THE REVERB G2 IS OFFICIALLY DEAD! These Are The Best VR Headsets To Upgrade To!

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024

Комментарии • 106

  • @mixedrealityTV
    @mixedrealityTV  День назад +1

    Pimax Crystal Light: pimax.com/pages/crystal-light?ref=mrtv (Affiliate)
    Bigscreen Beyond: (Code MRTV5 for 5% Discount): bit.ly/3YtEm9x (Affiliate)
    Which VR headset will you upgrade to?

    • @vitodiomede79
      @vitodiomede79 День назад

      Pimax crystal light without local dimming that does not exsist and probably will never arrive

    • @dvbuljan
      @dvbuljan 21 час назад +1

      What about the Sony PS VR2 with PC dongle?

    • @diegoperez3278
      @diegoperez3278 20 часов назад

      none of the ones you recommend

    • @rinkumultani6515
      @rinkumultani6515 18 часов назад

      its just a nit pick and i to can find some flaws with every single headset out there but the worst part with all vr headset is there lcd diplays cos they cant project black and is the worse thing for me and they are way to overpriced plus u need high end pc to even get the most out of those headsets. and its all about getting use to it and soon u forget most of the negatives but i cant deal with grey dark screens in quest like lcd base headsets

  • @stephen8132
    @stephen8132 22 часа назад +26

    This feels wrong. Why can't Microsoft just keep legacy drivers/software in Windows for people to continue using their vr headsets that are expensive, like reverb g2.
    Even meta allows you to still run rift headsets via their pc meta software.

    • @PixelShade
      @PixelShade 6 часов назад +5

      I mean, the deprecation of WMR almost feels illegal tbh. Especially since the Reverb G2v2 was sold until 2022. I understand that it is hard to support the WMR Portal since that part of the software is highly integrated with OS features. HOWEVER, how difficult would it be to make some adjustments to the software? Like removing the "portal" altogether while keeping the 2D software as a downloadable "driver" and "settings tool" (with core features like "room boundaries" and "floor adjustment"). That would basically solve Microsoft's VR vision of "giving up without even trying" 😜while at the same time offer some kind of legacy support for WMR. The difference would be that there's no OS-level integration with WMR, and you would instead start VR software from the desktop, and of course keeping the option of making the software auto-boot into SteamVR.

  • @vrenthusiast71
    @vrenthusiast71 День назад +22

    This is why All PC headsets need native Steam VR drivers. At least as an option. These proprietary middleman software and/or digital stores have been trouble from day one. No one asked for them and no one wants them. Tech is great but many people and/or companies are not. Things like this are just going to happen more and more. This is why we can't have nice things.

    • @kurousagi1339
      @kurousagi1339 15 часов назад

      But what do I do if Steam disappears? Where will I get my Steam VR drivers then? 😔

    • @vrenthusiast71
      @vrenthusiast71 13 часов назад

      @@kurousagi1339 Very true! I even paused when trying it. However, I settled on Steam VR because it is the closest platform we have that could be called standard and welcomes all HMDs. Valve seems to truly want VR to succeed and grow. The others want to play King Of The Hill. Viewing all players in their space as Threats instead of Allies. Looking down at their costumers as nothing more than peasants with resources to be extracted. Too Dramatic? Maybe. True? Absolutely!

    • @abeidiot
      @abeidiot 3 часа назад

      *native openxr drivers.
      steamvr has also moved on to openxr

  • @joshhardin666
    @joshhardin666 День назад +20

    I have heard that there are projects dedicated to using windows mixed reality devices like the reverb g2 WITHOUT windows mixed reality so you can continue to use these devices after windows mixed reality is discontinued, but I don't know enough about them yet to point anyone in any particular direction - I would love it if MRTV could do a video on one or more of these projects if they can determine that they work well. thanks!

    • @td325ic
      @td325ic 16 часов назад +4

      simple solution, don't upgrade to windows 11 or dual boot

    • @joshhardin666
      @joshhardin666 6 часов назад

      @@td325ic my system can't run windows 10 (at least not well) due to asymetric cpu scheduling (and I wouldn't want to run an old version of windows anyway, that's kind of dumb)) and windows will automatically upgrade to the latest version of itself moving forward. there must be a way to use the wmr hardware without wmr.

