Sardonicast 65: Artemis Fowl, Incendies
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Gael was a fucking incredible addition to this episode. This will go down as one of the better pods imo.
nah mate. he sucks
@@jacobstanfill3107 why do you think that? I thought he was really interesting and brought a lot to the conversation.
Gael is great, and we needed to balance things out with another gay furry.
gael more like gay L-
His math was off, though. There's always been minimum two gay furries on every episode of Sardonicast since it began.
I can't believe you guys actually got Ralph Themoviemaker on this, world renowned film critic and closeted homosexual
*Ralphie from ruclips.net/user/Ralphthemoviemaker
@@johanliebert4622 no u
@@frankmerker630 *ralphie from ralphiethemoviemaker.com
Nice reference.
Well not to brag, but I saw him once when I was abroad. He was buying falafel from a Indian food cart.
We need Scott for the next podcast. This is my lock of the week.
With what the recommendation is next week has just going to point at every character and say is that the Asian guy from wish upon
no
Oh shit, was not expecting to see you here, what’s up?
YES!
Can Scoot replace Ralph?
Gael was such a good guest he even brought Ralph out of his usual shell. This was a really standout episode.
What shell? You mean the air vent?
Outside of the shell of his oxygen tank he takes while scuba diving while recording these podcasts
0:00 - Intro
4:14 - Artemis Fowl
20:00 - Incendies
1:05:31 - Q&A
1:05:48 - What is a classic movie that you genuinely hate?
1:11:05 - In the February 25, 2019 episode about Disney and Madagascar, Adam complains about Disney censoring their old, offensive content, and expresses his wish that they would make the original, uncut content available with a disclaimer ahead of it. Cut to one year later and Disney is doing exactly that on Disney Plus with much of their old content. And they are widely being crucified for it. I am curious to know what Adam's (and Alex and Ralph's) thoughts are on this development. Do you think that this may be a no-win situation for Disney?
1:15:18 - What are your thoughts on the Five Nights At Freddys franchise and the upcoming movie?
1:21:16 - In Hollywood high school films, there are all this types of characters, the jock, the hot blonde, etc. The teenagers also act very PG, is high school genuinely like this or is it another terrible attempt by a multibillionare company trying to relate to a teenager audience?
1:24:07 - If there were a movie about the life of Derek Savage in the vein of Tim Burton's Ed Wood, who would you cast as Daddy Derek?
Film recommendation: Riki-Oh: The Story of Ricky (1991)
That was fast
based
KENZI KAPTURE
they had early access
@@bw-xv2rz that's not what based means you redditor
You’re doing gods work, son.
Gael's story and contributions made this a uniquely incredible podcast. Thank you so much for bringing necessary context to the discussion!
How tf did u comment three days ago???
sky net Patreon
@@mkwke215 Occam's razor: they got access to the video before it was public. Use your brain.
@@FortoFight THEY MUST BE A TIME TRAVELER.
For a Derek Savage bio-pic, it should be Andy Serkis as him and Cool Cat, wearing a mocap suit for both roles.
I can't believe how hard I'm laughing at this oh my god
He'd throw a fit though. "Trying to impersonate someone's identity is a MAJOR NO NO!"
Eric Roberts could be a perfect Derek Savage.
Cool Cat would be CGI because he is a figment of Daddy Derek's imagination, who shows up every now and then to torture Derek.
Tbh I think PSH would be better as Uwe Boll (as long as he could do the accent)
Just wanted to extend a big thank you to Gael for sharing his story and the historical context within it, it really added another layer of appreciation to the experience of this film.
Man, my baby boi Gaël giving the real historical aspect for this just.. I really appreciate that.
Good dog best friend.
Imagine the long awkward silence between Ralph and Alex when Adam left to get Gael
The two-friend silence: when the third one has to duck out for a minute. 😶😶
Timestamps for people that want them:
0:00 - Intro
1:11 - Tenet delay and the Oscars
4:13 - Artemis Fowl
20:22 - Incendies
01:05:28 - Q&A
01:26:54 - Film Recommendation: Ricki-Oh: The Story of Ricky (1991)
1:11:48 Technically even the original Aladdin was changed because it was meant to be set in Iraq and Agrabah was actually Baghdad but because of the 1991 Gulf war they changed it.
