Tim can't wait to meet you tomorrow at the show. After talking with you last year I have joined PHWFF Charleston SC and now I'm in the top five winners in the Fly Tying contest. Thank you for all the hard work you have done making your RUclips videos
John, I just saw this comment now! It was incredible meeting with you, and I'm honored that you got the fly from my channel. Keep up the tying, and I'll talk to you soon. Tim
Great comment, Greg Bennett , and eyes can be a topic that causes some debate between fly tyers (and fly fishermen). In a fast-water situation, I'm unsure of the impact they have, though in other instances, that impression may make the difference. Thanks again. Tim
I'm new to tying and learn so much from your channel. You explain things so well and make it look easy enough to give it a go. Mine do not look as good as yours yet, but I'm practicing and improving. Thank you for bringing the real life reasons and explanations as to why we should tie something in a certain way. I enjoy your videos and will go thru all of then looking for the pearls you have to share. Thanks!! El Jefe
+Jeff W. El Jefe, thanks for taking a moment to comment, and I really appreciate the kind words. If you keep going, I am positive your tying will be better than mine! Keep it going, and let me know if you ever have any questions or need some advice. I look forward to your comments on some of my other videos. Thanks again! Tim
You're welcome, and very cool that you shared you're in NZ! Please be sure to let me know how they work, or even tag me on Facebook (if you're on there). Thanks for taking a moment to comment. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
wow I have circled back to this video, didnt remember that I watched it 9 months ago! I've tied up a bunch of these, lost a lot of them, and landed some really good fish on them. I ran into a guy who owns a guide shop near my local river. He suggested that under water, at depth, colors are different and that pinks, yellows, reds, oranges do not penetrate that well into the water, so they look like completely different shades.
Great comments, and thanks for sharing! Do you tie yours with the mono eyes, or is that just an extra step? I've since stopped putting them in...and the fish don't seem to mind! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
After watching some scud swimming videos on youtube, it's safe to say that they in fact do straighten out when they swim. However, the curve on the scud hook you use in your tutorial seems to perfectly imitate a swimming scud.
+Charles Loftis Thank you for the kind words, Charles, and you're welcome. I had a lot of fun tying this one, and I hope to hear more from you on my other videos. Tim
Thank you for the well rounded scud tutorial ! I myself had a hard time with setting the eyes so tied 2 inches of mono onto my hook with wire (I used copper.) and then melted the eyes. Much easier for my eyes ha ha....
I love the video's! I recently started tying my own flies but unfortunately the local fly shop I go to for everything is going out of business so the only way I can learn is by watching video's like these. This one is on my to-do list after I tie up more Copper John's which is tough (I always have an issue with the wings). I've mastered egg/sucker spawn patterns (live in Steelhead Alley) so it's time to move on to smaller ones like this.
