If Connor has his own eulogy, his speech would be look like this: "My father was a man. When a man dies, everybody sad. My father lived for 80 years and he's not anymore. He had me and my three other siblings with three other wives including my mother, and now we're sad."
Possibly...but one thing to remember is Tom wasn't there at all...he was running the company. Logan once criticized Kendall for going to his birthday party over running the company. Maybe in the end Tom is the one who passed the final test. We'll see if this take aged like wine or milk in a few days.
Only at Logan Roy’s funeral could a show of genuine grief be regarded as unnatural, embarrassing, and wrong. When I die, I would like there to be someone reacting to my death like Roman did.
It’s crazy huh? I’ve seen a few comments that belittled Roman for expressing grieve over his father and to me that’s so wild. If that’s not an example of toxic masculinity at its best idk what is. It reminded me of my own reaction when I was burying my mother. People told me to “not take too long to be sad” and expected me to have the “appropriate” amount of emotions. But all I wanted to do was kick them in the face and then cry some more.
I don't think it was grief from his love for his father. It was Roman was triggered by Ewan's recollection of the abuse that Logan suffered and it reminded him of what he suffered from his father. It was an insane mix of love and hate and repressed memories flooding back and overwhelming him.
No one thought it was unnatural. However, in this business, people will not follow you if you cannot keep your composure in difficult situations. It’s ruthless, but Kendall proved he is much more qualified by nailing this moment and being strong. Unfortunately, that’s just the way this succession world works.
Watching Kendall’s again, it did feel less authentic and more of a facade “I have to do this a certain way for the business.” Shiv’s was a bit more real
@@iMbaKunkkaAdam Smith was a mercantilist who believed the pursuit of wealth was driven by nations. Capitalism is a philosophy based in wealth of the individual.
The way Ewan (Logan’s brother) is looking at Ken during and particularly after his speech… it’s like he’s just beginning to see that Ken is the reincarnation of Logan. It’s like a mix of respect and terror. Amazing.
@@illijah Respect and terror are absolutely not two sides of the same coin. One can go without the other. Only respect without terror is fine, but terror without respect will just make everyone try to rip you apart.
@@frname7665 They are linked. If the person I respected the most suddenly became my enemy, I'd fear them. Terror is a bad thing, but that's why it's the other side of respect.
I don't think Ken is the reincarnation of Logan and he knows he isn't. He said that to Logan himself in their last dinner together: I'm better than you, you're evil, I'm not.
A month after the finale I find myself revisiting this scene constantly. I truly believe this is the greatest performance in television history. A simultaneously horrifying and moving speech from Jeremy Strong. “The corpuscles of life gushing around this nation, this world, filling men and women all around with desire. Quickening the ambition to own, and make, and trade, and profit, and build, and improve. Great geysers of life he willed”. Simply masterful writing that really encapsulates the Roy family’s way of thinking. What a fucking show. I already dearly miss it.
It’s incredible how so many scenes from this show can be put on a list of amazing acting performances and all of them can make a case for it. This show was incredible and I’m glad I watched from the first season.
if you think bumbling idiot kendall's speech is the greatest scene in television history, i feel bad for you, but to each their own. You should really watch The Expanse, season 2, episode 5. THAT is one of the greatest scenes in tv history.
Going into this episode I had my doubts about whether the writers could create a eulogy that was both emotionally resonant and unflinchingly honest. They not only pulled it off, but Jeremy Strong delivered it beautifully beat by beat. I did not expect to cry in this episode but this got me. He just secured his second Emmy with this scene
Kierans coming in strong as well but I think that’s it’s almost certain one of them will be walking up on the stage in September (don’t have that much hope for Bob)
And then finale came and Jeremy acting outdo himself and outclassed everyone with one of the greatest television performance of all time , 💯 second emmy for currently best actor working today Jeremy strong
This is a game-tying pinch hit grand slam in the bottom of ninth. Kendall has gone from the guy striking out in the late innings to the one capable of getting the crowd on their feet. Wow.
@VAS Vas it's just a metaphor for how Kendall would typically lose at the final moments, but now he just staved off defeat and set himself up for victory.
@@krokodil7057 A woman who gives a birth becomes a mother. That is what i meant. Jesus. Even though her behavior makes it seem like she doesn't care, the maternal instinct for one's children is still present, and it sublimates unconsciously one's feelings. She does feel for at least shiv. Theres a good amount of literature on this. Calling her salty was a Stretch, you can't expect a person to remain naive in such an environment.
“Life is not knights on horseback, it’s a fight for a knife in the mud, a number on a piece of paper, not many can do what I do” - Logan Roy to Kendall Roy
"A boy never really becomes a man until he's buried his father". We saw the final transformation of Kendal when they exit the mausoleum/cript. From there on, he is Logan 2.0. The way he tells Roman "You fucked it" without any empathy after he pretty much colapsed during the eulogy. And the cherry on the cake of the transformation was Kendals disinderested "mhm" to Roman during the same conversation, which Logan used constantly, when someone explained something or gave an excuse, but he literally did not care.
He's been transforming into Logan 2.0 since his father's death. He started backstabbing his sibilings, just as Logan would. He has doubled down on the neglect of his children, as Logan did; he even started saying "I do all of this for my children", a phrase Logan used a lot. Kendall criticized Logan's business model as dependant of "seducing presidents", and yet he purposely gave Mencken the election to guarantee the death of Mattson's deal. He is becoming Logan, and doesn't know it.
In last episode, he pushed his siblings to choose Mecken and then in Logan's house for awakening, Mecken ignored him and mocked him as "The Grim Weeper" and Roman was totally surprised that he realized that Mecken isn't taking him seriously anymore.
"But I hope it's in me" is what bothered her. Kenny saw the chance and took it. Shiv, like her mother, is just too salty all the time. 100% ambition, 0% brain. But Snook obviously knocked it out of the park.
@@kunalbilaney1188didn't you see roman's expression changing too, if it was a man you would be waiting for the competition to unfold too, like always shiv haters are salty about her whole role without logic. She was the smartest, she already had a better backup plan than an emotional brother with some capitalist speech
I was so fucking pissed at the fact that every sibling had a chance to talk except Connor. And he even had an eulogy ready!! 😭 I know for certain it would be some stupid shit but come on let my boy SPEAK
The shot of Ken after the eulogies as he's walking down the aisle and everyone stands up to shake his hand with a reasured smile on their faces as the music swells is so great. It's like his coronation and everyone feels relieved to put their future in his hands, like a new worthy King replacing an old one. Could've ended the show on that scene.
YES! I thought the exact same thing. I keep bringing up Rheas read on the kids. And how logan and her both told Ken it was him. Logans speech to him at the beach came up too. I really hope Ken wins it all but I think he'll lose himself to it.
