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As a kid with ADHD, I remember getting bored a lot. However, when I got bored, I would craft my own stories and entertain myself. I was in swimming, and I mostly was a distance swimmer. I improved my technique to be as effortless as possible so I could actually work on my stories while doing my laps. I honestly would work and rework scenes in my head while doing these, and no one could tell my attention was split. Additionally, when I started taking notes or doodling in high school as opposed to just sitting there, both my drawing and handwriting improved enormously. All to combat the boredom I felt in my day-to-day life. And it's not like I needed a lot to keep me entertained. I remember one time at 14, just sitting on a stump and watching nature for hours, or lying on the grass and watching the clouds. Despite my ADHD and not having a lot of free floating dopamine, boredom was never really my enemy. Being bored helped me improve my skills and my stories. It made my inner world richer. So the idea of something killing boredom just rubs me the wrong way, because boredom isn't something that should or can be killed. How are these people going to function if something should happen and they lose their connection to TikTok, or whatever form of quick and easy entertainment they have? There is nothing wrong with boredom, just like there's nothing wrong with sadness or fear. It's when things go too far that things become bad, and our minds have a very normal way to seek out a way to lower boredom. Also, because my ADHD and family history, thank you for the heads up about how addictive TikTok can be. I have an account, but I'm almost never on it, and the few accounts I follow tend to post longer form videos. I admittedly will scroll through RUclips shorts every now and again, which I'm sure is about as bad, but I try to limit it.
I have ADHD too! :D not sure what to add but I relate, when I'm bored I do creative things and if I was never bored idk what I would be doing with my life rn lol
I think tiktok is problematic in many ways especially art. So many people feel the need to attack and degrade other artists with unique art styles, but these same people have the most generic, ai looking art I have ever seen. It's what has kept me from posting my own art online because the community over there has become so toxic and I worry it will eventually spread to other social media platforms
@PerriVGaming I don’t think ig will get affected that much if they migrate over there since it’s already a dumpster fire, I just hope it doesn’t hit youtube
Saying other artists art looks like the “art”that was stolen from them doesn’t help the situation. It’s understandable but grouping artists with ai is disrespectful
Art tok is actually the worst thing I've ever stepped into there's always drama left and right for the most stupid thing,most always make a vid asking the viewers stupid questions like"what's the worst artstyle" and to make things even worse they always have an obsession with pinning false accusations to artist for problematic when they're not,i had to delete tiktok because of them,i can't believe i'm saying this but they're even worse than art twitter😭
This is why algorithm and greed need more regulations. Where do we draw the lines? Business by nature will look for profit and retention. We need to delete the roots to prevent more people for happening.
Another thing I've noticed about the need for instant gratification on the consumer side is that it also creates a need for instant gratification on the creator side. People who don't immediately get likes and shares end up feeling disheartened about the creative process, and it makes me sad to think how many wonderful artists end up abandoning art because they thought nobody liked their craft.
I'd genuinely argue that the future of art is very much intertwined with the future of humanity/society as a whole. Art, for many people, is a genuinely important form of release and expression. When that freedom of expression is threatened in any regard, it can have some seriously negative ramifications on society as a whole. I hope any future artists or new artists growing up in this ever-changing and fast-paced TikTok era don't become discouraged from pursuing art or any kind of art form that falls under the umbrella. It is so important to become aware of how much time is spent scrolling versus spending that time on other creative endeavors.
Tbh its not only a phenomena on tiktok. I've watched my attention span shortening a lot after starting to watch RUclips shorts. I'm gonna try to watch them less in the future and work on myself because if my brain can change from consuming too much short content, it can change by stopping myself from consuming it too much.
