel. Not the confident feeling I get from the tkc80. I will be putting on a Tkc80 front tire, and I will probably mix between mitas e-07+ and mitas e-09 rear. That is a really great combination for my riding. Cheers
I put tkc80 on mine after 300 miles, had 3 sets of them and went to the mitas e13 and e09 for winter. tkc80 is a good tyre for the t7 all round use. even a tkc70 rocks on the back would be good for more road work.
Can you maybe do video on how the dual tank works. I'm very confused about it. Does it have 2 separate compartments? If not, why 2 caps?
Yes i kan make a video about this… the easy explanation is that if you want to top up your tank, you need to fill in both, the two tanks are connected when the ignition is on. But when you turn of power it will not self regulate.