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- The #tracksetta system allows #flexitrack users to create smooth curves and at the same time maintain accurate gauge - preventing derailments and train collisions. #curvedtrack
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Laying flexi-track should be easy. With the right tools it is. Do you have them? In this video we illustrate some tracksetta template tools, explain what they do, show you how to use them and let you know about costs. What's not to like?
Roger, your style and delivery is excellent, thanks for posting.
Thank you kindly. I try to get my message across in a helpful way. Sometimes, like many of us who run channels, I can be a bit left field or controversial :)
@@StBlazeyModelWorld That’s ok, you are just keeping it real! You come across as knowledgeable and thorough without being pompous like some of the other channels.
Good, down to earth, practical advice. Thank you so much Roger.
You are very welcome, many thanks for taking the time to view and leave a comment.
First class tutorial for us novice modellers, I’ve just received my set and now a little more confident in laying my first flexi track. Many thanks Roger.
Thank you so much for your kind words. The Tracksetta system is expensive but, to my mind, invaluable. Especially if a derailment can cause damage to a £300 loco! Many thanks for viewing and taking the time to leave a comment
Very usefull, many thanks.
Glad it was helpful my friend :)
In North America Fast Tracks makes similar tools for many gauges and radii. The prices are much lower than the tracksettas. Their tools are laser cut wood and pieces can be snapped together. I even use pieces in 3 different radii to make transition curves. Gauges go from Z to O, and I believe they can make other gauges on a custom basis.
That is good to knew and thank you for that helpful advice for my viewers. I do use tracksetta i combinations to make transitional curves as I think I illustrated in the video...I made the video ages ago and I'm too old now to remember :) Many thanks for your viewing time and helpful advice and comments my friend
Thanks for the video. I've been thanking of 3d printing one.
I have never thought of that. Sadly my £D printing expert (Chris) has passed away. You can get the odd bargain on Ebay, that is how I built my set of 00/HO templates up. Thanks for viewing and taking the time to leave a comment
Just found this video and enjoyed watching it. The original tracksetta was manufactured in aluminium, and was designed to ensure consistant curvature of model railway tracks where joins occurred in flexible model railway track. We all know how har dit is to achieve a consistant curve where there is a join. Tracksettas are now available in many scales and have so many more uses. Creating transition curves, creating regular curved for helixes, even getting straight straights.
Thank you for your kind words. It is true what you say about the purpose of tracksetta. I made a point of talking about maintaining gauge as well because I have come across many instances of disturbed gauge with flexi-track and that creates many issues.
Just been looking at your online shop - very impressed. Buying soon my friend!
Very useful video as I’ll be doing this tomorrow thanks for sharing and I hope your keeping well 👍🏻🙂
Always welcome Mak. Thank you for taking the time to view and leave a comment. All the best with your own flexi-track laying
Brilliant video, Roger. Nicely explained and demonstrated!
Many thanks, as always, Anthony. As ever mate, thoughts with you and Joyce in these testing times
Great how too. Stay safe.
Thanks for taking the time to view and leave a comment Mike
Lovely, thanks.
You're welcome. I hope it was of some help. :)
Just subscribed after doing a search for this topic. I am about to lay some flex track and just ordered these.
Welcome aboard! Thanks for commenting. These really are essential in my view for laying flexi-track
thank, you for you're helpful video.
Glad it was helpful! Many thanks for taking the time to comment
Very informative video sir. Thanks for sharing
Most welcome. Too many people who do not realise that you can distort the gauge once you start to bend flexi-track or even when you force set-track
great video! we used to have a great train set!
Thank you and many thanks for taking the time to leave a comment
Hmmm... You placed great emphasis on using the Tracksettas to check the gauge of the track. While this may be an additional feature of them, my understanding is they were designed to produce accurate and consistent curvature at the required radius (or straightness) in Flexi track.
You may well be right about that but ensuring a constant gauge is vital. Many people do not realise that you can actually distort the gauge when you start bending flex track. I have even found instances of set-track that has distorted gauge, through rail expansion due to heat or other issues. Derailments are a major issue, not least when it comes to the cost of modern trains. They are of course, also highly frustrating. Anything that can reduce that is worth doing.
@@StBlazeyModelWorld OK. If you find a piece of track with distorted gauge, can you do anything to correct it, or just have to replace it?
Very good question, thank you for asking. In my experience it is very difficult to correct distorted gauge with the track in situ. I now recommend lifting the effected section and re-setting it on a work bench or kitchen work top (Only because they are usually flat). Remember though that it may mean slightly changing the trajectory or geometry of each piece of track either side of the effected piece. I place great emphasis on laying and testing track many times over with all types of rolling stock before adding any scenics. It is almost inevitable that as you lift a piece of track you will have repairs to the scenery to be carried out afterwards. I hope that helps Paul
@@StBlazeyModelWorld Thank you. How would you go about regauging out-of-gauge track?
