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Wow I did not get why anyone would be into one of these until I got my hands on one. There is so much texture and excitement in the sweeps and transitions
I truly believe that now is the best time in history for entry level synthesis. Especially at the price point and variety. I bought a Roland SH-101 for 50GBP back in the day and sure it was a bargain. But only had CV & Gate in a newly evolving MIDI world. Now look at what you can get these days. Endless opportunities.
So... back in the day... everything or "ev-re-fin" synthesizer was all through-hole construction all hand soldered and wired. With the advent of modern surface mounted electronics, the cost of production and R&D has come down substantially. So we're in a renaissance of analog synthesis. Despite living in a digital world, the human side of interfacing with digital gear still has a strong analog side to it. Your cell phone has lots of analog parts in it. Your computer still consists of tons of analog parts. So what's old is new again at price point that allows smaller vendors to compete and larger vendors to expand product lines.
Best time in history for entry level synthesis; I agree, but please, please do not support this shameless, copycat company, Behringer. It’s a disgrace, 100%.
Damn. Loved every minute of this. Well done and just simply brilliant! You know us old guys hate everything but this was just really entertaining and inspiring. The rd9 and edge brought a huge grin. Thanks and many good ones! Well played. Well played.
I wasn’t planning on getting an Edge, but it sounds so awesome and looks super fun to use. Just waiting for my Moog Mavis to sell so I can get an Edge AND still have enough money left over to get a Pro-VS too.
Looks fun, and the immediacy of the sequencer really makes me wish the Crave had one like this, with knobs! A diy project for me to attempt some day perhaps... Love the magenta color
This honestly seems like the exact thing I’m looking for to get into synths. A semi basic analogue synth with an intuitive sequencer. Seems like a boat load of fun. Def gonna try to get one soon. Thanks for making informative and in depth reviews.
Thanks for this. I got one, and I have just been having a blast, hunting and pecking. Now I need to figure out how it actually works. This is a great demo, for explaining some things I didn't understand. This is one of the most interesting basic synths I've ever tried. Being a guitar player, synths are mostly just a fun thing, for me. But I do want to make music, with them. Thanks, again!
I always enjoy your reviews; they are top notch! I own several Behringer synths and drum machines, including 2 Craves, and have just purchased an Edge. Have you published a you-tube video playing a Crave and Edge together? I would like to see your take on those two together, As always, thanks for posting. Cheers!
i notice you have the edge and crave synced on tempo using assign on the crave and adv/gate on the edge i have tried this on all three options and can't get it to work they are my first ever electronic instruments and iam a complete noob i have read the instruction book and used the assign menu pressing shift and all that but it wont adv the clock on the edge please help!
Great overview. Thanks. I'm a little confused though about how the Edge connects to a drum machine. I have a Model Cycles. If anyone knows how I connect both units I'd be a happy man..
A perhaps sometimes forgotten competitor in this area: Arturia Minibrute 2S ! (The big one with the sequencer) + way more flexible sequencer + more patchpoints + much longer patterns + wavefolding (+modulating!) +2 syncable LFO's (+time divisions!) And probably more. Powerful, agressive sound. Had a good blast with it a couple of yeara ago. And remember, with the right sequencing, almost any analogue synth is capable of (some) percussion.....
I will get this, I want the Slice to come out first and add a few things to my modular system. I use my Crave as module same as my Hades and Neutron, and K2 the sounds I get are incredible but I guess I’m planning for the unplannable! Great video!
Since it’s probably the cem 3340 Osc clone chip it’s a shame they didn’t give access to saw and pulse width to further differentiate it from the Moog and to expand the timbres even if controls where simply left to cv .
I've been wanting a DFAM for years now but the costs were always just a little out of my budget. So super happy Behringer is releasing this, now I need to grab this when it hits stores. I wonder if Moog will release an updated DFAM. I was thinking lately a version 2 was coming because they've been discounting it all year probably to get rid of stock
I got the DFAM the first month it came out and till this day love it. I ended up selling the Mother 32 and bought a Subharmonicon, but really wanted a 2nd DFAM. Point is now I don’t need to sell the Sbharmonicon. I’ll just get one of these. I love the price.
