Yeah it honestly is so funny and concerning the amount of people Who think this is wrong as they almost all have scammed/ gambled them selfs. The world is a scary place
@@johnwall7190no one gives a shit about this guy. People are mad that btcs took $1 trillion gp from his community that trusted him. These fights are intended to be 50/50
They're glad it's more shady and underground. They got too much negative attention for having an area that their own players called the sand casino. That's not good for their business.
@@themosthighvaluemaninthega9048 they cant control what the players do. if they want to risk billions of gp fighting each other with only two items that's not jagex's fault. TF are you guys even on?
@@cosanostra4229 I'll sum it up for you and the simpleton who made the original comment: 1. Jagex unintentionally design a minigame that facilitates gambling. 2. Players start gambling. 3. Jagex realizes that they do not want to be associated with gambling, so they remove the minigame. 4. Simpletons: 'They took away duel and made gambling even more underground and shady. Gg gagex' Yes. That's the point. They don't want anything to do with gambling.
@@themosthighvaluemaninthega9048 exactly. That's why I said they can't control what the players do. The fact that the players continue to do stuff like this has nothing to do with jagex making a mistake. The reality of the situation is....removing the duel arena was a bit of an overreach for a couple reasons. The fact that players call it the sand casino doesn't make it gambling. Also it didn't really change anything, if anything it made it worse and this video has evidence of it getting worse.
@@cosanostra4229 'The reality of the situation is....removing the duel arena was a bit of an overreach for a couple reasons.' An overreach? Why? You only mention one. Your first "reason" is just a false statement, and your "second" reason is also false. 'The fact that players call it the sand casino doesn't make it gambling.' True. I could call a Big Mac a casino and that wouldn't make it gambling either. But two players challenging each other to a naked whip fight to see whose RNG hits prevail is literally gambling. Lol. You realise that slot machines, blackjack, the lottery, scratch cards, etc... are all RNG generators? 'Also it didn't really change anything, if anything it made it worse and this video has evidence of it getting worse.' I just wrote a comment explaining why it did indeed change things.You could not be more wrong by saying it changes nothing. Your train of thought is saying: "But people are still gambling! So you're wrong! Now it's worse! Lol..... I don't understand how you can't understand this. Jagex as a business, and as a brand, does not want to be associated with gambling. Jagex does not care if two players meet up to gamble on their own terms. That's their (the two deathmatchers') problem. '...and this video has evidence of it getting worse.' Your problem is that you can't define the 'it" getting worse. I'll define it for you again: Jagex does not care if players gamble on their own terms. Jagex DOES care if players are using an arena that they designed for gambling, because that does not look good for them as a brand. Also, to say that now it's 'worse' is ridiculous. Did you ever see how packed out the duel arena was? Now compare that to the amount of people who actually deathmatch in Lumbridge for example. Yeah. Exactly. You think that because one individual has worked out a way to "boost" their chances at RNG, that gambling as a whole is worse. Again, to sum it up for you one last time: You think that Jagex's goal was to eliminate gambling entirely. Jagex's actual goal was just to eliminate any threat of bad publicity or legal action by facilitating gambling in what a lot of people call "a kid's game." There are no age restrictions to play this game, or warnings/statements for the duel arena's gambling nature. THAT DOES NOT SLIDE IN THE LEGAL REALM. Is there anything that you still do not understand here?
7:16-:720 you see it he waits for them to step two tiles out then insta hits as you turn around to attack for second he gets pid instantly while running in a trangle
So this is how bikers winning so much gp. Oda didn't understand they weren't talkin bout giving first hit they were actually talking about PID. The guy was pid hacking not like regular first hit where they can still get first hit even without pid. Happy oda called bikers out cuz man scammed that 900bil. He didnt tell oda becase he didnt want oda to ruin his gp printing scam. Its legit sad and there supposed to be friends oda brought 99% of the traffic to that dm cc for bikers to farm without telling oda. Thats super scandalous
Thats kinda cute you think Oda is clueless. BTC and Oda have some of the sketchiest pasts in the osrs community. There is a 0% chance that Odablock (who gambles on osrs all day every single day) wouldn't know about PID manipulation. I'm a mid pker whos played 10x less than him and I knew about it.
@@Dr-dikhead why would oda purposely lose 30bil. He obviously had no idea what btc was doing. Also oda hasnt gambled in months wym everyday? Cuz oda risk fought and rwt that's the sketchiest past? Cmon now
@@Dr-dikheadbruh he was a kid in highschool then bro get off ur horse dude we all did dumb shit as kids grow up man u just hating and big facts on this oda got offered hundreds thousand of dollars to push gambling sites on his people and he didn't take the offer and hasn't so miss us with that bullshit
I thought it was kinda weird how that BTC guy had that much gp without being cleaned ever lol what a rat should be banned and I'm pretty sure he RWTS majority of people would RWT with that much gp
When real life money is part of the equation all bets are off the table. These guys will bug abuse, scam, whatever it takes to sit at home making money and not have to work a real life job.
And you blame them? if bro actually made a trill or more gp in profit in a year, that's 6 figures for just that. Hell, if I knew how to do so I would either.
