I LOVE your channel AND I know from previous reviews I CAN trust YOUR reviews and tips. I CAN’T say that about a number of other “experts” giving tips and reviews. Another great job.
I have had this printer for two weeks and I don't have the extrusion problems you mentioned. The three prints I made were good out of the box. I'm confident I can get a better quality by tweaking the slicer settings. I just installed TL smoothers and a left over Capricorn tube I had lying around. Next will be stepper silencers, external MOSFET power relays and better printed extruder and print cooling solutions. I personally barely looked at the assembly manual, because I watched a few review videos of beforehand and I followed along the official Alfawise youtube chanel assembly video that was really clear to me. Conclusion for me is this printer was worth the price I payed and it will get better as I use and improve it. Thanks for your honest review, but I think you were unlucky and got a lemon.
Thanks for the honest review. It's nice to see a reviewer give a fair review of 3d printers that are sent to them for free, and really see it's unbiased. I hope you review the Tevo Nereus when/if you get access to one.
Theres a reason you got that one free pal.. it was destined for the bin. I was immediatley struck by how well the device had been packed and things such as the Z axis end stop had already been fitted to mine and If you are going to build a 3d printer, I think its fair to say that youd have to be something on the slow side to not understand the absolute quality 3d drawings on glossy catalogue type paper supplied. I put mine together in 30 mins as an absolute novice having never seen a 3d printer other than in pictures. I, was blown away at how well the device parts where machined with absolutely no swarf after machining the aluminium parts, and whilst I had already downloaded Beta Cura slicer software, it was already set up for Alfawise U30. Im sure that theyve given you a factory dropped model. The Very first thing I printed was a fox and my only bad thing was that there wasnt enough fillament to finish the print and so i continue the print with abs instead of pla... i now know the difference. The second thing i printed was a 2 day print of a strandbeest and learned the value of not putting supports every where. Since then having owne it for just 2 weeks I have had no problems whatsoever and since I wasnt keen to build one from scratch, this semi built printer was from my point of view as a newbie, the best money I have spent on gearbest in a flash sale for 125 GB pounds. I would highly reccommend this to other newbies looking for a starting point and have only one tip.. Read other peoples tips, such as using a layer of hairspray for a flawless 1st layer print when printing the likes of kit cards. Im sure they have put the scraps in a box simply because its a freebie for your channel. If you have any advice on metal printing id be happy to hear em.
I actually own 2 variants of this EXACT printer, the Longer LK4, and 1 variant of the Alfawise U20 (copy of CR-10), which is the Longer LK2. I purchased the first one in December of '19 and since then bought the other 2. I've watched ALOT of your vids on the Ender 3, CR-10, mainboards etc. I will admit that only 1 is still "stock", apart from a dual geared extruder. That one has been printing non-stop for 2 weeks now making Face shields for the CoronaVirus Pandemic. The other 2 I have been upgrading piece by piece including; Mainboard, Screen, Extruder, Direct-Drive, and E3D V6 upgrades. I've had approximatley 70%-90% success rates out of each one. I have just now seen THIS video about your review on the printer though, over a year later so I'm assuming that the company had some improvements or I've just been "lucky". The reason for the upgrades are simply because I have a BAD tendency to tinker and try new things. I'm not knocking your video or review, I'm simply giving you MY personal experience with this product. Thank you for the videos and guidance on "All Things" printing.
I did also a review of the printer and I don't have the same conclusion as you. I'm still printing quite a lot with mine which I didn't modify except installing TL Smoothers and obviously, printing basic modifications like larger wheels for bed leveling, clips for the cables and adding an extension for the Micro SD card (I mention all of that in my review). But the most important is mine is printing perfectly fine with the default slicer settings (I'm using as well Simplify). While I understand you may had a bad machine like I probably had for the Tevo Tornado, probably not all the U30 are like yours and it's great that you mention that as well in your video. It's great to show also when things go wrong and your problems have been quite serious. Keep the good work! :)
I have an Alphawise U30 with Smoother board which has been working great for me so far. I would agree that TPU is not perfect but all the other PLA have been excellent. I look forward to the improvement you are planning for do to this printer. Good honest review and I am also glad that Gearbest customer service help you out.
You did a good job of reviewing the product, and because of the price this is a very attractive machine for the beginner hobbyist. I would like to have seen the refinements that you would do to make it a better printer, do those and see the results. This would not only help those that have them and those that are looking to buy one. It would also be good for the manufacturer to see modifications that they could do to make a better out of the box product. At the least it needs a forum for users to share ideas and fixes. Thanks for the post.
great review, im glad that my first printer was an ender 3, and i managed to pick up a second one with 7 rolls of filament for less than the filament costs. i think if i was to move to a larger printer i would probably stick with a creality one, because i know what im getting. your reviews certainly let me see what else is out there.
Gearbest has been stealing RUclips content from a creator I watch (at least one) and posting it on their site without credit. Blatant DCMA violation. I won't be using anyone's Gearbest links again.
GreatScott just made a video on the GearBest situation if anyone is interested, they were using his videos as advertising without compensation or permission.
Good Review !!!!! Still waiting on the MKS Gen l TMC2130 Tutorial i have all my parts just sitting here as i don't want to mess them up as your tutorials are Fantastic!!!!
