We live in a boring dystopia. There could've been clones and extreme dna mods but no we have. "uwu you didn't pay youw ink biww teehee now you can't use youw pwintew"
@@notfundy240 You can blame the standard of medical research ethics and the FDA ban on ethnically challenging research such as gene editing, cloning, and genetic manipulation.
@@MondoChow777If they continued what they were doing in the 60s, maybe we could've had human clones by now. But hey, that's kinda stupid and brings more problems; I'm glad they realised that.
@@notfundy240 You're upset we don't have stuff that screws with DNA? I mean, there's lots of other ways to screw yourself up right now. Worked out so well for AstraZenica right?
We Will come back to monk, medieval scripture and paper press so Quick. Why i have to Buy for something free Everywhere. It's not like domestic printer print faster than my hand with a pen.
Tell that to the service industry. I think it makes sense in some products that require constant upkeep like software, cloud services etc. Otherwise you'll be stuck with a software that's outdated and they won't provide constant services to repair bugs and issues. But the contract should be written in such a way that people can opt out if they want.
Only thing that comes into play is liability (two parts). Liability where people try to modify their electronics that is still under warranty, break it trying to modify it (possibly due to ESD or busting a capacitor, etc), then try to pass it off as natural failure. Outside of warranty, no issues, but I can see the reason for companies to be hesitant for "home tinkerers". The second liability comes with safety (particularly with new self driving cars). Installing parts incorrectly or cheap parts may cause the car to respond erratically, and then becomes difficult to determine said modification in a car wreck (particularly in electric cars if the battery shorts and then ignites the car). But many other cases (like printers/laptops/etc), it's just a money grab.
I'm like okay give me license but be much cheaper than the real ownership version. For example I could finish a game I don't plan to replay a lot so I could 'risk"it getting taken away. But a lovable game I want to keep forever
@@alihorda the subscriptions aren't cheaper. They're much much more. Over time it adds up to far more than if just bought a game cartridge that the buyer owns. Everything is turning into subscription even our printers and coffee makers. That is turning everything into an expensive nightmare
@@kosmas173you wouldn’t be pirating the car, but the software and program. Any how, it’s getting out of hand. I can’t even use my printers scanner to upload images when the printer runs out of ink. They hold its functionality hostage till it’s replaced.
One of the dumbest things I've heard is companies like BMW charge you a monthly subscription fee to use the heated seat feature in your car. You already BOUGHT the car, but you can't use the heated seats without paying extra. YET, regardless if you opt in or out of this ridiculous add-on it's installed in the car. That sounds like the definition of a SCAM
BMW and Mercedes both have inbuilt tracking systems in the engine management system . If you renagage on your lease payments, they will repossess the vehicle . However, if your car is paid for and is subsequently stolen , then you're on your own Jack ! They won't assist you in locating your car , because they fully expect you will buy a new replacement . Tio , buy the lowest mileage pre 2002 Mercedes diesel you can find and have it regularly serviced, and it will last you a lifetime .
@@josuastangl7140 oh yes, for sure! But warranty is until some point. I think it was 5 years or 10 at max. After that you can do whatever you want with the car. In Europe there are many people who buy second hand cars and most of them are without warranty, and that is the case I am talking about.
@@aj_mcnamara Taking the pins means the bowling alley has fewer pins. Taking a picture of the pins and using it to manufacturer your own pins is equivalent to "piracy"
If someone made a 1:1 copy of the bowling alley and let you play there for free, the first alley is the "victim" of "piracy" in the same way that streaming platforms or tech companies are
@puddlejumper3259 But that's not what piracy is doing. Tons of products/software people buy can be set up with open source liscenses. That's building the pins. Most piracy is more like sneaking into a movie theater or concert. The information is what is being "sold".
@@aj_mcnamara If the gap between my statement and your poor interpretation of it were any narrower we wouldn't be able to fit my pirated media collection through it.
Yep. Good ol days of pride in craftsmanship, integrity, honesty and made in America are all long gone. Its only getting worse. "You will own nothing and be happy."
Eh, that's becoming an issue as well. I forget which racing game it is but the studio that made it shut down the server for the game and now no one can play it. Even those with physical discs. Can't play offline or the single player campaign. Players were told they just need to get used to not owning the games that they buy.
This is such a stupid argument made by people who don't have a single original thought in their brain. Try and think for yourself before you regurgitate bullshit.
@@ms.pirate it's always great to support small artists! However, I think there's a big difference in pirating Taylor Swift's music and pirating your local indie band's. One is a literal billionaire whose livelihood will never be affected by anything you do, and one does rely on every bit of income they get.
@@ms.pirate Most indie creators believe in preserving their medium, we fight hard so that our creations can be preserved over time without having to depend on a service (as far as possible)?
Until they make newer TV's to where there's no way to connect a DVD player or blueray player. I hate that games are mostly not physical copies anymore. Soon everything will be non physical copies so we can't own anything.
@@paulagoeringer9466 kinda unrelated to owning stuff but they also got rid of adobe flash drive, so I can no longer play my favourite childhood online games :(
I remember when record labels started putting drm control on CDs, so you couldn't rip them and, since it was Windows/Apple based, I couldn't even listen to them because I had a Linux computer. Awful stuff
@paulagoeringer9466 Unless the players themselves stop being produced *and* the industry standard changes from HDMI to something else afterwards, that's extremely unlikely. Game consoles, streaming devices, and plenty of other TV peripherals all use HDMI, and even if both of those criteria do occur, there will no doubt be HDMI -> whatever the new format is converters like how there are AV -> HDMI converters now.
Piracy is legit becoming the only way to archive old games for example. Because complanies can just discontinue them and everyone playing loses access unless they have a pirated copy. Messed up times we live in.
An digital book store company had shut down along time ago (I don't remember the year, somewhere between 2016 - 2018), and to pour salt on the wounds, they took away everyone's libraries. I'm getting things physically
I've always preferred buying physical media since it meant it couldn't be retroactively taken from me. A lot of people around me growing up thought I was silly, and that everything being digital was far more convenient. Until recently, when companies stopped hosting some of the media they bought.
@@kelpermoon23 "buying" implies it's a lifetime license. Of your life (or the platform providing the service, whatever ceases to exist first), not the life of the contracct between a platform and a publisher.
Of course they are. They're just being quiet about it, like a bunch of the shit that slips through. They're so full of themselves that I struggle to think of ways they would even change their minds.
People should start suing these companies when they "revoke" products that are bought! If a company is gonna take my movies, shows, music or games away after I've already paid for them, I see no reason why I shouldn't just pirate my own stuff instead.
@@holyromanemperor420oh no. A multi billion dollar company loses a bit of money here and there so they're gonna screw over the millions of paying customers to make up for it.
@@hanzzel6086 People who pirate things pirate things not because they theoretically wouldn't be able to see movies they supposedly "bought" if the host goes bankrupt, but because they don't want to spend money on it/don't have money. Also, you still haven't addressed my argument. What do you even mean by "owning" movies and series? And would you have the money to BUY each one of those movies and series you watch?
@@holyromanemperor420 A big part of most current (game) piracy is simply to have an *actual permanent copy* of the thing. And you would own *a copy* of it. You would be able to produce as many copies for your own *personal use* as you like, but would not be allowed to distribute it.