So surprised you'd talk about Incendies of all movies. I read the play and watched the movie a couple years ago as part of my French course and I adored both. Gael is the best possible guest for this episode and I'm hopeful we can see him some more in the future.
They love the director so its not surprising at all
I hope Alex brings on his brother as a guest for one of these. Jar Boiz
I’d be in tears if they brought James on.
I love how Gael just says he likes the Mask and everyone ignores him
I think he said, "Good point".
This was probably the best episode of Sardonicast so far, absolutely loved it.
I did a research project/presentation on the Constitution of Lebanon (I had seen and loved Incendies before Uni) this year and Gael's insights were absolutely wonderful.
Seems like a great guy! Love to have him on more
I love this historical/cultural analysis paired along with this review. Who knew I would learn so much from a Lebanese Dalmatian.
Btw correction Incedies is Denis's fourth feature, he made August 32nd on Earth, Maelström, and Polytechnique before it. His first two movies was not that great and that's why there's a 9 years gap from Maelström and Polytechnique
Polytechnique is such a great movie.
I really want to see those 2, is there anywhere I can? I know they’re both oop
@@MrKstate21 well i don't think there's any physical copy of them but Maelström is easy to find in most torrent sites, but with August 32nd on Earth is a little bit more tricky because it's only on a specific site that is not typical torrent magnet site, call me a criminal but that's the only way to watch them
His 1st two are not bad but, as you said, there is a reason there are 9 years between his movies. Even Denis says you don't need to watch them lol. I would argue it wasnt until Incendies that he became the maysr he is today.
Shakespeare in Love is airtight proof that Oscars aren't the mark of a classic.
The oscars was never a mark of quality ever since it was started
Don’t forget about Crash too
That film is legitimately only remembered for wrongly winning best picture over Saving Private Ryan lmao
And Green Book. Shows you that Oscars need to have a more strict and experienced jury and a no “for your consideration campaign” rule.
More specifically it is purported that Harvey Weinstein basically strong-armed voters into voting Shakespeare in Love
So Gael is a gay, refugee, furry, triplet who can speak three languages. Why do you have such cool friends Adum
He's probably his boyfriend
I want to be a fury
Doesn't that describe the already existing cast of Sardonicast tho?
@@dixienormus2802 I am rage
@@dixienormus2802 Fury 4 + Bartres Refine, insane
I haven't found a single person who doesn't like Incendies. It's really good stuff from one of my favorite directors.
Amazing podcast. Incendies is one of my favourite films so these extra layers of context are really cool!! Definitely going to have to give this another listen to consolidate this knowledge
For the longest time I thought Scoot was the roommate. I feel enlightened
They could be polycohabitationists
For the past few months theyve mentioned repeatedly that scoot has to connect over skype/discord/etc to commentate on games
If we're having a Gael Sardonicast, I'd like to request a Scoot Sardonicast for some day in the future as well
Scoot will begin the critical re-evaluation of Cats 2019
Incendies is the first movie I watched specifically for Sardonicast. Probably the best decision I've ever made. Gael increased my experience of the movie tenfold.
every other episode, they talk about stepbrothers and how it has a cult following. so they should recommend stepbrothers next episode. cmon just do it
I'm surprise they didn't mention Joaquin Phoenix and Marion Cotillard love the film
@@1997residente its hilarious
Put it in the history books, ladies and gentlemen. Sardonicast had a serious discussion about the greatest franchise ever: Five Nights at Freddy's
Hey you guys should do a discussion on Michael Mann's movies, especially The Insider, since its one of his most underrated movies and some of the best acting by Al Pacino and Russell Crowe.
NeverSaySandwich1 that would be awesome
Check out the Rewatchables podcast. They go in depth on movies like Heat and the Insider.
Great choice. And I don’t think they’re too familiar with Mann’s work so it’s be interesting to see.