Thanks for the kind words, Jayme Young ; I'm glad I can help. That's too bad that your local fly shop is going out of business...they are great places that really help the sport. Let me know if you ever need any help and/or suggestions, and good luck with the tying. TC
Hey Tim, Love the fly. I like the stonfo vise. I considered one, but there were none available around me to check out the quality. I realized the video had some great points. As you are aware I wanted Marc Petitjean's vise from Switzerland. There has never been a complaint and the system is bulletproof. I got one of those coming Monday. Unfortunately, I have hand surgery on April 1st and I will then be able to enjoy it everyday thereafter. Tight lines, Sean
Thanks, Sean, and I agree with you regarding the vises. The Stonfo vise is an incredible tool, and I look forward to tying on it for years to come. I have been tying on it for a couple weeks and am extremely pleased to this point. Let me know how the Petitjean vise is once it arrives. Thanks again, and hope all goes well with your hand surgery. Tim
Nice job Tim, I use scud patterns in the 12 - 14 range for panfish as well. For trout, I don't use quite as much weight as you do, but do use a sink tip line. Again - nice work on a simple pattern - less is MORE!! LOL! Mike
Hey Tim: Another great video and right on target. So many fly fishers underestimate scuds. I have had great success with a dusty rose oversized scud for pink salmon and I caught my first redfish on the same fly. Straight Scuds: Was thinking of tying one as a tube fly (on a q-tip) tonight. ;)
Tim, AWESOME commentary! I wish the other skilled fly-tiers on RUclips would describe things as much as you do. I love your patterns and instruction... my only criticism... with 90% of the population being right-handed, it sure would be nice if we (right-handed folk) could view your videos from the correct perspective, instead of trying to reverse everything in our brains. Troy
Thanks for the kind words, Troy Hallman ; I really appreciate them. It's great to know that you like all of my descriptions, and it's great knowing that you chose to take time out of your day to mention that. Regarding the videos, I am actually right-handed as well, and know what you mean. From a video perspective, having the camera facing the fly is much easier than placing the camera between the fly and me, hence the image you see. If there is a way for me to reverse the image so you can see if from the other perspective, I'd be happy to do so (I'm positive that the technology is there, though I honestly just don't know enough about it). There are a few early videos out there in which the camera is from my angle, but it was really uncomfortable and I felt that the tying could be improved by the adjustment. Thanks again for the comments. Tim
Thanks for taking a moment to comment, Joseph. Are you involved with entomology at all? I know just enough about these to be dangerous! Ha ha. Happy new year, and I look forward to hearing more from you on some of my other videos. Tim
Gorgeous but I notice hooks in fish I catch. I also notice osprey catching the same fish. Have you thought of what lead will do to osprey especially young? 😮 Jigs have been found in remote lake loons for decades now. Hmm.
Hi Tim ! Im Guillermo from San Martin de los Andes in the Patagonia. I decided to start tying fly by watching your videos. I already have the tools but i need to buy some products to begin. Can you recommend some of them, just to start. Thanks a lot, your videos are awesome ! I hope to see you fishing over here some time !
Hi Guillermo, and thanks for the comments! It's tough to know what flies you're going to be fishing with, but for starters, I would recommend dubbing for nymphs (such as Hare's Ear and black SLF Spikey), pheasant tails, peacock herl, and bead heads. For the woolly bugger, you'd need marabou, saddle hackle (or schlappen), and chenille for the body of the pattern. Dry flies are another area, though very specialized to your waters you fish, thus I would start with the nymphs and woolly bugger. If you need more specific recommendations, I would see if there are any fly shops in Patagonia to contact, as they may give you more refined recommendations for the area you're fishing. Good luck, and I'm glad my videos have motivated you! Tim
thanks for taking the time to answer me Tim, i appreciate your advise and i ll let you know how it works for me. I have contacted a fly shop and ask them a few things too. Thanks a lot again !
That would be really cool, Russell. Are you attending the International Fly Tying Symposium in New Jersey this year? It is in a couple weekends, and I'll be tying with a class there. www.internationalflytyingsymposium.com/ I think you're further away, but it's a great event. Thanks for the kind words. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Dont scuds in the wild travel backwards? just swimming and scooting around dont they move with their heads facing rearward? is that action enough to cause a fish to shy away from biting?
