Domain Expansion vs Bankai - Which Is Better?
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- For todays video ill be going over the similarities and differences between bankai from bleach and domain expansion from jujutsu kaisen , to come to a final conclusion on which ability format is truly overall better.
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Mixed up “bankai” and “domain expansion” a few times while speaking 😂
Now do them both vs reality marbles
i was thinking about this for awhile , when ichigo leaves his body he becomes a spirit or Ghost , what if Yoh From shamanking use ichigo as an oversoul , they would be really strong
Bankai is way better, the potential is limitless, and it has insane variety.
- You have Bankais that function like Domain Expansions from JJK.
- You have Bankais that function like Stands from JoJos.
- You have Bankais that function like Genjutsu from Naruto.
- You have Bankais that function like Devil Fruits & Haki from One Piece.
- You have Bankais that function like Hakai from Dragon Ball.
- You have Bankais that function like Magic from Fairy Tail / Black Clover / Magi.
- You have Bankais that even function like Modern-Day weaponry like Nukes & Missiles.
And the best thing about Bankai is that Zanpakuto Spirits can Evolve with the user.
i dont even need to watch the video because THESE are all the things people need to know
Agree 💯
What about the furry with a susanoo bankai?
@@Bluehairarrancer It functions more like a Stand than a Susanoo because he also receives the damage done to the Bankai.
That's all how the abilities are. Those are just the abilities. Domain expansion is the same, but you can't escape and are forced to basically play the game.
Because of how much I loved jujutsu kaisen, I felt it was way more new and original for a shonen anime, until I saw bleach 😂😂
JJK is really a combination of Naruto, HxH, Bleach, and a few more things. But it still carves its own identity with those inspirations.
@@dejinnthedjinn5311JJK have Naruto and hxh elements but Bleach they have many more inspiration way more even the anime use some scenes as based of inspiration
Friendly reminder that Domains are very similar to Reality Marbles from the Fate series
Most recognized one being Archer's Unlimited Blade Works
A lot of people used to call these Arena Changing/Pocket Dimension creating abilities Reality Marbles in reference to Fate but nowadays Domains have taken that role
@@Rose-85 tosen bankai and senkei zenbonsakura also change the arena
I haven’t calculated myself, but someone calculated tosen bankai even came first
*cough* *cough* Territories in YuYu Hakusho *cough* *cough*
It wasn't Domain Expansion that made an impact, it was gojo and gojo alone. In bleach case the word banki itself is iconic
Fax, Gojo unironically carries JJK's popularity
reality marbles vs domain expansion is more appropriate for comparisons
Yeah, while JJK is more based on bleach, Reality marbles hold a lot more similarities than bankais do
I was thinking the same thing. When jjk came out, I thought, oh it's a reality marble
@@shade7014actually reality marbles were one of the inspiration too gege is a huge fan if fate even got one of his art of Cu lancer in a fate art museum back in 2019
I am the bone of my sword
*Emiya ost*
so true bankai is way better than domain expansion
Bankai is just on a different level
Ichibe's black ink is actually his shikai. His bankai is when he starts writing with white.
Technically neither of those are correct. Ichibe is a primordial being. His powers are LIKE Shikai and Bankai, but he is the one who gave them the names with those powers, so they existed before Shikai and Bankai
@@iXSIKOBOIXi I'm talking about Ichimonji specifically, which is a Zanpakuto. Not his full power set.
i just love how badass some of the domains look, especially Yuta’s
Reminds me of Byakuya's bankai
You mean Unlimited Blade Works?
@@RandomGuy-ci9nt Yuta makes it look like Unlimited Bum Works with how it failed to work on Sukuna lol
you mean shirous domain?
@@Retarded_Ape 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I love the Bankai for characterization but I love the imagination part of domain expansion too
I think bankai is a little more unique but domains are underrated in the way they showcase the themes of jjk
And Bleach it's characters
@@RandomGuy-ci9nt Actually, no. It's both in Bleach. As for JJK, the Domains don't showcase any themes. At least not all of them. A majority is just "Rule of Cool" without any meaning.
For the most part, I prefer Bankai, but I do like how rare domain expansions are when compared to bankai. Not only do fewer people have them, but they're also used less, so when we actually sed someone use it it feels more impactful.