Thanks for the heads up. Quality Assurance seems to be zero. The wiring looks like a prototype. The bent/dented guard could not even pass a visual check. Imagine sending that out for review. Any normal company would make damn sure you got the one with the best turnout. I wonder what they were thinking. I thought you were very fair in your review, you qualified with examples. ;)
Hey I’ve got one of these printers! I’ve got that filament problem as well! I don’t know how to fix it!! Thanks for the review! If you can put up a version of you fixing everything that would be grand!!!
TY for your honesty in sharing the info in this review, I am awaiting arrival of my Ender 3 my first foray into 3d printing I am collecting some parts for that as well to assemble it as we speak ie: correct Amass connectors, a metal extruder, stiffer bed springs, Capricorn Tubing etc etc. should be fun!
Im told that my Longer LK2 is this exact printer. i have not had any issues with it as of yet and works great using my ender 3 profile. Im glad to see this prospective of this machine so thank you for your honest review. I will keep an eye out for these issues though i havent had much in the way of problems with it/them (i have two). i did find the test prints to be spotty. The little bird (owls) turned out great but the Benchy and bullet i found to be poor. There is also some model on there that i think is a budda but looks more like a dead baby (yikes) but also turned out great. i havent tried the fox yet but i did save it on the SD card to check its quality. Again thank you for sharing your experience and keep up the great work.
Superb review Michael. So it seems that the "race to the bottom" is still on going, cheap is not the be all and end all. Just cos it's cheap, is not excuse for dangerous, especially when they are aiming toward beginners.
the machine is not too bad. the issue is typically one of quality control. check mechanical alignment for the banding check the feeder for the extrusion. watch out for stripping bolts. also the hot end is suspect. take it apart and reassemble making sure the PTFE properly mates to the nozzle interface (no you should not have to do that but hey its chinese printers FTW ! :-) hehe the machine is made by Longer 3D as the LK2 and they DO appear to be pretty responsive to feedback (we shall see) so hopefully they will correct the quality control issues and make it better. I send them a pretty decent laundry list of things to correct and update. otherwise agreed 100% machine needs improvements. good try poorly executed.
I still waiting for my unit, it should come this days. And it's good to know, that I've to be very carefully with this device. At the time I've order it I calculated, that I will not going happy with it. In this case I'll use the material partly for fixing other printers or for getting more experiece in electronics, not in 3D printing. I'll looking forward for what I get .....
I just bought a Longer LK4 which is basically the same printer with a different name. When this video was posted it was probably when it was the LK2. So mine is the next generation of what was reviewed. It took me a while to figure out the settings of the slicing software but after I did I have had no problems. The only thing I don't like is getting the part off the print board. This is my first 3D printer so I have nothing to compare it with. It prints seem to be even and haven't had the stringing problem I have seen with some modeling some reviews on RUclips.
Great review. I purchased this printer myself and do agree that the instructions are really bad. But in my experiences this has been a very good printer and since its very similar to the ender 3 there are tons of mods that can be done. Since purchasing it I have added a cable chain and changed the hot end assembly. I can say that it can produce Prusa mk3 level of prints.
Nice honest advice, versus Angus' review of the sad Xvico. This really bugs me: these printer manuals suggest tramming the bed with a 0.2mm feeler gauge or paper. Creality even provides a 0.2mm feeler. Paper is 0.10 mm. Huge difference in adhesion. I'm tramming at 0.08.
I love that these 3D printer companies are trying new things, But am i the only one who doesn't want to pay more for a touch screen? Seriously. everone i know uses octoprint and never uses an SD card or even the interface. I think the only time i actually use the printer's own interface is when i want to quickly disable stepper motors or hit preheat PLA to swap my filament over. Would much rather they save the money they spend on a touchscreen and add auto bed levelling or run out sensors, better firmware and better Q & A. Otherwise nice review mate, I have my Ender 3 now and am over the moon at how well it is printing and everything it came with So no more cheap printers for me until I save up for a prusa. Keep it up.
@Don Gray I don't think they are all terrible. I have been getting amazing prints from my ender 3, so i am not sure why you have had no luck. It worked great out of the box with no upgrades and just bed leveling. Considering the ender 3 cost me $280 delivered with free postage from an Australian supplier i am over the moon with the quality of the prints. bomb boo - i.imgur.com/AuPDIGu.jpg ender 3 dog - (first print before retraction settings) i.imgur.com/q07jert.jpg if you are expecting better prints than these from spending just a few hundred, I would be amazed. Octoprint is very easy to setup, It comes ready to go with an image you can flash straight onto an sd card, All you do is plug in a webcam, and plug in your printer and boom away you go. Not sure what you mean by "most people are not tinkerers" I would argue that most people who buy 3d printers are the type to be tinkerers but i have nothing to back that up. All i can do is use the information i have which is nearly all my friends who have 3d printers all use octoprint and are "tinkerers". Expecting to spend very little and get amazing results is just not where 3d printing is right now, But considering the prints i am getting from my Ender 3 i am definitely happy until i can justify the upgrade to a prusa mk 3. Considering i can design something at a certain size and it prints and fits together, What more can i ask for? but hey each to their own. Hope you find a printer that works for you.
Does the 32 bit board have the chips to add another extruder and or hot end to run 2 to 1 extruder/hotend or dual hotend? What driver chipset do they use? It sounded rather loud, so most likely not TMC drivers of any kind? Are they soldered on?
As a community we're going to push back against this tide of Chinese companies using closed source 32 bit STM32 based controllers, they're terrible quality and no one can verify the safety checks or even fix them.
