the whole point of the T7 was not to put tech on it to keep price down. It's not needed off road. You'll find reliability in favour of Yamaha over time
👍 yup and I think this is a great decision. I would feel much more comfortable on the Yamaha off-road and on an "adventure" than on the Ducati! I personally prefer the basic/simple design of the Yamaha. Cheers
I love that Yamaha looks fantastic. I’ve had lots of Ducatis mainly Multistradas and the service costs kill me. Definitely the Yamaha for me in the future.
When I can ride the T7 at more than 80% throttle for 80% of my normal ride time I may consider a higher spec bike.....or I could just upgrade the power a bit. Suspension is faster than horsepower when you're offroad.
the price on these thing is ridiculous. And I'm not just talking about the bike but the accessories too...with that said ..this bike is amazing though. It feels like a big dirt bike and the electronics give you so much customization as well as no annoying mode interfaces(you can change no abs on the fly). I honestly couldn't be happier with the bike and aftermarket is catching up fast to kill the oem cost.
@@shaunefoster6694youre not gonna be riding a tenere or any 600+cc bike at 80% or more throttle, 80% of the time, unless you live somewhere where you are surrounded with highways and great plains
Personally I'd choose the least tech bike to go where these bikes are meant to go. For that reason I'd take the standard or rally T7 all day long over a BMW, Honda Africa Twin or Ducati. My second choice would be a Suzuki V Strom, but that's too heavy. Weight and tech is your enemy as conditions get tougher and more remote.
I completely agree 👍 For real off road adventures I would 100% take the Yamaha T7 WR, the GS etc.. all too heavy. However if mainly on road then I would have a GS etc...!
Vendi a minha Ducati Desert X e Comprei a Ténéré modelo 2022, o primeiro modelo, muito melhor, pelo menos para mim. Meti-lhe Kit de suspensão Ohlins e ficou com um comportamento excelente, tanto em estrada como off-road. Apliquei-lhe também, o kit Rally e mais uns quantos extras. Já tive muitas motos, de estrada, de competição, do monte, mas a ténéré é a minha preferida de sempre! Cumprimentos a todos, abraço de Portugal...
Hi Marcos, apologies for my lack of Portuguese! I was really impressed with the Tenere 700, such a great bike for off road adventures. Sounds like you have kitted yours out really nicely. It is close for me, but I would take the Tenere over the Ducati 👍 Hope you enjoy your bike.
@@Rust_valley_adventures Money was not the issue. What I gained was a more agile motorcycle, with less fuel consumption and that doesn't let me stay in the middle of the mountain with electronic problems 200km from home. Plus a top-of-the-range suspension to add. And who needs off-road electronics ?! Who needs electronics on a big trail! :)
@@Rust_valley_adventures Money was not the issue. What I gained was a more agile motorcycle, with less fuel consumption and that doesn't let me stay in the middle of the mountain with electronic problems 200km from home. Plus a top-of-the-range suspension to add. And who needs off-road electronics?! Who needs electronics on a big trail?!
Judging by your joyful noises I would definitely think about test riding one.. You could do what I do and shout Achiles at the top of your voice...good for the soul! Nice video! Cheers Angus
World Raid hands down!! reliability and simplicity should be high on the list for an adventure bike. If you need bulk rider modes clearly you aren't that much of a rider keep it simple gang and enjoy the adventure.
It was a pleasure to do, glad you liked it 👍 Yes I am currently trying to organise a review of the Aprilia, on the way soon hopefully! Good looking bike.
yeh i agree with other comments here the yamy will out live everything in the class, i like how they kept it low tech, pretty important if were out the middle of now where and a bike breaks down
Mates have them both, ridden them both quite a bit. Each have strong points as you said in the video - pretty much nailed it mate. The Yamaha is smaller, less power, but better off road. Limited tech which will appeal to the off roader crowd. The Ducati is faster, more powerful and loaded with tech and expensive extras such as side tanks - bars and loads of things you can buy in the configurator which can take it to well over £18,000 close to fully spec'd out. I would say the Ducati is a better bike for 50/50 road/off road, the Tenere is better if you want to spend a bit more time off road than on road. Both great bikes for the money IMO. good looking too !
Hey, many thanks glad you found the points relevant 👍 Yup I think I would still go with the Yamaha just because of its simplicity and slightly more off road biased ability. If I wanted a bike for more on road I would look at a GS or something similar! As you say though, both brilliant bikes and I love the looks of both, especially the retro design of the Ducati 😁 Cheers
Fully loaded with he offroad ducati parts is 15000 to 16000 if you want the new 2023 colour scheme although most dealers are doing a 500 pound discount on them
There is only one issue I have with the Tenere and that is it' filling me with confidence that might be too much. I am not a very good rider and specially not a good one offroad, but I keep riding longer and relaxed on road and more tricky offroad. I fell once. I feel great about it, both me and Tenere where unscathed, and we just keep going and going until the E fuel gauge started blinking, saying, come back to civilisation ...
haha that is very honest of you to admit 👍 I have very little experience off road, but I found it so easy on this bike. It really does fill you with confidence, which I think is a testament to how good it is. Good to hear that you were not hurt. Cheers
@@redangrevival that is the thing about riding, it’s not work, it’s not social BS, it’s not Politically correct, it’s not environmentally acceptable. But what it is true, you, machine, nature with all that sight, smell and sound, like sitting on a Bumblebee CGI, except it’s real.
I borrowed the Desert X when my Panigale was in for service. I tried the standard Desert X last year and the Rally this year. I so nearly got the standard bike. The Rally is a big step for off road with way better suspension (I didn’t tell Ducati I went off road LOL), but it’s 18K! For a bike I’m going to chuck down the trails? Noooooo! So in the end I’m getting the World Raid, pick it up in a couple of days 🎉
I agree with everything you say! Its just too much money to bin it off roading. WR is a brilliant bike and I think probably stronger off road as well 👍
Good review, a suggestion to getting more off road action , join your local TRF, you will be amazed at the amount of green lanes on your doorstep. Went to a Horizons Unlimited event a few years ago and rode all over the Brecon Beacons for a couple a days, what a great bunch of people in an amazing place. Im buying the Ducati 👍👍👍
Hi Andy, many thanks I appreciate it and glad you enjoyed the review 👍 Thats great thanks for the suggestion, will definitely look into that 😁 Would love to do some off roading, would be brilliant!! Nice congratulations on your bike, a fantastic motorcycle and sure you will have some amazing times on it! Cheers
@@redangrevival your frame rates must ALWAYS be half of shutterspeed. 60fps need 1/120 shutterspeed . 24fps or 25fps need 1/50 shutterspeed. This is no1 rule of smooth footage. Maybe you have to buy nd filter for dayshoots. Check those things and you ll have superb quality at your videos. Trust me!
