At the time the rushed first half made sense, I think. Brotherhood is now considered the “definitive version” by many but at the time of its release the original anime was still absolutely huge. Probably one of the most visible and onmipresent of that time in the mainstream along with like Naruto and Bleach. To remake it so soon after release was seen by like half of the fanbase as a cynical cash grab and as fanservice by the other.
I completly agree on the point of the original anime having a better introduction. It's much more of a slow buildup that introduces the characters, concepts, and world of the series in an easily digestible manner, while also telling it's own self-contained story. Brotherhood, on the other hand, just sort of drops you into the middle of a MUCH larger story and expects you to keep up with all of these charcters and concepts being thrown at you at once. I may think Brotherhood has the better overrall story, but I still find myself liking FMA 2003 better as a show, due to the way it's paced. Hell, even the original author has gone on record saying she liked where they took the story in the original anime and found it quite interesting.
The most different thing I love about FMA is the fact that, as a shonen manga/anime, Ed doesn't get insanely more powerful like other in the same genre. What I grew to hate about Shonen is that progression often focuses solely on the main protagonist in the cycle of lose fight->train->win fight-> lose next fight. Progression in the story occurs throughout the entire world. While Ed also gets better/stronger (or rather smarter) about using alchemy, the world isn't as reliant on him becoming "the best of the best". All the characters Ed meets and affects become integral to the story, and it plays a lot onto the themes of sacrifice and human connection. Ed isn't planning on sacrificing himself to save the world like other shonen shows, he's just trying to fix his mistakes. And every single character in the show are at the cusp of giving something up to get something they want. But its human connection that saves everyone from doing the big dumb, often because Ed connects to them in some form or shape. It's what saves Scar in his character arc, and people who sacrifice that are doomed like the guy with the dog and his daughter. Other shonen shows just apply this on their protagonist just because he's the hero. Other shows would go, "if the bad guys is a god, I'll also be a god!". What Ed gives up in the end to get back what he lost is the most human thing a shonen protagonist ever gave up on. Other shows would even do the trope where "you never really lost what you gave up" bullshit.
Can we acknowledge how hilarious it is that Truth has the same voice as Black Star? And that we need a Brotherhood treatment for Soul Eater? Also, mangaka Hiromu Arakawa has begun a new series titled Daemons of the Shadow Realm. It only has three volumes at this time so I don't think it can be called an instant classic. Yet.
Having gotten further into the vid, OH YEAH. The scene with Ed in the church rattling off the components of a human one by one is his DEFINING character moment to me! It might just be my favorite scene in the series because it so thoroughly sets up his starting viewpoint and gives the audience something to contrast with his eventual changes in opinion later on. It's also so openly and thoroughly balsphemous to almost every religion, and even a few atheists, that it immediately established his character to me as someone who DOES NOT, give a SINGLE F#@K about what people think of him. Which I, as an edgy teen during my first watch of this, thought was the COOLEST thing ever.
It’s interesting because Ed knows himself, from direct experience, that there’s so much more to humans than the material. I don’t really know if what he said really matched what he actually believe or if he was in denial or if he was maybe just trying to help Rose but that monologue is kinda confusing.
This is a great video. As a long time fan of the series who's consumed all three versions, you really nailed a lot of the deeper concepts. Even without a deeper understanding of the real life alchemy she's pulling from, the way she writes the characters and plot progression follows the concepts so closely that once you learn what's being drawn from it adds a completely new layer of complexity to the story that hardcore fans will appreciate. Arakawa actually did a really good job understanding and representing real life alchemical principles and concepts. There's a channel floating around that goes really deep into it and it's absolutely mind blowing how much she got correct. The series is filled with the core goal of alchemy which is refining all substances into the most pure form aka gold. The ultimate 'answer' in the end is to put more good into the world instead of a straight 1:1 exchange as that means nothing gets better or "purifies". It's absolutely fascinating for anyone interested.
FMA was great for its time. Once you experience FMAB, you can never look at FMA the same. FMA is still great and I have rewatched it once or twice but it is no brotherhood. FMAB, I watch at least once a year for a decade+ now
I came in to this interested in FMA analysis, and then halfway through decided to look up the term Hitobashira... THAT SHIT IS FUCKED UP! Literally just burying people alive to try to keep a building from collapsing.