I have only done it by ensuring that it is of cool or better still, cold temperature and then running a tracksetta through it. If it has become so distorted that it can only be rectified by cutting out chairs then you may as well discard it and replace it with new. In the end, the whole topic is a question of cost versus benefit. If you have a layout you want to run trains on it.
Moin (Hello) Roger,
nice explained Video in using the Tracksetta tools, I very appreciate it.
Well I used the german ,,Krause Klammern" in english ,,Krause Clamps" to fix the gauge of the Flex Track during forming the curves but it does not work as well as easy than with tracksetta tools.
I nice Idea to order it from my local peco dealer.
Well I am using Peco streamline Code 75 tracks mostly.
It allows me to use NEM Wheelsets as well as NMRA RP25 fine scale Wheelsets, too.
Greetings from good old germany,
Ingo R.
Hello Ingo, I am so very happy that you found my video helpful. Tracksetta is not cheap but if your train derails and smashes up a £300 loco what is the true cost. Derailments can of course be caused by many things but good track laying is essential.
Thanks a lot for the vido👏👏👏👏👏
You're welcome 😊I hope it was helpful
Ive got a full set im looking forward to using them
I cant stress enough the value in getting track right :)
Hello I'm a new subscriber to your channel.... looking forward 😎 Darrell
Welcome aboard! Good to have met you on Lee's channel
Only problem is the radii they come in. I started buying them years ago and then found they are not available in the radiis I want. For those with the skills, make your own in wood or metal at the radii you want! Other wise make curves you can push one side of your track against.
That is indeed a very valid point. What you almost end up with is flexi-track that has become setrack in some ways. Many thanks for viewing and taking the time to comment :)
good vid on the channel thanks lee
As always Lee, thanks for your support in our community. Much appreciated mate. Stay safe
You mentioned TT gauge Tracksetta, but I haven't been able to locate any. Do you know of any suppliers? I'm just putting together my plans for a new layout using the new Hornby stock, but with the Peco track.
Hello there, many thanks for watching the video and taking the time to leave a comment/question. This may be of help to you, not genuine tracksetta, but certainly a very good alternative:
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/275560981823?chn=ps&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&amdata=enc%3A1WWE4xw0HTSW0onLZKGDS7w79&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-134428-41853-0&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=275560981823&targetid=1647205088520&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9045286&poi=&campaignid=17206177401&mkgroupid=136851690655&rlsatarget=pla-1647205088520&abcId=9300866&merchantid=6995734&gclid=CjwKCAiArY2fBhB9EiwAWqHK6oK7G8u1RKGwyCLe8nIJTVGP9WN8UXGRcy8BakCrYlsnWoieXE-nlBoCeUMQAvD_BwE
I use sweep sticks made by Fast Tracks in Canada
Not a product I am familiar with but I'll check it out, thanks for commenting
Trouble is they are so expensive especially when you need more than one radius
Yes they are the cheapest bit of kit but on the other hand who wants to see their latest DCC £300 loco crash to the floor after derailing on some iffy track work. If you are a member of a club it is always worth asking around.
Hi Roger I take it that you have to wipe the spray off the top of the tracks to allow contact with the wheels on the track?
best Steve
Hi, yes, absolutely. Not clear in my video is that the track has undergone my stage 1 prep - spraying all over with sleeper grime (To remove some of the plastic look). You must clean all of the top of the rails and also on the under side where you are attaching dropper wires or power feeds. Yes.
@@StBlazeyModelWorld thanks for getting back to me. Do you just use a damp clothe to wipe the grime spray away from the rails? Cheers
@@stevio7777 NO. The sleeper grime is an enamel paint. I let it dry really well then I use the peco track rubber. I have compressor here so I use ito blow off powder residue from the track. On the under side where I am fitting droppers I use a needle file to get good clean metal before I apply my soldering iron and attach the dropper wires
@@StBlazeyModelWorld thanks. Those rubbers must be pretty abrasive then? 😊
If you do not have compressor and airline, use instead a vacuum cleaner and maybe damp cloth to remove the paint shavings cleaned from the rails. Again, later, you may be applying ballast. Always important to clean up after every stage and test a small train. Always checking bit by bit the track you have put down. If a problem is found later, it makes it easier to know where is the problem
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You're welcome :)
Great Video ! but just a small Question are they suitable for all brands of flextrack ? or only one brand , for example Peco ?
Hello my friend, many thanks for your interest in my video and question. I have only used them on Peco track. Having said that, as long as you use the right set for the right gauge of track, I believe they will be helpful. I have a 00 set and a N gauge set. I hope this helps you
What's the difference between tracksetta radius vs set track??
Forgive me if I have misunderstood your question. Set track is offered in various fixed radii. Tracksetta allows you to form curves with flexi-track. More importantly though (In my mind at least) is it aids in maintaining a constant gauge because gauge can be distorted on flexi-track.
