How to commentate Melee: - Reminisce about the old days - Make fun of your co-commentators - "I miss the old Mang0" - Say "Nice back air" every couple of minutes - Say "This could be it" when it's last stock - Summarize the set so far between games - Optional: Describe what's happening on screen
Take this as you will, but earlier on his stream Mango said he was not throwing when he picked Doc. He said he was really trying to win with Doc because he felt like if he used Fox that he was for sure getting destroyed. He didn’t want to DQ and give up but he thought what would it hurt to try something new.
@@mr._otis9840 You're definitely more reasonable than some of the users on Reddit. They don't want to hear anything other than universal agreement that Mango 100% was throwing.
@@itsbmeGamingit’s a b1tch move by Mang0. He literally creates a lose-lose situation for the opponent. If he loses he was always throwing, if he wins he is the goat. The Schrödinger Throw.
Unironically I think Mango can actually make this Doc matchup work against Hbox if he really tried, he dropped so much Doc stuff yet somehow took a game from him.
I feel like people just say “plat camp” like it’s the kryptonite of all low tiers. I think people with that mindset will eat their words as low tier players get better. I mean for gods sake people still play the Peach Puff matchup.
Seriously loved the commentators. Being in the smash scene 2013-2017 their comments about Mango winning with fox, one of the commentators being a side chick because he’s cheering for the old mango? Hahaha, I loved it. So much history between Hbox and Mango. I personally really miss the old Melee “Gods” and all the tensions leading up to Evo. Thank you for the vid. Brought back some fun memories.
I prefer Mango more though because the guy has used so many characters to a very extreme level...Jigglypuff, Falco, Mario...he is a legend. The way he attacks and calculates and does things like a boss, so cool.
I was a doc main when I played melee and always though this mtahcup slwas close for doc. You just need to have the patience and obviously creativity. This was so awesome to see and something I think only mango could do rn, since hbox is such a seasoned player.
@@Insane_Kane well if I’m not mistaken he was an engineering major at a pretty top notch school before dropping out to go full time with smash/RUclips. He was pretty high in ranking as well. I think he sometimes acts more dumb for his views and such
WHY WASN'T SCAR THERE!!! The People's champ. First game as doc, last stock jigglypuff death. Yo yo yo. Did he just walk up slowly... and downsmash!!! Bro bring back that old meta. 3:05
Smash brothers ultimate is the newest game and is on the Nintendo switch. Or you could go into melee which is a bit more complicated due to needing a good PC. Either one is fine but both have pros and cons
bro all these comments like "hol up mang0's doc can actually win" completely missing the point in game 4 where hbox just decides "welp im done with this time to win now" and doc had no answers to it
I think Hbox threw game 3 for the fans and I respect it if he did. By throw I dont mean he did anything super intentional but maybe not DI properly after every hit maybe try and experiment a little with follow ups. If he didn't then thats cool as well.
I disagree, I felt that he knew mango was sandbagging and kinda paid chill. And mango decided to actually try hard when hbox thought he was just fucking around. Overall kinda wack of mango disrespecting hbox like this. Imagine if zain pulled out roy on mango, people would call out disrespect instantly.
@@Hank_Khanab_Ame Eh I dont know. I mean I get what you mean but Mango is not Zain. Once mango gets in that mood he will play random characters. I dont see it as disrespectful because its mango and he has done this for years.
@@Hank_Khanab_Ame no they wouldn’t lmao people only ever talk shit about “throwing” when mang0 doesn’t play fox/falco. When zain enters as donttestme everyone loves it. It’s not disrespectful to play who you want you’re just projecting. Hbox would rather play his doc than win by dq
@@Hank_Khanab_Ame I can grantee two things: 1. Hbox did not take Mang0 completely seriously the third game 2. He knew better than to do that twice Hbox could have easily lost if Mang0 got his mojo back and played cracked out
Gotta love commentators that don’t actually comment on the game itself and talk like it’s some shitty podcast. I like color commentary but actually incorporate it along with what’s happening in the game.
@@jake9107 I traded it in for a white collar position years ago lol. It ain't famous rapper money, but $200k is better than starving for sure 😂. What made you ask that?