The Ducati is way better looking, but I'd trust the Yamaha for longevity, reliability and the cost savings. Plus the lighter weight makes more sense if you plan on actually using it has intended. Definitely go with the Yamaha out of the two.
👍 I completely agree with you. The Yamaha just makes more sense if you are on a budget and really planning on using it for some serious off roading/adventures. I do love that Ducati though!
Cagiva (what Ducati's Desert X is based on) is actually knock off of Honda's Africa Twin's 1980's design. But I love the modern look of Ducati - its sleek.
@@redangrevival Agreed. I hope to see more of modern interpretation of retro styling.
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I don't have any experience offroad/adventure except with T7, I think I rode some 12 tours by 400+km each, also 2 days - 700+km - I took the bike from my buddies - I have not got my own yet,... but what can I say, I had no single issue with the bike yet. I can tell that I jumped on a front wheel one time, because of abs on... and crashed with my helmet to the windshield - the plastic parts supporting the windshield broke, those were fragile, with about 0.5sq cm cross-section each, just I think it was a good thing, because more rigid stellar could lead to a serious, maybe a life-threatening injury. Replacement of parts cost only 140$ so I am happy that I was healthy and ready to move on with the windshield strapped at the back, and I could continue my journey as planned.
Pricing in Australia has not been released yet, but I agree with you, based on the standard T7 pricing, the World Raid will probably cost as much as the Desert X
Hi, do you have any idea how the Ténéré WR compares to the KTM 890 Adventure R? The most critisized point of the standard ténéré was the suspention, and I'd love to know how well the upgraded model now holds up compared to the class-leading KTM.
Appreciate the review between the 2! But no offense, after you said your not much of an offroader I kind of discredit your opinion. Not entirely!..but that's what information I'm looking for is someone who is a seasoned offroad rider. not knocking you at all brother! Your the only video I could find between the 2. I own a ddx and ride aggressive(experienced in enduro dirtbike). Cheer brother! 🇺🇸 🇬🇧 🇮🇹🍻
No worries all! Yup fair enough, if you are an experienced off roader then my opinion on the off road side of things may not mean too much to you. All good and hope you find the bike you want 👍
Well interesting not minding the looks on this one Angus I do like it in black I think the issue I have with the looks of these things is the screen and fairing area around it the rest is fine .Not for me though I would rather go down the GS/Tiger route for adventure if it were not for the price which is somewhat important 😁good one mate well put out 👌
Thanks, appreciate it, glad you liked it 👍 Yup to be honest I would probably have a GS etc... However as a second bike this really would get me thinking!! It was just sooo much fun off road, and I think better off road that the GS etc... Yet another niche in the motorcycle world that I love haha. Cheers
Hi there Redang, great review and i have to agree that out of the two bikes i would choose the Yamaha . The split fuel tanks look so cool and very paris Dakar esq, and in the real world it makes more sense as an every day bike to take out. Also that black edition with the gold KYB forks looks so sick! Great stuff.
Hi Gary, many thanks really pleased you liked the review 👍 Cool, yup I really enjoyed the Yamaha more, love the Ducati still, but you are spot on. As an every day bike the Yamaha just makes more sense. I think I would just end up looking at the Ducati and be scared to take it off road! Love this style of. motorcycle 😁 Cheers
Great review 👍 2nd video I've watched on your channel. I think for myself id chuck some Bridgestone AT41 tyres on it.lets face it,95% of owners will only ride on the road or sample a basic dirt road.dont need a load of tech for a 700, everything else you need can be purchased for a fraction of the cost of the Duc.Unless your good with the spanners don't forget to chuck in a belt change every few years regardless if its been used or not😉 Keep up the good work 👍
Many thanks I appreciate it, glad you enjoyed the review 👍 Yes some more road focused tyres would be a good idea, unless you really are buying it for some off roading! Love the simplicity of the T7, awesome bike. Cheers
I like the price point on theTenere7 I wonder if the US will get the World Raid Edition? Also the valve work on the Ducati I would think would be really expensive (really all of cost of ownership)
Hey, yup the Tenere 7 price is much more affordable and sensible than the Ducati. I loved the Ducati but it is very expensive. Also I have had the Yamaha CP2 engine before and they are just so reliable 👍 All round value for money, I would go for the Tenere 👍
The Ducati wins on tech and power, but the T700WR is not really in the same category as the Ducati, or many others like it. Only the Aprilla could be considered a direct competitor, same sort of power and weight, but the Aprilla is an unknown when it comes to reliability, whereas the T7 is pretty rock solid for reliability (apart from the corroded spokes). Looks wise, the world raid wins hands down to the Aprilla.
I don't know, they are both heavily off road biased motorcycles with very similar dimensions! That are designed for pretty much the same purpose. I suppose I would describe the Ducati as the more luxury option, just purely down to the extra tech available. However I don't think this makes the Ducati a better bike. I agree the T7 is definitely closer in comparison to the Aprilia though. Need to get my hands on the Aprilia to do a comparison review 👍
😂 I know exactly what you mean!! Purely because the Ducati is more expensive I would wonder what I am missing out on and if have went for the best option!! It takes a brave person to go for the lesser option!
You have 23litre tank at yamaha tenere 700 world raid vs africa twin crf1100 l 18l 300miles yamaha similar for my opinion high consumption engine if you can change front sprocket one teeth bigger maybe better
Thanks I appreciate it and glad you enjoyed the review 👍 To be honest I would go for the Tiger 900 Rally over the T7. However that is because I would use the bike mainly on road and I think the Tiger is a better road bike! For off road I thin the T7 is better
I rode both bikes and I'm a very experienced road / offroad rider and I ended up buying the Yamaha Tenere 700 World Raid, because offroad the Yamaha is way way better. However, the Ducati has it all over the Tenere if you want more power and onroad capability.... especially with the tech it comes with. Honestly, it comes down to this: If you are going to ride it 70% off-road and 30% on-road, go the Yamaha. If you want to go 70% on-road and 30% off-road, go the Ducati. Just something to consider; if you ware like me travelling around the Australian Outback... the tech in the Ducati is a relative disadvantage... you want something simple and easy to fix yourself, something that works every time *Yamaha*
Great review! There seems to be a growing trend for simpler, lower cc bikes and they do seem less intimidating and more enjoyable to just jump on and ride. After all, isn't that what it's all about? Would you say this is comfortable enough for long distances and capable of carrying luggage?