One of my thoughts is that autoplay is a bad thing, in that it prevents a more thoughtful engagement, not as defined by the algorithm, but personal thinking on the subject matter, at least when it comes to such rapid fire content such as on TikTok or YT shorts. I don't think very short form content is bad, you just have to spend a bit of time thinking and reflecting on it, rather than just having a response that's akin to like/dislike
Brainrot is a very powerful force. What you described here is the tip of a mountain sized iceberg. Anyone who reads this, take caution when exploring the sites infested
So happy that i never ever installed tiktok in the first place Because i thought the content they made is cringe and i hated the video format, it felt annoying to me I always sticked to youtube, i also don't watch youtube shorts I do watch memes but not all the time
11:15 holy shit dude. That is JARRING I am so glad that when TikTok became popular in 2019/2020 I avoided it , I don't wanna know how I'd would have end up like 😭 I'm so glad to have my attention span normal
Scrolling on some kind of short form platform (tiktok, shorts, reels, ect), though it gives you dopamine quickly, is unfulfilling. I'm not going to act like this person who's never fallen to scrolling on my phone for a long time, believe me, I have, and I hate it. Personally I always feel more fulfilled when I finish a drawing and share it with my friends than when scrolling through social media a lot. The social media dopamine rush is nice I agree, but it doesn't last very long. Even though I sometimes struggle to find the motivation to draw, finishing an artwork feels so much better. As for the boredom segment of the video, Tiktok didn't cure boredom. In fact, it might've made it worse since a lot of people now find activities that take longer and more effort boring, making things they used to enjoy feel like a chore
@_nd_go sharing with friends especially! In fact, the reason I even have a youtube and pinterest is because I love sharing my art online, especially seeing the progress I've been making and interacting with other artists or fans!! It makes me happy to feel appreciated and like I have some kind of value and to feel loved especially since I have been in a darker place lately. Even though I do consider my art pretty mediocre in comparison to others, it's super fulfilling to orient my hyperfixations towards art or just draw an oc for fun and share it with my friends and that's what drove me to make drawing such an important aspect of who I am.
Tiktok has its ups and downs, I find myself in the light where I get inspired by the art that people make on there. Heck even a silly AI filter where it makes you look like a character from Arcane sparked an idea in my head. I created an art piece of myself in Arcane style, posted the template but instead of the AI showing the picture it was my art that I drew instead and then the speedpaint played after to show how the piece was made. In that regard I was happy I was able to catch the trend there and make something else out of it
I don't even have tiktok, specifically because i know I'll use it too much, but I'm still having the same struggles i think in large part bc of youtubes shorts and instagrams reels that use tiktok clips and just the general format of tiktok to try to copy it.
11:50 That's terrifying! Thanks for linking your sources, this is something I'm really interested in for myself and my future kids. I've been super burnt out with holiday prep and gatherings, I find myself on the phone a lot. I'm so grateful to have time off now to recover and do some art; it feels way better to be playing with my copics and colored pencils (while listening to a good video!) than to be looking at a phone screen in any capacity.
I'm really glad more people are talking about this. I will say though I'll be harsh and say no amount of Tik Tok is good for you. That's like saying there are some people who smoke responsibly by smoking in moderation while still eating healthy and exercising, so it's ok to be a smoker if it works for you. No, no amount of cigarettes is fine, in the same way not Tik Tok style social media is fine in moderation. We're going to look back this in horror in the same way we look back at horror at people thought smoking was no big deal and it was normalized because everyone was doing it.
While I wouldn't say that Tik Tok is good for you, I would like to say there is such a thing as drinking in moderation or eating sweets in moderation. Neither of these things are good for you, but at the heart of any addiction is that we use it as a coping mechanism as another youtuber the book leo said in a similar video about this topic is that we use social media as a coping mechanism and once we realize this we can stop using tic tok as an addict. This also plays into a sisphys55 video about the myth of sisyphs where he asks have we learned helplessness or have we just forgotten our own autonomy. Are we addicted to social media or have we told ourselves that we are to far gone to learn patience or exhibit self control?
@@Eliot_Draws You raise some valid points, but to counter your examples. With both drinking and sweets those are government regulated with warnings so that people are warned about the dangers and risks it poses. I was recently diagnosed with being pre-diabetic and THANK GOD the government passed regulation only a few years ago mandating all companies be transparent with the added sugars on the nutrition labels. Because I thought I was eating healthy and in moderation all this time, but that was a lie hidden by food companies. And things like drinking is age restricted as alcohol permanently damages younger brains and children physiologically are more vulnerable to being addicted and are unable to make informed decisions like an mature adult brain. You can fact check me on that, people under 18 do not have the brain maturity to exercise self-control. Now if people are given all the information about the dangers of social media, then of course they are free to consume and do whatever they want, and your point would be valid. BUT all of the points Celestia and many others have been raising are not known to most users. Regulation has been very slow to come as well as scientific peer-reviewed studies as evidence. Especially children; if you read first hand account from teachers online they are saying the ipad kid generation are way worst in attention and learning than any other generation they have taught. You need to understand companies take advantage of people's addiction for profit and do their best to hide the negative effects including trying to put out their own funded studies telling the public it's not so bad (Like with cigarettes and asbestos). It's not learned helplessness imo, it's sinister capitalism driven manipulation.