Am I just new to Melee or does it seem extremely odd and diminishing that the players are DEEP into the second stock before any of the 4 commentators say the first word about the actual set? Talking instead about gold and wedding rings and stuff? But then again, when you're volunteering for something like this and not getting paid, I guess your #1 priority is literally to hear yourself talk.
I agree, but there also isn't much to commentate. Watching someone play puff or fox is like watching paint dry. This is actually the first time I've seen dr mario being played.
All these people who have been "Watching for years" and they cant tell if mang0 was throwing, hbox only gave a game because he was bagging, or if mang0 genuinely thought it was his best odds. Lmao
Hbox came to the casters after getting sent to losers (I think), and he talked about just going full degen camp mode. The theory by the commentators was that Mango heard of this and just couldn't be bothered spending all his mental energy playing a campy Hbox, especially after being sent to losers by Cody.
Nah he was playing kinda bad all weekend and even before he already prejohned “I thought I could force myself to care but I currently do not have that dog in me” loll. He lost to cody in winners and just lost it from there. His fox wasn’t gonna beat hbox for sure so just went with doc
It's a defense mechanism that he uses to make himself feel better because it's less taxing on his ego to say "I lost because I didn't care" than "I lost because the other player outplayed me".
@@coffeewithginseng3812I mean if he’s been playing like shit may as well try something else. I doubt theres anyone worse to play than hbox after a shitty run.
These commentators arw ridiculous like lets focus on the match and commentate on the match. Maybe watch tasty steve to get an idea of what a good commentator sounds like
Mang0 fans furiously eating apples from now on to prevent this from ever happening again
One of the smartest comments this channel has ever gotten
You have won the internet. Congratulations.
Damn lol
Are you kidding? Doc lee goes crazy catch me being Apple free if it means seeing more of the doc
I’m not eating any apples. Mango does what Mango does and I’m here for it, and I have been since around 2009.
I was at LACS5, right after this set MangO walked by a few people and said "Give my doc one week and he's done." That's the Mang0
False promises, that's the Mang0
You can see Mango starting to believe as the set goes on lol
If he won this set, he might have actually tried the rest of the run 😂
PPMD: What is he doing?
M2K: He's starting to believe.
@@four-en-teereddit moment
That's just because he's a narcissist
Everything changes with time, but Melee commentators being unprofessional and talking about everything except the match itself? That’s timeless.
That's why they're the best.
I kind of like the periodic tangents. Its video game brain at its core
@@beezymeech “Periodic” doesn’t mean “for the entire match” though, which is what happened in this video.
Its like they think its a podcast with gameplay in the background
“I don’t want either of them on the couch”
The way Mang0 uses Dr. Mario kinda reminds me of Scorpion Master's Mario
I hope you're trolling, they play nothing alike, no offense to Mango
I see it but Scorp has way more experience with Mario. Would love to see Scorp Mario vs Mang0 Doc. That’d be hype
I'm about to blow your guys mind....
Scorp’s Mario would clear Mango’s doc easy. You can’t compare those two in Mario skills.
It's weird that we've never seem them compete with each other. In fact, they've never even been in the same room at once.
This is one of those things that Mango is going to bring up years later in his Juan rants.
How to commentate Melee:
- Reminisce about the old days
- Make fun of your co-commentators
- "I miss the old Mang0"
- Say "Nice back air" every couple of minutes
- Say "This could be it" when it's last stock
- Summarize the set so far between games
- Optional: Describe what's happening on screen
Theres nothing i fear more than the idea that Mango might be in his Jordan Wizards era
Armada never had eras of throwing and being a moody man child btw
@@jakepalmer8201 😂😂
@@jakepalmer8201it ain’t that deep lol
@@jakepalmer8201mang0 never went through an era of being european
@@the101stgec7 I think that's actually an advantage for Armada lol. Dude used to lose to Armada on his home court...
The way Hbox looks at Mang0 in the thumbnail kills me
“Mango, I don’t know man.. you’ve been really SUS lately.”
I think Hbox knows Mang0 is a way better player than he was playing.
Juan seemed genuinely curious what was going on with Mang0.