@@thedeepblueskys I just put a second DFAM in my cart then saw this so holding off... I don't own anything from Behringer currently but i feel this has lured me over...
theres something odd about this demo. when the res is turned up the Edge starts to self oscillate. However it doesnt do this in your patches. so when you get to 'building a beat' at around 17mins the edge doesnt act like it does in your video. there is no obvious res in the sound even though you have it almost at full (ie 4 o'clock).
This was a pre production unit I managed to get hold of, which wasn’t working quite as it should. It was only on loan. I’ve now managed to get hold of a production units and it’s more resonant. Like yours it starts self oscillation much earlier.
thanks for the great review! just got into it (first analog) and can't understand the difference between the VCA output and phones (which you are using), is it simply mono vs stereo? (same misunderstanding of the EXT audio input and how to use it... i apologize for the noob questions;)
Cheers. The vCA and headphones are the same (different levels perhaps) but it means you can route the VCA back into the external input for some gnarly stuff and still have the phones output for the ‘final’ output. It’s a trick people used to do in the Minimoog for more raucous feedback saturation.The ext input works in eurorack levels which are very high - so just plugging an instrument in or whatever won’t have enough power to be heard. You need to preamp a ‘normal’ signal - the 2600 has a preamp circuit specifically to do this. Don’t works with other eurorack kit and with the edge and another crave etc.
18:29 'The addition of pink is nice' It's just dawned on me, and I maybe be late to the party on this one. But is that why it's a pink paint job? It's the pink noise version of the DFAM.
I love the intro! It would be interesting to hear more direct comparison between Edge and DFAM, but I'm guessing there's probably not much difference to hear ;-)
Pretty sure he said there was a video coming, but he also said in the video that it's pretty much the same. Different filter and it being the curtis chip instead of the moog, but... that is probably only going to affect the color of the sound. This seems to get you 90% there for like 1/3rd the price. (plus it has midi, and that was a huge oversight from moog.)
It just put my dfam up for sale but thought I should confirm first, anyone know if midi means it also has clock/sequencer reset?? I’d assume they added it, such a bummer to not have on dfam.
I had the DFAM and didn’t enjoy it- but then I’ve also owned both the Crave and the M32 and didn’t get on with the Moog original there either. I’m not sure I need the Edge, but I’ll likely be buying it anyway…
looks like a fun machine to pair with a dfam... to my ear the filter wich kinda is the sound are not even close but that does not mean they are bad just different
Hello ! Just received mine from Thomann and I get no sound …tried moving knobs cutoffs …nothing.Is it possible to mute it somehow or am I so damn unlucky and have to return it ????please tell me if I can reset it somehow I can’t find answers online in forums cause it’s too early
If you can pause the video at some point when it’s not connected to anything else and copy the setting - press the trigger button you should hear something. Make sure you’re using the right output.
@@wonderwheel80s that's true. I just wish sometimes it could be implemented as a midi in feature. Would be easy to control with any keyboard and it would free the pitch patch points for modulation. But you have a point
Always better to gig the Behringer down the pub instead of a DFAM, would you not agree? The thought of having beer spilled over your DFAM...let's not go there. We should refer to them as Beeringers. Better to sacrifice a Beeringer than the originals. Sorted guv. Nice vid Starski, can't wait for the next videos to fall off the back of a lorry. Scarper! It's the filth!
Moog has to make the DFAM worth it's price tag again by at least adding MIDI and USB to their second incantation or else I'm gonna pull the trigger on one of these things despite it sounding a lot worse. What were they thinking?
I don't know. I feel like between my Neutron and B2600, I have my semi-modular analog noise needs satisfied. The sequencer might be fun though. I just don't know.
