its just a nit pick and i to can find some flaws with every single headset out there but the worst part with all vr headset is there lcd diplays cos they cant project black and is the worse thing for me and they are way to overpriced plus u need high end pc to even get the most out of those headsets. and its all about getting use to it and soon u forget most of the negatives but i cant deal with grey dark screens in quest like lcd base headsets
This feels wrong. Why can't Microsoft just keep legacy drivers/software in Windows for people to continue using their vr headsets that are expensive, like reverb g2. Even meta allows you to still run rift headsets via their pc meta software.
I mean, the deprecation of WMR almost feels illegal tbh. Especially since the Reverb G2v2 was sold until 2022. I understand that it is hard to support the WMR Portal since that part of the software is highly integrated with OS features. HOWEVER, how difficult would it be to make some adjustments to the software? Like removing the "portal" altogether while keeping the 2D software as a downloadable "driver" and "settings tool" (with core features like "room boundaries" and "floor adjustment"). That would basically solve Microsoft's VR vision of "giving up without even trying" 😜while at the same time offer some kind of legacy support for WMR. The difference would be that there's no OS-level integration with WMR, and you would instead start VR software from the desktop, and of course keeping the option of making the software auto-boot into SteamVR.
This is why All PC headsets need native Steam VR drivers. At least as an option. These proprietary middleman software and/or digital stores have been trouble from day one. No one asked for them and no one wants them. Tech is great but many people and/or companies are not. Things like this are just going to happen more and more. This is why we can't have nice things.
@@kurousagi1339 Very true! I even paused when trying it. However, I settled on Steam VR because it is the closest platform we have that could be called standard and welcomes all HMDs. Valve seems to truly want VR to succeed and grow. The others want to play King Of The Hill. Viewing all players in their space as Threats instead of Allies. Looking down at their costumers as nothing more than peasants with resources to be extracted. Too Dramatic? Maybe. True? Absolutely!
I have heard that there are projects dedicated to using windows mixed reality devices like the reverb g2 WITHOUT windows mixed reality so you can continue to use these devices after windows mixed reality is discontinued, but I don't know enough about them yet to point anyone in any particular direction - I would love it if MRTV could do a video on one or more of these projects if they can determine that they work well. thanks!
@@td325ic my system can't run windows 10 (at least not well) due to asymetric cpu scheduling (and I wouldn't want to run an old version of windows anyway, that's kind of dumb)) and windows will automatically upgrade to the latest version of itself moving forward. there must be a way to use the wmr hardware without wmr.
The g2 is not dead at all 🤷♂️ its working perfectly fine for me in windows 10 and will continue to till at least 2026 Why are RUclipsrs keep on trying to tell us to get the next best headset they all have flaws and are over priced Not everyone gets a free shiny vr headset when it comes out to try from the manufacturer we have to pay for them and at them prices no thank you My g2 has never been so sharp with my tweaking and my setup and I’m sure a lot of other people are in the same boat
Hi Paulman, like I said in the video, for Windows 11 latest update it is dead. And as I said in the video (did you actually watch it) you can get around it by using Windows 10! Thanks for watching and engaging with my content! :)
Depricating hardware is beyond stupid. I hate Microsoft/HP for depricated my printer. I now got to hate M$ for doing it once again! F win11, Im not upgrading.
I have done the only reasonable thing as a Reverb G2 owner, I ditched Windows for Manjaro (Linux), due to now having zero trust in Microsoft. I installed Windows 10 on a separate disk to be only used for VR and the HP Reverb G2. I'm riding this storm out until there's a reasonable Linux-compatible headset. My hope lies in Valve's upcoming mythical headset; "Deckard".
It really sucks that Microsoft's Windows Mixed Reality platform is coming to an end. It would be a great move if Microsoft made the project open source. This would allow the developer community to continue to evolve and improve the platform, keeping it alive.
Win11 is crap, Even from a MSP IT pro perspective it's an absolute POS! Just Try disabling back ground apps in 11 and compare to 10. Open devices and printers from the control panel. 11 is crap stick with 10 or consider linux or waiting for win 12.
