It should be made a law all around the world that if the murderer doesn't tell where the body is by the time they have served their sentence then they should remain in prison until they do. For every year they don't say where the body is, a further year should be added to their sentence..
I agree, 100% just like when there are fines or fees for all kinds of legal issues. If the courts can compel someone in prison to give restitution on money matters they can make them give up the location of the person they killed.
Not where I lived, thank god. Small town, less then 2000. 4 cops. They were all good. The sheriffs on the other hand, were the real bane of our town. The big sheriff, stalked my best friend and stole evidence from the locked safe. Thank the stars he was quickly fired and replaced. More for the stalking of my friend then stealing. He served 12 years
It’s common. Over 1k missing children in Ohio since January 2023. FBI, detectives and police aren’t doing a D A M N thing to find our children. You’re correct it’s sad but also disgusting 😢🤢😡
I refuse to back down on my thoughts that the sheriffs department was neglectful to this case due to their bad blood with the deceased family. I’ve seen police negligence in cases but this just feels personal!
I could've been convinced the PD was just grossly incompetent EXCEPT for the fact that they missed a DEAD BODY in the house that just SO happens to be a guy they didn't like and whose son they'd killed. Yeah...they were involved. Crooked cops.
yea they definitely paid off Busick and gave him a convenient cover story of "oH tHe BoDy MuSt HaVe BeEn MoVeD". It's all way too perfectly concocted to not be concocted by the cops.
The girls would have been found alive if Butter would have taken that insurance card seriously. All 3 of those men were pure evil,just disgusting. If it wouldn't have been for that family being so diligent and refusing to let this case be swept under the rug then those girls never would have gotten any justice at all. All of the answers were right there if only the detectives had done their jobs.
I was coming here to say the same thing! The were alive for two wks😢. What a piss poor investigation and I hope Nutter realizes how much he screwed up!
If the JUDGE took it seriously they wouldve been found but the JUDGE BELIEVED HIM and the justice system RELEASED HIM EARLY for "good behavior." Shame on THEM!
The mother astounds me. She went to the Mexican Cartel with her head held high looking for answers. DEMANDING answers. "If they start shooting at me, I must be getting close." She is so brave and strong.
That Nutter fella turning a blind eye to a body and two missing girls speaks volumes. He knew full well what their bodies not being at the scene likely meant. And yet he apparently chose to abandon them to their fate. Parents keep your children close.
I believe that they were waiting for the ashes to cool down and to remove his body and make it look like he did this and ran off with the girls. I believe someone within the local sheriff's office was in cahoots with those three dipshits.
@@robbiemckenzie7822 while that's possible when something can be adequately explained by stupidity it's the more likely option than malice (aka Hanlon's razor). the box of critical evidence was also just whoopsied but not destroyed. imo the police were simply too incompetent and/or lazy for their job, something that should be criminal in itself
Small town cops mess up all kinds of things like these all the time, especially decades ago. I grew up in a small town like this and it’s like going back in time.
@rondorthecruel124 alot times u hear this cus there uselly ain't this type of things or even murders it's ueslly the drink person driving or them bad relationship couple that always fight or them teens hiding n drinking but wen a murder happens they don't know how to handle it so sad
Steve Nutter’s immediate disregard of the insurance card - born from nothing but entitlement and contempt - caused deep suffering to these families, an inability to punish all three men responsible for this crime, and decades of an entire community needing closure. Hopefully this case haunts him to the corners of hell.
And he let those girls be murdered. They were held for two weeks. Two.god.damned.weeks. of torture and hell before being murdered. If he'd have done his job right, they might have found them. Yet he chose to go on this show as if he was some sort of hero. He has no remorse. No shame. No guilty conscience.
They knew what they were doing... It's just unlucky for the family to have bad blood with police and owing money to criminals. Just keep in mind that, police are humans too and they have violent, deceitful sobs among them who would murder multiple people for personal gain. Police should not be trusted because they are carrying badge. Trust should be established over time over their personality.
I’m glad both girls are mention by the family and not just their daughter. I’m sorry for your loss. They could’ve probably found the girls if they just did their damn job. The police should be ashamed.
Yes, the cops, should have gone straight to that guys place, or tracked him down after the family turned in his insurance card that they found in the rubble of that house. They think the girls were alive for weeks. They were 100 percent rescuable, if not for the laziness and apathy of that department.
So the police had beef with the dad, somehow don't find the dad's body and says he's the one who murdered his wife and kidnapped the girls, then ignore and "lose" the insurance card that would've directly led them to the ones responsible and the girls who were still alive for two weeks after the crime. That doesn't sound so much like incompetence to me but more like it's intentional. To think they could still be alive if only they had investigated on the insurance card that the family found ! It's infuriating.
You could not convince me that the cops were somehow not involved in this. From the crappy investigation, to the false confessions where the confessors “knew” information about the case, the playing of the system. That police dept is corrupt. Some officers are probably getting a cut from the traffickers.
I think the most damning thing was that they left a full on burt body with no face and tried to claim the whole place was clear and there was no more evidence to be found.....that alone shows how massively corrupt the system was with this case.
thats oklahoma , still the most backward and corrupt state in this part of the country , the worst ones are muskogee and tulsa county. and yes i live there.
The ammount of cases that are unsolved in this area is appalling. We did a candle light viguel for my wifes cousin who was murdered in a town over to these girls and we invited families of victims of unsolved cases from the area to come light a candle and put a picture/story for their family member. it was shocking to learn how many cases are left unsolved here.
I think people will be shocked that solved murder cases in the United States are under 50%. That means less than half of the homicides in America even get solved. With all the technology we have today. Now either we have incompetent police or smarter criminals, I'm going to go with a little of both. It still doesn't make any sense.
I saw this on DISAPPEARED 20 years ago & have followed. This is one of the saddest instances of criminal negligence by those we trust to protect the public. Nutter is a disgrace to law enforcement…
He should not have gotten the plea deal without producing the bodies period!!! 😡 They had the name on the insurance cards right there. They could have saved those girls. So sad and tragic
I lost my daughter & only child due to a malignant brain tumor. It’s been 29 years but my heart still aches. But at least I know where she is & what happened to her! Parents who have lost their children who have no idea where they are or what happened, I just can’t imagine! ❤️
I'm very sorry for the loss of your precious daughter, SKC. I pray God blesses you with all sweet memories of her and knowing she rests in His peace. ❤
I'm so enraged and sad for that poor mother! I hope those " investigators" rot in hell! That police department was definitely involved and Mr nutter butter should have been kicked out of his department long before he was!
