My kids and I have learned so much and been so encouraged by reading stories about martyrs and missionaries. We're Baptists, so these people aren't elevated above the status of fellow believers, but the stories are not only fascinating, but they give perspective to our relatively easy, comfortable lives. They're a must in our family, I pray you reconsider them. Christian Heroes Then and Now are written beautifully, and while they get quite real about hard subjects, they've been perfectly appropriate for my 7 and 9 year olds.
Then and now's are amazing!! I am from a pentecostal backround. I just graduated high-school, was homeschooled all the way through (and loved it!!) and just a few months ago my Mom found then and now's. Favorite two are George Muller and Loren Cunningham- but all are great stories! Would definitely recommend 😊
I too feel if we are using stories of fellow saints to teach about perhaps more relatable experiences, or to show how things have developed through history. We study the Word, we also talk Martin Luther on Reformation Day (no Hallows Eve for us, I believe this was a ploy to cover up Reformation day). We would also discuss William Tyndale etc. on various levels as my children age. I'm non denominational, I think I could be considered "Torah Observant" ...at least to my current understanding of the Torah, but not strictly as I don't yet have personal/Biblical proof that Jesus said it was necessary. It's about trying all we can w/o taking away from the scripture, and worship etc. ❤ I am very interested in the Karaites but that's new. Pretty wild if you ask me. They have better adherence to the word it seems, as far as the OT. Though I don't see why some couldn't be Messianic...maybe that's why they are "rare", they are still Karaites but converted to Messianic! 🙏✨🦋
I fully agree with learning about the martyrs, but I understand wanting to use caution and discernment as not to elevate them as to worship them. It has been such a blessing for my kids to understand self sacrifice and the giving of self to The Father and our fellow man. We have been watching Torchlighters as well as Saints and Heroes, but we explain a Saint is a follower of Yeshua, not an elevated human. 😌🙏
@@WomenLivingTorah Fair enough! I love that you are trying to be so careful about what you teach your children and how they are absorbing the things they are learning. :)
Regarding stories on missionaries and martyrs, Matthew 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. Their stories serve as lights in the darkness. We see them living out the faith in the way God made them to in their particular circumstance. Hebrews 10:24 and let us consider how to stimulate one another to love and good deeds. Their stories can be a great way to do this.
We are all saints. So if you mean that way, that's not a bad thing. But if you're thinking of saints as the Catholic way is to, for example, that's what I feel is wrong and anti-Biblical. I also don't know what version you're using. I think that's important when really studying the scripture. Though it's tends to be similar enough, some verses, especially when used for argument's sake can be contextually significant. In my home we observe Martin Luther/Reformation day. As non-denominational Christians, Torah Observant probably works too. No Halloween or Christmas ( though we celebrate Yeshua's birth and time here in his holy human vessel in extra special ways during Sukkot). We do Passover not Easter/Ishtar. Yom Teruah, Yom Kippur...the 7 holy days. But also Hannukah as it is history. "Not Biblical" is inaccurate IMO since Jesus was observing it in the NT, though that was it. It has special significance with the servant candle and letting our light shine as saints! 🕯️❤
I love how you present your opinions/convictions unashamedly WITHOUT sounding like you’re casting judgement on those who have differing beliefs. It makes everything you say immediately more credible 😊
Praise Yah for leading me to your channel!! This is my first video I have watched of yours but I’m excited for others. We are so very similar! I also feel a check about your sixth point!
Excellent list.... 😊 We are also Torah observant homeschoolers as well. I am growing Leary of entertainment as a whole and my spouse and I went to school and are xinnial generation ( where we just feel like Hollywood stars where our family more than our own family and I am sure this is by design boomers were the first generation to have tvs in their home) and are working on cleaning up our home life and understanding we don't need to love our children like our parents but instead we can love them like Yahuah through Yahushua 😊❤ Shalom!
Amen! ❤ I'm still trying to figure out what specifically I feel about being Torah Observant, but it seems like a great way to put it. It was our first year with no Christmas, no Halloween...we did Passover vs Easter/Ishtar the other years. But we do do low key celebrations for Yeshuas birth and life as human on Earth with us, extra focused (vs every day might be any Biblical topic), during Sukkot. It's incredible how the symbolism works for his birth and dwelling in human form! We also celebrated our first Hannukah but it was simply an appreciation of God's miracles with the Maccabean Revolt and the lessons of that, plus the historical value. We don't do gifts for it or dreidel though I'm not against dreidel necessarily. It just isn't necessary. The lighting of the servant candle is an excellent symbol for Jesus and ourselves as saints. 🕯️ But the holy days now take presidence. I've been learning Hebrew and hope to learn some ancient Hebrew one day to study more original texts first hand!!! 😍 We would attend a Messianic Synagogue if anywhere but we are non-denominational gentiles. I have been recently studying Karaites and apparently most people don't know about them. Which I think is intentional. But I think it's worth looking into if interested in what is (traditionally considered Jewish culture) in regard to scripture. ❤ שלום
To me it’s so important to tell the stories of believers who have gone before us. It’s a tragedy that we have lost this teaching in the church and in education in the West. We need the inspiration, courage, and wisdom that so many of these testimonies inspire. More now than ever before I would say. Understanding that different people in different times and cultures related to the Lord in very different ways helps to keep us from becoming arrogant and self righteous in our own ideas about how to live our faith out. Many died for their faith in the Lord - for that reason alone their story should be heard. There’s no need to glorify or idolise any of the ‘saints’ or martyrs their stories are more powerful when we know just how weak and human they were.
I think you make a very important point. Yah is the Great Redeemer and one of the ways He often redeems the deaths of Christian missionaries and martyrs is through the encouragement of all of those who have heard their stories. We also see a parallel in nature. When a plant dies, the seed is scattered, resulting in more fruit, then those plants die, and more seed is scattered. May His Kingdom be throughout the earth!
Hi Raquel, my oldest recently turned 6. I have figured out that I most align with the charlotte mason method of homeschooling as well. I was wondering if you could share some resources you use. Thanks and may Yah bless you!
Thanks for sharing how you are approaching educating your childten. My (Australian) family and I are not fully Torah observant but do observe Shabbat, while still meeting with other local Chrisitans in a house church on Sunday. As far as I know there are no other openly Torah observant Christians in my rural location. I'm with you on the magic - I shared with my children from the Bible and asked them to go through all our DVDs. I didn't want to dictate, all the while hoping & praying they would respond wisely & was amazed at what they chose to dispense with. They are now applying the same to books and music. I asked them to reflect on whether the item in question brings glory to God. I too keep things pretty simple on Fridays. Usually a little work in the morning & things like library visits. My #1 thing I don't do is say home school. We home educate :-) First time listener & subbed.