I personally believe in the right to repair any item you purchase and also the right to modify any item you purchase to make it better and work more efficiently maintenance if necessary
@@pyrobaka5227modifications aren’t supposed to void warranty in the us but the law doesn’t apply to any mega corporations. They can only void the warranty if they can prove that you damaged the product by modifying it. Here’s an example. Let’s say you upgraded the hard drive and six months later then screen stops working. That would still be covered under warranty but since the consumer protection laws are not enforced in the us the warranty would be void. You might be able to get around these bs policies by putting the original hard drive back in, if there is no warranty sticker but otherwise you could maybe go to small claims, I’m not sure how that works.
This is why I keep copies of my music despite having a subscription. I bought a song but the record company redid the licensing and the song vanished from my library. Luckily I kept a physical file of it on my computer but still. I would highly recommend keeping mp3 files of your favorite music. Because you never know if a song you like will vanish from your library.
If you purchase a license agreement, you never owned the software to begin with. You are illegally obtaining said software if you don't have a license to access it, which is, at the bare minimum, theft of a potential sale causing direct monetary damage to the company. There is plenty of legal precedence for being sued for this.
If a company calls it buying/ purchasing, and refers to "your content", but hides the legalese on page 27 of their EULA, they're not being upfront about what they're providing you. You're being mislead that you're buying or purchasing, like having rights to property that you own. But they can take away said rights, and alter the deal that you can't say no to in any way, or negotiate in any form? Scummy moves that screw the consumer, that companies get away with.
@@kassmalz2069 imagine insulting someone for explaining how the world works. Next you're going to tell me I'm a landlord's "butliker" because I explained to you how rent and mortgages work. Clearly this subject is beyond your comprehension. I suggest learning how to read and write basic English before you try to wrap your feeble and insufficient mind around basic transactions, contracts and license agreements.
@@Judithica Well, there is other side of medal. I cannot legally buy stuff on Steam, all payments are restricted since 24th february 2022. It especially hurts when you need to buy some in-game content and not an actual game. So you have to look for foreign services in Kazakhstan or somewhere else and overpay 20-50% to buy something you need...
I really felt the printer one. I foolishly agreed to only use HP:s Ink in my current printer for its lifetime, a decision that will likely cost me more than the price of the printer.
Yeah, HP got a lot of us with their low entry price and high ink prices. Glad the internet has fully documented how shit of a company they are and at least some other people can avoid them now.
Might be time to run the numbers and cut your losses. I heard Brother is a company that hasn't been doing that and is easy to deal with. Also Epson. My current HP is one of the last good ones, when it dies, I'm never owning another HP.
I have an old HP that’s okay, before they enforced ink drm. I will never buy another HP printer due to this, and I try to avoid HP in other cases as well for the same reason.
Totally agree. The entire economy is like this now. I'm slowly regressing back to tech that worked great in the first place. Cory Doctorow's work definitely convinced me.
Reminds me of when I worked at a theater with an IMAX... the Imax company is/was able to log remotely into the machine and take it over for repairs, updates etc..for however long they wanted, whenever they wanted. Huge pain in the butt waiting for them to finish doing whatever to it when our theater was busy and I needed to start a show soon. Thankfully, it finished, and the movie was on time. But, I'm a huge fan of owning cds/dvds etc.
@siral2000 if I buy something to play or watch, I should be able to play or watch it wherever I want, and not need a internet connection. If thst purchased product can get stolen from me by the company I bought it from. Why should I even buy it or buy anything else from them in the future? At that point, pirating is better. Negative times a negative equals a positive afterall.
See, the difference here is that, if you actually read the license agreement, you'd know that you never owned the game to begin with. Even games on CDs and cartridges are not yours. You merely own the medium, but the software itself is proprietary and comes with an EULA where you agree that you only have a license to use the data. If you OWNED the data, you'd be allowed to do everything you ever wanted with it and the company couldn't do anything to stop you. But since you only have a license to use it under specific conditions, the company can sue you for tampering with the data, copying it or reselling it unless doing so is protected by law - as is the case in the EU, where you're allowed to make back-ups of digital media for personal use.
@@SleepyFen In my country (Germany/EU), the EULA is void because you are forced to agree to it after you bought it, so after the contract has been concluded. We have laws regulating licenses. This is the case even for free software when the EULA isn't signed before the download. Also, in Germany specifically, "surprising ToS" or "ToS that put the consumer at an unfair disadvantage" are prohibited. Your license being revoked because of a contract between two parties ending ticks both those boxes. Digital purchases / licenses can't just be revoked one-sided, not without a proper refund at least.
Just wait until more people hear about software subscriptions like Microsoft Office and Adobe Acrobat (the OG of draconian software sales). A few game distributors are beginning to do it too. It's not gonna stop while people keep feeding the beast. The first time I saw a commercial in a movie theater (mid 1990s?), I was livid. My GF asked why I was so angry over a 15 second commercial, and I said it would only stop if people stopped coming to theaters, which they won't. These days there's ten minutes of commercials. The trailers are cool, but the ads prove they own us, because we're never gonna do squat about it.
Thats why it matters where you spend your money. Because if you support those systems with your money, those systems will spread to other companies. The videogame industry showed us how fast that can happen.
This is a strictly Us problem btw. In the EU it is, mostly, pretty clear: if you bought it and aren’t disruptive with your usage of the object/software ie: cheating in a online videogame, manufacturing pirated copies etc. your ownership cannot be revoked
No. The central bank in Europe issues the same debt note currencies that are issued in America. Anyone using a debt note currency does not own what they think they own when they pay for it with their debt note currency
@@TrevorHamberger im gonna ignore you cause you entirely missed the fing point and idk if you just have roomtemp iq or are willfully ignorant. either way: im not gonna engage with that
@@deadfisher0000 you being ignorant of the mechanics of money does not bother me in the slightest bit. You're the one who's poor and doesn't know why. You don't even know you're going to get poorer
It's straight back to bonded servitude under our new corporate overlords. It's ironic, isn't it. America was founded on people who hated the monarchy and yet it fostered corporate oligarchy in its place.
I would also like to add even though dvds are not very common. I still purchase dvds every time I go to the goodwills. Or the family values, or any sort of thrift store operated system.
Thanks for shedding awareness to this. It’s definitely a problem. I have an Epson printer and anytime it runs out of ink, they hold my scanner function I use to upload hand drawn images and photos hostage till it’s replaced. It often makes me wanna throw it out the window or disassemble it 😂
Right to Repair is just an add-on to ' Rent-Seeking ' under ' Anti-Trust '. Rent-Seeking has become the number one most violated law by businesses, unless the business is Disney where they go with violated contract law like its candy.
@@OtatsukeIt's basically trying to charge you more for something you already own, like additional features. For example, if you buy a brand new BMW, you own the car, but if you spec heated seats, in the past, you would pay for the option once, and it would be fitted for you. Now, it's already fitted in the car regardless, but you have to pay a subscription to use them, despite owning the car. A bit like renting a property back to you, that you already own, hence "rent seeking". It's just a sneaky way of squeezing more cash out of you for the same thing.