Thanks Lily 👍 Yes well observed, I quite like that trend. The Ducati DesertX is a fast bike on road, however I would have the simpler less powerful Yamaha! There really is something to be said for a simple and enjoyable motorcycle. Much like the Triumph T100, just simple and friendly power. Yes I would definitely say the Yamaha T7 is comfortable enough for long distances and for carrying luggage, no problem at all. It would be a great touring bike. The seat height is quite high though 😉
Yes, is a bit high for me, was asking for a friend who's thinking about adventure bikes. Advised him to watch your channel. As I mentioned your channel on his, I'd better do the same for him, EpicAdam Motovlogs, a popular North Devon rider😉 Thanks 😘
@@lilynorthover8378 👌 ok!! Its a great bike, highly recommend it. Thanks I appreciate the recommendation. Cool I will check out hie channel, always stay loyal to the locals! Cheers
Great review as ever. To me, there’s just too much fuss with twin tanks and only 23 litres to show for it. Needless complexity. The Desert X does it way better with the auxiliary tank, ok a pricy option. I’d say the Ducati is worth the extra but still like the T7. Both are potentials to replace my ATAS but not for a year or two.
True I don't suppose it is really necessary to have the twin fuel tanks, however I do like the look of them!! Hopefully they wouldn't be an issue for reliability. I do also really like the Ducati aux tank as well, great idea 👍
@@redangrevival In a way form over function. The KTM 990 twin tanks looked superb but the T7 too close together and look contrived. All said and done most don’t need mega range but I got used to 350 miles between fill ups on the GSA. Often weeks!
@@Rossi593 Yup love the look of the KTM 990 👍 haha that is a luxury with the GSA!! My Speedmaster has a 12 litre tank. I am at the garage every other day!!
Interesting comparison given the Duke's significant price and power premium. The WR looks totally cool and most average riders will be able to extract and enjoy a far greater percentage of its fullest capabilities on and off road than the DX. And let's not forget the Ducati's servicing costs; probably beyond the riding abilities of most people's wallets!
Yes, they are different on specs thats for sure, but two bikes aimed at doing very similar things! I don't think the Ducati is that far ahead of the Yamaha for what they are build for. Like you say the Yamaha will be much easier to use for most people.
Servicing cost is £200 then £300 and Desmo service is £600 at 18000 miles , 4 year warranty on the desert x ans 9000 mile service intervals on the desert x and 2 year warranty on the tenere, better suspension on ducati , better brakes , better electronics, lower seat height on the ducati more bhp more torque
I never think I am the best judge of bikes, even the ones "I use"!! I just enjoy riding them and giving my humble point of view 😁 Apologies for the mis information with the auxiliary fuel tank, have a great week.
It’s just his take on how he finds riding a motorbike. It’s up to viewers to check out all the specs or you just watch the professionals do their take on them. If this irks you get out there and do your own testing might be the way to go.
Please define quality, mate! Premium "feel" does not equal quality. To me the Japanese understanding of quality is what makes me happy. That is premium from my point of view...especially when talking about bikes which you should take offroad. Reliability and simplicity rule! Yamaha all day!
👍 Thanks Sergio, really pleased you liked the review. Yes the Ducati does have a lot more tech, so that does explain the price difference a bit. However take the price out of the equation and I think I would still take the Yamaha! Cheers
@@redangrevival thank you for your replay!! :) I think for serious offroad the new Yamaha T7WR is the choice... for people who willl use more on street and sometimes travel on and off road ... the Ducati will be the choice...much better for travel, ..power, cruise control, quick shift , the seat is more comfy ..etc. different costumers ,...
Agreed, however to have tubeless tyres on a spoked wheel would bump the overall price up. I guess Yamaha are trying to build the bike at a cost. Also there is always the option of changing a tube.
Tenere probably has a lot less chance of morphing into limp mode that Ducati’s are so well known for .. when you really get the meaning of ‘middle of nowhere’ & I am in so much ferking shit.
its not really comparable with the Ducati - I think the aprilla 660 more - the Ducati has the power for on road much more and with the option of the rear tank it takes it to a whole other level - the Yamaha is good but if I'm going to focus on off road only I think the KTM 500 will smoke the T7 everywhere as it only weighs 238 pounds!
Yes I suppose it is more similar to the Aprilia 660. I personally really liked the T7, think it is a great balance of off road and off road capability. I look forward to testing the Aprilia 👍
Yes it has substantially less tech than the Ducati. Although I think bearing in mind what this bike was primarily designed for I personally wouldn't miss cruise control. Would be nice for long motorway trips though.
@@redangrevival Of course you can ride without cruise control but it's just so nice to rest your wrist and fingers. Atleast my fingers start to cramp after riding for an hour or so on a motorway, especially if it's a bit colder. I guess you can use those throttle locks etc.
@@Xerdoz I know where you are coming from, I love a bit of cruise control haha I just think on this bike it may detract from it's off-road focused set up. Just personal opinion.
@@jakaberdajs4378 I personally see them as both capable of very similar things. Both great off road and both good for touring. Although as mentioned in the video the Ducati is better for long touring on road. It may not be quite as a ridiculous comparison as you suggest!
If the T7 raid has 90hp if be all over it. sadly 72hp at the crank doesn't cut it. Sure the KTM 890 R build quality is crap but it's bang on with 105hp.
@@redangrevival if I change I'd be coming from a KTM 1290 Super adventure R with 160hp. Lots about the Yamaha WR700 interests we but dropping that much power will be hard. 100ish is fine. Any less and road work is borning
Yamaha engine will definitely last longer than the ducati.Yamaha don't tweek the engine to the limit so engine is never stressed. Yamaha all day for me.😂
For longer journeys on road I agree. However considering this bike was primarily designed for off road adventures, I am not too sure how necessary cruise control is. Just personal opinion and I suppose what you want to use the bike for.
Completely agree 👍 I think for the purpose that these bikes where designed for the Yamaha has the better and more sensible specification. The less unnecessary tech the better for off roading!
mmm, you are not a offroad pilot, You said that. So your opinion is not very reliable. And, repet the comment: Honestly, I don't understand this type of reviews. You are basically saying that the Ducati is better at everything, but you would choose the Yamaha. Let me rephrase the reasons for choosing the Yamaha: Less power Less tech and features Less premium feeling Better looking (personal taste) Really???
Bikes are not just bought from statistics and figures. It is a personal preference, and how the bike makes you feel when riding it. I prefer the Yamaha. Also the price!
Adam Riemann …Horsepower is not King. Watch this video, obvious to the experienced off road rider but interesting never the less. Electronics and marshland followed by dust and rocks are not a good match. Riding a bike along a farm track is not riding “off road” in real terms, nor is it an adventure. Many of these so called adventure bikes should be re classified to “All terrain touring bikes.” An adventure to many is a trip to visit the mother in law when you’ve been caught out cheating!!!