Thank you for being here and sharing! I used to say home educate, but it feels awkward on my tongue. (Plus doesn’t do well in RUclips search and tags, to be honest.) Did you have that same awkwardness when you first said ‘home educate?’
Hi raquel, would love a video on what books your children read. We are also Torah observant Christians and a lot of books have witchcraft, mermaids, magic etc. So difficult to find good books. Yah Bless x
I'm pretty new to the Christian faith, I was baptized about 4.5 years ago after my oldest was born, but the only "check" I've had about saints was to not pray to them, there have been a few that I feel the Holy Spirit led me to learn about just to see what living a good life looked like because I had no idea where to even start- it was nice to see people who cleaned up their act and were able to be saints (Im thinking of Augustine off the top of my head), at the time I thought no matter what I did I would be completely lost forever. I totally get the no witchcraft thing! My family has been trying to introduce halloween/witches to the kids lately and I have to be the fun ruiner -we dont do that in this house!
1. We use Torah Foundations (Foundations Publications) for a "loose" guideline for our Bible Study. 2. We use various different curricula, some contains Bible guidelines, some does not. We do use science through a Biblical world view, but not always. 3. Same here! I don't even like to touch on mythology, but sometimes we make brief mention to understand cultures. 4. We don't do school Friday either. I agree on the cooking, though I do cook some. I try to make it an easier load. 5. Never heard of a sabbatical schedule. We do year round school. That way, life happens and we need time off. 6. Oh! We don't do that either. It is hard because a lot of Christian stuff talks about it. I try hard to discuss it all with my kids, but I do not teach them there are saints and such. It does feel like idolization. Joan of Arc was one of them. We use The Good and the Beautiful, and it does mention people like St. Patrick and Joan of Arc.
Hi, thank you for this. We are also Torah observant Christian homeschoolers. My oldest is in 2nd grade so im still fairly new at this and trying to figure out what works for us. Bible time has been a real challenge for us. I want us to have time w Yeshua every morning with no agenda or curriclum, just prayer, worship and scriptures and let the Holy Spirit lead. But I feel guilty if I don't include a structured bible curriculum as well. Both seems to be too much. Maybe I need to relax and let go of the idea of the bible as a formal subject for now. Just today I was thinking how awesome our Yeshua time was in the summer when we had no expectations or agenda. We just read from the psalms or proverbs each day together and talked about them. I have fond memories of that time. Now we have a melt down from someone every day by the end of scripture time. Now, I'm trying to have the time like we did this summer, plus the bible part of My Father's world and our Awana stuff. Plus I started out doing Hebrew and Torah class as well. (have dropped those by now) We still do Torah together, just not as a subject. My kids are only 2nd and K, plus a 2 and 1 year old. So I think im trying to do too much w them. This video helped me see its ok not to do a formal bible curriculum. I had never even thought of that.
I homeschooled my 7 children, who are now between the ages of 23 and 35. Besides Pilgrim’s Progress, I also read to them Foxe’s Book of Martyrs, part of Martyrs’ Mirror, and accounts from The Voice of the Martyrs, because I had (have) a gut feeling they will need to know that they are not alone in the world, or alone in history, when it comes to persecution and possible death for choosing to stand for the Truth of Jesus and the Bible. I also wanted them to know that their possible future persecution may very well be coming from people who say they’re religious, “Christians”, or “God’s Chosen People.” Jesus said in John 16:2-4 “…the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God. They will do such things because they have NOT known the Father or Me. I have told you this, so that when their time comes you will remember that I warned you about them.” If we truly believe Jesus here, MANY Jews, Catholics and Reformers, etc. that christians tend to put up on a pedestal (popes, Luther, Zwingli, Calvin, etc.) who have hated and killed people thinking they’re serving God by doing so, have actually never even known the Lord! (It’s not how you start, but how you finish. Rev 2 & 3) That is blasphemy to a lot of people! I wanted my kids to know that those who hate and kill other people in the Name of God, are NOT true believers, and do not have eternal life. “Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates a brother or sister is still in the darkness…Anyone who does not love remains in death. Anyone who hates a brother or sister is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life residing in him.” (1 John 2:9; 3:14,15) I think a day is coming when religious people will once again hate, torture and murder true believers, and I want my kids to not back down from the Truth of Scripture, even if they are persecuted or killed by religious people for their stand. My thoughts and hopes were, “Plant those seeds when they’re young.”
@@Rowdybriar Hi! I think 2 Samuel 23:1-7 answers your question quite nicely. The question for US is what did his Son (the Son of David-Messiah Yeshua) teach us? Tho He said, “I have not come to bring peace, but a sword,” when it actually came to swords in the garden of Gethsemane on THIS present earth, He told his followers to “put your swords away!-all who draw the sword will die by the sword.” (Matt 26:52) The teaching He wanted His followers to adhere to (BEFORE He returns) was, “Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also…love your enemies.” (Mt 5:39,44) “If My kingdom were of THIS world, My servants would fight to prevent My arrest…but My kingdom is from another place.” (Mt 18:36) At THIS time, Yeshua doesn’t want us to hate, fight and kill others for Him (God). We are NOT to resist evil people. If we were to hate, fight or kill religious people who disagree with us, Stephen wouldn’t have been martyred, and Saul (Paul) would have been killed by the Christians he tried to arrest, long before he even had a chance to encounter Jesus on the road to Damascus. It is not our place, at THIS time (before Messiah returns), to take matters into our own hands and dish out just vengeance to those who disagree with us, as the deceived church fathers did (crusades, inquisitions, reformation, etc). BUT, the Day of Vengeance WILL come, and it will be handled by the Son of David (Messiah) as HE sees fit, when He returns. May it be soon and in our day! 🙂 “Do not repay ANYONE evil for evil…live at peace with everyone. Do NOT take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written, ‘It is Mine to avenge; I WILL repay,’ says the LORD (Deut 32:35). On the contrary: If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he’s thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this you will heap burning coals on his head (Prov 25:21,22). Do not be over come by evil, but overcome evil with good.” (Romans 12:17-21) Martyrs of the past and present can be an encouragement to us for what is still to come (…and maybe soon!) “ALL inhabitants of the world will worship the beast…ALL who refused would be killed…This calls for PATIENT ENDURANCE on the part of the saints who obey God’s commands and remain faithful to to Jesus… Blessed are the dead who die in the LORD…” (Rev 13:8,15; 14:12) “If I surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing.” (1 Cor 13:3) “…Messiah (Son of David) suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in His steps…When they hurled their insults at Him, He did not retaliate; when He suffered, He made no threats. Instead, He entrusted Himself to Him who judges justly.” (1 Peter 2:21-23) …Patient endurance… When He comes, He WILL judge justly! Come LORD Jesus! 😌
I would like to add that the children are still learning on Fridays cleaning cooking gardening are practical physical activities just as essential for life as learning to read and write. Just my opinion but as the children grow older learning about church history is essential or they will wonder where the bible came from it didn’t just drop out of the sky but fallible men were used to write it and spread it.There were also catholic folk who loved and followed the Christian beliefs as they knew them . Thanks for your channel always something shared to encourage believers and make them think blessings Marie
As a pronomian christian, I 100% use Christian martyr stories and “saints” in our homeschool. History isn’t perfect but it is history. I hope one day there are pronomian Christians that advance the faith and people hear their stories. To me, these stories are just as much a part of Gods reality as math or science.