@@StarskyCarr yes, I noticed that. I would like a "last step" feature as with the erica synth DB-01. It's super intuitive and easy to use. Let's hope Behringer adds something similar with a firmware update...one day :-D
Bout bloody time. Great demo, had my eye on this for what seems like forever. I'm guessing it'll be Christmas by the time they're widely available. Having to pre-order neutrons these days. Meh! SC can I interest you in a transcendent 2000?
Freaking wicked overview…Looking forward to getting one… I had a play on a DFAM, it’s so hypnotic , this will be my budget gateway to getting in that zone… but MOOGS filter are the dogs gonads. I’ll take this roughneck version though, it’s a little nutter . 🤪 Gr8 stuff
Yup...Moog oscillators/filters really do sound great. I own lots of Behringer gear and love it all, but every time I fire up my lowly little Werkstatt, my ears perk up just a tad more than usual. There IS something more there. Dunno.
@@mikemeengs5720 Definitely Moog has got the cream and power....I have a Moog minitaur, so look forward to putting the edge through its filter . I still like the character of the edge... its literally edgy, just needs plastic surgery on the bottom end.
I have a DFAM and listened to most of this with headphones and not really watching. Aside from the noise and a few other moments where differences presented, this sounds remarkably close to the "real thing". I think the DFAM is prettier and I'm sure it feels better but the price is hard to ignore. I do wish Behringer would have "one upped" Moog with some more steps, more patch points, and maybe some effects but still... The thought of getting one of these as a 2nd "DFAM" is intriguing.
@@ACIDGREENTECHNO everyone says that, but can the audience hear it in the mix? And does it matter on a noodling machine like the DFAM? I dunno... perhaps there's a market for "good enough".
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Wow I did not get why anyone would be into one of these until I got my hands on one. There is so much texture and excitement in the sweeps and transitions
please dont try be a sound engineer
So so glad you are reviewing this. Saw the launch video from Behringer, with the space madness and got very excited
Another piece il add to the collection after watching a Starsky Carr review! 😎 sounds perfect for my live acid house vids
I truly believe that now is the best time in history for entry level synthesis. Especially at the price point and variety. I bought a Roland SH-101 for 50GBP back in the day and sure it was a bargain. But only had CV & Gate in a newly evolving MIDI world. Now look at what you can get these days. Endless opportunities.
So... back in the day... everything or "ev-re-fin" synthesizer was all through-hole construction all hand soldered and wired. With the advent of modern surface mounted electronics, the cost of production and R&D has come down substantially. So we're in a renaissance of analog synthesis. Despite living in a digital world, the human side of interfacing with digital gear still has a strong analog side to it. Your cell phone has lots of analog parts in it. Your computer still consists of tons of analog parts.
So what's old is new again at price point that allows smaller vendors to compete and larger vendors to expand product lines.
Yup. No doubt.
I'm a 60 year-old kid who just wants to play with my new toys.
Yes and No. Problem is "History" does not include the Future. Not even the close future. I think I might wait a bit before I decide to agree 😉
Best time in history for entry level synthesis; I agree, but please, please do not support this shameless, copycat company, Behringer. It’s a disgrace, 100%.
50GBP? Wow, you overpaid for the "back in the day" prices!
love your tutorials they are always speaking so funny with a light ironical touch.
Damn. Loved every minute of this.
Well done and just simply brilliant!
You know us old guys hate everything but this was just really entertaining and inspiring.
The rd9 and edge brought a huge grin.
Thanks and many good ones!
Well played. Well played.
I might have to pick one of these up. The workflow reminds me of what I do with Akemie's Taiko. A messed up delicious noise maker thingy.
I wasn’t planning on getting an Edge, but it sounds so awesome and looks super fun to use. Just waiting for my Moog Mavis to sell so I can get an Edge AND still have enough money left over to get a Pro-VS too.
The final jam is AESTHETIC. It's like a metallic synth version of a row of seaside houses.