@@redangrevival with 3k you save u will buy another toys for your tenere paal!! Italians are good in pizza, pasta, vintage comedies but motorcycles....too much softwares
Honestly, I don't understand this type of reviews. You are basically saying that the Ducati is better at everything, but you would choose the Yamaha. Let me rephrase the reasons for choosing the Yamaha: Less power Less tech and features Less premium feeling Better looking (personal taste) Really???
Not better at everything at all, it just has more of it. More is not always better!! I prefer the simplicity/friendlier power train, less tech to worry about, more of a raw riding experience. I found the Ducati to be a bit "viby" I prefer the CP2 engine.
@@redangrevival This is exactly what I fail to understand in many reviews. You can tame the Ducati by using different riding modes, but you can't increase the power on the T7 when you want it. You can turn all electronics aids off on the Ducati, but you can't turn them on on the T7. I appreciate the simplicity offroad (I ride a carburated dinosaur, aka DRZ400), but in this case, both bikes shares similar dimensions, weights and in some markets, similar price. I would love to test ride them back to back, but in my opinion the Ducati plays in a different league
Fair enough, I suppose it is just personal preference really. Taking the price into consideration I would have the Yamaha. There is just something about the Ducati that does not gel with me. They are different engines that have different power deliveries, I personally prefer the Yamaha CP2 for this intended set up. I see your points though!
Haha they are two bikes built for the same purpose in a category with not much other serious off road competition! Regardless of price. Have a lovely day and thanks is for your input!
@@Rust_valley_adventures You're a nice one! haha I am not embarrassed at all. Just so you know I used to ride motocross as a child, big jumps and all that fun stuff. Stay classy out there
@@redangrevival not from the way you back off soon as the rear end stepped out about 8 inches , pull the other one ffs , you said yourself you scared of the power of the DX , Maybe put it in enduro mode and drop the bhp to 75 bhp . 😅😅😅
@@Rust_valley_adventures Yes this was really more of a light hearted fun style review, it was not my bike and I did mention in the video I will not be doing much off roading with it. Apologies if it did not match your expectations.
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the whole point of the T7 was not to put tech on it to keep price down. It's not needed off road. You'll find reliability in favour of Yamaha over time
👍 yup and I think this is a great decision. I would feel much more comfortable on the Yamaha off-road and on an "adventure" than on the Ducati! I personally prefer the basic/simple design of the Yamaha. Cheers
Apart from the price isn't lower on the T7 Raid anymore like the original which made the model so appealing.
Price and WEIGHT(!). 220 kg vs 190 kg is quite the difference.
Will they be offering this bike in Canada?
And yet it costs 13k€ for which you could get a africa twin with cruise control, a big screen, and a lot more tec😅
I love that Yamaha looks fantastic. I’ve had lots of Ducatis mainly Multistradas and the service costs kill me. Definitely the Yamaha for me in the future.
👍 It is a brilliant bike, Yamaha are just so reliable and cost effective as well. Yes I bet the Ducati's drained the bank account a bit!
When I can ride the T7 at more than 80% throttle for 80% of my normal ride time I may consider a higher spec bike.....or I could just upgrade the power a bit. Suspension is faster than horsepower when you're offroad.
the price on these thing is ridiculous. And I'm not just talking about the bike but the accessories too...with that said ..this bike is amazing though. It feels like a big dirt bike and the electronics give you so much customization as well as no annoying mode interfaces(you can change no abs on the fly). I honestly couldn't be happier with the bike and aftermarket is catching up fast to kill the oem cost.
@@shaunefoster6694youre not gonna be riding a tenere or any 600+cc bike at 80% or more throttle, 80% of the time, unless you live somewhere where you are surrounded with highways and great plains
@@aaronphillips2728im still baffled at the fact that crashbars that are made from 50$ worth of metal, cost upwards of $800 😂😅😅😅
Personally I'd choose the least tech bike to go where these bikes are meant to go. For that reason I'd take the standard or rally T7 all day long over a BMW, Honda Africa Twin or Ducati. My second choice would be a Suzuki V Strom, but that's too heavy. Weight and tech is your enemy as conditions get tougher and more remote.
I completely agree 👍 For real off road adventures I would 100% take the Yamaha T7 WR, the GS etc.. all too heavy.
However if mainly on road then I would have a GS etc...!
I’ve never had tech fail on me. And usually if something tech-y goes wrong it won’t leave you stranded.
Any Japanese brand over euro. Reliability.
@@martyn_g This is very true! Japanese bikes are just so much more reliable 👌
Ktm 790/890 could be a good bike a few iterations down.
I have the World Raid, and find most of my riding is pootling and enjoying the Scottish scenery.
Absolute perfection 👌
T7 all the way just based on reliability and dealer support alone.
👍 I am with you on that one. So reliable, which is especially good when planning to go off road and exploring.
Vendi a minha Ducati Desert X e Comprei a Ténéré modelo 2022, o primeiro modelo, muito melhor, pelo menos para mim. Meti-lhe Kit de suspensão Ohlins e ficou com um comportamento excelente, tanto em estrada como off-road. Apliquei-lhe também, o kit Rally e mais uns quantos extras. Já tive muitas motos, de estrada, de competição, do monte, mas a ténéré é a minha preferida de sempre! Cumprimentos a todos, abraço de Portugal...
Hi Marcos, apologies for my lack of Portuguese! I was really impressed with the Tenere 700, such a great bike for off road adventures. Sounds like you have kitted yours out really nicely. It is close for me, but I would take the Tenere over the Ducati 👍 Hope you enjoy your bike.
So after you put all the ohlins on the
Your T7 raid its same price as a desert x with the ducati offroad extra parts 😅😅
@@Rust_valley_adventures Money was not the issue. What I gained was a more agile motorcycle, with less fuel consumption and that doesn't let me stay in the middle of the mountain with electronic problems 200km from home. Plus a top-of-the-range suspension to add. And who needs off-road electronics ?! Who needs electronics on a big trail! :)
@@redangrevival Yes i really enjoy it. Merry Christmas!
@@Rust_valley_adventures Money was not the issue. What I gained was a more agile motorcycle, with less fuel consumption and that doesn't let me stay in the middle of the mountain with electronic problems 200km from home. Plus a top-of-the-range suspension to add. And who needs off-road electronics?! Who needs electronics on a big trail?!
Getting my World Raid next week. Can't wait!
Enjoy, they are awesome
Judging by your joyful noises I would definitely think about test riding one..
You could do what I do and shout Achiles at the top of your voice...good for the soul!
Nice video!
Cheers Angus
👍 well worth a test ride, it certainly made me make some funny noises! 😂😂 "Achiles" I love that!! Definitely going to try that next time. Cheers
World Raid hands down!! reliability and simplicity should be high on the list for an adventure bike. If you need bulk rider modes clearly you aren't that much of a rider keep it simple gang and enjoy the adventure.