I grew up in the Catholic church. Some people did take saints to a worshipping level and prayed to them. It always bugged me and I always felt convicted when we did it during school. We don't know for sure if people made it to heaven. I hope and pray their faith is genuine that they will. I think there can be a happy balance between seeing how Christians walked their faith and using it as an example or a visual, but being careful not put them in the limelight and make them greater than they are. If you don't feel right, respect that check. It's not lawfully wrong, however God knows our hearts and knows if it is something that can become a slippery slope personally. Thanks for sharing your list. 💞
Stumbled on this by accident after a couple of weeks if trying to consider HOW I will prep for the school week and if I can figure out a way to stop doing school work on prep day. And how will my current schedule work out once we are getting into our first year of actually gardening with intent to eat it. So... Interesting timing... am I hearing you well... you dont do school fri- sun? When do you prep your lessons and how long does that take you? We take no traditional school breaks and just take them as the family (OK ME!) Needs them. I E we took of Tabernacles and an entire month when we were planning and moving. Then also a few weeks taken off when we were caring for a litter of 13 puppies. I also don't teach christian core work, but we do use easy peasy as a back up and soft guudeline. It helps to have an idea of when to be working on woth each grade level.
I think it's important not to exclude any aspects of history (age appropriately, of course). I am not Catholic, but the Catholic church was certainly a driving force in history and it's important to understand it to put things into context. Regarding Joan of Arc, I would not personally focus on any sainthood aspect, but she is still a historical figure that I would include.
New to your channel here, I thought #6 was interesting! I homeschool a 7th grader and a 5th grader, and I do use biographies of various leaders of our faith, or Martyrs, missionaries, etc, as well as those of notable people who were Christians and leaders in some way/affected history but not necessarily church history. I feel like in learning those stories, flesh gets put on history and examples of godly living are seen, and how our world has been affected by people of faith. However, I am very careful. Sometimes these "heroes" get idolized or put on a pedestal when they in fact were very human and made mistakes or held prejudices or while they did great things in one area they may have been sinful in another. So we discuss those things and how that person's life did or did not align with scripture, what they could have done differently, etc. My generation, I feel like, was taught about these "heroes" and encouraged to look up to them, but we weren't given the whole picture, and I don't think that was right. The kids I teach are old enough to understand all that, and those conversations have helped them discern the world around them. I can definitely see why someone would want to steer clear of those stories, and ultimately, you are the best judge of what is right for your household as you follow His lead!
I never knew how to state how I feel but I think "Torah Observant" works! ❤ We read stories about saints, the ones of the Bible! 😅 Such as I believe all saved are called saints. But I don't believe we are to venerate saints, it's definitely a heart-check. It's one of those that if you can justify that and aren't doing it to worship or idolize them as you should be Christ, then it's ok IMO. I realized we do talk about Martin Luther around Oct 31, I don't emphasize that he was a saint. When I do mention it (since people call him "saint" as a title..) I mention what that means according to the Word as we know it. As the kids get older I think it's fair to do a read with them and just discuss what that means to them. Right now they are still young and touching on the who and why/what is the main thing. He didn't succeed fully; but he was one of many who tried to stand up to corruption of Christianity. I believe it's William Tyndale that started the concepts that Luther was about...so yeah I talk about significant historical figures for sure. The Bible IS history, as a Christian this is how I see it. It's not just some story made up for pretend. So I do supplemental material as such, about this world and the path to the present. I don't consider Catholic to equate to Christian really...so we do stay away from Catholic curriculum. It's like the witchcraft thing in the sense of its unecessary so why would we? I've personally been learning about the Karaites and it's super interesting! Seems like something I can resonate with (except of course I believe in Yeshua, our Messiah!). I suggest anyone interested in Hebrew faith for sake of Scripture, look into it! 😊
I grew up Lutheran, but I have yet to hear someone call Martin Luther a saint. In the same way as, say, Catholics would talk about "St. Christopher" or "St. Margaret" or "St. Elisabeth of Hungary". If anything, people keep saying how Luther was such an "earthy" personality; anything BUT a "saint". 😉😄 But I'd rather talk about the Reformation than about Halloween anyway. 😉😞
We had started reading a book about some Christian missionaries, and it was so glorified. It didn’t mention that the husband left his family and wife behind for years and only went back once or his drug addition or anything. Yes it was aimed toward elementary but we just feel like the stories make them seem like they are perfect without sin and to be emulated. Christ is the only one we follow not anyone else…
I don't know who you are talking about specifically, but I have heard missionary stories of older days, where the wife and children would return to the "homeland" (often due to the wife's health issues) and the husband stayed on and ministered in Africa or some such place. Back in the olden days... -- Apparently, something like that wasn't so unusual. Back in the days of the British empire, British government officials might be stationed in India- but his wife and children went eventually home to England; and he'd come to visit every four years or so until his retirement/discharge. 😳😳😳 Alternatively, the wife might have also been in India; but the children would be in England in a boarding school. And that was their "normal". 🤷 A Dutch missionary lady told me that her agency "glorified" Hudson Taylor to the point that she and her then-fiance had to postpone their wedding, so that _he_ could go to the mission field first and establish a life there; and then come back, marry her and take her there. Like Hudson Taylor did (at least I think that was who she said). It worked out for them... But seriously, Hudson Taylor's life was/is not the way all missionaries must live. DEscription, not PREscription!
@@thekingsdaughter4233 I don’t remember who it was, but our take away from those books in general are that they glorify the missionary and not Christ so we just stay away from those that are not a whole representation of the person.