The funny thing is that the symbol on Gravity Falls was actually pretty important to the show's plot
And an amazing villain
I didn't even know Incendies was mostly based on a true story. This podcast was really insightful. 🙏
Oh shit! That was my AC fanart at the beggining!
Looks awesome👍
@@theboss297 Thank you!
Truly magnificent
What a great episode. Gael brought so much to this. Really should have him back again in the future
This is probably the most interesting Sardonicast episode yet.
Thanks for answering my question love you guys
Alien: Isolation was a quite decent horror game. Very janky but the atmosphere is amazing. Very faithful to the original film.
Just watched Incendies. Absolutely stunned by the ending. Thanks for recommendation. And hearing Gael's perspective was very interesting.
As a muslim middleeastern I'm happy that for one fucking minute we're not portrayed the ultimate bad guys in foreign movies.
The FNaF movie is being directed by Chris Columbus (incidentally, director of Night at the Museum) and co-written by Scott Cawthon and Jason Blum.
Scott himself went through multiple scripts that Jason himself approved, but he kept having to throw out scripts because he had better ideas and felt he hadn't put enough effort into it. I think it'll at least be decent.
Also these games are actually being picked up by professional high-budget developers, they're actually taking one or two years to make now.
I am somewhat more interested in the FNaF film knowing that Scott Cawthon himself is working on it.
Despite how basic and very shallow the plot was in the first game, plus the very simple gameplay, I still think Scott Cawthon caught lightning in a bottle with his franchise. I can respect the hustle.
I dunno, I see the name Jason Blum attached and I can easily see it strive for a low-hanging fruit appeal
I mean, Blumhouse films are either entertainingly bad or it's a completely different beast, like fucking Whiplash. Like, if you didn't know anything about it and you just saw the production company, would you bother with Whiplash?
Of course a man like Jason Blum is going to be a shark in the water. Just yet another producer who wants money.
A troubled development usually means a troubled final product.
@@ajzeg01 Not necessarily. If it was a case of directors or any type of crew leaving and everyone else having to piece the movie back together (ex. Justice League with the hire of Joss Whedon, or Wonder Park, which literally had no replacement for a director), then yeah, usually. Or if it was a case of studio meddling or dissagreements with higher-ups or executive producers, that would also be the case most likely.
This is a bit different. Scott Cawthon himself (in an interview with Dawko a couple years ago) described his work ethic for the movie while reflecting on some of his earlier games, saying:
*"If I was treating the movie as I was treating my game series at the time I made FNaF World, we would be three movies into the FNaF movies, and they would probably be terrible, y'know? If I had the mindset that 'Oh hey, it's Five Nights at Freddy's! People will love it!', y'know, regardless of quality, then we would already have several movies, and they would all be terrible."*
So it sounds like it's more a case of Scott redoing and redoing it all over until he finally gets it right, rather than studio interference or messy re-hirings. Some of my favorite seasons of Doctor Who have taken over 18 months to write and produce. I see this as a good thing, personally.
Bob Odenkirk as Daddy Derek
Wow Gael is pretty awesome. A lot of great input and clearly just a very inteligent person in general.
Artemis fowl was the villain in the original
Really outstanding episode; Gael is fantastic as usual.
Fun fact: the straight to DVD Banana Splits movie is supposedly a scrapped script for the FNAF movie
Jesus christ.
I'm pretty sure that's just a complete assumption
bastard asshole the FNAF movie was originally going to be produced by Warner Bros, but the creator Scott Cawthorn left due to creative differences and is now working with Blumhouse. It’s an assumption, but I think it’s a safe assumption, that WB still had some early draft of the FNAF script that they decided to repurpose for the Banana Splits, since that movie is also about evil animatronics going on a murder spree.
Riki-oh is NUTS.
Can't wait for the next episode now.
Wtf i dont know you watch the sards dude, fucking unreal
It's weird how in the UK you get much more realistic portrayal of school on TV, like Inbetweeners for example.
100% agree really surprised Alex didn't bring it up
@@theboss297 I was too
Was Skins realistic? I liked the first season but it started getting more and more hamfisted and over-the-top..