Agree it all needs to change. I will not ever buy a HP printer. Brought a Raven Scanner and now the company no longer exist…the scanner will not work without an online account.
This could go in three directions and I certainly hope you mean the corporations are who stopped it because corporations buy out politicians regardless of party
I own all my stuff. If a company doesn't give me control over something I have, there are two options: Either I manually take control by force or it gets returned to the store.
I buy the shows and movies I really like on blu ray and if they're streaming I buy the bootlegs or "for your consideration" copies from eBay. Furniture is fully bought or thrifted. Car is paid off. I have some cds and vinyl but am still working on a full music collection.
@@kevinwalker6840i doubt you've even met this random youtube commenter, how do you know whether they've paid for their home or not? What's that got to do with anything anyway? Would you prefer an economy where you were weren't allowed to borrow money to buy a house?
@@SineN0mine3 It's not about if you had to borrow money or not. Even if you have all your property paid off you still have to give the government rent or they will take what you supposedly own.
@@kevinwalker6840 The government can take his home, nature can take his home an earthquake could swallow it whole, it can get nuked to dust. We truly don't 'own' anything. Just worried about the rights to it under law, and gov. Makes those laws 🤷♂️
The objectively correct answer is that buying something is a contract, and the terms of the contract must be listed, otherwise the contract is void. TLDR companies must explicitly state the terms otherwise you can demand a refund
@@Nigjaslayer9000 Sadly, the dvd's for games these days usually act like a game key and just trigger the download associated with it. And if the publisher decides to shut it down, you SOL.
@@RickDangerousNL call me old fashioned but the dvds that i use don't need a download. It does not use internet. Maybe because most games i play are single players
@@Nigjaslayer9000 Good, glad you can still find those, but they are getting rarer. Some games don't even have a physical release. I hate that though. I'm am old school myself :D
I say there should be a law that replaces every "buy" option on steam/epicgames/online shops/etc. With a "rent license". Remember kids: "pirating isn't stealing if buying isn't owning"
I've been saying this since 2004 when a software I bought wouldn't install 2 years after I bought it because it required "remote activation" and the company just decided they "don't support that product " anymore.
@@stankssmile5865 You just learned what a capitalist is. Capitalist: the resources are owned by a few people. Communist: the resources are owned by the state, no one owns. Socialist: people can own, although the important resources are only owned by the state. Example: people cannot own oil mining rig.
@@stankssmile5865 No, it's not. Who is expecting to have the copyright to a movie for $10? This has actually greatly benefited average consumers, that's why it's so successful.
one day we're gonna get real-life holodecks and hard light constructs purely so that previously physical-only things like appliances can be exclusively sold via cancellable license.
“…like Tesla, control via software how much charge the battery can hold depending on how much you pay”. It is true that Tesla has (in the past) released more capacity over a software update (essentially freeing up some of the safety buffer), but these updates are free. They HAVE offered to release more power to the motors (increasing 0-60 times) for a fee (Power boost), but they have not charged any fees (that I am aware of) for increasing the capacity of a battery in their vehicles after sale. I am curious to know where you got this information since I find your channel to be very well informed in all other respects.
Ok, I see now (the hint was the Model S graphic you used in the video). For a short time in 2013, Tesla sold a “40KW” Model S that actually had a larger (60KW) battery in it. So the car was built with a 60KW battery, but the customer was charger for only the 40KW that they had access to. This made for a lower price point for the entry level vehicle, with Tesla deciding to eat the cost of the extra 20KW instead of engineering a smaller pack. However, they gave owners the opportunity to unlock that extra capacity for a free. Something similar was done with the model 3 in Canada a few years ago. Tesla technically had an “off menu” lower range variant (which you had to phone them directly to order). They did this in order make their vehicles eligible for the tax rebate (there was a minimum sticker price threshold). However, Tesla made it clear that there would never be a software unlock of the hidden battery capacity (because they never actually wanted to sell any of those software limited vehicles, they just wanted to get through an EV rebate loophole.
People that bought the 40kW version did not pay for the other 20kW. The 40kW and 60kW versions were identical (except for price). 60kW purchasers got 60kW and paid for it. 40kW purchasers got access to 40kW (that were paid for) and the option of accessing the other 20kW if the wanted to pay for it. There was a downside to the 40kW purchasers and that was that their efficiency would have been better if Tesla had removed the “dead weight” of those batteries.
@@I.C.Weiner Except, it wasn't paid. Did you even read it? You paid for the capacity you chose. In other words, they charged you the value of a 40kWh battery for a 60kWh battery car with 40kWh software restricted capacity. So you didn't really lose anything. They did this because it was hard to reengineer the battery pack(Tesla batteries are made up of numerous small cells and are each equipped with special battery control systems for faster charging, hence the difficulty in engineering a smaller pack) for 40kWh variants.
Corporate GREED must be stopped!!! People aren't going to take it anymore !! 😡 we are pissed off at these greedy, selfish corporate giants. Do everything we can to stop the corporate corruption !!!!
Banning companies from doing limiting people's choice is counterproductive. It's far more productive to get rid of the laws, such as patent and copyright law, that privilege the companies and get them the undue positions they hold in the first place.
Ok, but that's just a dumb excuse. I can understand people getting angry over hardwares getting blocked even though you paid for it fully but digital? Yeah no. Subscription is still very cost effective. You obviously aren't buying the copyright to the movie/series when you "buy" them. If it's a subscription, it's even more messed up. You aren't getting screwed over, you are paying the amount of money that would typically allow you to watch a single movie for one time to have access to tens of thousands of movies and shows for a month.
It used to not be taken away though. Now I try to only use open source when possible. I’m willing to pay, but not if I believe it will be taken away (not updated to support new os releases is expected though)
There's a reason I still buy vinyl records! 😁 Once I buy it, it belongs to me! It can never be altered, remixed, revoked, or discontinued. Even if the record gets banned or the company goes out of business, I can still enjoy what I've already purchased 😍 With streaming, I'm at the mercy of whatever company I'm subscribed to 🙏 They might go out of business or lose their rights to stream certain albums
I think a lot of people overlook the nuances of the subscription-based model. For some apps the subscription fee seems to be in payment of a service (services to keep a cloud storage running or keep software functioning after OS updates, like in the case of music apps and browser extensions, or services to add new features and content, like in the case of phone apps or streaming services or content creators). In cases where an app or website needs active upkeep, I think it's harmful that people expect it to be free. We wouldn't give our labor away free, so why do we expect others (mostly programmers and entertainers) to do the same? It has nothing to do with the right to repair or planned obsolescence. Whatever tesla and other hardware companies are doing with their batteries tho, that should rightly be treated like a crime.
I think the expectation for some of these would be paid versioning, like Adobe CS used to be or Cinema 4D. If there’s a lot of API calls involved, sure, maybe, but recently a camera sop called Folkic Pro went subscription based with one of the options being WEEKLY lol
That's the excuse that's basically removed the option of permanent licenses from the market. Maybe if these markets weren't complete monopolies their competitors would offer better alternatives.
@@SineN0mine3 What do you mean they are monopolies? Really? Amazon, Disney+, and Netflix are all big players and there are also many local, smaller companies.