@@charityetzkorn4710 I've never "rooted" for any of the characters, but Ken becoming CEO will be the only really narratively satisfying conclusion imo. Other than that, they could have all the sibs lose and Tom getting brought in as an experienced and competent Yes-man puppet CEO under Mattson and Mencken's thumb, but as much as I love Macfadyen I'd feel very cheated if that happens. Anything other than that would just be disappointing shock value for the sake of throwing a twist curveball, hope they don't go for that.
@@jamesmanner9657 they make Tom CEO to shit on the siblings. Then just as Tom is settling in they send Greg into his office to fire him. Greg now runs the world. Shakespeare eats his heart out.
@Al We spent more time with Walter so we got to know him better but the depth and complexity of Kendall is very much on par with him I think. In fact Kendall is so much more nuanced and realstic in his transformation. Walter goes from a meek science teacher to a comic book villain by the end. Just watch his last scene in Better Call Saul, great performance but really over the top by that point. Please watch the other shows I mentioned, they're phenomenal! Should be on everyone's bucket list.
@@bregowine tom winning is being able to remain as the head of ATN. I don't see any path at all to him becoming CEO of the entire company. Maaaybe as some sort of compromise if Shiv is indisposed and the deal goes through. But i doubt it.
Since season 1 I’ve known kendall was the best fit for CEO if available. He’s got SO many problems. But he’s proven over and over he THRIVES under pressure when neither of his siblings can stand tall.
Which is so ironic because in normal scenarios he comes across as fumbling and insecure. But when the light is on he completely transforms, the opposite is true for Roman.
That’s actually the case with a lot of people with anxiety: they crumble under normal, trivial events. But when things go crazy they’re able to handle it somehow. I can’t speak for everyone, it’s just what I go through with my anxieties.
He's always been the guy but his greatest weakness is he can't "kill" his father because he loves him so much. Now that Logan is dead, nothing can stop Kendall from taking the company.
@@rishabhaniket1952Very common. He has good instincts, it’s just that he can never truly rely on them until he’s under pressure with no ability to overthink the situation.
Ken always thrives when it’s business. He was phenomenal during the hearings also. Living+ was obv great. It’s when he’s being triggered personally by his family that he crumbles. The BDay Party night and Shiv’s wretched public letter about him are two examples.
Lol, you obviously was abused as a kid if you think that being a "killer" is cool. It's always the weakest and most spineless people who praise violence and abuse and believe it's "cool".
Jeremy strong himself called this moment for Kendall his coronation day. When it comes to significant moments for Kendall, he always does his best when things aren’t planned. Every time he’s screwed up, it’s because he psyched himself. But this was completely in the moment, unplanned. Kendall has his father’s “vim”.
I mean he psyched himself for his Living+ speech and it went well. The changing factor is that he feels he's got his father's approval (thinking, rightly so imo, that it was indeed an underlining in ep. 4) and it allows him to truly become himself.
@Frname But he also was challenged from afar by Lucas during the speech, and managed to freestyle an answer that made Lucas look childish and unprofessional.
Can't always trust Strong's take on the scene -- he's SUCH a method actor that he literally sees through Kendall's eyes with zero objectivity. Kendall thought this was his "coronation," and thus so does Jeremy Strong. Personally, I think this was a merely passable performance by Kendall, a success where everyone expected failure (just like his Living+ presentation). Love the scene and Strong's performance regardless.
That last line always hits home for me. Aside from who Logan was, what a beautiful way to describe someone. “He was comfortable with this world, and he knew it.. and he liked it.”
Something I never noticed before what Shiv being taken aback by Kendall saying “by God, I hope it’s in me”: Ken spent so long resenting the man he tried to be to appeal to Logan, and now he’s embracing it, which almost scares her
Started out a bit shaky, which is understandable, but Kendall has proven time and again that he can perform on the spot. His usual wordsalads full of lingo can feel all over the place, but it worked really well here
The great thing about this scene is that the speech happened inside a church, but it was a prayer not to christian God, but for money God. He was honest, at least, but it shows that greed has no room for kindness
@@weebabyshakeus I knew it since the end of episode 4 this season... It was plain as day then, especially with the theme over the credits, it was like the music was letting you know, everything starts from here with kendall.
I knew he was the best fit when he gutted Vaulter. Cold, calculating, and ruthless. He always had it in him but it took a while with several more betrayals to harden him.
Caroline is such a phenomenal character. The way you see SO MUCH of the siblings whole history from just a few seconds of her performance, it all makes sense why they are the way they are. That little expression on her face there says so much, the resentment she must feel towards Logan always being the one everyone cares about, and at the same time how she's just unable to make any moment not about her... brilliant performance by Harriet Walter.
This is where Kendall won both Matsson and Mencken over. Those subtle smiles. I think even though Matsson is playing with the idea of Shiv as the American CEO at the end of the episode, I believe he’s playing the game until he can slip Kendall in instead.
I think maybe it may end up a merger deal that Logan originally went for. Mencken seemed to like Matsson as Matsson willing to share how algo work which can help Mencken to promote his ideology. I also think Mencken did not like Shiv at all and Matsson questioned Shiv ability.
Man, this was brilliant. The monologue, the acting, the camera cuts. Every second here tells a story. Amazing to see Kendall becoming the man he loved and hated at the same time
his father was never holding him back, i’d say he was rather training him for this exact moment from the eulogy to his request to Hugo, to finally become a KLR.
Without even touching on the content of the speech itself, kudos to the writers for finding a completely natural way to drop three meaty, unbroken, true blue monologues right into the middle of this episode in such an organic way
Even for a show with such stylized language- working this kind of writing in (with due credit to the performance of course) without breaking the flow at all is so fucking beast
I love that knowing look from Logan’s brother. He knows with this speech that Logan has secured his immortality through Kendall. Regardless of who ATN falls to, he has created someone earnestly capable of being as great and terrible as him
Agreed. Kendall reminds me of his Uncle at time, because his vocabulary is so unique, and at times it seems like he's almost pushing people away from his ideas because they don't understand his terminology. But I gotta give it up for him.. He is brilliant in the clutch, especially since he doesn't have Logan to kinda keep him down anymore.
It's as if the spirit of Logan possessed Kendall from this point forward and Kendall has truly become his father. His rise into the killer that Logan always wanted to be has been so satisfying, yet tragic. As Ewan said about Logan, Kendall has also stopped trying to be a good person.
