BTW, Royal Enfield was the best thing that ever happened to Triumph. Around here, Triumph can't keep these little 400 bikes in stock they sell so fast.
I’m trying to but a scrambler 400 and there is only one red one in the entire state of Arizona, I’m trying to track down a green one but they are scarce!
@@josiahmeyer7430 2 new 400s are coming soon Launch is confirmed during Indian festive season which will begin next month One is thruxton 400 the other is not known possibly a Bonneville or tiger hopefully it's tiger
Tenho uma Hunter, num futuro não tão próximo, vou ter a Hunter 450, aparentemente vai ter a mesma qualidade e ser no mesmo nível da triumph, fora que no Vale do Paraíba (SP) não tem concessionária Triumph
Same story in India ! (Both are made in India) Speed 400 is here considered as Premium motorcycle whereas RE was never considered as "Premium" in India.
Same thing in Colombia. Triumph is a premium brand here, the Speed is like 40% more expensive than the Hunter (actually, it's called HNTR here) and so are spare parts and services.
Rode both of these recently, and believe it or not , the triumph with that bit more power was encouraging me to ride in away ive been trying to get away from. Where the hunter was just perfect, out of those 2 i would go hunter , but i recently bought the Meteor 350 in Aurora Green, and over the years i have come to understand that the best bike is the bike that puts a smile on your face and makes you feel awsome , which doesn't involve anyone else's opinion 😎 good review guys as always 😎😎😎
They are both beautiful looking bikes. One thing which is never talked enough about is the location where you live, which makes a huge difference. Are you a Brit on the island? yep very small bike works great; one, too lane roads all good, or even alot of places mainland Europe/though i hear Spain opens up big and or autobon Germany. Are you in the states? not happening (depending where your at) where i currently live its 5/6 lane highway's and people "cruising" (cars) at speeds usually 75mph or 120km🤣. Yep a low power bike simply doesn't cut it, not only that its dangerous when people zoom past you at 20mph faster then you. Currently on a Trident 660 and its all good/ yes not a beast, but no slouch, yep "everything is big in the states" sigh, and unfortunately that's not always a good thing. Best of luck, -Cheers
No i dont think. Speed 400 competes against KTM Duke 390, BMW G310r, Honda CB300r, MT 03, and all other 300-500 cc naked bikes Speed 400 looks Retro but it is more of a Naked Sports bike
The Speed 400 was meant to be a RE 350-500 cc killer in India. The classic + meteor + hunter sell some 50k pieces a month. Triumph and Harley (the 440x) both are aiming squarely at this market. It is sort of working with Speed selling an avg of 5,000 units per month. Though I personally feel that the Speed has a much peppier engine meant for Indian cities (crowded af) while the longer stroke Hunter is for the highway
@@sudharshangarg8936 and in the international market as well...Triumph has only ventured into this category because all the manufacturers are seeing the numbers RE are doing even internationally in this segment!
@@sudharshangarg8936 i dont know why you said longer stroke engine of hunter for highway. I have seen hunter cannot run continously on Highways either. Whereas Speed 400 can do 800kms (maybe more) easily in a single a day. I have done close to 650kms in a single already that too in 9 hours
@@roadrunner2757it all depends on local pricing, the triumph pricing in india was an absolute shock, the hunter which is the cheapest of the RE's 350 range is only about (₹30k) 300£ cheaper than the triumph about the same as the best selling Classic 350, and definitely a more advanced bike over the RE's. Duke 390/bmw 310's/ Mt03 are all a lot costlier here
This Speed 400 owner is frankly IN LOVE with his Triumph! I live in Southern California, near Malibu, and have been derply enjoying riding the tightly curved Decker and Latigo Canyon roads, but also the long sweepers on Mulholland Highway. As mentioned in the video, the Speed 400 is ideally designed and calibrated for such riding. From my perspective, that of veteran rider, nearly 60, the Speed 400 is as close to riding perfection I have encountered.
As someone a bit older than you, I tend to agree. The handling is really amazing....very flickable yet very stable and secure in the turns. The ride is also very comfortable. The light weight, combined with the surprisingly perky engine, really makes it a blast to ride. It reminds me of my early riding years when I rode a Honda 305 Superhawk.
Yea S 400 is the perfect bike but for a second bike ...simplicity and city/daily riding re is better... Although i expected better mileage given its lower stats
@@Plough78 Get a Triumph!! RE is good for city riding but that's about it, only 20PS doesn't go too far! Triumph's 40PS makes it a better overall bike
I have a Triumph Speed Twin 1200, which I love, but I like to keep her clean, so don't take her out if the roads are dirty, because frankly she is a pain to clean. I recently purchased a Hunter as a second bike. She does not get dirty, as the great mudguards keep the crud of the engine. She is blacked out, so much easier to clean, a quick wipe or a light spray is sufficient. This means I'm able to ride when the weather has been bad without worrying about getting her dirty. Yes the Triumph 400, is probably a better bike, but because of the design, I wouldn't want to ride her on dirty roads, for reasons given earlier, consequently less riding time. The Hunter for a back road Bimbler is certainly a good choice, and very importantly for me, easy to live with.
From a Speed Twin 1200 rider, that's high praise indeed 😊. To be honest, each of these bikes appeal to a different customer. I've often found that I ride with a different mind set depending on which bike I'm on. The Hunter embraces the feeling you get when gently bimbling along enjoying the scenery. Like my CB300R, the Speed 400 probably enjoys being ragged and is great fun if a little more focused. Either way, great fun whichever the bike.
I purchased the hunter after selling my Suzuki M50 cruiser. I wanted something small, playful, and cheap. Its hard to beat the price on these for what you get. More importantly, it is simple to work on and my goal was to mess with it and make it faster. It has all the right touches of modern, but feels like working on the 80's bikes I started on. I dont regret the decision. Its plenty fast for commuting on non highway roads, and it sounds fantastic. Fuel X smooths out the throttle, DNA gives it grunt, and once i get the cam and remove the cat, it will be a ruckus little bike. Sure, in the end I may spend more than just having picked up the triumph, but the fun along the way, and experiencing the transformation is priceless.
I liked my Hunter and I rode it all around, it just lacked a bit of power, especially up hills. I traded up to a Speed 400. The seat on the Speed 400 is not as comfortable as the Hunter and I can’t get used to the buzziness in the bars, on longer rides my hand goes numb. Otherwise, the power the Hunter lacked is definitely apparent in the Speed 400. Also, I miss the center stand, especially when maintaining the chain. Lately on the Speed 400 (only 2800 miles) my check engine light is on and it always takes me turning the ignition key on / off to get it started. Talked to dealer / mechanic - they said it’s a known issue since 2023. Something to do with the chip in the ignition key not communicating with the immobilizer unit. To keep enjoy riding until Triumph creates an update to the firmware. Never had an issue with the little Hunter.
The engine has double the power, so the vibration will naturally be higher. However, I don't find it that intrusive when cruising up to 65 in 6th. Get some gel filled riding gloves. It cuts down on the numbness considerably. Haven't had any electronic issues at all with mine. Solid as a rock. Hope they get yours sorted out.
@@johnstone7697it doesn’t always follow that higher hp results in more vibration, it’s more down to engine design. Years ago I owned a BMW F650 single which had 50bhp and didn’t find it buzzy at all.
Yeah i have heard that and seen that with my friend's who had 400x scrambler and then a hunter. When asked how are they he said "i think the hunter is slow but when it sees the prey , it hits it with deadeye precision, the 400 on the other hand literally runs with the prey and then takes it down." I agree 💯 with what he says 😂.
14:48 this whole sequence was quite funny, and quite informative. love the fact you’re both just genuinely trying to figure out the difference in the seating position whilst doing this funny back and forth
I had a Hunter and put 3,000 miles in it in 8 months. I loved that bike. Loved it. But I couldn't go faster than 70mph and couldn't get on the freeway. I would take side streets to get anywhere. So, heartbreakingly I sold it and upgraded to a Bonneville. Which has the same basic style and size dimensions and riding position. Love this new bike and can take it anywhere now. I've put more than 2,000 miles on it in the last two months. The 350 single was a great starter bike, but it was time to grow up.
Have a RE Classic 350. Did the cam, decat, DNA air cleaner, 16 tooth sprocket and Fuel X lite. Improved performance dramatically and still has the classic looks. If I want to go fast, I'll ride my Triumph T120. So I'd pass on the Triumph 400...