Hi very new to creating a model railway and this maybe a stupid question, is there a tracksetta for Z gauge?
Hi Andrew, certainly not a stupid question. As far as I know, nobody offers this is Z gauge. That is a shame really because Z gauge is really great. Have you started buying any components yet for your model railway? If not, why not try N gauge?
@@StBlazeyModelWorld ah yes I have been get a z gauge side of things due to small place in our house 🏠
@@andrew150663 In the absence of tracksetta I would highly suggest testing each piece or few pieces of track laying as you go. This makes it easier to see a problem right off the bat rather than figure it out later. Also, test long cars, short cars, diferent locos, everything :)
Where can you buy this
Thank you for your question. Tracksetta is available on Ebay as well as many other internet retailers
Easement
Cheers
ANOTHER INCOMPLETE IDEA BY SOMEBODY WHO's NEVER OBVIOUSLY BUILT A FOUR TRACK MAINLINE !!!
Damn things are virtually useless as they are only made in a minimum number of measurements. None of which coincide with parallel track measurements, & only go up to a maximum 60 inch radius. I had a number made to my own specifications for track starting at 60 inch radius & going up to just over 12ft, to cater for a 4 track mainline. Which also helped with realistically sized mainline point building of 5ft to 8ft radius pointwork !!!
Thank you viewing and taking the time to leave a comment. However, I am not sure it was necessary to start with a paragraph in caps and to make assumptions about what I may or have may not have done in my scale model making career.
I would point out at the start of this video I reference the peco gauge for track spacing. In my mind this is a separate issue to the purpose of Tracksetta.
If you have Tracksetta unsuitable for you there is not a lot I can do about it. TO blame my video for that appears to me to be, at least, unfair.
Clearly you have an impressive CV in the hobby. It would be useful if you had videos on your channel in order that others maybe educated.
@@StBlazeyModelWorld Friend is modelling a four track section in part using (wait for it) Tracksettas! 😂
The inside curve (say the Up Slow) was laid using 60" Tracksettas. The three adjacent tracks were then simply laid at offsets to the Up Slow (sixfoot - tenfoot - sixfoot). 👍
As he said "What could be simpler". 😎
What is it with the shouting.
I use track setters and they are supurb.
We are model train modelers not brain surgeons so please don't try and blind us with science.
@@delphjunction1168 Well said! 👍
There is no science or anything outstanding or clever in this criticism.🤔
Tracksettas are a useful tool for model railways.🙂
_PS - Decades ago I used to design BR & LUL S&C and (even in retirement) retain my membership of the Permanent Way Institute._😄
Roger - excellent and informative video - fully agree Tracksettas can be a really useful tool. 🌞
I have many - but no where near that many! 😀
In support of your video, on scenic curves the use of several sizes of Tracksettas placed end-to-end can also be used to help create transition curves between straights and curves.
Agreed the straight Tracksetta is really useful tool and should never be overlooked - particularly useful setting the alignment off the straight legs of turnouts. In addition (and if you don't mind the tip) when introducing a reverse curve, stock will run much better if the distance between the reverse curves is at least the distance of the bogie centres of the longest vehicle used. However, it is much simple to just insert a (blue) straight Tracksetta in between the reverse curves!
As you rightly observe, not all modellers immediately grasp the importance of the wheel-rail interface (have covered this in BloodandCustard's modelling section). Then there is the question of expansion joints......
Lest it be of interest, the Peco trackettas can be modified (trimmed) to create sixfoot gauges that yield a realistic 46mm sixfoot instead of 50mm between track centres. However, this only works on straights and very large radius curves - else passing coaches (etc) will clip each other (end-throw on the inside radius comes into contact with centre-throw on the outside radius).
As an aside, all the scenic track on Ewhurst Green is glued down using Railmatch sleeper grime - isn't it wonderful paint! - Colin 🐱
Many thanks Colin for leaving a helpful tip in your reply. Sharing our knowledge is the best way forward. I usually spray all my track with sleeper grime outside (For ventilation) as a starting point for weathering it so it looks less shiny. Just don't forget to clean the rail tops up a bit after.
@@StBlazeyModelWorld Roger, no point on being on RUclips if one cannot share and assist others. 🌞
Interesting that you spray your track.
I lay mine and hold it in place with drawing pins before giving the whole a liberal coat with acrylic sleeper grime.
The paint drives in a few hours holding the track firmly in place.
Drawing pins removed and wire droppers through the baseboard soldered into place.
A second coat is used to touch up the little bits that got missed (usually on the far side of the running rail's web) and where the drawing pins had been.
Ballasting then starts in the four-foot cribs (only). Once dry the cribs and sleeper ends outside the running rails are then ballasted.
I hope this is of interest to your readers - Colin.