Looks fun, and the immediacy of the sequencer really makes me wish the Crave had one like this, with knobs! A diy project for me to attempt some day perhaps... Love the magenta color
Couldn't you just sequence the crave using an edge?
for my taste that edge sequencer produces too much clicks in low timbres, makes it unusable for certain sounds 😒 nice mashine tho
This honestly seems like the exact thing I’m looking for to get into synths. A semi basic analogue synth with an intuitive sequencer. Seems like a boat load of fun. Def gonna try to get one soon. Thanks for making informative and in depth reviews.
its perfect as a groove assist or top layer not saying it isn't more versatile but that would be it's common usage.
The Edge sounds awesome, lovely demonstration.
Thanks for this. I got one, and I have just been having a blast, hunting and pecking. Now I need to figure out how it actually works. This is a great demo, for explaining some things I didn't understand. This is one of the most interesting basic synths I've ever tried. Being a guitar player, synths are mostly just a fun thing, for me. But I do want to make music, with them. Thanks, again!
I always enjoy your reviews; they are top notch! I own several Behringer synths and drum machines, including 2 Craves, and have just purchased an Edge. Have you published a you-tube video playing a Crave and Edge together? I would like to see your take on those two together, As always, thanks for posting. Cheers!
This sounds great. I bet it would be great to add some flavor to drums in an industrial track.
100%
YES, I've been waiting so long for this to come out, and for an indepth review specifically comparing it to the DFAM. So excited! Great video!
That jam with the RD9 was absolutely rocking.
looks like a good synth for industrial and cyberpunk
Great video and great demo of the edge convinced me to get one. It sounds great 👍
i notice you have the edge and crave synced on tempo using assign on the crave and adv/gate on the edge i have tried this on all three options and can't get it to work they are my first ever electronic instruments and iam a complete noob i have read the instruction book and used the assign menu pressing shift and all that but it wont adv the clock on the edge please help!
Tremendous Toms... by the time I got to the end of this section, I pre-ordered my Edge.
Great video! I have one on order and can’t wait to run it with my DFAM / Crave / Minitaur and Toro when it arrives.
Great walk thru ...cheer for this 💚
28:49 what a move mate. Superb 👌🏻
Great overview. Thanks. I'm a little confused though about how the Edge connects to a drum machine. I have a Model Cycles. If anyone knows how I connect both units I'd be a happy man..
send MIDI clock from the modal cycles and set the edge to external clock - should be super simple.
Thank you..
Just got my Edge. It was super easy. Sounds great.. Many thanks
Really helpful video to a new Edge owner. Many thanks!
A perhaps sometimes forgotten competitor in this area:
Arturia Minibrute 2S !
(The big one with the sequencer)
+ way more flexible sequencer
+ more patchpoints
+ much longer patterns
+ wavefolding (+modulating!)
+2 syncable LFO's (+time divisions!)
And probably more.
Powerful, agressive sound. Had a good blast with it a couple of yeara ago.
And remember, with the right sequencing, almost any analogue synth is capable of (some) percussion.....
You missed out the massive price difference
@@annother3350 used 2S, 350 euros. Not bad, not bad...
bro they arent even comparable by price or functionality, they both serve completely different purposes and difference niches.
not bad not bad? It's litterally 3x the price + a litle more in Australia... and again they both are used completely different from one another
Paired with Crave - just a path cable, without any deeper settings? Explane please.
Not sure what you’re after. Form which bit? Maybe it’s the bit where I’m just sending the clock?
I will get this, I want the Slice to come out first and add a few things to my modular system. I use my Crave as module same as my Hades and Neutron, and K2 the sounds I get are incredible but I guess I’m planning for the unplannable! Great video!
Great demo as usual. Getting an Edge as soon as they’re back in stock at Sweetwater.
Can you save patches /patterns on this?
No
Since it’s probably the cem 3340 Osc clone chip it’s a shame they didn’t give access to saw and pulse width to further differentiate it from the Moog and to expand the timbres even if controls where simply left to cv .
Interesting. EDGE XL?