Tantacrul made a video going over the history of Facebook. And one line he said that I can’t stop thinking about was “Is social media a net positive for humanity?” And the more I think about it… I don’t think it is. All of the big ones (Twitter/Facebook/TikTok) have strayed so far from what they set out to be that we would all be better off if they didn’t exist anymore. As a comp sci major, I feel isolated when I see how exited my peers and professors are about new technology, because I’m just reminded of the harm that it’s causing.
This is exactly how ive been feeling about instant gratification and the future of art, amazingly put. Also looooove the adorable christmas art!!!! The colors are super pretty!
going into arttok is like willingly moving into a warzone (my only actual experience with tiktok was when i was 9 and i deleted it after like 6 minutes of installation because i couldn't scroll up) BTW When you explained how tiktok addiction develops, it reminded me of dodo birds and how their move to Mauritius with its lack of predators eliminated their fight-or-flight response, which was how they went extinct so fast when the dutch colonies went there. Yeah, not a good look.
Hugely appreciate the sources and the fact that you mention other contributing factors here. Will say I think some of the sources might be dubious here; the first one has links to various other "sources" that don't make sense, like the sentence "TikTok’s never-ending stream of 24-31-second videos reduces users’ attention spans compared to other social media networks. Also, teens spend almost eight hours daily on TikTok, more than on different media." linking to a guide on optimizing your TikTok content by an "AI video editor" app that does not mention this timeframe at all.
i don't know if i have a different perception of boredom, but a lot of the tasks you described as being boring seem more like those kind of "doing nothing" tasks to me, which i actually think are quite rewarding, because it keeps my brain active, even if i'm not actually doing much physically. personally, i see boredom as more like "i want to do something that i'm not currently doing because what i'm doing now feels pointless, but i can't do something different/i don't know what else to do" and ironically i think the way algorithms are changing are making me feel *more* bored, to the point where i struggle to be creative just because i'm *too* bored to want to do anything, like my brain is too focused on the fact that i feel bored that i can't come up with ideas on how to stop myself from feeling bored, if that makes sense. i cant say anything about tiktok specifically because it's not something i use, but it feels like this issue is at least in part caused by how the algorithms are constantly fighting to get and keep your attention on their app/site, even through directly wasting your time (like showing you stuff you aren't interested in or have already seen), which ends up making using them feel pointless and boring, and i think that ends up making it harder to create
I've been stuck at home for ages (because of a bunch of unfortunate happenings) and I've talked about when I'm able to work I want a boring job and my familys flabbergasted. I have the best time doing boring things at boring times, being stuck at home and having all this entertainment and time available has been slowly harming both my art and mental health I have nowhere to find boredom because I'm constantly here, where entertainment exist, I miss being able to be at school and die of boredom and mild stress and I miss all the job training day things we did it was so boring and I had such good ideas, now I just have jumbled ideas and no substance or direction because I don't have the time to think and I can't mentally separate myself from home mode.. Luckily my grandma sometimes picks me up and go to her house to do other stuff but it's not really as good as getting properly and utterly bored doing something that I don't care about
haaa honestly quite a few symptoms from this are kind of similar to my experiences with adhd. a lot of the worst symptoms of adhd are caused from a baseline dopamine deficiency (adhd is alot more then that your brain structure is significantly different in general but the low dopamine creates the most issues) resulting in you having to seek it out externally for quick hits to just feel normal or motivated to do thing's.
Damn who would have guessed that targeting the youngest, most impressionable and erratic folks (bc of their age thus immaturity), with an app like TikTok would get us here huh. This is why I'm really strong on my conviction that no one under 16 years should have access to social medias in general. And it feels "good" seeing a lot of scientific papers and studies confirming my thoughts on the matter.