The 350 with its 20HP reminds me a lot of my Suzuki TU250X, with its 16 HP, but weighing 100 lbs less than the RE. From the reviews, the performance of the two seems to be pretty similar . For me, on US streets and secondary roads, it was just too slow, making me feel unsafe.. My Speed 400 is hardly a rocket ship, but it can easily pull away from cars at stop lights and get up to 60mph quickly enough giving you that extra margin of safety. Drivers in the US these days are always in a hurry (and distracted), and you need that acceleration to "keep you in the game". I can't stand constantly being passed while on my motorcycle. As for looks, while the Classic is very cool, the Triumph is certainly no slouch. I've gotten tons of compliments on mine, which has the red/gray tank.
Absolutely love my 2023 Hunter 350, in the Rebel Blue. Center stand is great. Bar end mirrors, bash plate and adjustable controls installed by the previous owner. Bought it used with only 1,300 miles for $3,500 US. No dealer setup fee, no destination fee, and no documentation fees. Plus the first service and oul change had been done. Bike came with another complete oil and filter change. I highly recommend buying used. I often feel if the hunter had another 20 horsepower and lost 20 pounds it would be even more fantastic. So I am currently keeping an eye out for a slightly used Speed 400.
Can't go for the triumph as it is liquid cooled. I have the hunter 350 and I love it. If I wanted to go fast, I'd probably go for a 650-700 cc bike at least
I have the Speed 400, and I agree! The Hunter definitely looks more elegant and a proper retro with the traditional forks, halogen lamp and that beautiful tail end design! I picked the speed because I wanted a classic looking roadster, but with decent performance and modern components. Just wish they had gone with a simpler (and more effective) headlamp, black front fork cylinders and a more retro tail end design like the Hunter.
Id go with the triumph of these two. That said i give RE the most respect as they woke many manufacturers including Triumph up to the fact that sub 600cc can sell like hot cakes
I know it's a strange reason but it has to be the Enfield because I won't consider any bike without a proper front mudguard. Styling over practicality again
The Triumph is a much better bike all round. Performance, weight, comfort, looks, finish, reliabiity, servicing, resale value and best of all more fun.
The Triumph is a Bajaj with a Bajaj engine with Triumph designed engine covers etc.. still the real comparison will be when the Sherpa engine goes into a Hunter chassis
Thanks guys. An excellent video that nobody else really wanted to make 😊. Some very good points raised, and a lot of these echoed in the excellent comments.
Great review, I agree the Hunter is better in looks but it's the Triumph Speed 400 that I like more mainly due to better engine performance, more suited for the riding I would do. Here in New Zealand the price difference is only $405 NZ.
Both are excellent and refreshing to see new models of smaller capacity bikes. Waiting to see if Honda take the bait and a reincarnated CB400 four comes available.
The 400 four would be targeted at a much higher performance and sportier segment than these two though. I occasionally used to ride a 1975 cb400f. Pretty fun bike.
I have the Hunter and the fact that it was cheap as chips to buy and customise was a big plus. My only gripe is that it appears to be electrically limited to 72 mph so, whilst you can do things to increase acceleration and ridability, I now have a bike that tops out at 72 in 4th and 5th so 5th is now basically an overdrive. Still keeping it though - just love it.
I know looks are subjective but I have no idea how you could find the Hunter better looking than the Speed 400 but each to their own I guess. It has to be remembered that Royal Enfield prices have come down but even at £1000 difference I think the Triumph beats the Hunter on looks, performance and looks a more premium product with better components which all adds up to a more complete package.
I’d do the classic 350 (Signals Marsh Gray) AND the 400 Speed. Already fast enough and power with an MV Agusta F4 RR and BMW R1100RT, so glad to see some lighter, easier going, heritage-ish bikes out there, especially for newer riders and us O.G.s wanting a second or more affordable, smaller and capable.
I'm gona be that guy that tells you "only if chrome is really your thing or the ergonomics of the Hunter are not your thing and you are more like a rocking chair type of guy"
Funny reading these post . I ride a intercepter 650 And I ride it daily on gravel and dirt roads . 6 mile each day . I have many bikes . Seriously a barn full . I'm thinking of the 350 because it is just cool . And I want one The triumph is over priced here in the center of the USA . 6500.00 Fact is I may fly to LA if I buy the 350 . And ride it back to Kansas City .
I fell for the Hunter's looks and that hasn't changed with the emergence of the triumph single. Whilst 40hp is enticing, for me the deal breaker is the Hunter's long stroke engine with it's low down torque and ability to plod along happily and comfortably at the lowest of speeds, ideal for exploring the smallest of lanes whilst enjoying one's surroundings. Having fallen in love with the Hunter, I don't mind spending some money on any mods that make the bike happier than Euro regs would otherwise allow: DNA wide open air filter with a decat pipe and stumpy 225mm end can from Delkevic have improved manners, performance, and sound tremendously without losing any of that low end grunt which has remained as smooth and accessible as ever. With the engine so much freer, it can even hustle a little. I took a gamble with the non regulation exhaust can but I can now say I'm more than delighted with it. The short 225mm option was the only one that would fit without touching the side luggage racks. I was concerned it would be uncomfortably loud. However, with baffle in, it is loud but not too loud. It's certainly not offensive with normal relaxed riding. Best of all, the can simply amplifies the character of the long stroke single with nothing hooligan about it. (However, the stainless steel exhaust with a near vertical down pipe does change the bike's blacked out and rakish aesthetic somewhat, but nonetheless adds character in a more old world way).
19:29 Have to totally agree with you Alex! I have pretty much done the same to.my Hunter I have also added the fuel x pro plus and it goes like stink without taking away the character of the standard set up ! I'm glad you highlighted the concern of the Delkevic downpipe it seems they have followed the form of the Himalayan/ scram 411 which looks out of sorts with the downtube frame angle,,I have highlighted my concerns the Delkevic if more customers who bought this do the same maybe they might reconsider the design .
These TR series engines are crafted in such a way, that speed 400 have good amount of torque in low RPM's i glide through traffic sometimes 3rd gear on, No throttle no Clutch it glides through traffic easily at a speed of 20-25kmph
Man try the triumph It has such good torque low down that you don't feel that it is a short stroke engine Triumph 400 is the best thing in motorcycling world Quality, fit n finish, simple, good performance and the price
The fairly steep steering angle is an important characteristic that also attracted me to the Hunter. I was curious what that would feel like, as it was my intention to learn slow speed riding skills (I'm 68 now and slow speed skills were not part of the driving test back in the day). Since I've had the Hunter I've already learnt how to do figure of 8's comfortably within the width of 20' / 6mtrs and also to do continuous circles in that space (a much more demanding a task on my V-Strom). The hunter's geometry is both confidence inspiring and incredibly forgiving in tight spots. I expected to have the odd tumble whilst practising, but so far that hasn't happened yet. As to stability, the lighter the grip and the less input on the bars, the better (watch Moto Control's RUclips channel for How-To and research based advice on bike handling). As to 'no hands' riding in a straight line, the Hunter feels more stable and reassuring than my '08 650 V-Strom, which too is an incredibly planted bike. PS, I feel no compunction to test the Triumph 400, as I have the V-Strom for when power, speed, distance, or carrying capacity are of concern.
Hunter RE I bought after finding out that the finish on it was of a higher grade, living in the most populated country and commuting in never ending traffic, it still makes my mood change to - better. Had it for a year now, am very happy 🎉
Great comparison guys! Both of these bikes were on my list. I chose the Speed 400, in my area I need the extra power. Plus I actually love the looks. Funny that both of those colors were my choice. 🤙🤙
The dial is offset because there was meant to be a Tripper display on the right hand side. However, due to the global chip shortage they do not have any and so are selling them minus the Tripper.
Big fan of RE but its really hard to recommend RE after riding the speed 400 personally. What a great bike it is and they are selling really well here in India. Im thinking of getting one for myself now after i had a test ride a month back.
For me, the choice is dead easy: Triumph. Cheaper, 2x as long service intervals and hece half the service costs, double the performance. Nicer engine sound, much better suspension... if I hadn't already ordered a Guzzi when I tested the Triumph, I might have bought it on the spot!
As an owner of a Royal Enfield 350, I can tell you that these engines really need a lot of break in time. They’re a completely different bike after about 2,500 miles from new. I love mine immensely now. It’ll never be fast but I enjoy it more than any others I own that are all much more powerful. Great video guys!
You both make watching YT videos fun! Thanks for the side by side. New rider here and I bought a classic 350 because of you. Considered bothe the Hunter and the Meteor, but went for the looks and comfort of the Classic! I love love love it!. Wanted a little more speed and picked up the SM 650. Cost effective and so fun to have both bikes for different types of rides Thanks! Keep these coming!
