For real, this lawyers advice is just let him do it or he might get mad at you. I mistakenly thought this clip might have answered the question it posed.
@@steve2070 It did answer it. You have to roll down your window enough to provide documents and provide those documents, that's the law. The part about not getting an armed cop mad at you was just life advice based on all the people who end up in jail with planted drugs, or shot (though that is obviously rarer than in the US).
@MoriguTheDead people are cucks and we end up more and more under the heel of the police enforcement. Good thing brave men sacrificed so much to defend the very Rights and Freedoms that pussies are so weak to hand over to the State because that's "life advice". Just obey the state forever. I use to wonder how the German people could allow a small group of cops to rule the nation. Seeing the state of "men" today, I see why!
they get maaaaaad when they don't get their way; they will lie, threaten, intimidate, bully, and in the end can take away your rights or life. Dashcams can save you from other drivers and police at the same time
I Respectfully disagree. If a police officer gets mad at you for not rolling the window down all the way, or for not telling him irrelevant details, like where you are going, then it is HE who is Escalating, not YOU. There is something fundamentally WRONG if a Police Officer escalates because you assert YOUR Rights
The emphasis for EVERY police interaction is, don't make them mad. Low IQ people had low impulse control. Proof that if you have no marketable skills. You can always become a police officer
After going to a coffee shop at 2:30am on a quiet mid week stop before having to work a 12hr shift The police officer was sitting in the parking lot And followed me We drove 6 blocks before the officer turned on the lights And i pulled over...Knowing i done nothing wrong All my info was up to date (lic,ins,ownership etc) I turned off my car, turned on the interior light rolled the window down about 3 fingers width Officer comes with the flash light "Roll your window down all the way" - No sir its fine there i can hear you fine And you can hear me. Is there a problem? "Yeah you ran the red light back there" Ah no sir it was yellow as i entered the intersection. It was only red when you entered the intersection 5 car lengths behind me He proceeds to shine the light around "Are you lost?" No why ? "whats with the GPS?" Thats not a GPS sir that is a duel DVR camera that records my driving front and rear It will clearly show I entered the intersection on a yellow And your car on the red with no lights or siren active.....Officer says : "I will be with you in a moment sit tight" Comes back with my ID ..."I will only let you off with a warning this time Be more aware of your driving"..Now i could of been a smart ass And asked for the ticket And etc etc But we both knew i was in the right And had proof Where had i not had the camera I would of been screwed Aside from following me around ...Had i actually ran the red....You do not tell the cop you have a document to better help his case lol
dash cams are great , i got rear ended and a guy had it on his cam - 100% not my fault . with icbc it helped out my clami - saved everyone some money really
@@freakyflow good handling of the situation. Assuming you were driving calm at night he is in the right here. Generally is the rule to not cause emergency braking before the intersection and to finish the turn if you are thee already. "You can legally enter an intersection during a yellow (amber) light, but only if it is unsafe to stop before the light turns red. If you are too close to the intersection to stop safely when the light turns yellow, you are permitted to proceed through".
@@degvello21 I was already on the stop mark when it turned yellow He was on the mark as it was red ...I should of keep the video And uploaded it to youtube
Just last week I hit a red light, and a cop to my left turned left. So when the light turned green, I was behind him. He was doing about 10km/h SLOWER than the speed limit as I began to catch up. That arsehole wanted me to pass him. I ride a motorcycle, and don’t tell me we aren’t profiled. I work a late shift, coming home at the same time the bars close. Just because I ride a bike doesn’t mean I was at a bar(no reason to run my plate when the weather is still nice). So on one hand, I kind of get their vigilance, but on the other hand, I can’t count how many times I’ve watched the po-po make illegal maneuvers without their lights on. Illegal u-turns, running reds, etc. And I’ve been followed multiple times just riding home from work at ~02:00, my normal commute. They’re looking for a reason to pull you over, don’t give them one. The po-po are not your friend, they will never be. However, my personal advice is to not escalate the situation(as per this video). Be aware of your personal circumstances, and don’t offer up anything that could be incriminating, but don’t hide anything that doesn’t need to be hidden. “Have you had anything to drink”? With an UNOPENED bottle in the back seat, “no sir, I’m just coming home from work”. Hell, give them the general direction of work, don’t mention the bottle, and just let them read home address off the license.
Okay, when your window is already rolled down a little bit and a police officer asks you to roll it down more.They are the ones that have just escalated, not you by refusing
The emphasis for EVERY police interaction is, don't make them mad. Low IQ people had low impulse control. Proof that if you have no marketable skills. You can always become a police officer
If some stranger ask your daughter the same questions...are you still comfortable with this advice!? FTP ALWAYS! Film The Police! For The People! And don't talk to armed strangers! And get a new lawyer!
certainly don't get THIS lawyer. Here's my comment I posted above: 1:29 "If you don't have anything to hide, why not tell them where you're coming from ?" ... this is the WORST lawyer advice I have ever heard. Are you sure you're a lawyer ? Cops can use ANY information against you !!! If you say "I just went to the shopping mall", one cop could say "Well we just had a report of a shoplifter in the area. Get out of the car". One question answered will always lead to another question. Furthermore, YES I have something to hide: I hide my PRIVATE LIFE. It's none of the government's business. Thumbs down.
"if you got nothing to hide, why don't you just tell them where you are coming from." I can't believe a lawyer just said that. It's like you have not even a cursory understanding of your own profession.
The lawyer gave GOOD advise. Look, stupid. When you've been stopped by police, THEY HAVE ALL THE POWER AT THAT MOMENT IN TIME. Sure, you have RIGHTS but unless you're just itching for a fight, WHICH YOU WILL LOSE AT THAT MOMENT, why not just answer the question? You'll be on your way in a minute. Start a fight... and you could be DELAYED for a DAY OR TWO... cooling your heels in a cell until you can get to court. Only REALLY STUPID PEOPLE do stuff that will get themselves arrested. REALLY STUPID PEOPLE. Smart people, when they get annoyed enough at unfair treatment, complain to those who can do something about it... like your MP... or better yet... get yourself elected and work to change the law. But until then... moron... use what few brains you have... and cooperate. You catch many more flies with HONEY than with VINEGAR.
@@markusk1015 If to assume I will NOT be ABUSED by my own government or it's agents (police, etc.) puts my in some sort of "sad state" then... I'M SURE GLAD I'M IN IT. I'm now 85 and have been pulled over perhaps a half dozen times in my life, usually for speeding. I've NEVER had anything but polite and fair treatment from police. Why? Because I didn't act like some self-important, entitled, hostile asshole like I often see in these traffic stop videos on RUclips. If YOU were a cop and some jerkoff with a shitload of attitude started mouthing off at you, WHAT WOULD YOU DO?
