Blackthorn was trying to serve a rabbit stew at the dinner. They all looked sick and disgusted because they're all pretty much vegetarian, with the exception of raw fish. In the book, the preparing and eating of "meat" is nauseating, akin to a kind of cannibalism, something the "barbarians" were supposedly known for. By the end of the book, Blackthorn has become accustomed to and enjoys their diet, with the exception that he has his fish cooked. The rock Blackthorn picked up after the earthquake was the same one Uejiro the gardener was working so hard to position earlier. In the book, he named this rock "Uejiro-Sama" (Lord Uejiro) after the gardener who lost his life because of the pheasant.
a few notes about the episode. - samurai couldnt be blamed for their actions when drunk. It was believed that a bad spirit posesed them when drunk so other people just ignored their behaiviour. On the other hand give yourself to the drink repeteadly was a sign of weak will so that was dishonorable. But losing yourself in the bottle very ocasionally was not only permited but understanded given the strict lives they lived. Some of this remains nowadays, hence the stereotypical image of the salaryman geting wasted with the bowtie wraped around the head in a post-work bar meeting. Next day unless something very very grave occurs his coworkers just forgot about his behaviour. - when buntaro kneels befor e blackthorne to say sorry he puts his katana in front of him with the handle oriented to the left. thats intentional and a sign of respect. Katanas are wielded with the right hand. you cannot unsheath fast with the handle of the sword to your left in front of you. -uejiiro definitely died because the pheasant. he sacrificed himself for the honour of the house. whomever touches that pheasant dies. thats law. the book gives a little more context about this situation. It states that a discreet complaint about the stench is given to fujiko. Ppl in the village are worried that the rotting carcass could become a health problem. Thus fujiko reunites with the elder because no one knows how to act. they think about bringing an eta (lower caste of japan society, the ones that touched dead things. the impures) to pick the pheasant but ultimately they decided that the matter must be handled within the house. thats the honorable thing to do. in the book theres 2 volunteers, uejiro and a youngster that woorks in the kitchen. uejiro convinces everyone that it must be him cause hes old, tired and sick. After the deed they actually dont know what to do with him so in the end they go to toranaga. uejiro is executed with "respect". His head is cut with a katana, a "good" aand honorable death. toranaga even lends his personal weapon to that given its extremely sharp and it would be less painful to the executed. In the series muragi blames uejiro for being the spy because its just convenient and believable
Yes, very complex, and why this is such a great series. You have such insightful comments! The last scene - I think Lady Ochiba, the taikos widow, shows that she has some power. Another layer of intrigue. Look forward to seeing how this plays out.
I love a show with many layers and this one definitely has MANY. There are a lot of clues throughout the series that we will all miss but on rewatch you catch new things, it is great!
I cried at that scene too, John cares so much and has such a good heart, that got me very emotional. And when he picked up the rock to fix the garden, that got me even harder 😭
omg i didn’t even realize that uejiro might have died for that bigger reason 😮 they focused on toranaga’s spy looking at the pheasant for a bit and might have gotten the idea…that’s crazy… one of the things i love about the show is how open it is for interpretation which could all be valid because of the cultural ambiguity of japan i.e. the customs and rituals vs. what’s actually going on inside.
They are super sneaky in this show lol. While I edited episode 4 I noticed when Toranaga's son had his men fire on Jozen, that Yabushige looked upset but Omi started smiling. I didn't see it when I first watched it.
@@ImonSnow that scene was wild lol, if yabushige really wanted to stop the son, he could’ve done more. oscar winning performance 😂 they’ve set that up for a few episodes, jozen has been mocking the son for never seeing battle and everyone took advantage of it.
Aged pheasant does taste better (up to 10 days matured in its own blood, unplucked). In french we even use the word pheasant when we talk about aged (matured) meat, i.e: Viande Faisandé (maturée)
Yes, pheasant and other wild game can be left out to hang. 50-55 degrees for 3-7 days. Done right they're supposedly very good. I wouldn't know. I'm not that brave. John's rabbit stew was probably perfectly fine. Even if he did use saki instead of sherry. Just not as pretty or delicate smelling as Japanese foods. This story is so incredible.
Don’t feel bad if you struggle understanding the Japanese in this show: They are speaking a very old-fashioned version of the language, to make the show more authentic. Kind of like their equivalent of Shakespearian English. Buntaro is not keeping Mariko alive to punish her though: He is hopelessly in love with her, she is his only weakness. And he is miserable because she has never warmed up to him.