Thanks for the review. Really curious how it compares to the aprilia Tuareg 660.
It was a pleasure to do, glad you liked it 👍 Yes I am currently trying to organise a review of the Aprilia, on the way soon hopefully! Good looking bike.
yeh i agree with other comments here the yamy will out live everything in the class, i like how they kept it low tech, pretty important if were out the middle of now where and a bike breaks down
👍 Exactly one of the main reasons I liked it. They are just so reliable and a bike of this design does not need all that tech!!
Mates have them both, ridden them both quite a bit. Each have strong points as you said in the video - pretty much nailed it mate. The Yamaha is smaller, less power, but better off road. Limited tech which will appeal to the off roader crowd. The Ducati is faster, more powerful and loaded with tech and expensive extras such as side tanks - bars and loads of things you can buy in the configurator which can take it to well over £18,000 close to fully spec'd out. I would say the Ducati is a better bike for 50/50 road/off road, the Tenere is better if you want to spend a bit more time off road than on road. Both great bikes for the money IMO. good looking too !
Hey, many thanks glad you found the points relevant 👍 Yup I think I would still go with the Yamaha just because of its simplicity and slightly more off road biased ability. If I wanted a bike for more on road I would look at a GS or something similar!
As you say though, both brilliant bikes and I love the looks of both, especially the retro design of the Ducati 😁 Cheers
Fully loaded with he offroad ducati parts is 15000 to 16000 if you want the new 2023 colour scheme although most dealers are doing a 500 pound discount on them
What a fun review Redang. Really enjoyed it.
Hi, thanks so much that is great to hear 👌😁 Really pleased you enjoyed that one. I certainly had a great time!! Thanks
There is only one issue I have with the Tenere and that is it' filling me with confidence that might be too much. I am not a very good rider and specially not a good one offroad, but I keep riding longer and relaxed on road and more tricky offroad. I fell once. I feel great about it, both me and Tenere where unscathed, and we just keep going and going until the E fuel gauge started blinking, saying, come back to civilisation ...
haha that is very honest of you to admit 👍 I have very little experience off road, but I found it so easy on this bike. It really does fill you with confidence, which I think is a testament to how good it is. Good to hear that you were not hurt. Cheers
@@redangrevival that is the thing about riding, it’s not work, it’s not social BS, it’s not Politically correct, it’s not environmentally acceptable. But what it is true, you, machine, nature with all that sight, smell and sound, like sitting on a Bumblebee CGI, except it’s real.
@@TallRider101 100% 👌so well said! Haha riding a bumblebee CGI. Love it
I borrowed the Desert X when my Panigale was in for service. I tried the standard Desert X last year and the Rally this year. I so nearly got the standard bike. The Rally is a big step for off road with way better suspension (I didn’t tell Ducati I went off road LOL), but it’s 18K! For a bike I’m going to chuck down the trails? Noooooo!
So in the end I’m getting the World Raid, pick it up in a couple of days 🎉
I agree with everything you say! Its just too much money to bin it off roading. WR is a brilliant bike and I think probably stronger off road as well 👍
Good review, a suggestion to getting more off road action , join your local TRF, you will be amazed at the amount of green lanes on your doorstep. Went to a Horizons Unlimited event a few years ago and rode all over the Brecon Beacons for a couple a days, what a great bunch of people in an amazing place. Im buying the Ducati 👍👍👍
Hi Andy, many thanks I appreciate it and glad you enjoyed the review 👍
Thats great thanks for the suggestion, will definitely look into that 😁 Would love to do some off roading, would be brilliant!! Nice congratulations on your bike, a fantastic motorcycle and sure you will have some amazing times on it! Cheers
You have to do something with your frame rates of your gopro footage cause is glitchy..isnt watchable when you ride..
First time I have heard that, but thanks for the feedback! I am at 60fps 4K.
@@redangrevival your frame rates must ALWAYS be half of shutterspeed.
60fps need 1/120 shutterspeed .
24fps or 25fps need 1/50 shutterspeed.
This is no1 rule of smooth footage.
Maybe you have to buy nd filter for dayshoots. Check those things and you ll have superb quality at your videos.
Trust me!
@@kostasrestas 👌 Thanks I appreciate that. Will double check my settings!
The Ducati is way better looking, but I'd trust the Yamaha for longevity, reliability and the cost savings. Plus the lighter weight makes more sense if you plan on actually using it has intended. Definitely go with the Yamaha out of the two.
👍 I completely agree with you. The Yamaha just makes more sense if you are on a budget and really planning on using it for some serious off roading/adventures. I do love that Ducati though!
Cagiva (what Ducati's Desert X is based on) is actually knock off of Honda's Africa Twin's 1980's design. But I love the modern look of Ducati - its sleek.
@@LooxJJ A great looking bike. Love the retro styling 👍
@@redangrevival Agreed. I hope to see more of modern interpretation of retro styling.
I don't have any experience offroad/adventure except with T7, I think I rode some 12 tours by 400+km each, also 2 days - 700+km - I took the bike from my buddies - I have not got my own yet,... but what can I say, I had no single issue with the bike yet.
I can tell that I jumped on a front wheel one time, because of abs on... and crashed with my helmet to the windshield - the plastic parts supporting the windshield broke, those were fragile, with about 0.5sq cm cross-section each, just I think it was a good thing, because more rigid stellar could lead to a serious, maybe a life-threatening injury. Replacement of parts cost only 140$ so I am happy that I was healthy and ready to move on with the windshield strapped at the back, and I could continue my journey as planned.
In Australia they are the same price, which would you pick?
Coor that is a tough one!! Probably Ducati 😁
Pricing in Australia has not been released yet, but I agree with you, based on the standard T7 pricing, the World Raid will probably cost as much as the Desert X
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@@adriantompson yes, no ducati servicing lol
Awesome and love ur reviews
🙌 Thanks so much Dave. Really pleased you enjoy the reviews thats great to hear 😁. All the best
What bag is that on your steer? Looks really convenient.
Hi, it is actually a bag meant for bicycles! I got it from a store called Halfords in the UK.
Hi, do you have any idea how the Ténéré WR compares to the KTM 890 Adventure R? The most critisized point of the standard ténéré was the suspention, and I'd love to know how well the upgraded model now holds up compared to the class-leading KTM.
Hi, apologies but I have not ridden the R model so cannot say!
Appreciate the review between the 2! But no offense, after you said your not much of an offroader I kind of discredit your opinion. Not entirely!..but that's what information I'm looking for is someone who is a seasoned offroad rider. not knocking you at all brother! Your the only video I could find between the 2. I own a ddx and ride aggressive(experienced in enduro dirtbike). Cheer brother! 🇺🇸 🇬🇧 🇮🇹🍻
No worries all! Yup fair enough, if you are an experienced off roader then my opinion on the off road side of things may not mean too much to you. All good and hope you find the bike you want 👍
Aren’t heated grips an extra option for the world raid for the 2023?