I am confused - we the public have to manage the cop’s emotional state so he doesn’t shoot us? Seems to me standing on our charter rights should not have to be OK’ed by cops looking for a reason to escalate.
I posted the following comment : 1:29 "If you don't have anything to hide, why not tell them where you're coming from ?" ... this is the WORST lawyer advice I have ever heard. Are you sure you're a lawyer ? Cops can use ANY information against you !!! If you say "I just went to the shopping mall", one cop could say "Well we just had a report of a shoplifter in the area. Get out of the car". One question answered will always lead to another question. Furthermore, YES I have something to hide: I hide my PRIVATE LIFE. It's none of the government's business. Thumbs down.
When I was a kid, if a cop came by the house in the course of doing his job, you treated him like everybody else: you greeted/her at the door, invited him/her inside, and enjoyed a snack while you discussed whatever was being investigated. if you could be helpful, you were. Because chances are the cop was just another human being in the community, dealing in good faith. They weren’t out to get somebody or trap somebody unnecessarily. It was real and honest policing, And the community probably wouldn’t have put up with tyranny. By the time I was old enough to work there, for the most part, cops only had each other for friends. Most were good people; We didn’t get much free time, but could enjoy a barbeque or a party together or do fitness training in the workout room together. there would be the odd one who was basically overcompensating and fearful in there every day performance of the job. Generally nice guys, but everybody knew that the defensiveness and fear with which he did his job meant that he was most likely to be beaten the hell up or to overreact. two times in my lifetime, I have known guys like that. A person has to wonder why those guys got into law-enforcement. And you can tell by looking. They are the guys that spend way too much time in the weight room, so they’re over built, and are absolutely enormous, to look as intimidating as possible. and the flashlight they carry it’s not a nice little maglight A reasonable size that everybody else carries, but instead something half the size of a baseball bat. And it weighs a metric ton. everybody else in life gets into a fight or two, takes a few knocks, and then sees that it’s not such a big deal, so they’re over the fear, but not these guys. They never get over it. and then there was the slimeball type. I only met one like that, and had to work with him, but it wasn’t too long before the guy had to be put in check. He was the type that would be inappropriate in a big way with women, Especially if he perceived her to be without a friend in the world or financial resources. Really maybe they weren’t safe with him. these guys tend to think they’re above the law, but also hiding what they’re doing. It doesn’t take too long before people start wonder about him; The decent people that he works with, will generally figure that out pretty quickly, and he’ll find himself on the receiving end of charges in short order. I don’t know if I know anybody nowadays that would invite a “peace officer” in automatically if one knocked at the door. Especially after what we saw During the trucker protest. In terms of defensive documentation with electronics, we live in a time when a person has a fighting chance these days. Thank God.
Yes, Dennis, you are right. Here's my comment that I posted above: 1:29 "If you don't have anything to hide, why not tell them where you're coming from ?" ... this is the WORST lawyer advice I have ever heard. Are you sure you're a lawyer ? Cops can use ANY information against you !!! If you say "I just went to the shopping mall", one cop could say "Well we just had a report of a shoplifter in the area. Get out of the car". One question answered will always lead to another question. Furthermore, YES I have something to hide: I hide my PRIVATE LIFE. It's none of the government's business. Thumbs down.
@@power2084 He subtly clarified that if he did have something to hide, he would lie to them. Calm down. This guy bashes the Canadian legal system and the police every chance he gets, because he's on the side of civil rights.
@@atheopagan number 1: he's a former prosecutor. Dont be fooled. Number 2: ANY lawyer will always tell their client, or the general public, these 3 things: a) Dont talk to police b) never answer any question, dont make any statement. c) Invoke your right to remain silent. All these things are the VERY BASIC of being a defense lawyer. This 🤡 is telling people to answer police questions !!
In almost every single video, this guy is like: “Unfortunately, unliked the United States, we don't really have any rights in Canada.” And he's correct.
After having witnessed a billion youtube videos, both of the cops very own body-cam footage and various other video sources, as the police conduct their many questionable 'activities', I was once convinced that the screening process for agencies attempting to hire police officers was either flawed or somehow lacking a critical component. If ever there was a job whose description would seemingly necessitate deep psychological analysis of its participants prior to the participants being hired and issued a badge, a gun, and special powers under the law to effect detainment and arrest of citizens, then 'police officer' would be at the top of my list. However, of the police officers I've known (on a personal level, not through police interractions) not one of them has ever confirmed that they underwent anything even resembling a psychological screening process of ANY kind. Of the multitude of videos to which I have alluded, it is a scant few percent where in later comments it is revealed that the police officer's very criminal and unconstituional actions, some of which resulted in permanent and/or life-altering injuries, or death, of the 'suspect', were found to have resulted in sanctions of any sort whatsoever against the offending officer(s). This fact alone is indicative not of a problem whereby a small percentage of police officers are clearly psychopaths with a badge and a gun, but rather is indicative that these police officer's supervisors, and their supervisors,.....and THEIR supervisors are all complicit in what could reasonably be considered, at the very least, a level of criminal negligence for not having adequately vetted these mentally unstable, and constitutionally unschooled, drones. That being said, bear in mind that is the best case scenario. That is to say,.....what if these outcomes aren't the result of mere negligence? What if it's not merely the result of a level of indifference within the multiple levels of government and local police administration? What if these outcomes are the intended result of an intentional hiring process whereby those in authority have deliberately sought to hire and indoctrinate precisely the kind of psychopathic, keen to blindly follow orders, barely literate, and maladjusted former highschool bully victims, who seem to occupy the positions depicted. At this time I am infinitely more inclined to believe that latter over former.