Enfield looks, Triumph power... jobs a goodun... in the end I went for the Triumph Scrambler... being a lanky 6 footer the Scrambler fitted me. better... the lack of power of the Enfield was the deal breaker... At least with the Triumph, power is on tap for the odd motorway/A road excursion... Ride safe lads...😎👍
If it were my only bike, I'd go for the Triumph, it can handle highway speeds more comfortably and is generally more spirited to ride. If I were buying a second "around town" bike, then I'd pick the RE, as the power difference doesn't matter much at low speeds, and the RE has a lot of charm.
I think RE’s resurgence has made Triumph up their game, and that is evident in the Triumph 400s. I hope RE will respond by upping their game even more with an updated 650.
Like to see the RE Scram 411 alongside the Triumph Scrambler 400x.. thats what I'd be looking at if i wanted this engine sized bike, i think thats more of a interesting comparison
Very interesting. As always. Tough decision. I own a classic 350 and I love it. I like the Triumph but tbh, if I was going to buy a second bike, I'd want something larger. I'm hanging on for the Classic 650. Love the show. Keep it up. Oh! And the old man's spiffy boots were great! Got my wife's attention anyway. 😂
The Triumph is a more modern take on a classic theme. The Royal Enfield carries more of a traditional take with careful updates. I chose the Speed 400, it's just better allround!
Great video!!!! Id pick the Speed 400 right now but the new RE Guerrilla 450 coming out in July will be more of an even match to the Triumph and it will have more authenticity as a actual RE than the Triumph Speed 400 being perceived as a badge engineering job
The Speed 400 is more of a modern roadster with modern componentry, but a classic design. The new RE roadster will be more traditional in that sense, but the power will be on par with the S400. I do hope RE playes with the sprocketing and gear ratios to make it better for the low rev city performance compared to the Himalayan 450. But that is something RE generally doesn't do, case in point being the different 650s with same gearing. But it will be a more interesting comparision for sure!
@@the_winged_helm What will the RE weigh? As much as I like their bikes, I find them rather heavy and a bit slow to respond on the handling side. One of Triumph's big advantages with the Speed 400 is its light weight.
@@johnstone7697 for most of the RE bikes, you'd be right. But there isn't much difference in weight between the S400 and the Hunter. However, I understand that the rear suspension on the Hunter is not setup well. The Triumph definitely has the more sophisticated setup.
Thanks in part to your reviews I traded my Hunter for a 2020 V7 Stone. Extremely happy with my choice! I had the Tripper on the Hunter just to balance the looks. Didn’t like the function of the Tripper. The Moto Guzzi also has the speedo offset. A minor annoyance. The Quadlock with vibration damper is HUGE compared to the Peak Design phone mount, and they all come with vibration damping. Why do you care what you look like on it? The best way I can improve my looks is a full face helmet!😂 To me it’s all about the feelings.
Hello guys, well done for covering this, I'm sure this is one comparison fans of either bike won't want to miss. Really enjoyed hearing your thoughts and top job all-round as always!
In India, a navigation meter is available as an additional accessory from Royal Enfield, designed to be mounted on the right side of the speedometer. This may be why the speedometer is positioned off-center, though I also feel it would have looked better if placed in the center.
Meteor 350s are currently discounted to 2999+OTR, Hunters can't be far off. I agree with the Old Man that the Royal Enfield is the better deal, at 5k the Triumph is more than halfway towards a Honda 500, or Benelli or CFMoto 450 etc, all of which are substantially more of a bike.
I have hunter 350 as it’s my first bike and wanted to see if I could get into riding motorcycles. Certainly a good bike for people starting out as it has marketed. Good price and good looking bike. In the beginning when I started out riding this itself felt fast as it was my first time but I had no mods in it. Slowly I started craving for more speed to which I did a modification in Hunter. I changed the stock air filter and the stock filter opening cover. I installed DNA air filter and the bigger opening cover it was the best decision as the bike got slight increase in the grunt , the throttle response was smoother and faster, at higher rpms it just easily gives that smooth kick especially while overtaking on 2nd and 3rd gear. Another modification I did was flat bench seat definitely a good choice as you can adjust yourself comfortably in any seating position and it definitely enhanced the look of the bike additional bar end mirrors added a good touch . Mine is Rebel red and it looks quite sexy and raw at the same time. I think these mods are more than enough for Hunter to keep it simple , elegant and functional in various commutes like city or tourer. Very Nimble and good bike if you want to enjoy riding without having aggressive speed and other things. But I am craving slightly more adventurous so looking into new KTM supermoto launch I guess it’s going to be on 390 platform . Already thought of buying a continental GT but waiting for Royal Enfield new line up upgrade as recently saw a spy shots of Interceptor 750.
I own a re 350 classic, military style in sand colour, i put the dna filter on, it really makes a difference. However, this watercooled triumph is all over this hunter in looks and performance. The only thing they have in common is, they are great value for the money. 👍
Looks like a bonneville? It's definitely a compliment in my opinion. I agree that the dial design goes to Royal Enfield and both dials should be centered. By the looks of the front forks and muffler Triumph wins those two categories. I like the front turn signals on the Enfield, but I like the look of the Triumph larger headlight better. If I had to choose a test ride of both would definitely be required....and fun😁
Hmm, at 5'8" with a 31 & 5/16ths" inside leg (thankfully both sides), I can see that Triumph making a nimble little 'cafe racer'- with 40bhp on tap, it's Shirley Worth an alloy tank, rear-sets & short bars - just to blow the nose-bag off Enfield's rather 'Dobbin' GT's AND have lots of fun without necessarily throwing your license straight through the nearest judicial shredder. Maybe I'm just an old hooligan eh? : )
I do love my Hunter. Upgraded suspension front and rear. DNA filter and cover. Mini crash guard and flyscreen. Mandatory Quadlock on the bars. Great little commuter. Some decent tires next. Thanks chaps.
I think the Royal Enfield Guerrilla 450 is proper competition for the Triumph Speed 400. On the other hand, the Hunter is just the Hunter, no complication -a simple, fun-to-ride bike, nothing more, nothing less.
Both are good looking bikes but at 6ft 2in I'd go for the RE Scram 411, especially at the moment when many dealers are selling them off at £3700. I'm tempted as a second bike for Winter use when my Honda CB 1100RS is hibernating.
Older rider here and now that they put radiators on bikes I’ll never get an air cooled bike again. Summer heat is enough without the engine heat radiating up on me. Both look great. Great review.
I say that is an issue but the fans usually kicks in fast. Cause these bikes are designed and manufactured in India for Indian climate and roads. So the heat in India is excruciatingly hot, so the manufacturers knows these problems and try to work it out. Europe heat should not be that big of an issue. However if you are in Middle east or a place where its as hot as India or more then water cooled is the way to go.
I haven't tried the Triumph yet but had a Hntr out for a test tide. I see you're Enfield had a loose rear view mirror, so did mine! 😄.... The lack of performance would put me off the Enfield also it felt small to me and too twitchy somehow. Great value though both of these!
I own a Hunter and a neighbour own the Triumph. Enfield feels like a simple seat on an engine. Just the basics. The Triumph feels like a high maintenance machine which would complain if I don't meet her demands. It's really an expensive and high-maintenance motorcycle for Indian conditions. The Triumph is a lot quicker but throws me off every time becuase it lacks character. It feels like any Bajaj motor. Ultimately it goes down to preference and both are great machines and what a time to live!
Love the styling of Royal Enfield, easily beats the speed 400 but in terms of spec and value for money, I gotta have it to the triumph, don't get me wrong here, really love that hunter, but until I get to ride both, I don't have a final decision
The triumph is more what younger riders will go mad for I think. It's kind of what the Japanese were doing in the 80s, a fast nimble mid size bike. They're both great for what they are but I think the Triumph has it here. Great comparison.
I own a Speed 400 from past 10 months. Now both these bikes are way too much different. Speed 400 is a Hoonigan, and have Heart like Sports Naked bike. Speed 400 carries lot of quality. Hunter 350 is just a cost cutted classic 350 thats it.
So this was a very interesting review to watch! About 5 months ago when I was taking my lessons these were the exact two bikes I was looking at and thinking about which one I should get. I absolutely agree with your review and summary of them. I was quite torn as to which one to get, the Hunter seems like great value for money but the Speed 400 feels like a bike you’d keep longer with it’s extra power for when you’d want to us it etc.. I think ultimately for me one of my main concerns was would I be bored in 6 months time as I like a mix of riding and would want to keep a bike for a few years. But then after looking through some of your other bike reviews I came across the ol’ man’s review of the Triumph Street Twin 900! Have to say I’d very much recommend watching that review, it sold it to me! I passed my test about 3 months ago and bought a second hand 2019 Street Twin with just over 1k miles on the clock for £6k. I think it’s superb and is happy at both low speeds as well as high, very manoeuvrable. So just to add really that if someone was also considering a second hand bike for slightly more then I think that’s also worth a look too.