@@JohnWilliams-ud2os I obviously don't condone violence either. I was describing his state of mind, not excusing his behaviour. I think very few people would excuse that.
Japan has earthquakes, tsunamis and eruptions of volcanos, which are rare though, and several typhoons and heavy rains a year for certain. Typhoons don't affect that much in this day and age, but they used to cause floods and landslides and blow away houses and farmland each time they hit.
This is, by far, my most favorite episode to date. I have some minor creative differences but I ain't getting paid big money to adapt the source lol. 1) It sounds like you might find the evolution of language interesting as well. It being easier on the tongue is the main reason our language evolved into what it is. 2) You're right in that we all generally view the world through our own cultural lens. It's because we're constantly immersed in them, our cultural idiosyncrasies seem normal. This episode draws a stark contrast between the two cultures. More importantly it judges neither but instead allows the audience to see the reasons for those idiosyncrasies. 3) I kinda wonder how much impact religion had on that difference. The Judiac faiths with a permanent afterlife would invariably value life over honor. Likewise Eastern religions involving reincarnation and ancestors worship would value honor over life. Lastly, I think you might enjoy The 3 Body Problem on Netflix. Would enjoy seeing a reaction. Lol what can I say, I enjoy the way your mind works lol.
Buntaro isn't purposefully punishing Mariko. He actually loves her deeply, which is why he wants her to stay alive. She hates him for not allowing her to commit seppuku, which is why she's so cold towards him. Although the dishonor of what her family name brings to him doesn't help either. Talk about a dysfunctional family.
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8:20 It's actually the other way around, but that's information from the next episode. So Idk if you'll consider that a "spoiler", even tho you're caught up to where the series currently is (soon to be episode 9). But in the "Willow world" flashback, we see that MARIKO is the one that looks down on Buntaro. She felt that the match wasn't worthy of her/her station -- this marriage was arranged before her father commits the treason -- technically, she was "above" Hiromatsu & his family. Buntaro being his son. After her father kills the ruler (Ochiba's father), SHE is "lesser" in the eyes of society. So all of a sudden it's a case of "Well, ain't it funny how fortune's change & tables turn?!" I have to imagine for Buntaro. Mariko didn't understand why her father married her to Buntaro, but as with all the plans within plans, it was probably the fact that Buntaro is a great warrior. He could die knowing that Mariko would be protected if someone did try to come after her, even tho her marriage would've protected her already. But as we've seen assassins get used. So extra precaution on her father & Toranaga's part. In any case, there's a reason for the scorn & resentment coming from Buntaro. I imagine unrequited love is a hell of a drug. I don't co-sign the domestic V of anyone for any reason, yet this was & is clearly a VERY toxic marriage from BOTH sides. & I think we too often overlook that MEN have a "sixth sense/intuition" too & Buntaro could sense that more than translating was going on between John & Mariko...& well, he's not wrong.
Blackthorne just cooked rabbit stew, I'm sure it was good, all jokes about british cooking notwithstsnding. Problem is that the Japanese, at this point, were pescatarian - vegetables and fish - and even touching dead bodies, bever mind eating them, was considered utterly revolting. Aketchi Jinsai, Mariko's father, is based on Aketchi Mitsuhide, and Kuroda, the former ruler, based on Oda Nobunaga. Well worth looking up.
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You have some of the most insightful and sensitive reactions, it’s a pleasure to watch, thank you
Thank you for watching!
Blackthorn was trying to serve a rabbit stew at the dinner. They all looked sick and disgusted because they're all pretty much vegetarian, with the exception of raw fish. In the book, the preparing and eating of "meat" is nauseating, akin to a kind of cannibalism, something the "barbarians" were supposedly known for. By the end of the book, Blackthorn has become accustomed to and enjoys their diet, with the exception that he has his fish cooked.
The rock Blackthorn picked up after the earthquake was the same one Uejiro the gardener was working so hard to position earlier. In the book, he named this rock "Uejiro-Sama" (Lord Uejiro) after the gardener who lost his life because of the pheasant.
a few notes about the episode.
- samurai couldnt be blamed for their actions when drunk. It was believed that a bad spirit posesed them when drunk so other people just ignored their behaiviour. On the other hand give yourself to the drink repeteadly was a sign of weak will so that was dishonorable. But losing yourself in the bottle very ocasionally was not only permited but understanded given the strict lives they lived. Some of this remains nowadays, hence the stereotypical image of the salaryman geting wasted with the bowtie wraped around the head in a post-work bar meeting. Next day unless something very very grave occurs his coworkers just forgot about his behaviour.
