I've watched this in person. Old guy hitting at the cages.....how quick he is rotating to the ball. He wasn't hitting homers, but connecting to the ball looked effortless. He was probably 60+, in the 80-90 MPG cage.
I coach youngsters and I was taught to swing without stoping the momentum and this video has helped me explain to parents that learning proper technique early does wonders for them in the long run
Yep. The front leg plants not to decelerate anything. Rather it accelerates the front hip backward, increasing acceleration of the rear hip forward. The front leg doesn’t full straighten (quad flex) until the moment of impact, then releases. Judge, Bonds, Griffey, Ruth… all of them.
I don’t know about Ruth. Hank Aaron had a push swing like the one this guy criticizes. Almost all of the oldies had pushy or push swings. The first guys to really start looking like HLP showed up in the 70-80s. By the 90s it was clear which way the wind was blowing. All the great hitters from 1990 onward swung like this.
Great videos. I get a lot of my techniques from you. I like to use a tee and place the ball very deep on the outside corner. If you don’t turn the barrel behind you, you will never be able to hit the ball. I like the hitting out of a “telephone booth”. Is this the correct idea?? Thanks for all your lessons!
Coaches teaching young batters fall in love with using the front foot to stop because it keeps batters in position behind the ball, so that when they push their swing, it’s more likely to find the ball. If the front foot and front leg aren’t strong, the kids’ goofy swings never make it to the ball. Use HLP with confidence that you don’t need to use the front foot and/or leg to brace. It works from the back hip.
I thought so too, at first. However once you get the tilt, and the snap and can work on it, the swing won’t feel as awkward if your body is lined up. It it’s not, it will feel over torqued and not as comfortable. Keep at it, it will come together!
I just found this channel a few weeks ago and the 12U girls I coach have started grasping this concept last week and have been hitting missiles all over the field and cage. This works, mainly because of how shallow the barrel gets into the hittng zone. It allows them more room for error on their timing
I think the reason some of those guys that teach other hitting methods give so much resistance to what you teach is, they’ve got to much invested and can’t afford to reneg on things they’ve taught for year now. They can’t afford to say, “your right, I get it, I need to change my methods”. I’m a 48 year old coach, up until a couple years ago I didn’t teach coil and snap. I have a feeling there are a lot of guys like me, that after watching and trying your methods themselves realized, “damn, I’ve been teaching different than this, I’ve gotta change it up”. Some guys just can’t bring themselves to do that.
I love this comment.The ability to be able heard other people’s method of hitting is going to make you a great coach you’re being a student of the game.
It what golfers do ! He does this because the ball is on the ground about the golf club vertical or up and down. Hitting, the ball is moving and the bat is moving out from the body. Thanks Richard !
My 10 year old son's baseball coach this year (sons 3rd year of baseball and this coach is brand new to baseball and coaching) is telling him he is wrong to lift his front foot when swinging. He keeps telling him that his dad has taught him wrong and doesn't know what he is doing. Is the coach right and you should never lift/move your front foot when loading?
A handful of MLBers follow Teacherman and my understanding is that less are believers in the mechanics with the exception of Judge and Happ. Gradum and Antonelli seem to have a better handle on explaining the proper and more efficient baseball swing that I prefer to follow. They also have drills they share. Jeff Frye breaks it down in the simplest form if you watch his videos and focuses more on approach. Let's all agree there isn't 1 way only that works for hitting line drive baseballs. Thousands if not millions have hit a baseball and the mechanics are never the same even though they rhyme.
Ive watched multiple videos of that guy, more out of amazement that he ever made it to the big leagues and somehow still has a job in baseball. He is a clown!
Jeff Frye is straight a$$. It doesn’t get any simpler than these videos. Antonelli will give you a bunch of tangential, occasionally secant glimpses into the whisper of an echo of the rumor of HLP, but these videos are extremely simple and concise. I found that “feeling” that he talks about. It’s totally different than anything you’ve felt hitting a baseball. Once you feel the stretch in the back leg around the glute and the knee, then feel it drive your hips out and upward while snapping, you can’t forget it. These videos are enough to teach yourself for free if you are dedicated.
His method may work, and it may reduce the time required to hit the ball, but he’s misrepresenting the deceleration concept. (It’s not at all about “the bat swings around your body and eventually slows down.) At least describe the thing you’re comparing it to accurately.
Now it makes sense. Hitting is inherently reactionary. All this time I just assumed I suck at baseball. Turns out I'm ideologically opposed to hitting. 🤣👍🏼💯
Decelerated, across the body will not work, especially on higher velocity inner half of the plate. All good, and power hitter's weight is planted on the back leg, with weight on the inside, pinch the saddle press feeling off the back leg and foot. Just watch slow mo video of Griffey, Judge, Pujols, Edgar, hips leads, hands and upper body, torso lag, impact through and up the middle, with a high finish.
I had a terrible time with collapsing my backside growing up, mostly little league. Chopping down on the ball isn’t going to work either, perhaps in drills to overcompensate a muscle memory thats causing a negative outcome, but the move has got to be however you can get that barrel behind the baseball as quickly and accurately and for as long as possible. Those feels sure worked for Arod and he knows a thing or two about hitting. But I’ve also played with a lot of really talented baseball players and the worst ball players always seem to be the best coaches. That’s what makes a lot of these HOF who they are. They could play with a clear mind and not always obsess over their mechanics. They play free. I’m not saying Arod isn’t a great coach, he’s got some incredible insight, but generally speaking to say something is just flat out the wrong move, might be going a bit far. I can almost guarantee some of these “modern” moves and drills would have helped me immensely. Staying back would have been the biggest one for me, not going out and getting it but catching it deep with a quick launch. I would have been better if I could have stayed back and laid off the low breaking ball out of the zone.