Wonderful list! I had my littles watch the part where you talked about how your family does not watch anything to do with witchcraft or magic so they knew they weren't the only kids who did not. I agree 100% with you on the witchcraft and magic. It is so hard to get people to understand my stance even when I share the scriptures with them. I found it very interesting you brought up Joan of ark because just last week I was getting a unit study together for the medieval ages and it recommended we read her story. I also felt uneasy about it and brought it up to my husband and he agreed we should not read it. After doing a bit more research it sure seemed she was not visited by angles but demons, makes sense now why I felt uneasy. We have read some of the martyrs stories, a couple we started we had to stop due to the character of some of the martyrs was not as Christ like as we expected. There have been some that have been good though.
very inspiring, we are coming away from movies 🎥 surrounding magic as a family it's quite a practice but worth it because we don't want to continue to be entangled in magical fairy like things particularly in children's shows❤ very inspiring, we pray for this specific deliverance, children of today are really bombarded with witchcraft and things that are totally opposite of Yah in cartoons
We also don't do any of these things :) I have had a similar feeling about studying Christian "heroes" but for me I think it's just because my kids are so young. I think I might do a little bit if that in highschool grades, but we'll see where The Lord leads!
You should look into who good ole King Jimmy was. Just Google King James freemason. You might never use his translation again. Also research the Septuagint vs Masoretic texts.
#6 Joan of arc is a good example of what some missionary stories do. Not all. She dressed like a man and supposedly Yah blessed that. not all stories are like that. They can focus on things a Torah observant person doesn’t agree with but there are some really good one. Those things can be corrected and edited as you’re reading.
With the very last one! I agree with the saints, it's very Catholic and some mormon thing to do, and they have like special, festivity, celebrations or holidays for them. And as a Christian it's just idolizing and worshiping a human. And there is only one God. However, and just personally. I don't mind myarters but I do love, Perpetuah, Silas (from the bible) and a few other men. Who died because of their faith and work in God. I can't really name some, but if it weren't for them we would never have a bible in English, it would still be in latin or hebrew. And we would have the chance in a few countries to have a place of free worship.
If ye love me, keep my commands (John 14:15) The workers of Iniquity which is to trangress the law(Torah) he says he never knew them and to depart from him (Matthew 7:23). You don't obey the law to get saved however as a fruit of the spirit you do what the instructions instruct you to do. Yehoshua did not come to do away with the law (Matthew 5:17). The fulfillment was him being the sacrifice for us as we are per the Bible deserve death for transgressing the law. No one is perfect however our aim should be to be to try to be perfect by obeying his perfect laws (Psalms 19:7-11).
I could see the benefit of Greek/Roman mythology being loosely taught if you were studying the time period when Jesus walked the Earth since that's what many of the Gentiles believed at the time, so that was part of the world at that time. I know for me, understanding more of the historical/cultural context has helped me to gain a better understanding of Scripture. But I think you just have to use discernment. I would not do this with elementary school kids, but in high school I think this could definitely work. Especially since our culture is still full of symbols and references to Greek/Roman mythology. But I'm of the belief that I would rather my kids hear about something or learn something from me where I can teach it within a Biblical worldview instead of them learning about it elsewhere from a worldly perspective.
😂 I’m actually not in the ‘no Greek mythology ever’ category because I do think there is relevant historical context to it and so many references to it in other literature/phrases- but I definitely take mythologies from more of an educational standpoint than an entertainment one.
@@WomenLivingTorah thank you. Not currently homeschooling here (we have a good Christian school nearby that aligns well enough with our beliefs). But I have heard of homeschooled children not being taught about certain things, and they were either ridiculed for their ignorance - or they themselves were dishing out ad hominem "arguments" such as, "How can you be so stupid and believe in evolution" without being able to give proper reasons _why_ they thought evolution was "stupid". And neither is a good testimony, IMO. Know/learn about it, and learn to filter it through the Bible. 😊👍
Thanks for the question! I believe the ‘new covenant’ with Yeshua/Jesus does not mean the Father’s instructions/law are no longer valid- rather, His Law (Torah) gets written on my heart. (Jeremiah 31:31-33) I delight to do His will! His Law is within my heart! ❤️ (Psalm 40:8)
might be the Ruach Hakodesh guiding you away from the study of martyr. they would be our fellow servants so in that we all turn our focus to the walk of The Messiah❤
Number 6, for us... the "Christian" message is that Jesus did away with the Torah and these "early church" martyrs died while spreading THAT message. So, while its sad that there is violence and hate in this world, they didn't actually die in service to Yah so they aren't heros. And catholic saints... well they have even less to do with the truth! Hope that doesn't sound too harsh, but its always so awkward when my Torah friends start gushing about the martyrs! Nice to find someone with a similar internal check. Yeshua didn't start a church, He reinforced the Father's ways.
Maybe it's the ages of your children and like you said a season. If we had littles, I wouldn't till maybe the high school age and probably bring in the Bible areas where it talks about the apostles and disciples martyred before starting with the rest of church history.... To be truthful I know church history is good to know but I don't like to read those stories myself just not into all the blood and stuff, if that makes sense. I have never read Foxes or even Joan of Arc....I'm sure it is good but I can't handle it.
My kids and I have learned so much and been so encouraged by reading stories about martyrs and missionaries. We're Baptists, so these people aren't elevated above the status of fellow believers, but the stories are not only fascinating, but they give perspective to our relatively easy, comfortable lives. They're a must in our family, I pray you reconsider them. Christian Heroes Then and Now are written beautifully, and while they get quite real about hard subjects, they've been perfectly appropriate for my 7 and 9 year olds.
Then and now's are amazing!! I am from a pentecostal backround. I just graduated high-school, was homeschooled all the way through (and loved it!!) and just a few months ago my Mom found then and now's. Favorite two are George Muller and Loren Cunningham- but all are great stories! Would definitely recommend 😊
I too feel if we are using stories of fellow saints to teach about perhaps more relatable experiences, or to show how things have developed through history. We study the Word, we also talk Martin Luther on Reformation Day (no Hallows Eve for us, I believe this was a ploy to cover up Reformation day). We would also discuss William Tyndale etc. on various levels as my children age.
I'm non denominational, I think I could be considered "Torah Observant" ...at least to my current understanding of the Torah, but not strictly as I don't yet have personal/Biblical proof that Jesus said it was necessary. It's about trying all we can w/o taking away from the scripture, and worship etc. ❤
I am very interested in the Karaites but that's new. Pretty wild if you ask me. They have better adherence to the word it seems, as far as the OT. Though I don't see why some couldn't be Messianic...maybe that's why they are "rare", they are still Karaites but converted to Messianic! 🙏✨🦋
Thank you for sharing! I haven’t completely said ‘no’ to the idea, just trying to be discerning for our family. 😃
I fully agree with learning about the martyrs, but I understand wanting to use caution and discernment as not to elevate them as to worship them. It has been such a blessing for my kids to understand self sacrifice and the giving of self to The Father and our fellow man. We have been watching Torchlighters as well as Saints and Heroes, but we explain a Saint is a follower of Yeshua, not an elevated human. 😌🙏
@@WomenLivingTorah Fair enough! I love that you are trying to be so careful about what you teach your children and how they are absorbing the things they are learning. :)
Regarding stories on missionaries and martyrs,
Matthew 5:16
Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
Their stories serve as lights in the darkness. We see them living out the faith in the way God made them to in their particular circumstance.