Had that dumb fuck actually taken the stranger's insurance papers seriously, those girls would've still been alive, but of course, he couldn't be bothered doing his damn job, no, of course not, his dumb ass should be serving time for being dangerously stupid
I grew up there in Craig county. I waited on them at Pizza Hut the night they disappeared. The cops never even asked me questions. Also I think the Craig county sherrifs has something to do with it and no one will ever change my mind. I also think the guy in jail is a patsy. Busick. The guy isn’t even mentally adept. He has no memory of admitting to it. He was offered money and a release for information to their bodies and he had nothing. The supposed mastermind. And conveniently the other 2 are dead. Meth was rampant back then and now It’s fentanyl but people would do anything for some cash. Perhaps some methed out person or persons that got caught for some drug offense was offered money and no arrest to kill the Freemans. Then the meth heads went too far and took the girls too. Just a theory. I mean I have no idea. I just know with the pending case with the Freemans and Craig county sheriffs about the death of the murder of their son seems a little too convenient. And just personal interactions and other people I know, know how corrupt they were.
@@WinnowylDaemera But who were the 3 Guys involved ? And why confess ? If it was the sheriff's ? The Guy should tell them where the Bodies are they offered Him. A Deal !!
@@JasonSheppard-uy9ij Apparently they were drug dealers that spent time in Picher and Chetopa, KS. They DID offer him a deal. And he took it. And he's already out of prison. I don't think the cops *did it*. They had something to do with it, and were part of a cover up. Those girls absolutely could have been found alive. That insurance card that they tried to hand over the first day belonged to the woman that was dating one of the men. Her car had been used. If they'd followed up on that THAT DAY, those girls would be home.
Wait so….That Busick guy made a plea deal that IF he told them where the bodies were, he’d get a much lessor sentence???? And yet, they did NOT find ANYTHING and he STILL was granted the plea deal??? 🤔
Literally could've found them within a week and might've been alive if they just looked at the insurance card yet Nutter's team epicly failed any kind of investigation.
The lack of investigation is due to the cop department involvement in the crime… a small town, with three guys selling drugs? Witness seeing the Polaroids and not saying anything? Is not because of fear of the bad guys, is because of fear of the cops.
Unlabelled box of evidence tells a story, not placing the girls on MISSING list tells a story, verbally? blaming or newspaper blaming the girls did this with NO evidence, not checking into the insurance card, not looking?/finding the father in the burnt building not sure if that is police or fire dept investigators, but all appear to be poor work ethics and possible involvement. This treatment does make the sheriff look guilty of murdering the man's son.
I cant believe the judge kept the guys plea deal, even when the girl's bodies were not where he said they were...so disgusting to know he got out this year on "good behavior" 🙄...our justice system is a complete and utter joke. God, just tell the families where their girls are at! Let them finally get some closer!
Same situation in Trenton Missouri. Local sheriff covered up evidence, and closed case on a young man that went missing. A year later he was found hanging from a tree in plane site .But he was a corpse and his feet were gone .A private investigation showed he had been in a freezer and died a year earlier. The family had to investigate on thier own and nothing or no one in the local sheriff s office were questioned
That's Tanner Ward.... If i remember correctly his sister did most of the invastigating cause the cops didn't want to.... His death was ruled a suicide by hanging.... That's one od the cases that bothers me the most ever since i heard about it... True crime daily has a episode about it...
Lorene Bible is amazing. What happened to the girls and the rest of the Freeman family was inexcusable, but at the same time she ought to be regarded as a hero for her tireless fight for justice and for giving the girls a positive legacy.
I'm shocked no one sued the sheriff's/FBI office for ignoring the one piece if evidence that could have saved both girls because they were alive for 2 weeks.
When they are making a plea deal with a criminal involving finding a missing body, the deal should only be completed if the body is actually found. My condolences to the families. I know it's never been the same and never will be. I am sorry for your losses.
Ive lived in Grove my whole life and i remember this. The negligence from the cops was just unreal... Ive always felt so bad for laurias mama and still pray they find the girls
This is horrifying. There’s a very very good chance those girls would have been found alive if those worthless assholes would have just done their jobs.
So I’m pretty sure this is the case where the Sheriff’s Department had opened the crime scene back up and it turned out they ware walking on a second body (the dad)! If not, than it was an almost identical case down to an ongoing feud with the Sheriff. Btw- we need a civilian-led organization to help people dealing with rogue officers and departments.
The girls were born the same year as me. I have had 23 extra years on this earth. It's not an easy life, but still a gift that shouldn't be taken for granted. You girls were owed more in this life😢
The lack of police investigation & the fact that this guy served only 38 months out of a 10 year sentence is sickening!!! I am so very sorry. My heart goes out to the families of these girls. I am so sorry. So so sorry
What an amazing family. RIP to these two young girls. And thank you for the work that you do on this channel. Please do a video on Alison Botha. Her survivor story is truly horrific but remarkable. Or please look into Kele Stout. He survived after being shot 3 times and beaten savagely, but still managed to escape and drive himself to the hospital. That incident happened a few years in Hawaii close to where I live.
To have to seek out evidence to find your missing child is hard enough, let alone to have to do it while the police are being unhelpful is just unbearable. What those poor parents went through is enough to break a parent. Not to mention those horrid photos of their precious child circulating for people to get their thrills from 💔 My heart couldnt take it if that happened to my daughter 😢
This is a serious breach of trust with regard to the previous Sheriff's department. They purposefuly held back evidence. They should definitely be held accountable.
I was 19 when this happened, and lived in the next county over in Miami, OK when this happened. Picher was about 5ish miles away. In 2008, I stood outside on my patio, and watched the tornado wipe it off the map. Every one of those cops should be held responsible for this.
I have two questions: 1. Why does the US consider and grant early release for violent offenders? Surely, the dude busted for pot and is in for life would be a better candidate. 2. Why wasn't being able to locate the bodies a condition of the plea agreement?? I know sometimes prosecutors do that. Why in the hell not for this one? That Judge should be yanked from the bench to think that asshole had any shred of truth coming out of his mouth. (Especially since so many witnesses came forward and shared the same story of what happened to the girls!) If someone works in the law and/or knows I would sincerely be grateful to you for your time!