Just been out around the Algarve hills with my friend who has a Hunter. He loves it, and rides it so skillfully around the bends it's hard to keep up with him. He also has a Ninja H2 and other sports bikes like the Suzuki GSX so the fact he likes the Hunter speaks volumes. Either that, or he uses it so I can (just about) keep up with him 😂. PS he's put a 19 inch front wheel on the Hunter, instead of the 17 inch that comes as standard, as he says it rides better, and looks better.
Exactly the comparison I was looking for. Thanks, lads!
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I have a Hunter 350 and I'm thinking about upgrading to the Speed 400. The price in Colombia is quite a bit more, so I'm not sure if it's worth it.They both look very pretty by the way
I own speed 400 and that’s also my first bike. Having ridden it for nearly a year I can surely tell you the bike is a head-turner on looks. She rides well and fast too if needed. She got a character and sound that will want to you to ride her more. Hunter is a good bike too but for a grand extra, triumph offers a lot more.
Before these Triumph 400s came out I used to toy with the idea of getting a Hunter to customize into a scrambler. With the Triumph Scrambler 400 just being about 1500 dollars more it wouldn’t make sense to dump so much money into a hunter vs just getting the scrambler
I'm 6'1" plus boots, and curious as to the fit of the 400. Now that I'm 75 and have sold my last big bike (Yam 1200 Tenere) I still can't get used to walking into an empty garage. I don't tour anymore, but would still like a Sunday bike.
Still yet to try the speed, rode the 400x last week on demo and loved it other than the clutch lever and handlebar angle killed my arthritic thumb, hopefully speed rectifies this , went off Enfields after sitting on them, just find them very heavy for what they are although i like the looks.
Great review, really worked well with you both doing it, being able to have a conversation about the bikes between you helped the review. For these two I would pick the Triumph, I actually think as a town bike the RE 350’s don’t work as they do not have the power to get away from traffic so again the Triumph for me. However if this comparison was Triumph with the Classic, I would pick the Classic as for me the looks are what appeal to me and I would use it for country lane bimbling and the power wouldn’t matter.😊
RE is launching Guerilla 450 based on liquid cooled sherpa engine used in Himalayan in August ! That would definitely beat Triumph in looks and performance !
Triumph Speed 400 is the better bike for performance-oriented riders who are willing to spend more money. The Royal Enfield Hunter 350 is a good option for budget-minded riders who prioritize style and slow-speed handling.I am a huge fan of Royal Enfield but I am not happy with hunder 350 🥴 🖤
Couldn’t resist the price tag of $3.5K and got the Speed back in September 2023 as my second bike.. Can’t be happier about it.. Speed is the better looking of the two to my eyes..
Once again, if you can afford the triumph go with that. The service intervals alone tell you the quality difference. 16,000kms vs 5000kms, it’s not even close! I have a T100 2021 and an Interceptor 650. 9,500kms in and the interceptor 650 has blown its gearbox (spacer between gears broke, went around the gearbox and damaged everything). 8 months wait for parts to come and repair to be done. Totally have lost faith in the brand. Also I have ridden the hunter. It is fun as all motorcycles are but completely runs out of legs on the motorway (above 100kph/60mph) which can feel a bit dangerous. I disagree that the Triumph is less suited for city riding. It’s completely suited and at 179kg vs 181kg, the triumph is lighter!
As an Indian in my country The triumph speed 400 makes a lot of sense for the purpose of a city bike ... the air cooling of RE becomes a pain in the afternoon when during summers the temperature outdoor can be higher than 40 celsius ... the heat from the engine of RE in summers is really uncomfortable .. moreover the triumph is lighter and accelerates faster ... making way through the crowded roads will be easier with a light weight vehicle and the quick acceleration will help in staying ahead of the crowd ...
I've got a 600 and needed a second bike for commuting and short runs so I don't have to keep using the 6.. so I've gone for the hunter... I don't need performance, I've got my big bike for that, I wanted something far more chilled that was a completely different ride to my 600/4... the triumph would have just been a slower, slightly retro version of my bigger bike.... ish...
Living in the U.K. the Triumph is so capable. Even if you wanted to tour t could cope. have a bigger bike with panniers etc to go with my touring buddies but, moving on, and a choice of just one bike, the Speed 400 might be the one to stay in the garage. 80+ mpg, 200+ range and comfortable all day.
The engine and brakes of the Speed 400 in the Hunter ? Would that be your choice and would ik be a good bike ? I bought a blue 400, red takes to long to deliver, black at least one month, blue in stock.
Is that the ol man's new home in the background? I have Harley's at home but I am headed to the UK to buy a motorhome. I was just looking at the dimensions of the Hunter to see if I could squeeze it into the garage and travel around with it. But you reminded me that the Triumph is an option. Coming off a Harley do you think 20 hp might be a bit painful for me to adjust to? Should I go the triump? Love your work.
People are making a lot about the difference in service intervals for these two bikes, but for a lot of U.K. owners who tend to be older riders who mostly ride in warmer, drier months it’s irrelevant as both bikes will need to be serviced annually and the bikes will be serviced long before milage requirements say. I used to own a HONDA CRF250L which had 8000 mile or 12 month service intervals, guess which always came first?
Agree that the RE's better looking but for me the Triumph's spec makes it worth the additional money. Unlike you two I'm a short-@rse. I've sat on both Triumph 400s at my local dealer and for the short of stature the Speed is probably the better choice if getting both feet firmly on the ground is a priority. The Scrambler was still doable (it's a light bike) albeit I was on tip toes or off to one side.
BTW, Royal Enfield was the best thing that ever happened to Triumph. Around here, Triumph can't keep these little 400 bikes in stock they sell so fast.
Same in Pennsylvania
I got mine in 2 months
O mesmo aqui no Brasil, aguardando a minha👍
I’m trying to but a scrambler 400 and there is only one red one in the entire state of Arizona, I’m trying to track down a green one but they are scarce!
@@josiahmeyer7430 2 new 400s are coming soon
Launch is confirmed during Indian festive season which will begin next month
One is thruxton 400 the other is not known possibly a Bonneville or tiger hopefully it's tiger
Royal Enfield is a nice-looking simple bike. I don't want to deal with a radiator, water pump, and fan etc. Simplicity is the best for me.
Nailed it. K.I.S.S.
That’s exactly it - same with 411 and 450.
That's why l have an xvs950, not much air cooled cruiser choice apart from an HD.
RE Hunter 350 comes with a unique suspension setup esp. designed for ultimate pillion comfort. They are known as THE TATTI SUSPENSION
Oh really what about the stiff suspension😂😂 then
Here in Brazil we have both, but the speed 400 is 50% more expensive than the hunter, so they don’t compete with each other.
Tenho uma Hunter, num futuro não tão próximo, vou ter a Hunter 450, aparentemente vai ter a mesma qualidade e ser no mesmo nível da triumph, fora que no Vale do Paraíba (SP) não tem concessionária Triumph
That is what I was thinking how the triumph is so more expensive here in Brazil. It should be around 26 grant here.
Same story in India ! (Both are made in India) Speed 400 is here considered as Premium motorcycle whereas RE was never considered as "Premium" in India.
Same thing in Colombia. Triumph is a premium brand here, the Speed is like 40% more expensive than the Hunter (actually, it's called HNTR here) and so are spare parts and services.
Tem a Osten em SJC. Concessionária Triumph@@breninblablabla3818
Rode both of these recently, and believe it or not , the triumph with that bit more power was encouraging me to ride in away ive been trying to get away from. Where the hunter was just perfect, out of those 2 i would go hunter , but i recently bought the Meteor 350 in Aurora Green, and over the years i have come to understand that the best bike is the bike that puts a smile on your face and makes you feel awsome , which doesn't involve anyone else's opinion 😎 good review guys as always 😎😎😎
They are both beautiful looking bikes. One thing which is never talked enough about is the location where you live, which makes a huge difference. Are you a Brit on the island? yep very small bike works great; one, too lane roads all good, or even alot of places mainland Europe/though i hear Spain opens up big and or autobon Germany. Are you in the states? not happening (depending where your at) where i currently live its 5/6 lane highway's and people "cruising" (cars) at speeds usually 75mph or 120km🤣. Yep a low power bike simply doesn't cut it, not only that its dangerous when people zoom past you at 20mph faster then you. Currently on a Trident 660 and its all good/ yes not a beast, but no slouch, yep "everything is big in the states" sigh, and unfortunately that's not always a good thing. Best of luck, -Cheers
You guys are probably the first to pit these two against each other and this absolutely makes more sense than anything else! Great review as always!