Yes they are an option, apologies did I say they came standard?
Well interesting not minding the looks on this one Angus I do like it in black I think the issue I have with the looks of these things is the screen and fairing area around it the rest is fine .Not for me though I would rather go down the GS/Tiger route for adventure if it were not for the price which is somewhat important 😁good one mate well put out 👌
Thanks, appreciate it, glad you liked it 👍 Yup to be honest I would probably have a GS etc... However as a second bike this really would get me thinking!! It was just sooo much fun off road, and I think better off road that the GS etc...
Yet another niche in the motorcycle world that I love haha. Cheers
Could you tell us couple words about seat, it is more comfortable than standard t7?
Great rewiew, thanks
Hi to be totally honest I cannot remember correctly! Wouldn't want to give you the wrong advice, apologies
Good and real conclusion. T7 better as second bike. Well done!👍
Hi thanks so much I appreciate that 👍 The T7 just took the win for me. Cheers
@@redangrevival 🍻
Very nice video, I ride standard t7 and more than enough power off road, and smooth on road.
Many thanks I appreciate it and glad you enjoyed the video 👍 Absolutely great bike
You two just ripping the shit out of the world raids awesome 😂😂
Great review
Many thanks, I appreciate it 👍 Glad you enjoyed the review
I was about to buy the Ducati DesertX. I gave up as soon as I saw how difficult was to change the air filter.
Good to keep it simple!
Hi there Redang, great review and i have to agree that out of the two bikes i would choose the Yamaha . The split fuel tanks look so cool and very paris Dakar esq, and in the real world it makes more sense as an every day bike to take out. Also that black edition with the gold KYB forks looks so sick!
Great stuff.
Hi Gary, many thanks really pleased you liked the review 👍 Cool, yup I really enjoyed the Yamaha more, love the Ducati still, but you are spot on. As an every day bike the Yamaha just makes more sense.
I think I would just end up looking at the Ducati and be scared to take it off road! Love this style of. motorcycle 😁 Cheers
Great review 👍
2nd video I've watched on your channel.
I think for myself id chuck some Bridgestone AT41 tyres on it.lets face it,95% of owners will only ride on the road or sample a basic dirt road.dont need a load of tech for a 700, everything else you need can be purchased for a fraction of the cost of the Duc.Unless your good with the spanners don't forget to chuck in a belt change every few years regardless if its been used or not😉
Keep up the good work 👍
Many thanks I appreciate it, glad you enjoyed the review 👍 Yes some more road focused tyres would be a good idea, unless you really are buying it for some off roading! Love the simplicity of the T7, awesome bike.
Cheers
Hate tubed tyres but I’ll get over it 🏍💨🍻
I like the price point on theTenere7
I wonder if the US will get the World Raid Edition?
Also the valve work on the Ducati I would think would be really expensive (really all of cost of ownership)
Hey, yup the Tenere 7 price is much more affordable and sensible than the Ducati. I loved the Ducati but it is very expensive. Also I have had the Yamaha CP2 engine before and they are just so reliable 👍 All round value for money, I would go for the Tenere 👍
The Ducati wins on tech and power, but the T700WR is not really in the same category as the Ducati, or many others like it. Only the Aprilla could be considered a direct competitor, same sort of power and weight, but the Aprilla is an unknown when it comes to reliability, whereas the T7 is pretty rock solid for reliability (apart from the corroded spokes). Looks wise, the world raid wins hands down to the Aprilla.
I don't know, they are both heavily off road biased motorcycles with very similar dimensions! That are designed for pretty much the same purpose.
I suppose I would describe the Ducati as the more luxury option, just purely down to the extra tech available. However I don't think this makes the Ducati a better bike.
I agree the T7 is definitely closer in comparison to the Aprilia though.
Need to get my hands on the Aprilia to do a comparison review 👍
I’ve ridden both t7wr and the aprillia b2b. And the aprillia is fun but nothing more than that, it’s really a toy but not a good daily.
@@2wheels1guy25 👍 Thanks that is interesting to hear. Sounds like the Yamaha is the winner there!
@@redangrevival yep, on paper aprillia looks better but irl it’s the t7 ftw
Good point well made, the 890 /Norden would have perhaps been a better direct comparison, great vid though 👍
can't believe yamaha didnt put cruise control, quikshifter, heated grips on this no wonder why it's cheaper than the DUC.
Yes I think they are just trying to keep the costs down! Bit more of a basic off roader.
The whole point of the T7 is that it's a basic bike with as little frippery on it as possible, that's exactly why people buy them.
I know myself well enough to know that I would 100% go for the Yamaha then pull up alongside the Desert X and wish I had spent the extra… 😂
😂 I know exactly what you mean!! Purely because the Ducati is more expensive I would wonder what I am missing out on and if have went for the best option!!
It takes a brave person to go for the lesser option!
@@redangrevival digging deeper, I wonder how the different residuals would work out on both (my 'Man Maths' justification algorithym)
@@jamesalderson2512 Very good point!! I think the Yamaha will hold its value the best
You have 23litre tank at yamaha tenere 700 world raid vs africa twin crf1100 l 18l 300miles yamaha similar for my opinion high consumption engine if you can change front sprocket one teeth bigger maybe better
I am not too sure on the consumption figures but 23 litres seems like a big enough tank to me, especially for off road use.
Good review. Considering the price difference, would you choose the Triumph Tiger 900 over the Yamaha?
Thanks I appreciate it and glad you enjoyed the review 👍 To be honest I would go for the Tiger 900 Rally over the T7. However that is because I would use the bike mainly on road and I think the Tiger is a better road bike! For off road I thin the T7 is better
I rode both bikes and I'm a very experienced road / offroad rider and I ended up buying the Yamaha Tenere 700 World Raid, because offroad the Yamaha is way way better. However, the Ducati has it all over the Tenere if you want more power and onroad capability.... especially with the tech it comes with. Honestly, it comes down to this: If you are going to ride it 70% off-road and 30% on-road, go the Yamaha. If you want to go 70% on-road and 30% off-road, go the Ducati. Just something to consider; if you ware like me travelling around the Australian Outback... the tech in the Ducati is a relative disadvantage... you want something simple and easy to fix yourself, something that works every time *Yamaha*
That was exactly my thoughts when test riding the two. I actually really liked the simplicity of the Yamaha, and less tech is less to go wrong 👍
When do you go off road? Different video? Did you say Dakar
I don't go off road really!
Great review! There seems to be a growing trend for simpler, lower cc bikes and they do seem less intimidating and more enjoyable to just jump on and ride. After all, isn't that what it's all about? Would you say this is comfortable enough for long distances and capable of carrying luggage?