I'm with Oda on this one. Absolute bullshit that you can guarantee PID in DM's, especially ones that last a few hits. I'm sure someone can do the math on this but a VW/Elder maul dm has to be near 70/30 odds in favor of the PID abuser. Whoever said in chat "The fact BTC's made nearly 1trill 07 in less than a year is proof enough most DM'ers don't know about this PID abuse tactic" really hit the nail on the head, perfectly said. I'd probs do the same thing if I was BTC's and just straight up farm the DM community, but he's a rat for snaking Oda and not telling him how to do it or at the very least letting him know hey before we DM just know I will get first hit everytime because I know a trick to guarantee PID, especially if he considers him a friend. You don't take advantage of friends. Snake behavior.
While I agree, with the amount of money he's making, I also wouldn't really care about some online ''friend'' if I could make literal 5 digits with an fairly (to BTC) easy method. Like bros before 403s anyday and all that, but like, this is business.
I can't stand BTC's but I totally disagree with you. It's not bug abuse, he's just clicking his mouse in Runelite like everyone else can if they knew the game as well as him. And why would he tell anybody his tactic? He doesn't owe that to anyone, they're stepping out in pvp by their own accord
I wouldn’t be upset about it if bikers abused it for a while then told his community. But he took 1 trillion gp from his community and only didn’t tell people about it until he was exposed
"he's just clicking his mouse in runelite". You can't word it like that LOL. He's clicking his mouse in runelite with advantageous knowledge and scamming unknowing people of bills, including his "friend" Oda. @@j102h
Yeah thats what I was thinking watching this. This shit isn't new and has been well covered for a while when the duel arena was still around. Very common scam to enable movement and then do this.
Oda comes across so bad in this, but his community will be so blind to see it. Constant crying about bug abuse but he says in the same breath why didn't you tell me i want to scam too? what the fuck
he says in the same conversation that he would show it on stream, he acknowledges how it is cheating so of course he wouldn't abuse it. GP doesn't matter as much to him as it does to us.
This is a perfect example of why I don't like oda I think he says some extremely rude things to his own audience and to his chat calling them retards when they're trying to Tell him about What he doesn't know he just refuses to listen cause he has to know everything and continuously insults them it bugs me really bad that people give money and he talks to them like that He deserves to have lost everything he got scammed for If you would have just Listen And not been so rude maybe he wouldn't have lost hardly as much
To be fair, chat always has people spewing absolute nonsense, so you'd have to be an idiot to take them seriously about something like this. There's always a dozen backseat gamers who think they know the game better than the streamer. Imagine having a dozen people criticizing everything you do constantly, and them also being completely wrong 99% of the time.
His brightest moment of gaslighting. *chat exposing the bug abuse* oda:"Why is everyone so dumb in chat, I know everything about pvp un this game" *chat still tries to warn that big ego head of him* oda: +keeps flaming and insulting everyone for making him look dumb without him even knowing+
He's saying oda's talking like he's like that but irl hes really not. Like come on the kid named his runescape charater oda, after oda block. 😂😂 man watched a buncha chiraq videos then did a name change on runescape.@blaydecarosone3448
great example of why assuming you're right & everyone is wrong prevents you from learning new things. That's why I always listen & research all possibilities cause there's always that chance
Uhhhhh wasn't this well known already? Common sense tells you if a guy has 900b bank he knows the tricks to get pid every hit. I watched his streams and he won't fight anyone who also knows the trick.
how is oda sketchy lmao? hes the most straight forward mother fucker in twitch the only person who isnt 2 faced when it comes to drama. the delusion is crazy.
Simple solution, don’t do sets where first hit matters lmao. Anyone getting cleaned this way would just lose their GP to another stupidly obvious finesse.
There’s a reason everyone charges 1.1x on duels that are more luck but they offer no x on no arms spec weapons. They are ruining the community and ultimately gonna be the reason Jamflex cracks down on deathmatching.
It's not really bug abuse though, he's just checking his pid in game via animations and then fighting when he has it. It's literally knowledge that's freely visible to everyone in the game, he just figured out how to make his knowledge make him money. The agreement is to a fight, nothing more nothing less.
Why does BTC think having rsgp equates to wealth irl, he barley sells and when he does it usually all goes. The internet egos are fun to watch but honestly are a huge problem in the world now. All I see is 2 mentally I’ll kids beefing over pixles
yea definitely agree. the fact is though that people like oda who are passionate (but egotistical) in their hobbies usually are able to gain a following due to drama etc
u act like a good 50% of the internet weenies dont enjoy watching drama . i want to see the potential of what abuse can be done idgaf about drama but it seems like u do commenting this l000l bet u watched every video from xqc and adept on release l00l
Why doesn't he sell? Bro if I made 900B in a year in GP, that's 6 figures for 0.16/m, why the hell WOULDN'T he sell? If he's not, maybe he's just addicted to trying to make more or something, idfk.
Lol, why would jagex care though? They pretty clearly don't want any form of gambling in the game. The fact that people still find a way is not their problem.
Most knew about ppl camping pid that’s why dming is dead cause 95% of the ppl there just want to camp first hit so it’s not 50/50 odds,if they don’t have an advantage they don’t wanna dm. Glad golds only worth .15/m, can buy 100m for 15$ so good luck dumping 100b never mind 500b+ for that rate
Yeah mate all the dm discord ranks pretty much use that shot and you still have to x them, like 1.1x their 80% odds it’s so dumb and broken! Amy OF and parallels pid won 10b off me easily with this broken mechanic
@@truelies5431 i understand, it's just very interesting he had no knowledge of this. i don't play osrs anymore and even i saw a video on the exploit, but arguably the best pvper on that game didn't catch wind of it himself, or through his chat/friends? very strange
Lol he was obviously getting first hit everytime, that’s why Voidwaker Death Matching isn’t reliable Bcuz you can 1st pid scam people. And if you get 1st pid with voidwaker it’s pretty much an instant win 80 percent of the time.