I remember about a year ago you were in Korea or Japan and you tried a headset still in development. You said it was the best you had ever seen till that time, also your cameraman was super enthousiastic about it. The company ceo however, said it wouldn't probably go for sale in Europe. Is there any news on that one, or did I miss that? Thanks Seb!
I think PSVR2 should be included here. Ok, it does not have the display quality of the PCL or other more expensive headsets, but it has OLED, larger field of view and the support of Sony (who just realised an update for those doubters). And it was on sale for £350 not so long ago.
@@Jopekos In as far as they are fresnel and not as clear as the others, but the others are much more expensive. If you are looking for something to replace the G2, it's definitely in the running.
@@Jopekos I own the PSVR2 and the reverb g2 and the array of oculus headsets. The PSVR2 is my fav in terms of image quality. I also see the mura that people speak of but to me the oled darks and color vibrancy more than make up for it. The mura doesn’t bother me at all. Just my personal experience though.
I watched your review on Reverb G2 and ordered it right after. It served me well these years. Recently I purchased Quest 3 512gb because its big price drop, and there is no going back to Reverb G2 because the lens is just so good! No more hunting for the small clear spot in the middle when putting on the headset. Also Virtual Desktop with VDXR performance jumps up so much with FS 2020 I no longer worry about frame rate in the games.
I certainly wont be upgrading to Windows 11! I love my G2 combined with a bit of essential Fholger CAS sharpening. I've managed to backup (and reinstall) microsoft openxr with uwpbackup. Tried backing up the mixed reality UWP apps, with the intention of loading them into windows 11, but couldn't get it to work. Hopefully someone out there with better knowledge of UWP can get it working.
@@jlepage36 Yes, but that will be quite some time away. I would have replaced my G2 by then. Looking at the crystal light, but I'm still worried about the weight of it compared to the G2, as I play skyrim VR, etc.
such a shame. Both options (crystal light and BSB) are not convincing to me. It feels like BSB needs the V2 of its headset to be considered. Just the fact that scanning the face only happens via iphone app says it all. But one thing which we need to give a credit to BSB is that it pushes a significant milestone when it comes to size and weight. Pimax in contrary feels super bulky and cheap. The visuals might be the best but it doesn't seem like a significant change to what competition offers. So I would rather downgrade to Windows 10 and go through all the workarounds than upgrade to pimax crystal light. Quest is Facebook, so no thank you 😅
I had both the original Reverb and the Reverb G2 for a long time. Loved the lightness and comfort of the G2 vs the Quest 2. Currently using the Quest 3 but upgrading to the Pimax Crystal Light not out of the question. Bigscreen Beyond is more of a problem due to higher cost plus the need to purchase base stations and controllers. I also consider the HTC Vive Focus Vision as a possible upgrade path; anxious to see some reviews of that unit. Very unhappy with Microsoft.
@@mixedrealityTV I agree I tried the PSVR2 I found the picture was not good enough for Sim racing everything in the distance is blurry. I have ordered the crystal light really looking forward it it.
PSVR2 at 150% super sampling is sharp in simracing (4200x4200). Of course you miss clarity of higher res headsets like my bsb, but PSVR2 is more comfortable to wear, is light, doesnt get hot and screen doesnt give off heat to the eyes (ehm bsb).
@@Racingfan101 Nothing I could do would make it as clear as the Reverb G2, for me the comfort of the PSVR2 was the worst could be my head shape but it would dig into my forehead when the sweet spot was in the right place. I did love the colours everything up close looked great but distance was a mess too much screen door
As a G2 owner since launch I've pre-ordered the Pimax Crystal Super OLED version. And postponing Win11 updates as far as I can since I'm using WIn11 Pro.
It's funny that in the announcement killing the Hololens 2, Microsoft also said they would continue to support Mixed reality and 3rd-parties. I wish someone responded to them directly that that was an outright false statement since they had already announced they were killing 3rd-party support with this update.