What I used to say to support swinging up I would tell them that if someone were to drop a ball from a helicopter and you had to hit it you would definitely have more of a chance swinging south to north in a line to be on the same plane as the ball is coming. Than I would get my both hands and clap them north and south as I move them east to west and tell them the pitcher is on a mound and the ball is coming down so you need the bat to be in the exact opposite plane to have the best chance at hitting it. 😂
He’s explained the scissor move as what’s called the ‘out from’ action - when a hitter is regaining his balance out from a swing - not everyone does it, not everyone needs to. It’s a reaction to a swing, not a swing move itself no matter what you hear from hitting gurus selling their wares to emulate the scissors. It’s ridiculously silly to scissor for the sake of scissoring. Just use the body’s energy from the back side to transfer power into the barrel with a clean path. HLP teaches exactly that.
@@mattwalker138 appreciate the tone and helpful info! agreed on scissoring happening for some and not others, it is an athletic move, and don’t do it for the sake of doing it! Just want to see him show it off if he can while still doing it from and out of motion. Think it’s b very helpful to see a hlp version of the scissor vs not high level
@@mattwalker138 he def swings more like Soto/bonds/Griffey than trout, arenado, castellanos etc. nothing wrong with that btw! Just think it’d be cool and even good for him to try to learn that pattern b as well. Just how my mind works
I am not a believer , this guy has never played one innjng and wants to tell MLB coaches they have doing it wrong for 75 years. A blind hog will stumble upon a acorn every now and then.
@@tommyluke6407Everyone who has ever discovered a more efficient method for anything was overturning the entire history of mankind up to that point, and every single man who invented these things was called crazy, stupid, or fraudulent. All of these men were right. It was the world that was wrong. Why do you think he’s such a jerk? It’s because he knows he’s right.
I know this is hecka late. But what about decel of the upper body Richard. I’m an HLP guy, but often get a ton of hitters really over rotating on their upper body. Creating a launch pattern to oppo gap seems to keep that in check, but it looks like an upper body decel does happen??? Some of Aaron’s at bats seem to decel the shoulders, even if it’s not a goal in his pattern???
The upper body doesn’t drive the swing. The hands snap the barrel and the back leg drives the entire body through. It’s why it looks like the barrel is swinging them more than the other way around. The deceleration he is criticizing is a focus on the magical power of “the kinetic chain” to drive a swing, despite the fact that the human body cannot transfer energy to the bat except to, you guessed it, push the bat. You can flail the hands around like a ball on a string, but if you don’t induce action on the actual bat with the wrists, the barrel doesn’t turn or “whip” until the very end right before contact, by which time you’ve probably already rolled the hands over (most bad hitters do this, and almost all the old timers did this as well. They were just good athletes). The fact is that bats are still heavy, so the barrel is still going to lag behind the rest of the body sometimes, giving that “deceleration” look, but I promise you because I’ve felt it that all you feel is the back leg. You feel the foot digging into the ground, the glute stretching and exploding. You explode out from your body. It doesn’t even feel like you’re really rotating.
@@mike-0451 thx for responding. I really only meant a conscious limit on the end of the swing. I’m not a proponent of decel or the Kinetic chain concept to get the barrel to be propelled forward. I just meant limiting the back end of the swing to limit over rotation. I feel that players that allow themselves to over rotate do a disservice to the importance of the launch. Where a player teaches themselves to end does effect how they begin to some degree. The launch is more critical than the finish. It coaching both ends for younger players has seemed to help their launch pattern.
People enjoy your content for the amazing content you provide!! But no need to bash other hitting teachers on their own style. What works for you might not work for them and vice versa. Jeep the great information coming.🤙🏽
Couple concerns hoping your able to adress @teacherman. I like your concept but eye level in your exaggerated examples/drills is all over the place, can you explain or demonstrate that is only a product of the drills and not inherent of the swing . 2 I understand your in a powerful contact point through the whole swing plane but ideally you want to hit the ball with arms still extended correct? Ideally you have your bottom arm locked out through the swing with impact happening at the end of the uncoil. I know not everyone is rolling their hands over anymore and Im ok with that as that happens post contact anyway but that top arm are you still trying to get that extended and elbow locked out as well?
You do not want to hit the ball with arms extended at contact, just after impact is extension. Point of contact is strong top hand palm up punch through the ball, bottom hand palm down pull back of arm tricep feel through. Look at freeze frame of MLB hitters on contact, their top hand arm is flexed, bent at the elbow in a strong position, underhand punch position.
Would love to have the camera show your full body. Your instruction is so valuable to those of us that can't see you in person. Please ask the cameraman to frame your full body so we can fully experience your instruction that way you intend. Thanks 🙏
Out from your body and across your body looks so much the same. You turn your body so it confuses me. Do you have any videos showing you doing that in front of a plate? So it feels like hitting of the rear hip?
Look at the hips. If you’ve ever felt it yourself you see the difference like night and day. In two legs, spinal rotation is dominant. On one, the hips drives everything, going up and out toward the sky.
@Sam Van Snellenberg obviously every hitter launched of their rear leg. Where I have a dispute with the Teacherman is at the point of contact. Mays, Mussial, Ichiro, Hank, Clemente, Harper, all made contact with their rear leg in the air. Go look up Roberto Clemente homerun swing during the all-star game his rear leg was up in the air. By the way, that ball traveled over 440 ft. Did Stan Musial make contact with his rear leg on the ground, or was it up in the air? Again, one launches from the rear leg, but not every hitter rear leg, is on the ground at point of contact. It's funny Teacherman never pauses the video, and chooses video that boster his theories. Look up Stan Musial Teacherman I dare you.
you are correct in a sense.... guys/and girls load and launch from the back leg while falling or striding forward. I think the pitch count has alot to do with swings as well. Frank Thomas was a huge front lander, hit bombs too.