The word haven't come to my head while i type this comment, but the way Lurine kept both her daughter and the other girl in her search and flyers says a lot about the type of mother she was/is...and the type of human she is .... I pray her and her family and friends all the peace that will help them nd sending her love straight out of Trinidad 🇹🇹
Regarding Nutter -- it always burns my biscuits in these stories when the families have to beg the cops to do their jobs. Like, this is what you're PAID to do.
It almost sounds like Nutter was involved as well as the cops. Why else would they do such a terrible job with this case? How do you miss a body the way they did? What shoddy police work.
Any chance you could do the case about a girl from my hometown and has never been found? It’s a pretty crazy story and just recently her ex was arrested for murder but her body still has yet to be found. This happened in Franklin county Va in 2012. Her name is Heather Hodges. She was a good person and a friend and would love to have her story out there and hopefully one day her and her family can get some peace and she can be found 😞
This happened a couple towns over from me, my dad was from there and spent several years dwelling on this case due to the circumstances. That local law enforcement has always sucked horribly, it doesn’t surprise me or anyone I know, that they didn’t solve the case. So much neglect and shady shit from that sheriffs department. I’ve always heard from locals and family members that they were dumped in an old mine but nobody has ever found a trace of them. I was also hearing for a bit that they were dumped in septic tank and it was buried. Nothing I’ve ever heard has brought answers though.
RIP to the victims🕊️ you are not forgotten! This is one horrifyingly insane story. From unfathomable torture to incompetence. I’ve seen this case covered quite a few times. I know, this will be the best telling!!! Perhaps now, the Freeman family and lil Ms. Bible can truly and finally, rest in peace. 💐💚💐💚
all I can say, those girls were loved, their parents and mothers are amazing women, if I was a victim and still alive knowing that someone cared and searched so far and wide for , I would know I was loved. Thanks for being that amazing, well done, and sorry for your loss
This is truly a parent's worst nightmare. Worse even then a child being dead, because you never know for sure what's happened to them. If they're dead or alive, if they're being hurt, what's happening to them. I don't know if I'd be strong enough to keep living. It seems like the worst possible torment.
I am absolutely horrified at the complete lack of competency of the sheriff's and that Nutter man. Absolutely disgusting. It's staggering how they handled ecery single thing in this case. Those poor girls could of possibly been found if they had done a proper investigation and followed every lead. Hearing that Nutter was annoyed with it being released to press and calls started coming in is unfathomable. My heart truly hurts for all family and friends left to navigate through their lives after losing those 2 girls.
Fantastic cover of this story! Oh....those poor girls, what awful disgusting men. The cops were pitiful and arrogant. If they had instantly checked out the things the family found in the debris, or heaven forbid, found it themselves, the girls might have been found alive. 💙
The fact that they could have been found alive, but weren’t, because of a grudge, ego, and $hitty “police work”….really pisses me off. You have to be a huge POS to not do your job to the best of your ability, especially when missing children are involved. “Sorry we could have found your children alive, but since we didn’t follow up on the lead you placed in our hands, we didn’t.” May there be no rest for the wicked!!
Those poor girls. It must have been terrifying for them being kidnapped by those evil men. I hope they are eventually found for the sake of their families.
Even if the girls were suspects.... they would of been wanted for murder. Nuttter seemed like he never wanted to look for them regardless of suspects or missing victims. That's ridiculous.
Shame on that whole investigating team for ignoring those family members and flat out treating them like garbage!!! They could have saved those girls had that family been taken seriously!!! For them to have “missed” the body of that husband/father inside the home is 100% proof that they were negligent from the start! 😢
“If they start shooting at me, then I must be close!” I have been in the place that I would quite literally die if it meant that I could have answers. If I could finally know and get closure. I completely understand this line of thinking and I wish the absolute best for these people
After watching the video all the way through, it’s pretty obvious that the Sheriff’s Department knew who did it or at least thought that they knew and that OSBI was covering up for them. The sheriff’s department was after the family and didn’t want to be sued. The sheriff and his deputies probably thought that the killers did their dirty work for them. A new sheriff and a new OSBI agent solved the case quickly.
11:30. I don't know of a Mom who was as determined as the one in this. That made me feel something warm, as the magnitude and ferocity of her will to find her daughter. God Bless That Family
Wow! The I don’t give a 💩 is strong in this “detective”! To think if they had of done their jobs right these girls may have been found alive or at least recovered for a proper burial. 😢 Such a brave beautiful mama & family
I remember this story, but never heard what happened to the girls. Thank you for sharing. It's horrible their case was ignored until a new Sheriff came along. I think psychics should help give them a proper resting place. ♥
How could the judge in good conscious release such a heinous and evil individual? He didnr even serve half of his sentence and the girls were never found! What is going on here?
Literally! It’s one of the very few channels ive post notifications turned on for, they’re so well researched and structured so whoever’s doing the work going into these case reviews is nailing it, 10x more accurate than traditional/mainstream media👏
Have you heard of the Brian Varela/Alyssa Noceda case? It was in Everett Washington. He SA'd her while she was overdosing, took pics and videos, sent it to his group chat with his friends making jokes and bragging about it. He got *_LESS THAN 3 YEARS._* Its not a very well known case since its local.
@@tylerskiss yes. She died. He left her there in his room after SAing her and sending the pics and videos of her. He went to work while she died slowly.
This whole case is a travesty. I hope the girls and the mom and dad rest well. I can't believe the total incompetence the police showed in the years until the new sheriff came. It is so frustrating and infuriating. I hope the families know they did everything possible for justice. It failed them, they didn't fail the girls
Those girls were my own daughter's age. If one of mine were done this way, that Busick bastard would be getting a visit that he would not enjoy. What could they do to a grieving father that 20 years of hell hadn't already done to him? God bless the families of these two young ladies.
Why was that officer not arrested for not doing his job and most likely working with drug dealers.This case would have been solved and most likely the girls would have been found if the police followed up on the insurance card.This whole case stinks of a massive cover up.My prayers are with girls family's and friends.
When will shitty detectives, & judges ever be held accountable for neglect in these cases ?! They put in such little effort in Some of these cases that any normal person with no training in law enforcement or anything can even figure it out … It’s baffling.
It's sad and heartbreaking for both families especially Christmas is coming. May they find peace and forgiveness and give justice for Laura and Ashley.