Its that man crush he has for him. I absolutely love these 2 together though. When they commentated coinbox together it was gold.
Hungrybox shared this pic on Twitter and it’s freaking hilarious. 😂
Especially with Mang0’s response.
repent to God g
Take this as you will, but earlier on his stream Mango said he was not throwing when he picked Doc. He said he was really trying to win with Doc because he felt like if he used Fox that he was for sure getting destroyed. He didn’t want to DQ and give up but he thought what would it hurt to try something new.
Considering that he gives Palpa's puff a hard time with Doc I think he felt somewhat confident.
@@mr._otis9840 You're definitely more reasonable than some of the users on Reddit. They don't want to hear anything other than universal agreement that Mango 100% was throwing.
@@itsbmeGamingreal. I mean look at his face at the end of that Yoshis game 💀
@@itsbmeGamingit’s a b1tch move by Mang0. He literally creates a lose-lose situation for the opponent. If he loses he was always throwing, if he wins he is the goat. The Schrödinger Throw.
@@Supertaldo916hey man, if it makes you feel any better, he’s the goat regardless
Unironically I think Mango can actually make this Doc matchup work against Hbox if he really tried, he dropped so much Doc stuff yet somehow took a game from him.
Hbox could camp Doc easy if he wanted to win.
@@tylercaseathis
The exact moment hbox started to camp the set ended. This shit is not viable, especially vs someone like hbox
With puff in the air so often fair is pretty much your only kill option. Ganon would fair better
I feel like people just say “plat camp” like it’s the kryptonite of all low tiers.
I think people with that mindset will eat their words as low tier players get better.
I mean for gods sake people still play the Peach Puff matchup.
3:06 DID HE-
He did
That’s the Mang0
he really did though
Seriously loved the commentators. Being in the smash scene 2013-2017 their comments about Mango winning with fox, one of the commentators being a side chick because he’s cheering for the old mango? Hahaha, I loved it. So much history between Hbox and Mango. I personally really miss the old Melee “Gods” and all the tensions leading up to Evo. Thank you for the vid. Brought back some fun memories.
Have ya watched the Melee documentary?
@@aleseaux Yep! Watched it in episodic form when it was coming out
I'd love them too if they actually commentated the match.
this is the most ultimate set of melee I’ve ever seen
ayo scorp got his phd?
Two legendary Smash Bros Melee players.
I prefer Mango more though because the guy has used so many characters to a very extreme level...Jigglypuff, Falco, Mario...he is a legend. The way he attacks and calculates and does things like a boss, so cool.
As a doc main this means a lot to me
I was a doc main when I played melee and always though this mtahcup slwas close for doc. You just need to have the patience and obviously creativity. This was so awesome to see and something I think only mango could do rn, since hbox is such a seasoned player.
If mango had Franzs doc knowledge he woulda won lowkey
Wonder if even just a couple notes could've swing it🤔
I wish he'd use his Puff as this throw character. Would have been hilarious against Hbox.
I can't see why you would subject yourself to a puff ditto if you're fucking around
nah then it seems like salt and just looks pathetic. Mew2king made that mistake.
@@noahmay7708 Nah fam. Mew2King and Mang0 have 2 totally different vibes. Everybody loves seeing the Mang0 Puff.
The ditto is ass
He wasn't throwing apparently
0:44 feasting on this doctor mario string
dr mario is underrated. he is pretty good and lots of fun
Dr. Scorpion Master at it again! Hoping to see more Mang0 Doc in the future lol
welp he got his 1 win lol
There's so much more doc to be played
Bro juan went into this tourney with almost no Melee practice props to both of them
Interesting podcast, why is there smash in the background?
“He’s not saving any lives. Look at how fucking slow he is” rofl
the one time doc sees the light the commentators do everything but commentate besides a late up-b
There's always that moment when Hbox figures you out and then it's just over.
Is hungry box known for having high fight IQ?
@@ruschev2 Hbox is just a smart guy in general. There's a reason no other Jigglypuff has come close to his level.