The comments written before the final episode show that many people thought this was the moment that would solidify Kendal as Logan's heir. It seemed Kendal had proven he could be the next Logan. A cold and effective leader. But in the end, Kendal still failed. In the last episode, Kendall's only argument to Shiv was "I am the eldest boy." Proving he was never more than an entitled rich kid that would always crumble under pressure. Every season Kendal came close to reaching his dream, but he failed every time. Logan always knew Kendal didn't have what it takes to succeed him.
he's not exactly entitled either because he's actually worked for it, unlike his siblings. he wouldn't be bad at the job - but his mistake was that he trusted his siblings.
@@therealkendallroy he worked for it more then his siblings forsure but he never had what it takes, he always makes careless mistakes and his plans are on the fly and unorganized, were as mattson and logan are soo methodical that even when they have a slip up they recover becuase they have the foundation set, kendalls not like this and he also doesnt have a real vision for the companys future hes not passionate about building something hes passionate about being the man(ceo) logan and mattson reallt care about there ideas and creations which fuels there every move, when all your motivated by is being ceo and nothing more your most likely gonna fail
Every now and then, Kendall would rise to the occasion and give us a taste of what he could have became. There was never any in-between with Kendall. He either hit a grand slam, or burst into flames.
this is such a complicated speech. The first time I saw it, when just watching the show, I thought it was downright beautiful and impenetrable. The second time I see it, I see the manipulations and attacks, amongst the figurings and wonderings.. This is a very complicated speech, scene, it hits many angles, and Jeremy Strong executed all nuances of it masterfully. There are so very many thing to interpret here. What a damn excellent job. And not just from him, but the siblings as well. Culkin and Snook are just as vital. Everyone in this show stole the screen. The shot of the coffin when Roman starts to break down, the silence of the audience after Shiv opens herself up, Babe guy telling his thoughts and then considering what the kids have to say: everything about this episode was so revealing and masterful. I can't speak enough to it. This whole damn show is something to really think about
It’s mind blowing to me that some people found this episode to be slow and boring. Ken’s speech here and him getting Hugo to be his woof woof alone make this episode better than 95% of anything else on TV.
Kendall’s trying to embody his father so his father’s not gone. When alive, Kendall tried to compete with his father. So accurate to father and sons, and when the former dies. One can switch on a dime after they go.
Kendall really took a page out of Hamlet, didn’t he? To be, or not to be, that is the question: Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, Or to take arms against a sea of troubles And by opposing end them. To die-to sleep, No more; and by a sleep to say we end The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks That flesh is heir to: 'tis a consummation Devoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep; To sleep, perchance to dream-ay, there's the rub: For in that sleep of death what dreams may come, When we have shuffled off this mortal coil, Must give us pause-there's the respect That makes calamity of so long life. For who would bear the whips and scorns of time, Th'oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely, The pangs of dispriz'd love, the law's delay, The insolence of office, and the spurns That patient merit of th'unworthy takes, When he himself might his quietus make With a bare bodkin? Who would fardels bear, To grunt and sweat under a weary life, But that the dread of something after death, The undiscovere'd country, from whose bourn No traveller returns, puzzles the will, And makes us rather bear those ills we have Than fly to others that we know not of? Thus conscience doth make cowards of us all, And thus the native hue of resolution Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought, And enterprises of great pith and moment With this regard their currents turn awry And lose the name of action.
for those who say that kendall isn't logan or whatever, Jeremy Strong says on the podcast that this ceremony isn't just Logan's funeral; it's also Kendall's coronation. Kendall is starting to prove that he's his father's son - the Logan in "KLR" is standing out.
If Ken gets CEO, then its a tragic circle of a man choosing power over his childern. I have a feeling Ken's past transgressions ruin him. Roman is done, and Shiv, whom I was rooting for since S1 looks lost. No idea how this finale is going to go
I think Kendall was diminished by trying to be his dad’s clone all his life but he had his own unique force and personality that could go very far in life if he was raised differently. Kendall truly was the worthiest child of Logan but alas he was raised spoiled rotten.
This was such a great piece of acting. Ewan eviscerated Logan, told the unvarnished truth, and Ken needed to prop the man up, as if just "acting" is some sort of saving grace on a life of evil. Ken has so meekly given up all vestiges of his humanity, finally becoming the tyrant king he once hated. The prospect of power was always too alluring, too intoxicating, that Ken felt the need to make a legend out of a man who tortured and abused him for his entire life.
i come back to watch this occasionally when i need some life kicked into me. one of my favorite scenes of television, realistically imperfect monologue yet written so perfectly... "ships, steel hulls" "amen to that" fucking beautiful. reminds me of parts nietszche and parts virginia woolf. incredibly, almost defensively, life-affirming in the face of a melancholic and perhaps unanswerable question towards the sometimes brutal bustle of modernity that one cannot escape, as kendall could not escape his father. "he was comfortable with this world and he knew it. he knew it and he liked it." enough to make a grown man cry. kendall could be a killer but ultimately, he was always going to be a tragic figure. poor guy, great character
This was as much a funeral for Logan as it was for Roman’s shot at the chair. Kendall is bathing in the chalice’s poison at this point. Roman’s done, and Ken knows it. Absolutely harrowing.
This was Kendall’s moment! He proved right there that he is the one. It was great that he actually said the truth about his dad. Did not hide it! He was amazing in this role. The other three siblings could not talk like he did. I hope Kendall wins he deserves it.
It's funny how Roman enters the church thinking is powerful and " the man" and at the end Kedall leaves the church being as the actual powerful one, and Roman gets reduced as criying little boy.
@@noneofthiseverhappened Not everyone would. The only reason Roman broke down at this moment is because he tried to ignore his grief from the get go. It catches up sooner or later.
he starts the episode 'riding high' literally in his highrise apartment lording over the protestors and he ends the episode down on the ground getting attacked by the protestors
Oh yeah, it's so funny when people suffer and cry. Especially at the funerals when their parent is dead. Nothing is this life tastes better than sadism, violence and someone else's pain. On a scale from 1 to 10 how much did you enjoy that?
Something changed in Ken, it was like a small tweak because he had all the tools to be great, but now, it's like when Logan passed, something changed, maybe because his past losses or his father passing, he wants this, he's going for it, for real. Our #1 boy.
Tom has a legitimate shot at being more than the head of ATN. The writers really made an attempt to show Greg getting facetime with Mencken and talking up Tom's role on the ATN call. Mencken is a fan of Gojos influence and the idea of an American CEO, though he has reservations about Shiv's political views. Greg is getting tighter with Lukas and Tom with Mencken. Mencken might just ask for Tom as Waystars NA CEO.
Anyone else notice the parallel between Logan believing he was responsible for Rose’s death, and Kendall believing he was responsible for the waiter's death when they crashed the car?