About that Tesla thing, there is more nuance to it. 1) This happened some years ago and they have discontinued it. 2) There was a 60kWh model of a car. Then they also added a CHEAPER 40kWh model. But this 40kWh model had a battery pack of 60kWh, because Tesla battery packs are very complicated and it would have taken too much money to reengineer the 60kWh models into actual 40kWh models). The 40kWh model was cheaper than the 60kWh model. In other words, the consumers were getting a 60kWh restricted battery model for the price of a 40kWh battery model. So the consumers didn't actually "own" the extra 20kWh, so no shady stuff going on. Then Tesla also added the option to buy the extra 20kWh for which they didn't pay for. That's all and it was quickly discontinued because that wasn't really their intent, they were just trying to enter the market and sell the already made 60kWh models faster to expand the production capacity and R&D more.
When it comes to music subscription services, I think the argument of paying entertainers for their work is very weak, simply because artists get paid parts of a penny for every song streamed. They don't get paid off of their music like before and have had to change their business models so that being an musician/entertainer can earn them a livable wage. Now I do think that music streaming services is worthwhile for me as a consumer because I get exposed to and access to much more variety of music than I would have if I was only able to buy physical media, but I think the nuance that should be looked at is that there is a level of exploitation that occurs with these middle man, subscription services.
Same as property taxes. I bought my place with money that I worked for that income taxes were taken from, and I have to pay the government an ungodly sum of (taxed) money every year just so I can keep it. Also, I've been an electronic tech my whole life, right to repair is a must.
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A monthly ink fee sounds dystopian as fuck
We live in a boring dystopia.
There could've been clones and extreme dna mods but no we have.
"uwu you didn't pay youw ink biww teehee now you can't use youw pwintew"
@@notfundy240 You can blame the standard of medical research ethics and the FDA ban on ethnically challenging research such as gene editing, cloning, and genetic manipulation.
@@MondoChow777If they continued what they were doing in the 60s, maybe we could've had human clones by now. But hey, that's kinda stupid and brings more problems; I'm glad they realised that.
@@notfundy240 You're upset we don't have stuff that screws with DNA? I mean, there's lots of other ways to screw yourself up right now. Worked out so well for AstraZenica right?
We Will come back to monk, medieval scripture and paper press so Quick. Why i have to Buy for something free Everywhere. It's not like domestic printer print faster than my hand with a pen.
Not only should a right to repair law be passed but also a rights of ownership one IF YOU BOUGHT SOMETHING IT'S YOURS period
Tell that to the service industry. I think it makes sense in some products that require constant upkeep like software, cloud services etc. Otherwise you'll be stuck with a software that's outdated and they won't provide constant services to repair bugs and issues.
But the contract should be written in such a way that people can opt out if they want.
Only thing that comes into play is liability (two parts). Liability where people try to modify their electronics that is still under warranty, break it trying to modify it (possibly due to ESD or busting a capacitor, etc), then try to pass it off as natural failure. Outside of warranty, no issues, but I can see the reason for companies to be hesitant for "home tinkerers".
The second liability comes with safety (particularly with new self driving cars). Installing parts incorrectly or cheap parts may cause the car to respond erratically, and then becomes difficult to determine said modification in a car wreck (particularly in electric cars if the battery shorts and then ignites the car).
But many other cases (like printers/laptops/etc), it's just a money grab.
You're absolutely right
I'm like okay give me license but be much cheaper than the real ownership version. For example I could finish a game I don't plan to replay a lot so I could 'risk"it getting taken away. But a lovable game I want to keep forever
@@alihorda the subscriptions aren't cheaper. They're much much more. Over time it adds up to far more than if just bought a game cartridge that the buyer owns. Everything is turning into subscription even our printers and coffee makers. That is turning everything into an expensive nightmare
If buying isn’t owning, then piracy isn’t theft.
Good luck pirating a tesla car
@@kosmas173it’s not as hard as you think
You wouldn't download a car..
Well of course not a car but definitely digital things
@@kosmas173you wouldn’t be pirating the car, but the software and program. Any how, it’s getting out of hand. I can’t even use my printers scanner to upload images when the printer runs out of ink. They hold its functionality hostage till it’s replaced.
One of the dumbest things I've heard is companies like BMW charge you a monthly subscription fee to use the heated seat feature in your car. You already BOUGHT the car, but you can't use the heated seats without paying extra. YET, regardless if you opt in or out of this ridiculous add-on it's installed in the car. That sounds like the definition of a SCAM
pretty sure it can be hacked
@@damyandimitrov611Probably not without voiding warranty
Ive heard of this didnt know it was true ill look it up that is wrong
BMW and Mercedes both have inbuilt tracking systems in the engine management system . If you renagage on your lease payments, they will repossess the vehicle . However, if your car is paid for and is subsequently stolen , then you're on your own Jack ! They won't assist you in locating your car , because they fully expect you will buy a new replacement .
Tio , buy the lowest mileage pre 2002 Mercedes diesel you can find and have it regularly serviced, and it will last you a lifetime .
@@josuastangl7140 oh yes, for sure! But warranty is until some point. I think it was 5 years or 10 at max. After that you can do whatever you want with the car. In Europe there are many people who buy second hand cars and most of them are without warranty, and that is the case I am talking about.
Ahoy there! If paying for something in full does not grant ownership, then piracy is not theft.
If I pay to go bowling, that doesn't mean I own the bowling alley. But stealing the pins to play at home definitely is illegal.
@@aj_mcnamara Taking the pins means the bowling alley has fewer pins.
Taking a picture of the pins and using it to manufacturer your own pins is equivalent to "piracy"
If someone made a 1:1 copy of the bowling alley and let you play there for free, the first alley is the "victim" of "piracy" in the same way that streaming platforms or tech companies are
@puddlejumper3259 But that's not what piracy is doing. Tons of products/software people buy can be set up with open source liscenses. That's building the pins.
Most piracy is more like sneaking into a movie theater or concert. The information is what is being "sold".
@@aj_mcnamara If the gap between my statement and your poor interpretation of it were any narrower we wouldn't be able to fit my pirated media collection through it.
Right to repair. I remember when I was a kid repair shops were everywhere….
Yeah apple is a big reason they aren't anymore
@@Do93y Which is why I don't support apple
Ever seen the movie Robots?
As a Mexican I thought repair shops didn’t exist in usa because of how consumerist Americans were
Yep. Good ol days of pride in craftsmanship, integrity, honesty and made in America are all long gone. Its only getting worse. "You will own nothing and be happy."
This is why I always buy physical media if it is an option. I don’t mind waiting a few days if it means I own the stuff I buy.
Same.
The government wants to tax you on your physical media tooo.
Eh, that's becoming an issue as well. I forget which racing game it is but the studio that made it shut down the server for the game and now no one can play it. Even those with physical discs. Can't play offline or the single player campaign. Players were told they just need to get used to not owning the games that they buy.
Secondhand DVD shops 😻
@@Caitlynn552 The Crew. That's because the game was pretty much online only.
This is why physical media is better than digital media
This is why privacy is so huge right now. If buying isn’t owning, then stealing isn’t illegal.