  • @xalener
    @xalener 21 час назад +15

    Microsoft keeps making fucking horrible decisions lmao

  • @paulmann8675
    @paulmann8675 22 часа назад +26

    The g2 is not dead at all 🤷‍♂️ its working perfectly fine for me in windows 10 and will continue to till at least 2026
    Why are RUclipsrs keep on trying to tell us to get the next best headset they all have flaws and are over priced
    Not everyone gets a free shiny vr headset when it comes out to try from the manufacturer
    we have to pay for them and at them prices no thank you
    My g2 has never been so sharp with my tweaking and my setup and I’m sure a lot of other people are in the same boat

    • @endizza
      @endizza 21 час назад +8

      Did you not read the video title? Its for windows 11 users not for windows 10 users.

    • @Davids6994
      @Davids6994 17 часов назад +1

      *My G2 has never been so sharp in the miniscule central lens sweetspot

    • @mixedrealityTV
      @mixedrealityTV  14 часов назад +4

      Hi Paulman, like I said in the video, for Windows 11 latest update it is dead. And as I said in the video (did you actually watch it) you can get around it by using Windows 10! Thanks for watching and engaging with my content! :)

    • @PilotGigi
      @PilotGigi 11 часов назад

      Yep guys, but how many ppl ante not going to uprgrade windows??
      Such a horrible decision in my opinion, as we paid the thing 600€ at that time

  • @eightsprites
    @eightsprites День назад +6

    Depricating hardware is beyond stupid.
    I hate Microsoft/HP for depricated my printer.
    I now got to hate M$ for doing it once again!
    F win11, Im not upgrading.

  • @nonleggolerisposte5921
    @nonleggolerisposte5921 20 часов назад +8

    Windows 11 really suck.

  • @PixelShade
    @PixelShade День назад +11

    I have done the only reasonable thing as a Reverb G2 owner, I ditched Windows for Manjaro (Linux), due to now having zero trust in Microsoft. I installed Windows 10 on a separate disk to be only used for VR and the HP Reverb G2. I'm riding this storm out until there's a reasonable Linux-compatible headset. My hope lies in Valve's upcoming mythical headset; "Deckard".

  • @Jopekos
    @Jopekos День назад +3

    It really sucks that Microsoft's Windows Mixed Reality platform is coming to an end. It would be a great move if Microsoft made the project open source. This would allow the developer community to continue to evolve and improve the platform, keeping it alive.

  • @damned.major.mayhem
    @damned.major.mayhem День назад +6

    Win11 is crap, Even from a MSP IT pro perspective it's an absolute POS! Just Try disabling back ground apps in 11 and compare to 10. Open devices and printers from the control panel.
    11 is crap stick with 10 or consider linux or waiting for win 12.

  • @KoRNeRd
    @KoRNeRd 13 часов назад +2

    Someone should be sued over this.
    Imagine you bought a car and the manufacturer forces you to update, but the update shuts off your steering.

  • @qatsi4897
    @qatsi4897 День назад +3

    I remember about a year ago you were in Korea or Japan and you tried a headset still in development. You said it was the best you had ever seen till that time, also your cameraman was super enthousiastic about it. The company ceo however, said it wouldn't probably go for sale in Europe. Is there any news on that one, or did I miss that? Thanks Seb!

    • @mixedrealityTV
      @mixedrealityTV  14 часов назад +2

      Oh stay tuned to the channel! There might be news about this one soon!

  • @richardnoall3758
    @richardnoall3758 День назад +10

    I think PSVR2 should be included here. Ok, it does not have the display quality of the PCL or other more expensive headsets, but it has OLED, larger field of view and the support of Sony (who just realised an update for those doubters). And it was on sale for £350 not so long ago.

    • @Jopekos
      @Jopekos День назад

      PSVR2 has a serious problem with the lenses, I saw several users talking about how bad they are.

    • @richardnoall3758
      @richardnoall3758 День назад +1

      @@Jopekos In as far as they are fresnel and not as clear as the others, but the others are much more expensive. If you are looking for something to replace the G2, it's definitely in the running.