If the show doesn’t blow this ending and Kendall comes out on top, it will be one of the greatest character arcs of all time. A character we have watched get thrown through the ringer, finally wins as he loses everything to become the man he thought he was better than
Please. Ken managed to alienate few people in this episode as naturally as breathing. There is no arc in terms of character development. He's still a spoiled rich kid like he was at the beginning. He just doesn't do drugs.
Wow, the shots of Shiv and Rome when Ken says, “my god I hope it’s in me” tell us everything we need to know about their sibling dynamic going forward. Shiv looks awestruck, almost proud. Rome snaps out of his lachrymose fit, sits up, then looks around as though there’s a chance no one noticed and he can still recover. Whether or not Ken wins the battle of Royco, he will go on to do great things in business. His priorities are completely fucked, but damn if he won’t make a brilliant CEO.
Shiv looked like she was thinking, “oh I see what you’re doing, time to step up my game.” I couldn’t gauge Roman’s reaction he looks equally impressed/apathetic
@Gabriel Idusogie Agreed. Shiv's expression to me says 'No Ken, you shouldn't want that', which is demonstrated by her emphasising Logan's misogyny in her eulogy immediately afterwards. We also see Kendall behave pretty fucking awfully towards Rava and Jess earlier in the episode. I believe there's a thread there. Shiv fears for her brother in that moment.
I think Shiv is horrified given the "poison drips through" conversation from the previous episode. Kendall going from wishing not to carry on his father's abusive legacy to announcing to the world that he wants to have that same "terrible force" in him is quite sad.
I like how the end half of this speech is Ken also realizing he is some of these things. And it's kind of terrifying, but also inspiring at the same time to him. Man this episode will go down as one of the greats of all time in television history.
My boy Squiggle cooked up this eulogy for me.
R to the IP
Lmao
😂😂😂😎😎👏🏾
This is why he’s the number one boy
IM THE ELDEST BOI
he missed his chance to rap the eulogy. he will never be ceo.
L to the OG sad boy redux
@@Chillw00 slowed and revered
“You’re not a killer MC.”
I honestly thought the same thing when I saw the episode haha.
Sucka MC
If Connor has his own eulogy, his speech would be look like this:
"My father was a man. When a man dies, everybody sad. My father lived for 80 years and he's not anymore. He had me and my three other siblings with three other wives including my mother, and now we're sad."
You misspelled "Connor Roy was interested in politics from a young age"
That was written by willa The playwright
@@trapptrappy6481 Written deliberately and specifically to be absolutely void of any value judgments lol
Sounds like ms Harris
😂😂😂Well that's because remember that Connor R9y was interested in Politics from a Very Young Age ya know😭😭
That was the final test.
Roman broke down
Shiv tried but nobody cared
Kendall had an ovation
Possibly...but one thing to remember is Tom wasn't there at all...he was running the company. Logan once criticized Kendall for going to his birthday party over running the company. Maybe in the end Tom is the one who passed the final test. We'll see if this take aged like wine or milk in a few days.
@@tomstreet2859 you expect the son who is the ceo to miss his own fathers funeral?
@@kremesauce hey it’s Logan man it’s a possibility
and you write this ROFL
@@kremesauce No I expect Logan would have respected that.
“He was comfortable with this world and he knew it… and he liked it”. Best line in the show. This show was masterful.
Only at Logan Roy’s funeral could a show of genuine grief be regarded as unnatural, embarrassing, and wrong. When I die, I would like there to be someone reacting to my death like Roman did.
It’s crazy huh? I’ve seen a few comments that belittled Roman for expressing grieve over his father and to me that’s so wild. If that’s not an example of toxic masculinity at its best idk what is. It reminded me of my own reaction when I was burying my mother. People told me to “not take too long to be sad” and expected me to have the “appropriate” amount of emotions. But all I wanted to do was kick them in the face and then cry some more.
I don't think it was grief from his love for his father. It was Roman was triggered by Ewan's recollection of the abuse that Logan suffered and it reminded him of what he suffered from his father. It was an insane mix of love and hate and repressed memories flooding back and overwhelming him.
@@paulscoffone8331 so grief. He was grieving.
No one thought it was unnatural. However, in this business, people will not follow you if you cannot keep your composure in difficult situations. It’s ruthless, but Kendall proved he is much more qualified by nailing this moment and being strong. Unfortunately, that’s just the way this succession world works.
Watching Kendall’s again, it did feel less authentic and more of a facade “I have to do this a certain way for the business.”
Shiv’s was a bit more real
If there ever was a manifesto for capitalism this speech would be it.
the wealth of nations by Adam Smith my guy
oh yeah, even after death ppl are still hungry for your wealth
I think it drew inspiration from the "money is the root of all evil" soliloquoy in Atlas Shrugged
@@iMbaKunkkaAdam Smith was a mercantilist who believed the pursuit of wealth was driven by nations. Capitalism is a philosophy based in wealth of the individual.
@@iMbaKunkka This is a bad example. An actual good example would be the speech about money in atlas shrugged
The way Ewan (Logan’s brother) is looking at Ken during and particularly after his speech… it’s like he’s just beginning to see that Ken is the reincarnation of Logan. It’s like a mix of respect and terror. Amazing.
Respect + Terror are two sides of the same coin, and perfectly describe Logan.
@@illijah Respect and terror are absolutely not two sides of the same coin. One can go without the other. Only respect without terror is fine, but terror without respect will just make everyone try to rip you apart.
@@frname7665 They are linked. If the person I respected the most suddenly became my enemy, I'd fear them. Terror is a bad thing, but that's why it's the other side of respect.
Did Ewan have any respect for Logan?
I don't think Ken is the reincarnation of Logan and he knows he isn't. He said that to Logan himself in their last dinner together: I'm better than you, you're evil, I'm not.
A month after the finale I find myself revisiting this scene constantly. I truly believe this is the greatest performance in television history. A simultaneously horrifying and moving speech from Jeremy Strong. “The corpuscles of life gushing around this nation, this world, filling men and women all around with desire. Quickening the ambition to own, and make, and trade, and profit, and build, and improve. Great geysers of life he willed”. Simply masterful writing that really encapsulates the Roy family’s way of thinking. What a fucking show. I already dearly miss it.
It’s incredible how so many scenes from this show can be put on a list of amazing acting performances and all of them can make a case for it. This show was incredible and I’m glad I watched from the first season.
if you think bumbling idiot kendall's speech is the greatest scene in television history, i feel bad for you, but to each their own. You should really watch The Expanse, season 2, episode 5. THAT is one of the greatest scenes in tv history.