In Canada we have this thing called Winter. It gets very cold in Winter. Can anyone think of a perfectly valid reason why in Winter a driver might not want to open their window any further than necessary to hand over documents? The cop has to do their job in Winter, they are going to get cold. It is their discretion whether to pull you over or not, to give a warning or not. No reason I should have to freeze my arse off because of a decision by a police officer.
you listening it wrong .. he didn't say don't do it .. he said use your head and don't be an ass to the police officer ... and yes .. I got pissed to get the most expensive dozen of eggs in town because they charged me with "license plate obstruction" .. well. . lesson is don't put the blue lights with dark cover and already damaged place .. :D But it's in't his fault that the scaner poped on my car when he was following .. Can things go south and you lucky with hm .. not really polite person - obviously yes ... never happen to me thought ... always met a good guys ... should you escalate ? I don't think so ... stupidly and overly crazy reason would be is ... just forget they are policy and think about it this way, why would you be ass to the guy with a gun and if you expect it to go easy then :)
Lame excuse. You’re still required to provide your documents when asked. Being difficult just raises the suspicion of an officer who can find all sorts of reasons to investigate you further. You want to be the smart ass who puts a spotlight on yourself?! Use your head
@@phoqt00b - yes, there is. Your argument has never held water in court. Police are tasked with enforcing law, citizens are legally required to obey laws. Cold in the winter is not a mitigating factor, however, it will draw very unwanted attention should you attempt to obstruct a police officer from a very reasonable and legalmdemand. Obstruction carries penalties. Get pulled over, and your driving? The HTA no matter the province or territory directs you to provide ID, insurance and ownership. In order to surrender them, you must open the window, even if only slightly. Law doesnt involve feelings, just facts.
Thumbs down. 1:29 "If you don't have anything to hide, why not tell them where you're coming from ?" ... this is the WORST lawyer advice I have ever heard. Are you sure you're a lawyer ? Cops can use ANY information against you !!! If you say "I just went to the shopping mall", one cop could say "Well we just had a report of a shoplifter in the area. Get out of the car". One question answered will always lead to another question. Furthermore, YES I have something to hide: I hide my PRIVATE LIFE. It's none of the government's business. Thumbs down.
lol I paused at the 1:39 mark to check comments for this and sure enough! Not going to be too hard as we're all learning (even RUclipsrs) but I agree with the OP, say nothing except echoing your right to remain silent. Any officer with integrity will respect you doing so. Any officer that gets offended by it is one of the bad ones. Careful. Example: You say you're just coming from 2 blocks down from a friends house and by chance there was just a murder and you fit a loose description of the guy fleeing. Guess how much your life just changed?
@@EBackwards Lawyers just want to get paid as well, so you should take a youtube lawyers advice with a huge grain of salt regardless. Cops will be paid regardless, lawyers get paid when you 'need' them.
I’m Covid adverse, and immune compromised. They can take a photo of my credentials through my window. As a single woman I’m never rolling down my window completely- just enough for us to hear each other. I’ve watched too many serial killer/cop impersonator videos. No thanks.
Cops like to profile and fish. I was once driving in my van on a main street of a city. Cops pulled beside me, saw me with long hair and a leather jacket. they pulled back behind me then hit the lights.I was not speeding or nothing. Their excuse was that one of my two light bulbs in my back bumper that illuminates the license plate was burned out. This was broad daylight. They were hoping too see something.
I got pulled over on the 401, Christmas Day for doing the speed limit. It was perfect weather and hardly any traffic. The cop asked where I was going and why I was driving so slow. I said, “I’m a school bus driver and enjoyed the drive. I always drive the limit as long as I’m not impeding traffic as is the case today.” He wished me a merry Christmas and that was it.
"I got pulled over on the 401, Christmas Day for doing the speed limit". THAT'S a problem!!! I trust that after this 'encounter', whereupon you obtained the name and badge number of this 'road-pirate', you then proceeded to file an official complaint with this imbecile's superiors? What sort of a country do we live in where a gun-toting, jack-booted thug can simply pull you over and harass your for the crime of,.......driving the posted speed limit? Talk about abuse of authority!! And people wonder why citizens say, "Fuck the police!" Infuriating.
although not mandatory in Ontario, they can do a breathalyzer on the spot, no suspicion required. I was blown away by this new legislation. I drive commercial and was pulled in a pull off doing a load check and one rolled up and put the thing in my face. I checked into it and they can do it. We’re being trampled on .
The cop asks , where were you coming from and you tell him , the bank , and that bank was robbed 2 minutes after you left, the cop will arrest you and now it’s on you to prove your innocence so now you have to get this lawyer , who wants your money. Or say “ I don’t answer questions “
Basically the advice is walk on eggshells and let the cop do whatever they want. I'm not comfortable with that. Why have any rights "if you have nothing to hide"?
Here is one question that I would like to answer. The motor vehicle act says that you must produce a document. Do the police have the right to take your documents back to their car? To me that is surrendering your documents.
My standard response to "where are you coming from?" Or "where are you going?" Is, "I don't see how that's any of your business ". Gets them riled up, but I don't care. It usually followed with "i don't answer questions, am i being detained? If so i request legal counsel and i can't afford it". Only once in 30 years has it ended with anything but "have a nice day sir"
I let them know that I know my rights. I also let them know that their personal opinion of me is none of my business. Time is money and I will sue, I have a weak heart and a good lawyer. Record everything all the time by all means possible.
It's strange that exercising my rights is suspicious and "being difficult". Perhaps if more people exercised their right to silence, kept their privacy and didn't follow unlawful orders, the Canadian police wouldn't incorrectly make assumptions about being guilt of things tthatey are not related to the stop. Perhaps you like talking to people that arrest your progress and interrupt your peace and expect you to talk as if you know and like them. Weirdo.
I dont pretend or remotely kiss anybody's ass. They ( police ) are mostly sad to say power trippn bullies . Gangs with a badge! I respect what they took an oath too & there are some good cops which we need . Best Approach, try to keep waters calm but know ur rights.
@@mikenicholas1019 Shouldn't have to do more then is necessary as per the law . It shouldn't matter if the waters are calm or not, rights are rights, bullying is bullying and power tripping is just that .
@@dhache1195 my case is in your point. Your pre-concieved notion that 'you' which you mean is me, is guilty of something. My chartered rights and freedoms are supposed to be in-alienable and every Canadian has a right to live free from harassment . Throw your rights away, but leave mine alone.
In BC, the Schryvers Test mandates that the driver has to state their name, address, confirm that the driver's licence belongs to the driver, confirm that the signature on the driver's licence is their's and confirm that the photo on the driver's licence matches the driver. Failure to do so satisfactorily can result in obstruction of a police officer and lead to the arrest of the driver. That is pretty hard to do with your window rolled up at the roadside, especially with the noise of traffic driving by. Not answering these questions means arrest until your identity is established to the satisfaction of the officer conducting the Schryver's test. Good luck not rolling your window down.
It's disgusting that advocating for oneself is considered escalating. The police are supposed to uphold the law. It's not 'feelings' enforcement!!! Instead we constantly see the opposite from 'butt hurt' officers who abuse their power.