    • @TheLostBrain
      @TheLostBrain 22 часа назад +8

      @@Jopekos I own the PSVR2 and the reverb g2 and the array of oculus headsets. The PSVR2 is my fav in terms of image quality. I also see the mura that people speak of but to me the oled darks and color vibrancy more than make up for it. The mura doesn’t bother me at all. Just my personal experience though.

    • @richardnoall3758
      @richardnoall3758 21 час назад +3

      @@TheLostBrain I would agree, there are trade-offs on every headset, the PSVR2 more than competes given it's advantages.

    • @GoldSrc_
      @GoldSrc_ 20 часов назад +1

      "the support of Sony" lol.
      Dude, Sony still hasn't provided the SDK to developers to enable all the missing features of the headset.

  • @mangapuff2299
    @mangapuff2299 22 часа назад +2

    I watched your review on Reverb G2 and ordered it right after. It served me well these years. Recently I purchased Quest 3 512gb because its big price drop, and there is no going back to Reverb G2 because the lens is just so good! No more hunting for the small clear spot in the middle when putting on the headset. Also Virtual Desktop with VDXR performance jumps up so much with FS 2020 I no longer worry about frame rate in the games.

    • @brunogregorio1659
      @brunogregorio1659 22 часа назад +1

      What about the diference between de displayport and de wireless connection?

  • @mikeritchie9081
    @mikeritchie9081 День назад +6

    I certainly wont be upgrading to Windows 11! I love my G2 combined with a bit of essential Fholger CAS sharpening. I've managed to backup (and reinstall) microsoft openxr with uwpbackup. Tried backing up the mixed reality UWP apps, with the intention of loading them into windows 11, but couldn't get it to work. Hopefully someone out there with better knowledge of UWP can get it working.

    • @jlepage36
      @jlepage36 День назад +1

      Eventually Windows 10 won't be supported and it will be the wild west of viruses.

    • @mikeritchie9081
      @mikeritchie9081 День назад +3

      @@jlepage36 Yes, but that will be quite some time away. I would have replaced my G2 by then. Looking at the crystal light, but I'm still worried about the weight of it compared to the G2, as I play skyrim VR, etc.

  • @GUN69_
    @GUN69_ 23 часа назад +2

    such a shame. Both options (crystal light and BSB) are not convincing to me. It feels like BSB needs the V2 of its headset to be considered. Just the fact that scanning the face only happens via iphone app says it all. But one thing which we need to give a credit to BSB is that it pushes a significant milestone when it comes to size and weight. Pimax in contrary feels super bulky and cheap. The visuals might be the best but it doesn't seem like a significant change to what competition offers. So I would rather downgrade to Windows 10 and go through all the workarounds than upgrade to pimax crystal light. Quest is Facebook, so no thank you 😅

  • @terrylaven
    @terrylaven День назад +2

    I had both the original Reverb and the Reverb G2 for a long time. Loved the lightness and comfort of the G2 vs the Quest 2. Currently using the Quest 3 but upgrading to the Pimax Crystal Light not out of the question. Bigscreen Beyond is more of a problem due to higher cost plus the need to purchase base stations and controllers. I also consider the HTC Vive Focus Vision as a possible upgrade path; anxious to see some reviews of that unit.
    Very unhappy with Microsoft.

  • @joerihuffmeijer3247
    @joerihuffmeijer3247 23 часа назад +3

    This is sad news indeed, let me put on my sad face while I explain to my wife why I absolutely need a crystal light right now😅

  • @techformsmaster930
    @techformsmaster930 5 часов назад +2

    PSVR 2 with the PC adapter is also a viable alternative, it's the one I'm getting.

    • @slammerf16
      @slammerf16 Час назад +1

      I did exactly that, I'm happy with my choice! My user case is seated, wired simulation and I see no need to go wireless.

  • @VRFlightSimGuy
    @VRFlightSimGuy 11 часов назад +1

    Great video. RIP G2 😢

  • @rinkumultani6515
    @rinkumultani6515 День назад +13

    psvr 2 is the only right answer

    • @mixedrealityTV
      @mixedrealityTV  День назад +1

      If you are coming from G2 it might look a bit soft, that is why i did not include it. It is a great option as well though.

    • @42Hoggy
      @42Hoggy День назад

      ​@@mixedrealityTV I agree I tried the PSVR2 I found the picture was not good enough for Sim racing everything in the distance is blurry. I have ordered the crystal light really looking forward it it.