It was a great headset, very comfortable, great speakers, controllers OK - better if you had the Samsung controllers like me. As soon as I heard it would lose support I sold mine and got a Quest 3 which I'm very happy with even for PCVR using virtual desktop. RIP Windows Mixed Reality, you were janky AF and your controllers were often not well supported, but you were a cheap and usable way to get into VR!
There is an initiative to stop games from dying, especially in server support. When support is dropped software should be opensourced as a matter of law!!!
It's crazy, all they needed to do is make an oled and aspheric lense version and it would be the perfect pc vr headset, why has this thing been killed of? I will not stop using mine till we have a viable mid range pc vr display port headset, it's madness we still don't have one, it's all high end only right now
I think this would be a good time to bring up the HTC Vive Focus Vision. People are disappointed but this perhaps could be a fantastic replacement from the hp reverb g2 due to the DisplayPort and it can also be wireless pcvr. It’d be nice to be able to pull of all nighters and wireless mobile pcvr with just one headset in my opinion
Bigscreen Beyond headset reminded me of buying a gaming console but it doesn't come with a controller nor required pluggings to play it. All sold separately in different store on top of requirement in owning a special phone to scan your hands in order to buy its controller 🤦♂️
quite clear for anyone who invested in this headset to never support Windows products again. I bought the G2 Reverb on the reveiws by MRTV. if i knew it would be for only 5 years and then its literally dead i would never have invested. To date G2 reverb after its rocky V1 cable start is my most comfortable VR Headset. i have a Pico 4 with all the mods to make it nice but still G2 reverb is better for me even with Frenel lenses.
Sebastian, thank you as always for your videos, but I need your review and comparison of the Somnium VR1 with the Crystal. Why don't you talk about it? Why don't you have it? I need your last word before I order it!
The least Microsoft can do is realease a WMR to OpenXR translation layer without the WMR environment. Microsoft is currently selling ditching Windows. I really hope Deckard becomes amazing.
upgrading from the reverb g2 v2 😎 used quest 3 128g as low as $450 the quest 3s or PlayStation vr are $400 used quest 2 are flooding the market low af $150
Paying for the crystal and splashing out for comfort mods and decent speakers on top just annoyed me. I bought the globular cluster strap and some upgraded speakers for the psvr2 but it was so much cheaper overall i didn't mind. Also....OLED ftw.
As I wrote in various posts on reddit, I won't let go the Reverb G2 'till it works, one way or another. There's simply no substitute for it, and I tried almost everything (and I also use quite regularly both Quest 3 and PSVR2). I never had a single issue with the cable, or with WMR itself, and performance-wise it's far superior to the Quest 3 on the same hardware, with incomparable video quality, due to the DisplayPort signal vs streaming (which is unbearable to me in more graphically complex games, even using WiFi 6E, or Link cable with 960mbit data rate). I'll keep Windows 10 and 11 23H2 locked on my PC with the InControl application, and then I'll use 0patch to receive future security updates after 2025. But in no way am I gonna stop using a headset I love and have spent a lot of money on. Just yesterday I was playing Subside, and, needless to say, it's incredible visually on the G2.
I also have the G2 and the colors and flacks are flawless. Only reason I got it was for space sims, and my color vision is unforgiving accurate. Going to be really difficult finding a replacement.
Can anyone confirm Windows 10 is working with G2? Will try to install it into a seperate partition just for VR purposes.
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Windows 10 still works with the Reverb G2. I am dual booting Windows 10 and Linux. In an article on UploadVR titled 'Microsoft Explains What Will Happen To Windows Mixed Reality Headsets' from 21 december 2023 a Microsoft company representative is quoted saying: "As of Nov. 1, 2026 for consumers and Nov. 1, 2027 for commercial customers, Windows Mixed Reality will no longer be available for download via the Mixed Reality Portal app, Windows Mixed Reality for SteamVR, and Steam VR beta, and we will discontinue support. [...] Existing Windows Mixed Reality devices will continue to work with Steam until users upgrade to a version of Windows that does not include Windows Mixed Reality."