@@ownthispwn ima say its kind of weird that if he knows this guy is abusing this bug, and something is sus after like 3 duels and losing that much GP, he's smart enough and knows the game well enough to not walk out first and get hit no? Or to even stop rematching the guy if he's being cringe. I honestly feel like O is not stupid enough to do this over and over to lose 30b in GP, but he does that anyways. Just cause of that I feel like it's def a safe way to RMT. As for why exposing it later who knows, maybe to cover his tracks but at that point I feel like I'm reading into it too much. Main thing is just its weird with how smart he is to keep dming the dude, not gonna say he was for sure RMTing it, but something felt off I suppose.
also was gonna say that considering how much O makes off of kick and twitch, theres not really any reason for him to RMT silver. Man makes more in a few days then he would RMTing silver he gets from DMing.
At the end of the day 2 wrongs don’t make a right and I get oda is salty. But I do somewhat agree, it’s a bit shady if your going into a dm knowing your gonna win most if not all the time. I always found it crazy how btc has an insane amount of gp. I dunno if u could call it bug abuse but it is for sure shady. I went into his stream a while back and bro will literally spend 10-15 minutes doing that running shit to get pid. Guess it just kinda sums pvp and more so dm’ing up, all as bad as each other
Its a scam because BTCs and his buddies are sitting in their stream and saying first hit instead of PID to imply its different ticks. I literally have a clip of his buddy on his stream straight up telling the chat that Oda was hitting on a different tick which is clearly not true. Lies like that make it a scam. They know very well its the same tick but they're deceiving people by saying that having first hit and PID are somehow different. If they are different, then why does a "PID" swap reverse the first hit? I will say that I wouldn't personally refer to this as bug abuse though.
the common saying of people will do whatever it takes to have an advantage over someone else. something i found really interesting was in the beggining of the video, oda said lets do it at edge. but the guy said no .. here or ge .. makes me think it only works at lumbridge or the ge .. must not work in edge.
Then he explained how you do it.. then you tried and failed which I can see and you give first hit right.? At 9:00 yea bruh idk man you know it’s still pvp not gambling your not in duel arena anymore where y’all just stand there
I have NEVER been in BTC's stream until literally last night. And there were people saying they went through like 60 hours of his vods to figure it out but couldn't. Makes sense... Weird that the algo's are pushing this to me rn. EDIT. BTC' saying he streams it everyday... can't call it bug abuse. LOL okay what about the cheaters and bug abusers who stream EVERYDAY.. no logic.
lots of cheaters hide client on stream its not hard . its 2023 they got computer a.i hacks to make it look more human even its progressing as the anti cheat progresses
The thing is, he's just clicking his mouse in an approved client just like everyone else is. He found a game mechanic that he can use to give himself an advantage. That's the whole game, prayer flicking, tick eating, it's all the same. It's just playing rs the same as everyone else can if they knew about the same mechanics.
@@j102h do u ever get tired of trying too 1 down a bad decision? or ever get tired of talking out ur ass? grow a pair and do something difficult for once man it will help u grow
Man you had too much pride to ever learn or even hear about guarenteeing first hit. Anytime it came up, you said you know everything about pvp. There is no room for growth with a closed mind.
lolol what really gets me mann is that Stella was banned of this bs along sides being allowed to by a mod and then allows some one else who still dm's until this very day this whole game is becoming DL shady
Bro when’s the next DMM video? The way you were dropping these kids, violating them verbally was unlike any other video. I want more trash talk in the next video
It basically just means that if you both are going to die on the same tick, only the person who has pid will register a hit and win the fight. It's functionally a free hit.
This blows me away that people have that much money. Unfortunately I am legally blind and can't do much end game stuff and pking. My bank is only worth 200m. I keep quitting since trying to get money without being able to really boss or pk is a motivation killer. I love the game play, and I love playing but damn.
Damn what level of blind are you out of curiosity? That's awesome you can still get some enjoyment out of the game even though you can't see it properly. I wish there is a way you could see the game better to do end game content. Maybe you can do a whole bunch of plugins. You probably already know this, but there's runelitr plugind that highlight and outline whatever you want. You can make a bright colored box around bosses, you can highlight/label tiles, and even items in your inventory. What is your current setup for your vision? I imagine you use glasses, and full screen the game aswell?
@@scottboy I have holes in the center of my retinas so I can not see in front of me. I have to use my peripheral vision in order to see. I use a 50 inch tv and my monitor and sit like a foot away from it to try and see as much as I can.
@@Deaths_Reaper45 oh wow I've never heard of that sort of visual issue before that's actually pretty interesting, how did you end up with holes in both of your retinas? As someome without hindered vision It's hard for me to grasp just how difficult it would be to see with preferal vision only, at first it sounds definitely do-able but after trying it myself just now, i see that it's impossible to focus on an object you aren't looking at directly I gotta give you props that you can still manage to play the game. I'd like to think it's possible you could do end game content whilst borderline blind. Since PVM is highly pattern based, with enough grind, and some solid tile indicators, I bet you could get some solid endgame content done. If you haven't killed vorkath yet, that would be an awesome pattern to learn and start with, especially because it easier to kill on mobile. You could move the phone around slightly, keep it super close to your face, and make easier adjustment to your visual perception. I killed vorkath mobile only 2700 times in a row and the patterns definitely become deeply ingrained into the brain
@@scottboy From what the doctors told me, blood is leaking into my retinas causing the holes. I have to get eye injections every 7 weeks to slow it down. I have been getting them for about 7 years now.