Of course he wouldn’t swing! He swings and finds out he’s been a wrong, that makes him a fraud. Sad when people break agreements, and are so bitter when they get checked on it…
I’ve used his step by step progression to get contact hitters driving the ball, and kids who didn’t make consistent contact (always late) making contact. It’s early in the season, but I’m encouraged by the results so far.
Jesus! By planting your front leg you create torque, you don’t actually have any points of deceleration. This guy teaches uppercut swings. When you tilt back that causes you to decelerate and stops weight transfer. So what he teaches counters what he preaches. Please everyone go watch Tony Gwynn hit, that’s what we need more of!
You should stop working about other "techniques " and worry more about yours which can't hit a low or high outside fastball in baseball. In softball, your "technique" is useless.
You can't say a feeling is wrong if it works. It's easy to not worry about where power comes from when working with big leaguers who know how to produce it from the ground up. To understand why this works for guys like Judge, you have to look at their swings before these new feels were introduced. Like Judge had such an aggressive forward move, he needed to focus more on staying back. And it's okay if he doesn't get a full weight shift into the ball because he's fucking Hercules and it's a short porch to right at home. I'd love to see teacherman break down Jose altuve's swing.
Jose Altuve, in earnest since 2022, has been doing exactly what Judge and all the other great hitters do. You see the barrel turn and blur out behind him, then it carries him through the zone. He has an HLP swing.
Trout and Othani back leg is coming off the ground … no way they are hitting off back leg ruclips.net/video/3L72Vn6SueA/видео.html ruclips.net/video/IpgHBzYrVL8/видео.html
At least someone brought up mechanics. They are still hitting from the back hip. Yes, their back feet come up, and then right back down, or they’ll fall over backwards. Bonds often did fall over backwards, to a point his back leg would land on the plate.
Bingo. Wait until you look at Cabrera, Altuve, Yordan, Griffey, etc. this dude’s one guy went 1 for 16 in the ALCS because he can’t get the bat out against good pitching.
They are rotation freaks of nature, though their foot lifts their weight is still back, hips explode in sync with arms/hands onto a stiff front side. You'll notice they come back down onto the back foot. Similar to guys that crush a golf ball, Sheffler, Thomas, they come off that back foot too. Good on you picking it up. Some great hitters hips lead the upper body, other like Trout here hips and hands are in sync.
@@CollegeRecruitsNW their weight isn’t back, it’s in the front hip until energy is expelled through the swing to contact. Then the weight shifts back again.
This is dumb! This is such a complicated conversation. There are a lot of things that he says that make sense and are correct…..BUT there are A LOT of things that he says that are for manipulation! No REAL hitting coach is going to teach a player to “stop” or create “pauses” in their swing.(See Charles Barkley’s golf swing) lol. What hitting coaches do is break down the swing into sections so that hitters can more easily understand the mechanics…..The props I give this guy is his “bat path” of the swing. I think he has something going there, however, some of his drills are a little extreme when teaching the bat path. The path of the bat needs to match the ball….it is as simple as that!! Anything else will give you deviation. The whole debate about the front foot being down on the swimg is non negotiable. ANYONE worth mentioning, who has EVER swung a bat, had their front foot down before they swung the bat. Personally I don’t care what you do with your front foot before the ball is released from the pitchers hand, but just know that before you swing…..ypur front foot has to be planted on the ground!…….If you don’t believe me then go out and try it.
The idea behind this training aid is to think about hitting through the baseball/softball. Hitters will be able to feel if they are rolling the bat over or hitting under the ball, receiving instant feedback based on their action so they can adjust accordingly. It is also designed for honing in your swing through slow motion repetitions without getting fatigued. It helps with staying on plane all the way through the hitting zone. The bat is extremely lite and very easy to control. It can be used with whiffle balls, foam balls and tennis balls for drill work and indoor use. It is specifically designed in making sure that you are staying on plane all the way through the hitting zone. It gives instant feedback with flight travel of the ball..
There's one very huge flaw in this concept for the AVERAGE hitter, and that is regarding timing. There's 2 ways to fire the swing and this one is great for power but for hitters without exceptional timing they will struggle mightily for contact.
This is why he preaches being ready at release, which is something to help with timing. Rather than focus on getting the foot down on time like other coaches teach, he focuses on getting ur coil and getting to ur slot at the release of the pitcher so that you can launch ur swing instantly when u decide to, hence the term “launch quickness”
@@evanmendoza6116 Nah it's not accurate, he doesn't focus on getting the foot down but you still have to get it down. He doesn't teach to KEEP the foot down. But all of that is irrelevant and doesn't get to my original point, you can be ready but that doesn't have anything to do with if you made the right or wrong decision on when to launch. If you go all at once there very slim margin of error which is what this hitting style provides
@@fishncoach8699If you go all at once you’ll almost never get caught. The two step means they need to commit to a bad swing to do anything; they have already made it so that they must stride or step forward to swing well, but once you get there it’s almost impossible to effectively make a decision, since you’ve already timed yourself to a pitch that could just fade away or drop. A two step launch means you have to cheat to pitches. You can’t react to anything in two steps. It has to be sudden. It has to be instant, just like the ball flying 96 mph at you.
@@fishncoach8699I don’t even know how you can misunderstand-not even misunderstand, you literally just couldn’t perform the most sequential logical calculus. This swing gives you the margin of error; the other takes it away. Somehow, you have got this a$$ backwards not through a simple misunderstanding of the method, but of elementary logic. If I only need to perform one move to swing and can do it instantly, it doesn’t matter if it’s a changeup or a fastball: if I am expecting a changeup but get a fastball, I know that I can be fast enough to adjust right there. You can let the ball travel just like you would a changeup. If it is a changeup, the same principle applies, only I don’t need to cheat to cheat because I know I have the quickness to let me watch the pitch and react. Pitchers are very good. Sometimes they will beat me, but they will always beat me if I am incapable of actually adjusting to speed change in real time.