@@Alberich_Prince_of_Dwarves for me the first season is actually pretty realistic but yeah it gets more melodramatic as it goes along
@@Alberich_Prince_of_Dwarves Skins is how the majority of kids wished their teenage years were like, Inbetweeners was what it was actually like.
Honestly would love Gael as a regular or semi regular this was so much fun.
It's a shame Timmy Failure, a good, unique kids movie, was dumped on Disney+ along crap like Artemis Fowl
Wait they made a movie about him?? I remember the books were really good
@@oliviaz.3309 Yeah. Its on Disney+. I think it's pretty good
Richard Jenkins carries Step Brothers. He is easily the best part about it.
Ralph's laugh makes me so happy for some reason
I hope IHE resumes TSFTW One day..
or TQFTB
Or anything really
He still does them for sure
Thank god Gael the critic was here to finally put you 3 normies in your place
American Vandal is one of the more accurate representations of high school that I've seen in recent years. I can't think of a single character in that show that didn't remind me of someone that I went to school with.
Yeah the Sardonicast bois are bbbbbbbbaaaaaaaaccccccckkkkkk. Always puts a smile on my face when they pop up. Just love listening to these guys just banter away. Thank You.
Hearing someone pronounce Arabic names/words right felt so gratifying
I just watched this episode, and I love that Gael was a guest on this ep.
We love Gael.
I would say that Artemis Fowl is more of a tween book, but with adult elements.
That’s the definition of YA.
@@ajzeg01 Oh, I thought that was more late teens, like 16-19 yro.
Excellent episode guys! The added background and insight through your friend was a great and deeply appreciated bonus. Thank you!
Neil Breen is the only one with the chops to play Daddy Savage.
Gaël really doing us Lebanese proud! Hilarious and insightful addition to the podcast, hope to see more of him in the future!
WAIT, DID YOU REALLY CHOOSE THE STORY OF RICKY?! That is going to be a really interesting episode.
Wow alex is out numbered 1 to 3 gays with this one
ralph is gay?
yes.
@@fabijanskrobar1750 He’s a world renown film critic and closeted homosexual
Damn Gael was a super cool guest for this one
Holy fuck I'm so ready for the Ricki - Oh episode in a couple weeks. Great pod, Gael was a fantastic guest.
Love this play/movie. Really enjoyed the special guest too.
These guys forgot one of the movies Denis Villeneuve directed.
Enemy
A good psychological mystery and a great Jake Gyllenhaal performance. Not a movie about spiders invading earth
Love the Charles Cornell shout-out
Danny Devito as Derek Savage
Keith David voicing Cool Cat
So glad Gael got to be a guest!
Curious to know what Adam thinks of the show, The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, since he’s hated the more recent Will Smith stuff like Suicide Squad & Aladdin.
For a guy who’s introduced me to many international and small indie movies it’s crazy how small Adams reference pool is.
Like he’s seen so many movies but whenever ppl ask him who would be good for this role he goes: “Joaquin Phoenix, Tilda Swinton, or Daniel-Day Lewis”
Why not go a bit outside of the box? Why is no one saying like Andy Garcia or something?
Cause they're great lol
I think he’s seen a lot of recent movies. Meaning from the early 2000s on. He doesn’t seem to have seen a lot of movies before that.
Adam is just a guy with opinions and like to recommend the essential of contemporary cinema
While the jumpscare gimmick is stupid in the games, I will say that the original Five Night's at Freddy's game had a pretty decent atmosphere at first. The first few minutes of clicking around the building with good headphones in a dark room was pretty creepy to me honestly. I thought the ambient parts were done quite well, but after the first night it wore off. I stopped hearing about the lore for a while, and every once in a while I'll hear more of the story and I bust out laughing. It's like the Ben-Hur of children's horror and I kinda love it for how terrible it is.
I agree that the lore is absolutely a mess right now (Scott Cawthon himself has been applauding memes of it), but I definitely think the games have evolved to be much more than just jumpscares. First few games are basically just jumpscares, but thinks get legitimately creepy around SL and onwards
@Anshul Kaushik Yea, pretty bad comparison on my part. I didn't really mean the quality, I meant something really long.