As someone with, kinda a cocktail of mental health problems. I don't really like getting bored, because that tends to lead to intrusive/just bad thoughts. So I pretty much always have RUclips on, while I do something else (heck, while watching most of this video, I was playing Pokémon Picross, on my 3DS But, I do have moments during my weeks/days. Where I'm either not listening to anything, or just watching RUclips, and letting my mind wander But also, I guess I have the opposite problem? Like, instead of constantly looking for short form content. I'm constantly looking for long form content I fall asleep to DYKG clip videos (on 1% volume). And I'll gladly listen to a multi hour video, about a show I watched as a tween But, that's simply because I like having background noise, while I do other stuff. Like reading or drawing. And I'm not blasting it, so my focus isn't 100% on the video. Instead, it's mostly on the other thing I'm doing
I'm of the firm belief that kids need to be bored. It's not just tiktok, but you see kids out with their parents and they're always on a phone or watching something on their ipad. Let the kids be bored, it's good for them and their mental development. It's good for adults to be bored. Boredom sucks, sure, but as you said, the results of it are good.
I must be super weird or just old. I have never even used tik tok, I actually can’t stand short videos hence why I never used it. My preferred length is like an hour but the shortest I am ok with is like 20 minutes. For reference I am only 26 but maybe that’s old now, I also have adhd and autism and I think that’s why I can’t watch short videos since I hyper focus on one thing at a time and to many different videos at once I get anxiety. In a way I have the opposite of this haha. As an artist I learn the best by watching how each artist draws and you can’t learn how they do in less than a minute, because of this and ai I am glad I stayed away from social media. I decided to shared this in case there are others like me haha.
My sister has brainrot. She can't focus on almost anything, she skips videos that are too long for her (usually 30 seconds or more is a lot for her), she can't even hear a complete song. She's going to decide if she wants to go to a university or go to work and every time I try to talk to her about that, she thinks I'm just joking. I'm not
i have tiktok but it's more like a hot stove in the corner of my phone and i only remember why it's a bad idea to touch it for a few months. every time i forget it's a coin flip on if it'll be like crack for 10 hours or if i'll be weighing methods of kms after half an hour
I don't use TikTok, but I removed RUclips from my phone because I realized that YT Shorts were doing something similar to me. Sometimes, it's painful not being able to just bring up a video when I'm doing something else, but I'm trying to condition myself out of it as best as I can.
I do not use TikTok at all, not because I dislike it, but because I never found the need to. And I wonder if I am missing out? I do have an account but it just sits there. So, should I?
This is funny. I think I can see why TikTok was annoying for me. I want longvideos(aka background noise) when I'm on RUclips. I create a playlist to play while I draw/write/craft. I don't want to have to stop what I'm doing to get to the next video. So when I make playlist I look for long videos 30min+. 1 hour long is best. I consider 10 min videos SHORT. Lol 30 secs is way too short for me.
i deleted tiktok recently i was clocking 24h a week on average i have deleted it and redownloaded it multiple times over the past year and i hope the ban follows through
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As a kid with ADHD, I remember getting bored a lot. However, when I got bored, I would craft my own stories and entertain myself.
I was in swimming, and I mostly was a distance swimmer. I improved my technique to be as effortless as possible so I could actually work on my stories while doing my laps. I honestly would work and rework scenes in my head while doing these, and no one could tell my attention was split.
Additionally, when I started taking notes or doodling in high school as opposed to just sitting there, both my drawing and handwriting improved enormously. All to combat the boredom I felt in my day-to-day life. And it's not like I needed a lot to keep me entertained. I remember one time at 14, just sitting on a stump and watching nature for hours, or lying on the grass and watching the clouds.
Despite my ADHD and not having a lot of free floating dopamine, boredom was never really my enemy. Being bored helped me improve my skills and my stories. It made my inner world richer.
So the idea of something killing boredom just rubs me the wrong way, because boredom isn't something that should or can be killed. How are these people going to function if something should happen and they lose their connection to TikTok, or whatever form of quick and easy entertainment they have? There is nothing wrong with boredom, just like there's nothing wrong with sadness or fear. It's when things go too far that things become bad, and our minds have a very normal way to seek out a way to lower boredom.