900bill is like 200k usd….? Obviously nobody is going to tell you about this trick… especially the biggest streamer so he can stream it and rumble the entire operation.
Host shark and win all day told me about this movement to guarantee pid way back when osrs was actually osrs pre eoc gambler hosts are always rigged scammers
Oda "I know EVERYTHING about PvP". Also Oda "Guys I didn't even know that was possible; did anyone know that?". Why yes half of your chat was telling you while you called them names lmao.
Well i guess it cost you 30b to get the information for you and the community. Thankyou for sharing! I feel sad for you... It really sucks. I fuckin hate pvp even more now.
Wait, so the deathmatching community doesn't have integrity? wild
Yeah it honestly is so funny and concerning the amount of people
Who think this is wrong as they almost all have scammed/ gambled them selfs. The world is a scary place
@@johnwall7190no one gives a shit about this guy. People are mad that btcs took $1 trillion gp from his community that trusted him. These fights are intended to be 50/50
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Yeah none I was part of it with my streaming brother they are asshomes that prioritize money over people
everyone who wants you to gamble with them almost always has a mathematical advantage and knows it
“He was milking me like a fucking cow on lumbridge” lmao
They took away duel and made gambling even more underground and shady. Gg gagex
They're glad it's more shady and underground. They got too much negative attention for having an area that their own players called the sand casino. That's not good for their business.
@@themosthighvaluemaninthega9048 they cant control what the players do. if they want to risk billions of gp fighting each other with only two items that's not jagex's fault. TF are you guys even on?
@@cosanostra4229 I'll sum it up for you and the simpleton who made the original comment:
1. Jagex unintentionally design a minigame that facilitates gambling.
2. Players start gambling.
3. Jagex realizes that they do not want to be associated with gambling, so they remove the minigame.
4. Simpletons: 'They took away duel and made gambling even more underground and shady. Gg gagex'
Yes. That's the point. They don't want anything to do with gambling.
@@themosthighvaluemaninthega9048 exactly. That's why I said they can't control what the players do. The fact that the players continue to do stuff like this has nothing to do with jagex making a mistake.
The reality of the situation is....removing the duel arena was a bit of an overreach for a couple reasons.
The fact that players call it the sand casino doesn't make it gambling.
Also it didn't really change anything, if anything it made it worse and this video has evidence of it getting worse.
@@cosanostra4229 'The reality of the situation is....removing the duel arena was a bit of an overreach for a couple reasons.'
An overreach? Why? You only mention one. Your first "reason" is just a false statement, and your "second" reason is also false.
'The fact that players call it the sand casino doesn't make it gambling.'
True. I could call a Big Mac a casino and that wouldn't make it gambling either. But two players challenging each other to a naked whip fight to see whose RNG hits prevail is literally gambling. Lol. You realise that slot machines, blackjack, the lottery, scratch cards, etc... are all RNG generators?
'Also it didn't really change anything, if anything it made it worse and this video has evidence of it getting worse.'
I just wrote a comment explaining why it did indeed change things.You could not be more wrong by saying it changes nothing. Your train of thought is saying: "But people are still gambling! So you're wrong! Now it's worse!
Lol..... I don't understand how you can't understand this.
Jagex as a business, and as a brand, does not want to be associated with gambling.
Jagex does not care if two players meet up to gamble on their own terms. That's their (the two deathmatchers') problem.
'...and this video has evidence of it getting worse.'
Your problem is that you can't define the 'it" getting worse. I'll define it for you again:
Jagex does not care if players gamble on their own terms. Jagex DOES care if players are using an arena that they designed for gambling, because that does not look good for them as a brand.
Also, to say that now it's 'worse' is ridiculous. Did you ever see how packed out the duel arena was? Now compare that to the amount of people who actually deathmatch in Lumbridge for example. Yeah. Exactly.
You think that because one individual has worked out a way to "boost" their chances at RNG, that gambling as a whole is worse.
Again, to sum it up for you one last time:
You think that Jagex's goal was to eliminate gambling entirely. Jagex's actual goal was just to eliminate any threat of bad publicity or legal action by facilitating gambling in what a lot of people call "a kid's game." There are no age restrictions to play this game, or warnings/statements for the duel arena's gambling nature. THAT DOES NOT SLIDE IN THE LEGAL REALM.
Is there anything that you still do not understand here?
7:16-:720 you see it he waits for them to step two tiles out then insta hits as you turn around to attack for second he gets pid instantly while running in a trangle
So this is how bikers winning so much gp. Oda didn't understand they weren't talkin bout giving first hit they were actually talking about PID. The guy was pid hacking not like regular first hit where they can still get first hit even without pid. Happy oda called bikers out cuz man scammed that 900bil. He didnt tell oda becase he didnt want oda to ruin his gp printing scam. Its legit sad and there supposed to be friends oda brought 99% of the traffic to that dm cc for bikers to farm without telling oda. Thats super scandalous
Thats kinda cute you think Oda is clueless. BTC and Oda have some of the sketchiest pasts in the osrs community. There is a 0% chance that Odablock (who gambles on osrs all day every single day) wouldn't know about PID manipulation. I'm a mid pker whos played 10x less than him and I knew about it.