Hebrews 10:24
and let us consider how to stimulate one another to love and good deeds.
Their stories can be a great way to do this.
We are all saints. So if you mean that way, that's not a bad thing. But if you're thinking of saints as the Catholic way is to, for example, that's what I feel is wrong and anti-Biblical.
I also don't know what version you're using. I think that's important when really studying the scripture. Though it's tends to be similar enough, some verses, especially when used for argument's sake can be contextually significant.
In my home we observe Martin Luther/Reformation day. As non-denominational Christians, Torah Observant probably works too. No Halloween or Christmas ( though we celebrate Yeshua's birth and time here in his holy human vessel in extra special ways during Sukkot). We do Passover not Easter/Ishtar. Yom Teruah, Yom Kippur...the 7 holy days.
But also Hannukah as it is history. "Not Biblical" is inaccurate IMO since Jesus was observing it in the NT, though that was it. It has special significance with the servant candle and letting our light shine as saints! 🕯️❤
Great points from both of you here!! Thanks for sharing!! 💕
@@ari3lz3ppso are the verses quoted here so very different from those in the translation you are using? 🤔
I love how you present your opinions/convictions unashamedly WITHOUT sounding like you’re casting judgement on those who have differing beliefs. It makes everything you say immediately more credible 😊
Praise Yah for leading me to your channel!! This is my first video I have watched of yours but I’m excited for others. We are so very similar! I also feel a check about your sixth point!
I love this!! 🩷🩷🩷
Excellent list.... 😊 We are also Torah observant homeschoolers as well. I am growing Leary of entertainment as a whole and my spouse and I went to school and are xinnial generation ( where we just feel like Hollywood stars where our family more than our own family and I am sure this is by design boomers were the first generation to have tvs in their home) and are working on cleaning up our home life and understanding we don't need to love our children like our parents but instead we can love them like Yahuah through Yahushua 😊❤ Shalom!
Thank you for sharing!! Yes- let me love our children like our/their Creator loves them!!
Amen! ❤ I'm still trying to figure out what specifically I feel about being Torah Observant, but it seems like a great way to put it.
It was our first year with no Christmas, no Halloween...we did Passover vs Easter/Ishtar the other years.
But we do do low key celebrations for Yeshuas birth and life as human on Earth with us, extra focused (vs every day might be any Biblical topic), during Sukkot. It's incredible how the symbolism works for his birth and dwelling in human form!
We also celebrated our first Hannukah but it was simply an appreciation of God's miracles with the Maccabean Revolt and the lessons of that, plus the historical value. We don't do gifts for it or dreidel though I'm not against dreidel necessarily. It just isn't necessary. The lighting of the servant candle is an excellent symbol for Jesus and ourselves as saints. 🕯️
But the holy days now take presidence.
I've been learning Hebrew and hope to learn some ancient Hebrew one day to study more original texts first hand!!! 😍 We would attend a Messianic Synagogue if anywhere but we are non-denominational gentiles. I have been recently studying Karaites and apparently most people don't know about them. Which I think is intentional. But I think it's worth looking into if interested in what is (traditionally considered Jewish culture) in regard to scripture. ❤
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To me it’s so important to tell the stories of believers who have gone before us. It’s a tragedy that we have lost this teaching in the church and in education in the West.
We need the inspiration, courage, and wisdom that so many of these testimonies inspire. More now than ever before I would say.
Understanding that different people in different times and cultures related to the Lord in very different ways helps to keep us from becoming arrogant and self righteous in our own ideas about how to live our faith out.
Many died for their faith in the Lord - for that reason alone their story should be heard. There’s no need to glorify or idolise any of the ‘saints’ or martyrs their stories are more powerful when we know just how weak and human they were.
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts!! 😊
I think you make a very important point. Yah is the Great Redeemer and one of the ways He often redeems the deaths of Christian missionaries and martyrs is through the encouragement of all of those who have heard their stories. We also see a parallel in nature. When a plant dies, the seed is scattered, resulting in more fruit, then those plants die, and more seed is scattered. May His Kingdom be throughout the earth!
Hi Raquel, my oldest recently turned 6. I have figured out that I most align with the charlotte mason method of homeschooling as well. I was wondering if you could share some resources you use. Thanks and may Yah bless you!
I have a video with books we read. Just search my name with Charlotte Mason homeschool books, and it should come up! 😊
Thanks for sharing how you are approaching educating your childten. My (Australian) family and I are not fully Torah observant but do observe Shabbat, while still meeting with other local Chrisitans in a house church on Sunday. As far as I know there are no other openly Torah observant Christians in my rural location. I'm with you on the magic - I shared with my children from the Bible and asked them to go through all our DVDs. I didn't want to dictate, all the while hoping & praying they would respond wisely & was amazed at what they chose to dispense with. They are now applying the same to books and music. I asked them to reflect on whether the item in question brings glory to God. I too keep things pretty simple on Fridays. Usually a little work in the morning & things like library visits. My #1 thing I don't do is say home school. We home educate :-) First time listener & subbed.
Thank you for being here and sharing! I used to say home educate, but it feels awkward on my tongue. (Plus doesn’t do well in RUclips search and tags, to be honest.) Did you have that same awkwardness when you first said ‘home educate?’
Hi raquel, would love a video on what books your children read. We are also Torah observant Christians and a lot of books have witchcraft, mermaids, magic etc. So difficult to find good books. Yah Bless x
I'm pretty new to the Christian faith, I was baptized about 4.5 years ago after my oldest was born, but the only "check" I've had about saints was to not pray to them, there have been a few that I feel the Holy Spirit led me to learn about just to see what living a good life looked like because I had no idea where to even start- it was nice to see people who cleaned up their act and were able to be saints (Im thinking of Augustine off the top of my head), at the time I thought no matter what I did I would be completely lost forever. I totally get the no witchcraft thing! My family has been trying to introduce halloween/witches to the kids lately and I have to be the fun ruiner -we dont do that in this house!