Should there not be an obvious and documentable reason for such a stop? Where is the threshold? I can assume that the car next to me needs an oil change.....but I can't prove it before stopping them and analyzing the oil specifically. How is this judgement defined?...and how are police officers directed to enforce this? Spidey sense is tingling....
@@hearthrob300 I know...and I suggest my comment be part of some protocol. Otherwise....we are victims of the 'unwarranted sort' that like to be in charge of others.
I don't answer on principle. You're a lawyer and you're telling people why not tell them? How about because you understand how important our constitution is ,and how important our civil rights are. If you give away one right, you will give away all rights, eventually . That's why you don't answer questions or do anything that's not required by the law.
Here is a variation on the window situation. In BC the law states no window tint on the driver or passenger side windows. Once when stopped I had my drivers window all the way down & as asked to partially roll the window up so Officer could verify that my window was tinted. It was the lightest shade available & his only reason for stopping me. The irony is in our province vehicles are required to have an inspection sticker of compliance pasted on the windshield.
Good thing I managed to find the parts on Amazon to fix my driver's power window after a year with it taped up. I hadn't noticed before how many other cars have that issue.
Anyone who's offended by his advice, just keep a dash cam that can record inside the car and be able to move it as much in the direction of the officer. You should do that the first second you stop your car as he or she is walking over. This is if you want to be extra certain that you're not dealing with the wrong kind of cop. Cops these days have cameras on them and if something really terrible happened you can always report the incident and if the officer accidentally "lost or didn't record a video", then you can bet he or she will be in trouble for not following procedures. You can also choose to be polite and co operate. You're entitled to both options.
This sounds more like advice from a prosecutor than a lawyer. We have rights in Canada and a police officer who stops you at a traffic stop has NO business to know where you're coming from or going. Cops will rape your rights at every step. know your rights and fight to keep them.
You, Sir, are correct. I think the citizens at large are either ignorant about, or misguided by, the foundationless belief (and who the hell know where this stems from) that the police have either the legal, or moral, obligation to uphold and defend YOUR rights. I am not aware of any such obligations under current Canadian law. If anyone can demonstrate that I am misinformed on this point, please set me straight. The job of the police is to 'ARREST PERPETRATORS' and keep their 'STATS' up. Their interest is in justifying their jobs by keeping their management happy by making 'X' number of arrests, writing 'X' number of tickets, etc. It is the obligation of each citizen to educate THEMSELVES about their charter rights, not the obligation of ANY branch of government, least of all the very police agencies who would love nothing better than for you, a person of 'interest', to incriminate yourself by not knowing about or exercising your charter right to 'REMAIN SILENT'. Last time I was pulled over here in New Brunswick, Canada, by a member of the ever so prestigious RCMP, the officer of course asked for the usual documents (which I provided). He then asked the eternal police question, "Do you know why I pulled you over?" A question as old as time itself, and one which only a brain-injured fool with a 2nd grade education would even consider answering. My response, ...."It's a beatuful day, isn't it officer?" This was , of course followed by, "Where are you coming from?" Knowing precisely which game he was trying to play (attempting to have me implicate myself, duh!), I simply responded by saying, "I fail to see how that could possibly be germain to this conversation." He then went to his car, wrote the ticket and upon returning to my car window, ticket in hand, he carried on in his cliche, robotic-cop fashion, "Where are you headed?" I swear, it's as though these drones simply can't even help themselves. I pointed in the general direction I was already travelling along the highway and stated, "That-a-way." To this officers limited credit, he was always professional and polite during this encounter and at no point did I get the feeling that he took anything personally. He clearly understood that he was but a cog in the machine, serving his role in the government's agenda to maintain strict, and at times over-reaching, control over its citizens. Know the game, people. It's yours to win or lose.
Still vividly remember an incident from the late '90s. Pulled over for 10 Km/h over the speed limit. A 14 hr. day in -30C, and just wanted to get home. But he got pissed that I didn't fully open the window. I had a shitty day and told him" you probably had a shitty day" I just want to go home, get a few hours of sleep, before I do this again. He went to his cruiser and after a long time came back. No ticket, no warning, just him and I had time to cool down. That's why respect the RCMP. Trucker convoy changed that, but.... Peace officers, Marshalls, Sherriff, and mall cops, I'm old and got nothing to lose
Incorrect. You do not have to roll your window down for the police. You do however need show them your ID and insurance etc. You can hold it upto the glass and they can read it from there. However, this will almost certainly piss them off and they will most certainly make your day or week or year a miserable hell for not bending to their will. I recomend just being polite and making that officer like you in the first 30 seconds of your interaction. That will go much further in your favor than acting a fool to prove a point
Exactlly. Here's what I just told him: 1:29 "If you don't have anything to hide, why not tell them where you're coming from ?" ... this is the WORST lawyer advice I have ever heard. Are you sure you're a lawyer ? Cops can use ANY information against you !!! If you say "I just went to the shopping mall", one cop could say "Well we just had a report of a shoplifter in the area. Get out of the car". One question answered will always lead to another question. Furthermore, YES I have something to hide: I hide my PRIVATE LIFE. It's none of the government's business. Thumbs down.
I'm very lucky no need to do anything!! Being one of the worst offenders in Canada my license been suspended for 10 years!! So taking the PUBLIC TRANSPORT saves me lots of head-ache how to deal with cops!! No more parking tickets or seat-belt tickets or speeding tickets etc... So i live cop free!! And love it!!
You'd make Mao proud! Keep it up, and your dream might become reality, but unfortunately they'll haul you away too... So there's that, lol. You're chopping a hole in the boat and expecting to not drown! 😂 What an astoundingly limited, oxygen starved cave of truncated temporals your existence must be.
Last time I was pulled over, after providing my documents, the officer asked; "where you heading?" I pointed in the direction of my travel, and with a smile responded: "that way" There ensued a period where we just stared at each other in silence. As I continued to smile at him, he handed my license back to me and wished me a good night. You can stand up for your rights while being respectful about it. IMO
I have been driving for 56 years. I was stopped twice for speeding and because I was nice to both police officers I got a discount on my speeding fine. In writing out the ticket they reduced the speed at which I was going.
They always do that here in Quebec. I think it's a way for them to be the 'good guy' and placate drivers. It felt good the first time. After seeing it everytime, I believe it's a tactic.
LOL, they sucked you in. They only do that so you don't fight the ticket cos' you "got off light", but really, you are lining their pockets without a whimper. Always fight the ticket. May cost you an hour getting to court, but often the police don't show up and ta-da.....case dismissed.