The police and Steve Nutter deserve prison time too. Their negligence contributed to the girls deaths as they had 2 weeks where a decent investigation might have saved them.
I've been watching your videos and this one made me cry. It's the pain of not knowing. The people waiting for them are all courageous and strong. Wherever these 2 beautiful souls maybe, you are both strong and may you find peace.
Good grief, what these poor families went through was more than anyone should have to endure. What an arrogant, self righteous ppprly skilled Nutter, Nutter was. And having a psychopath play with you like a mouse in a trap is beyond. My heart aches for them all. So, so sad. I hope they find some peace. That's a terrible way to spend your life, chasing shadows.
Kudos to Lauria's parents for not being completely bitter about the fact that the Craig County sheriff's office did such a poor job of investigating this matter. I can't say that I would be as forgiving as they have been.
I’ve watched hundred of True Crime videos. I started crying weeping at the end. Maybe cause I have a daughter and her names is Laura. How brave is this mum?
Nutter should be prosecuted for his negligence. Why be an investigator if you aren’t interested in any leads, dismiss every idea from the families and the admit your annoyance of tips that are rolling in?? Clearly he has some times with people involved. Furthermore, sentencing one of the only surviving suspects who plead guilty to being an accessory to her death (!!!) to only 10 years and the LETTING him walk free after only 36 months for “good behavior “ is beyond disgusting. I have zero faith in our judicial system. So deeply flawed and pathetic, quite honestly. My heard breaks for this family and I pray they find the girls soon and give them a proper burial.
God promises terrifying and agonizing judgement for trespassing His Law (10 commandments) after Judgement Day when every single person will be judged on the last day before the King of Kings. This includes you and me and "little" transgressions like lying and stealing and pride. Repent toward God and believe in Jesus Christ so that you can be forgiven for YOUR sin of breaking God's Law and be granted eternal life after death. There is justice and it's terrible
Those poor girls. What a horrible way to die. It's a shame that the law enforcement officers involved in the original investigation can't be sued for negligence
You can’t find a body in a house fire that the fire department didn’t allready find. At least not without some kind of corruption going on the fire department would have to choose not to find the body.
Why am i not surprised that the police department is shady. I had a acquaintance who came from OK & he said that the sherif's department set his home on fire & killed his parents. Then his sibling & him left town after that. Bc they wanted the families property & they would get it from him & his sibling dead or alive. I thought it was awful. You always think those Mid states are homey but i was informed differently by someone from them there
It should be made a law all around the world that if the murderer doesn't tell where the body is by the time they have served their sentence then they should remain in prison until they do. For every year they don't say where the body is, a further year should be added to their sentence..
I agree, 100% just like when there are fines or fees for all kinds of legal issues. If the courts can compel someone in prison to give restitution on money matters they can make them give up the location of the person they killed.
It should be made a law that a murderer never gets out no matter what
I agree 100 percent with this
This was recently made law in Australia following a particularly heinous case, and has now already been used this year. No body, no chance of release.
Some places it does apply ...
the lack of investigation done by the police is actually so saddening
Not to be unexpected since they were clearly on the take. Small town police forces are usually the biggest criminal organizations in small towns
Not where I lived, thank god. Small town, less then 2000. 4 cops. They were all good. The sheriffs on the other hand, were the real bane of our town. The big sheriff, stalked my best friend and stole evidence from the locked safe. Thank the stars he was quickly fired and replaced. More for the stalking of my friend then stealing. He served 12 years
The cartel has so much power they can just pay them off the police are so corrupt tbf I would be terrified of them too
It’s common. Over 1k missing children in Ohio since January 2023. FBI, detectives and police aren’t doing a D A M N thing to find our children.
You’re correct it’s sad but also disgusting 😢🤢😡
Those police officers need stop sitting on there damn butt and investigate more
I refuse to back down on my thoughts that the sheriffs department was neglectful to this case due to their bad blood with the deceased family. I’ve seen police negligence in cases but this just feels personal!
They sound like Kansas cops. Most are dirty and unskilled.
True
Also they lied about the
Lie Detector Test 😮
I think that the positive aspect of this is beautiful. To be remembered for their positive impacts and continue helping people in their names ❤
What a courageous human you are.
I could've been convinced the PD was just grossly incompetent EXCEPT for the fact that they missed a DEAD BODY in the house that just SO happens to be a guy they didn't like and whose son they'd killed. Yeah...they were involved. Crooked cops.
It was reported that they stepped on the father's body during their investigation.
As with most departments. Our government is corrupt and people seem to forget that police are the government.
The cops were definitely involved their crooked cops in a small town Democrats probably
yea they definitely paid off Busick and gave him a convenient cover story of "oH tHe BoDy MuSt HaVe BeEn MoVeD". It's all way too perfectly concocted to not be concocted by the cops.
It wouldn't surprise me if the cops orchestrated the whole thing.
The girls would have been found alive if Butter would have taken that insurance card seriously. All 3 of those men were pure evil,just disgusting. If it wouldn't have been for that family being so diligent and refusing to let this case be swept under the rug then those girls never would have gotten any justice at all. All of the answers were right there if only the detectives had done their jobs.
I was coming here to say the same thing! The were alive for two wks😢. What a piss poor investigation and I hope Nutter realizes how much he screwed up!
He should be held accountable for his negligence
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Not a first time
If the JUDGE took it seriously they wouldve been found but the JUDGE BELIEVED HIM and the justice system RELEASED HIM EARLY for "good behavior." Shame on THEM!
The mother astounds me. She went to the Mexican Cartel with her head held high looking for answers. DEMANDING answers.
"If they start shooting at me, I must be getting close."
She is so brave and strong.
A amazing mother
I want to know how she got ahold of the cartel LOL
That Nutter fella turning a blind eye to a body and two missing girls speaks volumes.
He knew full well what their bodies not being at the scene likely meant. And yet he apparently chose to abandon them to their fate.
Parents keep your children close.
How on earth do you accidentally leave a body behind at a crime scene?!? No way.
I believe that they were waiting for the ashes to cool down and to remove his body and make it look like he did this and ran off with the girls. I believe someone within the local sheriff's office was in cahoots with those three dipshits.