1. We use Torah Foundations (Foundations Publications) for a "loose" guideline for our Bible Study.
2. We use various different curricula, some contains Bible guidelines, some does not. We do use science through a Biblical world view, but not always.
3. Same here! I don't even like to touch on mythology, but sometimes we make brief mention to understand cultures.
4. We don't do school Friday either. I agree on the cooking, though I do cook some. I try to make it an easier load.
5. Never heard of a sabbatical schedule. We do year round school. That way, life happens and we need time off.
6. Oh! We don't do that either. It is hard because a lot of Christian stuff talks about it. I try hard to discuss it all with my kids, but I do not teach them there are saints and such. It does feel like idolization. Joan of Arc was one of them. We use The Good and the Beautiful, and it does mention people like St. Patrick and Joan of Arc.
I loved hearing your take on each of these things! Thanks for sharing!!
We use Lessons in Yeshua’s Torah and it has helped me to facilitate discussions.
I’ll have to check this resource out. Thanks!!
Thanks for sharing as always...
Thank you for watching!!
Hi, thank you for this. We are also Torah observant Christian homeschoolers. My oldest is in 2nd grade so im still fairly new at this and trying to figure out what works for us. Bible time has been a real challenge for us. I want us to have time w Yeshua every morning with no agenda or curriclum, just prayer, worship and scriptures and let the Holy Spirit lead. But I feel guilty if I don't include a structured bible curriculum as well. Both seems to be too much. Maybe I need to relax and let go of the idea of the bible as a formal subject for now. Just today I was thinking how awesome our Yeshua time was in the summer when we had no expectations or agenda. We just read from the psalms or proverbs each day together and talked about them. I have fond memories of that time. Now we have a melt down from someone every day by the end of scripture time. Now, I'm trying to have the time like we did this summer, plus the bible part of My Father's world and our Awana stuff. Plus I started out doing Hebrew and Torah class as well. (have dropped those by now) We still do Torah together, just not as a subject. My kids are only 2nd and K, plus a 2 and 1 year old. So I think im trying to do too much w them. This video helped me see its ok not to do a formal bible curriculum. I had never even thought of that.
Well said!! Another Torah observant homeschooling mama in N. Idaho!🙌🏻
❤️ Shalom, sister!!
These are so helpful, our middle son is about to start homeschooling next year so I am going to keep these mind ❤
Awesome!! May YHVH bless your endeavors!!
I homeschooled my 7 children, who are now between the ages of 23 and 35.
Besides Pilgrim’s Progress, I also read to them Foxe’s Book of Martyrs, part of Martyrs’ Mirror, and accounts from The Voice of the Martyrs, because I had (have) a gut feeling they will need to know that they are not alone in the world, or alone in history, when it comes to persecution and possible death for choosing to stand for the Truth of Jesus and the Bible.
I also wanted them to know that their possible future persecution may very well be coming from people who say they’re religious, “Christians”, or “God’s Chosen People.”
Jesus said in John 16:2-4
“…the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God. They will do such things because they have NOT known the Father or Me. I have told you this, so that when their time comes you will remember that I warned you about them.”
If we truly believe Jesus here, MANY Jews, Catholics and Reformers, etc. that christians tend to put up on a pedestal (popes, Luther, Zwingli, Calvin, etc.) who have hated and killed people thinking they’re serving God by doing so, have actually never even known the Lord! (It’s not how you start, but how you finish. Rev 2 & 3)
That is blasphemy to a lot of people!
I wanted my kids to know that those who hate and kill other people in the Name of God, are NOT true believers, and do not have eternal life.
“Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates a brother or sister is still in the darkness…Anyone who does not love remains in death. Anyone who hates a brother or sister is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life residing in him.”
(1 John 2:9; 3:14,15)
I think a day is coming when religious people will once again hate, torture and murder true believers, and I want my kids to not back down from the Truth of Scripture, even if they are persecuted or killed by religious people for their stand.
My thoughts and hopes were, “Plant those seeds when they’re young.”
@sunsetfree5358 So do you think King David was saved?
@@Rowdybriar
Hi!
I think 2 Samuel 23:1-7 answers your question quite nicely.
The question for US is what did his Son (the Son of David-Messiah Yeshua) teach us?
Tho He said, “I have not come to bring peace, but a sword,” when it actually came to swords in the garden of Gethsemane on THIS present earth, He told his followers to “put your swords away!-all who draw the sword will die by the sword.” (Matt 26:52)
The teaching He wanted His followers to adhere to (BEFORE He returns) was, “Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also…love your enemies.” (Mt 5:39,44)
“If My kingdom were of THIS world, My servants would fight to prevent My arrest…but My kingdom is from another place.” (Mt 18:36)
At THIS time, Yeshua doesn’t want us to hate, fight and kill others for Him (God).
We are NOT to resist evil people. If we were to hate, fight or kill religious people who disagree with us, Stephen wouldn’t have been martyred, and Saul (Paul) would have been killed by the Christians he tried to arrest, long before he even had a chance to encounter Jesus on the road to Damascus.
It is not our place, at THIS time (before Messiah returns), to take matters into our own hands and dish out just vengeance to those who disagree with us, as the deceived church fathers did (crusades, inquisitions, reformation, etc).
BUT, the Day of Vengeance WILL come, and it will be handled by the Son of David (Messiah) as HE sees fit, when He returns.
May it be soon and in our day! 🙂
“Do not repay ANYONE evil for evil…live at peace with everyone. Do NOT take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written, ‘It is Mine to avenge; I WILL repay,’ says the LORD (Deut 32:35). On the contrary: If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he’s thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this you will heap burning coals on his head (Prov 25:21,22). Do not be over come by evil, but overcome evil with good.”
(Romans 12:17-21)
Martyrs of the past and present can be an encouragement to us for what is still to come (…and maybe soon!)
“ALL inhabitants of the world will worship the beast…ALL who refused would be killed…This calls for PATIENT ENDURANCE on the part of the saints who obey God’s commands and remain faithful to to Jesus… Blessed are the dead who die in the LORD…”
(Rev 13:8,15; 14:12)
“If I surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing.”
(1 Cor 13:3)
“…Messiah (Son of David) suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in His steps…When they hurled their insults at Him, He did not retaliate; when He suffered, He made no threats. Instead, He entrusted Himself to Him who judges justly.”
(1 Peter 2:21-23)
…Patient endurance…
When He comes, He WILL judge justly!
Come LORD Jesus! 😌
Your response is very thought provoking. Thank you! 😊
I would like to add that the children are still learning on Fridays cleaning cooking gardening are practical physical activities just as essential for life as learning to read and write.