No i dont think. Speed 400 competes against KTM Duke 390, BMW G310r, Honda CB300r, MT 03, and all other 300-500 cc naked bikes
Speed 400 looks Retro but it is more of a Naked Sports bike
The Speed 400 was meant to be a RE 350-500 cc killer in India. The classic + meteor + hunter sell some 50k pieces a month. Triumph and Harley (the 440x) both are aiming squarely at this market. It is sort of working with Speed selling an avg of 5,000 units per month. Though I personally feel that the Speed has a much peppier engine meant for Indian cities (crowded af) while the longer stroke Hunter is for the highway
@@sudharshangarg8936 and in the international market as well...Triumph has only ventured into this category because all the manufacturers are seeing the numbers RE are doing even internationally in this segment!
@@sudharshangarg8936 i dont know why you said longer stroke engine of hunter for highway. I have seen hunter cannot run continously on Highways either. Whereas Speed 400 can do 800kms (maybe more) easily in a single a day. I have done close to 650kms in a single already that too in 9 hours
@@roadrunner2757it all depends on local pricing, the triumph pricing in india was an absolute shock, the hunter which is the cheapest of the RE's 350 range is only about (₹30k) 300£ cheaper than the triumph about the same as the best selling Classic 350, and definitely a more advanced bike over the RE's.
Duke 390/bmw 310's/ Mt03 are all a lot costlier here
This Speed 400 owner is frankly IN LOVE with his Triumph!
I live in Southern California, near Malibu, and have been derply enjoying riding the tightly curved Decker and Latigo Canyon roads, but also the long sweepers on Mulholland Highway. As mentioned in the video, the Speed 400 is ideally designed and calibrated for such riding. From my perspective, that of veteran rider, nearly 60, the Speed 400 is as close to riding perfection I have encountered.
As someone a bit older than you, I tend to agree. The handling is really amazing....very flickable yet very stable and secure in the turns. The ride is also very comfortable. The light weight, combined with the surprisingly perky engine, really makes it a blast to ride. It reminds me of my early riding years when I rode a Honda 305 Superhawk.
Yea S 400 is the perfect bike but for a second bike ...simplicity and city/daily riding re is better... Although i expected better mileage given its lower stats
Thanks for sharing ... Seriously contemplating the speed or scrambler ..🤔
@@Plough78 Get a Triumph!! RE is good for city riding but that's about it, only 20PS doesn't go too far! Triumph's 40PS makes it a better overall bike
I have a Triumph Speed Twin 1200, which I love, but I like to keep her clean, so don't take her out if the roads are dirty, because frankly she is a pain to clean. I recently purchased a Hunter as a second bike. She does not get dirty, as the great mudguards keep the crud of the engine. She is blacked out, so much easier to clean, a quick wipe or a light spray is sufficient. This means I'm able to ride when the weather has been bad without worrying about getting her dirty. Yes the Triumph 400, is probably a better bike, but because of the design, I wouldn't want to ride her on dirty roads, for reasons given earlier, consequently less riding time.
The Hunter for a back road Bimbler is certainly a good choice, and very importantly for me, easy to live with.
From a Speed Twin 1200 rider, that's high praise indeed 😊. To be honest, each of these bikes appeal to a different customer. I've often found that I ride with a different mind set depending on which bike I'm on. The Hunter embraces the feeling you get when gently bimbling along enjoying the scenery. Like my CB300R, the Speed 400 probably enjoys being ragged and is great fun if a little more focused. Either way, great fun whichever the bike.
I purchased the hunter after selling my Suzuki M50 cruiser. I wanted something small, playful, and cheap. Its hard to beat the price on these for what you get. More importantly, it is simple to work on and my goal was to mess with it and make it faster.
It has all the right touches of modern, but feels like working on the 80's bikes I started on. I dont regret the decision. Its plenty fast for commuting on non highway roads, and it sounds fantastic. Fuel X smooths out the throttle, DNA gives it grunt, and once i get the cam and remove the cat, it will be a ruckus little bike.
Sure, in the end I may spend more than just having picked up the triumph, but the fun along the way, and experiencing the transformation is priceless.
I liked my Hunter and I rode it all around, it just lacked a bit of power, especially up hills. I traded up to a Speed 400. The seat on the Speed 400 is not as comfortable as the Hunter and I can’t get used to the buzziness in the bars, on longer rides my hand goes numb. Otherwise, the power the Hunter lacked is definitely apparent in the Speed 400. Also, I miss the center stand, especially when maintaining the chain. Lately on the Speed 400 (only 2800 miles) my check engine light is on and it always takes me turning the ignition key on / off to get it started. Talked to dealer / mechanic - they said it’s a known issue since 2023. Something to do with the chip in the ignition key not communicating with the immobilizer unit. To keep enjoy riding until Triumph creates an update to the firmware. Never had an issue with the little Hunter.
The engine has double the power, so the vibration will naturally be higher. However, I don't find it that intrusive when cruising up to 65 in 6th. Get some gel filled riding gloves. It cuts down on the numbness considerably. Haven't had any electronic issues at all with mine. Solid as a rock. Hope they get yours sorted out.
@@johnstone7697 thank you for sharing your experience and the info, much appreciated.
@@johnstone7697it doesn’t always follow that higher hp results in more vibration, it’s more down to engine design. Years ago I owned a BMW F650 single which had 50bhp and didn’t find it buzzy at all.
Yeah i have heard that and seen that with my friend's who had 400x scrambler and then a hunter.
When asked how are they he said "i think the hunter is slow but when it sees the prey , it hits it with deadeye precision, the 400 on the other hand literally runs with the prey and then takes it down."
I agree 💯 with what he says 😂.
@@saikrishnathiwakarrk interesting analogy … i tend to agree. Thank you for sharing your thoughts!
14:48 this whole sequence was quite funny, and quite informative.
love the fact you’re both just genuinely trying to figure out the difference in the seating position whilst doing this funny back and forth
RE all the way for me. They are just fun and relaxing rides. 👍
Trust me you will be Surprised the moment you test ride speed 400
Try the triumph
It is relaxed and got the power to go unrelaxed whenever needed
#metoo I've test ridden the Speed.. It was nice but prefer plodding along on my trusty gas ⛽ sipping , super comfy Meteor 350 🎉
*Plough* RE Fan Boy 😂
@@roadrunner2757 I would rather buy an RE Interceptor 650.. ❤
*Plough*
@@Plough78 all the Good Luck to you!!
Knowing the Reliability and Build Quality of RE's.
I had a Hunter and put 3,000 miles in it in 8 months. I loved that bike. Loved it. But I couldn't go faster than 70mph and couldn't get on the freeway. I would take side streets to get anywhere. So, heartbreakingly I sold it and upgraded to a Bonneville. Which has the same basic style and size dimensions and riding position. Love this new bike and can take it anywhere now. I've put more than 2,000 miles on it in the last two months. The 350 single was a great starter bike, but it was time to grow up.
Exactly my experience, I went from the Classic 350 to a T100 .
RE 350 engine is underpowered
Purely an american problem. Here the speed limit is 70 mph, even on 'freeway', so there's not much point to having more power.
If you like to go fast why are you wasting time on the 350/400 class of motorcycles?
@@user-rd3ou5ev6oSame here in Thailand . My Meteor 350 has all the grunt I need. Love it ❤
*Plough* 🎉. RE Fanboy 😂
Have a RE Classic 350. Did the cam, decat, DNA air cleaner, 16 tooth sprocket and Fuel X lite. Improved performance dramatically and still has the classic looks. If I want to go fast, I'll ride my Triumph T120. So I'd pass on the Triumph 400...
The 350 with its 20HP reminds me a lot of my Suzuki TU250X, with its 16 HP, but weighing 100 lbs less than the RE. From the reviews, the performance of the two seems to be pretty similar . For me, on US streets and secondary roads, it was just too slow, making me feel unsafe.. My Speed 400 is hardly a rocket ship, but it can easily pull away from cars at stop lights and get up to 60mph quickly enough giving you that extra margin of safety. Drivers in the US these days are always in a hurry (and distracted), and you need that acceleration to "keep you in the game". I can't stand constantly being passed while on my motorcycle. As for looks, while the Classic is very cool, the Triumph is certainly no slouch. I've gotten tons of compliments on mine, which has the red/gray tank.