Sounds like a fun mod
That would've required actual R&D tho😅
@@laylahassomethingtosay I’m sure the choice of font and fine faux wood grain pattern was a heavy enough demand on their top minds 🤣
@@Death_By_Media And imagine the internal war about the colour!
I've been wanting a DFAM for years now but the costs were always just a little out of my budget. So super happy Behringer is releasing this, now I need to grab this when it hits stores.
I wonder if Moog will release an updated DFAM. I was thinking lately a version 2 was coming because they've been discounting it all year probably to get rid of stock
Buy cheap, buy twice
I got the DFAM the first month it came out and till this day love it. I ended up selling the Mother 32 and bought a Subharmonicon, but really wanted a 2nd DFAM. Point is now I don’t need to sell the Sbharmonicon. I’ll just get one of these. I love the price.
@@thedeepblueskys I just put a second DFAM in my cart then saw this so holding off... I don't own anything from Behringer currently but i feel this has lured me over...
@@iamYork_ for the price you can’t beat it.
@@thedeepblueskys my thoughts exactly...
Great review with deep insights into this sonic beast!
Great presentation of the device. I like your intro
Hope to encounter the mysterious insider in the alleyway someday
I gave up waiting on this to drop so I bought the Crave yesterday morning… Today your boy is feeling discouraged lol
This with the addition of rd9 or rd8 is a killer combination
You can add volca drum for Extra chaos
I’ve got a dfam love the look not sure if it’s worth the money must resist
I have 2 dfams and will be getting one of these just for a different sonic flavor
I just pick one up today. You get sost in twisting knobs and making crazy loops. I look up and two hours went by in a flash.
Bangin review mate thank you 👌
Glad you enjoyed it
It's amazing how "nine inch nailsy" it is.
Yes!! This is what makes me keen to get it hey!!
That's why I need it!!! 😂❤
Me too!
I was thinking the exact same thing! Can't wait to get my Pig on
Agree and waiting for mine so I can add some drone noise to it .
i use my rd8s trigger outs to get funky with my DFAM, give that envelope time to breathe, so the same would be applicable here.
man, I love Behringer
Wow ! I thought seeing Lord Lucan riding Shergar had more chance than the 'Edge' actually being in the shops.
No sound for some reason? 😳
I need to get me one of these. I nearly pulled the trigger on a DFAM but think I will Pre-order this.
theres something odd about this demo. when the res is turned up the Edge starts to self oscillate. However it doesnt do this in your patches. so when you get to 'building a beat' at around 17mins the edge doesnt act like it does in your video. there is no obvious res in the sound even though you have it almost at full (ie 4 o'clock).
This was a pre production unit I managed to get hold of, which wasn’t working quite as it should. It was only on loan. I’ve now managed to get hold of a production units and it’s more resonant. Like yours it starts self oscillation much earlier.
@@StarskyCarr thanks for that clarification.
Do you think it has more flexibility than the dfam?
Cause I sold my Dfam.
And my mother 32.
I’ll upload my DFAM comparison on Sunday hopefully. It essentially the same but with a couple of extras - pink noise and midi.
@@StarskyCarr And don't forget the clock scale. Multiply, division and triplets!! Great!
This or the neutron? I have the volca Drum and korg monotribe.
Or the volca modular?
Can the edge be sequenced with an external piece of hardware? Like can I sequence it with an MPC one?
Thanks for the video , great gear
Fantastic work
Thanks 😊
Awesome! Can't wait
This sounds awesome.
That last jam 👌
Actually makes me want one.
Add the rd9 and a 303 and you've got a set on the go.
Or a T8 on the cheap
Plan to order one as soon as i can
Why does the Trigger button display the number: 1?
Is it because it always triggers step 1? If so, it will always trigger the sequencer knob settings for that step.
Just got one - is there any way to limit the number of steps to 6 for tunes in 3/4 or 6/8?