    • @Racingfan101
      @Racingfan101 День назад +5

      PSVR2 at 150% super sampling is sharp in simracing (4200x4200). Of course you miss clarity of higher res headsets like my bsb, but PSVR2 is more comfortable to wear, is light, doesnt get hot and screen doesnt give off heat to the eyes (ehm bsb).

    • @Racingfan101
      @Racingfan101 День назад

      Controllers also are good except for battery and easy to pick up and play.

    • @42Hoggy
      @42Hoggy День назад

      @@Racingfan101 Nothing I could do would make it as clear as the Reverb G2, for me the comfort of the PSVR2 was the worst could be my head shape but it would dig into my forehead when the sweet spot was in the right place. I did love the colours everything up close looked great but distance was a mess too much screen door

  • @tommagiatzis5862
    @tommagiatzis5862 22 часа назад +2

    Sony just sold another PSVR2.

  • @Z0ku
    @Z0ku Час назад

    As a G2 owner since launch I've pre-ordered the Pimax Crystal Super OLED version. And postponing Win11 updates as far as I can since I'm using WIn11 Pro.

  • @markus301
    @markus301 7 часов назад +1

    Does the "Fixed Foveated Rendering" from the pimax crystal light works like an eye tracking? And between both what is better?

  • @BurstingVeins1
    @BurstingVeins1 4 часа назад

    It's funny that in the announcement killing the Hololens 2, Microsoft also said they would continue to support Mixed reality and 3rd-parties. I wish someone responded to them directly that that was an outright false statement since they had already announced they were killing 3rd-party support with this update.

  • @brunogregorio1659
    @brunogregorio1659 21 час назад +2

    What about the PSVR2? The Big FOV and the Price dont worthy?

    • @mixedrealityTV
      @mixedrealityTV  14 часов назад

      PSVR2 is great but not sharper than G2. That's why I did not list it.

  • @ADAMAT1C
    @ADAMAT1C День назад +2

    It was a great headset, very comfortable, great speakers, controllers OK - better if you had the Samsung controllers like me.
    As soon as I heard it would lose support I sold mine and got a Quest 3 which I'm very happy with even for PCVR using virtual desktop.
    RIP Windows Mixed Reality, you were janky AF and your controllers were often not well supported, but you were a cheap and usable way to get into VR!

  • @charliewilson85
    @charliewilson85 День назад +1

    Reverb was the king over the last 4 years. The new King for the next 3 years is the Crystal Light or until retina resolution is available.

    • @samsassoli2837
      @samsassoli2837 День назад +1

      the comfort of the G2 is great too, it's sooo light though

    • @BlackGoku14
      @BlackGoku14 10 часов назад

      No, the only king is the Quest 3, unless you only play seated games.

  • @ht6501
    @ht6501 День назад +1

    Hi Seb. When's the pimax crystal super coming out? 😊

  • @Snaphoo
    @Snaphoo 16 часов назад +1

    Straight up crazy. They’re not that old

  • @lonewolfsky4816
    @lonewolfsky4816 19 часов назад

    I remember I pre ordered the G2 and the Varjo Aero because of you lol. Now my favorite headset is the PICO4. Can't wait for the PICO5

  • @KoRNeRd
    @KoRNeRd 13 часов назад

    There is an initiative to stop games from dying, especially in server support.
    When support is dropped software should be opensourced as a matter of law!!!

  • @1Genisis1
    @1Genisis1 16 часов назад

    It's crazy, all they needed to do is make an oled and aspheric lense version and it would be the perfect pc vr headset, why has this thing been killed of? I will not stop using mine till we have a viable mid range pc vr display port headset, it's madness we still don't have one, it's all high end only right now

  • @locked01
    @locked01 10 часов назад

    Still rocking a Pimax 5k Super. For.what I do, it is more than enough.