Well than creality and all the others should go too right? No. Chinese companies making 3d printing more accessible is a good thing. If you do not know how to fix problems or tinker, buy a prusa or a lulzbot, kits are not for you. Even creality has their fare share of problems.
I don't recmend any one to buy it I did bought it it's a scrap Even the power supply isn't work I replaced it with pc power supply and it's worked than I tried to preheated for PLA it reaches to 150c and this error pops out ( abnormal head temperature is detected) 9:48 How can I fix it?
Sounds like there might be separation between the hot end heater and thermistor. The nozzle is probably way hotter than 150 but it isn't measuring it as high as it expects and therefore pops the error.
I used to have under extrusion issues on my ender 3 as well, although I got a stronger spring for my extruder assembly and that fixed the problem, giving the extruder more grip. maybe, just maybe this is part of the cause of for the under extrusion?
Gearbest itself is another negative. As a reviewer you may have gotten good support but thats not the norm. It's possible to get support but usually it's a chore at best.
Mine came with a broken power supply and a very badly warped build plate. Instead of waiting on gearbest i just grabbed a meanwell ps which fixed that and leveled the bed as best i can for now with strips of tape. They are sending a new plate but the print quality is bad due to extrusion like yours. Stepper dampeners have been recommended by others but in looking back i should have just a ender 3. Waiting to see what you come up with to fix this thing.
I like the octopi relay idea.. There is an octopi iftt plug in that might be useful. When the relay is triggered you can get a notification on your phone.
@@ifell3 Thank you very much. I have already added "Upper filament guide" from thingiverse. Need to find a cooling fan funnel and definitely going to add wifi ESP8266 using luc-github/ESP3D firmware.
Hey Michael, you are very clued up maybe you could help me please. I have some Ender 3's, 1 Chiron and unfortunately a Geeetech A20M. The a20m is terrible, so many problems. At the moment I am replacing all the rollers with ender style rollers. The stock rollers are single bearing and they have so much play in them. My problem is finding the bushes/spaces that Creality uses. Do you know anywhere where I could purchase a set. I have found the rollers, but not the bushes/spacers. Any help would be really appreciated. After replacement mboard, hotend, part cooling fan, I still have little way to go but it is slowly improving. I have stepper drivers on the way as I am suspicious on them too. I had to add a stepper dampener to the bed stepper as its extrusion is mounted onto sheet metal, which flexes. Not happy with Geeetech releasing this unit without proper QC. Only now will it actually print something instead of just clogging itself. Not to mention the E Steps being way out in the firmware as well. Tsk Tsk.
@@swiftrick15 Just remembered that when I added dual Z to my Cr-10 I just printed the spacers in Petg. The spacer is in with this if you need it www.thingiverse.com/thing:2533527
@@ebutuoy4811 yeah nah, plastic will not suit. The bearings should be loaded tight to prevent any play. I will take your advice and get some through Amazon if all else fails.
@@swiftrick15Hey swifty……...did you know that the Z axis leadscrews are not all consistent in their leads......the screws are rolled to get the pitch and lead and if you measure the lead over a distance you WILL get variations from one screw to another.....this will throw your X axis crossbeam out of square wit twin screws as the beam rises. That is one reason why people who dabble with CNC mills etc go for ground ball screws instead of the cheaper rolled ones. We don't have that option, but it's something to know when you are working with twin leadscrews for the Z axis. Leveling the bed to the X axis is done with a .04mm thick sheet of paper....provided the Z axis brings the beam up and down level each time.
Looks like you had an under extrusion issue and you didn't address it. Real disappointing review. Like you pointed it out but your fixes are way off. Maybe taking more than 30 min to build it would have helped.
Strongly disagree. I followed their instructions and they advertise it as beginner friendly. Therefore that's all I should have to do. I even contacted the company and gave them a chance to address the problem. Now sure what else you expect me to do before it becomes a how to fix video instead of a review. In terms of under extrusion, the constant fusing of lock pick puzzle would require even less flow rate is required to correct this issue. The problems were inherent to the poor quality of my review unit.
@@TeachingTech I believe most of your issues could be eliminated by making sure the z motor is properly aligned. The spring looking couples can cause all kinds of issues if off angle. I didn't see this addressed in your video and I felt the mechanical options for correcting the flaw were neglected. Thank you for doing what you do and thank you for the reply.
Yeah I agree, it’s a thing that simply happens at these prices and almost always requires a tiny tweak. I get that that isn’t what newbies are supposed to do but it kind of makes all the other comparisons a bit useless.
@@McGrathElectricServices These problems are most likely caused by inconsistent gantry movements. The first thing I would do in your situation is loosen off the Z motor mount as well as the upper 3 frame pieces from the body and make sure it's all square. This may require you to readjust the tension on the rollers of your gantry.
@@dbantner Sadly. I managed to improve a bit by setting the flow to 109% which is what I calculated but now I occasionally get the entire Z axis to hop over parts that have just blobs of non adhered plastic on and the extruder constantly skips due to the curved bed on the printer. And mind you this is my 3rd original Creality glass that is bent. Fucking garbage. People had better luch with an Ender that is 50% of the price. My next printer is a Prusa.
A lot of your comparisons are showing the U30 prints against an Ender 5 print. But your video is telling me that this is an Ender 3 clone done wrong. Why not show the print qualities between the Ender 3 and the U30?