@@mike-0451You must have read it wrong. I said two ways to fire. Not two steps. In the first way your hands and weight stay back in a launch position that is more stretched, ready to fire and go all at once at the ball. This results in more power and less contact rate. In way two, there is a slow leaking of the hands and weight shift ( power) that creates a timing window or range instead of requiring you to react when the ball is at one specific spot. This allows for more contact and reduced power.. Nobody can do what you suggested and go from a dead stop to effectively hitting multiple pitches with power. Had to be some movement in some form to get there body going
The program I was a part ofin HS was such garbage. Thankfully the work had already been done by most of the players dads over the course of their youth so we had decent players but my god the coaching 🤦🏼♂️
Look how much this guy is off balance when he swings. I don't know what made A Judge listen to him. Like Ted Williams and other great hitters say, you swing a bat like you are swinging an axe chopping a tree down. The barrel should come off your shoulder and stay in the hitting zone as long as possible. I don't know about all this talk of deceleration and stuff. You need to get your foot down, rotate your hips and let the hands follow with the barrel slicing off your back shoulder with a somewhat level barrel path through the zone. Do you listen to Ted Williams, Albert Pujols, Tony Gwynn, and most all of the greatest hitters ever or this dude? Just watch him swing. He is off balance, pulling off the ball and his head is flying to the moon!
You fools did Ted Williams Albert pujols or tony ever hit 62 home runs! Keep teaching the wrong way I feel bad for the players you coach! Maybe you should listen instead of acting like you know what you’re talking about! There’s a reason mlb players use this guy instead of you two!
So I've been watching people babble about the Deadball Era hitters and how they would fair in todays games with their swing. Now I see you and having been coached as a child by a family member who played in the 1973 World Series for the Mets, this is nothing new....only abandoned for a time. I always looked up to Nap Lajoie, Ty Cobb, Ruth et al and as a kid that's how I learned to swing. The snap you talk about was necessary then with the bats they used which is why my training involved using a very heavy bat. The only thing I've seen that you mentioned in one of your videos that contradicted what I was taught as the fundamental of the swing, is the top hand forearm to upper arm angle is at it's strongest when at 90°. This chicken wing garbage I hear people droning on about is not necessary and is inefficient because you will have to shift from an acute angle to the right angle inevitably. It would be interesting to see you figure out how to integrate your roll with the top arm bent at 90°. It simply offers the most control and when slipping into acute I always noticed grounders tended to be the result. I think the basic idea you present is great for starting the swing, get the barrel to the zone inverse to the trajectory of the ball as quickly as possible. This is nothing new for me, but I'm glad to see it being revisited and put into practice again because I would get annoyed with people who tried to correct my swing and now people do the same with my son's swing. It's big man with big stick swing that everyone can utilize to some extent.
No. Williams would not. Williams talks about rotating the forward/front hip to bring the body and barrel around, i.e. cock it and pull it. This ass-jack, while calling others 'morons', is suggesting that the "snap of the rear leg brings the barrel around". He is creating an issue (i.e. "deceleration") that doesn't exist in order to espouse a theory that doesn't work ("snap from the rear leg"). HE sounds like a moron... but, hey, everyone hits in their own way.
Name the place for the debate. Hitting is hard because of multiple levels from ground up. You're giving rhetoric without logic for complete truth. Sports like basketball and hockey only have two levels. (Handles & Running/Skating). Hitting has "three" levels.
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bro i cannot imagine having access to these kinds of videos when i was a kid,
you would still suck....lol
Try getting a kid to watch them. Mine just wants to watch garbage and play video games.
You would have been the same player because your dedication and commitment to discipline is terrible so u would have been the same
I've watched this in person. Old guy hitting at the cages.....how quick he is rotating to the ball. He wasn't hitting homers, but connecting to the ball looked effortless. He was probably 60+, in the 80-90 MPG cage.
I coach youngsters and I was taught to swing without stoping the momentum and this video has helped me explain to parents that learning proper technique early does wonders for them in the long run
Yep. The front leg plants not to decelerate anything. Rather it accelerates the front hip backward, increasing acceleration of the rear hip forward. The front leg doesn’t full straighten (quad flex) until the moment of impact, then releases. Judge, Bonds, Griffey, Ruth… all of them.
I don’t know about Ruth. Hank Aaron had a push swing like the one this guy criticizes. Almost all of the oldies had pushy or push swings. The first guys to really start looking like HLP showed up in the 70-80s. By the 90s it was clear which way the wind was blowing. All the great hitters from 1990 onward swung like this.
Great videos. I get a lot of my techniques from you. I like to use a tee and place the ball very deep on the outside corner. If you don’t turn the barrel behind you, you will never be able to hit the ball. I like the hitting out of a “telephone booth”. Is this the correct idea?? Thanks for all your lessons!
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@@Fit4C correct
Coaches teaching young batters fall in love with using the front foot to stop because it keeps batters in position behind the ball, so that when they push their swing, it’s more likely to find the ball. If the front foot and front leg aren’t strong, the kids’ goofy swings never make it to the ball. Use HLP with confidence that you don’t need to use the front foot and/or leg to brace. It works from the back hip.
Love this channel but the swing you teach is high level and very advanced.
Yes. And that’s what we love about it.
I thought so too, at first. However once you get the tilt, and the snap and can work on it, the swing won’t feel as awkward if your body is lined up. It it’s not, it will feel over torqued and not as comfortable. Keep at it, it will come together!
You practice anything enough and it no longer is.
I just found this channel a few weeks ago and the 12U girls I coach have started grasping this concept last week and have been hitting missiles all over the field and cage. This works, mainly because of how shallow the barrel gets into the hittng zone. It allows them more room for error on their timing
No its not. Its actually simple. Don't over analyze - paralysis by analysis. The "tilt" is super important. It drives the swing.