While watching Incendies I had to take a smoke break to process what I had just seen after the bus scene, not exactly because of the violence portrayed, but merely because of the shot with the rifles decorated with pictures of saint Mary. My mother is a vehement catholic and she had this sort of altar in a shelf, right above the TV set where I watched the movie, with a lot of figurines and similar pictures of saint Mary, in a way that made the moment rather stark in the iconographic proximity. Of course mom never had any type of affiliation to any sort of guerrilla group, but right then I felt the movie seeped just a little bit into my home.
The way Gael had a close connection with Incendies is how I was with Florida Project. Not that I grew up exactly like the protagonist in that movie, but the accurate setting and display of poverty actually gave me Nostalgia of childhood summers in a weird way. Was pretty cool to see a movie that accurately displays the unseen side of where you grew up be so critically acclaimed.
Older writers trying to recreate 2010s high school is like me trying to depict 1970s high school: no one has a fucking clue.
Adam you should try having Vaush on as a guest sometime. You'd probably be able to have some interesting conversations about movies like The Fool (2014), Look Who's Back (2015) or I, Daniel Blake (2016).
mentioning Henry Winkler and failing to associate him with "The Fonz" is one of the most painful things I have ever had to sit through
I'm don't think I've ever felt older...
i love gael so fucking much can you guys have him on every week
I'm sorry but what the hell was the movie Alex was talking about at 11:17 when Adum talks over him? 😂
HAVE GAEL ON MORE!
sardonicast flexing diversity by inviting humans, jedis, aliens, quintons, and dogs alike.
edit: i forgot quinton lol
Melons as well
Also an African-Puerto Rican grandma
Don't forget it already has a horse, meatball and thick floating eyebrows
@@Casin01 You could've just said an Italian lmao
Don’t forget Dunkeys
Great episode!
Fun fact about incendies original stage play, the son in the play during his sniper day is a jokester who sings the logical song from supertramp out loud because there is a different plot point for the reveal
1:23:20 The Inbetweeners (UK) is by far the most accurate depiction of teenage school (and generally teenagers - at least in the UK and Ireland)
Totally thinking the same thing. Super jealous that students were always banging the hot teachers, wish I had that much Gusto.
I'm high, and that intro was epic!
I used to work with a group of Lebanese refugees here in Texas. Strangely enough they were all metal heads, and since I’m like 20 years younger then all of them, I showed them a bunch of new metal from my generation. Lamb Of God was by far their favorite of all the stuff I showed them. They were more in to Sepultura, Slayer, and Napalm Death kinda older metal stuff.
It was a strange kind of cultural exchange. They were all super devout Muslims (relative to American Christians that is), they did the thing where they wash their arms and neck before they pray and would all go in to the office to pray together.
One of them was from Sudan, the older guy working there, and me and him (his name is Mortada) became pretty good friends. His wife would make me food every day for work and Mortada would bring it in and we would sit and eat his weird ass spinach goo and lamb and rice.
Mortada was like 55 when we met and he lived in Sudan until his 30s, I think there was a war when he was a young adult is he left the country. And I’ll tell you what, Mortada carrier some strange ass customs and ideas from Sudan. Firstly, he didn’t know what a condom was, so I had to essentially give this old man _the talk_ about how in America people have sex with rubber on their cocks. Mortada was perplexed, he thought of the purpose of sex as ejacing in a lady’s hole so he thought it was very strange to purposefully NOT do that. I had 2 gay roommates at the time, and Mortada said in his country a gay person would in essence be imprisoned by their family, not allowed to leave the house for fear of being arrested for being gay.