That's what's funny about new generations of kids and anime. I grew up watching anime in the 1990s during Toonami era. I saw all of the legendary anime. Dragon Ball, Sailor Moon, Gundam Wing, G Gundam, Tenchi Muyo, Zoids, Pokemon, Digimon, Yu Yu Hakusho, Rurouni Kenshin, etc. Most of the kids in the comments don't know half the anime I mentioned. Those were the best days for anime and cartoons. The golden era. Many of the techniques in Naruto are stolen from Dragon Ball, Power Rangers, and other anime. The same way Jujutsu Kaisen is basically a weaker copy of Bleach. Hollows are in Bleach and Jujutsu Kaisen, and Domain Expansion is a weak copy of Bankai. The unfortunate part is, you have all these silly memes these days that say, "Dragon Ball copied Naruto," or "Bleach copied Jujutsu Kaisen." This is the mentality of a generation who did not watch the original anime before seeing the new anime today. In terms of power levels, Jujutsu Kaisen characters are nowhere near Bleach. The same way Bleach characters are much weaker than Dragon Ball.
Honestly, Domain Expansions more resemble Reality Marbles from Fate than Bankai. In fact, the explanations and details for both are near-identical.
I would quibble with the idea that JJK's going to have a lasting cultural impact for years to come. Not to bash on JJK specifically, I just don't think we live in that kind of culture anymore with such sustained attention spans. The world will continue to turn and content creators and meme-makers will move on to - probably - Kagurabachi, and we'll have similar conversations about it in five years.
Without watching the video bankai is better due to the plethora of potential abilities and a much karger power boost
The power boost isn't really why you pull a Domain Expansion. You mainly do it for a completely unavoidable attack that usually spells the end for your target or for the large plethora of potential abilities.
Not to mention that unlike Bankai, there is a whole meta battle at the higher levels of combat around countering Domain Expansion through either domain clashes or mastering other techniques to try to counter it or protect yourself. Unlike Bankai you pretty much lose the moment your opponent pulls one and you have no strategy to deal with it.
@@joelsasmad no you have a strategy to be at it it's called use your own domain but even then I still give it to bankai as the power boost is just greater and bankai can have much better abilities than a domain like look at ichibei or senjumaru bankai
@@Nathan24634 The bankai is just a greater expression of the ability you acting like the ability changes when that's not the case. Also the boost is greater cause bleach naturally has a higher ceiling.
Tbh bleach power system is better because it has more depth, the powers are representative of the people themselves vs sorcery which is just surface level.
@@faith4657 no it's a stated 5-10x amp it's not about the ceiling of the verse if we take two characters of equal ability the person with the bankai wins Everytime if there equal in base to shikai
Fantastic Video a🫡 structured, well written, great audio and just a great watch overall
Hearing all this JJK Glaze hurts me
Two of my fav series and this is the best vid for me in all of ytbe, great work man
I love both techniques regardless of who came first, but if i were to choose, i would pick Bankai. There's just something very poetic about the idea of your essential nature being the core of your power and self acceptance unlocking your true power. if you acknowledge yourself and what you can do, there's nothing you can't achieve. And those who don't believe in themselves, can never attain their true potential.
To me that concept is beautiful and meaningful.
Nothing beats Bankai in coolnes for me in any media
Bankai : Mega Evolution
Domain E. : Terrain moves
DE just falls short too many areas
- predictable outcome (because of predictable counters)
- more syllables in English and Japanese
- lack of quantity
- as you said, tied to a characters ability more so than who they are as a person
The two have different purposes in-Universe. Domains are known to be instawins in most cases, since they're the pinnacle of the Magic there.
As for quantity, definitely, would've wished we'd seen more from different characters. Clashes could also have more interactions between each other.
@@Spino-hx2mr bankais are considered to be the pinnacle of power in Bleach too, but people who use it still lose quite often.
@@tjj6144 Yeah, it depends on the Bankai, but Domains are almost always assure hits. Aside from Simple Domains, it's almost always going to give you the win because there's nowhere to run.