This video is really good and kinda complicated. Didn't understand everything that you talked about here, so I'll have to re-watch it a couple of times in the future before I think I'll get almost all of what you explained here.
for me it is and always be one of the best shows i have ever watched im 19 and seen the orignal fma, its was on spannish tv and do my first anime, many years later i seen fmab, originally i thought fmab was a knockoff 😂
Do you have any thoughts about why Alphonse loses his whole body but Ed only loses his leg, initially? I understand the idea of losing something important to you that is linked to the specific circumstances of the human transmutation that you attmpted as a punishment for the hubris of attempting human transmutation (i.e. - try to bring back your dead baby --> lose the ability to have children/some of your guts). However, the most I could really come up with given that framework is that Al loses his entire body to further punish Ed, which doesn't make a lot of sense to me. On one hand, I understand that losing Al would be a fitting punishment for Ed because in attempting to bring his family back, he loses the only family that he has left. On the other hand, that negates Al's autonomy within the story and moves him into the role of a plot device/learning mechanism for his brother, as opposed to treating him like he is his own person with his own relationship with The Truth. I mean, attempting to get their mom back with human transmutation isn't even Al's idea, but it feels like he is punished more harshly than Ed is. So where does it leave Al if we are looking at what he lost as being directly linked to punishment for the hubris of attempting human transmutation? Like, why does he lose his entire body while his brother only loses a leg? How is that a fitting punishment for his crime? Does that make sense?
Al's body being taken is sure a consequence of his complacency with Ed. But the real reason it was taken was to punish Edward. Al was taken in whole, and so was not harmed bodily while Ed lost his leg and had to endure that pain. Without Ed then making an appropriate sacrifice to get his soul back, Alphonse was effectively dead. This harkens back to perhaps a story like Exodus, where God comes down in to Egypt and smites the firstborn sons. The children, while sure they die, they are taken painlessly in their sleep and are taken to limbo because they are innocent. The true punishment was for the children's parents.
sure would be nice, but there was a time I had 300 subs and most of my comments were just angry attack on titan fans making fun of me, so I'm satisfied if this is my peak
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At the time the rushed first half made sense, I think. Brotherhood is now considered the “definitive version” by many but at the time of its release the original anime was still absolutely huge. Probably one of the most visible and onmipresent of that time in the mainstream along with like Naruto and Bleach. To remake it so soon after release was seen by like half of the fanbase as a cynical cash grab and as fanservice by the other.
FMAB is practically a seinen anime
I completly agree on the point of the original anime having a better introduction. It's much more of a slow buildup that introduces the characters, concepts, and world of the series in an easily digestible manner, while also telling it's own self-contained story. Brotherhood, on the other hand, just sort of drops you into the middle of a MUCH larger story and expects you to keep up with all of these charcters and concepts being thrown at you at once. I may think Brotherhood has the better overrall story, but I still find myself liking FMA 2003 better as a show, due to the way it's paced. Hell, even the original author has gone on record saying she liked where they took the story in the original anime and found it quite interesting.
The most different thing I love about FMA is the fact that, as a shonen manga/anime, Ed doesn't get insanely more powerful like other in the same genre. What I grew to hate about Shonen is that progression often focuses solely on the main protagonist in the cycle of lose fight->train->win fight-> lose next fight. Progression in the story occurs throughout the entire world. While Ed also gets better/stronger (or rather smarter) about using alchemy, the world isn't as reliant on him becoming "the best of the best".
All the characters Ed meets and affects become integral to the story, and it plays a lot onto the themes of sacrifice and human connection. Ed isn't planning on sacrificing himself to save the world like other shonen shows, he's just trying to fix his mistakes. And every single character in the show are at the cusp of giving something up to get something they want. But its human connection that saves everyone from doing the big dumb, often because Ed connects to them in some form or shape. It's what saves Scar in his character arc, and people who sacrifice that are doomed like the guy with the dog and his daughter.
Other shonen shows just apply this on their protagonist just because he's the hero. Other shows would go, "if the bad guys is a god, I'll also be a god!". What Ed gives up in the end to get back what he lost is the most human thing a shonen protagonist ever gave up on. Other shows would even do the trope where "you never really lost what you gave up" bullshit.
This video watered my crops and made odd chimeric puppies sprout from flask shaped petals. I loved it.
Can we acknowledge how hilarious it is that Truth has the same voice as Black Star? And that we need a Brotherhood treatment for Soul Eater?
Also, mangaka Hiromu Arakawa has begun a new series titled Daemons of the Shadow Realm. It only has three volumes at this time so I don't think it can be called an instant classic. Yet.