Great question! I believe they travel backwards to escape, and forward when eating. Typically when fishing, our intention is to represent one drifting helplessly in the current...and fish certainly seem to eat the patterns I use to represent them. Though that drives a larger question: Are they taking these patterns as scuds or another underwater insect? That's one I doubt we'll ever fully determine the answer to. Thanks again! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Thanks for the comment, Dennis, and I really like the Stonfo vise. I have only been using it for a couple weeks, but am really happy with it to this point. Thanks again for the comment. TC
Dave, the pliers are made by Stonfo and I really love them. I believe there are a few online shops that sell them, and I have both the fine and standard size. I tend to use the standard size (grey color) more than the fine (black color), but love them both. Tim
That's a great suggestion, Cal, and one worth trying. Thanks for taking the time to comment and I hope to hear from you on some of my other videos. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Tim, I have watched many of your videos more than once. I do not remember you saying anything about "fluorocarbon" dropper. I wondered why you choose fluorocarbon? Since it will never degrade should it be lost in the stream or river, what it the advantage of using it? Since most of use catch and release to keep the population up and healthy, I just wondered why use a product that will forever pollute the water if it is lost? I am not an activist or a tree hugger. I believe the planet has ways of healing itself. I am just wondering. All the best, Sean
Sean, thanks for the comment and question. In terms of tippet for nymphs and streamers, the main product I use is fluorocarbon, especially in high-pressured waters. It has a better abrasion resistance and absorbs practically no water, plus it's impervious to UV rays. These are the main reasons I use it, plus the fact that I believe fish are unable to view it as clearly as nylon (I have on proof of that, just my own observations). Regarding the pollution aspect, that's something I don't know as much about and are interested in learning more. Can you share any information in that area? Thanks! Tim
The only thing I know about it is that since it is impervious to uv light it is non degradable. So if you lose a nymph on the river the hook and the fly are going to degrade but the fluorocarbon is there forever! Not something they advertise, many people wouldn't buy it because of that alone. Since I want the fisheries to remain after I have left this earth something that will NEVER degrade is not an option for me.
+Redneck Hippie I do, and I think there is a dubbing that has that look you are referring to. It's called "rainbow" dubbing, and has a great look. Do you know of it?
Scuds spend the vast majority of their time stretched out and straight. The only time a scud is curved is when they are actively swimming, trying to escape a predator. You had mentioned earlier in the video that they are curved as they drift in the current. That is not accurate. Scuds also have 2 antennae off the front where the eyes are located and a large group of legs off the rear. You had mentioned that squirrel that you added was for appendages.
Hi Fly Tyer, and thanks for the insights re: scuds. It sounds like I may have said the description backwards...so glad the trout don't seem to mind! ;-) Tim www.troutandfeather.com
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Tim can't wait to meet you tomorrow at the show. After talking with you last year I have joined PHWFF Charleston SC and now I'm in the top five winners in the Fly Tying contest. Thank you for all the hard work you have done making your RUclips videos
John, I just saw this comment now! It was incredible meeting with you, and I'm honored that you got the fly from my channel. Keep up the tying, and I'll talk to you soon. Tim
Tim, Glad to see that I'm not the only insane guy to ty in eyes, they say it's to much trouble. But they keep coming bac to get more Great tye
Great comment, Greg Bennett , and eyes can be a topic that causes some debate between fly tyers (and fly fishermen). In a fast-water situation, I'm unsure of the impact they have, though in other instances, that impression may make the difference. Thanks again. Tim
I like the extra touch of tying in the eyes,I know its more for me,but that's why I tie flies.
Nice job Tim. I like the tippet for the rib. Looks great.
Thanks so much, Frank, this is a fun one to tie! Is there a healthy scud population in the waters you fish? Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Thanks for the tutorial. I am a beginner and the simpler the better. My olive scud came out great. Thanks again.
You're welcome, Roland, and you'll have to email me a pic or two! tcammisa@gmail.com I'd love to see them, and am happy to have helped. Tim
I'm new to tying and learn so much from your channel. You explain things so well and make it look easy enough to give it a go. Mine do not look as good as yours yet, but I'm practicing and improving. Thank you for bringing the real life reasons and explanations as to why we should tie something in a certain way. I enjoy your videos and will go thru all of then looking for the pearls you have to share. Thanks!!
El Jefe
+Jeff W. El Jefe, thanks for taking a moment to comment, and I really appreciate the kind words. If you keep going, I am positive your tying will be better than mine! Keep it going, and let me know if you ever have any questions or need some advice. I look forward to your comments on some of my other videos. Thanks again! Tim
My all time favorite fly is the scud!!! Every rainbow above 24in that I've caught...all on scuds!!!