Just my opinion but as the children grow older learning about church history is essential or they will wonder where the bible came from it didn’t just drop out of the sky but fallible men were used to write it and spread it.There were also catholic folk who loved and followed the Christian beliefs as they knew them . Thanks for your channel always something shared to encourage believers and make them think blessings Marie
Thank you so much for sharing, sister!! ❤️
As a pronomian christian, I 100% use Christian martyr stories and “saints” in our homeschool. History isn’t perfect but it is history. I hope one day there are pronomian Christians that advance the faith and people hear their stories.
To me, these stories are just as much a part of Gods reality as math or science.
I grew up in the Catholic church. Some people did take saints to a worshipping level and prayed to them. It always bugged me and I always felt convicted when we did it during school.
We don't know for sure if people made it to heaven. I hope and pray their faith is genuine that they will.
I think there can be a happy balance between seeing how Christians walked their faith and using it as an example or a visual, but being careful not put them in the limelight and make them greater than they are.
If you don't feel right, respect that check. It's not lawfully wrong, however God knows our hearts and knows if it is something that can become a slippery slope personally.
Thanks for sharing your list. 💞
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts! 💕
Stumbled on this by accident after a couple of weeks if trying to consider HOW I will prep for the school week and if I can figure out a way to stop doing school work on prep day. And how will my current schedule work out once we are getting into our first year of actually gardening with intent to eat it. So... Interesting timing... am I hearing you well... you dont do school fri- sun? When do you prep your lessons and how long does that take you?
We take no traditional school breaks and just take them as the family (OK ME!) Needs them. I E we took of Tabernacles and an entire month when we were planning and moving. Then also a few weeks taken off when we were caring for a litter of 13 puppies. I also don't teach christian core work, but we do use easy peasy as a back up and soft guudeline. It helps to have an idea of when to be working on woth each grade level.
Thank you for watching! Praise the Lord for His timing! 😊 Blessings!!
I think it's important not to exclude any aspects of history (age appropriately, of course). I am not Catholic, but the Catholic church was certainly a driving force in history and it's important to understand it to put things into context. Regarding Joan of Arc, I would not personally focus on any sainthood aspect, but she is still a historical figure that I would include.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts!! 😊
New to your channel here, I thought #6 was interesting! I homeschool a 7th grader and a 5th grader, and I do use biographies of various leaders of our faith, or Martyrs, missionaries, etc, as well as those of notable people who were Christians and leaders in some way/affected history but not necessarily church history. I feel like in learning those stories, flesh gets put on history and examples of godly living are seen, and how our world has been affected by people of faith.
However, I am very careful. Sometimes these "heroes" get idolized or put on a pedestal when they in fact were very human and made mistakes or held prejudices or while they did great things in one area they may have been sinful in another. So we discuss those things and how that person's life did or did not align with scripture, what they could have done differently, etc. My generation, I feel like, was taught about these "heroes" and encouraged to look up to them, but we weren't given the whole picture, and I don't think that was right.
The kids I teach are old enough to understand all that, and those conversations have helped them discern the world around them.
I can definitely see why someone would want to steer clear of those stories, and ultimately, you are the best judge of what is right for your household as you follow His lead!
Thank you so much for sharing your experiences and thoughts!! 💕
Good job on number 3. That should be a no brainer but so many “Christian’s” are lost in that.
Thank you for watching!! 😊
I never knew how to state how I feel but I think "Torah Observant" works! ❤ We read stories about saints, the ones of the Bible! 😅 Such as I believe all saved are called saints. But I don't believe we are to venerate saints, it's definitely a heart-check.
It's one of those that if you can justify that and aren't doing it to worship or idolize them as you should be Christ, then it's ok IMO.
I realized we do talk about Martin Luther around Oct 31, I don't emphasize that he was a saint. When I do mention it (since people call him "saint" as a title..) I mention what that means according to the Word as we know it. As the kids get older I think it's fair to do a read with them and just discuss what that means to them.
Right now they are still young and touching on the who and why/what is the main thing. He didn't succeed fully; but he was one of many who tried to stand up to corruption of Christianity. I believe it's William Tyndale that started the concepts that Luther was about...so yeah I talk about significant historical figures for sure.
The Bible IS history, as a Christian this is how I see it. It's not just some story made up for pretend. So I do supplemental material as such, about this world and the path to the present. I don't consider Catholic to equate to Christian really...so we do stay away from Catholic curriculum. It's like the witchcraft thing in the sense of its unecessary so why would we?
I've personally been learning about the Karaites and it's super interesting! Seems like something I can resonate with (except of course I believe in Yeshua, our Messiah!). I suggest anyone interested in Hebrew faith for sake of Scripture, look into it! 😊
Thank you for taking the time to comment this thoughtful reply. 😃
I grew up Lutheran, but I have yet to hear someone call Martin Luther a saint. In the same way as, say, Catholics would talk about "St. Christopher" or "St. Margaret" or "St. Elisabeth of Hungary". If anything, people keep saying how Luther was such an "earthy" personality; anything BUT a "saint". 😉😄 But I'd rather talk about the Reformation than about Halloween anyway. 😉😞
We had started reading a book about some Christian missionaries, and it was so glorified. It didn’t mention that the husband left his family and wife behind for years and only went back once or his drug addition or anything. Yes it was aimed toward elementary but we just feel like the stories make them seem like they are perfect without sin and to be emulated. Christ is the only one we follow not anyone else…
Wow…
I don't know who you are talking about specifically, but I have heard missionary stories of older days, where the wife and children would return to the "homeland" (often due to the wife's health issues) and the husband stayed on and ministered in Africa or some such place. Back in the olden days... -- Apparently, something like that wasn't so unusual. Back in the days of the British empire, British government officials might be stationed in India- but his wife and children went eventually home to England; and he'd come to visit every four years or so until his retirement/discharge. 😳😳😳 Alternatively, the wife might have also been in India; but the children would be in England in a boarding school. And that was their "normal". 🤷 A Dutch missionary lady told me that her agency "glorified" Hudson Taylor to the point that she and her then-fiance had to postpone their wedding, so that _he_ could go to the mission field first and establish a life there; and then come back, marry her and take her there. Like Hudson Taylor did (at least I think that was who she said). It worked out for them... But seriously, Hudson Taylor's life was/is not the way all missionaries must live. DEscription, not PREscription!
@@thekingsdaughter4233 I don’t remember who it was, but our take away from those books in general are that they glorify the missionary and not Christ so we just stay away from those that are not a whole representation of the person.