His review of the Ender 3 was from 6 months ago while the Ender 5 review was just last month. He probably doesn't have comparable prints (different filament, or just different 3d models), and doing a print now would be unfair after all of the upgrades he's added to the Ender 3. Ender 5 uses the same mainboard, extruder, hotend, and build surface as the 3. Only real differences are the frame, z-axis, and the lcd screen, but prints should be nearly identical.
I really wish you could get your hands on the Geeetech A10. It is also a Ender 3 colon. But with better improvements, (in writing that is)? It has the OPEN SOURCE GT2560 control board, runs on 24 volt/360W PS and has a boot loader for updates built in. Plus it's $185.99 plus 5.99 shipping USD. Very affordable! All the stuff people have to pay extra for to upgrade the Ender 3. Thanks for the video, very informative. Your thoughts on this?
I saw that video. You concentrated on the dual filament extruder and how it printed. Good video! But the A10 is true a better version of the Ender 3, to me! . I wish someone would (you) compare this one? I believe this printer is an underdog that is getting over looked and soon will be gone?
As I said, Teachingtech makes great videos that are very helpful! But in the case of the Geeetech A10M video, he concentrated on the dual filament printing, not in depth of the A10 part of the printer! I wish he could get his hands on the A10 to compare to the Ender. Other video makers have raved about the A10 kicking Ender 3's ass! I respect Teachingtechs opinion and would like to see this review?
Yikes, what a piece of crap...it's sad to watch these Chinese companies race to see who can make the cheapest printer (with the greatest profit) using the cheapest components available. I've had a similar disaster with a GeeeTech A10, which they claim is "beginner friendly" as well. I really wish 3D printing enthusiasts would make a clear choice between quality versus absolute cheapest. People see the low low price and throw their dollars at junk like this
sory for my bad english but i have this printer just 1 week from gearbest shop i dont have any problem maybe your printer have problem i make the order and after 1 day i see your video that scare me but is all good !!! for me i update the firmware in the first day i make all test i make my 3d gunstock for vr and is all ok and very smooth without any issue sad for your why you dont sent it back ??? me i am noobie on 3d is my first time with 3d printer and all my print succes very easy menu and very good so far
didnt gearbest just get called out for stealing content from youtubers to use in its promotional videos? I wouldn't support gearbest anymore particularly since they used the insulation of being Chinese to keep them from any legal action
Hi, I’m from Italy, so forgive me if my english it’s not that good. I’m an absolute beginner in the 3d printers world, but after watching several review of this printer I dcided to pull the trigger and buy it. I’m really surprise of your very bad review, because for me for that pricethis printer is great, very similar to the ender 3, wich a friend of mine Owens, in terms of quality. The only 3 scenario that I can see for this bad review are: 1) You are Paid by somebody close to Creality to make bad review of the competitor 2) Your printer was faulty 3) You are not that good in 3d Print, because if an assolute beginner like me was able to achieve very good result with just few adjustment that every printer require, I can’t understand how an esperti in 3d printer like you got such a bad result, especially that horrible 3d benchy. Have a nice day Bye
"Hey your House is going to burn down! I mean im Not gonna do anything about it, Just thought I'd Tell ya" Its Not even that cheap, this printer is so garbage
I LOVE your channel AND I know from previous reviews I CAN trust YOUR reviews and tips.
I CAN’T say that about a number of other “experts” giving tips and reviews.
Another great job.
I have had this printer for two weeks and I don't have the extrusion problems you mentioned. The three prints I made were good out of the box. I'm confident I can get a better quality by tweaking the slicer settings. I just installed TL smoothers and a left over Capricorn tube I had lying around. Next will be stepper silencers, external MOSFET power relays and better printed extruder and print cooling solutions. I personally barely looked at the assembly manual, because I watched a few review videos of beforehand and I followed along the official Alfawise youtube chanel assembly video that was really clear to me. Conclusion for me is this printer was worth the price I payed and it will get better as I use and improve it. Thanks for your honest review, but I think you were unlucky and got a lemon.
Thanks for the honest review. It's nice to see a reviewer give a fair review of 3d printers that are sent to them for free, and really see it's unbiased. I hope you review the Tevo Nereus when/if you get access to one.
Theres a reason you got that one free pal.. it was destined for the bin. I was immediatley struck by how well the device had been packed and things such as the Z axis end stop had already been fitted to mine and If you are going to build a 3d printer, I think its fair to say that youd have to be something on the slow side to not understand the absolute quality 3d drawings on glossy catalogue type paper supplied. I put mine together in 30 mins as an absolute novice having never seen a 3d printer other than in pictures. I, was blown away at how well the device parts where machined with absolutely no swarf after machining the aluminium parts, and whilst I had already downloaded Beta Cura slicer software, it was already set up for Alfawise U30.
Im sure that theyve given you a factory dropped model. The Very first thing I printed was a fox and my only bad thing was that there wasnt enough fillament to finish the print and so i continue the print with abs instead of pla... i now know the difference.
The second thing i printed was a 2 day print of a strandbeest and learned the value of not putting supports every where.
Since then having owne it for just 2 weeks I have had no problems whatsoever and since I wasnt keen to build one from scratch, this semi built printer was from my point of view as a newbie, the best money I have spent on gearbest in a flash sale for 125 GB pounds. I would highly reccommend this to other newbies looking for a starting point and have only one tip.. Read other peoples tips, such as using a layer of hairspray for a flawless 1st layer print when printing the likes of kit cards. Im sure they have put the scraps in a box simply because its a freebie for your channel. If you have any advice on metal printing id be happy to hear em.