@@robbiemckenzie7822 while that's possible when something can be adequately explained by stupidity it's the more likely option than malice (aka Hanlon's razor). the box of critical evidence was also just whoopsied but not destroyed. imo the police were simply too incompetent and/or lazy for their job, something that should be criminal in itself
Small town cops mess up all kinds of things like these all the time, especially decades ago. I grew up in a small town like this and it’s like going back in time.
It could be a possibility, but the scene should not ever have been released till someone had checked it again, .
@rondorthecruel124 alot times u hear this cus there uselly ain't this type of things or even murders it's ueslly the drink person driving or them bad relationship couple that always fight or them teens hiding n drinking but wen a murder happens they don't know how to handle it so sad
Steve Nutter’s immediate disregard of the insurance card - born from nothing but entitlement and contempt - caused deep suffering to these families, an inability to punish all three men responsible for this crime, and decades of an entire community needing closure. Hopefully this case haunts him to the corners of hell.
well put.
And he let those girls be murdered.
They were held for two weeks.
Two.god.damned.weeks. of torture and hell before being murdered.
If he'd have done his job right, they might have found them.
Yet he chose to go on this show as if he was some sort of hero. He has no remorse. No shame. No guilty conscience.
They knew what they were doing... It's just unlucky for the family to have bad blood with police and owing money to criminals. Just keep in mind that, police are humans too and they have violent, deceitful sobs among them who would murder multiple people for personal gain. Police should not be trusted because they are carrying badge. Trust should be established over time over their personality.
Spot on.@@TiptonMama
He knew.
I’m glad both girls are mention by the family and not just their daughter. I’m sorry for your loss. They could’ve probably found the girls if they just did their damn job. The police should be ashamed.
Yes, the cops, should have gone straight to that guys place, or tracked him down after the family turned in his insurance card that they found in the rubble of that house. They think the girls were alive for weeks. They were 100 percent rescuable, if not for the laziness and apathy of that department.
Those cops probably got promotions and raises
ash is my cousin. thank you for seeing the problem. others looked over the cops
Always remember, the police are not your friends.
They should be held accountable
So the police had beef with the dad, somehow don't find the dad's body and says he's the one who murdered his wife and kidnapped the girls, then ignore and "lose" the insurance card that would've directly led them to the ones responsible and the girls who were still alive for two weeks after the crime. That doesn't sound so much like incompetence to me but more like it's intentional.
To think they could still be alive if only they had investigated on the insurance card that the family found ! It's infuriating.
Sounds like the usual dirty cops
You could not convince me that the cops were somehow not involved in this. From the crappy investigation, to the false confessions where the confessors “knew” information about the case, the playing of the system. That police dept is corrupt. Some officers are probably getting a cut from the traffickers.
That was my conclusion, that there might have been collusion between the police and the drug dealers.
And the F.B.I. agent should also be ashamed. This is the level of people right now, that are in these positions of power. Absolutely disgusting.
Absolutely... they are always cops getting paid to keep quiet n allow it to happen! Fayetteville police dept NC is one of em.
I think the most damning thing was that they left a full on burt body with no face and tried to claim the whole place was clear and there was no more evidence to be found.....that alone shows how massively corrupt the system was with this case.
thats oklahoma , still the most backward and corrupt state in this part of the country , the worst ones are muskogee and tulsa county. and yes i live there.
The ammount of cases that are unsolved in this area is appalling. We did a candle light viguel for my wifes cousin who was murdered in a town over to these girls and we invited families of victims of unsolved cases from the area to come light a candle and put a picture/story for their family member. it was shocking to learn how many cases are left unsolved here.
Because that sheriff dept corrupt as hell
Sounds like the FBI needs to investigate these girls deserve justice and proper burials
I think people will be shocked that solved murder cases in the United States are under 50%. That means less than half of the homicides in America even get solved. With all the technology we have today. Now either we have incompetent police or smarter criminals, I'm going to go with a little of both. It still doesn't make any sense.
the amount of m’s you used in amount is appalling
I saw this on DISAPPEARED 20 years ago & have followed. This is one of the saddest instances of criminal negligence by those we trust to protect the public. Nutter is a disgrace to law enforcement…
As a former cop, pitiful investigation done by the Sheriffs Dept
@@NorthCalActionFigures
I’m sure better than any you will be ever good for. Good for nothing with your rude creepy self.
@@NorthCalActionFiguresand what are you good at other than typing your meaningless fingers on a phone keyboard?
@@NorthCalActionFigurescan’t get attention from daddy, so you seek attention from online strangers.
It's the same in a lot of places. That's why people don't like them or trust them.
Thank You for speaking out.
That means a lot. Thank you for your strength
He should not have gotten the plea deal without producing the bodies period!!! 😡 They had the name on the insurance cards right there. They could have saved those girls. So sad and tragic
I lost my daughter & only child due to a malignant brain tumor. It’s been 29 years but my heart still aches. But at least I know where she is & what happened to her! Parents who have lost their children who have no idea where they are or what happened, I just can’t imagine! ❤️
I'm very sorry for the loss of your precious daughter, SKC. I pray God blesses you with all sweet memories of her and knowing she rests in His peace. ❤
Awwww im so very sorry for your loss sweet 😢...
Not knowing is a torture no parent should have to face. I hope your soul is peaceful now, your baby isn't in pain ❤
I'm so enraged and sad for that poor mother! I hope those " investigators" rot in hell! That police department was definitely involved and Mr nutter butter should have been kicked out of his department long before he was!
Had that dumb fuck actually taken the stranger's insurance papers seriously, those girls would've still been alive, but of course, he couldn't be bothered doing his damn job, no, of course not, his dumb ass should be serving time for being dangerously stupid
Murdered 2 people but because he behaves well in prison he only has to serve 3 years. What an absolute farce.
He didn't do it. The pigs in the Sheriff's dept. did it and used him as a scapegoat. It's pretty obvious tbh.
Despicable.
I never understood this "behaves well" thing bro is literally a murder, behaves well???
@@c0nicalflask over population in the prison
Lorraine and Jay and their neice are amazing. I love so much that they kept fighting for BOTH girls. Absolutely powerful and motivational.
I grew up there in Craig county. I waited on them at Pizza Hut the night they disappeared. The cops never even asked me questions. Also I think the Craig county sherrifs has something to do with it and no one will ever change my mind.