  • @ezekielgskeen8607
    @ezekielgskeen8607 23 часа назад

    great headup info video Sir! as always! 👍👍

  • @SpringChickensOnlyMan
    @SpringChickensOnlyMan 15 часов назад

    I think this would be a good time to bring up the HTC Vive Focus Vision. People are disappointed but this perhaps could be a fantastic replacement from the hp reverb g2 due to the DisplayPort and it can also be wireless pcvr. It’d be nice to be able to pull of all nighters and wireless mobile pcvr with just one headset in my opinion

  • @toututu2993
    @toututu2993 14 часов назад

    Bigscreen Beyond headset reminded me of buying a gaming console but it doesn't come with a controller nor required pluggings to play it. All sold separately in different store on top of requirement in owning a special phone to scan your hands in order to buy its controller 🤦‍♂️

  • @marekdyjor
    @marekdyjor 5 часов назад +1

    Win 11 is some kind of joke. I have this shit on my office laptop I hate it.

  • @guvnormclean
    @guvnormclean 8 часов назад

    quite clear for anyone who invested in this headset to never support Windows products again. I bought the G2 Reverb on the reveiws by MRTV. if i knew it would be for only 5 years and then its literally dead i would never have invested. To date G2 reverb after its rocky V1 cable start is my most comfortable VR Headset. i have a Pico 4 with all the mods to make it nice but still G2 reverb is better for me even with Frenel lenses.

  • @stefanobean4039
    @stefanobean4039 22 часа назад

    Sebastian, thank you as always for your videos, but I need your review and comparison of the Somnium VR1 with the Crystal. Why don't you talk about it? Why don't you have it? I need your last word before I order it!

    • @mixedrealityTV
      @mixedrealityTV  14 часов назад

      Because unfortunately Somnium had not sent it to me for review. They are still working on delivering the first unit to their customers.

  • @thoreberlin
    @thoreberlin 18 часов назад

    The least Microsoft can do is realease a WMR to OpenXR translation layer without the WMR environment. Microsoft is currently selling ditching Windows. I really hope Deckard becomes amazing.

  • @FSK1138
    @FSK1138 19 часов назад

    upgrading from the reverb g2 v2 😎
    used quest 3 128g as low as $450
    the quest 3s or PlayStation vr are $400
    used quest 2 are flooding the market low af $150

  • @RiftTraveller
    @RiftTraveller 18 часов назад

    Mine still works great for gaming on Windows 10, but it is having some stuttering issues in VR preview in Unreal Engine 5.3 and 5.4.

  • @slammerf16
    @slammerf16 Час назад

    Paying for the crystal and splashing out for comfort mods and decent speakers on top just annoyed me.
    I bought the globular cluster strap and some upgraded speakers for the psvr2 but it was so much cheaper overall i didn't mind. Also....OLED ftw.

  • @dirkthevrstroller
    @dirkthevrstroller 12 часов назад

    As I wrote in various posts on reddit, I won't let go the Reverb G2 'till it works, one way or another. There's simply no substitute for it, and I tried almost everything (and I also use quite regularly both Quest 3 and PSVR2). I never had a single issue with the cable, or with WMR itself, and performance-wise it's far superior to the Quest 3 on the same hardware, with incomparable video quality, due to the DisplayPort signal vs streaming (which is unbearable to me in more graphically complex games, even using WiFi 6E, or Link cable with 960mbit data rate). I'll keep Windows 10 and 11 23H2 locked on my PC with the InControl application, and then I'll use 0patch to receive future security updates after 2025. But in no way am I gonna stop using a headset I love and have spent a lot of money on. Just yesterday I was playing Subside, and, needless to say, it's incredible visually on the G2.

    • @fulgerion
      @fulgerion 10 часов назад +1

      I also have the G2 and the colors and flacks are flawless. Only reason I got it was for space sims, and my color vision is unforgiving accurate. Going to be really difficult finding a replacement.

  • @paolominutoli2516
    @paolominutoli2516 7 часов назад

    yep, i bought RG2 only for sebastian advice....

  • @AD-zc2ug
    @AD-zc2ug 14 часов назад

    DPVR is the way to go

  • @temjin0014
    @temjin0014 23 часа назад

    Angry at MS. My Reverb G2 has been working just fine.

  • @trashken
    @trashken 17 часов назад

    Can anyone confirm Windows 10 is working with G2? Will try to install it into a seperate partition just for VR purposes.