I actually own 2 variants of this EXACT printer, the Longer LK4, and 1 variant of the Alfawise U20 (copy of CR-10), which is the Longer LK2. I purchased the first one in December of '19 and since then bought the other 2. I've watched ALOT of your vids on the Ender 3, CR-10, mainboards etc.
I will admit that only 1 is still "stock", apart from a dual geared extruder. That one has been printing non-stop for 2 weeks now making Face shields for the CoronaVirus Pandemic. The other 2 I have been upgrading piece by piece including; Mainboard, Screen, Extruder, Direct-Drive, and E3D V6 upgrades.
I've had approximatley 70%-90% success rates out of each one. I have just now seen THIS video about your review on the printer though, over a year later so I'm assuming that the company had some improvements or I've just been "lucky".
The reason for the upgrades are simply because I have a BAD tendency to tinker and try new things. I'm not knocking your video or review, I'm simply giving you MY personal experience with this product.
Thank you for the videos and guidance on "All Things" printing.
I did also a review of the printer and I don't have the same conclusion as you. I'm still printing quite a lot with mine which I didn't modify except installing TL Smoothers and obviously, printing basic modifications like larger wheels for bed leveling, clips for the cables and adding an extension for the Micro SD card (I mention all of that in my review). But the most important is mine is printing perfectly fine with the default slicer settings (I'm using as well Simplify).
While I understand you may had a bad machine like I probably had for the Tevo Tornado, probably not all the U30 are like yours and it's great that you mention that as well in your video. It's great to show also when things go wrong and your problems have been quite serious.
Keep the good work! :)
I have an Alphawise U30 with Smoother board which has been working great for me so far. I would agree that TPU is not perfect but all the other PLA have been excellent. I look forward to the improvement you are planning for do to this printer. Good honest review and I am also glad that Gearbest customer service help you out.
You did a good job of reviewing the product, and because of the price this is a very attractive machine for the beginner hobbyist. I would like to have seen the refinements that you would do to make it a better printer, do those and see the results. This would not only help those that have them and those that are looking to buy one. It would also be good for the manufacturer to see modifications that they could do to make a better out of the box product.
At the least it needs a forum for users to share ideas and fixes.
Thanks for the post.
great review, im glad that my first printer was an ender 3, and i managed to pick up a second one with 7 rolls of filament for less than the filament costs. i think if i was to move to a larger printer i would probably stick with a creality one, because i know what im getting.
your reviews certainly let me see what else is out there.
For the layer height issues (z axis) you should try to push down the threaded rod in the coupler to make it touch the motor shaft. It worked for me
Gearbest has been stealing RUclips content from a creator I watch (at least one) and posting it on their site without credit. Blatant DCMA violation. I won't be using anyone's Gearbest links again.
Yeh, GearBest, best at what ?
@@iandawkins2182 best at making you waste money.
Well, i bought my ender 3 on gearbest and im very santisfied
GreatScott just made a video on the GearBest situation if anyone is interested, they were using his videos as advertising without compensation or permission.
Also, Gearbest is very high for shipping costs! I use Banggoods!
Good Review !!!!! Still waiting on the MKS Gen l TMC2130 Tutorial i have all my parts just sitting here as i don't want to mess them up as your tutorials are Fantastic!!!!
Why wait?
ruclips.net/video/OUadiW5QLBE/видео.html
Why go MKS rather than SKR?
Thanks for the heads up. Quality Assurance seems to be zero. The wiring looks like a prototype. The bent/dented guard could not even pass a visual check. Imagine sending that out for review. Any normal company would make damn sure you got the one with the best turnout. I wonder what they were thinking. I thought you were very fair in your review, you qualified with examples. ;)
Hey I’ve got one of these printers!
I’ve got that filament problem as well! I don’t know how to fix it!! Thanks for the review! If you can put up a version of you fixing everything that would be grand!!!
TY for your honesty in sharing the info in this review, I am awaiting arrival of my Ender 3 my first foray into 3d printing I am collecting some parts for that as well to assemble it as we speak ie: correct Amass connectors, a metal extruder, stiffer bed springs, Capricorn Tubing etc etc. should be fun!
Im told that my Longer LK2 is this exact printer. i have not had any issues with it as of yet and works great using my ender 3 profile. Im glad to see this prospective of this machine so thank you for your honest review. I will keep an eye out for these issues though i havent had much in the way of problems with it/them (i have two). i did find the test prints to be spotty. The little bird (owls) turned out great but the Benchy and bullet i found to be poor. There is also some model on there that i think is a budda but looks more like a dead baby (yikes) but also turned out great. i havent tried the fox yet but i did save it on the SD card to check its quality. Again thank you for sharing your experience and keep up the great work.
Fantastic honest video, Nice, respect to you and your channel.
Superb review Michael. So it seems that the "race to the bottom" is still on going, cheap is not the be all and end all. Just cos it's cheap, is not excuse for dangerous, especially when they are aiming toward beginners.
the machine is not too bad. the issue is typically one of quality control. check mechanical alignment for the banding check the feeder for the extrusion. watch out for stripping bolts. also the hot end is suspect. take it apart and reassemble making sure the PTFE properly mates to the nozzle interface (no you should not have to do that but hey its chinese printers FTW ! :-) hehe
the machine is made by Longer 3D as the LK2 and they DO appear to be pretty responsive to feedback (we shall see) so hopefully they will correct the quality control issues and make it better. I send them a pretty decent laundry list of things to correct and update.
otherwise agreed 100% machine needs improvements. good try poorly executed.