@@Dr-dikhead why would oda purposely lose 30bil. He obviously had no idea what btc was doing. Also oda hasnt gambled in months wym everyday? Cuz oda risk fought and rwt that's the sketchiest past? Cmon now
@@Dr-dikheadbruh he was a kid in highschool then bro get off ur horse dude we all did dumb shit as kids grow up man u just hating and big facts on this oda got offered hundreds thousand of dollars to push gambling sites on his people and he didn't take the offer and hasn't so miss us with that bullshit
@@Dr-dikhead if he knew about it he would have abused it off stream and not expose it on stream.
because buddy is gonna rwt the gp and give oda a split
@@JoebsonOSRS
I thought it was kinda weird how that BTC guy had that much gp without being cleaned ever lol what a rat should be banned and I'm pretty sure he RWTS majority of people would RWT with that much gp
He's attempted to RWT on stream by pretending he accidentally teled to varrock with bils on him where his buyers were waiting in pk gear
@@j102h attempted to? what went wrong?"banned mid-tele?
@@sirnunyabuiz6529 They fumbled the kill, he ran to bank after freeze with no food lmao
@@sirnunyabuiz6529 It was just a few minutes after starting stream too, obv setup
lmaooo@@j102h
He called that man Mr. Krabs LMFAO
“You scammed the whole community yourself, I wanna scam too” - Oda
yeah the baldies face went red with rage when he didnt know how to scam lool :D:D
@@Eazy336this aged well huh? BTC got banned and Oda isn’t. Tard
When real life money is part of the equation all bets are off the table. These guys will bug abuse, scam, whatever it takes to sit at home making money and not have to work a real life job.
Hahahahaha
And you blame them? if bro actually made a trill or more gp in profit in a year, that's 6 figures for just that. Hell, if I knew how to do so I would either.
@sirnunyabuiz6529 then you are a scumbag aswell. That's your choice if you want to be one or not. Scamming people is fked up
@@sirnunyabuiz6529 nah believe it or not some people actually have respect for themselves to not stoop to this.
@sirnunyabuiz6529 yeah but good luck getting any respect when people ask what you do
That 45 pid swap was wallah gagek moment
I'm with Oda on this one. Absolute bullshit that you can guarantee PID in DM's, especially ones that last a few hits. I'm sure someone can do the math on this but a VW/Elder maul dm has to be near 70/30 odds in favor of the PID abuser. Whoever said in chat "The fact BTC's made nearly 1trill 07 in less than a year is proof enough most DM'ers don't know about this PID abuse tactic" really hit the nail on the head, perfectly said. I'd probs do the same thing if I was BTC's and just straight up farm the DM community, but he's a rat for snaking Oda and not telling him how to do it or at the very least letting him know hey before we DM just know I will get first hit everytime because I know a trick to guarantee PID, especially if he considers him a friend. You don't take advantage of friends. Snake behavior.
While I agree, with the amount of money he's making, I also wouldn't really care about some online ''friend'' if I could make literal 5 digits with an fairly (to BTC) easy method. Like bros before 403s anyday and all that, but like, this is business.
I can't stand BTC's but I totally disagree with you. It's not bug abuse, he's just clicking his mouse in Runelite like everyone else can if they knew the game as well as him. And why would he tell anybody his tactic? He doesn't owe that to anyone, they're stepping out in pvp by their own accord
I wouldn’t be upset about it if bikers abused it for a while then told his community. But he took 1 trillion gp from his community and only didn’t tell people about it until he was exposed
"he's just clicking his mouse in runelite". You can't word it like that LOL. He's clicking his mouse in runelite with advantageous knowledge and scamming unknowing people of bills, including his "friend" Oda.
@@j102h
@@sirnunyabuiz6529but when BTCs “online friend” brought everyone to his cc so that they could be farmed…. He should let him know all his tactics
"i wanna scam too"
No I remember why I originally disliked Oda I'm glad he's been doing decent pvm content and redeeming himself slowly
@@troytrick3325so you hated him because he was a pker??? You sound sumb af
Do you remember the people who used to put obstacles on in the Duel arena? They did the same thing
movement on
Yeah thats what I was thinking watching this. This shit isn't new and has been well covered for a while when the duel arena was still around. Very common scam to enable movement and then do this.
Oda deserved the hell outta this, chat tries to save him and he just flames them. "I know everything about PvP!" Sit zoggy.
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And yet bikers got perm banned
I don't get why ppl ride Oda dude is a lame
yeah my thoughts to his pride was his fall there
They're all scumbags. 😂
Hes talking to bikers like it's not bikers cleaning him
Oda comes across so bad in this, but his community will be so blind to see it. Constant crying about bug abuse but he says in the same breath why didn't you tell me i want to scam too? what the fuck
he says in the same conversation that he would show it on stream, he acknowledges how it is cheating so of course he wouldn't abuse it. GP doesn't matter as much to him as it does to us.
It's oda, what were you expecting
THIS DEFEATS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF PKING
This is a perfect example of why I don't like oda I think he says some extremely rude things to his own audience and to his chat calling them retards when they're trying to Tell him about What he doesn't know he just refuses to listen cause he has to know everything and continuously insults them it bugs me really bad that people give money and he talks to them like that He deserves to have lost everything he got scammed for If you would have just Listen And not been so rude maybe he wouldn't have lost hardly as much
He should have apologized for flaming those who tried to warm him, least someone could do in that situation.