Yes, the Hunter speedometer is off-centered to make way for the tripper navigation which can be purchased as an optional extra.
Absolutely love my 2023 Hunter 350, in the Rebel Blue. Center stand is great. Bar end mirrors, bash plate and adjustable controls installed by the previous owner. Bought it used with only 1,300 miles for $3,500 US. No dealer setup fee, no destination fee, and no documentation fees. Plus the first service and oul change had been done. Bike came with another complete oil and filter change. I highly recommend buying used. I often feel if the hunter had another 20 horsepower and lost 20 pounds it would be even more fantastic. So I am currently keeping an eye out for a slightly used Speed 400.
Can't go for the triumph as it is liquid cooled. I have the hunter 350 and I love it. If I wanted to go fast, I'd probably go for a 650-700 cc bike at least
Both are lovely bikes, I agree the styling of the Royal Enfield is better ❤
I have the Speed 400, and I agree! The Hunter definitely looks more elegant and a proper retro with the traditional forks, halogen lamp and that beautiful tail end design!
I picked the speed because I wanted a classic looking roadster, but with decent performance and modern components. Just wish they had gone with a simpler (and more effective) headlamp, black front fork cylinders and a more retro tail end design like the Hunter.
I feel the opposite. I like the speed 400 styling better personally.
Great video, if i was after a 2nd bike id go for the RE but if i could only have 1 bike then it would have to be the triumph.
This.
Id go with the triumph of these two. That said i give RE the most respect as they woke many manufacturers including Triumph up to the fact that sub 600cc can sell like hot cakes
I know it's a strange reason but it has to be the Enfield because I won't consider any bike without a proper front mudguard. Styling over practicality again
I've found the most honest reviews in this channel and this video was great eye openers to many out there. Thankyou from our side.
Hi, I find it better now that you're working together. The content is a winner . Good luck.
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Glad you think so!
The Triumph is a much better bike all round. Performance, weight, comfort, looks, finish, reliabiity, servicing, resale value and best of all more fun.
Completely agree. 5000km servicing on the RE vs 16,000km on the Triumph tells you which has more quality.
A few of those points are facts. The rest is completely subjective nonsense.
The Triumph is a Bajaj with a Bajaj engine with Triumph designed engine covers etc.. still the real comparison will be when the Sherpa engine goes into a Hunter chassis
Yes, RE is Just merchandising and poor quality
@@ahshisan NO
Thanks guys. An excellent video that nobody else really wanted to make 😊. Some very good points raised, and a lot of these echoed in the excellent comments.
Great review, I agree the Hunter is better in looks but it's the Triumph Speed 400 that I like more mainly due to better engine performance, more suited for the riding I would do. Here in New Zealand the price difference is only $405 NZ.
Both are excellent and refreshing to see new models of smaller capacity bikes. Waiting to see if Honda take the bait and a reincarnated CB400 four comes available.
The 400 four would be targeted at a much higher performance and sportier segment than these two though. I occasionally used to ride a 1975 cb400f. Pretty fun bike.
I have the Hunter and the fact that it was cheap as chips to buy and customise was a big plus. My only gripe is that it appears to be electrically limited to 72 mph so, whilst you can do things to increase acceleration and ridability, I now have a bike that tops out at 72 in 4th and 5th so 5th is now basically an overdrive. Still keeping it though - just love it.
I know looks are subjective but I have no idea how you could find the Hunter better looking than the Speed 400 but each to their own I guess. It has to be remembered that Royal Enfield prices have come down but even at £1000 difference I think the Triumph beats the Hunter on looks, performance and looks a more premium product with better components which all adds up to a more complete package.
I’d do the classic 350 (Signals Marsh Gray) AND the 400 Speed.
Already fast enough and power with an MV Agusta F4 RR and BMW R1100RT, so glad to see some lighter, easier going, heritage-ish bikes out there, especially for newer riders and us O.G.s wanting a second or more affordable, smaller and capable.
You two are the voice of reason and common sense. I loved that review!
Im gonna be "that guy" in the comment section who says..
"Nothing beats the classic 350". 😁😁
...except the Bullet 350...meh... 😛
I'm gona be that guy that tells you "only if chrome is really your thing or the ergonomics of the Hunter are not your thing and you are more like a rocking chair type of guy"
I do like the classic and bullet. Nice vintage styling.
@@Staromil 😂. My rocking chair rocks 😎
Funny reading these post .
I ride a intercepter 650
And I ride it daily on gravel and dirt roads . 6 mile each day .
I have many bikes . Seriously a barn full .
I'm thinking of the 350 because it is just cool . And I want one The triumph is over priced here in the center of the USA . 6500.00
Fact is I may fly to LA if I buy the 350 . And ride it back to Kansas City .
Triumph for me. With any luck I will be able to look at both the Speed and Scrambler today.
Regarding the offset Speedo on the Hunter, if you don’t want a Tripper nav pod, Hitchcocks sell a rev counter that fits in its place.
I fell for the Hunter's looks and that hasn't changed with the emergence of the triumph single. Whilst 40hp is enticing, for me the deal breaker is the Hunter's long stroke engine with it's low down torque and ability to plod along happily and comfortably at the lowest of speeds, ideal for exploring the smallest of lanes whilst enjoying one's surroundings. Having fallen in love with the Hunter, I don't mind spending some money on any mods that make the bike happier than Euro regs would otherwise allow: DNA wide open air filter with a decat pipe and stumpy 225mm end can from Delkevic have improved manners, performance, and sound tremendously without losing any of that low end grunt which has remained as smooth and accessible as ever. With the engine so much freer, it can even hustle a little.
I took a gamble with the non regulation exhaust can but I can now say I'm more than delighted with it. The short 225mm option was the only one that would fit without touching the side luggage racks. I was concerned it would be uncomfortably loud. However, with baffle in, it is loud but not too loud. It's certainly not offensive with normal relaxed riding. Best of all, the can simply amplifies the character of the long stroke single with nothing hooligan about it. (However, the stainless steel exhaust with a near vertical down pipe does change the bike's blacked out and rakish aesthetic somewhat, but nonetheless adds character in a more old world way).
19:29 Have to totally agree with you Alex! I have pretty much done the same to.my Hunter I have also added the fuel x pro plus and it goes like stink without taking away the character of the standard set up ! I'm glad you highlighted the concern of the Delkevic downpipe it seems they have followed the form of the Himalayan/ scram 411 which looks out of sorts with the downtube frame angle,,I have highlighted my concerns the Delkevic if more customers who bought this do the same maybe they might reconsider the design .
These TR series engines are crafted in such a way, that speed 400 have good amount of torque in low RPM's i glide through traffic sometimes 3rd gear on, No throttle no Clutch it glides through traffic easily at a speed of 20-25kmph
Man try the triumph
It has such good torque low down that you don't feel that it is a short stroke engine
Triumph 400 is the best thing in motorcycling world
Quality, fit n finish, simple, good performance and the price
The fairly steep steering angle is an important characteristic that also attracted me to the Hunter. I was curious what that would feel like, as it was my intention to learn slow speed riding skills (I'm 68 now and slow speed skills were not part of the driving test back in the day). Since I've had the Hunter I've already learnt how to do figure of 8's comfortably within the width of 20' / 6mtrs and also to do continuous circles in that space (a much more demanding a task on my V-Strom). The hunter's geometry is both confidence inspiring and incredibly forgiving in tight spots. I expected to have the odd tumble whilst practising, but so far that hasn't happened yet. As to stability, the lighter the grip and the less input on the bars, the better (watch Moto Control's RUclips channel for How-To and research based advice on bike handling). As to 'no hands' riding in a straight line, the Hunter feels more stable and reassuring than my '08 650 V-Strom, which too is an incredibly planted bike.
PS, I feel no compunction to test the Triumph 400, as I have the V-Strom for when power, speed, distance, or carrying capacity are of concern.
Hunter RE I bought after finding out that the finish on it was of a higher grade, living in the most populated country and commuting in never ending traffic, it still makes my mood change to - better. Had it for a year now, am very happy 🎉
@@vijays7579 great to hear 👍🏼
Great comparison guys! Both of these bikes were on my list. I chose the Speed 400, in my area I need the extra power. Plus I actually love the looks. Funny that both of those colors were my choice. 🤙🤙
The dial is offset because there was meant to be a Tripper display on the right hand side. However, due to the global chip shortage they do not have any and so are selling them minus the Tripper.