@@saltkringel2 WMR was a boat anchor around the G2's neck. If they got rid of WMR, used OLEDs, Quest 3 quality lenses, controllers, and tracking on a Reverb G3 it could be an incredible HMD -- probably better than Pimax Crystal.
Well I have only Windows 10 and use my Quest 3 for SIM racing gaming. Time shall Tell what Microsoft even does with Windows 10 systems. I think support ends in 2026, so see what happens then. I do have the HP Reverb G2 and Odesey +, but I have retired then a long time ago. My main reason was the sweet spots on these devices were terrible. Time shall Tell the future and usage of various VR headsets. Microsoft does not care about VR users. Disgusting.
DON'T buy the Crystal Light, I repeat, DON'T DO IT. Pimax messed up the tracking, the original Crystal is much better, and it is such a bad headset compared to Quest 3. YES, the visuals are beautiful BUT everything else is absolutely worse than the Quest 3 and that makes it to be a much worse experience. Tracking is worse, lenses are worse, controllers are worse, passthrough cameras are worse, audio is worse, microphone is worse, design is worse, comfort is worse, LITERALLY EVERYTHING IS WORSE in the Crystal Light. JUST GET A QUEST 3, it is the best recomendation you will get in this comments section.
@@mixedrealityTV Are you kidding me? you are a VR expert, and I really doubt you didn't notice the difference in tracking smoothness and precision of the Quest 3 compared to the Crystal Light. I am not talking about the controllers, which of course give a better tracking, but about the head tracking. The head tracking of the Quest 3 is absolutely smooth, compared to the shaky stuttery head tracking of the Crystal Light. And the lenses? there is a night and day difference there, it doesn't worth to sacrifice everything for extra visuals which you don't enjoy. Crystal Light only works for being seated looking to the horizon, but any game which you move your head, it is just a bad experience. I prefer to play Half Life Alyx on the Quest 3, just going to say that.
I completly agree, the blur from bad tracking is making the Crystal Light unusable. I just received mine few days ago, and tried everything, but still no solution. My head and eyes are hurting so much because of this. I really dont know where is this famous Crystal image??? Its just a big hype, but no quality.
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Which VR headset will you upgrade to?
Pimax crystal light without local dimming that does not exsist and probably will never arrive
What about the Sony PS VR2 with PC dongle?
none of the ones you recommend
its just a nit pick and i to can find some flaws with every single headset out there but the worst part with all vr headset is there lcd diplays cos they cant project black and is the worse thing for me and they are way to overpriced plus u need high end pc to even get the most out of those headsets. and its all about getting use to it and soon u forget most of the negatives but i cant deal with grey dark screens in quest like lcd base headsets
This feels wrong. Why can't Microsoft just keep legacy drivers/software in Windows for people to continue using their vr headsets that are expensive, like reverb g2.
Even meta allows you to still run rift headsets via their pc meta software.
I mean, the deprecation of WMR almost feels illegal tbh. Especially since the Reverb G2v2 was sold until 2022. I understand that it is hard to support the WMR Portal since that part of the software is highly integrated with OS features. HOWEVER, how difficult would it be to make some adjustments to the software? Like removing the "portal" altogether while keeping the 2D software as a downloadable "driver" and "settings tool" (with core features like "room boundaries" and "floor adjustment"). That would basically solve Microsoft's VR vision of "giving up without even trying" 😜while at the same time offer some kind of legacy support for WMR. The difference would be that there's no OS-level integration with WMR, and you would instead start VR software from the desktop, and of course keeping the option of making the software auto-boot into SteamVR.
This is why All PC headsets need native Steam VR drivers. At least as an option. These proprietary middleman software and/or digital stores have been trouble from day one. No one asked for them and no one wants them. Tech is great but many people and/or companies are not. Things like this are just going to happen more and more. This is why we can't have nice things.