@@Glen-j2f Not necessarily. "Must provide," simply means make the information available. It does not mean to hand it over. Holding it up to a clean window so the cop can take a picture of it so he can run your details is all that's needed. It is, however, far more polite to just be nice and hand it over.
I would just roll it down. Police can use mandatory alcohol screening and likely will if you choose not to roll it down. Once they make that demand you better comply or you get arrested. Just cooperate, let them do their job and get on with the rest of your day
Sadly, it has gotten to the point whereby citizens, for several reasons, need to wear a bodycam or have a camera in their vehicle to record interactions with police and/or others.
And even when you do record evidence, many times it's ignored by the other law enforcers, or to use this evidence you have to face huge obstructions and pay insane ans of money in legal fees
@@teddyruxspin8480 Yes it is. Look it up. It just recently changed. They supposedly changed the law around five years ago but just started enacting it this past summer. If you are stopped, for any reason, the officer has to give you a breath test. There is no discretion allowed.
I had a cop tell me once, “it’s your word against min.” To which I responded, “No sir, that is incorrect. It’s your word against my dashcam.” How a “running a stop sign” turned into a warning.
Verbally state that you are exercising your right to not answer questions. Remaining silent is not exercising your right. You MUST positively identify what you are doing. Also state "I object and protest this seizure" if you want to be able to sue in canada. If you don't say that, you consented to the seizure.
do you live in a dam hole the cops in canada are out of control and have always been out of control on some preceived power they think they have ove r the people who pay them . i was stopped 50 years ago and have disliked the cops ever since . they stopped me for cutting down a few twigs in the bush near my back yard and took my knife saw and hatchet from me and never gave it back. serve and protect my arse
You are a man and can defend yourself. I had a friend, small woman, who rolled down her window and the guy leaned in and kissed her. Another time, a woman asked to pull over and get out and look at her headlights. She complied and the guy tried to strangle her. She escaped. Both incidents occurred in Surrey, BC. Very careful while responding amiably.
I got my hair cut one day got in my truck drive to the corner, turned right and as doing so noticed a ghost car going the other way did a double look at the car and the cop looked right at me he did a uturn in a busy intersection and pulled me over. I fully believe he was having a bad day and wanted to make mine the same. Anyhow he said I was talking on my phone because it was sitting on my seat I told him no I wasn't he then gave me the choice of getting a ticket for talking on the phone or for tinted windows, I have a 15 percent window tint, you can clearly see me when the window is up. I took a ticket for tinted windows just because the cop was having a bad day. Then went and had the tint removed.
Question - In parking lots and on private property, the Highway Traffic Act of Ontario doesn't apply so you're not "required" to be buckled, have a license, stop at stop signs, not have your phone in your hands, etc... Correct?
Not necessarily. I believe if the property is, for example a mall parking lot, and normal driving rules apply or access to the driving public is permitted, then they have the ability to apply the law as if it were a public road. So, for example, if driving around the lot and you fail to stop at a stop sign, you can be ticketed just the same on the private property as if it was on the public roads.
The problem with that is the fact we don't have body worn cameras... they will always have the upper hand unless your DASHCAM is on and has a clear view or at least an unimpeded microphone. Don't let everyone know you have a dashcam also... unless you figure you can avoid injury or worst by that simple, true 'threat' of being exposed at a later date. One can be tempted to record with a phone but looking in your pockets and fidgeting away before the cops approach isn't the best of idea... you do you tho, just my opinion
As a female, I have been stopped at night. The hi flash light in my face without being able to see the officer made me feel particularly uncomfortable. I told the officer I would be willing to go to the station, if they wanted to follow me but Im not doing anything at 1 am. I did go to the station, they didn't follow. The station officer had no officers at the intersection I had been stopped at. I'm a retired officer and anyone could have a fake uniform. No trust at night.
I was out in a soccer field with my tripod and binoculars late at night doing some astronomy. Walking home..an officer pulled up quickly beside me. She was friendly..and asked where I was coming from. I didn't answer. I just asked if i'm being arrested for anything. Another officer arrivied..and a third...and...other then providing my name and address..and them trying to get me say where I'm coming from/going too.I just asked if I'm being arrested for something. I heard an officer say to another they found a suspect along such and such. The officers told me to have a good night. Always made me wonder...if I was walking past a crime...and I said I was walking down that street..... I will never answer an officer a question where I was/am going..unless I am being ordered too..and will outright ask if I'm being ordered to answer.
I was stopped for a sobriety check in Ontario. The officer said he saw me coming from a strip mall that had a bar in it. They followed me for 6 blocks in an undercover truck. They stopped me 40 ft from my house. I stated I was in the store getting ice cream. He kept asking if I was drinking 5 times and I answered no every time no. I finally said get the breathalyser and let's see. That stopped the BADGERING!
It's simple... Put my van in park Roll down my window Turn off my van Put my hands on the wheel Wait for instruction Never a problem in Canada or the USA. Simple and easy. The only ones who don't roll down their windows and give flack back are the ones who are up to some sh*t and/or have something to hide. People all too often make a traffic stop way more difficult than it has to be.
Also, the officer only needs reasonable suspicion to demand an approved screening device breath sample. That means any moving violation (not signaling a lane change, weaving in the driving lane, driving fast, driving slow etc) coupled with not rolling your window down is reasonable suspicion. Which means you will have to step out of the vehicle and provide a breath sample into an approved screening device. Failure to do so means immediate impoundment of your vehicle and criminal charges. It's got nothing to do with getting the officer angry, it has everything to do with the driver being an asshat. Good luck.
I couldn't disagree more with your statement to tell them where you're coming from if you have nothing to hide. Are you a former cop by chance? NEVER give cops any more information than your license, insurance and ownership because once you open your mouth they will twist it and use it against you. Worst advice ever.
why would I tell them were I am going or were I came from if I am not drinking etc... that is the problem rules become laws... they are not our friends.. their soul job is to lay charges
You are such a nice polite Canadian. Not me. I am an award-winning professional. They have inconveniently interfered with my private time. People don't get enough privacy these days. I don't speed. Before I get in my vehicle I make sure it is safe.
One thing not being considered here is that many people have their front windows tinted too dark, past the legal limit. If the police cannot see the driver or passenger clearly, the vehicle operator has placed the officer in a defensive situation. Unfortunately, the criminal element in Canada has changed quite a bit in the past decade and they are ready, willing, and able to assault police with deadly force. I do not envy an officer approaching a vehicle with dark tinted windows that are rolled all the way up.