Also, because my ADHD and family history, thank you for the heads up about how addictive TikTok can be. I have an account, but I'm almost never on it, and the few accounts I follow tend to post longer form videos. I admittedly will scroll through RUclips shorts every now and again, which I'm sure is about as bad, but I try to limit it.
I have ADHD too! :D not sure what to add but I relate, when I'm bored I do creative things and if I was never bored idk what I would be doing with my life rn lol
I think tiktok is problematic in many ways especially art. So many people feel the need to attack and degrade other artists with unique art styles, but these same people have the most generic, ai looking art I have ever seen. It's what has kept me from posting my own art online because the community over there has become so toxic and I worry it will eventually spread to other social media platforms
True. And with TikTok about to be banned in the US….all of that will either migrate to YT shorts or IG Reels…
@PerriVGaming I don’t think ig will get affected that much if they migrate over there since it’s already a dumpster fire, I just hope it doesn’t hit youtube
Personally I'm gonna try stick to cara and youtube, stuff like that cos instagram has been rly shady lately :(
Including Deviantart
Saying other artists art looks like the “art”that was stolen from them doesn’t help the situation. It’s understandable but grouping artists with ai is disrespectful
Art tok is actually the worst thing I've ever stepped into there's always drama left and right for the most stupid thing,most always make a vid asking the viewers stupid questions like"what's the worst artstyle" and to make things even worse they always have an obsession with pinning false accusations to artist for problematic when they're not,i had to delete tiktok because of them,i can't believe i'm saying this but they're even worse than art twitter😭
something has to TRY to be worse than twitter, the fact you are able to say this says a LOT about where Art Tiktok had gone
@dragonslayeralex3316 that's just scratching the surface,there's more worse things in there lmao
@@Cable_bun yeahhhhhhh
This is why algorithm and greed need more regulations. Where do we draw the lines? Business by nature will look for profit and retention. We need to delete the roots to prevent more people for happening.
Another thing I've noticed about the need for instant gratification on the consumer side is that it also creates a need for instant gratification on the creator side. People who don't immediately get likes and shares end up feeling disheartened about the creative process, and it makes me sad to think how many wonderful artists end up abandoning art because they thought nobody liked their craft.
I'd genuinely argue that the future of art is very much intertwined with the future of humanity/society as a whole. Art, for many people, is a genuinely important form of release and expression. When that freedom of expression is threatened in any regard, it can have some seriously negative ramifications on society as a whole.
I hope any future artists or new artists growing up in this ever-changing and fast-paced TikTok era don't become discouraged from pursuing art or any kind of art form that falls under the umbrella. It is so important to become aware of how much time is spent scrolling versus spending that time on other creative endeavors.
Tbh its not only a phenomena on tiktok. I've watched my attention span shortening a lot after starting to watch RUclips shorts. I'm gonna try to watch them less in the future and work on myself because if my brain can change from consuming too much short content, it can change by stopping myself from consuming it too much.
One of my thoughts is that autoplay is a bad thing, in that it prevents a more thoughtful engagement, not as defined by the algorithm, but personal thinking on the subject matter, at least when it comes to such rapid fire content such as on TikTok or YT shorts. I don't think very short form content is bad, you just have to spend a bit of time thinking and reflecting on it, rather than just having a response that's akin to like/dislike
Brainrot is a very powerful force. What you described here is the tip of a mountain sized iceberg. Anyone who reads this, take caution when exploring the sites infested
Brainrot is destroying everything not Just art!!! Yay!!!
So happy that i never ever installed tiktok in the first place
Because i thought the content they made is cringe and i hated the video format, it felt annoying to me
I always sticked to youtube, i also don't watch youtube shorts
I do watch memes but not all the time
Same, I especially agree with you on the TikTok video format I hate it SO MUCH.
4:36 did she brake up with Square space
11:15 holy shit dude. That is JARRING
I am so glad that when TikTok became popular in 2019/2020 I avoided it , I don't wanna know how I'd would have end up like 😭 I'm so glad to have my attention span normal
Scrolling on some kind of short form platform (tiktok, shorts, reels, ect), though it gives you dopamine quickly, is unfulfilling.