I also think the guy in jail is a patsy. Busick. The guy isn’t even mentally adept. He has no memory of admitting to it. He was offered money and a release for information to their bodies and he had nothing. The supposed mastermind. And conveniently the other 2 are dead. Meth was rampant back then and now
It’s fentanyl but people would do anything for some cash. Perhaps some methed out person or persons that got caught for some drug offense was offered money and no arrest to kill the Freemans. Then the meth heads went too far and took the girls too. Just a theory. I mean I have no idea. I just know with the pending case with the Freemans and Craig county sheriffs about the death of the murder of their son seems a little too convenient. And just personal interactions and other people I know, know how corrupt they were.
Omg creepy I rember when this Happened I lived in Spavinaw at the Time But now live in the South I wonder if they will ever be Found???
I was over in Miami at the time. I'm with you, and no one will ever change my mind, either.
@@WinnowylDaemera But who were the 3 Guys involved ? And why confess ? If it was the sheriff's ? The Guy should tell them where the Bodies are they offered Him. A Deal !!
@@JasonSheppard-uy9ij Apparently they were drug dealers that spent time in Picher and Chetopa, KS. They DID offer him a deal. And he took it. And he's already out of prison.
I don't think the cops *did it*. They had something to do with it, and were part of a cover up. Those girls absolutely could have been found alive. That insurance card that they tried to hand over the first day belonged to the woman that was dating one of the men. Her car had been used. If they'd followed up on that THAT DAY, those girls would be home.
If the cops asked you questions, would you have had any answers?
Wait so….That Busick guy made a plea deal that IF he told them where the bodies were, he’d get a much lessor sentence???? And yet, they did NOT find ANYTHING and he STILL was granted the plea deal??? 🤔
It's Oklahoma.Remember that.
AND got out SEVEN YEARS early!! 😡
I feel so sad for Lorraine. She fought hard for her little girl. It is heartbreaking
Literally could've found them within a week and might've been alive if they just looked at the insurance card yet Nutter's team epicly failed any kind of investigation.
Failed, big time!
It’s called the police were involved
It's pretty obvious they didn't so much fail the investigation as deliberately do a shitty job because they had a vendetta against the dad.
How could they have been found by the insurance card?
@@katesun2957 - Because it belonged to one of the kidnappers.
The lack of investigation is due to the cop department involvement in the crime… a small town, with three guys selling drugs? Witness seeing the Polaroids and not saying anything? Is not because of fear of the bad guys, is because of fear of the cops.
Or fear of both.
It had nothing to do with the sheriffs department they just didn’t investigate because they didn’t like the family
Unlabelled box of evidence tells a story, not placing the girls on MISSING list tells a story, verbally? blaming or newspaper blaming the girls did this with NO evidence, not checking into the insurance card, not looking?/finding the father in the burnt building not sure if that is police or fire dept investigators, but all appear to be poor work ethics and possible involvement. This treatment does make the sheriff look guilty of murdering the man's son.
@@Idontcarejones You have no proof and all the evidence suggests otherwise.
My question is… why or how did the death of the drug dealers son come about?
"The girls did this"... Oh man I was so pissed at that-
Me too!
I cant believe the judge kept the guys plea deal, even when the girl's bodies were not where he said they were...so disgusting to know he got out this year on "good behavior" 🙄...our justice system is a complete and utter joke.
God, just tell the families where their girls are at! Let them finally get some closer!
The DA & the judge both knew he was a patsy and since he did his job of protecting the real culprits they let him out early.
Same situation in Trenton Missouri. Local sheriff covered up evidence, and closed case on a young man that went missing. A year later he was found hanging from a tree in plane site .But he was a corpse and his feet were gone .A private investigation showed he had been in a freezer and died a year earlier. The family had to investigate on thier own and nothing or no one in the local sheriff s office were questioned
I seen this case before!
Sounds like investigation. Ed's to happen in the police dept!. Who do you go to for that?
What the hell?
That's Tanner Ward.... If i remember correctly his sister did most of the invastigating cause the cops didn't want to....
His death was ruled a suicide by hanging....
That's one od the cases that bothers me the most ever since i heard about it...
True crime daily has a episode about it...
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The state Attorney General. But if it is anything like NYS a fake investigation is done and everything goes back to normal.
This family got zero justice and the bodies of the girls were never found. That really sucks.
That fact that they didn’t find his body is just unbelievable! Law enforcement was crooked as a pretzel!
Lorene Bible is amazing. What happened to the girls and the rest of the Freeman family was inexcusable, but at the same time she ought to be regarded as a hero for her tireless fight for justice and for giving the girls a positive legacy.
I'm shocked no one sued the sheriff's/FBI office for ignoring the one piece if evidence that could have saved both girls because they were alive for 2 weeks.
When they are making a plea deal with a criminal involving finding a missing body, the deal should only be completed if the body is actually found. My condolences to the families. I know it's never been the same and never will be. I am sorry for your losses.
Ive lived in Grove my whole life and i remember this. The negligence from the cops was just unreal... Ive always felt so bad for laurias mama and still pray they find the girls
This is horrifying. There’s a very very good chance those girls would have been found alive if those worthless assholes would have just done their jobs.
Yeah let's all worship the blue line thugs
Facts.
So I’m pretty sure this is the case where the Sheriff’s Department had opened the crime scene back up and it turned out they ware walking on a second body (the dad)!
If not, than it was an almost identical case down to an ongoing feud with the Sheriff.
Btw- we need a civilian-led organization to help people dealing with rogue officers and departments.
We have a civilian-led organization. It's called "tax-payers".
Absolutely! The same same with the 'Feds' bc we all know how CORRUPT they are, all the way to the top (I.E.-WRAY) & our own Congress can't do sh.t!
We do. It's called the 2nd amendment.
Can’t begin to imagine the pain these parents live with.
My heart goes out to them.
The girls were born the same year as me. I have had 23 extra years on this earth. It's not an easy life, but still a gift that shouldn't be taken for granted. You girls were owed more in this life😢
The lack of police investigation & the fact that this guy served only 38 months out of a 10 year sentence is sickening!!! I am so very sorry. My heart goes out to the families of these girls. I am so sorry. So so sorry
What an amazing family. RIP to these two young girls. And thank you for the work that you do on this channel. Please do a video on Alison Botha. Her survivor story is truly horrific but remarkable. Or please look into Kele Stout. He survived after being shot 3 times and beaten savagely, but still managed to escape and drive himself to the hospital. That incident happened a few years in Hawaii close to where I live.