Then what about the independent artists making the games and books (including comics and manga) you buy? They gotta eat somehow
This is such a stupid argument made by people who don't have a single original thought in their brain. Try and think for yourself before you regurgitate bullshit.
@@ms.pirate it's always great to support small artists! However, I think there's a big difference in pirating Taylor Swift's music and pirating your local indie band's. One is a literal billionaire whose livelihood will never be affected by anything you do, and one does rely on every bit of income they get.
@@ms.pirate Most indie creators believe in preserving their medium, we fight hard so that our creations can be preserved over time without having to depend on a service (as far as possible)?
@@borealwoodhow do you even pirate music it's free
The fact that digital movies and albums can just straight up be removed is the reason i buy everything i like on DVD or BluRay. Buy it and keep it
Yep. I do the same 😊❤
Until they make newer TV's to where there's no way to connect a DVD player or blueray player. I hate that games are mostly not physical copies anymore. Soon everything will be non physical copies so we can't own anything.
@@paulagoeringer9466 kinda unrelated to owning stuff but they also got rid of adobe flash drive, so I can no longer play my favourite childhood online games :(
I remember when record labels started putting drm control on CDs, so you couldn't rip them and, since it was Windows/Apple based, I couldn't even listen to them because I had a Linux computer. Awful stuff
@paulagoeringer9466 Unless the players themselves stop being produced *and* the industry standard changes from HDMI to something else afterwards, that's extremely unlikely. Game consoles, streaming devices, and plenty of other TV peripherals all use HDMI, and even if both of those criteria do occur, there will no doubt be HDMI -> whatever the new format is converters like how there are AV -> HDMI converters now.
Piracy is legit becoming the only way to archive old games for example. Because complanies can just discontinue them and everyone playing loses access unless they have a pirated copy. Messed up times we live in.
An digital book store company had shut down along time ago (I don't remember the year, somewhere between 2016 - 2018), and to pour salt on the wounds, they took away everyone's libraries. I'm getting things physically
Right to repair isn't just electronics. It goes to all consumer equipment and products.
It applies to tractors. John Deere is horrible about it.
The problem is caused by government thanks to patents. There is a good video on this called "You hate these companies for the same reason"
The EU already passed the right to repair law.
I believe a couple states in the US have too. It’s just a matter of time before the rest of the world does too, I hope.
Why does Europe have more human/ personal rights and freedoms than, "The Land of The Free,"
@@soup331emd5 because the land of the free is a lie.
We need this in America!! ❤
@@soup331emd5 because it's actually "The Land of The Free Corporations"
I've always preferred buying physical media since it meant it couldn't be retroactively taken from me. A lot of people around me growing up thought I was silly, and that everything being digital was far more convenient.
Until recently, when companies stopped hosting some of the media they bought.
I bought a digital copy of E.T. and months later a particular scene has been changed on my copy without my consent or forewarning.
The ink fee radicalized me, not gonna lie.
Every company that sells any digital asset should be required by law to let you download it so you can keep it if ever they go out of business.
That’s an awful idea
That won't happen because that would make piracy even easier.
@@holyromanemperor420 yeah jt would literally make piracy the only affordable way to access media
@@kelpermoon23not really. If i need to pay money for a product. Companies just taking it away with no refund sounds like a scam.
@@Nigjaslayer9000 if I’m a company and I go outta business, how tf am I going to maintain the infrastructure for you to download it
"You'll own nothing and be happy"
“Und live in ze pods, und eat ze bugs.”
That was said by some random local politician, not something with real power
@@tomlxyzlol no that is what the dems said.
@@f.a.a.f.o....genx1977 No, it wasn't. It was a statement from an economist at the World Economics Forum commenting on subscription platforms.
@@tomlxyz i believe it was klaus schwab the head of the world economic forum
Ownership is as real as the money, that's been paid.
Preach, if I don't own what I purchased, and I don't want it. Final answer
Should be illegal, all those sites list on the "click" button that its "Rent" or "Buy" not "Temporary or Long Lease" its theft imo.
It’s not, your paying for a license
@@kelpermoon23 "buying" implies it's a lifetime license. Of your life (or the platform providing the service, whatever ceases to exist first), not the life of the contracct between a platform and a publisher.
@@kelpermoon23 hence me saying its a scam or at very least a dark pattern designed to mislead the buyer.
@@QwoaX buying does not imply anything
@@kelpermoon23 "Buying does not imply anything" may be the wildest (and dumbest) statement I've ever heard.
"You will own nothing and you will be happy" im so glad that never caught on and so terrified rhat theyre still pushing it
Of course they are. They're just being quiet about it, like a bunch of the shit that slips through. They're so full of themselves that I struggle to think of ways they would even change their minds.
The fact it's still a thing shows it did catch on...
So glad to see PBS talking about this issue. This has gotten so bad it’s unbelievable when you dig into it.
It's just part and parcel of life when you have to support 'the current thing'.
If you told someone 100 years ago, they dont own the stuff they worked hard to buy, and they'd probably string you up by your thumbs
People should start suing these companies when they "revoke" products that are bought! If a company is gonna take my movies, shows, music or games away after I've already paid for them, I see no reason why I shouldn't just pirate my own stuff instead.
That's the paradox, giving you the ability to download it outside of their platform makes it MUCH MUCH easier to pirate it.
@@holyromanemperor420oh no. A multi billion dollar company loses a bit of money here and there so they're gonna screw over the millions of paying customers to make up for it.
@@holyromanemperor420 And yet fewer people would feel the need to pirate things....
@@hanzzel6086
People who pirate things pirate things not because they theoretically wouldn't be able to see movies they supposedly "bought" if the host goes bankrupt, but because they don't want to spend money on it/don't have money.
Also, you still haven't addressed my argument. What do you even mean by "owning" movies and series? And would you have the money to BUY each one of those movies and series you watch?
@@holyromanemperor420 A big part of most current (game) piracy is simply to have an *actual permanent copy* of the thing. And you would own *a copy* of it. You would be able to produce as many copies for your own *personal use* as you like, but would not be allowed to distribute it.
I personally believe in the right to repair any item you purchase and also the right to modify any item you purchase to make it better and work more efficiently maintenance if necessary
It's why I refuse to buy any iPhones, Mac, Tesla
Agreed, if anything I understand modifications voiding a warranty, but not being allowed to at all is ridiculous
@@pyrobaka5227modifications aren’t supposed to void warranty in the us but the law doesn’t apply to any mega corporations. They can only void the warranty if they can prove that you damaged the product by modifying it. Here’s an example. Let’s say you upgraded the hard drive and six months later then screen stops working. That would still be covered under warranty but since the consumer protection laws are not enforced in the us the warranty would be void. You might be able to get around these bs policies by putting the original hard drive back in, if there is no warranty sticker but otherwise you could maybe go to small claims, I’m not sure how that works.
@@WorldCitizenWOr John Deere 😢
This is why I keep copies of my music despite having a subscription. I bought a song but the record company redid the licensing and the song vanished from my library. Luckily I kept a physical file of it on my computer but still. I would highly recommend keeping mp3 files of your favorite music. Because you never know if a song you like will vanish from your library.