But what do I do if Steam disappears? Where will I get my Steam VR drivers then? 😔
@@kurousagi1339 Very true! I even paused when trying it. However, I settled on Steam VR because it is the closest platform we have that could be called standard and welcomes all HMDs. Valve seems to truly want VR to succeed and grow. The others want to play King Of The Hill. Viewing all players in their space as Threats instead of Allies. Looking down at their costumers as nothing more than peasants with resources to be extracted. Too Dramatic? Maybe. True? Absolutely!
*native openxr drivers.
steamvr has also moved on to openxr
I have heard that there are projects dedicated to using windows mixed reality devices like the reverb g2 WITHOUT windows mixed reality so you can continue to use these devices after windows mixed reality is discontinued, but I don't know enough about them yet to point anyone in any particular direction - I would love it if MRTV could do a video on one or more of these projects if they can determine that they work well. thanks!
simple solution, don't upgrade to windows 11 or dual boot
@@td325ic my system can't run windows 10 (at least not well) due to asymetric cpu scheduling (and I wouldn't want to run an old version of windows anyway, that's kind of dumb)) and windows will automatically upgrade to the latest version of itself moving forward. there must be a way to use the wmr hardware without wmr.
Microsoft keeps making fucking horrible decisions lmao
The g2 is not dead at all 🤷♂️ its working perfectly fine for me in windows 10 and will continue to till at least 2026
Why are RUclipsrs keep on trying to tell us to get the next best headset they all have flaws and are over priced
Not everyone gets a free shiny vr headset when it comes out to try from the manufacturer
we have to pay for them and at them prices no thank you
My g2 has never been so sharp with my tweaking and my setup and I’m sure a lot of other people are in the same boat
Did you not read the video title? Its for windows 11 users not for windows 10 users.
*My G2 has never been so sharp in the miniscule central lens sweetspot
Hi Paulman, like I said in the video, for Windows 11 latest update it is dead. And as I said in the video (did you actually watch it) you can get around it by using Windows 10! Thanks for watching and engaging with my content! :)
Yep guys, but how many ppl ante not going to uprgrade windows??
Such a horrible decision in my opinion, as we paid the thing 600€ at that time
Depricating hardware is beyond stupid.
I hate Microsoft/HP for depricated my printer.
I now got to hate M$ for doing it once again!
F win11, Im not upgrading.
Windows 11 really suck.
I have done the only reasonable thing as a Reverb G2 owner, I ditched Windows for Manjaro (Linux), due to now having zero trust in Microsoft. I installed Windows 10 on a separate disk to be only used for VR and the HP Reverb G2. I'm riding this storm out until there's a reasonable Linux-compatible headset. My hope lies in Valve's upcoming mythical headset; "Deckard".
It really sucks that Microsoft's Windows Mixed Reality platform is coming to an end. It would be a great move if Microsoft made the project open source. This would allow the developer community to continue to evolve and improve the platform, keeping it alive.
Win11 is crap, Even from a MSP IT pro perspective it's an absolute POS! Just Try disabling back ground apps in 11 and compare to 10. Open devices and printers from the control panel.
11 is crap stick with 10 or consider linux or waiting for win 12.
Someone should be sued over this.
Imagine you bought a car and the manufacturer forces you to update, but the update shuts off your steering.
I remember about a year ago you were in Korea or Japan and you tried a headset still in development. You said it was the best you had ever seen till that time, also your cameraman was super enthousiastic about it. The company ceo however, said it wouldn't probably go for sale in Europe. Is there any news on that one, or did I miss that? Thanks Seb!
Oh stay tuned to the channel! There might be news about this one soon!
I think PSVR2 should be included here. Ok, it does not have the display quality of the PCL or other more expensive headsets, but it has OLED, larger field of view and the support of Sony (who just realised an update for those doubters). And it was on sale for £350 not so long ago.
PSVR2 has a serious problem with the lenses, I saw several users talking about how bad they are.
@@Jopekos In as far as they are fresnel and not as clear as the others, but the others are much more expensive. If you are looking for something to replace the G2, it's definitely in the running.
