I'd like to recommend that when raising or lowering gauge through the tank opening, place one hand on the tank while using the other to hold the gauge. This will help eliminate a static charge differential between the gauge and the tank.
I'm trying to replace one of those same valves but mine is shaped off and can't find any tool that can remove the broken off valve due to a built in spring valve in side the pipe any suggestions my tanks not been used for proper in years had been converted to a bulk air tank but they just drilled a second hole and put in a air valve now that it's been moved to my new place and was hit getting it off the truck the valve snaped off need it removed to replace it with a cap to hold air again
Hi, do you know if when you shut the valve off if it shuts gas off to the whole valve body or just the outlet pigtail. i may have a small leak on the side oppisite the shut off handle near the plastic cap
Mike, it only shuts off the pig tail. if you have a leak, i offer this advise. have a propane company pull the propane, fix the leak and then return the propane. it costs less than losing what you have. i found my valve on ebay for about 40-60 more than it cost locally, and in texas we can repair our own stuff. i don't know if you can do that, but a service charge to fix this would have been about 125 before biden got into office. i have no idea what it would cost now. i think i paid about 70=75 for it, and the socket i had to get to break it out. total was under 103. labor....none, i had no child in the repair of the tank. it has been holding pressure since about a week before i put that video up. i had a lot of folks tell me i needed yellow tape, but in the oil field i used the exact same thing here for pressure equal to, or exceeding this value. but follow your state's guidlines for insurance reasons.
it took a while to get the info, (i'm a full time student and mom to 13 dogs, a dad to the same number) the pig tail is a 3/4 inch thread with a 3/8 inch copper tubing off of it. if i can help further, let me know. last night for the first time in some years, a few coyotes came up the fence and were sticking thier heads in and my dogs were licking their faces and if my dogs stuck their head through the coyotes were licking them i had never seen this before. i know that they will sometimes play together but sometimes the coyotes are hungry and it is not good
i got it at a local store, i can give you the address and phone number. this is the info you will need. the valve will have a number on it, and that will give the size of the gasket. on this tank, going by memory and not looking at the video, it seemed it was recessed about 1/8 of an inch. the gasket was a flat rubber, and i wondered if it would fit, and it did. when you contact them if you wish to go this route, have the number of that valve on top so that they can look up the replacement valve size. the valves are exactly alike in my case, just new numbers. i paid about 2 to 3 dollars for the valve from whenever it was posted to now, it is still holding pressure without leaking this is the place (903) 723-6222
oh hang, you asked about the gage, i'm doing a thousand different things. the gage is magnetic, it does not have a gasket or seal..... been digging a 1 yard pit for drilling a well, the sun got to me
yes, for 3 days open to atmospheric pressure. any pressure at all will put great stress on the threads when you try to open it, which would result in death if your lucky, and worse if not, as it would come apart explosively with or without detonation.
When wanted to service my tank and it was full I was told the only way to empty the tank was to use like three big weed burners and just burn up the gas. There was NO WAY to pump out a tank as there was no bottom valve.
nelson propane in palestine texas. make sure you measure carefully the diameter of the opening and the thickness of the gaskets. also a photo of the part will help. the gas dial works on a magnet that is under it, so getting the size is important. i wondered how they worked and thought it was genius. one think to keep in mind, the gage has an orientation to it. if you get it backwards, it will read incorrectly. but you just turn it since it is not part of the pressure hull, unless it is held in place by the machine thread screws that hold the pressure plate of the gage on.
@@davidtreibs122 the call numbers on the valve and that sort of stuff will have changed but they can look that up. that is what they did for me. by law, a tank can only be filled if it has the original label on it. so don't let it get lost
Why not just replace the broken piece instead of changing the whole valve? It's either a 19104 50 bonnet or I think it's a 8100 I forget the rest of the numbers..
@@tracker1ify well that is all well and good. however when i was looking, i did not find your sight so i got what i could. understand, i have limited time, i'm in school, i have a full time job, i have a full time family, and i have to do all my internet searches in the intermittent breaks i have. right now i'm waiting on a massive storm to hit so i'm looking at fracking water for hydrogen all things in their time and place
If your gauge didn't work and your shut off valve was broke, how did you know the tank was empty? Not sure if anyone cares but, there is a yellow teflon tape meant for natural gas and propane lines.
the valve would not shut off, that is how i knew it was broken and empty. as for the yellow, i do have some, and the tank is holding pressure however long ago i put it back together. good info on the yellow teflon tape
the one i had, i slid in and it rested on a gasket. a propane company can pump your tank dry and then you vent it to air for a time before you work on it. then you may have to talk to the gas company but yellow Teflon might be the fix, and you may need a gasket as i did. you need to check your state laws on repair however as some companies may not be able to fill your tank if you worked on it.
Thanks. Useful information well presented.
I'd like to recommend that when raising or lowering gauge through the tank opening, place one hand on the tank while using the other to hold the gauge. This will help eliminate a static charge differential between the gauge and the tank.
good advice, had it had the stoiometric right, i would not be posting this. but very good advice for those viewing, seriously, thanks for posting.