I'm not going to act like this person who's never fallen to scrolling on my phone for a long time, believe me, I have, and I hate it. Personally I always feel more fulfilled when I finish a drawing and share it with my friends than when scrolling through social media a lot. The social media dopamine rush is nice I agree, but it doesn't last very long. Even though I sometimes struggle to find the motivation to draw, finishing an artwork feels so much better.
As for the boredom segment of the video, Tiktok didn't cure boredom. In fact, it might've made it worse since a lot of people now find activities that take longer and more effort boring, making things they used to enjoy feel like a chore
honestly so true, i recently got into art again and its been so fulfilling, especially sharing it with friends who also do art motivates me so much
@_nd_go sharing with friends especially! In fact, the reason I even have a youtube and pinterest is because I love sharing my art online, especially seeing the progress I've been making and interacting with other artists or fans!! It makes me happy to feel appreciated and like I have some kind of value and to feel loved especially since I have been in a darker place lately. Even though I do consider my art pretty mediocre in comparison to others, it's super fulfilling to orient my hyperfixations towards art or just draw an oc for fun and share it with my friends and that's what drove me to make drawing such an important aspect of who I am.
Tiktok isn't curing boredom, it's just a distraction from boredom. Noise to make you forget that you were and probably still are bored.
Tiktok has its ups and downs, I find myself in the light where I get inspired by the art that people make on there. Heck even a silly AI filter where it makes you look like a character from Arcane sparked an idea in my head. I created an art piece of myself in Arcane style, posted the template but instead of the AI showing the picture it was my art that I drew instead and then the speedpaint played after to show how the piece was made. In that regard I was happy I was able to catch the trend there and make something else out of it
I don't even have tiktok, specifically because i know I'll use it too much, but I'm still having the same struggles i think in large part bc of youtubes shorts and instagrams reels that use tiktok clips and just the general format of tiktok to try to copy it.
The gradient for the snow is so pretty❤✨
11:50 That's terrifying! Thanks for linking your sources, this is something I'm really interested in for myself and my future kids. I've been super burnt out with holiday prep and gatherings, I find myself on the phone a lot. I'm so grateful to have time off now to recover and do some art; it feels way better to be playing with my copics and colored pencils (while listening to a good video!) than to be looking at a phone screen in any capacity.
I'm really glad more people are talking about this. I will say though I'll be harsh and say no amount of Tik Tok is good for you. That's like saying there are some people who smoke responsibly by smoking in moderation while still eating healthy and exercising, so it's ok to be a smoker if it works for you. No, no amount of cigarettes is fine, in the same way not Tik Tok style social media is fine in moderation. We're going to look back this in horror in the same way we look back at horror at people thought smoking was no big deal and it was normalized because everyone was doing it.
While I wouldn't say that Tik Tok is good for you, I would like to say there is such a thing as drinking in moderation or eating sweets in moderation. Neither of these things are good for you, but at the heart of any addiction is that we use it as a coping mechanism as another youtuber the book leo said in a similar video about this topic is that we use social media as a coping mechanism and once we realize this we can stop using tic tok as an addict. This also plays into a sisphys55 video about the myth of sisyphs where he asks have we learned helplessness or have we just forgotten our own autonomy. Are we addicted to social media or have we told ourselves that we are to far gone to learn patience or exhibit self control?
@@Eliot_Draws You raise some valid points, but to counter your examples. With both drinking and sweets those are government regulated with warnings so that people are warned about the dangers and risks it poses. I was recently diagnosed with being pre-diabetic and THANK GOD the government passed regulation only a few years ago mandating all companies be transparent with the added sugars on the nutrition labels. Because I thought I was eating healthy and in moderation all this time, but that was a lie hidden by food companies. And things like drinking is age restricted as alcohol permanently damages younger brains and children physiologically are more vulnerable to being addicted and are unable to make informed decisions like an mature adult brain. You can fact check me on that, people under 18 do not have the brain maturity to exercise self-control. Now if people are given all the information about the dangers of social media, then of course they are free to consume and do whatever they want, and your point would be valid. BUT all of the points Celestia and many others have been raising are not known to most users. Regulation has been very slow to come as well as scientific peer-reviewed studies as evidence.