Honestly, FMAB is such a mature and well thought out story, it feels unfair to compare it to other battle shonen series. It's really in its own genre.
Having gotten further into the vid, OH YEAH. The scene with Ed in the church rattling off the components of a human one by one is his DEFINING character moment to me! It might just be my favorite scene in the series because it so thoroughly sets up his starting viewpoint and gives the audience something to contrast with his eventual changes in opinion later on.
It's also so openly and thoroughly balsphemous to almost every religion, and even a few atheists, that it immediately established his character to me as someone who DOES NOT, give a SINGLE F#@K about what people think of him. Which I, as an edgy teen during my first watch of this, thought was the COOLEST thing ever.
It’s interesting because Ed knows himself, from direct experience, that there’s so much more to humans than the material. I don’t really know if what he said really matched what he actually believe or if he was in denial or if he was maybe just trying to help Rose but that monologue is kinda confusing.
This is a great video. As a long time fan of the series who's consumed all three versions, you really nailed a lot of the deeper concepts. Even without a deeper understanding of the real life alchemy she's pulling from, the way she writes the characters and plot progression follows the concepts so closely that once you learn what's being drawn from it adds a completely new layer of complexity to the story that hardcore fans will appreciate.
Arakawa actually did a really good job understanding and representing real life alchemical principles and concepts. There's a channel floating around that goes really deep into it and it's absolutely mind blowing how much she got correct. The series is filled with the core goal of alchemy which is refining all substances into the most pure form aka gold. The ultimate 'answer' in the end is to put more good into the world instead of a straight 1:1 exchange as that means nothing gets better or "purifies". It's absolutely fascinating for anyone interested.
If you like Full Metal alchemist brotherhood because of the Guilt and Sacrifice, i'm fairly certain you will love Made in Abyss.
FMA was great for its time.
Once you experience FMAB, you can never look at FMA the same. FMA is still great and I have rewatched it once or twice but it is no brotherhood.
FMAB, I watch at least once a year for a decade+ now
I came in to this interested in FMA analysis, and then halfway through decided to look up the term Hitobashira... THAT SHIT IS FUCKED UP! Literally just burying people alive to try to keep a building from collapsing.
This video is really good and kinda complicated. Didn't understand everything that you talked about here, so I'll have to re-watch it a couple of times in the future before I think I'll get almost all of what you explained here.
Great video
for me it is and always be one of the best shows i have ever watched im 19 and seen the orignal fma, its was on spannish tv and do my first anime, many years later i seen fmab, originally i thought fmab was a knockoff 😂
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Do you have any thoughts about why Alphonse loses his whole body but Ed only loses his leg, initially? I understand the idea of losing something important to you that is linked to the specific circumstances of the human transmutation that you attmpted as a punishment for the hubris of attempting human transmutation (i.e. - try to bring back your dead baby --> lose the ability to have children/some of your guts). However, the most I could really come up with given that framework is that Al loses his entire body to further punish Ed, which doesn't make a lot of sense to me. On one hand, I understand that losing Al would be a fitting punishment for Ed because in attempting to bring his family back, he loses the only family that he has left. On the other hand, that negates Al's autonomy within the story and moves him into the role of a plot device/learning mechanism for his brother, as opposed to treating him like he is his own person with his own relationship with The Truth. I mean, attempting to get their mom back with human transmutation isn't even Al's idea, but it feels like he is punished more harshly than Ed is. So where does it leave Al if we are looking at what he lost as being directly linked to punishment for the hubris of attempting human transmutation? Like, why does he lose his entire body while his brother only loses a leg? How is that a fitting punishment for his crime? Does that make sense?
Al's body being taken is sure a consequence of his complacency with Ed. But the real reason it was taken was to punish Edward. Al was taken in whole, and so was not harmed bodily while Ed lost his leg and had to endure that pain. Without Ed then making an appropriate sacrifice to get his soul back, Alphonse was effectively dead. This harkens back to perhaps a story like Exodus, where God comes down in to Egypt and smites the firstborn sons. The children, while sure they die, they are taken painlessly in their sleep and are taken to limbo because they are innocent. The true punishment was for the children's parents.
One day, I swear, one day I'll click on one of your videos and I'll see 2m subs and 1m views.
i'm sure about this
sure would be nice, but there was a time I had 300 subs and most of my comments were just angry attack on titan fans making fun of me, so I'm satisfied if this is my peak
(V=D