He's absolutely right. 😊
Just stumbled upon this video. You absolutely right. I have been coaching my players to do the same. Your video is reassuring
100% correct regarding shot put, discus, hammer, and javelin throwers. batting is not Olympic throwing. Great Video. Thank you for the knowledge.
Thank you so much coach. You've literally changed my 14-year-old! He turning into a great hitter !
I think the reason some of those guys that teach other hitting methods give so much resistance to what you teach is, they’ve got to much invested and can’t afford to reneg on things they’ve taught for year now. They can’t afford to say, “your right, I get it, I need to change my methods”. I’m a 48 year old coach, up until a couple years ago I didn’t teach coil and snap. I have a feeling there are a lot of guys like me, that after watching and trying your methods themselves realized, “damn, I’ve been teaching different than this, I’ve gotta change it up”. Some guys just can’t bring themselves to do that.
I love this comment.The ability to be able heard other people’s method of hitting is going to make you a great coach you’re being a student of the game.
They can both be right. There's no "one way"
@@aaroncrawford8317There is one way. That way is the good way. This is the good way.
I'm 56 years old and I can hit I tried his method and I felt like I was born again I was overwhelmed by the power it created
well coach....I MYSELF would NEVER decelerate during launch.....I would probably de after my follow thru.......
It what golfers do ! He does this because the ball is on the ground about the golf club vertical or up and down. Hitting, the ball is moving and the bat is moving out from the body. Thanks Richard !
lets get this man a high quality camera!
His camera is just fine
The front foot is a timing mechanism. Your body is a car, the front foot is the, gas pedal.
My 10 year old son's baseball coach this year (sons 3rd year of baseball and this coach is brand new to baseball and coaching) is telling him he is wrong to lift his front foot when swinging. He keeps telling him that his dad has taught him wrong and doesn't know what he is doing. Is the coach right and you should never lift/move your front foot when loading?
A handful of MLBers follow Teacherman and my understanding is that less are believers in the mechanics with the exception of Judge and Happ. Gradum and Antonelli seem to have a better handle on explaining the proper and more efficient baseball swing that I prefer to follow. They also have drills they share. Jeff Frye breaks it down in the simplest form if you watch his videos and focuses more on approach. Let's all agree there isn't 1 way only that works for hitting line drive baseballs. Thousands if not millions have hit a baseball and the mechanics are never the same even though they rhyme.
@@spannoschannel599 😂
Jeff Frye.. 16 hr in his whole MLB carreer... 😂
Ive watched multiple videos of that guy, more out of amazement that he ever made it to the big leagues and somehow still has a job in baseball. He is a clown!
Jeff Frye is straight a$$. It doesn’t get any simpler than these videos. Antonelli will give you a bunch of tangential, occasionally secant glimpses into the whisper of an echo of the rumor of HLP, but these videos are extremely simple and concise.
I found that “feeling” that he talks about. It’s totally different than anything you’ve felt hitting a baseball. Once you feel the stretch in the back leg around the glute and the knee, then feel it drive your hips out and upward while snapping, you can’t forget it. These videos are enough to teach yourself for free if you are dedicated.
His method may work, and it may reduce the time required to hit the ball, but he’s misrepresenting the deceleration concept. (It’s not at all about “the bat swings around your body and eventually slows down.) At least describe the thing you’re comparing it to accurately.
Now it makes sense. Hitting is inherently reactionary. All this time I just assumed I suck at baseball. Turns out I'm ideologically opposed to hitting.
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Seems like a combo of both hahaha
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Decelerated, across the body will not work, especially on higher velocity inner half of the plate. All good, and power hitter's weight is planted on the back leg, with weight on the inside, pinch the saddle press feeling off the back leg and foot. Just watch slow mo video of Griffey, Judge, Pujols, Edgar, hips leads, hands and upper body, torso lag, impact through and up the middle, with a high finish.
Most smaller batters that are hitting dingers are doing it with a scissor kick. Even if beer gut can't keep them out of his mouth
Decelerating to swing hard is like riding the brakes to win the Indy 500.
Back half hitting is on fluid movement.
I had a terrible time with collapsing my backside growing up, mostly little league. Chopping down on the ball isn’t going to work either, perhaps in drills to overcompensate a muscle memory thats causing a negative outcome, but the move has got to be however you can get that barrel behind the baseball as quickly and accurately and for as long as possible. Those feels sure worked for Arod and he knows a thing or two about hitting. But I’ve also played with a lot of really talented baseball players and the worst ball players always seem to be the best coaches. That’s what makes a lot of these HOF who they are. They could play with a clear mind and not always obsess over their mechanics. They play free. I’m not saying Arod isn’t a great coach, he’s got some incredible insight, but generally speaking to say something is just flat out the wrong move, might be going a bit far. I can almost guarantee some of these “modern” moves and drills would have helped me immensely. Staying back would have been the biggest one for me, not going out and getting it but catching it deep with a quick launch. I would have been better if I could have stayed back and laid off the low breaking ball out of the zone.
I have a parent/ assistant coach that tries to teach my 10 year old to have a “level swing”. Hate it
What I used to say to support swinging up I would tell them that if someone were to drop a ball from a helicopter and you had to hit it you would definitely have more of a chance swinging south to north in a line to be on the same plane as the ball is coming. Than I would get my both hands and clap them north and south as I move them east to west and tell them the pitcher is on a mound and the ball is coming down so you need the bat to be in the exact opposite plane to have the best chance at hitting it. 😂
@@jessebaseballny3700exactly
Would love if you could demonstrate the HLP while having the scissor move. Thanks for the info!