- when buntaro kneels befor e blackthorne to say sorry he puts his katana in front of him with the handle oriented to the left. thats intentional and a sign of respect. Katanas are wielded with the right hand. you cannot unsheath fast with the handle of the sword to your left in front of you.
-uejiiro definitely died because the pheasant. he sacrificed himself for the honour of the house. whomever touches that pheasant dies. thats law. the book gives a little more context about this situation. It states that a discreet complaint about the stench is given to fujiko. Ppl in the village are worried that the rotting carcass could become a health problem. Thus fujiko reunites with the elder because no one knows how to act. they think about bringing an eta (lower caste of japan society, the ones that touched dead things. the impures) to pick the pheasant but ultimately they decided that the matter must be handled within the house. thats the honorable thing to do. in the book theres 2 volunteers, uejiro and a youngster that woorks in the kitchen. uejiro convinces everyone that it must be him cause hes old, tired and sick. After the deed they actually dont know what to do with him so in the end they go to toranaga. uejiro is executed with "respect". His head is cut with a katana, a "good" aand honorable death. toranaga even lends his personal weapon to that given its extremely sharp and it would be less painful to the executed.
In the series muragi blames uejiro for being the spy because its just convenient and believable
Always appreciate and enjoy your intelligent perspective on this show, and your obvious and relatable enthusiasm! Great job!
Thanks for watching along with me!
"The seat would stink of Christian." That's probably my favorite line in the entire episode. Ishido can see's what he's trying to do immediately
Imon: Who cares what I think
Me: Umm...me? I care
I love the way you articulate your thoughts. I wish everybody who watch th3 show could watch your reaction.
Yes, very complex, and why this is such a great series. You have such insightful comments! The last scene - I think Lady Ochiba, the taikos widow, shows that she has some power. Another layer of intrigue. Look forward to seeing how this plays out.
I love a show with many layers and this one definitely has MANY. There are a lot of clues throughout the series that we will all miss but on rewatch you catch new things, it is great!
I cried at that scene too, John cares so much and has such a good heart, that got me very emotional. And when he picked up the rock to fix the garden, that got me even harder 😭
Another amazing reaction Imon and your hair is so beautiful ❤❤😁😁.
Thank you
@@ImonSnow Your welcome ❤❤❤❤.
omg i didn’t even realize that uejiro might have died for that bigger reason 😮 they focused on toranaga’s spy looking at the pheasant for a bit and might have gotten the idea…that’s crazy… one of the things i love about the show is how open it is for interpretation which could all be valid because of the cultural ambiguity of japan i.e. the customs and rituals vs. what’s actually going on inside.
They are super sneaky in this show lol. While I edited episode 4 I noticed when Toranaga's son had his men fire on Jozen, that Yabushige looked upset but Omi started smiling. I didn't see it when I first watched it.
@@ImonSnow that scene was wild lol, if yabushige really wanted to stop the son, he could’ve done more. oscar winning performance 😂 they’ve set that up for a few episodes, jozen has been mocking the son for never seeing battle and everyone took advantage of it.
mariko (sees buntaro lives): oh schnap
toranaga (interrupted by blackthorne thinking he can just demand his ship back): i can't even with you two
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Lol yep !
This episode was good love the video imon Nation stay motivated dream big 1 mill on the way
I've enjoyed watching your reactions. Oh - and your hair is amazing.
A reactor who says "shogoon" ! Even once. It's still cool to hear.
love this show!!
Aged pheasant does taste better (up to 10 days matured in its own blood, unplucked). In french we even use the word pheasant when we talk about aged (matured) meat, i.e: Viande Faisandé (maturée)
my mom corrected my mispronunciation of Shogun in elementary school. All my classmates told me that was wrong, and my mom is Japanese!
Your mom is Japanese? Wow, great story lil bro but who asked lmao 🤣
Yes, pheasant and other wild game can be left out to hang. 50-55 degrees for 3-7 days. Done right they're supposedly very good. I wouldn't know. I'm not that brave. John's rabbit stew was probably perfectly fine. Even if he did use saki instead of sherry. Just not as pretty or delicate smelling as Japanese foods.
This story is so incredible.
They were mostly pescatarian! There were huge taboos against touching dead bodies, never mind eating them.