No kidding...that is CRAZY! What I want to know is how many over 24" that you've caught... TC
About 8-9 haha
Always worth a watch and so informative. Will try tying up a few for next week on the Ruakaturi River. Thanks from down-under in NZ.
You're welcome, and very cool that you shared you're in NZ! Please be sure to let me know how they work, or even tag me on Facebook (if you're on there). Thanks for taking a moment to comment. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
wow I have circled back to this video, didnt remember that I watched it 9 months ago! I've tied up a bunch of these, lost a lot of them, and landed some really good fish on them. I ran into a guy who owns a guide shop near my local river. He suggested that under water, at depth, colors are different and that pinks, yellows, reds, oranges do not penetrate that well into the water, so they look like completely different shades.
Great comments, and thanks for sharing! Do you tie yours with the mono eyes, or is that just an extra step? I've since stopped putting them in...and the fish don't seem to mind! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
I know this is 6 years old, but it's still a great video. Thanks Tim!
Glad you enjoyed it, Johnny, and it's crazy to know that some of my videos are over six years old! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Wire worked like a champ for the ribbing.
+Shane Holmes Awesome; thanks for getting back to me!
After watching some scud swimming videos on youtube, it's safe to say that they in fact do straighten out when they swim. However, the curve on the scud hook you use in your tutorial seems to perfectly imitate a swimming scud.
BC Fishing Great information; thanks for sharing this with us! TC
Very nice. Articulate presenter and good information. Thanks for posting this.
+Charles Loftis Thank you for the kind words, Charles, and you're welcome. I had a lot of fun tying this one, and I hope to hear more from you on my other videos. Tim
Thank you for the well rounded scud tutorial ! I myself had a hard time with setting the eyes so tied 2 inches of mono onto my hook with wire (I used copper.) and then melted the eyes. Much easier for my eyes ha ha....
+Shane Holmes Ha ha, yeah, that can be tricky! Thanks for the kind words, Shane, and I hope to hear more from you on some of my other videos. TC
I love the video's! I recently started tying my own flies but unfortunately the local fly shop I go to for everything is going out of business so the only way I can learn is by watching video's like these. This one is on my to-do list after I tie up more Copper John's which is tough (I always have an issue with the wings). I've mastered egg/sucker spawn patterns (live in Steelhead Alley) so it's time to move on to smaller ones like this.
Thanks for the kind words, Jayme Young ; I'm glad I can help. That's too bad that your local fly shop is going out of business...they are great places that really help the sport. Let me know if you ever need any help and/or suggestions, and good luck with the tying. TC
Beautiful work again Tim. This video helps me a lot, because you explain things so well. Thank you Tim.
Aapo
Thank you for taking a moment, Aapo, and I really appreciate the kind words. I hope to hear more from you on some of my other videos. Tim
the eyes are a great touch, I use them on my Damsel nymphs, thanks for the video.
Thanks for the kind words, and glad to know they're used on other types of patterns, too. TC
Excellent tutorial!! Like the attention to detail!!
Awesome looking scud Jim Great tutorial👍
You got it, Jerome, and thanks for ALL of your comments...you rock! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Thanks Tim, I got 2 nice browns po the scud Monday.
Hey Tim, Love the fly. I like the stonfo vise. I considered one, but there were none available around me to check out the quality. I realized the video had some great points. As you are aware I wanted Marc Petitjean's vise from Switzerland. There has never been a complaint and the system is bulletproof. I got one of those coming Monday. Unfortunately, I have hand surgery on April 1st and I will then be able to enjoy it everyday thereafter. Tight lines, Sean
Thanks, Sean, and I agree with you regarding the vises. The Stonfo vise is an incredible tool, and I look forward to tying on it for years to come. I have been tying on it for a couple weeks and am extremely pleased to this point. Let me know how the Petitjean vise is once it arrives. Thanks again, and hope all goes well with your hand surgery. Tim
Great tutorial sir! love the simplicity of some materials in order to achieve a realistic scud.