Wonderful list! I had my littles watch the part where you talked about how your family does not watch anything to do with witchcraft or magic so they knew they weren't the only kids who did not. I agree 100% with you on the witchcraft and magic. It is so hard to get people to understand my stance even when I share the scriptures with them. I found it very interesting you brought up Joan of ark because just last week I was getting a unit study together for the medieval ages and it recommended we read her story. I also felt uneasy about it and brought it up to my husband and he agreed we should not read it. After doing a bit more research it sure seemed she was not visited by angles but demons, makes sense now why I felt uneasy. We have read some of the martyrs stories, a couple we started we had to stop due to the character of some of the martyrs was not as Christ like as we expected. There have been some that have been good though.
Interesting!!! Thank you for sharing your experience with this as well…. 🤔 🤔
You might want to look into what you are actually saying when you refer to children as the L word 🤮
@@katie7748 _"L_ word"?!?
very inspiring, we are coming away from movies 🎥 surrounding magic as a family it's quite a practice but worth it because we don't want to continue to be entangled in magical fairy like things particularly in children's shows❤
very inspiring, we pray for this specific deliverance, children of today are really bombarded with witchcraft and things that are totally opposite of Yah in cartoons
Very true!! 🙏 So many children’s movies make witchcraft look ‘entertaining.’ The problem is that’s it’s REAL, and YHVH says not to mess with it!!
We also don't do any of these things :) I have had a similar feeling about studying Christian "heroes" but for me I think it's just because my kids are so young. I think I might do a little bit if that in highschool grades, but we'll see where The Lord leads!
Exactly!! Yes!! Follow the Lord where He leads! 🙌
You should look into who good ole King Jimmy was. Just Google King James freemason. You might never use his translation again. Also research the Septuagint vs Masoretic texts.
#6 Joan of arc is a good example of what some missionary stories do. Not all. She dressed like a man and supposedly Yah blessed that. not all stories are like that. They can focus on things a Torah observant person doesn’t agree with but there are some really good one. Those things can be corrected and edited as you’re reading.
I’m curious if you have a booklist for non-magical books?
No…. I do have a video about types of books we DO read, though. 🤔
We do read martyrdom stories from the time my children are young.
Thank you for sharing! 😊
With the very last one! I agree with the saints, it's very Catholic and some mormon thing to do, and they have like special, festivity, celebrations or holidays for them.
And as a Christian it's just idolizing and worshiping a human. And there is only one God.
However, and just personally. I don't mind myarters but I do love, Perpetuah, Silas (from the bible) and a few other men. Who died because of their faith and work in God. I can't really name some, but if it weren't for them we would never have a bible in English, it would still be in latin or hebrew.
And we would have the chance in a few countries to have a place of free worship.
Great points!! Thank you for sharing!!
If a person tries to be justified by Torah Observant lifestyle, they can FALL from GRACE(Galatians 5:4).
If ye love me, keep my commands (John 14:15) The workers of Iniquity which is to trangress the law(Torah) he says he never knew them and to depart from him (Matthew 7:23). You don't obey the law to get saved however as a fruit of the spirit you do what the instructions instruct you to do. Yehoshua did not come to do away with the law (Matthew 5:17). The fulfillment was him being the sacrifice for us as we are per the Bible deserve death for transgressing the law. No one is perfect however our aim should be to be to try to be perfect by obeying his perfect laws (Psalms 19:7-11).
Because I am justified by the blood of Messiah Yeshua, I walk as a new creation with new works! (Ephesians 2:8-10)
I was waiting on “no Greek mythology”. Great list!
I could see the benefit of Greek/Roman mythology being loosely taught if you were studying the time period when Jesus walked the Earth since that's what many of the Gentiles believed at the time, so that was part of the world at that time.
I know for me, understanding more of the historical/cultural context has helped me to gain a better understanding of Scripture.
But I think you just have to use discernment. I would not do this with elementary school kids, but in high school I think this could definitely work. Especially since our culture is still full of symbols and references to Greek/Roman mythology.
But I'm of the belief that I would rather my kids hear about something or learn something from me where I can teach it within a Biblical worldview instead of them learning about it elsewhere from a worldly perspective.
😂 I’m actually not in the ‘no Greek mythology ever’ category because I do think there is relevant historical context to it and so many references to it in other literature/phrases- but I definitely take mythologies from more of an educational standpoint than an entertainment one.
@@WomenLivingTorah thank you. Not currently homeschooling here (we have a good Christian school nearby that aligns well enough with our beliefs). But I have heard of homeschooled children not being taught about certain things, and they were either ridiculed for their ignorance - or they themselves were dishing out ad hominem "arguments" such as, "How can you be so stupid and believe in evolution" without being able to give proper reasons _why_ they thought evolution was "stupid". And neither is a good testimony, IMO. Know/learn about it, and learn to filter it through the Bible. 😊👍
So you follow the old covenant even though Jesus brought us the new covenant? 🤔
Thanks for the question! I believe the ‘new covenant’ with Yeshua/Jesus does not mean the Father’s instructions/law are no longer valid- rather, His Law (Torah) gets written on my heart. (Jeremiah 31:31-33) I delight to do His will! His Law is within my heart! ❤️ (Psalm 40:8)
Why not NKJV? Is it because of a he omission of YHVH? And other names?
I listen to NKJV in audiobook. I don’t have a problem with it, just not what we read/memorize from… 🤷♀️ haha 😊
might be the Ruach Hakodesh guiding you away from the study of martyr. they would be our fellow servants so in that we all turn our focus to the walk of The Messiah❤
Yeah, I don’t really have clarity on it yet… but doesn’t hurt to ‘not do it’ right now. 😊 Shalom!!
Number 6, for us... the "Christian" message is that Jesus did away with the Torah and these "early church" martyrs died while spreading THAT message. So, while its sad that there is violence and hate in this world, they didn't actually die in service to Yah so they aren't heros. And catholic saints... well they have even less to do with the truth! Hope that doesn't sound too harsh, but its always so awkward when my Torah friends start gushing about the martyrs! Nice to find someone with a similar internal check. Yeshua didn't start a church, He reinforced the Father's ways.
Yes, I think this is part of why I feel a check… thank you for sharing!!
Maybe it's the ages of your children and like you said a season. If we had littles, I wouldn't till maybe the high school age and probably bring in the Bible areas where it talks about the apostles and disciples martyred before starting with the rest of church history.... To be truthful I know church history is good to know but I don't like to read those stories myself just not into all the blood and stuff, if that makes sense. I have never read Foxes or even Joan of Arc....I'm sure it is good but I can't handle it.
Yeah, perhaps! I don’t have clarity on it, so we’re not doing it for now. Just trying to stay sensitive to the Holy Spirit and discerning. 🙏
Please look into what you are actually saying when you refer to children as the L word 🤮