You're so right and in most cases that's why police want your windows rolled down. The other side of that coin is if your driver's side window is tinted too dark (illegal) you're likely going to be ticketed for that as well. Tinting allowances vary from province to province so what's considered legal in Ontario may very well be illegal in Alberta/BC.
@@beerfanboy Yes exactly. Many police vehicles are modified under exemptions that are legal. Very much "rules for thee but not for me" but legally permitted.
"If you got nothing to hide"???...it seems your sageous council is, "Comply or suffer the consequences"... Is that the country we live in, "Expect police to be unscrupulous, ready and willing to violate their oath of office to treat citizens with respect and courtesy... INSUBBING you cop bootlicker
What about in Alberta where they have mandatory roadside breathalyzers? They literally come up and shove it in your face no matter the reason for the stop. What about at checkstops?
I was so nervous by being pulled over by police, and I was doing everything he said.. he actually helped find stuff lol .. some people are just good people and getting pulled over when you are not a criminal, makes you nervous as h3ll lol.. just be nice and they are OK to you. (With multiple copies of ins. in car, I couldn't find the current one and wasn't sure where to look for dates cuz I was flustered.)
This isn't really the point though. Canadian laws are vague and Canadians are normally good-natured folks, so the old chestnut of "nothing to hide" compliance simply means that your rights - what few we seem to have left - are being eroded. The police being able to pull you over for whatever (or even NO) reason whatsoever is very concerning and is such an erosion on the right to just go about your business without fear of harassment that it is scarcely believable that it is present in Canada not Soviet Russia.
In the US, there are videos where the person provides the documents but does not hand them through the window. In Canada, is there a requirement that they physically can hold it?
Why does a citizen have to be polite and bow down to the cops? Why’s that considered escalating the situation? I get that we are screwed over by having to be stopped by a cop when you’ve done nothing wrong and the cop just wants to use his authority to go on a power trip. I open my window to a maximum of 4 inches and if the cop doesn’t like that then he can escalate the situation but I’m filming him and his actions and I would hold every cop involved accountable if any of my Rights are challenged or violated by the cops. You should be telling everyone TO ALWAYS FILM THE POLICE, NEVER TALK TO THE POLICE UNLESS ANSWERING QUESTIONS TGAT YOU ARE LEGALLY REQUIRED TO ANSWER. IM NOT IGNORANT TO THE COPS BUT IM ALSO NOT GOING TO HAVE MY RIGHTS VIOLATED BY ANY CANADIAN COP. AND THE ORGANIZATION THAT INVESTIGATES COP COMPLAINTS ARE USELESS BECAUSE THEY BACK THE BLUE. WE NEED TO HAVE NON LAW ENFORCEMENT INDIVIDUALS INVESTIGATING THE POLICE WHEN IT COMES TO COMPLAINTS AS THEY ARE NOT PART OF THE BLUE LINE GANGS TGAT WE HAVE HERE IN ONTARIO AND ACROSS CANADA.
Because we pay taxes that pay the cops, so the longer you keep the cop busy, the longer he is not actually chasing criminals. Be efficient, save your taxpayer money.
Don't mix to be polite and to bow down, 2 very different things. I'm polite, but zi don't bow for no one. If you are intercepted often, just ask yourself why, this can help your situation
Here in Canada the police can give you a breathalyzer test for no reason. So you don't roll the window down, bang they then have you step out if the car and provide a breath sample. Thank Trudeau for that law.
Correct. And oh, it's much worse than that. If you have driven home and sat down and during the course of a couple of hours had a couple of glasses of whiskey, and a cop knocks on your door and accuses you of drinking and driving and demands you to provide a breath analyzer sample, if you refuse, he now has the right to charge you with drinking while under the influence. It's unfuckenbelievable, yet it's already happened to people in Toronto. So ya, thank Trudeau for that.
From the comments, it seems clear that some people are confusing rights with privileges. In Canada driving is not a right. It is a privilege granted once you complete certain requirements and your continued driving is based on you obeying many laws and regulations. Even if we don't like it, police in Canada can pull you over for almost any reason. In my town, I've been stopped twice at checkpoints set up just to check registrations. You'd think the police would have more important things to do than allocate 6-8 officers for a two-way checkpoint just to look at registrations. So clearly they can pull you over for minor registration issues or even just to check. You don't need to envision an officer getting angry or being crooked to understand why s/he might think there is something more happening if you don't lower your window. I recently crossed into the States and at the border crossing the guard asked me to lower my back window. That made perfect sense to me and I did. Upon returning to Canada, I lowered both as I drove up to the booth. Maybe a minute later I was on my way back into Canada. If I'm stopped by the police on the highway in the future, assuming the weather isn't terrible, I'll do the same and open both windows. Now some of the comments below do seem to understand this and are referring instead to their right to privacy and right to not self-incriminate. In that case they could refuse to not say anything about where they were or where they are going but that would not likely be acceptable to not rolling down the window upon request. And even if NOT talking to the officers is your right, there is nothing to say that might not raise suspicions with the officer. S/he might have suspected minor alcohol or marijuana but not enough to test or charge you but you shutting up, be it your right or not, could make that officer think there is more happening than there really is. After all this is there job in almost every interaction with the public. They interact for some reason but are always alert to any other potential illegal activities.
A lot of people in the comments don't seem to understand the purpose of the police. If they ask you where you are coming from, they likely want to know whether you've been drinking (coming from a bar, party at friends', etc). I personally am glad they are weeding out drunk drivers. The one time this happened to me I told them I was coming back from dinner at a friend's and their follow up question was "did you have anything to drink?" And I said "yes, I had a glass of wine" and they said "just one glass?" And I said "yes, just one glass, I'm not a big drinker" and they said "ok thanks for your time, get home safe" and I was on my way.
What about deep freeze conditions or very strong downpours!?!? I’ve handed my papers through a very small crack before. I’m not putting my health in danger for the cops making his quotas.
@@dhache1195 cant defend ourselves or family, cant defend our home, Cops can pull you over for no reason at anytime, look what happened during covid, less and less free speech on the web. No way of holding government accountably. just a few of the bigger ones.