Gojo, Yuji, Toji/Maki and Sukuna are exceptions since they have methods of circumventing that. Nanami and Todo had no way of stopping Self-Embodiment of Perfection, they would've died if not for the protagonist being there.
@@Spino-hx2mr kusakabe is the perfect example of a sorcerer that doesnt have a crazy ct that can do pretty well against higher level sorcerers. simple domain or falling blossom emotion should be a must learn if you plan to fight stronger people, especially while having no ways to circumvent sure hit attacks.
and sure, youre taking the peak of jjk, ones whove mastered domains, but the peak of bleach should not be messed with either. senjumarus bankai is basically a sure hit domain on crack, kenpachis bankai allows him to slice through anything, toshiros evolved bankai can freeze almost anything. the enemies in jujutsu kaisen have far less hax than in bleach, so i dont blame them for losing.
Kyoraku's bankai is one of my favorites because of how it relates to his Shikai in a simultaneously unpredictable yet perfectly explainable way when you think about it, it's *PLAY* the Shikai being children's games but the bankai being an adult play i.e theater
Like Soifon getting a missile it's more in line with her actual personality vs the face she puts on for her shikai and goes from an intended 2-hit kill to a one shot
Saying "BAN!-KAI!" goes way harder than domain expansion
Bankai! Domain Expansion is a weak ripoff.
I think both are absolutely peak in different ways, I think that Bankai due to having less limitations are generally a lot more creative, but Domains are a lot more rare and thus impactful. I can think of many situations when a Bankai was whipped out and was completely pointless, but every single time a Domain Expansion has been delivered it felt like a massive deal (even the times it didn't do much like say Naoya vs Maki, but that one is a special case since Maki is simply immune to like 95% of Domains due to being treated like an object by them)
Regardless, they both act as great trump cards that immediately bring up the hype when their name is mentioned
Domain expansion have anti-domain techniques such as hollow wicker basket and simple domain or get nullified when in clash with another domain.
BUT, at least you don't get your own domain expansion stolen and used against you because of a medallion 😂
That’s when you pull out the sidearm, I mean shikai
@@gameinsane4718 While enemies can still use the heavy weapon (bankai) against you
Bankai are better because they're more unique and aren't instant win cards unlike how they are in JJK most of the time.
Not many can acheive a domain they are only instant win cards if its an attack domain.
@@faith4657This aged like milk. Plenty of characters have Domain Expansions in JJK. And those who don't can counter them/prevent the user from activating them in a similar way in Bleach (Maki, Yuki, Yuji, Kashimo, Todo, etc)
Outside of that, Domains are an instant win card even WITHOUT the sure-hir effects as proven during the Dagon vs Naobito, Nanami & Maki fight where he was bodying them and only lost because Bumgumi appears and left the door open to his dad.
@@AnakinSkywalker-u5b Yes, plenty of ppl have DE in JJK. I only brought those as examples 🤦. Domain's have counters, but only if you HAVE them, like come on. An example of a domain expansion that will change the battle in your favor is dagan, who went from losing to bullying the team. Megumi saved them. Also, keep your unnecessary hate out of this discussion it makes you sound like a child.
Bleach doesn't have counters to bankai's likes that, unless you are just blatantly stronger or you find a way to break their bankai's, but good luck trying to do that. When I mean counters, I mean something that can help combat them mid fight.
@@faith4657
1. You didn't bring anyone up.
2. That's what I said. Which is something only a very few number of characters have.
3. LOL, okay. After all, you must be the adult intellectual with such a shit take.
4. Way to show you barely know what you're discussing. There are plenty of opponents in Bleach who countered Bankai. Just because they don't have a "X doesn't work on me!" button like the convenient Simple Domain, doesn't make them countering it any less impressive. And no, I'm not talking about those who brute forced their way against said abilities.
5. Domains are instant win buttons. Or in Dagon's case, eventual win buttons. He was, as you mentioned, winning with ease and only lost because Megumi appears and left the door open to his dad who was the real reason they won. Otherwise they were pretty much dead even when the sure-hit effect wasn't working. And as Gojo & (Peak) Sukuna proved, their Domains are instant win buttons against anyone. Hell, even Jogo's Domain is an instant win against 99% of the verse and he just lucked out and ran into the two characters he can't use them on successfully. Point is, Domains have less characters that can counter them in JJK than Bankais have in Bleach. And it doesn't help that Domains never work due to plot which makes them lose impact, unless your name is Gojo & Sukuna, in which case your Domain will work without issue against anyone.