To be fair, chat always has people spewing absolute nonsense, so you'd have to be an idiot to take them seriously about something like this.
There's always a dozen backseat gamers who think they know the game better than the streamer. Imagine having a dozen people criticizing everything you do constantly, and them also being completely wrong 99% of the time.
@@eugenesis8188 not wrong
At 2017 some stakers in duel arena already abused that 💯 pid "bug"
i was 1 of them lma0
@@skipthegym9863 m'fker you ow me gp then
How the fk u need to abuse it?
"bug" indeed, more like a deliberately implimented jagex sabotage technique
His brightest moment of gaslighting. *chat exposing the bug abuse* oda:"Why is everyone so dumb in chat, I know everything about pvp un this game" *chat still tries to warn that big ego head of him* oda: +keeps flaming and insulting everyone for making him look dumb without him even knowing+
Oda thinking he’s too smart was his downfall. Absolute weapon 😂
@@Opaquesoulbruh what
@@Opaquesoul you won't run your mouth in person either shut up little dude
@@Opaquesoulseek help
He's saying oda's talking like he's like that but irl hes really not. Like come on the kid named his runescape charater oda, after oda block. 😂😂 man watched a buncha chiraq videos then did a name change on runescape.@blaydecarosone3448
great example of why assuming you're right & everyone is wrong prevents you from learning new things. That's why I always listen & research all possibilities cause there's always that chance
Never underestimate the power of your own ego.
and now btcs is banned, love to see it
good
He's banned for real?
@@thecandyman0999 unless he got unbanned yeah this was big news, he really did have the largest bank and its clearly obvious how he got it
blackmarket his bank if it was almost 1tril was like 200k+ irl $ lol sit the fuck down btc
@@heyimnotmexican1 damn ! That's crazy bro
29:05 drive by snowman L00000l
l0l didnt notice that
Noobtype had a video of that also. How is it done? Using the egg stall first?
when oda referred to him as mr krabs i lost it.
Uhhhhh wasn't this well known already? Common sense tells you if a guy has 900b bank he knows the tricks to get pid every hit. I watched his streams and he won't fight anyone who also knows the trick.
BTC and Oda are both beyond sketchy and need to stop getting so much attention from us.
Lol how oda sketch
@@TehKneegrowplease haram
Oda is the most trust worthy content creator in the game. Just because he talks shit and jokes around doesn’t mean he is sketchy
how is oda sketchy lmao? hes the most straight forward mother fucker in twitch the only person who isnt 2 faced when it comes to drama. the delusion is crazy.
@@Settings404 He used to be one of the bigest rwters and gamblers during duel arena years. Sketchy.
Simple solution, don’t do sets where first hit matters lmao. Anyone getting cleaned this way would just lose their GP to another stupidly obvious finesse.
that makes so much sense, cause he was saying "brb phone call" and shit and wouldn't fight until a certain time, that's insane
isnt tick manipulation bug abuse too then?
I remember those clips btc got banned later right ?
There’s a reason everyone charges 1.1x on duels that are more luck but they offer no x on no arms spec weapons. They are ruining the community and ultimately gonna be the reason Jamflex cracks down on deathmatching.
U can force a kid swap by running behind the wall it skips your 1 by 1 block movement putting u str8 into combat
Hmmm... fr?
Just watched the video Holy moly the guys abusing this need to be punished
Agreed. I guess deathmatching will be against rules doon
It's not really bug abuse though, he's just checking his pid in game via animations and then fighting when he has it. It's literally knowledge that's freely visible to everyone in the game, he just figured out how to make his knowledge make him money. The agreement is to a fight, nothing more nothing less.
@@eds7228bring back the duel arena
@@SatChaser i hope so
Well hello BTC.@@eds7228
Why does BTC think having rsgp equates to wealth irl, he barley sells and when he does it usually all goes. The internet egos are fun to watch but honestly are a huge problem in the world now. All I see is 2 mentally I’ll kids beefing over pixles
yea definitely agree. the fact is though that people like oda who are passionate (but egotistical) in their hobbies usually are able to gain a following due to drama etc
u act like a good 50% of the internet weenies dont enjoy watching drama . i want to see the potential of what abuse can be done idgaf about drama but it seems like u do commenting this l000l
bet u watched every video from xqc and adept on release l00l
Why doesn't he sell? Bro if I made 900B in a year in GP, that's 6 figures for 0.16/m, why the hell WOULDN'T he sell? If he's not, maybe he's just addicted to trying to make more or something, idfk.
@@sirnunyabuiz6529yeah it’s an addiction
Just bring the duel arena back. Atleast it was fair back then jagex really fucked up
Lol, why would jagex care though? They pretty clearly don't want any form of gambling in the game. The fact that people still find a way is not their problem.
Most knew about ppl camping pid that’s why dming is dead cause 95% of the ppl there just want to camp first hit so it’s not 50/50 odds,if they don’t have an advantage they don’t wanna dm. Glad golds only worth .15/m, can buy 100m for 15$ so good luck dumping 100b never mind 500b+ for that rate
what twhat the song at 5:38?