They're asking questions so you'll speak revealing whether or not they can detect alcohol or marijuana on your breath. Have a look at your eyes to see if they're "fixed and dilated." These are early indicators as how to proceed
I think the only ones that are worried about being non-compliant are the criminals maybe they haven't been caught yet and they certainly don't want to be it's all a question of attitude all you have to do is comply and go on your way if you have done nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about
Thanks for the information. Just noticed this channel and I'd like to watch so I'm more informed about all the topics. Canadian Law is very interesting and its a Canadian's duty to understand Canadian Laws as best they can. If I may add a point though, Joseph Goebbels coined the phrase: "If you have nothing to fear, you have nothing to hide." -which sounds much like the "If you have nothing to hide.." -I would hope in 2024 we all know who this man was. A simple reason not to answer all manners of questions that police officers ask (can and do) is that they shouldn't be asking those questions unless they suspect you of crime. Which increasingly they are using just to find something to charge you with. I've never committed a crime but I've been through stops many times where I made to feel guilty (for something other than going 10 KMs over the speed limit on a rural highway) by this line of questioning. It's un-nerving and sets the precedent for officers to behave in this manner.
So the public has to accept that the police "may be unethical". Got it.
His advice is like the Toronto cops. Leave your keys by the front door so the thieves can steal your car easier.
For real, this lawyers advice is just let him do it or he might get mad at you. I mistakenly thought this clip might have answered the question it posed.
@@steve2070 It did answer it. You have to roll down your window enough to provide documents and provide those documents, that's the law.
The part about not getting an armed cop mad at you was just life advice based on all the people who end up in jail with planted drugs, or shot (though that is obviously rarer than in the US).
@MoriguTheDead people are cucks and we end up more and more under the heel of the police enforcement. Good thing brave men sacrificed so much to defend the very Rights and Freedoms that pussies are so weak to hand over to the State because that's "life advice".
Just obey the state forever.
I use to wonder how the German people could allow a small group of cops to rule the nation. Seeing the state of "men" today, I see why!
they get maaaaaad when they don't get their way; they will lie, threaten, intimidate, bully, and in the end can take away your rights or life. Dashcams can save you from other drivers and police at the same time
I Respectfully disagree. If a police officer gets mad at you for not rolling the window down all the way,
or for not telling him irrelevant details, like where you are going, then it is HE who is Escalating, not YOU.
There is something fundamentally WRONG if a Police Officer escalates because you assert YOUR Rights
This lawyer is a former prosecutor !! He says so on the homepage of his website. Are you surprised ? Also, I invite you to read the comment I posted.
The emphasis for EVERY police interaction is, don't make them mad.
Low IQ people had low impulse control. Proof that if you have no marketable skills. You can always become a police officer
This is only YOUR opinion, by no mean a legal point of view
@@dhache1195 IT IS a legal point of view since there are case laws about precisely that. Again, you show your ignorance.
@power2084 so, list here every relevant files you may have 😉
After going to a coffee shop at 2:30am on a quiet mid week stop before having to work a 12hr shift The police officer was sitting in the parking lot And followed me We drove 6 blocks before the officer turned on the lights And i pulled over...Knowing i done nothing wrong All my info was up to date (lic,ins,ownership etc) I turned off my car, turned on the interior light rolled the window down about 3 fingers width Officer comes with the flash light "Roll your window down all the way" - No sir its fine there i can hear you fine And you can hear me. Is there a problem? "Yeah you ran the red light back there" Ah no sir it was yellow as i entered the intersection. It was only red when you entered the intersection 5 car lengths behind me He proceeds to shine the light around "Are you lost?" No why ? "whats with the GPS?" Thats not a GPS sir that is a duel DVR camera that records my driving front and rear It will clearly show I entered the intersection on a yellow And your car on the red with no lights or siren active.....Officer says : "I will be with you in a moment sit tight" Comes back with my ID ..."I will only let you off with a warning this time Be more aware of your driving"..Now i could of been a smart ass And asked for the ticket And etc etc But we both knew i was in the right And had proof Where had i not had the camera I would of been screwed Aside from following me around ...Had i actually ran the red....You do not tell the cop you have a document to better help his case lol
dash cams are great , i got rear ended and a guy had it on his cam - 100% not my fault . with icbc
it helped out my clami - saved everyone some money really
@@freakyflow good handling of the situation. Assuming you were driving calm at night he is in the right here. Generally is the rule to not cause emergency braking before the intersection and to finish the turn if you are thee already. "You can legally enter an intersection during a yellow (amber) light, but only if it is unsafe to stop before the light turns red. If you are too close to the intersection to stop safely when the light turns yellow, you are permitted to proceed through".
@@degvello21 I was already on the stop mark when it turned yellow He was on the mark as it was red ...I should of keep the video And uploaded it to youtube
Priceless..LOL!
Just last week I hit a red light, and a cop to my left turned left. So when the light turned green, I was behind him. He was doing about 10km/h SLOWER than the speed limit as I began to catch up. That arsehole wanted me to pass him. I ride a motorcycle, and don’t tell me we aren’t profiled. I work a late shift, coming home at the same time the bars close. Just because I ride a bike doesn’t mean I was at a bar(no reason to run my plate when the weather is still nice).
So on one hand, I kind of get their vigilance, but on the other hand, I can’t count how many times I’ve watched the po-po make illegal maneuvers without their lights on. Illegal u-turns, running reds, etc. And I’ve been followed multiple times just riding home from work at ~02:00, my normal commute. They’re looking for a reason to pull you over, don’t give them one.
The po-po are not your friend, they will never be. However, my personal advice is to not escalate the situation(as per this video). Be aware of your personal circumstances, and don’t offer up anything that could be incriminating, but don’t hide anything that doesn’t need to be hidden. “Have you had anything to drink”? With an UNOPENED bottle in the back seat, “no sir, I’m just coming home from work”. Hell, give them the general direction of work, don’t mention the bottle, and just let them read home address off the license.
We have no rights here in China.
Heil Kaiser!
Out Priminister aspires to developing a system like Yours in China
Canada = N.Korea very soon.
We have the illusion of rights here in Canada.
@@andrerogers9961 a right is not a right if they can take it away in an 'Emergency'.
Why would we need to walk on eggshells around the police like they are an abusive spouse?
Okay, when your window is already rolled down a little bit and a police officer asks you to roll it down more.They are the ones that have just escalated, not you by refusing
The emphasis for EVERY police interaction is, don't make them mad.
Low IQ people had low impulse control. Proof that if you have no marketable skills. You can always become a police officer
like how much a quarter of an inch? BTW overthinkingmakesyoustupid
@@Goodnightandgoodluck-c7m there is no law in canada.That states, you have to roll down your window during a traffic stop
@@Goodnightandgoodluck-c7m It only needs to be down far enough to pass papers through the gap. No further.
What’s the definition of providing your license?
Is it showing it to him or actually physically letting him take it away from your control?