Bankai has versatility and variability, plus immaculate drip. Renji’s false bankai on Toonami got me INTO anime!
JJK has bargain bin reality marbles that work on power-level tug-o-wars
Imo I like bankais more on paper but I like how domain expansions were utilized better. My main problem with bankai was that for the most part, bankai means the battle is over, for domains, they’re an ultimate move but one we’re shown time and time again is not an instant win. It changes the tide of the fight but doesn’t necessarily always end it.
Edit: Admittedly I put it poorly and made it seem like bankai are instant wins when they’re not. I meant more so that Bankai are used relatively simplistically and more often than not, lack risk. As a result, while I love bankai, domains I find are more interesting because of how risky they are and how they interplay with other mechanics in the verse.
TLDR; Bankais are mostly riskless power ups with a few exceptions and fewer instances where the limitations are relevant, Domains are more like ultimate moves that have immense risk and are practically their own subsection of combat in the verse making me more interested in them
That applies to a lot of Bankai as well
@@RandomGuy-ci9nt what also bothers me is that bankai generally don’t make the fight any more interesting outside of a few instances, especially post soul society. It’s a general personal issue with bleach that the fights are almost never mechanically interesting and are carried by their character work. This reflects in bankai mostly just being a cool power up or character moment, while with jjk domains are treated more as a significant tactical choice. You’re expending a ton of cursed energy and making your technique useless on the gamble that you end the fight right there or put it in your favor. If your domain shatters you are in deep trouble and if your opponent cat escape it or make it shatter, they too are screwed. That sort of interplay is just absent with bankais usually.
@thecod2345
This video literally goes over that just a bit more in-depth.
It's honestly just Fighting vs. Characterization
ruclips.net/video/oT_GaY0Y4JI/видео.htmlsi=_C3wsamPJgepzuVd
@thecod2345 not true i think u are overwhelmed by Aizen's Shikai but since you never Saw anything beyond Soul Society...
you Ofc know little to Nothing about Bleach, since that's the point where the Serie actually starts to get significantly Intresting.
@@ska4666 I’ve see it all, that’s why I’m comparing the two and don’t get me wrong, I love bleach. But in terms of fights, they often do boil down to power fests. This character has me on the ropes? Bankai and the fight is more or less over. That or even my bankai wasn’t strong enough. Closest we get to tactical bankai are in soul society where Ichigo’s incomplete bankai is mainly about speed, being able to outmaneuver senbonsakura kageyoshi.
I'm gonna go against the grain here. I think that Domain expansion works better for fights with the way how there are counters and strategies around dealing with them. I also believe they can reflect the characterization really well as well.
Just wanting to go against the grain and be different doesn't make you correct.
And Bankais are superior for fights and reflect the themes of character and their beliefs in a better way. Also, Domain Expansions can't be countered unless you have your own anti-Domain Technique, and even then it can be overpowered/overriden against a superior Domain user.
And Domains don't reflect anything about the characters that use them aside. They're just "Rule of Cool" with no meaning.
@@AnakinSkywalker-u5b Watch the video. It literally explains at the beginning how Domains are a reflection of how the user sees the world.
@@AnakinSkywalker-u5b Even without your own DE there is Simple Domain which can buy you some time and create opportunities to turn things around, but is easily broken, trying to counter sure hit attacks with your own attacks, trying to outlast through sheer durability and reverse cursed technique regenerating you. With how stressful and energy consuming it is to use a DE buying enough time might allow you to outlast and opponent who then can't use their cursed techniques at all for a while, putting them at a massive disadvantage and forcing them to go on the offensive if you can outlast them. In some circumstances you can try to rely on allies or attacks that can attack a domains barrier from the outside to break it. There is so much interaction and ways to make interesting fights built right into the power system. And no method is certain, even clashing with your own domain.
It is a lot better than a Bankai just giving you a bigger, badder superpower.