Wasnt expecting the Sherm
how to sell 40b
Idk why more people can’t see this. Love big o but this was one of his best performances yet 😂
Yeah mate all the dm discord ranks pretty much use that shot and you still have to x them, like 1.1x their 80% odds it’s so dumb and broken! Amy OF and parallels pid won 10b off me easily with this broken mechanic
I would get the pidswap and only for one or 2 hits before the pid swaps back to thiers?????? Brokennn
use to be able to do this on private servers, you'd clean the duel arena in a day or 2
Yup, I remembered owning eco on spawnpk years ago loll
Lmfao! Donator said "LOL that's a lot man, ide be pissed"
Gotta rub that salt and vinegar in the wound 😂
“You’re like Mr. Krabs!” 🗣️🗣️🗣️
is this an old vid? i've known about this pid exploit for a few months now there's no way oda recently lost to this
Happened just a day ago!
Well, Oda wasn't Dming for the last two months because he played GHCIM and then he played BH for a while till DMM
@@truelies5431 i understand, it's just very interesting he had no knowledge of this. i don't play osrs anymore and even i saw a video on the exploit, but arguably the best pvper on that game didn't catch wind of it himself, or through his chat/friends? very strange
It was as if the guy was swinging quicker every hit, and no one noticed
Bro chat said “Oda you might be high off your baby’s shit fumes” bro 💀
Sick i even didn't know about the PID glitch
28:48 piety for the imp is killin me lmaao always in pk mode
Lol he was obviously getting first hit everytime, that’s why Voidwaker Death Matching isn’t reliable Bcuz you can 1st pid scam people. And if you get 1st pid with voidwaker it’s pretty much an instant win 80 percent of the time.
Mr krabs line was cold cant even lie
Odas w good actor…good way to transfer huge amount of gp…then sell it so he doesn’t get banned
Cringe comment
Man makes 500k a year on twitch you think he risking tha to sell 10k worth of gp? Your brain dead
how if hes exposing this guy for cheating and potentially getting him banned? doesnt make sense.
@@ownthispwn ima say its kind of weird that if he knows this guy is abusing this bug, and something is sus after like 3 duels and losing that much GP, he's smart enough and knows the game well enough to not walk out first and get hit no? Or to even stop rematching the guy if he's being cringe. I honestly feel like O is not stupid enough to do this over and over to lose 30b in GP, but he does that anyways.
Just cause of that I feel like it's def a safe way to RMT. As for why exposing it later who knows, maybe to cover his tracks but at that point I feel like I'm reading into it too much. Main thing is just its weird with how smart he is to keep dming the dude, not gonna say he was for sure RMTing it, but something felt off I suppose.
also was gonna say that considering how much O makes off of kick and twitch, theres not really any reason for him to RMT silver. Man makes more in a few days then he would RMTing silver he gets from DMing.
At the end of the day 2 wrongs don’t make a right and I get oda is salty. But I do somewhat agree, it’s a bit shady if your going into a dm knowing your gonna win most if not all the time. I always found it crazy how btc has an insane amount of gp. I dunno if u could call it bug abuse but it is for sure shady. I went into his stream a while back and bro will literally spend 10-15 minutes doing that running shit to get pid. Guess it just kinda sums pvp and more so dm’ing up, all as bad as each other
Its a scam because BTCs and his buddies are sitting in their stream and saying first hit instead of PID to imply its different ticks. I literally have a clip of his buddy on his stream straight up telling the chat that Oda was hitting on a different tick which is clearly not true. Lies like that make it a scam. They know very well its the same tick but they're deceiving people by saying that having first hit and PID are somehow different. If they are different, then why does a "PID" swap reverse the first hit?
I will say that I wouldn't personally refer to this as bug abuse though.
@@afroboy47it is literally abusing a bug you can’t really argue that
Its not a bug@@magicwiza3635
the common saying of people will do whatever it takes to have an advantage over someone else. something i found really interesting was in the beggining of the video, oda said lets do it at edge. but the guy said no .. here or ge .. makes me think it only works at lumbridge or the ge .. must not work in edge.
Oda got 2K23 bid "lured" for 30b oops 😂
Then he explained how you do it.. then you tried and failed which I can see and you give first hit right.? At 9:00 yea bruh idk man you know it’s still pvp not gambling your not in duel arena anymore where y’all just stand there
I have NEVER been in BTC's stream until literally last night. And there were people saying they went through like 60 hours of his vods to figure it out but couldn't. Makes sense... Weird that the algo's are pushing this to me rn.
EDIT. BTC' saying he streams it everyday... can't call it bug abuse. LOL okay what about the cheaters and bug abusers who stream EVERYDAY.. no logic.
lots of cheaters hide client on stream its not hard . its 2023 they got computer a.i hacks to make it look more human even its progressing as the anti cheat progresses
The thing is, he's just clicking his mouse in an approved client just like everyone else is. He found a game mechanic that he can use to give himself an advantage. That's the whole game, prayer flicking, tick eating, it's all the same. It's just playing rs the same as everyone else can if they knew about the same mechanics.
@@j102h do u ever get tired of trying too 1 down a bad decision? or ever get tired of talking out ur ass? grow a pair and do something difficult for once man it will help u grow
Man you had too much pride to ever learn or even hear about guarenteeing first hit. Anytime it came up, you said you know everything about pvp. There is no room for growth with a closed mind.
Bring back duel arena. O needs to figure out how it works and expose it otherwise.
lolol what really gets me mann is that Stella was banned of this bs along sides being allowed to by a mod and then allows some one else who still dm's until this very day this whole game is becoming DL shady
HAHAH "You're like mr krabs"
milked like a cow in lumbridge is hilarious
Is this glitch fixed?