Mortada was also kind of... sorta.... a pedophile. In his country and culture, a girl was suitable for marriage/sex when she had her first period, which could be like age 9 for some girls. So I had to let him know that if he expressed this idea, that it’s cool to fuck children, that people would beat the piss out of him and throw him in jail. Back when I worked with Mortada I was taking a lot of Vicodin, and my dealer would meet me up at work and sell me shit. So Mortada asked me what I was doing and I told him I bought some pills, he asked what kind and I explained what an opiate is, how it comes from the poppy plant. And this was some kind of revelation to Mortada, we worked at a high end health food store and so I got a bottle of poppy seeds to show him the flowers and this BLEW HIS MIND. He said that where he lived in Sudan, those flowers were LITERALLY EVERYWHERE. He said it was like grass in his town. In every yard. And I told him that if you cut the plant it drains sap that you can eat or smoke or drink if you have pain and it helps. And Mortada told me that “the elders told him the plant was poisonous” so no one ever messed with them.
Mortada also wiped his asshole with his hand, which I figured out over months because he always took a cup of water to the bathroom to wash his bung.
And probably the craziest shit he told me we thay when he was a teen; his family had guests over, a few older men from out of town, so when there are guests over the otherwise gender segregated home would all sleep in the women’s part of the house and he said that in Sudan, all homes have very tall kinda Adobe walls around them instead of fences. So one night, while everyone but his dad were asleep in the women’s side of the house a group of I think 3 men through a ladder over his perimeter walls and broke in to the house. These men broke in to the men’s side of the home, found his dad asleep, and shot him to death. The men then fled on foot; everyone ran outside to see what happened and they saw the backs of the men as they jumped back over the wall. The Sudanese equivalent of the police came out with a dog to smell search for the men, and this dog led the cops to 3 men sitting outside of a store playing checkers.
Mortada tells me this story and I say “okay so how longer are the men in jail, or do they get the death penalty?” And Mortada told me that according to islamic/Sudanese law, “if you didn’t see a mans face when he committed a crime then you cannot accuse a man of that crime, as you could be accidentally punishing an innocent person.” Or some dogshit like that. And so, Mortadas dad got murdered and they pretty much know who did it, but because they didn’t see the men’a faces when they did the crime; they walk free.
Some wild shit going on over in that part of the world. Reminds me how lucky I am to not have to deal with that kind of barbarism on a daily basis. Shit if anything, westerners make up problems to be offended by, and make mountains out of mole hills. And once in a while you’ll meet a person who faced *real problems in their life* and our first world dumb shit becomes instantly apparent in its absurdity and excess.
I live in a muslim country and I have to tell you that a lot of these rules and traditions are nowadays only reinforced in rural areas. Ofcourse it’s different from one country to another but overall things have changed a lot here over the past 20-30 years.
Ohhh, subverting expectations are we Adum?
I missed discussions about bad movies lol.
Y'all should review hamilton. Its technically a movie yo . I'd love to hear your thoughts on it
Yay you're talking about one of my favourite films!
Good morning everyone I'm sick and going to take my covid test. Yaah
Stay positive!
wait oh shi-
@@_trashmandan_2903 Hey!
@@_trashmandan_2903 Your positivity is infectious
Let's hope the test is aladeen
@@munjee2 😆 I had to to look that up funny though. That movie had such great potential but I think missed the mark.
Gael's character pic didn't get the Sardon-treatment, or Alex is good at drawing doggos.
I like hearing Gael on this, can he come over more often?
Artemis fowl is like the Anti-Jojo Rabbit: Main actors never acted in something in his life,but one did a great job and the other did an atrocious job.
Please put this show on spotify
0:07 That is an old meme. I love it.
Incendies is Villeneuve's fourth movie, not his second. People forget August 32nd On Earth, even though it's pretty good.
Also, fun fact: This movie was nominated for the foreign language film Oscar in the same year as Dogtooth and Biutiful, but they all lost to In A Better World. So in a year where Villeneuve, Lanthimos and Iñarrítu were all nominated for the same Oscar, they all lost to the director of Bird Box...
The mermaid movie was Splash with Tom Hanks. While I admire the contribution, camerawork, and direction of Citizen Kane, the movie never really engage me as much as other highly rated Hollywood classics as The Godfather, Vertigo, or City Lights.
You guys should watch Waltz with Bashir
I feel for this Vexel guy. Hope he’s blessed in life after facing such strife as a young child.