Who would between 2017 skull island kong and Pickle from baki?.
would just like to make a correction; Ichibeis ability to control the color black Is not his bankai, that's just something he can do, and ichimonji is just his shikai. things painted over by it lose their name. what his bankai actually does is let him etch a new name into anyone who's been painted over by ichimonji, giving them the powers and traits of that thing (example being him renaming yhwach to black ant)
Why tf is this a debate. Bleach is the inspiration for domain expansion
Its not territories from yu yu hakasho
i think your confused Ichibeis shikai is Ichimonji which has the black ink that erases names while his bankai is Shirafude Ichimonji which uses white ink to give things new names
The concept of bankai is just better
It’s unreal seeing the new gen filled with bleach inspo after going thru a decade of bleach slander
After tosen died, he got reincarnated in jjk and taught them domain expansions. Like, his bankai is like a domain expansion. Its an area, you have to follow rules, kinda, he makes you blind bc he himself is, you get the point
Ban kai. But the domain expansion are not based 0n bankai but actually yu yu Hakusho "territory " after the dark tournament they came into the story. The bankai similarity is in the explains how one gets a domain but that barrier and rules and sure hit came from yu yu. Really cool on gege part.
I thought they were based on Fate Reality Marbles. Heck Yuta s straight up looks like Shirou's Unlimited Blade Works.
@@joelsasmadthey are Gege confirmed he was inspired by Fate Zero I’m pretty sure he confirmed it to
There not inspired off Territories, Domanain expansion is based off a Bankai and Reality Marbles from Fate Zero and Btw Territories are based off Stands from Jojo
@@Chillchildren999 he never said that, from what ive seen.
@@Chillchildren999 no read his interviews they are off territories dont lie and be wrong.
Is this a reupload because Ichibe's Zanpakuto and it's powers have already been animated.
Simple, any bankai washes JJK verse. End of discussion.
Not jakuho raikoben cuz that shts a$$
Domain Expansion isn't unique, Type Moon did the same thing with reality marbles.
hey do you think if L Lawliet had shrine do you think he could be better than Sukuna?.
depends on his jjk verse awareness
@@rhemv K
@@rhemv W Rhemv
Domain expansion makes me a menace in one place but Bankai allows me to be a menace everywhere 😈
Domains give the user a 20% extra buff raising them to 120%
How strong is Reze?.
Am i rock because you are stone or are you stone because i am rock.
Domain expansions are more versatile but Bankai are more OP
Uh, no. This is easily disapproved by a list of Bankai abilities.
Domain Expansions are in no way more versatile. Hell, outside of Gojo's Domain, the other Domains abilities are outright mediocre/basic and don't come close to the variety Bankais in Bleach have shown.
@@AnakinSkywalker-u5b u can't comprehend you can do more with domains than bankai 😂 soo uhh no buddy try again
@@AnakinSkywalker-u5b bankai can only do one thing and that's give u a power up or give u your full ability. Domains can be expanded and shrunk, you can use domain amplificafion, you have sure hits, and etc bro bankai can't do that before being smart know what you're talking
while i love bankai can we all agree that SOME characters just spammed the hell out of it
Well we can see that DE is inspired by Bankai
i dont recall yuji having a bankai
@@rayxk 💀
love yuji’s bankai
@@theonlyanubis 😭
Until kyoraku shunsui and ichibeihhgh....(Looses voice)..show up with whole ass domain expansion
Bankai. End of video. thanks.
Ehh. Bankai is a big power boost but Domain expansions are treated more like an instant win for some characters. This would be a bad thing for fights, except that there are techniques and strategies to try to counter them unlike Bankai that actually makes the fights more interesting. Personally I prefer DE.
Domain expansions are much cooler both in concept and in practice. The concept of bankai is okay at best but the actual bankai themselves are all so boring, uninteresting and unoriginal so i would definitely go with domain expansions
I feel like domain expansion are just better the sure hit effect and the entire area is under your control it's a game changer especially for yorozu and gojo domains
I mean it depends on Bankai and Domain
@@RandomGuy-ci9nt but all domain expansion have sure hit effect
@RedLights9000-f3l
What I mean is some DE are better than other like Gojo and Sukuna.