He’s explained the scissor move as what’s called the ‘out from’ action - when a hitter is regaining his balance out from a swing - not everyone does it, not everyone needs to. It’s a reaction to a swing, not a swing move itself no matter what you hear from hitting gurus selling their wares to emulate the scissors. It’s ridiculously silly to scissor for the sake of scissoring. Just use the body’s energy from the back side to transfer power into the barrel with a clean path. HLP teaches exactly that.
@@mattwalker138 appreciate the tone and helpful info! agreed on scissoring happening for some and not others, it is an athletic move, and don’t do it for the sake of doing it! Just want to see him show it off if he can while still doing it from and out of motion. Think it’s b very helpful to see a hlp version of the scissor vs not high level
@@calvinbaxter7151 don’t think you’ll find him demo’ing that move but maybe at some point
@@mattwalker138 he def swings more like Soto/bonds/Griffey than trout, arenado, castellanos etc. nothing wrong with that btw! Just think it’d be cool and even good for him to try to learn that pattern b as well. Just how my mind works
Been coaching for 30 years. I have never seen any coach teach a kid to stop and start their swing...
I am not a believer , this guy has never played one innjng and wants to tell MLB coaches they have doing it wrong for 75 years.
A blind hog will stumble upon a acorn every now and then.
@@tommyluke6407Everyone who has ever discovered a more efficient method for anything was overturning the entire history of mankind up to that point, and every single man who invented these things was called crazy, stupid, or fraudulent. All of these men were right. It was the world that was wrong. Why do you think he’s such a jerk? It’s because he knows he’s right.
I know this is hecka late. But what about decel of the upper body Richard. I’m an HLP guy, but often get a ton of hitters really over rotating on their upper body. Creating a launch pattern to oppo gap seems to keep that in check, but it looks like an upper body decel does happen??? Some of Aaron’s at bats seem to decel the shoulders, even if it’s not a goal in his pattern???
The upper body doesn’t drive the swing. The hands snap the barrel and the back leg drives the entire body through. It’s why it looks like the barrel is swinging them more than the other way around. The deceleration he is criticizing is a focus on the magical power of “the kinetic chain” to drive a swing, despite the fact that the human body cannot transfer energy to the bat except to, you guessed it, push the bat. You can flail the hands around like a ball on a string, but if you don’t induce action on the actual bat with the wrists, the barrel doesn’t turn or “whip” until the very end right before contact, by which time you’ve probably already rolled the hands over (most bad hitters do this, and almost all the old timers did this as well. They were just good athletes).
The fact is that bats are still heavy, so the barrel is still going to lag behind the rest of the body sometimes, giving that “deceleration” look, but I promise you because I’ve felt it that all you feel is the back leg. You feel the foot digging into the ground, the glute stretching and exploding. You explode out from your body. It doesn’t even feel like you’re really rotating.
@@mike-0451 thx for responding. I really only meant a conscious limit on the end of the swing. I’m not a proponent of decel or the Kinetic chain concept to get the barrel to be propelled forward. I just meant limiting the back end of the swing to limit over rotation. I feel that players that allow themselves to over rotate do a disservice to the importance of the launch. Where a player teaches themselves to end does effect how they begin to some degree. The launch is more critical than the finish. It coaching both ends for younger players has seemed to help their launch pattern.
Wow 😮 thanks man 😊
Right on 👍
Great content coach.
People enjoy your content for the amazing content you provide!! But no need to bash other hitting teachers on their own style. What works for you might not work for them and vice versa.
Jeep the great information coming.🤙🏽
This Guy Rules
Sooooo dropping your hands causes a horizontal bat path ✅ so create a diagonal bat path. Got it!
Make the front leg and front foot placement irrelevant and you’ll mash. It’s all in that hip pivot point.
Now how am I going to find this information after I’ve played my last game? Doesn’t seem fair
Couple concerns hoping your able to adress @teacherman. I like your concept but eye level in your exaggerated examples/drills is all over the place, can you explain or demonstrate that is only a product of the drills and not inherent of the swing . 2 I understand your in a powerful contact point through the whole swing plane but ideally you want to hit the ball with arms still extended correct? Ideally you have your bottom arm locked out through the swing with impact happening at the end of the uncoil. I know not everyone is rolling their hands over anymore and Im ok with that as that happens post contact anyway but that top arm are you still trying to get that extended and elbow locked out as well?
You do not want to hit the ball with arms extended at contact, just after impact is extension. Point of contact is strong top hand palm up punch through the ball, bottom hand palm down pull back of arm tricep feel through. Look at freeze frame of MLB hitters on contact, their top hand arm is flexed, bent at the elbow in a strong position, underhand punch position.
When you demonstrated “across your body” you looked like a hitter for once
A really bad hitter
I hope all these mlb hitters hitting
Would love to have the camera show your full body. Your instruction is so valuable to those of us that can't see you in person. Please ask the cameraman to frame your full body so we can fully experience your instruction that way you intend. Thanks 🙏
So do you think you should never use farm boards?
We don’t say that here.
Similar to a tennis player?
Out from your body and across your body looks so much the same. You turn your body so it confuses me. Do you have any videos showing you doing that in front of a plate?
So it feels like hitting of the rear hip?
Look at the hips. If you’ve ever felt it yourself you see the difference like night and day. In two legs, spinal rotation is dominant. On one, the hips drives everything, going up and out toward the sky.
Did Hank Aaron, ichiro, Clemente hit of their rear leg?
Yes, all of them had rear legged launch
@Sam Van Snellenberg obviously every hitter launched of their rear leg. Where I have a dispute with the Teacherman is at the point of contact. Mays, Mussial, Ichiro, Hank, Clemente, Harper, all made contact with their rear leg in the air. Go look up Roberto Clemente homerun swing during the all-star game his rear leg was up in the air. By the way, that ball traveled over 440 ft. Did Stan Musial make contact with his rear leg on the ground, or was it up in the air? Again, one launches from the rear leg, but not every hitter rear leg, is on the ground at point of contact. It's funny Teacherman never pauses the video, and chooses video that boster his theories. Look up Stan Musial Teacherman I dare you.