@@Jopekos I own the PSVR2 and the reverb g2 and the array of oculus headsets. The PSVR2 is my fav in terms of image quality. I also see the mura that people speak of but to me the oled darks and color vibrancy more than make up for it. The mura doesn’t bother me at all. Just my personal experience though.
@@TheLostBrain I would agree, there are trade-offs on every headset, the PSVR2 more than competes given it's advantages.
"the support of Sony" lol.
Dude, Sony still hasn't provided the SDK to developers to enable all the missing features of the headset.
I watched your review on Reverb G2 and ordered it right after. It served me well these years. Recently I purchased Quest 3 512gb because its big price drop, and there is no going back to Reverb G2 because the lens is just so good! No more hunting for the small clear spot in the middle when putting on the headset. Also Virtual Desktop with VDXR performance jumps up so much with FS 2020 I no longer worry about frame rate in the games.
What about the diference between de displayport and de wireless connection?
I certainly wont be upgrading to Windows 11! I love my G2 combined with a bit of essential Fholger CAS sharpening. I've managed to backup (and reinstall) microsoft openxr with uwpbackup. Tried backing up the mixed reality UWP apps, with the intention of loading them into windows 11, but couldn't get it to work. Hopefully someone out there with better knowledge of UWP can get it working.
Eventually Windows 10 won't be supported and it will be the wild west of viruses.
@@jlepage36 Yes, but that will be quite some time away. I would have replaced my G2 by then. Looking at the crystal light, but I'm still worried about the weight of it compared to the G2, as I play skyrim VR, etc.
such a shame. Both options (crystal light and BSB) are not convincing to me. It feels like BSB needs the V2 of its headset to be considered. Just the fact that scanning the face only happens via iphone app says it all. But one thing which we need to give a credit to BSB is that it pushes a significant milestone when it comes to size and weight. Pimax in contrary feels super bulky and cheap. The visuals might be the best but it doesn't seem like a significant change to what competition offers. So I would rather downgrade to Windows 10 and go through all the workarounds than upgrade to pimax crystal light. Quest is Facebook, so no thank you 😅
I had both the original Reverb and the Reverb G2 for a long time. Loved the lightness and comfort of the G2 vs the Quest 2. Currently using the Quest 3 but upgrading to the Pimax Crystal Light not out of the question. Bigscreen Beyond is more of a problem due to higher cost plus the need to purchase base stations and controllers. I also consider the HTC Vive Focus Vision as a possible upgrade path; anxious to see some reviews of that unit.
Very unhappy with Microsoft.
This is sad news indeed, let me put on my sad face while I explain to my wife why I absolutely need a crystal light right now😅
That's the way to go!
PSVR 2 with the PC adapter is also a viable alternative, it's the one I'm getting.
I did exactly that, I'm happy with my choice! My user case is seated, wired simulation and I see no need to go wireless.
Great video. RIP G2 😢
psvr 2 is the only right answer
If you are coming from G2 it might look a bit soft, that is why i did not include it. It is a great option as well though.
@@mixedrealityTV I agree I tried the PSVR2 I found the picture was not good enough for Sim racing everything in the distance is blurry. I have ordered the crystal light really looking forward it it.
PSVR2 at 150% super sampling is sharp in simracing (4200x4200). Of course you miss clarity of higher res headsets like my bsb, but PSVR2 is more comfortable to wear, is light, doesnt get hot and screen doesnt give off heat to the eyes (ehm bsb).
Controllers also are good except for battery and easy to pick up and play.
@@Racingfan101 Nothing I could do would make it as clear as the Reverb G2, for me the comfort of the PSVR2 was the worst could be my head shape but it would dig into my forehead when the sweet spot was in the right place. I did love the colours everything up close looked great but distance was a mess too much screen door
Sony just sold another PSVR2.
As a G2 owner since launch I've pre-ordered the Pimax Crystal Super OLED version. And postponing Win11 updates as far as I can since I'm using WIn11 Pro.
Does the "Fixed Foveated Rendering" from the pimax crystal light works like an eye tracking? And between both what is better?