Important issue and great explanation. Kudos PBS
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: if purchase isn’t ownership, piracy isn’t theft
If you purchase a license agreement, you never owned the software to begin with. You are illegally obtaining said software if you don't have a license to access it, which is, at the bare minimum, theft of a potential sale causing direct monetary damage to the company. There is plenty of legal precedence for being sued for this.
If a company calls it buying/ purchasing, and refers to "your content", but hides the legalese on page 27 of their EULA, they're not being upfront about what they're providing you. You're being mislead that you're buying or purchasing, like having rights to property that you own. But they can take away said rights, and alter the deal that you can't say no to in any way, or negotiate in any form? Scummy moves that screw the consumer, that companies get away with.
@@SleepyFen ok corpo butliker. own nothing and be happy
@@kassmalz2069 imagine insulting someone for explaining how the world works.
Next you're going to tell me I'm a landlord's "butliker" because I explained to you how rent and mortgages work.
Clearly this subject is beyond your comprehension. I suggest learning how to read and write basic English before you try to wrap your feeble and insufficient mind around basic transactions, contracts and license agreements.
@@SleepyFen did i hit a nerve, corpo serf?
My husband and I work very hard to avoid subscription-based anything.
Better said than done.
I have no subscription-based services at all and i say the internet has so much freedom there (i live in Russia)
@@NoName-ze8kz that's super nice!
@@Judithica Well, there is other side of medal. I cannot legally buy stuff on Steam, all payments are restricted since 24th february 2022. It especially hurts when you need to buy some in-game content and not an actual game. So you have to look for foreign services in Kazakhstan or somewhere else and overpay 20-50% to buy something you need...
@@NoName-ze8kz that really sucks. Pirating of possible is the main route for most of us these days.
Remember this when it comes to books as well.
I do like having books on my phone or kindle but important books are always best in print
That is why I will continue to buy physical media
Including movies, video games, etc
I really felt the printer one. I foolishly agreed to only use HP:s Ink in my current printer for its lifetime, a decision that will likely cost me more than the price of the printer.
Yeah, HP got a lot of us with their low entry price and high ink prices. Glad the internet has fully documented how shit of a company they are and at least some other people can avoid them now.
Might be time to run the numbers and cut your losses. I heard Brother is a company that hasn't been doing that and is easy to deal with. Also Epson. My current HP is one of the last good ones, when it dies, I'm never owning another HP.
You can buy hacked printers. Get them, they will run forever and save you thousands of bucks.
I have an old HP that’s okay, before they enforced ink drm. I will never buy another HP printer due to this, and I try to avoid HP in other cases as well for the same reason.
in some cases, it is cheaper to buy a new printer when yours runs out of ink.
Let's go back to DVD or Physical media.
Anything which increases ypur direct control and ownership is good. Guarantee is just a dependace and thats not good position to be in
Totally agree. The entire economy is like this now. I'm slowly regressing back to tech that worked great in the first place. Cory Doctorow's work definitely convinced me.
You should’ve stayed with that to begin with
@@jollama ...we all "should" have. What's your point? Did you?
@@jollama ☝🏼 VERY intelligent human discovers hindsight.
This is a good reason to keep physical backups like DVDs.
About time they start stopping corporations from price gouging and greed.
Thank you for spreading awareness about right to repair.
If buying isn't owning then piracy isn't stealing
Factually wrong
Tell this to ubisoft.
@kelpermoon23 let it go
@@undoctrinati0n why?
@@undoctrinati0n ?
Reminds me of when I worked at a theater with an IMAX... the Imax company is/was able to log remotely into the machine and take it over for repairs, updates etc..for however long they wanted, whenever they wanted.
Huge pain in the butt waiting for them to finish doing whatever to it when our theater was busy and I needed to start a show soon.
Thankfully, it finished, and the movie was on time.
But, I'm a huge fan of owning cds/dvds etc.
That's why I do not pay cable to view a movie. I pay only once for the dvd and see it many times
This is why I pirate everything now.
If I don't own what I buy, then I am not stealing. As the product was never for me to own when I buy it.
You literally own the license, are you an idiot?
Just because you can't get something in the manner that you choose does not entitle you to it. In other words, two wrongs don't make a right.
@@siral2000Paying legal tender in exchange for the purchase of a product does in fact entitle me to it?? What are you even on
@@krunchyapples I was talking about piracy as stated in the original comment. What are you on that made you ignore the context?
@siral2000 if I buy something to play or watch, I should be able to play or watch it wherever I want, and not need a internet connection.
If thst purchased product can get stolen from me by the company I bought it from. Why should I even buy it or buy anything else from them in the future? At that point, pirating is better.
Negative times a negative equals a positive afterall.
If corporations could just funnel your paychecks directly into their pockets they would.
Consumer choice is the key. Allow small companies to rise easily and compete with those that have scummy practices.
If owning isn't owning, then expropriation of corporations isn't theft.
See, the difference here is that, if you actually read the license agreement, you'd know that you never owned the game to begin with.
Even games on CDs and cartridges are not yours. You merely own the medium, but the software itself is proprietary and comes with an EULA where you agree that you only have a license to use the data. If you OWNED the data, you'd be allowed to do everything you ever wanted with it and the company couldn't do anything to stop you. But since you only have a license to use it under specific conditions, the company can sue you for tampering with the data, copying it or reselling it unless doing so is protected by law - as is the case in the EU, where you're allowed to make back-ups of digital media for personal use.
If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing!
SAIL THE HIGH SEAS MY FRIENDS! IT'S NOT WORTH THEIR TIME TO STOP US!
@@SleepyFen In my country (Germany/EU), the EULA is void because you are forced to agree to it after you bought it, so after the contract has been concluded. We have laws regulating licenses. This is the case even for free software when the EULA isn't signed before the download. Also, in Germany specifically, "surprising ToS" or "ToS that put the consumer at an unfair disadvantage" are prohibited. Your license being revoked because of a contract between two parties ending ticks both those boxes. Digital purchases / licenses can't just be revoked one-sided, not without a proper refund at least.
If buying isn't owning, then piracy isn't theft.
Just wait until more people hear about software subscriptions like Microsoft Office and Adobe Acrobat (the OG of draconian software sales).
A few game distributors are beginning to do it too.
It's not gonna stop while people keep feeding the beast.
The first time I saw a commercial in a movie theater (mid 1990s?), I was livid. My GF asked why I was so angry over a 15 second commercial, and I said it would only stop if people stopped coming to theaters, which they won't.
These days there's ten minutes of commercials. The trailers are cool, but the ads prove they own us, because we're never gonna do squat about it.
Thats why it matters where you spend your money.
Because if you support those systems with your money, those systems will spread to other companies.
The videogame industry showed us how fast that can happen.
This is a strictly Us problem btw. In the EU it is, mostly, pretty clear: if you bought it and aren’t disruptive with your usage of the object/software ie: cheating in a online videogame, manufacturing pirated copies etc. your ownership cannot be revoked
No. The central bank in Europe issues the same debt note currencies that are issued in America. Anyone using a debt note currency does not own what they think they own when they pay for it with their debt note currency
@@TrevorHamberger im gonna ignore you cause you entirely missed the fing point and idk if you just have roomtemp iq or are willfully ignorant. either way: im not gonna engage with that
@@TrevorHambergerOh, you wrote "note" and used a term tangentially related to the original idea. You must be right.