I wasn't too sure about this until now! Can imagine getting lost in that! Got the crave and volca fm, be mental sounds 👌 😋
thanks for the great review! just got into it (first analog) and can't understand the difference between the VCA output and phones (which you are using), is it simply mono vs stereo? (same misunderstanding of the EXT audio input and how to use it... i apologize for the noob questions;)
Cheers. The vCA and headphones are the same (different levels perhaps) but it means you can route the VCA back into the external input for some gnarly stuff and still have the phones output for the ‘final’ output. It’s a trick people used to do in the Minimoog for more raucous feedback saturation.The ext input works in eurorack levels which are very high - so just plugging an instrument in or whatever won’t have enough power to be heard. You need to preamp a ‘normal’ signal - the 2600 has a preamp circuit specifically to do this. Don’t works with other eurorack kit and with the edge and another crave etc.
@@StarskyCarr wow thanks for such a great explaination! already got a lot from your videos, can't thank you enough! love that new world of analog :)))
18:29 'The addition of pink is nice' It's just dawned on me, and I maybe be late to the party on this one. But is that why it's a pink paint job? It's the pink noise version of the DFAM.
Cyberpunk pink
Tthe MIDI does what: note, velocity and clock? Does it restart the internal sequencer?
Oh man,,,been waiting so long,,,,,cant wait to get hold of this...
Great vid. I'm in the market for some of this gadgetry.
Thank you!
I love the intro!
It would be interesting to hear more direct comparison between Edge and DFAM, but I'm guessing there's probably not much difference to hear ;-)
Pretty sure he said there was a video coming, but he also said in the video that it's pretty much the same. Different filter and it being the curtis chip instead of the moog, but... that is probably only going to affect the color of the sound. This seems to get you 90% there for like 1/3rd the price. (plus it has midi, and that was a huge oversight from moog.)
Yeah… vs coming Sunday. And you’ve pretty much summed it up. Some cool demos in there with them together.
My finger is on the button! Nice video sir. Will be looking out for this come November - unless I snag a DFAM in the mean time 😅
It just put my dfam up for sale but thought I should confirm first, anyone know if midi means it also has clock/sequencer reset?? I’d assume they added it, such a bummer to not have on dfam.
I had the DFAM and didn’t enjoy it- but then I’ve also owned both the Crave and the M32 and didn’t get on with the Moog original there either. I’m not sure I need the Edge, but I’ll likely be buying it anyway…
Great sounds, good review, although I was hoping some details of the midi sequencing options.
I think I’ll do something extra on that. Quite a lot of folks are interested in it. I’m
@@StarskyCarr Thank you, that would be cool, looking forward to it,. Your
@@lesterfalcon1350 😂😂
i like the analog style sequencer. can the sequence be patched to a crave for example
Yeah just patch the outputs - super simple
@@StarskyCarr patch the “outputs”? MIDI din? 1 of the 15 patch outs? Which assign mode? What are you talking about? This needs much more clarification
looks like a fun machine to pair with a dfam... to my ear the filter wich kinda is the sound are not even close but that does not mean they are bad just different
Hello ! Just received mine from Thomann and I get no sound …tried moving knobs cutoffs …nothing.Is it possible to mute it somehow or am I so damn unlucky and have to return it ????please tell me if I can reset it somehow I can’t find answers online in forums cause it’s too early
If you can pause the video at some point when it’s not connected to anything else and copy the setting - press the trigger button you should hear something. Make sure you’re using the right output.
Surely I'm not the only one screaming at my display, "PATCH VELOCITY TO FM!!!"
can you use for sync with the rd9 the din midi sync cable?
Sounds really good
Can you use it with an external sequencer? Thanks
Is there any resource showcasing the scale knob on the Edge?
i just ordered one 😮
i have a clavinova with midi out. can i connecz it to the edge or do i need other hardware in between?
He has another video on midi question and confirms the midi in responds to midi clock, note and velocity, So you should be good with just a midi cable
Ordered. But apparently no stock till August. Although it is much cheaper in the UK stores, otherwise I would have bought from Germany.