It's funny that in the announcement killing the Hololens 2, Microsoft also said they would continue to support Mixed reality and 3rd-parties. I wish someone responded to them directly that that was an outright false statement since they had already announced they were killing 3rd-party support with this update.
What about the PSVR2? The Big FOV and the Price dont worthy?
PSVR2 is great but not sharper than G2. That's why I did not list it.
It was a great headset, very comfortable, great speakers, controllers OK - better if you had the Samsung controllers like me.
As soon as I heard it would lose support I sold mine and got a Quest 3 which I'm very happy with even for PCVR using virtual desktop.
RIP Windows Mixed Reality, you were janky AF and your controllers were often not well supported, but you were a cheap and usable way to get into VR!
Reverb was the king over the last 4 years. The new King for the next 3 years is the Crystal Light or until retina resolution is available.
the comfort of the G2 is great too, it's sooo light though
No, the only king is the Quest 3, unless you only play seated games.
Hi Seb. When's the pimax crystal super coming out? 😊
Probably sometime next year.
Straight up crazy. They’re not that old
I remember I pre ordered the G2 and the Varjo Aero because of you lol. Now my favorite headset is the PICO4. Can't wait for the PICO5
There is an initiative to stop games from dying, especially in server support.
When support is dropped software should be opensourced as a matter of law!!!
It's crazy, all they needed to do is make an oled and aspheric lense version and it would be the perfect pc vr headset, why has this thing been killed of? I will not stop using mine till we have a viable mid range pc vr display port headset, it's madness we still don't have one, it's all high end only right now
Still rocking a Pimax 5k Super. For.what I do, it is more than enough.
great headup info video Sir! as always! 👍👍
Thanks!
I think this would be a good time to bring up the HTC Vive Focus Vision. People are disappointed but this perhaps could be a fantastic replacement from the hp reverb g2 due to the DisplayPort and it can also be wireless pcvr. It’d be nice to be able to pull of all nighters and wireless mobile pcvr with just one headset in my opinion
Bigscreen Beyond headset reminded me of buying a gaming console but it doesn't come with a controller nor required pluggings to play it. All sold separately in different store on top of requirement in owning a special phone to scan your hands in order to buy its controller 🤦♂️
Win 11 is some kind of joke. I have this shit on my office laptop I hate it.
quite clear for anyone who invested in this headset to never support Windows products again. I bought the G2 Reverb on the reveiws by MRTV. if i knew it would be for only 5 years and then its literally dead i would never have invested. To date G2 reverb after its rocky V1 cable start is my most comfortable VR Headset. i have a Pico 4 with all the mods to make it nice but still G2 reverb is better for me even with Frenel lenses.
Sebastian, thank you as always for your videos, but I need your review and comparison of the Somnium VR1 with the Crystal. Why don't you talk about it? Why don't you have it? I need your last word before I order it!
Because unfortunately Somnium had not sent it to me for review. They are still working on delivering the first unit to their customers.
The least Microsoft can do is realease a WMR to OpenXR translation layer without the WMR environment. Microsoft is currently selling ditching Windows. I really hope Deckard becomes amazing.
upgrading from the reverb g2 v2 😎
used quest 3 128g as low as $450
the quest 3s or PlayStation vr are $400
used quest 2 are flooding the market low af $150
Mine still works great for gaming on Windows 10, but it is having some stuttering issues in VR preview in Unreal Engine 5.3 and 5.4.
Paying for the crystal and splashing out for comfort mods and decent speakers on top just annoyed me.
I bought the globular cluster strap and some upgraded speakers for the psvr2 but it was so much cheaper overall i didn't mind. Also....OLED ftw.
As I wrote in various posts on reddit, I won't let go the Reverb G2 'till it works, one way or another. There's simply no substitute for it, and I tried almost everything (and I also use quite regularly both Quest 3 and PSVR2). I never had a single issue with the cable, or with WMR itself, and performance-wise it's far superior to the Quest 3 on the same hardware, with incomparable video quality, due to the DisplayPort signal vs streaming (which is unbearable to me in more graphically complex games, even using WiFi 6E, or Link cable with 960mbit data rate). I'll keep Windows 10 and 11 23H2 locked on my PC with the InControl application, and then I'll use 0patch to receive future security updates after 2025. But in no way am I gonna stop using a headset I love and have spent a lot of money on. Just yesterday I was playing Subside, and, needless to say, it's incredible visually on the G2.