I'm trying to replace one of those same valves but mine is shaped off and can't find any tool that can remove the broken off valve due to a built in spring valve in side the pipe any suggestions my tanks not been used for proper in years had been converted to a bulk air tank but they just drilled a second hole and put in a air valve now that it's been moved to my new place and was hit getting it off the truck the valve snaped off need it removed to replace it with a cap to hold air again
Thought it was pretty interesting on how your sleeve knocked over the gasket
you should see a 125 pound shepherd help me fix things
Hi, do you know if when you shut the valve off if it shuts gas off to the whole valve body or just the outlet pigtail. i may have a small leak on the side oppisite the shut off handle near the plastic cap
Mike, it only shuts off the pig tail. if you have a leak, i offer this advise. have a propane company pull the propane, fix the leak and then return the propane. it costs less than losing what you have.
i found my valve on ebay for about 40-60 more than it cost locally, and in texas we can repair our own stuff. i don't know if you can do that, but a service charge to fix this would have been about 125 before biden got into office. i have no idea what it would cost now. i think i paid about 70=75 for it, and the socket i had to get to break it out. total was under 103. labor....none, i had no child in the repair of the tank.
it has been holding pressure since about a week before i put that video up. i had a lot of folks tell me i needed yellow tape, but in the oil field i used the exact same thing here for pressure equal to, or exceeding this value. but follow your state's guidlines for insurance reasons.
thank you, vid was very good
@@dysfunctional_vet hey thanks for the help, i need a tank fill gauge. see the video if you know what i need.ruclips.net/video/DVqfI4zWSXM/видео.html
Hello, What is the size of the shut-off valve? I want to purchase a pigtail pipe for it. Is it POL? Thanks
i will have to check, but i am thinking it was a 3/4 inch thread, the copper tubing is something i will have to also check for you as soon as i can.
it took a while to get the info, (i'm a full time student and mom to 13 dogs, a dad to the same number)
the pig tail is a 3/4 inch thread with a 3/8 inch copper tubing off of it.
if i can help further, let me know.
last night for the first time in some years, a few coyotes came up the fence and were sticking thier heads in and my dogs were licking their faces and if my dogs stuck their head through the coyotes were licking them i had never seen this before. i know that they will sometimes play together but sometimes the coyotes are hungry and it is not good
were did you get the seal or gasket for sealing the gauge to the tank?
i got it at a local store, i can give you the address and phone number.
this is the info you will need. the valve will have a number on it, and that will give the size of the gasket.
on this tank, going by memory and not looking at the video, it seemed it was recessed about 1/8 of an inch. the gasket was a flat rubber, and i wondered if it would fit, and it did.
when you contact them if you wish to go this route, have the number of that valve on top so that they can look up the replacement valve size. the valves are exactly alike in my case, just new numbers.
i paid about 2 to 3 dollars for the valve
from whenever it was posted to now, it is still holding pressure without leaking
this is the place (903) 723-6222
oh hang, you asked about the gage, i'm doing a thousand different things. the gage is magnetic, it does not have a gasket or seal.....
been digging a 1 yard pit for drilling a well, the sun got to me
Was your tank empty when you changed the valve
yes, for 3 days open to atmospheric pressure. any pressure at all will put great stress on the threads when you try to open it, which would result in death if your lucky, and worse if not, as it would come apart explosively with or without detonation.
When wanted to service my tank and it was full I was told the only way to empty the tank was to use like three big weed burners and just burn up the gas. There was NO WAY to pump out a tank as there was no bottom valve.
i will have to call the company and ask how they do that. be patient
Where did you buy the parts? I need to rebuild a similar tank.
nelson propane in palestine texas. make sure you measure carefully the diameter of the opening and the thickness of the gaskets. also a photo of the part will help.
the gas dial works on a magnet that is under it, so getting the size is important. i wondered how they worked and thought it was genius.
one think to keep in mind, the gage has an orientation to it. if you get it backwards, it will read incorrectly. but you just turn it since it is not part of the pressure hull, unless it is held in place by the machine thread screws that hold the pressure plate of the gage on.
@@dysfunctional_vet The tank was made in 1952, if I read the label correctly.
@@davidtreibs122 the call numbers on the valve and that sort of stuff will have changed but they can look that up. that is what they did for me.
by law, a tank can only be filled if it has the original label on it. so don't let it get lost
I got a 250 gallon propane tank what Valve should I get
is there a valve on it?
Doesn’t propane require yellow Teflon?
when i pulled the thing out of the tank, it did not have tape or thread dope
oh ya, it has been holding pressure without leaking since i posted the video, however long that has been.
That kind of Teflon tape is only good for water lines, You need the yellow Teflon tape that's good for gas lines
Not true, yellow is just thicker Mil Tape, and yellow to identify a gas line from other things.
Wrong white tape is good for gas, water or air
Why not just replace the broken piece instead of changing the whole valve? It's either a 19104 50 bonnet or I think it's a 8100 I forget the rest of the numbers..
it is no longer made and parts are not for sale
@@dysfunctional_vet who told you that lie
@@tracker1ify every dealer i called with zero exception
@@dysfunctional_vet That's interesting. Consider and I have a ben full of them and can order more
@@tracker1ify well that is all well and good. however when i was looking, i did not find your sight so i got what i could.
understand, i have limited time, i'm in school, i have a full time job, i have a full time family, and i have to do all my internet searches in the intermittent breaks i have. right now i'm waiting on a massive storm to hit so i'm looking at fracking water for hydrogen
all things in their time and place
If your gauge didn't work and your shut off valve was broke, how did you know the tank was empty? Not sure if anyone cares but, there is a yellow teflon tape meant for natural gas and propane lines.
the valve would not shut off, that is how i knew it was broken and empty. as for the yellow, i do have some, and the tank is holding pressure however long ago i put it back together.
good info on the yellow teflon tape
My gauge is leaking by the threads but my garage screws in
the one i had, i slid in and it rested on a gasket.
a propane company can pump your tank dry and then you vent it to air for a time before you work on it. then you may have to talk to the gas company but yellow Teflon might be the fix, and you may need a gasket as i did.
you need to check your state laws on repair however as some companies may not be able to fill your tank if you worked on it.