Thanks; I appreciate the kind words. TC
Nice job Tim,
I use scud patterns in the 12 - 14 range for panfish as well. For trout, I don't use quite as much weight as you do, but do use a sink tip line.
Again - nice work on a simple pattern - less is MORE!! LOL!
Mike
Mike Hadfield Thanks for the kind words, Mike, and I agree...less is more for sure! Tim
Love the picture!!
Do you find that Loon UV gets cloudy with time, it looks great when first applied, but next season you have a milky scud.
Smart idea for the eyes, just saved me alot of money! Lol great video man.
Glad to have helped, Cal; thanks for the kind words! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Hey Tim: Another great video and right on target. So many fly fishers underestimate scuds. I have had great success with a dusty rose oversized scud for pink salmon and I caught my first redfish on the same fly.
Straight Scuds: Was thinking of tying one as a tube fly (on a q-tip) tonight. ;)
Sounds like a winner, Dave, and thanks for the kind words! Just make sure it's a clean q-tip...ha ha! Tim
Good one. Suggest camera closer and lighter color shirt as backround.
Tim,
AWESOME commentary! I wish the other skilled fly-tiers on RUclips would describe things as much as you do. I love your patterns and instruction... my only criticism... with 90% of the population being right-handed, it sure would be nice if we (right-handed folk) could view your videos from the correct perspective, instead of trying to reverse everything in our brains.
Troy
Thanks for the kind words, Troy Hallman ; I really appreciate them. It's great to know that you like all of my descriptions, and it's great knowing that you chose to take time out of your day to mention that. Regarding the videos, I am actually right-handed as well, and know what you mean. From a video perspective, having the camera facing the fly is much easier than placing the camera between the fly and me, hence the image you see. If there is a way for me to reverse the image so you can see if from the other perspective, I'd be happy to do so (I'm positive that the technology is there, though I honestly just don't know enough about it). There are a few early videos out there in which the camera is from my angle, but it was really uncomfortable and I felt that the tying could be improved by the adjustment. Thanks again for the comments. Tim
You are correct. They do swim with an open look. deadly!
Thanks for taking a moment to comment, Joseph. Are you involved with entomology at all? I know just enough about these to be dangerous! Ha ha. Happy new year, and I look forward to hearing more from you on some of my other videos. Tim
Gorgeous but I notice hooks in fish I catch. I also notice osprey catching the same fish. Have you thought of what lead will do to osprey especially young? 😮 Jigs have been found in remote lake loons for decades now. Hmm.
Hi Tim ! Im Guillermo from San Martin de los Andes in the Patagonia. I decided to start tying fly by watching your videos. I already have the tools but i need to buy some products to begin. Can you recommend some of them, just to start.
Thanks a lot, your videos are awesome ! I hope to see you fishing over here some time !
Hi Guillermo, and thanks for the comments! It's tough to know what flies you're going to be fishing with, but for starters, I would recommend dubbing for nymphs (such as Hare's Ear and black SLF Spikey), pheasant tails, peacock herl, and bead heads. For the woolly bugger, you'd need marabou, saddle hackle (or schlappen), and chenille for the body of the pattern. Dry flies are another area, though very specialized to your waters you fish, thus I would start with the nymphs and woolly bugger. If you need more specific recommendations, I would see if there are any fly shops in Patagonia to contact, as they may give you more refined recommendations for the area you're fishing. Good luck, and I'm glad my videos have motivated you! Tim
thanks for taking the time to answer me Tim, i appreciate your advise and i ll let you know how it works for me. I have contacted a fly shop and ask them a few things too.
Thanks a lot again !
Another great fly. Love your videos. Wish we could tie together.
That would be really cool, Russell. Are you attending the International Fly Tying Symposium in New Jersey this year? It is in a couple weekends, and I'll be tying with a class there. www.internationalflytyingsymposium.com/ I think you're further away, but it's a great event. Thanks for the kind words. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Dont scuds in the wild travel backwards? just swimming and scooting around dont they move with their heads facing rearward? is that action enough to cause a fish to shy away from biting?