Especially children; if you read first hand account from teachers online they are saying the ipad kid generation are way worst in attention and learning than any other generation they have taught. You need to understand companies take advantage of people's addiction for profit and do their best to hide the negative effects including trying to put out their own funded studies telling the public it's not so bad (Like with cigarettes and asbestos). It's not learned helplessness imo, it's sinister capitalism driven manipulation.
Tantacrul made a video going over the history of Facebook. And one line he said that I can’t stop thinking about was “Is social media a net positive for humanity?”
And the more I think about it… I don’t think it is. All of the big ones (Twitter/Facebook/TikTok) have strayed so far from what they set out to be that we would all be better off if they didn’t exist anymore.
As a comp sci major, I feel isolated when I see how exited my peers and professors are about new technology, because I’m just reminded of the harm that it’s causing.
It's worse than I feared! 😨 Thank you Duchess Celestia for discussing this brain rot phenomenon with TikTok!
No Douchess and Squarespece... is.. is it over![said in brooding anime voice]
This is exactly how ive been feeling about instant gratification and the future of art, amazingly put.
Also looooove the adorable christmas art!!!! The colors are super pretty!
I LOVE U SMMM CELESTIA!!! IN THE MOST RESPECTFUL WAY
going into arttok is like willingly moving into a warzone
(my only actual experience with tiktok was when i was 9 and i deleted it after like 6 minutes of installation because i couldn't scroll up)
BTW When you explained how tiktok addiction develops, it reminded me of dodo birds and how their move to Mauritius with its lack of predators eliminated their fight-or-flight response, which was how they went extinct so fast when the dutch colonies went there. Yeah, not a good look.
Hugely appreciate the sources and the fact that you mention other contributing factors here.
Will say I think some of the sources might be dubious here; the first one has links to various other "sources" that don't make sense, like the sentence "TikTok’s never-ending stream of 24-31-second videos reduces users’ attention spans compared to other social media networks. Also, teens spend almost eight hours daily on TikTok, more than on different media." linking to a guide on optimizing your TikTok content by an "AI video editor" app that does not mention this timeframe at all.
i don't know if i have a different perception of boredom, but a lot of the tasks you described as being boring seem more like those kind of "doing nothing" tasks to me, which i actually think are quite rewarding, because it keeps my brain active, even if i'm not actually doing much physically. personally, i see boredom as more like "i want to do something that i'm not currently doing because what i'm doing now feels pointless, but i can't do something different/i don't know what else to do" and ironically i think the way algorithms are changing are making me feel *more* bored, to the point where i struggle to be creative just because i'm *too* bored to want to do anything, like my brain is too focused on the fact that i feel bored that i can't come up with ideas on how to stop myself from feeling bored, if that makes sense. i cant say anything about tiktok specifically because it's not something i use, but it feels like this issue is at least in part caused by how the algorithms are constantly fighting to get and keep your attention on their app/site, even through directly wasting your time (like showing you stuff you aren't interested in or have already seen), which ends up making using them feel pointless and boring, and i think that ends up making it harder to create
I've been stuck at home for ages (because of a bunch of unfortunate happenings) and I've talked about when I'm able to work I want a boring job and my familys flabbergasted. I have the best time doing boring things at boring times, being stuck at home and having all this entertainment and time available has been slowly harming both my art and mental health I have nowhere to find boredom because I'm constantly here, where entertainment exist, I miss being able to be at school and die of boredom and mild stress and I miss all the job training day things we did it was so boring and I had such good ideas, now I just have jumbled ideas and no substance or direction because I don't have the time to think and I can't mentally separate myself from home mode.. Luckily my grandma sometimes picks me up and go to her house to do other stuff but it's not really as good as getting properly and utterly bored doing something that I don't care about
Let's all collectively pray that America's ban on tik tok goes through
...and pray that it's JUST gonna ban tiktok
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haaa honestly quite a few symptoms from this are kind of similar to my experiences with adhd. a lot of the worst symptoms of adhd are caused from a baseline dopamine deficiency (adhd is alot more then that your brain structure is significantly different in general but the low dopamine creates the most issues) resulting in you having to seek it out externally for quick hits to just feel normal or motivated to do thing's.