Ones like Hakari and Megumi can be counterd
@@RandomGuy-ci9nt hakari is a unique case and Megumi didn't master his domain yet
@RedLights9000-f3l
What I'm basically saying is that not every DE is an insta win with its sure hit because it depends on what the sure hit is. (If we're still comparing them to Bankai at least, in their universe then yes)
Domain expansion have more creativity
Lol Okay..🤭
Watching JJK i wonder where all that Creativity is coming from surely Gege Knows better.. than Fans 😂
@ska4666 hey gege creatively copy pasted Ichibe's shrine's design and creavitively just flipped the effect of tosen's bankai lol.
@Creepsandwicheater Exactly Right hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahah when will these Guys understand... Modern Shonen don't really have anything but the Animation going for them...
@@ska4666 ...Chainsaw Man?
Bankai
When your son tries to claim your style.......
Jujutsu kaisen fans will say Domain Expansion is better, and bleach fans will say Bankai is better. And as a bleach fan I will say that bankai is better hahaha
Law was use a domian.
0.2 sec Comment 🙏
Is it just me or did this video just describe both and then give no reasons on which one is better?
Describing cultural influence isn’t a reason why one is better
just you
@@rhemv Ok then, what reason did you give in the video that bankai was better, other than influence
@@beaneater4277 the video is subjective to everyone , the entire topic is entirely opinion based , i explained each point so everyone can gain a good understanding on both power systems , there is no definitive answer to which is better
Bnakai is better and stronger
Did u accept my suggestion or no it’s okay to be honest :) 👍
@@ALL_THAT_MATTERS_IS_MY_DOG maybe in the future
@@rhemv K thanks.
Reality marbles trump all
Nah we’d win
Nah i’m you
Bankai 😊
W vid
Reality marbel beat both of them
com for algorithm
Bankai easy
Hello _your computer has virus_ ?
Tuff
Ngl everything you said from 0:50 to 1:50 was pulled straight out of your ass. None of that was stated anywhere in the manga and some of it is just straight up wrong.
@@GirlthatsBilly do you have smth wrong with your brain ? or do you just not use anything provided to you in canon material ?
@@rhemv buddy, in your video you said there were 2 type of domains "innate" and "lethal". WTF are you talking about???? As stated IN THE MANGA the types of "domains" are innate and domain expansion. then the 2 types of DEs are "sure hit" and "sure kill" either you can't read or you were reading BS translations.
@@GirlthatsBilly Billy just rewrites what he sees on paper , you have mental issues
how is this a video ,
Domain expansion, duh
Domain expansion clear
I just feel like bankai has lost some of its weight due to the amount of time it has been used, with nearly 20 characters being able to use it every ark, while domain expansions are super limited to characters at the peak of the verse
Then you must have 0 reading abilities because the only person who constantly spams Bankai in every arc is Ichigo. And that's because he isn't very versatile.
The people with impressive and versatile Bankai abilities only use them when necessary.
Oh, and Domain aren't limited to characters who are the peak of the verse. Plenty of characters have them and many have abilities specifically for countering them.
@@AnakinSkywalker-u5b Toshiro, renji, and mayuri have used it in every ark their in
@@imaturechild24
1. Renji is the same case as Ichigo. He's not a versatile dude so of course he's gonna spam his ability which is just a long snake. Doesn't help that he's also the Megumi of Bleach. That meaning he's a fraud that spams one move to no avail.
2. Toshiro only uses his Bankai in crucial moments/battles and that's because he wants to end the fight early. It's also later revealed that his stupid ass never knew it's true power, and is partially spamming it because he's still a child. Which is why he finally turns into an adult when he achieved it's true power.
3. Mayuri rarely used his Bankai. And it's definitely not in "every arc" he's in. Also, he's not out there spamming it. He only uses it to end the fight.
@@imaturechild24Renji doesn't use Bankai in Substitute Shinigami or Fullbring arc and he doesn't use his old Bankai in TYBW.
Toshiro doesn't use Bankai in Fullbring arc either and of course his does evolve in TYBW as well.
@@Dragonpuncher123 they were barely in those arks
Ryoiki tenkai is better
w vid 🩷🩷