Big fan of RE but its really hard to recommend RE after riding the speed 400 personally. What a great bike it is and they are selling really well here in India. Im thinking of getting one for myself now after i had a test ride a month back.
For me, the choice is dead easy: Triumph. Cheaper, 2x as long service intervals and hece half the service costs, double the performance. Nicer engine sound, much better suspension... if I hadn't already ordered a Guzzi when I tested the Triumph, I might have bought it on the spot!
As an owner of a Royal Enfield 350, I can tell you that these engines really need a lot of break in time. They’re a completely different bike after about 2,500 miles from new. I love mine immensely now. It’ll never be fast but I enjoy it more than any others I own that are all much more powerful. Great video guys!
You both make watching YT videos fun! Thanks for the side by side. New rider here and I bought a classic 350 because of you. Considered bothe the Hunter and the Meteor, but went for the looks and comfort of the Classic! I love love love it!. Wanted a little more speed and picked up the SM 650.
Cost effective and so fun to have both bikes for different types of rides Thanks! Keep these coming!
Many thanks, and great to hear 👍🏼
Nice garage that Andy . I got a Meteor 350 but want to add another ... Interceptor maybe ..
Enfield looks, Triumph power... jobs a goodun... in the end I went for the Triumph Scrambler... being a lanky 6 footer the Scrambler fitted me. better... the lack of power of the Enfield was the deal breaker... At least with the Triumph, power is on tap for the odd motorway/A road excursion... Ride safe lads...😎👍
If it were my only bike, I'd go for the Triumph, it can handle highway speeds more comfortably and is generally more spirited to ride. If I were buying a second "around town" bike, then I'd pick the RE, as the power difference doesn't matter much at low speeds, and the RE has a lot of charm.
I think RE’s resurgence has made Triumph up their game, and that is evident in the Triumph 400s. I hope RE will respond by upping their game even more with an updated 650.
They already did. The RE's Sherpa Engine 450cc is what they are planting in 2 3 products. Himalayan 450 is already on board. Up next RE Gueirella
Like to see the RE Scram 411 alongside the Triumph Scrambler 400x.. thats what I'd be looking at if i wanted this engine sized bike, i think thats more of a interesting comparison
Very interesting. As always. Tough decision. I own a classic 350 and I love it. I like the Triumph but tbh, if I was going to buy a second bike, I'd want something larger. I'm hanging on for the Classic 650. Love the show. Keep it up. Oh! And the old man's spiffy boots were great! Got my wife's attention anyway. 😂
I’d go for the triumph, more power to cope with modern traffic
The Triumph is a more modern take on a classic theme. The Royal Enfield carries more of a traditional take with careful updates. I chose the Speed 400, it's just better allround!
Great video!!!! Id pick the Speed 400 right now but the new RE Guerrilla 450 coming out in July will be more of an even match to the Triumph and it will have more authenticity as a actual RE than the Triumph Speed 400 being perceived as a badge engineering job
The Speed 400 is more of a modern roadster with modern componentry, but a classic design. The new RE roadster will be more traditional in that sense, but the power will be on par with the S400. I do hope RE playes with the sprocketing and gear ratios to make it better for the low rev city performance compared to the Himalayan 450. But that is something RE generally doesn't do, case in point being the different 650s with same gearing.
But it will be a more interesting comparision for sure!
@@the_winged_helm What will the RE weigh? As much as I like their bikes, I find them rather heavy and a bit slow to respond on the handling side. One of Triumph's big advantages with the Speed 400 is its light weight.
@@johnstone7697 for most of the RE bikes, you'd be right. But there isn't much difference in weight between the S400 and the Hunter.
However, I understand that the rear suspension on the Hunter is not setup well. The Triumph definitely has the more sophisticated setup.
Thanks in part to your reviews I traded my Hunter for a 2020 V7 Stone. Extremely happy with my choice! I had the Tripper on the Hunter just to balance the looks. Didn’t like the function of the Tripper. The Moto Guzzi also has the speedo offset. A minor annoyance. The Quadlock with vibration damper is HUGE compared to the Peak Design phone mount, and they all come with vibration damping. Why do you care what you look like on it? The best way I can improve my looks is a full face helmet!😂 To me it’s all about the feelings.
Hello guys, well done for covering this, I'm sure this is one comparison fans of either bike won't want to miss. Really enjoyed hearing your thoughts and top job all-round as always!
Glad you enjoyed it! 😊
In India, a navigation meter is available as an additional accessory from Royal Enfield, designed to be mounted on the right side of the speedometer. This may be why the speedometer is positioned off-center, though I also feel it would have looked better if placed in the center.
Meteor 350s are currently discounted to 2999+OTR, Hunters can't be far off. I agree with the Old Man that the Royal Enfield is the better deal, at 5k the Triumph is more than halfway towards a Honda 500, or Benelli or CFMoto 450 etc, all of which are substantially more of a bike.
I have hunter 350 as it’s my first bike and wanted to see if I could get into riding motorcycles. Certainly a good bike for people starting out as it has marketed. Good price and good looking bike. In the beginning when I started out riding this itself felt fast as it was my first time but I had no mods in it. Slowly I started craving for more speed to which I did a modification in Hunter. I changed the stock air filter and the stock filter opening cover. I installed DNA air filter and the bigger opening cover it was the best decision as the bike got slight increase in the grunt , the throttle response was smoother and faster, at higher rpms it just easily gives that smooth kick especially while overtaking on 2nd and 3rd gear. Another modification I did was flat bench seat definitely a good choice as you can adjust yourself comfortably in any seating position and it definitely enhanced the look of the bike additional bar end mirrors added a good touch . Mine is Rebel red and it looks quite sexy and raw at the same time. I think these mods are more than enough for Hunter to keep it simple , elegant and functional in various commutes like city or tourer. Very Nimble and good bike if you want to enjoy riding without having aggressive speed and other things. But I am craving slightly more adventurous so looking into new KTM supermoto launch I guess it’s going to be on 390 platform . Already thought of buying a continental GT but waiting for Royal Enfield new line up upgrade as recently saw a spy shots of Interceptor 750.
I own a re 350 classic, military style in sand colour, i put the dna filter on, it really makes a difference. However, this watercooled triumph is all over this hunter in looks and performance. The only thing they have in common is, they are great value for the money. 👍
Looks like a bonneville? It's definitely a compliment in my opinion. I agree that the dial design goes to Royal Enfield and both dials should be centered. By the looks of the front forks and muffler Triumph wins those two categories. I like the front turn signals on the Enfield, but I like the look of the Triumph larger headlight better. If I had to choose a test ride of both would definitely be required....and fun😁
Hmm, at 5'8" with a 31 & 5/16ths" inside leg (thankfully both sides), I can see that Triumph making a nimble little 'cafe racer'- with 40bhp on tap, it's Shirley Worth an alloy tank, rear-sets & short bars - just to blow the nose-bag off Enfield's rather 'Dobbin' GT's AND have lots of fun without necessarily throwing your license straight through the nearest judicial shredder. Maybe I'm just an old hooligan eh? : )
Your efforts into making these videos are much appreciated
Many thanks 😊
Great comparison VDO, lads 👍
I do love my Hunter. Upgraded suspension front and rear. DNA filter and cover. Mini crash guard and flyscreen. Mandatory Quadlock on the bars. Great little commuter. Some decent tires next. Thanks chaps.
I think the Royal Enfield Guerrilla 450 is proper competition for the Triumph Speed 400. On the other hand, the Hunter is just the Hunter, no complication -a simple, fun-to-ride bike, nothing more, nothing less.
Both are good looking bikes but at 6ft 2in I'd go for the RE Scram 411, especially at the moment when many dealers are selling them off at £3700. I'm tempted as a second bike for Winter use when my Honda CB 1100RS is hibernating.
Older rider here and now that they put radiators on bikes I’ll never get an air cooled bike again. Summer heat is enough without the engine heat radiating up on me. Both look great. Great review.
I say that is an issue but the fans usually kicks in fast. Cause these bikes are designed and manufactured in India for Indian climate and roads. So the heat in India is excruciatingly hot, so the manufacturers knows these problems and try to work it out. Europe heat should not be that big of an issue. However if you are in Middle east or a place where its as hot as India or more then water cooled is the way to go.
Es al contrario , las de refrigeración líquida con la euro 5 se enciende el ventilador enseguida y tira todo el calor al cuerpo .
I haven't tried the Triumph yet but had a Hntr out for a test tide. I see you're Enfield had a loose rear view mirror, so did mine! 😄.... The lack of performance would put me off the Enfield also it felt small to me and too twitchy somehow. Great value though both of these!