@@TVGGAMEZCOthis is better than the extendables you mention. The greatest? No. But pretty darn good thanks hope this helps have a Great weekend 👌
@@TVGGAMEZCO not even close
@@TVGGAMEZCOI feel bad for you, only a true dunce would compare that garbage to this masterpiece
Going into this episode I had my doubts about whether the writers could create a eulogy that was both emotionally resonant and unflinchingly honest. They not only pulled it off, but Jeremy Strong delivered it beautifully beat by beat. I did not expect to cry in this episode but this got me. He just secured his second Emmy with this scene
Kierans coming in strong as well but I think that’s it’s almost certain one of them will be walking up on the stage in September (don’t have that much hope for Bob)
@@harryfrischdon’t they end up in different categories? Isn’t Jeremy Strong technically the “lead” while Kieran is technically supporting?
@@williamkelley1971 Yea Kieran was nominated in the supporting category in 2020 and 2022 so we got hope for two Ws for him and Jeremy
@@pinheadlarry8688 I think no matter what Jeremy wins for lead and then Kieran, Sarah, and Matthew have the real battle for supporting.
And then finale came and Jeremy acting outdo himself and outclassed everyone with one of the greatest television performance of all time , 💯 second emmy for currently best actor working today Jeremy strong
The thing I admired about Kendall the most: he had the gift of gab and could deliver in a pinch.
This is a game-tying pinch hit grand slam in the bottom of ninth. Kendall has gone from the guy striking out in the late innings to the one capable of getting the crowd on their feet. Wow.
Yep. Logan’s spiritual successor to be sure.
On an 0-2 count with 2 outs. He came in as pinch hitter. And hit it a country mile. The prince that was promised was always gonna win.
Need a translation from American here)
@VAS Vas it's just a metaphor for how Kendall would typically lose at the final moments, but now he just staved off defeat and set himself up for victory.
@@Sponhexagonal Ken was always the only Roy competent enough to fill that role
that moment when Caroline got salty at "he made me and my three siblings"
I cackled. Such a perfectly placed moment of levity.
Well she is a mother.
@@Anicius_ was she though??
@@Anicius_ Calling her a mother is kind of a stretch
@@krokodil7057 A woman who gives a birth becomes a mother. That is what i meant. Jesus. Even though her behavior makes it seem like she doesn't care, the maternal instinct for one's children is still present, and it sublimates unconsciously one's feelings. She does feel for at least shiv. Theres a good amount of literature on this. Calling her salty was a Stretch, you can't expect a person to remain naive in such an environment.
“Life is not knights on horseback, it’s a fight for a knife in the mud, a number on a piece of paper, not many can do what I do” - Logan Roy to Kendall Roy
cant believe jeremy strong invented acting
Believe it!
"A boy never really becomes a man until he's buried his father". We saw the final transformation of Kendal when they exit the mausoleum/cript. From there on, he is Logan 2.0. The way he tells Roman "You fucked it" without any empathy after he pretty much colapsed during the eulogy. And the cherry on the cake of the transformation was Kendals disinderested "mhm" to Roman during the same conversation, which Logan used constantly, when someone explained something or gave an excuse, but he literally did not care.
Good observation
He's been transforming into Logan 2.0 since his father's death.
He started backstabbing his sibilings, just as Logan would.
He has doubled down on the neglect of his children, as Logan did; he even started saying "I do all of this for my children", a phrase Logan used a lot.
Kendall criticized Logan's business model as dependant of "seducing presidents", and yet he purposely gave Mencken the election to guarantee the death of Mattson's deal.
He is becoming Logan, and doesn't know it.
In last episode, he pushed his siblings to choose Mecken and then in Logan's house for awakening, Mecken ignored him and mocked him as "The Grim Weeper" and Roman was totally surprised that he realized that Mecken isn't taking him seriously anymore.
3:52 Shiv's realization that Kendall is performing well and that she has to show her face if she wants to stay in the game
"But I hope it's in me" is what bothered her. Kenny saw the chance and took it. Shiv, like her mother, is just too salty all the time. 100% ambition, 0% brain.
But Snook obviously knocked it out of the park.
Shiv was so annoying in the last couple of episodes
@@kunalbilaney1188didn't you see roman's expression changing too, if it was a man you would be waiting for the competition to unfold too, like always shiv haters are salty about her whole role without logic. She was the smartest, she already had a better backup plan than an emotional brother with some capitalist speech
@@attackonweebsshe was not dumb but she wasnt definitely the smartest lol
@@gordongekko9742 among the siblings she definitely was
This series would have been nothing without Jeremy Strong. Absolutely stunning performance.
I was so fucking pissed at the fact that every sibling had a chance to talk except Connor. And he even had an eulogy ready!! 😭 I know for certain it would be some stupid shit but come on let my boy SPEAK
Had to be intentional…. They let him have his concession speech at least😂
Today. Logan Roy is dead. All of us will die one day. When we die, it is sad. In the case it’s Logan Roy who will do so
Right? I mean someone could have gone up there with him to keep him in check. Connor is always the outsider. Its sad.
His family are so cruel and callous - just like Logan. I hope he gets at least a moral victory over them by the end of the next episode.
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This speech, like so much of the writing in the show, was a masterclass of messy eloquence. Stirring writing and acting.
The shot of Ken after the eulogies as he's walking down the aisle and everyone stands up to shake his hand with a reasured smile on their faces as the music swells is so great. It's like his coronation and everyone feels relieved to put their future in his hands, like a new worthy King replacing an old one. Could've ended the show on that scene.
YES! I thought the exact same thing. I keep bringing up Rheas read on the kids. And how logan and her both told Ken it was him. Logans speech to him at the beach came up too. I really hope Ken wins it all but I think he'll lose himself to it.
@@charityetzkorn4710 I've never "rooted" for any of the characters, but Ken becoming CEO will be the only really narratively satisfying conclusion imo. Other than that, they could have all the sibs lose and Tom getting brought in as an experienced and competent Yes-man puppet CEO under Mattson and Mencken's thumb, but as much as I love Macfadyen I'd feel very cheated if that happens. Anything other than that would just be disappointing shock value for the sake of throwing a twist curveball, hope they don't go for that.
@@johncra8982 hate to break it to you but it's greg
@@jamesmanner9657 they make Tom CEO to shit on the siblings. Then just as Tom is settling in they send Greg into his office to fire him. Greg now runs the world. Shakespeare eats his heart out.
@@johncra8982 hahaha that would be great 😂
Kendall Roy is on the Mt. Rushmore of television, shoulder to shoulder with Don Draper, Tony Soprano and Walter White. Our #1 boy.
that penis?
Even though I love Succession with all my heart, I have to disagree. Those 3 are untouchable
go outside and touch grass
@@miseendriste6337 did you just learn a new expression little boy?