I still waiting for my unit, it should come this days. And it's good to know, that I've to be very carefully with this device. At the time I've order it I calculated, that I will not going happy with it. In this case I'll use the material partly for fixing other printers or for getting more experiece in electronics, not in 3D printing. I'll looking forward for what I get .....
They fixed all the things you mentioned in the later releases with the prints
I really hope so or there will be a lot of disappointed customers.
I just bought a Longer LK4 which is basically the same printer with a different name. When this video was posted it was probably when it was the LK2. So mine is the next generation of what was reviewed. It took me a while to figure out the settings of the slicing software but after I did I have had no problems. The only thing I don't like is getting the part off the print board. This is my first 3D printer so I have nothing to compare it with. It prints seem to be even and haven't had the stringing problem I have seen with some modeling some reviews on RUclips.
Great review. I purchased this printer myself and do agree that the instructions are really bad. But in my experiences this has been a very good printer and since its very similar to the ender 3 there are tons of mods that can be done. Since purchasing it I have added a cable chain and changed the hot end assembly. I can say that it can produce Prusa mk3 level of prints.
Did you ever do another video on what you did to fix this printer?
Nice honest advice, versus Angus' review of the sad Xvico.
This really bugs me: these printer manuals suggest tramming the bed with a 0.2mm feeler gauge or paper. Creality even provides a 0.2mm feeler.
Paper is 0.10 mm. Huge difference in adhesion. I'm tramming at 0.08.
Do you think, the Alfawise U30 is less dangerous, if I use a Original Creality Ender 3 Pro Board?
Very interesting and thorough review. Thank you!
omg i really learned. thank u so far best tech teacher by far.
A great and honest review. Thank you.
A fair and square revieuw, keep them comming
Good review. I bought the printer hoping to do a review over it. But there are so many issues that I have put it on hold. Great potential put poor qc.
I love that these 3D printer companies are trying new things, But am i the only one who doesn't want to pay more for a touch screen? Seriously. everone i know uses octoprint and never uses an SD card or even the interface. I think the only time i actually use the printer's own interface is when i want to quickly disable stepper motors or hit preheat PLA to swap my filament over.
Would much rather they save the money they spend on a touchscreen and add auto bed levelling or run out sensors, better firmware and better Q & A.
Otherwise nice review mate, I have my Ender 3 now and am over the moon at how well it is printing and everything it came with So no more cheap printers for me until I save up for a prusa.
Keep it up.
@Don Gray I don't think they are all terrible. I have been getting amazing prints from my ender 3, so i am not sure why you have had no luck. It worked great out of the box with no upgrades and just bed leveling. Considering the ender 3 cost me $280 delivered with free postage from an Australian supplier i am over the moon with the quality of the prints.
bomb boo - i.imgur.com/AuPDIGu.jpg
ender 3 dog - (first print before retraction settings) i.imgur.com/q07jert.jpg
if you are expecting better prints than these from spending just a few hundred, I would be amazed.
Octoprint is very easy to setup, It comes ready to go with an image you can flash straight onto an sd card, All you do is plug in a webcam, and plug in your printer and boom away you go. Not sure what you mean by "most people are not tinkerers" I would argue that most people who buy 3d printers are the type to be tinkerers but i have nothing to back that up. All i can do is use the information i have which is nearly all my friends who have 3d printers all use octoprint and are "tinkerers". Expecting to spend very little and get amazing results is just not where 3d printing is right now, But considering the prints i am getting from my Ender 3 i am definitely happy until i can justify the upgrade to a prusa mk 3.
Considering i can design something at a certain size and it prints and fits together, What more can i ask for?
but hey each to their own. Hope you find a printer that works for you.
OMG, I did a spit take when you said it'll tell you when it burns your house down lol Thanks for the honest review :)
thank u for truth and helping us females out starting 3d printing and i had to subscribe. great tutorial voice.
Is that a SAM3X8E (DUE) based board? What sort of firmware do they run on it?
Does the 32 bit board have the chips to add another extruder and or hot end to run 2 to 1 extruder/hotend or dual hotend? What driver chipset do they use? It sounded rather loud, so most likely not TMC drivers of any kind? Are they soldered on?
As a community we're going to push back against this tide of Chinese companies using closed source 32 bit STM32 based controllers, they're terrible quality and no one can verify the safety checks or even fix them.
Well than creality and all the others should go too right? No. Chinese companies making 3d printing more accessible is a good thing. If you do not know how to fix problems or tinker, buy a prusa or a lulzbot, kits are not for you. Even creality has their fare share of problems.
I don't recmend any one to buy it
I did bought it it's a scrap
Even the power supply isn't work I replaced it with pc power supply and it's worked than I tried to preheated for PLA it reaches to 150c and this error pops out ( abnormal head temperature is detected) 9:48
How can I fix it?
Sounds like there might be separation between the hot end heater and thermistor. The nozzle is probably way hotter than 150 but it isn't measuring it as high as it expects and therefore pops the error.
Are you going to do the pro version soon I would like to know if I should get the ender 3 pro
I used to have under extrusion issues on my ender 3 as well, although I got a stronger spring for my extruder assembly and that fixed the problem, giving the extruder more grip. maybe, just maybe this is part of the cause of for the under extrusion?