"Boredom" , for lack of a better word , is good
I completely agree with what you said in this video.
Damn who would have guessed that targeting the youngest, most impressionable and erratic folks (bc of their age thus immaturity), with an app like TikTok would get us here huh.
This is why I'm really strong on my conviction that no one under 16 years should have access to social medias in general. And it feels "good" seeing a lot of scientific papers and studies confirming my thoughts on the matter.
As someone with, kinda a cocktail of mental health problems. I don't really like getting bored, because that tends to lead to intrusive/just bad thoughts. So I pretty much always have RUclips on, while I do something else (heck, while watching most of this video, I was playing Pokémon Picross, on my 3DS
But, I do have moments during my weeks/days. Where I'm either not listening to anything, or just watching RUclips, and letting my mind wander
But also, I guess I have the opposite problem? Like, instead of constantly looking for short form content. I'm constantly looking for long form content
I fall asleep to DYKG clip videos (on 1% volume). And I'll gladly listen to a multi hour video, about a show I watched as a tween
But, that's simply because I like having background noise, while I do other stuff. Like reading or drawing. And I'm not blasting it, so my focus isn't 100% on the video. Instead, it's mostly on the other thing I'm doing
11:26 I knew it wasn't good I didn't know... Oh god.
I'm of the firm belief that kids need to be bored. It's not just tiktok, but you see kids out with their parents and they're always on a phone or watching something on their ipad. Let the kids be bored, it's good for them and their mental development. It's good for adults to be bored. Boredom sucks, sure, but as you said, the results of it are good.
I must be super weird or just old. I have never even used tik tok, I actually can’t stand short videos hence why I never used it. My preferred length is like an hour but the shortest I am ok with is like 20 minutes. For reference I am only 26 but maybe that’s old now, I also have adhd and autism and I think that’s why I can’t watch short videos since I hyper focus on one thing at a time and to many different videos at once I get anxiety. In a way I have the opposite of this haha. As an artist I learn the best by watching how each artist draws and you can’t learn how they do in less than a minute, because of this and ai I am glad I stayed away from social media. I decided to shared this in case there are others like me haha.
My sister has brainrot. She can't focus on almost anything, she skips videos that are too long for her (usually 30 seconds or more is a lot for her), she can't even hear a complete song. She's going to decide if she wants to go to a university or go to work and every time I try to talk to her about that, she thinks I'm just joking. I'm not
not to double comment but i want to eat your art. this one would be a berry flavored smoothie
i have tiktok but it's more like a hot stove in the corner of my phone and i only remember why it's a bad idea to touch it for a few months. every time i forget it's a coin flip on if it'll be like crack for 10 hours or if i'll be weighing methods of kms after half an hour
I don't use TikTok, but I removed RUclips from my phone because I realized that YT Shorts were doing something similar to me. Sometimes, it's painful not being able to just bring up a video when I'm doing something else, but I'm trying to condition myself out of it as best as I can.
Can you make a video where to find good artist to learn?
I do not use TikTok at all, not because I dislike it, but because I never found the need to. And I wonder if I am missing out? I do have an account but it just sits there. So, should I?
This is funny. I think I can see why TikTok was annoying for me.
I want longvideos(aka background noise) when I'm on RUclips. I create a playlist to play while I draw/write/craft. I don't want to have to stop what I'm doing to get to the next video. So when I make playlist I look for long videos 30min+. 1 hour long is best.
I consider 10 min videos SHORT. Lol 30 secs is way too short for me.
Thank you for bringing up this issue, I’m a beginner artists who’s on a lot of platforms BUT TikTok and your videos are helping a lot.
i deleted tiktok recently i was clocking 24h a week on average i have deleted it and redownloaded it multiple times over the past year and i hope the ban follows through
I REALLY wish there was a way to turn off RUclips shorts, I don't have tiktok but I don't have the willpower not to click shorts
The app makes me depressed and gives me anxiety
Another reason I’m glad I’m not on that hell app tbh.
Never installed tik tok never will
If you watched this video all the way through, congrats, it's progress :)
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It’s that crap short form content on social media in general.