I also have the G2 and the colors and flacks are flawless. Only reason I got it was for space sims, and my color vision is unforgiving accurate. Going to be really difficult finding a replacement.
yep, i bought RG2 only for sebastian advice....
DPVR is the way to go
Angry at MS. My Reverb G2 has been working just fine.
Can anyone confirm Windows 10 is working with G2? Will try to install it into a seperate partition just for VR purposes.
Windows 10 still works with the Reverb G2. I am dual booting Windows 10 and Linux.
In an article on UploadVR titled 'Microsoft Explains What Will Happen To Windows Mixed Reality Headsets' from 21 december 2023 a Microsoft company representative is quoted saying:
"As of Nov. 1, 2026 for consumers and Nov. 1, 2027 for commercial customers, Windows Mixed Reality will no longer be available for download via the Mixed Reality Portal app, Windows Mixed Reality for SteamVR, and Steam VR beta, and we will discontinue support.
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Existing Windows Mixed Reality devices will continue to work with Steam until users upgrade to a version of Windows that does not include Windows Mixed Reality."
WTF!!? I thought this would not happen until 2025-26?
BSB is great except that your eyes get hot. Too hot and is not comfy to wear because of this only if you like sweaty eyes.
HP REVERB G3 DO IT HP
never support HP again.
@@saltkringel2 Why not?
@@saltkringel2 WMR was a boat anchor around the G2's neck. If they got rid of WMR, used OLEDs, Quest 3 quality lenses, controllers, and tracking on a Reverb G3 it could be an incredible HMD -- probably better than Pimax Crystal.
@@saltkringel2 I had superb support from HP on the G2, would love to see a G3!
@@richardnoall3758 I confirm, great support from HP
Well I have only Windows 10 and use my Quest 3 for SIM racing gaming. Time shall Tell what Microsoft even does with Windows 10 systems. I think support ends in 2026, so see what happens then. I do have the HP Reverb G2 and Odesey +, but I have retired then a long time ago. My main reason was the sweet spots on these devices were terrible.
Time shall Tell the future and usage of various VR headsets. Microsoft does not care about VR users. Disgusting.
DON'T buy the Crystal Light, I repeat, DON'T DO IT. Pimax messed up the tracking, the original Crystal is much better, and it is such a bad headset compared to Quest 3. YES, the visuals are beautiful BUT everything else is absolutely worse than the Quest 3 and that makes it to be a much worse experience. Tracking is worse, lenses are worse, controllers are worse, passthrough cameras are worse, audio is worse, microphone is worse, design is worse, comfort is worse, LITERALLY EVERYTHING IS WORSE in the Crystal Light. JUST GET A QUEST 3, it is the best recomendation you will get in this comments section.
The tracking of the Crystal Light is just as good as the Quest 3. Probably your unit is broken?
@@mixedrealityTV Are you kidding me? you are a VR expert, and I really doubt you didn't notice the difference in tracking smoothness and precision of the Quest 3 compared to the Crystal Light. I am not talking about the controllers, which of course give a better tracking, but about the head tracking. The head tracking of the Quest 3 is absolutely smooth, compared to the shaky stuttery head tracking of the Crystal Light. And the lenses? there is a night and day difference there, it doesn't worth to sacrifice everything for extra visuals which you don't enjoy. Crystal Light only works for being seated looking to the horizon, but any game which you move your head, it is just a bad experience. I prefer to play Half Life Alyx on the Quest 3, just going to say that.
I completly agree, the blur from bad tracking is making the Crystal Light unusable.
I just received mine few days ago, and tried everything, but still no solution. My head and eyes are hurting so much because of this. I really dont know where is this famous Crystal image???
Its just a big hype, but no quality.
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