I own a Hunter and a neighbour own the Triumph. Enfield feels like a simple seat on an engine. Just the basics. The Triumph feels like a high maintenance machine which would complain if I don't meet her demands. It's really an expensive and high-maintenance motorcycle for Indian conditions. The Triumph is a lot quicker but throws me off every time becuase it lacks character. It feels like any Bajaj motor. Ultimately it goes down to preference and both are great machines and what a time to live!
Love the styling of Royal Enfield, easily beats the speed 400 but in terms of spec and value for money, I gotta have it to the triumph, don't get me wrong here, really love that hunter, but until I get to ride both, I don't have a final decision
The triumph is more what younger riders will go mad for I think. It's kind of what the Japanese were doing in the 80s, a fast nimble mid size bike. They're both great for what they are but I think the Triumph has it here. Great comparison.
I own a Speed 400 from past 10 months. Now both these bikes are way too much different. Speed 400 is a Hoonigan, and have Heart like Sports Naked bike. Speed 400 carries lot of quality.
Hunter 350 is just a cost cutted classic 350 thats it.
So this was a very interesting review to watch! About 5 months ago when I was taking my lessons these were the exact two bikes I was looking at and thinking about which one I should get. I absolutely agree with your review and summary of them. I was quite torn as to which one to get, the Hunter seems like great value for money but the Speed 400 feels like a bike you’d keep longer with it’s extra power for when you’d want to us it etc.. I think ultimately for me one of my main concerns was would I be bored in 6 months time as I like a mix of riding and would want to keep a bike for a few years. But then after looking through some of your other bike reviews I came across the ol’ man’s review of the Triumph Street Twin 900! Have to say I’d very much recommend watching that review, it sold it to me! I passed my test about 3 months ago and bought a second hand 2019 Street Twin with just over 1k miles on the clock for £6k. I think it’s superb and is happy at both low speeds as well as high, very manoeuvrable. So just to add really that if someone was also considering a second hand bike for slightly more then I think that’s also worth a look too.
That was a good idea, a very useful comparison.
Just been out around the Algarve hills with my friend who has a Hunter. He loves it, and rides it so skillfully around the bends it's hard to keep up with him. He also has a Ninja H2 and other sports bikes like the Suzuki GSX so the fact he likes the Hunter speaks volumes. Either that, or he uses it so I can (just about) keep up with him 😂. PS he's put a 19 inch front wheel on the Hunter, instead of the 17 inch that comes as standard, as he says it rides better, and looks better.
Lovely chat. I LOVE the Guzzi🖤
Thank you!!! I’m so in love with it too 😁
Exactly the comparison I was looking for. Thanks, lads!
I have a Hunter 350 and I'm thinking about upgrading to the Speed 400. The price in Colombia is quite a bit more, so I'm not sure if it's worth it.They both look very pretty by the way
i love how both father and son have the same reaction and mannerisms when it comes to greeting strangers
I own speed 400 and that’s also my first bike. Having ridden it for nearly a year I can surely tell you the bike is a head-turner on looks. She rides well and fast too if needed. She got a character and sound that will want to you to ride her more. Hunter is a good bike too but for a grand extra, triumph offers a lot more.
Before these Triumph 400s came out I used to toy with the idea of getting a Hunter to customize into a scrambler. With the Triumph Scrambler 400 just being about 1500 dollars more it wouldn’t make sense to dump so much money into a hunter vs just getting the scrambler
Love the minimalistic designs from Royal Enfield and these long stroke engines give good thumps
Good comparison 👍and please keep the vintage bike rides coming - really enjoyed that
Great Vid again, I really like your content generally, but when you are reviewing together i feel you get a more nuanced review! Great Job!
I'm 6'1" plus boots, and curious as to the fit of the 400. Now that I'm 75 and have sold my last big bike (Yam 1200 Tenere) I still can't get used to walking into an empty garage. I don't tour anymore, but would still like a Sunday bike.
@@BigYouDog did you watch all of the video? We are a similar height and talk about this 👍🏼
Still yet to try the speed, rode the 400x last week on demo and loved it other than the clutch lever and handlebar angle killed my arthritic thumb, hopefully speed rectifies this , went off Enfields after sitting on them, just find them very heavy for what they are although i like the looks.
Great review, really worked well with you both doing it, being able to have a conversation about the bikes between you helped the review. For these two I would pick the Triumph, I actually think as a town bike the RE 350’s don’t work as they do not have the power to get away from traffic so again the Triumph for me. However if this comparison was Triumph with the Classic, I would pick the Classic as for me the looks are what appeal to me and I would use it for country lane bimbling and the power wouldn’t matter.😊
RE is launching Guerilla 450 based on liquid cooled sherpa engine used in Himalayan in August ! That would definitely beat Triumph in looks and performance !
I love my Royal Enfield ! Great for a beginner I feel super comfortable
Love the speed 400 it’s a great bike
Agreed!
Triumph Speed 400 is the better bike for performance-oriented riders who are willing to spend more money. The Royal Enfield Hunter 350 is a good option for budget-minded riders who prioritize style and slow-speed handling.I am a huge fan of Royal Enfield but I am not happy with hunder 350 🥴 🖤
Couldn’t resist the price tag of $3.5K and got the Speed back in September 2023 as my second bike.. Can’t be happier about it..
Speed is the better looking of the two to my eyes..
Once again, if you can afford the triumph go with that. The service intervals alone tell you the quality difference. 16,000kms vs 5000kms, it’s not even close! I have a T100 2021 and an Interceptor 650. 9,500kms in and the interceptor 650 has blown its gearbox (spacer between gears broke, went around the gearbox and damaged everything). 8 months wait for parts to come and repair to be done. Totally have lost faith in the brand. Also I have ridden the hunter. It is fun as all motorcycles are but completely runs out of legs on the motorway (above 100kph/60mph) which can feel a bit dangerous. I disagree that the Triumph is less suited for city riding. It’s completely suited and at 179kg vs 181kg, the triumph is lighter!
As an Indian in my country The triumph speed 400 makes a lot of sense for the purpose of a city bike ... the air cooling of RE becomes a pain in the afternoon when during summers the temperature outdoor can be higher than 40 celsius ... the heat from the engine of RE in summers is really uncomfortable .. moreover the triumph is lighter and accelerates faster ... making way through the crowded roads will be easier with a light weight vehicle and the quick acceleration will help in staying ahead of the crowd ...
I am not a biker (yet), but a second hand RE 350 can be had for quite a bit less than the Triumph, so I just might go that road and see how it goes.
I've got a 600 and needed a second bike for commuting and short runs so I don't have to keep using the 6.. so I've gone for the hunter... I don't need performance, I've got my big bike for that, I wanted something far more chilled that was a completely different ride to my 600/4... the triumph would have just been a slower, slightly retro version of my bigger bike.... ish...
Buy a nearly new hunter for around 3k, job done. Hitchcocks sell a bracket that will centralise the speedometer clock on the Hunter.
Living in the U.K. the Triumph is so capable. Even if you wanted to tour t could cope. have a bigger bike with panniers etc to go with my touring buddies but, moving on, and a choice of just one bike, the Speed 400 might be the one to stay in the garage. 80+ mpg, 200+ range and comfortable all day.
The engine and brakes of the Speed 400 in the Hunter ? Would that be your choice and would ik be a good bike ? I bought a blue 400, red takes to long to deliver, black at least one month, blue in stock.
Is that the ol man's new home in the background?
I have Harley's at home but I am headed to the UK to buy a motorhome. I was just looking at the dimensions of the Hunter to see if I could squeeze it into the garage and travel around with it. But you reminded me that the Triumph is an option. Coming off a Harley do you think 20 hp might be a bit painful for me to adjust to? Should I go the triump? Love your work.
The Royal Enfield is fine for country back roads and cities but not if you want to ride faster roads 👍🏼
People are making a lot about the difference in service intervals for these two bikes, but for a lot of U.K. owners who tend to be older riders who mostly ride in warmer, drier months it’s irrelevant as both bikes will need to be serviced annually and the bikes will be serviced long before milage requirements say. I used to own a HONDA CRF250L which had 8000 mile or 12 month service intervals, guess which always came first?
Here in Brasil the speed 400 cost near the super meteor price. The hunter is about 2/3 of the speed 400 price.
Agree that the RE's better looking but for me the Triumph's spec makes it worth the additional money. Unlike you two I'm a short-@rse. I've sat on both Triumph 400s at my local dealer and for the short of stature the Speed is probably the better choice if getting both feet firmly on the ground is a priority. The Scrambler was still doable (it's a light bike) albeit I was on tip toes or off to one side.