To have to seek out evidence to find your missing child is hard enough, let alone to have to do it while the police are being unhelpful is just unbearable. What those poor parents went through is enough to break a parent. Not to mention those horrid photos of their precious child circulating for people to get their thrills from 💔 My heart couldnt take it if that happened to my daughter 😢
The most frustrating part in this kind of case is an un-cooperative, crooked & Corrupt Cops who are/were the main investigators.
This is a serious breach of trust with regard to the previous Sheriff's department. They purposefuly held back evidence. They should definitely be held accountable.
I was 19 when this happened, and lived in the next county over in Miami, OK when this happened. Picher was about 5ish miles away. In 2008, I stood outside on my patio, and watched the tornado wipe it off the map.
Every one of those cops should be held responsible for this.
What a good mama. My heart breaks for her. I'm sending her prayers and hugs.
I have two questions: 1. Why does the US consider and grant early release for violent offenders? Surely, the dude busted for pot and is in for life would be a better candidate. 2. Why wasn't being able to locate the bodies a condition of the plea agreement?? I know sometimes prosecutors do that. Why in the hell not for this one? That Judge should be yanked from the bench to think that asshole had any shred of truth coming out of his mouth. (Especially since so many witnesses came forward and shared the same story of what happened to the girls!) If someone works in the law and/or knows I would sincerely be grateful to you for your time!
The word haven't come to my head while i type this comment, but the way Lurine kept both her daughter and the other girl in her search and flyers says a lot about the type of mother she was/is...and the type of human she is .... I pray her and her family and friends all the peace that will help them nd sending her love straight out of Trinidad 🇹🇹
Regarding Nutter -- it always burns my biscuits in these stories when the families have to beg the cops to do their jobs. Like, this is what you're PAID to do.
It almost sounds like Nutter was involved as well as the cops. Why else would they do such a terrible job with this case? How do you miss a body the way they did? What shoddy police work.
I remember this story being profiled on Unsolved Mysteries years ago and thinking that the police didn't do enough. RIP Ashley and Laura.
Any chance you could do the case about a girl from my hometown and has never been found? It’s a pretty crazy story and just recently her ex was arrested for murder but her body still has yet to be found. This happened in Franklin county Va in 2012. Her name is Heather Hodges. She was a good person and a friend and would love to have her story out there and hopefully one day her and her family can get some peace and she can be found 😞
This happened a couple towns over from me, my dad was from there and spent several years dwelling on this case due to the circumstances. That local law enforcement has always sucked horribly, it doesn’t surprise me or anyone I know, that they didn’t solve the case. So much neglect and shady shit from that sheriffs department. I’ve always heard from locals and family members that they were dumped in an old mine but nobody has ever found a trace of them. I was also hearing for a bit that they were dumped in septic tank and it was buried. Nothing I’ve ever heard has brought answers though.
Same I was in columbus and about the same age we were all just told your not allowed to go to Miami even though it didn't happen there
Yes, I heard that either a pit or old mine in Picher, OK
RIP to the victims🕊️ you are not forgotten! This is one horrifyingly insane story. From unfathomable torture to incompetence. I’ve seen this case covered quite a few times. I know, this will be the best telling!!! Perhaps now, the Freeman family and lil Ms. Bible can truly and finally, rest in peace. 💐💚💐💚
all I can say, those girls were loved, their parents and mothers are amazing women, if I was a victim and still alive knowing that someone cared and searched so far and wide for , I would know I was loved. Thanks for being that amazing, well done, and sorry for your loss
This is truly a parent's worst nightmare. Worse even then a child being dead, because you never know for sure what's happened to them. If they're dead or alive, if they're being hurt, what's happening to them. I don't know if I'd be strong enough to keep living. It seems like the worst possible torment.
Truly despicable. These 3 men, the Sheriff's department and the agent
I am absolutely horrified at the complete lack of competency of the sheriff's and that Nutter man. Absolutely disgusting. It's staggering how they handled ecery single thing in this case. Those poor girls could of possibly been found if they had done a proper investigation and followed every lead. Hearing that Nutter was annoyed with it being released to press and calls started coming in is unfathomable. My heart truly hurts for all family and friends left to navigate through their lives after losing those 2 girls.
How do experts miss a body??? Unbelievable how poorly the whole thing was handled!! The family did a better investigative job than the police!
Fantastic cover of this story! Oh....those poor girls, what awful disgusting men.
The cops were pitiful and arrogant. If they had instantly checked out the things the family found in the debris, or heaven forbid, found it themselves, the girls might have been found alive. 💙
Or if the “experts” just did there job in the first place so the police would look at the evidence
Like how the hell do you miss a whole body, first and foremost?!
Cops were involved
The fact that they could have been found alive, but weren’t, because of a grudge, ego, and $hitty “police work”….really pisses me off. You have to be a huge POS to not do your job to the best of your ability, especially when missing children are involved. “Sorry we could have found your children alive, but since we didn’t follow up on the lead you placed in our hands, we didn’t.” May there be no rest for the wicked!!
I work with theses types of ppl every day !
They didn't investigate because they were likely in on it.
yoooo, this mama bear going to the top of the drug ring is fearless. she's a fantastic role model, and i can guarantee her daughter loved her fiercely
Those poor girls. It must have been terrifying for them being kidnapped by those evil men. I hope they are eventually found for the sake of their families.
Even if the girls were suspects.... they would of been wanted for murder. Nuttter seemed like he never wanted to look for them regardless of suspects or missing victims. That's ridiculous.
Shame on that whole investigating team for ignoring those family members and flat out treating them like garbage!!! They could have saved those girls had that family been taken seriously!!! For them to have “missed” the body of that husband/father inside the home is 100% proof that they were negligent from the start! 😢
“If they start shooting at me, then I must be close!” I have been in the place that I would quite literally die if it meant that I could have answers. If I could finally know and get closure. I completely understand this line of thinking and I wish the absolute best for these people
After watching the video all the way through, it’s pretty obvious that the Sheriff’s Department knew who did it or at least thought that they knew and that OSBI was covering up for them. The sheriff’s department was after the family and didn’t want to be sued. The sheriff and his deputies probably thought that the killers did their dirty work for them. A new sheriff and a new OSBI agent solved the case quickly.
11:30. I don't know of a Mom who was as determined as the one in this. That made me feel something warm, as the magnitude and ferocity of her will to find her daughter. God Bless That Family
Wow! The I don’t give a 💩 is strong in this “detective”!