@Al We spent more time with Walter so we got to know him better but the depth and complexity of Kendall is very much on par with him I think. In fact Kendall is so much more nuanced and realstic in his transformation. Walter goes from a meek science teacher to a comic book villain by the end. Just watch his last scene in Better Call Saul, great performance but really over the top by that point.
Please watch the other shows I mentioned, they're phenomenal! Should be on everyone's bucket list.
Kendall is Logan 2.0. If he can’t win in the end, none of the siblings can
i agree, i cannot see anyone else on top tbh
Tom will win. The deal will go through
Tom is the wild card
Yeah, no one wins. They get cut out of the whole thing (again)
@@bregowine tom winning is being able to remain as the head of ATN. I don't see any path at all to him becoming CEO of the entire company. Maaaybe as some sort of compromise if Shiv is indisposed and the deal goes through. But i doubt it.
Since season 1 I’ve known kendall was the best fit for CEO if available. He’s got SO many problems. But he’s proven over and over he THRIVES under pressure when neither of his siblings can stand tall.
Which is so ironic because in normal scenarios he comes across as fumbling and insecure. But when the light is on he completely transforms, the opposite is true for Roman.
That’s actually the case with a lot of people with anxiety: they crumble under normal, trivial events. But when things go crazy they’re able to handle it somehow. I can’t speak for everyone, it’s just what I go through with my anxieties.
He's always been the guy but his greatest weakness is he can't "kill" his father because he loves him so much. Now that Logan is dead, nothing can stop Kendall from taking the company.
@@rishabhaniket1952Very common. He has good instincts, it’s just that he can never truly rely on them until he’s under pressure with no ability to overthink the situation.
Ken always thrives when it’s business. He was phenomenal during the hearings also. Living+ was obv great. It’s when he’s being triggered personally by his family that he crumbles. The BDay Party night and Shiv’s wretched public letter about him are two examples.
Number one boy. I hope he's victorious in the end. He's the only killer.
I think he will be, but he might lose his family in the process
Lol, you obviously was abused as a kid if you think that being a "killer" is cool. It's always the weakest and most spineless people who praise violence and abuse and believe it's "cool".
womp womp :((
Kendall has come to terms with the terrible love of his father.
tragically beautiful
Maybe he doesn't love him anymore but he has come to terms with what comes?
Jeremy strong himself called this moment for Kendall his coronation day. When it comes to significant moments for Kendall, he always does his best when things aren’t planned. Every time he’s screwed up, it’s because he psyched himself. But this was completely in the moment, unplanned. Kendall has his father’s “vim”.
I mean he psyched himself for his Living+ speech and it went well. The changing factor is that he feels he's got his father's approval (thinking, rightly so imo, that it was indeed an underlining in ep. 4) and it allows him to truly become himself.
@Frname But he also was challenged from afar by Lucas during the speech, and managed to freestyle an answer that made Lucas look childish and unprofessional.
Can't always trust Strong's take on the scene -- he's SUCH a method actor that he literally sees through Kendall's eyes with zero objectivity. Kendall thought this was his "coronation," and thus so does Jeremy Strong. Personally, I think this was a merely passable performance by Kendall, a success where everyone expected failure (just like his Living+ presentation).
Love the scene and Strong's performance regardless.
Notice how often Kendall uses words like “life” and “living” and “growth” in his father’s eulogy.
As a cope! He is saying life and growth but he really means selfishness and conquest.
That last line always hits home for me. Aside from who Logan was, what a beautiful way to describe someone. “He was comfortable with this world, and he knew it.. and he liked it.”
Kendall totally took Ewan's word and used it to make Logan great again, ON THE FLY!!! Gangsta
L to the OG
Something I never noticed before what Shiv being taken aback by Kendall saying “by God, I hope it’s in me”: Ken spent so long resenting the man he tried to be to appeal to Logan, and now he’s embracing it, which almost scares her
I’ve been rooting for him since the beginning.
Same here
No matter what he did ...he was always KENADALL LOGAN ROY
Me too. He at least cared about others and had a conscious plus he actually had job experience and was hardworking
Ugh when u watch this n knowing the ending… breaks my heart
Started out a bit shaky, which is understandable, but Kendall has proven time and again that he can perform on the spot. His usual wordsalads full of lingo can feel all over the place, but it worked really well here
Kendall always nails the public speeches.
This is one of best scenes of any show in the history of television. The writing is uncanny.
The great thing about this scene is that the speech happened inside a church, but it was a prayer not to christian God, but for money God. He was honest, at least, but it shows that greed has no room for kindness
It was at this time that I realized Ken was the best fit for CEO.
It’s too late though.
@@weebabyshakeus I knew it since the end of episode 4 this season... It was plain as day then, especially with the theme over the credits, it was like the music was letting you know, everything starts from here with kendall.
1 episode before the finale?
Lol just now. It’s been him since the beginning
I knew he was the best fit when he gutted Vaulter. Cold, calculating, and ruthless. He always had it in him but it took a while with several more betrayals to harden him.
Amazing speech actually. Also I love the cut to Caroline when he says their father made him and his siblings.
And he apologized. Perfect!
Caroline is such a phenomenal character. The way you see SO MUCH of the siblings whole history from just a few seconds of her performance, it all makes sense why they are the way they are. That little expression on her face there says so much, the resentment she must feel towards Logan always being the one everyone cares about, and at the same time how she's just unable to make any moment not about her... brilliant performance by Harriet Walter.
what really gets me here is this is one of the few times kendall just doesn't really stutter and it was all improvised
I like the smirks from Matsson and Mencken. They see how well Kendall is capitalizing on the PR opportunity.
3:02 Even if Logan was a shit parent, he was atleast at arms lenght, Caroline was barely a mother lmao
This is where Kendall won both Matsson and Mencken over. Those subtle smiles. I think even though Matsson is playing with the idea of Shiv as the American CEO at the end of the episode, I believe he’s playing the game until he can slip Kendall in instead.
Even if Mencken offered him CEO he would refuse it
@@realhillkellwhy on earth would he refuse the title he’s been gunning for?
@@TrueDetective94 because he doesn't like Mattson
@@TrueDetective94 he doesn't believe Mattson understands and respects Waystar Royco
I think maybe it may end up a merger deal that Logan originally went for. Mencken seemed to like Matsson as Matsson willing to share how algo work which can help Mencken to promote his ideology. I also think Mencken did not like Shiv at all and Matsson questioned Shiv ability.
Man, this was brilliant. The monologue, the acting, the camera cuts. Every second here tells a story.
Amazing to see Kendall becoming the man he loved and hated at the same time
“And I say Amen to that.” ABSOLUTE CHILLS. This show is truly in the top of the game.
This would've been the second time he made Logan proud in his whole life.