Thanks Lily 👍 Yes well observed, I quite like that trend. The Ducati DesertX is a fast bike on road, however I would have the simpler less powerful Yamaha!
There really is something to be said for a simple and enjoyable motorcycle. Much like the Triumph T100, just simple and friendly power.
Yes I would definitely say the Yamaha T7 is comfortable enough for long distances and for carrying luggage, no problem at all. It would be a great touring bike.
The seat height is quite high though 😉
Yes, is a bit high for me, was asking for a friend who's thinking about adventure bikes. Advised him to watch your channel. As I mentioned your channel on his, I'd better do the same for him, EpicAdam Motovlogs, a popular North Devon rider😉 Thanks 😘
@@lilynorthover8378 👌 ok!! Its a great bike, highly recommend it. Thanks I appreciate the recommendation.
Cool I will check out hie channel, always stay loyal to the locals! Cheers
Great review as ever. To me, there’s just too much fuss with twin tanks and only 23 litres to show for it. Needless complexity. The Desert X does it way better with the auxiliary tank, ok a pricy option. I’d say the Ducati is worth the extra but still like the T7. Both are potentials to replace my ATAS but not for a year or two.
True I don't suppose it is really necessary to have the twin fuel tanks, however I do like the look of them!! Hopefully they wouldn't be an issue for reliability.
I do also really like the Ducati aux tank as well, great idea 👍
@@redangrevival In a way form over function. The KTM 990 twin tanks looked superb but the T7 too close together and look contrived. All said and done most don’t need mega range but I got used to 350 miles between fill ups on the GSA. Often weeks!
@@Rossi593 Yup love the look of the KTM 990 👍 haha that is a luxury with the GSA!! My Speedmaster has a 12 litre tank. I am at the garage every other day!!
Standard T7 with Safari tank. Problem solved.
@@martyn_g You’re right. How did Yamaha make such a meal of it?
Interesting comparison given the Duke's significant price and power premium. The WR looks totally cool and most average riders will be able to extract and enjoy a far greater percentage of its fullest capabilities on and off road than the DX. And let's not forget the Ducati's servicing costs; probably beyond the riding abilities of most people's wallets!
Yes, they are different on specs thats for sure, but two bikes aimed at doing very similar things! I don't think the Ducati is that far ahead of the Yamaha for what they are build for. Like you say the Yamaha will be much easier to use for most people.
Servicing cost is £200 then £300 and Desmo service is £600 at 18000 miles , 4 year warranty on the desert x ans 9000 mile service intervals on the desert x and 2 year warranty on the tenere, better suspension on ducati , better brakes , better electronics, lower seat height on the ducati more bhp more torque
The Ducati extra tank is not just on the right hand side. Do you ever think you may not be the best judge of bikes you don't use?
I never think I am the best judge of bikes, even the ones "I use"!! I just enjoy riding them and giving my humble point of view 😁 Apologies for the mis information with the auxiliary fuel tank, have a great week.
It’s just his take on how he finds riding a motorbike. It’s up to viewers to check out all the specs or you just watch the professionals do their take on them. If this irks you get out there and do your own testing might be the way to go.
Yamaha CEO: "How can we improve on the T7 and sell more motorcycles?"
Yamaha Design Tech: "Give it tits?"
🤣🤣 It worked!!!
Please define quality, mate! Premium "feel" does not equal quality. To me the Japanese understanding of quality is what makes me happy. That is premium from my point of view...especially when talking about bikes which you should take offroad. Reliability and simplicity rule! Yamaha all day!
great Review...about the price...Ducati have much more extras than Yamaha, we can compare that
👍 Thanks Sergio, really pleased you liked the review. Yes the Ducati does have a lot more tech, so that does explain the price difference a bit. However take the price out of the equation and I think I would still take the Yamaha! Cheers
@@redangrevival thank you for your replay!! :) I think for serious offroad the new Yamaha T7WR is the choice... for people who willl use more on street and sometimes travel on and off road ... the Ducati will be the choice...much better for travel, ..power, cruise control, quick shift , the seat is more comfy ..etc. different costumers ,...
@@MrSergioRosario 👍 exactly right, I completely agree
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This is the motorcycle that Yamaha should have made from the start.
3:35 How tall are you mate?
5’9”
@@redangrevival Thanks! Just like me! :) Great vid btw!
I think its absolute shite that the World Raid version isn’t available in the US market.
I agree that is so unfortunate. Especially with the amazing off road tracks you have there! Hopefully it will be available soon 🤞
@@redangrevival @yamahamotorusa are you listening?
@@FTW1374 👌
Reliability, dealer support and cost of maintenance = YAMAHA!
🙌 They do a great job, and especially the CP2 engine is so reliable.
My local Yam dealer appears to be a cretin....
Why does Yamaha hate the USA? I want this bike!
Is it not available in the US? That is a shame.
The World Raid really needed tubeless wheels and a little more horsepower from the factory. Sure you can bend a rim, but not as likely as a puncture.
Agreed, however to have tubeless tyres on a spoked wheel would bump the overall price up. I guess Yamaha are trying to build the bike at a cost. Also there is always the option of changing a tube.
Need to throw the Aprilia Tuareg 660 in there.
👌 Absolutely, I am trying to schedule a ride on one. Will be a very interesting comparison.
No thanks, I want Yamaha reliability.
what a beauty
Tenere probably has a lot less chance of morphing into limp mode
that Ducati’s are so well known for .. when you really get the meaning of ‘middle of nowhere’
& I am in so much ferking shit.
The Yamaha T7 is unique.
its not really comparable with the Ducati - I think the aprilla 660 more - the Ducati has the power for on road much more and with the option of the rear tank it takes it to a whole other level - the Yamaha is good but if I'm going to focus on off road only I think the KTM 500 will smoke the T7 everywhere as it only weighs 238 pounds!
Yes I suppose it is more similar to the Aprilia 660. I personally really liked the T7, think it is a great balance of off road and off road capability. I look forward to testing the Aprilia 👍
I sure as hell woulden't go half way around the globe on an Italian made bike. No matter how sexy it appears.
Haha definitely trust the Yamaha more!
No cruise control. A 2022 bike without cruise isn't going on many world raids.
Yes it has substantially less tech than the Ducati. Although I think bearing in mind what this bike was primarily designed for I personally wouldn't miss cruise control. Would be nice for long motorway trips though.
@@redangrevival Of course you can ride without cruise control but it's just so nice to rest your wrist and fingers. Atleast my fingers start to cramp after riding for an hour or so on a motorway, especially if it's a bit colder. I guess you can use those throttle locks etc.