Great question! I believe they travel backwards to escape, and forward when eating. Typically when fishing, our intention is to represent one drifting helplessly in the current...and fish certainly seem to eat the patterns I use to represent them. Though that drives a larger question: Are they taking these patterns as scuds or another underwater insect? That's one I doubt we'll ever fully determine the answer to. Thanks again! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Great tie. I also like the look of the stonfo vice. Do you find it easy to use?
Thanks for the comment, Dennis, and I really like the Stonfo vise. I have only been using it for a couple weeks, but am really happy with it to this point. Thanks again for the comment. TC
Please be careful, Nathan! TC
Very informative, thanks
You're welcome, and I hope you enjoy some of my other videos, too! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Great nimph,, Like!!
Thanks, Zoran; I appreciate it! TC
Tim, what is the name of the hackle pliers that you are using?
Dave, the pliers are made by Stonfo and I really love them. I believe there are a few online shops that sell them, and I have both the fine and standard size. I tend to use the standard size (grey color) more than the fine (black color), but love them both. Tim
Thanks!
How bout a pair of small tweezers to make the gap a little smaller?? Would that be any much different?
That's a great suggestion, Cal, and one worth trying. Thanks for taking the time to comment and I hope to hear from you on some of my other videos. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Tim Cammisa no thank you, I'm definitely subscribing to you're channel. And thanks for a great video.
Just wondering what brand of fly tying vice is it you are using for this olive scud nymph?
David, the vise is a Stonfo Kaiman. TC
Tim, I have watched many of your videos more than once. I do not remember you saying anything about "fluorocarbon" dropper. I wondered why you choose fluorocarbon? Since it will never degrade should it be lost in the stream or river, what it the advantage of using it? Since most of use catch and release to keep the population up and healthy, I just wondered why use a product that will forever pollute the water if it is lost? I am not an activist or a tree hugger. I believe the planet has ways of healing itself. I am just wondering. All the best, Sean
Sean, thanks for the comment and question. In terms of tippet for nymphs and streamers, the main product I use is fluorocarbon, especially in high-pressured waters. It has a better abrasion resistance and absorbs practically no water, plus it's impervious to UV rays. These are the main reasons I use it, plus the fact that I believe fish are unable to view it as clearly as nylon (I have on proof of that, just my own observations). Regarding the pollution aspect, that's something I don't know as much about and are interested in learning more. Can you share any information in that area? Thanks! Tim
The only thing I know about it is that since it is impervious to uv light it is non degradable. So if you lose a nymph on the river the hook and the fly are going to degrade but the fluorocarbon is there forever! Not something they advertise, many people wouldn't buy it because of that alone. Since I want the fisheries to remain after I have left this earth something that will NEVER degrade is not an option for me.
Sean Mooney Thanks, Sean; I appreciate the information and will look more into this. Tim
do you th¡nk a multi color scud would work
cuase i think you could s|ay fish on one ?
+Redneck Hippie I do, and I think there is a dubbing that has that look you are referring to. It's called "rainbow" dubbing, and has a great look. Do you know of it?
+Tim Cammisa i have but never seem it
Forgot to add the wire was used for the ribbing as well.
+Shane Holmes Did the wire come out all right? Was it an obvious rib?
Scuds spend the vast majority of their time stretched out and straight. The only time a scud is curved is when they are actively swimming, trying to escape a predator. You had mentioned earlier in the video that they are curved as they drift in the current. That is not accurate. Scuds also have 2 antennae off the front where the eyes are located and a large group of legs off the rear. You had mentioned that squirrel that you added was for appendages.
Hi Fly Tyer, and thanks for the insights re: scuds. It sounds like I may have said the description backwards...so glad the trout don't seem to mind! ;-) Tim www.troutandfeather.com
From a fellow fly tyer on youtube..... That's cool man. Im not that prof yet but please check my videos.
Thanks for such kind words, Oliver, and keep your vids coming! TC