Nice honest review 👍
Thanks for sharing👍😀
So what to buy in this money?
What about the alfawise u30 Pro?
Gearbest itself is another negative. As a reviewer you may have gotten good support but thats not the norm. It's possible to get support but usually it's a chore at best.
Mine came with a broken power supply and a very badly warped build plate. Instead of waiting on gearbest i just grabbed a meanwell ps which fixed that and leveled the bed as best i can for now with strips of tape. They are sending a new plate but the print quality is bad due to extrusion like yours. Stepper dampeners have been recommended by others but in looking back i should have just a ender 3. Waiting to see what you come up with to fix this thing.
A poor man always pays twice.....not suggesting etc, just quoting.
Thank you for great review.
Safety suggestion consider something like a sonoff th16 to kill power to 3d printer if there is a fire. I saw this idea from Caroline Dunn on RUclips.
I'm working on an Octoprint/MQ2/relay safety system at the moment. Big need for this in 3D printing.
I like the octopi relay idea.. There is an octopi iftt plug in that might be useful. When the relay is triggered you can get a notification on your phone.
can you do a video upgrading the u30, Making it better, i got mine before you upload this video :(
I ordered mine before this too, I'm hoping he's got a bad batch as a few others have said it's been a good in a review.
+1
@@stevekiss8367 Steve check out my quick review, I'm no where near a expert level or anything
@@ifell3 Thank you very much. I have already added "Upper filament guide" from thingiverse. Need to find a cooling fan funnel and definitely going to add wifi ESP8266 using luc-github/ESP3D firmware.
Hey Michael, you are very clued up maybe you could help me please. I have some Ender 3's, 1 Chiron and unfortunately a Geeetech A20M. The a20m is terrible, so many problems. At the moment I am replacing all the rollers with ender style rollers. The stock rollers are single bearing and they have so much play in them. My problem is finding the bushes/spaces that Creality uses. Do you know anywhere where I could purchase a set. I have found the rollers, but not the bushes/spacers.
Any help would be really appreciated. After replacement mboard, hotend, part cooling fan, I still have little way to go but it is slowly improving. I have stepper drivers on the way as I am suspicious on them too. I had to add a stepper dampener to the bed stepper as its extrusion is mounted onto sheet metal, which flexes. Not happy with Geeetech releasing this unit without proper QC.
Only now will it actually print something instead of just clogging itself. Not to mention the E Steps being way out in the firmware as well. Tsk Tsk.
@@ebutuoy4811 Thank you very much. I will.
@@swiftrick15 Just remembered that when I added dual Z to my Cr-10 I just printed the spacers in Petg. The spacer is in with this if you need it www.thingiverse.com/thing:2533527
@@ebutuoy4811 yeah nah, plastic will not suit. The bearings should be loaded tight to prevent any play. I will take your advice and get some through Amazon if all else fails.
@@swiftrick15Hey swifty……...did you know that the Z axis leadscrews are not all consistent in their leads......the screws are rolled to get the pitch and lead and if you measure the lead over a distance you WILL get variations from one screw to another.....this will throw your X axis crossbeam out of square wit twin screws as the beam rises. That is one reason why people who dabble with CNC mills etc go for ground ball screws instead of the cheaper rolled ones. We don't have that option, but it's something to know when you are working with twin leadscrews for the Z axis. Leveling the bed to the X axis is done with a .04mm thick sheet of paper....provided the Z axis brings the beam up and down level each time.
Hello, can you please share your Prusa i3 mk3 S3D profile? I'm having hard times tuning it.
Looks like you had an under extrusion issue and you didn't address it. Real disappointing review. Like you pointed it out but your fixes are way off.
Maybe taking more than 30 min to build it would have helped.
Strongly disagree. I followed their instructions and they advertise it as beginner friendly. Therefore that's all I should have to do. I even contacted the company and gave them a chance to address the problem. Now sure what else you expect me to do before it becomes a how to fix video instead of a review.
In terms of under extrusion, the constant fusing of lock pick puzzle would require even less flow rate is required to correct this issue. The problems were inherent to the poor quality of my review unit.
@@TeachingTech I believe most of your issues could be eliminated by making sure the z motor is properly aligned. The spring looking couples can cause all kinds of issues if off angle. I didn't see this addressed in your video and I felt the mechanical options for correcting the flaw were neglected.
Thank you for doing what you do and thank you for the reply.
Yeah I agree, it’s a thing that simply happens at these prices and almost always requires a tiny tweak. I get that that isn’t what newbies are supposed to do but it kind of makes all the other comparisons a bit useless.
Fella I got the exact problem! And I need help fixing it! What do I do!
@@McGrathElectricServices These problems are most likely caused by inconsistent gantry movements. The first thing I would do in your situation is loosen off the Z motor mount as well as the upper 3 frame pieces from the body and make sure it's all square. This may require you to readjust the tension on the rollers of your gantry.
I want to buy my first 3d printer... What do you recommend?
….and you have unlimited funds to play with?
Any ideas on how to fix the underextrusion? I have similar issues with my CR10S. Underextrusion and some minor imperfections.
What? Under Extrusion on a printer from the same manufacturer he's comparing the U30 to? No, can't be.
@@dbantner Sadly. I managed to improve a bit by setting the flow to 109% which is what I calculated but now I occasionally get the entire Z axis to hop over parts that have just blobs of non adhered plastic on and the extruder constantly skips due to the curved bed on the printer. And mind you this is my 3rd original Creality glass that is bent. Fucking garbage. People had better luch with an Ender that is 50% of the price. My next printer is a Prusa.