@@deadfisher0000 mock me all you want I don't give a s***. You're the one living in slavery because you don't understand the mechanics of money
@@deadfisher0000 you being ignorant of the mechanics of money does not bother me in the slightest bit. You're the one who's poor and doesn't know why. You don't even know you're going to get poorer
"You will own nothing and be happy about it" schwab.
If someone owns your environment and resources, they own you
It's straight back to bonded servitude under our new corporate overlords.
It's ironic, isn't it. America was founded on people who hated the monarchy and yet it fostered corporate oligarchy in its place.
I would also like to add even though dvds are not very common. I still purchase dvds every time I go to the goodwills. Or the family values, or any sort of thrift store operated system.
Thanks for shedding awareness to this. It’s definitely a problem. I have an Epson printer and anytime it runs out of ink, they hold my scanner function I use to upload hand drawn images and photos hostage till it’s replaced. It often makes me wanna throw it out the window or disassemble it 😂
Right to Repair is just an add-on to ' Rent-Seeking ' under ' Anti-Trust '. Rent-Seeking has become the number one most violated law by businesses, unless the business is Disney where they go with violated contract law like its candy.
Pray tell, what is “Rent-Seeking”?
@@OtatsukeIt's basically trying to charge you more for something you already own, like additional features. For example, if you buy a brand new BMW, you own the car, but if you spec heated seats, in the past, you would pay for the option once, and it would be fitted for you. Now, it's already fitted in the car regardless, but you have to pay a subscription to use them, despite owning the car. A bit like renting a property back to you, that you already own, hence "rent seeking". It's just a sneaky way of squeezing more cash out of you for the same thing.
@@soundmattersuk Oh, so kinda like Nintendo did with any Online Only Switch game…🤔
@@Otatsuke idk, I'd have to ask my nephew, he has a switch, lol
Record and back up everything you can.
Hey, I know you! You do voiceover content! You're voice is very nice, keep up the good work ❤❤❤
Why I buy hard cover books, DVDs, CDs, etc. Also why I am keeping all my old electronics.
I can't believe this is true... holy wowzaa
I bought games on Stadia. When they shut down, all my purchases were refunded.
Lucky, i wouldnt test it in the future.
This is funny considering everyone saw this coming from miles away.
Agree it all needs to change. I will not ever buy a HP printer. Brought a Raven Scanner and now the company no longer exist…the scanner will not work without an online account.
I'm sure there's a work around. A way to spoof the scanner into working.
@@BigBossTussBall I thought that but have no idea how to get pass the log on screen.
@@BigBossTussBallthing is you shouldnt have to , thats what right to repair is for
Nothing but facts, well done PBS!
This is why physical media (movies, games, music) is having a small resurgence. A digital game or movie can be removed, but not a physical copy of it
Right to repair is something we can all agree on
Licensing works for B2B because both sides can negotiate and prorated per employee. Licensing is anticonsumor.
My favorite hobby is model Railroading. You're encouraged to work on your own stuff. I wish it was that way with everything
Right to Repair! ❤
If that law never makes it and doesn't get passed we know who stopped it
This could go in three directions and I certainly hope you mean the corporations are who stopped it because corporations buy out politicians regardless of party
You can actually look up how your representatives have been voting.
It's made it pretty clear what companies own who.
@rainbowdiamond9944 Dude, just look up the prisoner's dilemma
What law, specifically?
If i dont own it, then its not piracy 🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️😈😈😈
unfunny
It literally is
Yar har fiddle dee dee
@@kelpermoon23cry more boot licker 😂
Buy physical media people. Get it with the digital copy. And if the internet is down you can still watch your movie, play your music etc.
Yes. I have the ability to defend said things.
I own all my stuff. If a company doesn't give me control over something I have, there are two options:
Either I manually take control by force or it gets returned to the store.
I buy the shows and movies I really like on blu ray and if they're streaming I buy the bootlegs or "for your consideration" copies from eBay. Furniture is fully bought or thrifted. Car is paid off. I have some cds and vinyl but am still working on a full music collection.
You still don't own your home
@@kevinwalker6840i doubt you've even met this random youtube commenter, how do you know whether they've paid for their home or not? What's that got to do with anything anyway?
Would you prefer an economy where you were weren't allowed to borrow money to buy a house?
@@SineN0mine3 It's not about if you had to borrow money or not. Even if you have all your property paid off you still have to give the government rent or they will take what you supposedly own.
Your still just paying for a license of those
@@kevinwalker6840 The government can take his home, nature can take his home an earthquake could swallow it whole, it can get nuked to dust.
We truly don't 'own' anything. Just worried about the rights to it under law, and gov. Makes those laws 🤷♂️
My printer telling me no hits home
The objectively correct answer is that buying something is a contract, and the terms of the contract must be listed, otherwise the contract is void. TLDR companies must explicitly state the terms otherwise you can demand a refund
First time I've randomly scrolled and found a reasonable stance on an important issue that isn't highlighted enough
Bout to put my eyepatch back on and start pirating again...
This transition started around the year 2000, when vehicle manufacturers made it so you can't fix your own car.
if buying isn't owning piracy isn't stealing
I buy physical copies of games although i am concerned about others with their electric cars
That’s still a license
@@kelpermoon23a dvd can't be taken from you. A digital copy can be taken.
@@Nigjaslayer9000 Sadly, the dvd's for games these days usually act like a game key and just trigger the download associated with it. And if the publisher decides to shut it down, you SOL.
@@RickDangerousNL call me old fashioned but the dvds that i use don't need a download. It does not use internet. Maybe because most games i play are single players
@@Nigjaslayer9000 Good, glad you can still find those, but they are getting rarer. Some games don't even have a physical release. I hate that though. I'm am old school myself :D
I say there should be a law that replaces every "buy" option on steam/epicgames/online shops/etc. With a "rent license".
Remember kids: "pirating isn't stealing if buying isn't owning"
Yes I do. Physical media and physical non subscription based products only
When i was a kid, printers had two cartridges and you had to flip thru a book of CDs to find the one you want.
Say it with me :"if buying isnt owning, then pirating isnt stealing"
Ive been on this waggon for 20 years
You own whatever you can defend.
I've been saying this since 2004 when a software I bought wouldn't install 2 years after I bought it because it required "remote activation" and the company just decided they "don't support that product " anymore.
The tyranny of "software"
You will own nothing and be happy 💀💀💀
And it's only making those rich people richer, the workers and all get nothing
@@stankssmile5865 You just learned what a capitalist is.
Capitalist: the resources are owned by a few people.
Communist: the resources are owned by the state, no one owns.
Socialist: people can own, although the important resources are only owned by the state. Example: people cannot own oil mining rig.
@@friedec3622
No, it's not.
Capitalism is when the resources are owned by anyone with even a single penny.
@@stankssmile5865
No, it's not.
Who is expecting to have the copyright to a movie for $10?
This has actually greatly benefited average consumers, that's why it's so successful.