Just remember ... Show-good 💛
Yey! Here we go again!
Don’t feel bad if you struggle understanding the Japanese in this show: They are speaking a very old-fashioned version of the language, to make the show more authentic. Kind of like their equivalent of Shakespearian English. Buntaro is not keeping Mariko alive to punish her though: He is hopelessly in love with her, she is his only weakness. And he is miserable because she has never warmed up to him.
yeah i strongly disagree you dont beat someone you are in love with guy FOH
@@JohnWilliams-ud2os I obviously don't condone violence either. I was describing his state of mind, not excusing his behaviour. I think very few people would excuse that.
Japan has earthquakes, tsunamis and eruptions of volcanos, which are rare though, and several typhoons and heavy rains a year for certain. Typhoons don't affect that much in this day and age, but they used to cause floods and landslides and blow away houses and farmland each time they hit.
Keep up the cool reactions, I remember your reactions with Breaking Bad and Saul Goodman.
This is, by far, my most favorite episode to date. I have some minor creative differences but I ain't getting paid big money to adapt the source lol.
1) It sounds like you might find the evolution of language interesting as well. It being easier on the tongue is the main reason our language evolved into what it is.
2) You're right in that we all generally view the world through our own cultural lens. It's because we're constantly immersed in them, our cultural idiosyncrasies seem normal. This episode draws a stark contrast between the two cultures. More importantly it judges neither but instead allows the audience to see the reasons for those idiosyncrasies.
3) I kinda wonder how much impact religion had on that difference. The Judiac faiths with a permanent afterlife would invariably value life over honor. Likewise Eastern religions involving reincarnation and ancestors worship would value honor over life.
Lastly, I think you might enjoy The 3 Body Problem on Netflix. Would enjoy seeing a reaction. Lol what can I say, I enjoy the way your mind works lol.
I just looked up The 3 Body Problem and it looks really good...!
Buntaro isn't purposefully punishing Mariko. He actually loves her deeply, which is why he wants her to stay alive. She hates him for not allowing her to commit seppuku, which is why she's so cold towards him. Although the dishonor of what her family name brings to him doesn't help either. Talk about a dysfunctional family.
He beats her, stop saying woman beaters love their wife
Does anyone know if FX will have another season of Shogun?
the origanal book have more ... sooo hopefully
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Yo im new to the channel, but i liked your content. Would you ever play story games on your channel??
I have a recommendation/request of persona 5 royal
I don't play video games on the channel, however it could be something I can do in the future. We shall see
Sho-gun is right,
8:20 It's actually the other way around, but that's information from the next episode. So Idk if you'll consider that a "spoiler", even tho you're caught up to where the series currently is (soon to be episode 9).
But in the "Willow world" flashback, we see that MARIKO is the one that looks down on Buntaro. She felt that the match wasn't worthy of her/her station -- this marriage was arranged before her father commits the treason -- technically, she was "above" Hiromatsu & his family. Buntaro being his son.
After her father kills the ruler (Ochiba's father), SHE is "lesser" in the eyes of society. So all of a sudden it's a case of "Well, ain't it funny how fortune's change & tables turn?!" I have to imagine for Buntaro.
Mariko didn't understand why her father married her to Buntaro, but as with all the plans within plans, it was probably the fact that Buntaro is a great warrior. He could die knowing that Mariko would be protected if someone did try to come after her, even tho her marriage would've protected her already. But as we've seen assassins get used. So extra precaution on her father & Toranaga's part.
In any case, there's a reason for the scorn & resentment coming from Buntaro. I imagine unrequited love is a hell of a drug.
I don't co-sign the domestic V of anyone for any reason, yet this was & is clearly a VERY toxic marriage from BOTH sides.
& I think we too often overlook that MEN have a "sixth sense/intuition" too & Buntaro could sense that more than translating was going on between John & Mariko...& well, he's not wrong.
Blackthorne just cooked rabbit stew, I'm sure it was good, all jokes about british cooking notwithstsnding. Problem is that the Japanese, at this point, were pescatarian - vegetables and fish - and even touching dead bodies, bever mind eating them, was considered utterly revolting.
Aketchi Jinsai, Mariko's father, is based on Aketchi Mitsuhide, and Kuroda, the former ruler, based on Oda Nobunaga. Well worth looking up.
Cry spice?
haha
It’s not that thoughtful with the gardener s death. The spy just used the circumstances to avoid another man s life. Nobody knew he’s the spy.