Kendall has been Logan’s biggest advisory…now that logans gone, Kendall has no opposition but himself. He’s been training against the best.
Adversary.
"And life, bloody complicated life"...what a line
I think it became aware from everybody in that room in that eulogy. That his father was actually holding him back.
his father was never holding him back, i’d say he was rather training him for this exact moment from the eulogy to his request to Hugo, to finally become a KLR.
That underline went from questionable to BOLD
Without even touching on the content of the speech itself, kudos to the writers for finding a completely natural way to drop three meaty, unbroken, true blue monologues right into the middle of this episode in such an organic way
Even for a show with such stylized language- working this kind of writing in (with due credit to the performance of course) without breaking the flow at all is so fucking beast
@@grahamarms8247 Excellent observation. It was very well-paced for sure.
I watched this at least 10 times since yesterday. For a son, coming to this realization is not easy.
I love that knowing look from Logan’s brother. He knows with this speech that Logan has secured his immortality through Kendall. Regardless of who ATN falls to, he has created someone earnestly capable of being as great and terrible as him
Love the focus shot on Mattson and Mencken; they acknowledge him as one of them.
"My God, you are addicted to action and slogans" (Frank Underwood)
One thing about Kendall is the man can put together a great speech
Agreed. Kendall reminds me of his Uncle at time, because his vocabulary is so unique, and at times it seems like he's almost pushing people away from his ideas because they don't understand his terminology. But I gotta give it up for him.. He is brilliant in the clutch, especially since he doesn't have Logan to kinda keep him down anymore.
It's as if the spirit of Logan possessed Kendall from this point forward and Kendall has truly become his father. His rise into the killer that Logan always wanted to be has been so satisfying, yet tragic. As Ewan said about Logan, Kendall has also stopped trying to be a good person.
It’s time to stop talking and it’s time to build. The world is complicated and messy when you are actually active in it. It’s only simple in theory.
I thought Kendall would think about it and return to being a good person. How wrong!!!
It’s weird but the part where he said “there are always a thousand reasons to not ACT” stuck with me and actually motivates me
You're an actor now?
@@mark5071 Maybe not an actor, but no longer an "afraid to act-or"
What’s so great about this is Kendall for once publicly didn’t give his bro vibe to the speech. Just his raw opinion was enough
Ken was so good here that everyone ignored he had snot coming out of him the entire time
Added to it
The sont was poetic what are you talking about lol
His fucking dad died
He really meant it, and despite everything, so did the writers.
big day for the poison dripping through
The comments written before the final episode show that many people thought this was the moment that would solidify Kendal as Logan's heir. It seemed Kendal had proven he could be the next Logan. A cold and effective leader. But in the end, Kendal still failed. In the last episode, Kendall's only argument to Shiv was "I am the eldest boy." Proving he was never more than an entitled rich kid that would always crumble under pressure.
Every season Kendal came close to reaching his dream, but he failed every time. Logan always knew Kendal didn't have what it takes to succeed him.
he's not exactly entitled either because he's actually worked for it, unlike his siblings. he wouldn't be bad at the job - but his mistake was that he trusted his siblings.
@@therealkendallroy he worked for it more then his siblings forsure but he never had what it takes, he always makes careless mistakes and his plans are on the fly and unorganized, were as mattson and logan are soo methodical that even when they have a slip up they recover becuase they have the foundation set, kendalls not like this and he also doesnt have a real vision for the companys future hes not passionate about building something hes passionate about being the man(ceo) logan and mattson reallt care about there ideas and creations which fuels there every move, when all your motivated by is being ceo and nothing more your most likely gonna fail
Every now and then, Kendall would rise to the occasion and give us a taste of what he could have became. There was never any in-between with Kendall. He either hit a grand slam, or burst into flames.
Listened to this 5 times before a 15 min presentation and delivered
this is such a complicated speech. The first time I saw it, when just watching the show, I thought it was downright beautiful and impenetrable. The second time I see it, I see the manipulations and attacks, amongst the figurings and wonderings.. This is a very complicated speech, scene, it hits many angles, and Jeremy Strong executed all nuances of it masterfully. There are so very many thing to interpret here. What a damn excellent job. And not just from him, but the siblings as well. Culkin and Snook are just as vital. Everyone in this show stole the screen. The shot of the coffin when Roman starts to break down, the silence of the audience after Shiv opens herself up, Babe guy telling his thoughts and then considering what the kids have to say: everything about this episode was so revealing and masterful. I can't speak enough to it. This whole damn show is something to really think about
It’s mind blowing to me that some people found this episode to be slow and boring. Ken’s speech here and him getting Hugo to be his woof woof alone make this episode better than 95% of anything else on TV.
Kendall’s trying to embody his father so his father’s not gone. When alive, Kendall tried to compete with his father. So accurate to father and sons, and when the former dies. One can switch on a dime after they go.
Kendall is the Michael Corleone of this family.
So many parallels! Him threatening Reva for his kids this episode. This Sunday is going to be a bloodbath.
Michael was more cunning and strategic.
Kendall really took a page out of Hamlet, didn’t he?
To be, or not to be, that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles
And by opposing end them. To die-to sleep,
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to: 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep;
To sleep, perchance to dream-ay, there's the rub:
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come,
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause-there's the respect
That makes calamity of so long life.
For who would bear the whips and scorns of time,
Th'oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely,
The pangs of dispriz'd love, the law's delay,
The insolence of office, and the spurns
That patient merit of th'unworthy takes,
When he himself might his quietus make
With a bare bodkin? Who would fardels bear,
To grunt and sweat under a weary life,
But that the dread of something after death,
The undiscovere'd country, from whose bourn
No traveller returns, puzzles the will,
And makes us rather bear those ills we have
Than fly to others that we know not of?
Thus conscience doth make cowards of us all,
And thus the native hue of resolution
Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought,
And enterprises of great pith and moment
With this regard their currents turn awry
And lose the name of action.
One of the great monologues of our time.
for those who say that kendall isn't logan or whatever, Jeremy Strong says on the podcast that this ceremony isn't just Logan's funeral; it's also Kendall's coronation. Kendall is starting to prove that he's his father's son - the Logan in "KLR" is standing out.
If Ken gets CEO, then its a tragic circle of a man choosing power over his childern. I have a feeling Ken's past transgressions ruin him. Roman is done, and Shiv, whom I was rooting for since S1 looks lost. No idea how this finale is going to go
Send the awards to this man right now and the entire cast for this episode was so complex emotionally and killer in execution.
Give an Emmy to Ken's snot or we riot.
I think Kendall was diminished by trying to be his dad’s clone all his life but he had his own unique force and personality that could go very far in life if he was raised differently. Kendall truly was the worthiest child of Logan but alas he was raised spoiled rotten.