@@trajanII I think this is just an issue with feel/queueing vs what actually happens. He pretty much says at much around 7:30.
@Derek Chance either way, it doesn't matter, but don't tell me ichiro hits from his back foot.
you are correct in a sense.... guys/and girls load and launch from the back leg while falling or striding forward. I think the pitch count has alot to do with swings as well. Frank Thomas was a huge front lander, hit bombs too.
Of course he wouldn’t swing! He swings and finds out he’s been a wrong, that makes him a fraud. Sad when people break agreements, and are so bitter when they get checked on it…
Que excelente fuera que este contenido existiera en Español.
Griffey’s swing is all messed up if you listen to him
Is that why so many young hitters have what I call a 2 piece swing?
Anyone know if the HLP swing works with contact hitters?
I’ve used his step by step progression to get contact hitters driving the ball, and kids who didn’t make consistent contact (always late) making contact. It’s early in the season, but I’m encouraged by the results so far.
yes
that all sounded terrible, smooth continuous fluid motion
Jesus! By planting your front leg you create torque, you don’t actually have any points of deceleration. This guy teaches uppercut swings. When you tilt back that causes you to decelerate and stops weight transfer. So what he teaches counters what he preaches. Please everyone go watch Tony Gwynn hit, that’s what we need more of!
You should stop working about other "techniques " and worry more about yours which can't hit a low or high outside fastball in baseball. In softball, your "technique" is useless.
You can't say a feeling is wrong if it works. It's easy to not worry about where power comes from when working with big leaguers who know how to produce it from the ground up. To understand why this works for guys like Judge, you have to look at their swings before these new feels were introduced. Like Judge had such an aggressive forward move, he needed to focus more on staying back. And it's okay if he doesn't get a full weight shift into the ball because he's fucking Hercules and it's a short porch to right at home. I'd love to see teacherman break down Jose altuve's swing.
Jose Altuve, in earnest since 2022, has been doing exactly what Judge and all the other great hitters do. You see the barrel turn and blur out behind him, then it carries him through the zone. He has an HLP swing.
Trout and Othani back leg is coming off the ground … no way they are hitting off back leg
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At least someone brought up mechanics. They are still hitting from the back hip. Yes, their back feet come up, and then right back down, or they’ll fall over backwards. Bonds often did fall over backwards, to a point his back leg would land on the plate.
Bingo. Wait until you look at Cabrera, Altuve, Yordan, Griffey, etc. this dude’s one guy went 1 for 16 in the ALCS because he can’t get the bat out against good pitching.
They are rotation freaks of nature, though their foot lifts their weight is still back, hips explode in sync with arms/hands onto a stiff front side. You'll notice they come back down onto the back foot. Similar to guys that crush a golf ball, Sheffler, Thomas, they come off that back foot too. Good on you picking it up. Some great hitters hips lead the upper body, other like Trout here hips and hands are in sync.
@@CollegeRecruitsNW their weight isn’t back, it’s in the front hip until energy is expelled through the swing to contact. Then the weight shifts back again.
This is dumb! This is such a complicated conversation. There are a lot of things that he says that make sense and are correct…..BUT there are A LOT of things that he says that are for manipulation!
No REAL hitting coach is going to teach a player to “stop” or create “pauses” in their swing.(See Charles Barkley’s golf swing) lol. What hitting coaches do is break down the swing into sections so that hitters can more easily understand the mechanics…..The props I give this guy is his “bat path” of the swing. I think he has something going there, however, some of his drills are a little extreme when teaching the bat path.
The path of the bat needs to match the ball….it is as simple as that!! Anything else will give you deviation.
The whole debate about the front foot being down on the swimg is non negotiable. ANYONE worth mentioning, who has EVER swung a bat, had their front foot down before they swung the bat. Personally I don’t care what you do with your front foot before the ball is released from the pitchers hand, but just know that before you swing…..ypur front foot has to be planted on the ground!…….If you don’t believe me then go out and try it.
He basically just said physics changes when you react to a pitch. Hmmmmmm
I just don’t understand why this guy cuts his bat barrels down. Never seen him with an unaltered bat.
The idea behind this training aid is to think about hitting through the baseball/softball. Hitters will be able to feel if they are rolling the bat over or hitting under the ball, receiving instant feedback based on their action so they can adjust accordingly. It is also designed for honing in your swing through slow motion repetitions without getting fatigued. It helps with staying on plane all the way through the hitting zone. The bat is extremely lite and very easy to control. It can be used with whiffle balls, foam balls and tennis balls for drill work and indoor use. It is specifically designed in making sure that you are staying on plane all the way through the hitting zone. It gives instant feedback with flight travel of the ball..
@@michaeldorne9242 If he uses a normal bat he'll fall flat on his face as he almost does every swing.
Show me where he doesn't
There's one very huge flaw in this concept for the AVERAGE hitter, and that is regarding timing. There's 2 ways to fire the swing and this one is great for power but for hitters without exceptional timing they will struggle mightily for contact.
This is why he preaches being ready at release, which is something to help with timing. Rather than focus on getting the foot down on time like other coaches teach, he focuses on getting ur coil and getting to ur slot at the release of the pitcher so that you can launch ur swing instantly when u decide to, hence the term “launch quickness”
@@evanmendoza6116 Nah it's not accurate, he doesn't focus on getting the foot down but you still have to get it down. He doesn't teach to KEEP the foot down. But all of that is irrelevant and doesn't get to my original point, you can be ready but that doesn't have anything to do with if you made the right or wrong decision on when to launch. If you go all at once there very slim margin of error which is what this hitting style provides
@@fishncoach8699If you go all at once you’ll almost never get caught. The two step means they need to commit to a bad swing to do anything; they have already made it so that they must stride or step forward to swing well, but once you get there it’s almost impossible to effectively make a decision, since you’ve already timed yourself to a pitch that could just fade away or drop. A two step launch means you have to cheat to pitches.