@@holyromanemperor420 by the looks of it late capitalism is the worst
Right to repair. Right to repair. Right to repair.
Very good point
one day we're gonna get real-life holodecks and hard light constructs purely so that previously physical-only things like appliances can be exclusively sold via cancellable license.
Sounds mad dystopian not gonna lie. The possibilities however are mind blowing
“…like Tesla, control via software how much charge the battery can hold depending on how much you pay”.
It is true that Tesla has (in the past) released more capacity over a software update (essentially freeing up some of the safety buffer), but these updates are free. They HAVE offered to release more power to the motors (increasing 0-60 times) for a fee (Power boost), but they have not charged any fees (that I am aware of) for increasing the capacity of a battery in their vehicles after sale.
I am curious to know where you got this information since I find your channel to be very well informed in all other respects.
Ok, I see now (the hint was the Model S graphic you used in the video). For a short time in 2013, Tesla sold a “40KW” Model S that actually had a larger (60KW) battery in it. So the car was built with a 60KW battery, but the customer was charger for only the 40KW that they had access to. This made for a lower price point for the entry level vehicle, with Tesla deciding to eat the cost of the extra 20KW instead of engineering a smaller pack. However, they gave owners the opportunity to unlock that extra capacity for a free.
Something similar was done with the model 3 in Canada a few years ago. Tesla technically had an “off menu” lower range variant (which you had to phone them directly to order). They did this in order make their vehicles eligible for the tax rebate (there was a minimum sticker price threshold). However, Tesla made it clear that there would never be a software unlock of the hidden battery capacity (because they never actually wanted to sell any of those software limited vehicles, they just wanted to get through an EV rebate loophole.
Giving you something you already paid isn't giving you something for free.
People that bought the 40kW version did not pay for the other 20kW. The 40kW and 60kW versions were identical (except for price). 60kW purchasers got 60kW and paid for it. 40kW purchasers got access to 40kW (that were paid for) and the option of accessing the other 20kW if the wanted to pay for it.
There was a downside to the 40kW purchasers and that was that their efficiency would have been better if Tesla had removed the “dead weight” of those batteries.
Exactly, what they said is not possible. It would be counterproductive financially speaking to do what they claimed, they would be bleeding money.
@@I.C.Weiner
Except, it wasn't paid. Did you even read it? You paid for the capacity you chose. In other words, they charged you the value of a 40kWh battery for a 60kWh battery car with 40kWh software restricted capacity. So you didn't really lose anything. They did this because it was hard to reengineer the battery pack(Tesla batteries are made up of numerous small cells and are each equipped with special battery control systems for faster charging, hence the difficulty in engineering a smaller pack) for 40kWh variants.
Corporate GREED must be stopped!!! People aren't going to take it anymore !! 😡 we are pissed off at these greedy, selfish corporate giants. Do everything we can to stop the corporate corruption !!!!
Banning companies from doing limiting people's choice is counterproductive.
It's far more productive to get rid of the laws, such as patent and copyright law, that privilege the companies and get them the undue positions they hold in the first place.
It’s phrases like “do you own what you buy?” that make me think the unibomber was right.
This is why I love piracy and don't have a subscription to anything.
Why do you love piracy?
Ok, but that's just a dumb excuse. I can understand people getting angry over hardwares getting blocked even though you paid for it fully but digital? Yeah no. Subscription is still very cost effective. You obviously aren't buying the copyright to the movie/series when you "buy" them. If it's a subscription, it's even more messed up. You aren't getting screwed over, you are paying the amount of money that would typically allow you to watch a single movie for one time to have access to tens of thousands of movies and shows for a month.
@@holyromanemperor420 people feeling morally okay with stealing even though they agreed to the terms is wild
Information should be free.
@@Nigjaslayer9000
Why? Did you fund them?
you don't 'own' any software you buy either never did, only an license to use the software
The right to repair for software is called 'open source'
It used to not be taken away though. Now I try to only use open source when possible. I’m willing to pay, but not if I believe it will be taken away (not updated to support new os releases is expected though)
They outlined a great use case for NFTs. They want you to think NFTs are pixel jpegs, but it's actually just digital ownership
There's a reason I still buy vinyl records! 😁 Once I buy it, it belongs to me! It can never be altered, remixed, revoked, or discontinued. Even if the record gets banned or the company goes out of business, I can still enjoy what I've already purchased 😍
With streaming, I'm at the mercy of whatever company I'm subscribed to 🙏 They might go out of business or lose their rights to stream certain albums
Like they say:
If buying isn't owning then pirating isn't stealing
I think a lot of people overlook the nuances of the subscription-based model. For some apps the subscription fee seems to be in payment of a service (services to keep a cloud storage running or keep software functioning after OS updates, like in the case of music apps and browser extensions, or services to add new features and content, like in the case of phone apps or streaming services or content creators). In cases where an app or website needs active upkeep, I think it's harmful that people expect it to be free. We wouldn't give our labor away free, so why do we expect others (mostly programmers and entertainers) to do the same? It has nothing to do with the right to repair or planned obsolescence.
Whatever tesla and other hardware companies are doing with their batteries tho, that should rightly be treated like a crime.
I think the expectation for some of these would be paid versioning, like Adobe CS used to be or Cinema 4D. If there’s a lot of API calls involved, sure, maybe, but recently a camera sop called Folkic Pro went subscription based with one of the options being WEEKLY lol
That's the excuse that's basically removed the option of permanent licenses from the market.
Maybe if these markets weren't complete monopolies their competitors would offer better alternatives.
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What do you mean they are monopolies?
Really? Amazon, Disney+, and Netflix are all big players and there are also many local, smaller companies.
About that Tesla thing, there is more nuance to it.
1) This happened some years ago and they have discontinued it.
2) There was a 60kWh model of a car. Then they also added a CHEAPER 40kWh model. But this 40kWh model had a battery pack of 60kWh, because Tesla battery packs are very complicated and it would have taken too much money to reengineer the 60kWh models into actual 40kWh models). The 40kWh model was cheaper than the 60kWh model. In other words, the consumers were getting a 60kWh restricted battery model for the price of a 40kWh battery model. So the consumers didn't actually "own" the extra 20kWh, so no shady stuff going on. Then Tesla also added the option to buy the extra 20kWh for which they didn't pay for.
That's all and it was quickly discontinued because that wasn't really their intent, they were just trying to enter the market and sell the already made 60kWh models faster to expand the production capacity and R&D more.
When it comes to music subscription services, I think the argument of paying entertainers for their work is very weak, simply because artists get paid parts of a penny for every song streamed. They don't get paid off of their music like before and have had to change their business models so that being an musician/entertainer can earn them a livable wage.
Now I do think that music streaming services is worthwhile for me as a consumer because I get exposed to and access to much more variety of music than I would have if I was only able to buy physical media, but I think the nuance that should be looked at is that there is a level of exploitation that occurs with these middle man, subscription services.
Same as property taxes. I bought my place with money that I worked for that income taxes were taken from, and I have to pay the government an ungodly sum of (taxed) money every year just so I can keep it. Also, I've been an electronic tech my whole life, right to repair is a must.
If buying isn't owning, pirating isn't stealing.