This was such a great piece of acting. Ewan eviscerated Logan, told the unvarnished truth, and Ken needed to prop the man up, as if just "acting" is some sort of saving grace on a life of evil. Ken has so meekly given up all vestiges of his humanity, finally becoming the tyrant king he once hated. The prospect of power was always too alluring, too intoxicating, that Ken felt the need to make a legend out of a man who tortured and abused him for his entire life.
So true. A rare sane and intelligent comment.
just stellar writing. and as always a game changing performance from strong. this is like the villain monologue of capitalism.
I am in shock. I can't believe that next week will be the last episode of the best directed, written and acted series in the history of TV.
We're so lucky that we get to experience this work of art.
I swear..I am so stunned and scared to watch it all ...finally
Hey ,seems like you know good movies or shows
Could you recommend good ones like succession, I don't know what to watch after this 😢
My number 1 boy forever. The ending is a tradegy but the best they could have delivered
4:35 Uncle Ewan sure didn't see that coming. Neither did we.
i come back to watch this occasionally when i need some life kicked into me. one of my favorite scenes of television, realistically imperfect monologue yet written so perfectly... "ships, steel hulls" "amen to that" fucking beautiful. reminds me of parts nietszche and parts virginia woolf. incredibly, almost defensively, life-affirming in the face of a melancholic and perhaps unanswerable question towards the sometimes brutal bustle of modernity that one cannot escape, as kendall could not escape his father. "he was comfortable with this world and he knew it. he knew it and he liked it." enough to make a grown man cry. kendall could be a killer but ultimately, he was always going to be a tragic figure. poor guy, great character
really sad that the eulogy had to be about his career and couldn't be about whats really important, family.
It was because if it was about family, he would only have bad things to say.
This was as much a funeral for Logan as it was for Roman’s shot at the chair. Kendall is bathing in the chalice’s poison at this point. Roman’s done, and Ken knows it. Absolutely harrowing.
Kendall never had the makings of a varsity CEO.
This was Kendall’s moment! He proved right there that he is the one. It was great that he actually said the truth about his dad. Did not hide it! He was amazing in this role. The other three siblings could not talk like he did. I hope Kendall wins he deserves it.
It's funny how Roman enters the church thinking is powerful and " the man" and at the end Kedall leaves the church being as the actual powerful one, and Roman gets reduced as criying little boy.
Ok I mean who wouldn't be reduced to a crying little boy at their father's funeral? It's only natural.
Kendall is just built different.
@@noneofthiseverhappened Not everyone would. The only reason Roman broke down at this moment is because he tried to ignore his grief from the get go. It catches up sooner or later.
@@frname7665 I think his uncle's speech threw him off his game a little bit, and put him in his feels.
he starts the episode 'riding high' literally in his highrise apartment lording over the protestors and he ends the episode down on the ground getting attacked by the protestors
Oh yeah, it's so funny when people suffer and cry. Especially at the funerals when their parent is dead.
Nothing is this life tastes better than sadism, violence and someone else's pain.
On a scale from 1 to 10 how much did you enjoy that?
Something changed in Ken, it was like a small tweak because he had all the tools to be great, but now, it's like when Logan passed, something changed, maybe because his past losses or his father passing, he wants this, he's going for it, for real. Our #1 boy.
Nope, the showrunners threw it all out
Tom has a legitimate shot at being more than the head of ATN. The writers really made an attempt to show Greg getting facetime with Mencken and talking up Tom's role on the ATN call.
Mencken is a fan of Gojos influence and the idea of an American CEO, though he has reservations about Shiv's political views. Greg is getting tighter with Lukas and Tom with Mencken. Mencken might just ask for Tom as Waystars NA CEO.
Anyone else notice the parallel between Logan believing he was responsible for Rose’s death, and Kendall believing he was responsible for the waiter's death when they crashed the car?
Wow, such a cool detail you noticed 😳
@@omg9261 Thanks 🙂
I mean, it's not eulogy for Lester, but still pretty good
One of my favorite and most powerful scenes in the whole show. After this episode, Jeremy and Kieran are gonna be neck and neck for this Emmy.
I was, am, and will be rooting for Kendall. And yes, Logan's force is in Ken. Even though it's his lifetime punishment.
If the show doesn’t blow this ending and Kendall comes out on top, it will be one of the greatest character arcs of all time. A character we have watched get thrown through the ringer, finally wins as he loses everything to become the man he thought he was better than
Please. Ken managed to alienate few people in this episode as naturally as breathing. There is no arc in terms of character development. He's still a spoiled rich kid like he was at the beginning. He just doesn't do drugs.
@@tomaszpiechowski23 found a better drug
Tom won
@@hardikphotos9813 correction: Tom "won"
Ending blown
HE DIDNT BREAK THE CYCLE💔☹️
Wow, the shots of Shiv and Rome when Ken says, “my god I hope it’s in me” tell us everything we need to know about their sibling dynamic going forward. Shiv looks awestruck, almost proud. Rome snaps out of his lachrymose fit, sits up, then looks around as though there’s a chance no one noticed and he can still recover. Whether or not Ken wins the battle of Royco, he will go on to do great things in business. His priorities are completely fucked, but damn if he won’t make a brilliant CEO.
Shiv is not proud in my opinion. She’s horrified
Shiv looked like she was thinking, “oh I see what you’re doing, time to step up my game.” I couldn’t gauge Roman’s reaction he looks equally impressed/apathetic
@Gabriel Idusogie Agreed. Shiv's expression to me says 'No Ken, you shouldn't want that', which is demonstrated by her emphasising Logan's misogyny in her eulogy immediately afterwards. We also see Kendall behave pretty fucking awfully towards Rava and Jess earlier in the episode. I believe there's a thread there. Shiv fears for her brother in that moment.
@@mattb2704 No it’s Shiv realizing “Shit, he’s killing it. I absolutely need to speak too if I’m gonna keep myself in the race for CEO.”
I think Shiv is horrified given the "poison drips through" conversation from the previous episode. Kendall going from wishing not to carry on his father's abusive legacy to announcing to the world that he wants to have that same "terrible force" in him is quite sad.
I like how the end half of this speech is Ken also realizing he is some of these things. And it's kind of terrifying, but also inspiring at the same time to him. Man this episode will go down as one of the greats of all time in television history.
Kendall: "I don't want to be you"
Also Kendall: "My God, I hope it's in me"
I am killing myself in front of Jesse Armstrong
"You are kind of evil"
"I'm better than you"
"I love you but I can't forgive you"
Kendall now:
God I hope I'm like dad
I'm not immune to cult leader Kendall Roy