To think if they had of done their jobs right these girls may have been found alive or at least recovered for a proper burial. 😢
Such a brave beautiful mama & family
I remember this story, but never heard what happened to the girls. Thank you for sharing. It's horrible their case was ignored until a new Sheriff came along. I think psychics should help give them a proper resting place. ♥
How could the judge in good conscious release such a heinous and evil individual? He didnr even serve half of his sentence and the girls were never found! What is going on here?
I know it might sound wrong, because of the subject matter, but I absolutely love these unseen videos so much. They’re so well done
Literally! It’s one of the very few channels ive post notifications turned on for, they’re so well researched and structured so whoever’s doing the work going into these case reviews is nailing it, 10x more accurate than traditional/mainstream media👏
Well that's what they're made for, entertainment, to be enjoyed.
I can't imagine how anyone could be this wicked . So sorry for them and their families .
Have you heard of the Brian Varela/Alyssa Noceda case? It was in Everett Washington.
He SA'd her while she was overdosing, took pics and videos, sent it to his group chat with his friends making jokes and bragging about it. He got *_LESS THAN 3 YEARS._*
Its not a very well known case since its local.
that’s terrible but unseen should cover it
Did she die?
@@tylerskiss yes. She died. He left her there in his room after SAing her and sending the pics and videos of her. He went to work while she died slowly.
yeah i think she od’d while he was rping her
I actually used to live in Everett. I think I remember this case.
This whole case is a travesty. I hope the girls and the mom and dad rest well.
I can't believe the total incompetence the police showed in the years until the new sheriff came. It is so frustrating and infuriating. I hope the families know they did everything possible for justice. It failed them, they didn't fail the girls
Those girls were my own daughter's age. If one of mine were done this way, that Busick bastard would be getting a visit that he would not enjoy. What could they do to a grieving father that 20 years of hell hadn't already done to him? God bless the families of these two young ladies.
Why was that officer not arrested for not doing his job and most likely working with drug dealers.This case would have been solved and most likely the girls would have been found if the police followed up on the insurance card.This whole case stinks of a massive cover up.My prayers are with girls family's and friends.
The Sheriff dept should be ashamed of themselves, its seems they just couldn't be bothered. Just deplorable.
That plea deal was a travesty of justice. That the judge enforced the deal even after the bodies were not found was the final insult.
When will shitty detectives, & judges ever be held accountable for neglect in these cases ?! They put in such little effort in Some of these cases that any normal person with no training in law enforcement or anything can even figure it out … It’s baffling.
Authorities failing left and right. Why would a judge give a proven murderer a break?? WTF
A bunch of trained liars being able to pass the test? Shocking...
It's sad and heartbreaking for both families especially Christmas is coming. May they find peace and forgiveness and give justice for Laura and Ashley.
38 months served is insane.
Shame on the judge.
The former investigators should be charged with something!!
The police and Steve Nutter deserve prison time too. Their negligence contributed to the girls deaths as they had 2 weeks where a decent investigation might have saved them.
I've been watching your videos and this one made me cry. It's the pain of not knowing. The people waiting for them are all courageous and strong. Wherever these 2 beautiful souls maybe, you are both strong and may you find peace.
They should have a law that states if the douchebag doesn’t lead the family to the bodies, as promised, then thee plea deal is off.
Good grief, what these poor families went through was more than anyone should have to endure. What an arrogant, self righteous ppprly skilled Nutter, Nutter was. And having a psychopath play with you like a mouse in a trap is beyond. My heart aches for them all. So, so sad. I hope they find some peace. That's a terrible way to spend your life, chasing shadows.
Wondering why none of the comments make sense then realised no-one has actually watched the video yet 🤦🏻♀️
Brilliant 😂
All bots lol
@@greenalfoilhow do we know ur not a bot 😂
@@greenalfoilthat’s what a bot would say
Kudos to Lauria's parents for not being completely bitter about the fact that the Craig County sheriff's office did such a poor job of investigating this matter. I can't say that I would be as forgiving as they have been.
Litigation by the families would have resulted in her neighbors AND herself paying the "award".
I’ve watched hundred of True Crime videos. I started crying weeping at the end. Maybe cause I have a daughter and her names is Laura.
How brave is this mum?
Thanks!
That’s interesting… in my parents’ culture, dreaming of weddings mean that death will come. Such a sad story.
Nutter should be prosecuted for his negligence.
Why be an investigator if you aren’t interested in any leads, dismiss every idea from the families and the admit your annoyance of tips that are rolling in?? Clearly he has some times with people involved.
Furthermore, sentencing one of the only surviving suspects who plead guilty to being an accessory to her death (!!!) to only 10 years and the LETTING him walk free after only 36 months for “good behavior “ is beyond disgusting. I have zero faith in our judicial system. So deeply flawed and pathetic, quite honestly.
My heard breaks for this family and I pray they find the girls soon and give them a proper burial.
It is not fucking fair when people are able to live out their whole lives without having to pay for their crimes
We can only hope there’s some kind of divine justice…
God promises terrifying and agonizing judgement for trespassing His Law (10 commandments) after Judgement Day when every single person will be judged on the last day before the King of Kings.
This includes you and me and "little" transgressions like lying and stealing and pride.
Repent toward God and believe in Jesus Christ so that you can be forgiven for YOUR sin of breaking God's Law and be granted eternal life after death.
There is justice and it's terrible
@@TheAngieIshmaelI'm sure the rapists and murderers are quivering in their boots, and definitely not laughing at you.
@@TheAngieIshmaelif murders are sorry they go to heaven 😳
What happened to a loving God?
You do a beautiful job with these videos. you really put your heart into the victims. you are one of my favorite channels. thank you so much.
Those poor girls. What a horrible way to die. It's a shame that the law enforcement officers involved in the original investigation can't be sued for negligence
You can’t find a body in a house fire that the fire department didn’t allready find. At least not without some kind of corruption going on the fire department would have to choose not to find the body.
Why am i not surprised that the police department is shady. I had a acquaintance who came from OK & he said that the sherif's department set his home on fire & killed his parents. Then his sibling & him left town after that. Bc they wanted the families property & they would get it from him & his sibling dead or alive. I thought it was awful. You always think those Mid states are homey but i was informed differently by someone from them there
Very sad. These kind of stories leave me feeling emptier. May God give the families peace. And may the girls be at peace.