@@ruschev2he’s a pretty smart dude in all honesty
@@LoudonClear i would not go that far lol, but his smash iq incredible
@@Insane_Kane well if I’m not mistaken he was an engineering major at a pretty top notch school before dropping out to go full time with smash/RUclips. He was pretty high in ranking as well. I think he sometimes acts more dumb for his views and such
Damn, Mango beat Hungrybox in the first round with STYLE.
I use to love playing Doc jus to throw out the classic Dr.Zoidberg line,” the doctor is in”
WHY WASN'T SCAR THERE!!! The People's champ. First game as doc, last stock jigglypuff death. Yo yo yo. Did he just walk up slowly... and downsmash!!!
Bro bring back that old meta. 3:05
I think it’s funny how we’re in 2023 and they still play cramped next to each other on a big backed mini tv screen
midtier counterpicks is the future of the melee
I thought he was Bam Margera in the thumbnail at first glance 😂
Idk why, but the fact that this video just didnt have the coming up preview is so funny to me
It's a thing of beauty
3:06 the new meta: playing normally
I used to love smash Bros. On n64.
How can I get back in to playing this? What game is relevant and what system
Smash brothers ultimate is the newest game and is on the Nintendo switch. Or you could go into melee which is a bit more complicated due to needing a good PC. Either one is fine but both have pros and cons
@@stilesbruno2964 i have a gaming pc . please explain? what are these guys competing in ?
@@roidAholic look up a guide to setting up Slippi Dolphin for Melee. Or look up how to set up Smash 64 online
That’s why he plays Doc Lee in the morning!!!!!!!
Doc lee is the only doctor id trust with a colonoscopy
Let's-a'-go!
THAT'S WHY HE'S THE GOAT!!!!!!!
i love all the comments of kids trying to tell a 33 year old how to live
All I thought at 5:06 was thou shall not sleep on the kid hahaha
HYPE WHEN THE OLDSCHOOL SCORPIONMASTER COMES!!!
bro all these comments like "hol up mang0's doc can actually win" completely missing the point in game 4 where hbox just decides "welp im done with this time to win now" and doc had no answers to it
7:07 That sync to the music was beautiful
Haven’t followed tourneys in a little bit. Has Mang0 entered another “just messing around for fun” phase?
Its a toss up
I feel like the right scenarios could ignite a #1 mango, but rn it's just a lot of participation points
Absolutely nefarious.
heckler turned the tides imo, brought Mang0 back to reality and out of the zone
is that slime casting?
This commentary just reminding me how much people STILL hate Hungrybox after all these years.
lmao mango's mental in shambles VS Hbox
Reaves out here catching strays from Melee commentators. Lmao
I think Hbox threw game 3 for the fans and I respect it if he did. By throw I dont mean he did anything super intentional but maybe not DI properly after every hit maybe try and experiment a little with follow ups. If he didn't then thats cool as well.
I disagree, I felt that he knew mango was sandbagging and kinda paid chill. And mango decided to actually try hard when hbox thought he was just fucking around. Overall kinda wack of mango disrespecting hbox like this. Imagine if zain pulled out roy on mango, people would call out disrespect instantly.
@@Hank_Khanab_Ame Eh I dont know. I mean I get what you mean but Mango is not Zain. Once mango gets in that mood he will play random characters. I dont see it as disrespectful because its mango and he has done this for years.
@@Hank_Khanab_Ame no they wouldn’t lmao people only ever talk shit about “throwing” when mang0 doesn’t play fox/falco. When zain enters as donttestme everyone loves it. It’s not disrespectful to play who you want you’re just projecting. Hbox would rather play his doc than win by dq
@@Hank_Khanab_Ame I can grantee two things:
1. Hbox did not take Mang0 completely seriously the third game
2. He knew better than to do that twice
Hbox could have easily lost if Mang0 got his mojo back and played cracked out
Mango legit thinks doc wins this matchup though for what it's worth I'm pretty sure
REMINISCENT OF GENESIS HE KNEW WHAT WAS HAPPENING
Fuck it I wanna see more doc mang0 I'm all for it
Mang0 must wear a size 52 hat
Not gonna lie. When I first saw the Melee tier list, I wasn't expecting Dr. Mario to be superior than Mario
Make sense since in wii u and ultimate they basically nerf dr. Mario to what he was intended to be
Forgot Ludwig commentated lmfao
Man the commentary had no chemistry, that one guy tried to make it about himself and the others were not having it.