"You're like Mr. Krabs." got me looooool
Lmfaooo about him talking about get pid every fight with the rant ends😅😅😅
Oda litteraly cashed out and everybody thinks he lost bank, fucking genius my boy 👊💥
He is a scammer that jagex still hasn't banned embarrasing
@@erzrsdid you didnt see the video how oda cried when they bannend him😂😂 perma than he cried so much that he legit got unbann so supah gringe😂
Didn’t watch the full video, but look like oda got pid delay when click opponent on safe zone
Or animation delay
Bro when’s the next DMM video? The way you were dropping these kids, violating them verbally was unlike any other video. I want more trash talk in the next video
LET EM KNOW!!!!
it was a L at the time but now he knows so it will be W
Oda so mad with red face lmfao
Havent pked really since like 06 lol what is pid? Just ensuring u hit first?
It basically just means that if you both are going to die on the same tick, only the person who has pid will register a hit and win the fight. It's functionally a free hit.
Vw elder is 60/40 odds majority of the time unless they’re always on lid then it’s 70/30
This blows me away that people have that much money. Unfortunately I am legally blind and can't do much end game stuff and pking. My bank is only worth 200m. I keep quitting since trying to get money without being able to really boss or pk is a motivation killer. I love the game play, and I love playing but damn.
Damn what level of blind are you out of curiosity? That's awesome you can still get some enjoyment out of the game even though you can't see it properly. I wish there is a way you could see the game better to do end game content.
Maybe you can do a whole bunch of plugins. You probably already know this, but there's runelitr plugind that highlight and outline whatever you want. You can make a bright colored box around bosses, you can highlight/label tiles, and even items in your inventory.
What is your current setup for your vision? I imagine you use glasses, and full screen the game aswell?
@@scottboy I have holes in the center of my retinas so I can not see in front of me. I have to use my peripheral vision in order to see. I use a 50 inch tv and my monitor and sit like a foot away from it to try and see as much as I can.
@@Deaths_Reaper45 oh wow I've never heard of that sort of visual issue before that's actually pretty interesting, how did you end up with holes in both of your retinas?
As someome without hindered vision It's hard for me to grasp just how difficult it would be to see with preferal vision only, at first it sounds definitely do-able but after trying it myself just now, i see that it's impossible to focus on an object you aren't looking at directly I gotta give you props that you can still manage to play the game.
I'd like to think it's possible you could do end game content whilst borderline blind. Since PVM is highly pattern based, with enough grind, and some solid tile indicators, I bet you could get some solid endgame content done. If you haven't killed vorkath yet, that would be an awesome pattern to learn and start with, especially because it easier to kill on mobile. You could move the phone around slightly, keep it super close to your face, and make easier adjustment to your visual perception. I killed vorkath mobile only 2700 times in a row and the patterns definitely become deeply ingrained into the brain
@@scottboy From what the doctors told me, blood is leaking into my retinas causing the holes. I have to get eye injections every 7 weeks to slow it down. I have been getting them for about 7 years now.
@@Deaths_Reaper45 have you ever thought about trying iron man? it might give you some new challenges?
probably sold the gp to the pker and this is just staged so he has plausible deniability
I love this game but you’ll never see me in a pk area. There’s so much controversy over how legit a lot of it is so I avoid it all together.
This dude is definitely the reason BTC got banned
Good
Knew oda would cash out, he gotta but diapers and baby food nowadays
8:44 jesus dming is so kappapride literally
Why does PKLRA show up on friends list but not in highscores?
Name doesn't show on HS, acc has been banned.
In this case, you gambled pid. Can’t get upset about it
Oda im sorry I had to evaluate this a couple times today look how they move right before the match starts..
Odablock: “gambling is haram”
Also odablock for hours a day:
wooooooow what a revelation. PID hack huh
he doesnt do anything to give himself PID he just waits until he has it before he fights, probably with a client
Shat music shat streamer
900bill is like 200k usd….? Obviously nobody is going to tell you about this trick… especially the biggest streamer so he can stream it and rumble the entire operation.
"I Know everything about PVP" famous words of someone who doesn't know and can't take advice
Host shark and win all day told me about this movement to guarantee pid way back when osrs was actually osrs pre eoc gambler hosts are always rigged scammers
Theres a saying...."i demand LESS corruption, or MORE participation IN it."
Everyone says they know, but no one will explain it, thats how you know ppl be on some bullshit.
I vote that he gives me the 900b and I choose what happens to it. Cough Rwt cough
Oda "I know EVERYTHING about PvP".
Also Oda "Guys I didn't even know that was possible; did anyone know that?".
Why yes half of your chat was telling you while you called them names lmao.
all im saying is if someone was doing this to me. I wouldnt fight them it looks sketchy the way he goes for pid
lol oda probably been doing it himself and then when he loses he blames other people for it?
Lol : i wana abuse to..pls teach me. Every update change the game
Surely they patch that
Still havnt lol
maybe he sold 30b to the guy, and this was the safest way to transfer the gold? :)
Play at 1.5x speed to waste less time on slow talking Oda
Well i guess it cost you 30b to get the information for you and the community. Thankyou for sharing! I feel sad for you... It really sucks. I fuckin hate pvp even more now.
Fred cleaning everyone with pid