You can’t react to anything in two steps. It has to be sudden. It has to be instant, just like the ball flying 96 mph at you.
@@fishncoach8699I don’t even know how you can misunderstand-not even misunderstand, you literally just couldn’t perform the most sequential logical calculus. This swing gives you the margin of error; the other takes it away. Somehow, you have got this a$$ backwards not through a simple misunderstanding of the method, but of elementary logic. If I only need to perform one move to swing and can do it instantly, it doesn’t matter if it’s a changeup or a fastball: if I am expecting a changeup but get a fastball, I know that I can be fast enough to adjust right there. You can let the ball travel just like you would a changeup. If it is a changeup, the same principle applies, only I don’t need to cheat to cheat because I know I have the quickness to let me watch the pitch and react.
Pitchers are very good. Sometimes they will beat me, but they will always beat me if I am incapable of actually adjusting to speed change in real time.
@@mike-0451You must have read it wrong. I said two ways to fire. Not two steps. In the first way your hands and weight stay back in a launch position that is more stretched, ready to fire and go all at once at the ball. This results in more power and less contact rate. In way two, there is a slow leaking of the hands and weight shift ( power) that creates a timing window or range instead of requiring you to react when the ball is at one specific spot. This allows for more contact and reduced power..
Nobody can do what you suggested and go from a dead stop to effectively hitting multiple pitches with power. Had to be some movement in some form to get there body going
This guy is a superhero to youth baseball players…. Every young ball player should be studying his content
This old fella can’t even keep a stable posture throughout a swing lol
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Know anyone in Illinois that teaches your method? My son is 8 and I’d like to get him started with this type of swing.
The program I was a part ofin HS was such garbage. Thankfully the work had already been done by most of the players dads over the course of their youth so we had decent players but my god the coaching 🤦🏼♂️
Ohh Jesus. Forget thinking about all that Sh*t. Just widen out the stance, see the ball, drop the elbow and swing. It’s that simple.
Frank Thomas hit off his front foot, often lifting his back foot off the ground... lifetime .301 with 521 HR... fax!!!
Look how much this guy is off balance when he swings. I don't know what made A Judge listen to him. Like Ted Williams and other great hitters say, you swing a bat like you are swinging an axe chopping a tree down. The barrel should come off your shoulder and stay in the hitting zone as long as possible. I don't know about all this talk of deceleration and stuff. You need to get your foot down, rotate your hips and let the hands follow with the barrel slicing off your back shoulder with a somewhat level barrel path through the zone. Do you listen to Ted Williams, Albert Pujols, Tony Gwynn, and most all of the greatest hitters ever or this dude? Just watch him swing. He is off balance, pulling off the ball and his head is flying to the moon!
I agree, he drops his back shoulder too much, tilts his head too much, and is off balance.
You fools did Ted Williams Albert pujols or tony ever hit 62 home runs! Keep teaching the wrong way I feel bad for the players you coach! Maybe you should listen instead of acting like you know what you’re talking about! There’s a reason mlb players use this guy instead of you two!
@@CollegeRecruitsNW Every swing he falls over. Great for hitting fly balls
Nobody teaches this!
Who is he talking about?
So I've been watching people babble about the Deadball Era hitters and how they would fair in todays games with their swing. Now I see you and having been coached as a child by a family member who played in the 1973 World Series for the Mets, this is nothing new....only abandoned for a time. I always looked up to Nap Lajoie, Ty Cobb, Ruth et al and as a kid that's how I learned to swing. The snap you talk about was necessary then with the bats they used which is why my training involved using a very heavy bat. The only thing I've seen that you mentioned in one of your videos that contradicted what I was taught as the fundamental of the swing, is the top hand forearm to upper arm angle is at it's strongest when at 90°. This chicken wing garbage I hear people droning on about is not necessary and is inefficient because you will have to shift from an acute angle to the right angle inevitably. It would be interesting to see you figure out how to integrate your roll with the top arm bent at 90°. It simply offers the most control and when slipping into acute I always noticed grounders tended to be the result. I think the basic idea you present is great for starting the swing, get the barrel to the zone inverse to the trajectory of the ball as quickly as possible. This is nothing new for me, but I'm glad to see it being revisited and put into practice again because I would get annoyed with people who tried to correct my swing and now people do the same with my son's swing. It's big man with big stick swing that everyone can utilize to some extent.
It works fokes 😊
The real question is are you saved by the blood of Jesus Hitterman?
Huh?
Greg shut up dude
I am amen
Where u get the blood of Jesus?
Hitterman is blessed by these gifts he bestows upon us 🙏
“Perpetuity” it’s not pertuity. LOL!😂
And if you wait for your pitch. You swing when you want to.
Never heard of such nonsense
Been teaching my kid these techniques and he’s been dominating in little league lol. I dont come from a baseball background but seems like it works
How old is your son ??
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Ted Williams, the greatest hitter of all time, would approve this message. Read his book the Science of hitting.
No. Williams would not. Williams talks about rotating the forward/front hip to bring the body and barrel around, i.e. cock it and pull it. This ass-jack, while calling others 'morons', is suggesting that the "snap of the rear leg brings the barrel around". He is creating an issue (i.e. "deceleration") that doesn't exist in order to espouse a theory that doesn't work ("snap from the rear leg"). HE sounds like a moron... but, hey, everyone hits in their own way.
Name the place for the debate. Hitting is hard because of multiple levels from ground up. You're giving rhetoric without logic for complete truth. Sports like basketball and hockey only have two levels. (Handles & Running/Skating). Hitting has "three" levels.