Fun match to watch tho.
Is this really what Smash comms is like? Maybe just go with game audio next time?
I can see the doc vision
Watching this makes me realize how much more fun Hbox is to watch on Ultimate instead of Melee. He camps a lot less in that game
Back air changed my mind.
The start of a new storyline.
bev catchin strays lmao
Literally a armada link situation
Jesus this doc...
:13 the fucking chad no look
The commentary is more enjoyable when they talk about the gameplay
Up b cancel into fair is like 99 percent guaranteed like WHAT ARE YOU DOING
8%? What they got, fent in em?
Gotta love commentators that don’t actually comment on the game itself and talk like it’s some shitty podcast. I like color commentary but actually incorporate it along with what’s happening in the game.
I fast forward 10 seconds and hbox went from 10% to star ko
Did mango just walk up and down smash?
stop talking trash about the most active melee character discord
Why did he go Dr Mario? Was it just to have a good time?
scorp master hit the books got that PHD
thats why mang0 my goat, i am a big fan of the doc
Pisses me off that such a good player and cool dude plays that cheese fest of a character
This dude looks like my friend Brennick
Hungry looking like he eating good. Time for a name change. Pudgybox is my vote
hows your music career going?
@@jake9107 I traded it in for a white collar position years ago lol. It ain't famous rapper money, but $200k is better than starving for sure 😂. What made you ask that?
@@ThirstenHunger1 sure buddy
it wasn't the scorp, but it was in the spirit of the scorp
Am I just new to Melee or does it seem extremely odd and diminishing that the players are DEEP into the second stock before any of the 4 commentators say the first word about the actual set? Talking instead about gold and wedding rings and stuff? But then again, when you're volunteering for something like this and not getting paid, I guess your #1 priority is literally to hear yourself talk.
I agree, but there also isn't much to commentate. Watching someone play puff or fox is like watching paint dry. This is actually the first time I've seen dr mario being played.
@@Baka_Mopchill out fox is exciting its just the players that make fox boring.
It's shit like this that makes it hard to call Armada the GOAT sometimes...
Tear to place the "best character"
If only up b cancel was useful aganst puff but fair and other tools help to counter no up b cancel
The commentary is unbearable. All just actively rooting for Mang0
Yeah we need more 8 min puff ledge camp. The mental gymnastics
All these people who have been "Watching for years" and they cant tell if mang0 was throwing, hbox only gave a game because he was bagging, or if mang0 genuinely thought it was his best odds. Lmao
I mean Mango said his Fox would get bodied by HBox. A good puff destroys a Fox playing sloppy.
Mango lost because he taunted hbox in game 3
"Doc is so trash"
Literally in the lead
MANGO GETTIN OLD LMAOOO!!! gg
Announcers need to go start a podcast that nobody will listen to and stop ruining matches 😅
Why did he go doc? He seemed in a good mood day one
Hbox came to the casters after getting sent to losers (I think), and he talked about just going full degen camp mode. The theory by the commentators was that Mango heard of this and just couldn't be bothered spending all his mental energy playing a campy Hbox, especially after being sent to losers by Cody.
That's pretty fucking lame if that's true
Nah he was playing kinda bad all weekend and even before he already prejohned “I thought I could force myself to care but I currently do not have that dog in me” loll. He lost to cody in winners and just lost it from there. His fox wasn’t gonna beat hbox for sure so just went with doc
It's a defense mechanism that he uses to make himself feel better because it's less taxing on his ego to say "I lost because I didn't care" than "I lost because the other player outplayed me".
@@coffeewithginseng3812I mean if he’s been playing like shit may as well try something else. I doubt theres anyone worse to play than hbox after a shitty run.
Why he keep making faces at mango like he would fight him IRL lol
These commentators arw ridiculous like lets focus on the match and commentate on the match. Maybe watch tasty steve to get an idea of what a good commentator sounds like
Hungrybox starting to look like meatcanyon
always loved doc mario. the melee character, the game Dr. Mario i'm terrible at so I don't love it
2014 mang0 is back
This commentary is killing my brain cells