Thank you for you amazing vidéo like always
You might try changing the cable wire going to the extruder stepper. I've had poorly crimped wire connections cause that same issue.
Nah you can't fix Stupid! (Gearbest)
A lot of your comparisons are showing the U30 prints against an Ender 5 print. But your video is telling me that this is an Ender 3 clone done wrong. Why not show the print qualities between the Ender 3 and the U30?
His review of the Ender 3 was from 6 months ago while the Ender 5 review was just last month. He probably doesn't have comparable prints (different filament, or just different 3d models), and doing a print now would be unfair after all of the upgrades he's added to the Ender 3. Ender 5 uses the same mainboard, extruder, hotend, and build surface as the 3. Only real differences are the frame, z-axis, and the lcd screen, but prints should be nearly identical.
@@deceitive3338 Then compare it to an Ender 5
I really wish you could get your hands on the Geeetech A10. It is also a Ender 3 colon. But with better improvements, (in writing that is)? It has the OPEN SOURCE GT2560 control board, runs on 24 volt/360W PS and has a boot loader for updates built in. Plus it's $185.99 plus 5.99 shipping USD. Very affordable! All the stuff people have to pay extra for to upgrade the Ender 3. Thanks for the video, very informative. Your thoughts on this?
Colon?????
Michael / Teaching Tech has done a couple of videos on the Geeetech A10m - the dual extruder version of the A10 if you're interested.
Ian Jeffery not really, just a better Ender 3. I believe! But I have not touch one as of yet!
I saw that video. You concentrated on the dual filament extruder and how it printed. Good video! But the A10 is true a better version of the Ender 3, to me! . I wish someone would (you) compare this one? I believe this printer is an underdog that is getting over looked and soon will be gone?
As I said, Teachingtech makes great videos that are very helpful! But in the case of the Geeetech A10M video, he concentrated on the dual filament printing, not in depth of the A10 part of the printer! I wish he could get his hands on the A10 to compare to the Ender. Other video makers have raved about the A10 kicking Ender 3's ass! I respect Teachingtechs opinion and would like to see this review?
This printer seems like it was made by someone who has seen pictures and diagrams of a Ender 3 but never used one.
Lovely exploding 3d printer...any idea if it is the extruder or still the stepper?
honest review...
so cheaper Chinese clones of cheap Chinese clones.... sounds like a recipe for disaster!
xD
Wow! The toy printer I had before (M3D mini) blows that away!
Yikes, what a piece of crap...it's sad to watch these Chinese companies race to see who can make the cheapest printer (with the greatest profit) using the cheapest components available. I've had a similar disaster with a GeeeTech A10, which they claim is "beginner friendly" as well. I really wish 3D printing enthusiasts would make a clear choice between quality versus absolute cheapest. People see the low low price and throw their dollars at junk like this
way always clone ? Geeetech A10 release 1st then Creality
thankx
sory for my bad english but i have this printer just 1 week from gearbest shop i dont have any problem maybe your printer have problem i make the order and after 1 day i see your video that scare me but is all good !!! for me i update the firmware in the first day i make all test i make my 3d gunstock for vr and is all ok and very smooth without any issue sad for your why you dont sent it back ??? me i am noobie on 3d is my first time with 3d printer and all my print succes very easy menu and very good so far
didnt gearbest just get called out for stealing content from youtubers to use in its promotional videos? I wouldn't support gearbest anymore particularly since they used the insulation of being Chinese to keep them from any legal action
I can't find this in China
Hi,
I’m from Italy, so forgive me if my english it’s not that good. I’m an absolute beginner in the 3d printers world, but after watching several review of this printer I dcided to pull the trigger and buy it. I’m really surprise of your very bad review, because for me for that pricethis printer is great, very similar to the ender 3, wich a friend of mine Owens, in terms of quality. The only 3 scenario that I can see for this bad review are:
1) You are Paid by somebody close to Creality to make bad review of the competitor
2) Your printer was faulty
3) You are not that good in 3d Print, because if an assolute beginner like me was able to achieve very good result with just few adjustment that every printer require, I can’t understand how an esperti in 3d printer like you got such a bad result, especially that horrible 3d benchy.
Have a nice day
Bye
Seeing as you're such a satisfied customer then, you won't be asking anyone for advice when you get problems will you.
"Hey your House is going to burn down! I mean im Not gonna do anything about it, Just thought I'd Tell ya"
Its Not even that cheap, this printer is so garbage
You saved me from buying one of these
you haven't made it till you get cloned
Soon you'll only be allowed to make parts in the cloud on a printer somewhere in India etc.
it's very cheap, I don't remember 3D printers being that price at all.
LOL....never mind the quality, feel the width.....never a more truer word said in jest.
why clone a perfect really cheap printer? ender 3 is perfect
It’s okay. This channel is a clone.
ruclips.net/video/rYXKwKTZqaI/видео.html anyone else eagerly awaiting the upgrade video? Also having z banding, and sometimes underextrustion
i rather buy ender 3..
$20 in parts. I bid $10 shipped!
Awesome Video, but please get a new microphone
I didn't have any issues with sound on this video.
Why though ? His audio is already very decent
Get new speakers.
@@jasonorban1446Perhaps he needs new batteries in his hearing aid?