Please someone make a stand to hold both Edge and Crave 🙏🏻
Thanks a lot ! I need one now :)
seems like a Synare engine/architecture is available,,,,, am I seeing this correctly?
would love some kind of duophonic mode on this. I want more paraphony in semi modular format !
Why?
You can control the pitch of the 2 oscillators independently, that's basic paraphony I guess.
@@DurararaX2 i just love weird paraphonic behavior and really basic harmonies
@@wonderwheel80s that's true. I just wish sometimes it could be implemented as a midi in feature. Would be easy to control with any keyboard and it would free the pitch patch points for modulation. But you have a point
I am curious, when recording say the edge and crave into a DAW. How do you record them on their own separate track?
Different Audio ins into an Audio interface
Coupled with a sampler = techno combo ❤
Oh this is gonna sound great on my Tascam 424.🤖📼🛸
Ok great. We know the deal. Hopefully they'll just drop it, at some point. Glad you got to give a go, after all this time.
Brilliant tutorial vid🎉
Wow is fabolous EDGE my synt drum ,ritmic preferito
Always better to gig the Behringer down the pub instead of a DFAM, would you not agree? The thought of having beer spilled over your DFAM...let's not go there. We should refer to them as Beeringers. Better to sacrifice a Beeringer than the originals. Sorted guv. Nice vid Starski, can't wait for the next videos to fall off the back of a lorry. Scarper! It's the filth!
Moog has to make the DFAM worth it's price tag again by at least adding MIDI and USB to their second incantation or else I'm gonna pull the trigger on one of these things despite it sounding a lot worse. What were they thinking?
I don't know. I feel like between my Neutron and B2600, I have my semi-modular analog noise needs satisfied. The sequencer might be fun though.
I just don't know.
Any possibility to create poly rhythms?
Only when using with other kit. I do some polymetric stuff with the RD9 demo in this.
@@StarskyCarr yes, I noticed that. I would like a "last step" feature as with the erica synth DB-01. It's super intuitive and easy to use. Let's hope Behringer adds something similar with a firmware update...one day :-D
Bout bloody time. Great demo, had my eye on this for what seems like forever. I'm guessing it'll be Christmas by the time they're widely available. Having to pre-order neutrons these days. Meh! SC can I interest you in a transcendent 2000?
Freaking wicked overview…Looking forward to getting one… I had a play on a DFAM, it’s so hypnotic , this will be my budget gateway to getting in that zone… but MOOGS filter are the dogs gonads. I’ll take this roughneck version though, it’s a little nutter . 🤪 Gr8 stuff
Yup...Moog oscillators/filters really do sound great. I own lots of Behringer gear and love it all, but every time I fire up my lowly little Werkstatt, my ears perk up just a tad more than usual. There IS something more there. Dunno.
@@mikemeengs5720 Definitely Moog has got the cream and power....I have a Moog minitaur, so look forward to putting the edge through its filter . I still like the character of the edge... its literally edgy, just needs plastic surgery on the bottom end.
21:00 sounds so much like the good old Quake 1 OST
I have a DFAM and listened to most of this with headphones and not really watching. Aside from the noise and a few other moments where differences presented, this sounds remarkably close to the "real thing". I think the DFAM is prettier and I'm sure it feels better but the price is hard to ignore. I do wish Behringer would have "one upped" Moog with some more steps, more patch points, and maybe some effects but still... The thought of getting one of these as a 2nd "DFAM" is intriguing.
yo filters on the moog are better
@@ACIDGREENTECHNO everyone says that, but can the audience hear it in the mix? And does it matter on a noodling machine like the DFAM? I dunno... perhaps there's a market for "good enough".
@@christophervincent77 yo i'll keep my 2 dfams and mafd 😅
@@ACIDGREENTECHNO I'm keeping my DFAM/M32/SubH combo as well... but will I buy more of them? Probably not...
What about patching it to another filter like a mogasmatron?
0:00 - 0:35 help me decipher what was said there. I can't understand nothing, too thick accent
Turn on the subs.