    •  14 часов назад

      Windows 10 still works with the Reverb G2. I am dual booting Windows 10 and Linux.
      In an article on UploadVR titled 'Microsoft Explains What Will Happen To Windows Mixed Reality Headsets' from 21 december 2023 a Microsoft company representative is quoted saying:
      "As of Nov. 1, 2026 for consumers and Nov. 1, 2027 for commercial customers, Windows Mixed Reality will no longer be available for download via the Mixed Reality Portal app, Windows Mixed Reality for SteamVR, and Steam VR beta, and we will discontinue support.
      [...]
      Existing Windows Mixed Reality devices will continue to work with Steam until users upgrade to a version of Windows that does not include Windows Mixed Reality."

  • @Zetler
    @Zetler 29 минут назад

    WTF!!? I thought this would not happen until 2025-26?

  • @Racingfan101
    @Racingfan101 День назад

    BSB is great except that your eyes get hot. Too hot and is not comfy to wear because of this only if you like sweaty eyes.

  • @technikchegger7228
    @technikchegger7228 День назад +1

    ​​HP REVERB G3 DO IT HP

    • @saltkringel2
      @saltkringel2 День назад +6

      never support HP again.

    • @zerocool6452
      @zerocool6452 День назад +1

      @@saltkringel2 Why not?

    • @jlepage36
      @jlepage36 День назад +4

      @@saltkringel2 WMR was a boat anchor around the G2's neck. If they got rid of WMR, used OLEDs, Quest 3 quality lenses, controllers, and tracking on a Reverb G3 it could be an incredible HMD -- probably better than Pimax Crystal.

    • @richardnoall3758
      @richardnoall3758 День назад +1

      @@saltkringel2 I had superb support from HP on the G2, would love to see a G3!

    • @malekkinos
      @malekkinos День назад

      @@richardnoall3758 I confirm, great support from HP

  • @dathyr1
    @dathyr1 20 часов назад

    Well I have only Windows 10 and use my Quest 3 for SIM racing gaming. Time shall Tell what Microsoft even does with Windows 10 systems. I think support ends in 2026, so see what happens then. I do have the HP Reverb G2 and Odesey +, but I have retired then a long time ago. My main reason was the sweet spots on these devices were terrible.
    Time shall Tell the future and usage of various VR headsets. Microsoft does not care about VR users. Disgusting.

  • @BlackGoku14
    @BlackGoku14 19 часов назад

    DON'T buy the Crystal Light, I repeat, DON'T DO IT. Pimax messed up the tracking, the original Crystal is much better, and it is such a bad headset compared to Quest 3. YES, the visuals are beautiful BUT everything else is absolutely worse than the Quest 3 and that makes it to be a much worse experience. Tracking is worse, lenses are worse, controllers are worse, passthrough cameras are worse, audio is worse, microphone is worse, design is worse, comfort is worse, LITERALLY EVERYTHING IS WORSE in the Crystal Light. JUST GET A QUEST 3, it is the best recomendation you will get in this comments section.

    • @mixedrealityTV
      @mixedrealityTV  14 часов назад

      The tracking of the Crystal Light is just as good as the Quest 3. Probably your unit is broken?

    • @BlackGoku14
      @BlackGoku14 10 часов назад

      @@mixedrealityTV Are you kidding me? you are a VR expert, and I really doubt you didn't notice the difference in tracking smoothness and precision of the Quest 3 compared to the Crystal Light. I am not talking about the controllers, which of course give a better tracking, but about the head tracking. The head tracking of the Quest 3 is absolutely smooth, compared to the shaky stuttery head tracking of the Crystal Light. And the lenses? there is a night and day difference there, it doesn't worth to sacrifice everything for extra visuals which you don't enjoy. Crystal Light only works for being seated looking to the horizon, but any game which you move your head, it is just a bad experience. I prefer to play Half Life Alyx on the Quest 3, just going to say that.

    • @RandomNoise
      @RandomNoise 9 часов назад

      I completly agree, the blur from bad tracking is making the Crystal Light unusable.
      I just received mine few days ago, and tried everything, but still no solution. My head and eyes are hurting so much because of this. I really dont know where is this famous Crystal image???
      Its just a big hype, but no quality.

  • @LindaTaylor-e7u
    @LindaTaylor-e7u 19 часов назад

    Rodriguez Cynthia Taylor Deborah Williams Frank