@@Xerdoz I know where you are coming from, I love a bit of cruise control haha
I just think on this bike it may detract from it's off-road focused set up. Just personal opinion.
Atlas trottle lock works very well 👌
Because no one ever travelled the world on a motorbike until CC was invented. 😅
Why the fuck would you compare this to the Desert X?
Because they are similar style bikes, built for the same purpose. Despite the price difference.
@@redangrevival na theyr not. Adventure tourers and adv bikes coukdnt be more different
@@jakaberdajs4378 I personally see them as both capable of very similar things. Both great off road and both good for touring. Although as mentioned in the video the Ducati is better for long touring on road.
It may not be quite as a ridiculous comparison as you suggest!
If the T7 raid has 90hp if be all over it. sadly 72hp at the crank doesn't cut it. Sure the KTM 890 R build quality is crap but it's bang on with 105hp.
Fair enough, it is down in power some what. I don’t mind personally!
@@redangrevival if I change I'd be coming from a KTM 1290 Super adventure R with 160hp. Lots about the Yamaha WR700 interests we but dropping that much power will be hard. 100ish is fine. Any less and road work is borning
Doesn't look "off road". No bumps and ruts or tree stumps.
I know it wasn't really that off road!! The best I could find in the local area. Great fun though 😁
You almost have to be Italian to want a Ducati.
Almost!! 😉
Yamaha all the way! No unreliable Italian crap!
haha fair enough!
Yamaha engine will definitely last longer than the ducati.Yamaha don't tweek the engine to the limit so engine is never stressed. Yamaha all day for me.😂
Agreed, so much more reliable 💪
For Adventure doesnt has cruise control is big no!!!
For longer journeys on road I agree. However considering this bike was primarily designed for off road adventures, I am not too sure how necessary cruise control is. Just personal opinion and I suppose what you want to use the bike for.
ducati tech = more to go wrong :-) Higher cost, higher expenses, higher service costs.
Yup I agree! I like the reliability and simplicity of the Yamaha 👍
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Japanese bikes are very reliable, Ducati will be Ducati, it's full of tech, no one can repair it if you are in the middle of Africa.
Completely agree 👍 I think for the purpose that these bikes where designed for the Yamaha has the better and more sensible specification. The less unnecessary tech the better for off roading!
mmm, you are not a offroad pilot, You said that. So your opinion is not very reliable. And, repet the comment: Honestly, I don't understand this type of reviews. You are basically saying that the Ducati is better at everything, but you would choose the Yamaha. Let me rephrase the reasons for choosing the Yamaha:
Less power
Less tech and features
Less premium feeling
Better looking (personal taste)
Really???
Bikes are not just bought from statistics and figures. It is a personal preference, and how the bike makes you feel when riding it. I prefer the Yamaha. Also the price!
Fine!@@redangrevival
Personally africa twin 1100 l better
👍 Fair enough, for long tours I would take an AT as well. However for off roading I would have this Yamaha!
Adam Riemann …Horsepower is not King. Watch this video, obvious to the experienced off road rider but interesting never the less. Electronics and marshland followed by dust and rocks are not a good match. Riding a bike along a farm track is not riding “off road” in real terms, nor is it an adventure. Many of these so called adventure bikes should be re classified to “All terrain touring bikes.” An adventure to many is a trip to visit the mother in law when you’ve been caught out cheating!!!
I got 40k w my tenere 0.0 issues and w my riding did record 3.35l/100km
avoid ducati
👍 That is good to hear, Yamaha are so reliable. It is especially good on this sort of bike as well. I would take the Yamaha over the Ducati!
@@redangrevival with 3k you save u will buy another toys for your tenere paal!!
Italians are good in pizza, pasta, vintage comedies but motorcycles....too much softwares
👌 haha good point, could spec the Tenere to the hilt!! And have some change left for a pizza and bottle of wine! Cheers
@@redangrevival 3k is plenty of money mate. Turn it into accessories, gasoline or whatever man. Honestly a lot for me
Honestly, I don't understand this type of reviews. You are basically saying that the Ducati is better at everything, but you would choose the Yamaha. Let me rephrase the reasons for choosing the Yamaha:
Less power
Less tech and features
Less premium feeling
Better looking (personal taste)
Really???
Not better at everything at all, it just has more of it. More is not always better!!
I prefer the simplicity/friendlier power train, less tech to worry about, more of a raw riding experience. I found the Ducati to be a bit "viby" I prefer the CP2 engine.
@@redangrevival This is exactly what I fail to understand in many reviews. You can tame the Ducati by using different riding modes, but you can't increase the power on the T7 when you want it. You can turn all electronics aids off on the Ducati, but you can't turn them on on the T7. I appreciate the simplicity offroad (I ride a carburated dinosaur, aka DRZ400), but in this case, both bikes shares similar dimensions, weights and in some markets, similar price. I would love to test ride them back to back, but in my opinion the Ducati plays in a different league
Fair enough, I suppose it is just personal preference really. Taking the price into consideration I would have the Yamaha. There is just something about the Ducati that does not gel with me. They are different engines that have different power deliveries, I personally prefer the Yamaha CP2 for this intended set up.
I see your points though!
What a nonsense comparaison, comparing Apple to Oranges.
Haha they are two bikes built for the same purpose in a category with not much other serious off road competition!
Regardless of price. Have a lovely day and thanks is for your input!
@@redangrevival T7 to be compared with Touareg 660 and Ducati with Africa Twins seems more relevant to me.
@@frd-kj5qu Ok each to their own 👍
You sound like bear grylls
Haha don't know if that is a compliment or not!! But thanks anyway 👍
@@redangrevival Not a bad thing, I’m a big fan of him. But I’m currently here enjoying your vids. Keep it up 🤙
👌 Cheers thanks so much, glad you are enjoying the vids.
Tubed tyres, no thanks.
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A review by someone who hasn't got a clue how to ride off road reviewing bikes built to go offroad, as usefull as a ashtray on a motorbike 😅😅😅
I enjoyed it 😁
@@redangrevival embarrassing review , go do a offroad novice weekend at sweet lamb off road center atleast
@@Rust_valley_adventures You're a nice one! haha I am not embarrassed at all.
Just so you know I used to ride motocross as a child, big jumps and all that fun stuff. Stay classy out there
@@redangrevival not from the way you back off soon as the rear end stepped out about 8 inches , pull the other one ffs , you said yourself you scared of the power of the DX , Maybe put it in enduro mode and drop the bhp to 75 bhp . 😅😅😅
@@Rust_valley_adventures Yes this was really more of a light hearted fun style review, it was not my bike and I did mention in the video I will not be doing much off roading with it.
Apologies if it did not match your expectations.
T7 offroad and Ducati if I wanted a few more paved miles.
Same, I agree 👍