If some stranger ask your daughter the same questions...are you still comfortable with this advice!? FTP ALWAYS!
Film The Police!
For The People!
And don't talk to armed strangers!
And get a new lawyer!
certainly don't get THIS lawyer. Here's my comment I posted above: 1:29 "If you don't have anything to hide, why not tell them where you're coming from ?" ... this is the WORST lawyer advice I have ever heard. Are you sure you're a lawyer ? Cops can use ANY information against you !!! If you say "I just went to the shopping mall", one cop could say "Well we just had a report of a shoplifter in the area. Get out of the car". One question answered will always lead to another question. Furthermore, YES I have something to hide: I hide my PRIVATE LIFE. It's none of the government's business. Thumbs down.
@@power2084 Right" its the worst advice I've ever heard!
"if you got nothing to hide, why don't you just tell them where you are coming from."
I can't believe a lawyer just said that. It's like you have not even a cursory understanding of your own profession.
Cops are steroidal. This must always be taken into consideration.. dweeb.
The lawyer gave GOOD advise. Look, stupid. When you've been stopped by police, THEY HAVE ALL THE POWER AT THAT MOMENT IN TIME.
Sure, you have RIGHTS but unless you're just itching for a fight, WHICH YOU WILL LOSE AT THAT MOMENT, why not just answer the question?
You'll be on your way in a minute.
Start a fight... and you could be DELAYED for a DAY OR TWO... cooling your heels in a cell until you can get to court.
Only REALLY STUPID PEOPLE do stuff that will get themselves arrested. REALLY STUPID PEOPLE.
Smart people, when they get annoyed enough at unfair treatment, complain to those who can do something about it... like your MP... or better yet... get yourself elected and work to change the law. But until then... moron... use what few brains you have... and cooperate. You catch many more flies with HONEY than with VINEGAR.
Sadly most Canadians think like that. Probably why they’re in such a sad state
@@markusk1015
If to assume I will NOT be ABUSED by my own government or it's agents (police, etc.) puts my in some sort of "sad state" then...
I'M SURE GLAD I'M IN IT.
I'm now 85 and have been pulled over perhaps a half dozen times in my life, usually for speeding. I've NEVER had anything but polite and fair treatment from police. Why?
Because I didn't act like some self-important, entitled, hostile asshole like I often see in these traffic stop videos on RUclips.
If YOU were a cop and some jerkoff with a shitload of attitude started mouthing off at you, WHAT WOULD YOU DO?
I am confused - we the public have to manage the cop’s emotional state so he doesn’t shoot us? Seems to me standing on our charter rights should not have to be OK’ed by cops looking for a reason to escalate.
I posted the following comment : 1:29 "If you don't have anything to hide, why not tell them where you're coming from ?" ... this is the WORST lawyer advice I have ever heard. Are you sure you're a lawyer ? Cops can use ANY information against you !!! If you say "I just went to the shopping mall", one cop could say "Well we just had a report of a shoplifter in the area. Get out of the car". One question answered will always lead to another question. Furthermore, YES I have something to hide: I hide my PRIVATE LIFE. It's none of the government's business. Thumbs down.
If you are in USA, it is different
We don’t live anymore in a democracy. May as well have Putin as prime minister 😡
@joannedeepsheep8161
Canada is politically still quite far from Russia and Putin
@@dhache1195 not for long, it's becoming China becuz of Trudeau.
Love this channel so much. Makes me want to leave Canada.
I'm old enough to remember when our neighbors to the north lived in a free country.
amen, brother. Canada is a fully communist country these days and the cucks in the comments agree. They love licking big brothers nuts.
When I was a kid, if a cop came by the house in the course of doing his job, you treated him like everybody else: you greeted/her at the door, invited him/her inside, and enjoyed a snack while you discussed whatever was being investigated.
if you could be helpful, you were. Because chances are the cop was just another human being in the community, dealing in good faith. They weren’t out to get somebody or trap somebody unnecessarily.
It was real and honest policing, And the community probably wouldn’t have put up with tyranny.
By the time I was old enough to work there, for the most part, cops only had each other for friends. Most were good people; We didn’t get much free time, but could enjoy a barbeque or a party together or do fitness training in the workout room together.
there would be the odd one who was basically overcompensating and fearful in there every day performance of the job. Generally nice guys, but everybody knew that the defensiveness and fear with which he did his job meant that he was most likely to be beaten the hell up or to overreact. two times in my lifetime, I have known guys like that. A person has to wonder why those guys got into law-enforcement. And you can tell by looking. They are the guys that spend way too much time in the weight room, so they’re over built, and are absolutely enormous, to look as intimidating as possible. and the flashlight they carry it’s not a nice little maglight A reasonable size that everybody else carries, but instead something half the size of a baseball bat. And it weighs a metric ton.
everybody else in life gets into a fight or two, takes a few knocks, and then sees that it’s not such a big deal, so they’re over the fear, but not these guys. They never get over it.
and then there was the slimeball type. I only met one like that, and had to work with him, but it wasn’t too long before the guy had to be put in check. He was the type that would be inappropriate in a big way with women, Especially if he perceived her to be without a friend in the world or financial resources. Really maybe they weren’t safe with him. these guys tend to think they’re above the law, but also hiding what they’re doing. It doesn’t take too long before people start wonder about him; The decent people that he works with, will generally figure that out pretty quickly, and he’ll find himself on the receiving end of charges in short order.
I don’t know if I know anybody nowadays that would invite a “peace officer” in automatically if one knocked at the door. Especially after what we saw During the trucker protest.
In terms of defensive documentation with electronics, we live in a time when a person has a fighting chance these days.
Thank God.
@@daphneraven6745 I share your sentiment and appreciate your observations.
women can go topless here. check and mate ;)
I'm 74 and remember nazi cops.
None of their business where I'm coming from
He's probably the worst lawyer in Canada.
@@power2084 careful, this lawyer deletes youtube comments
@@TonTonTon140 he probably does !
@@power2084 you’re basing that on what , personal experience or do you just know things?
@@redeyedmongoose2963 maybe you could be more precise in your question, 'cuz I made 2 replies.
So in other words we are supposed to kiss their ass because in Canada when you are driving you have no rights
Yes, Dennis, you are right. Here's my comment that I posted above: 1:29 "If you don't have anything to hide, why not tell them where you're coming from ?" ... this is the WORST lawyer advice I have ever heard. Are you sure you're a lawyer ? Cops can use ANY information against you !!! If you say "I just went to the shopping mall", one cop could say "Well we just had a report of a shoplifter in the area. Get out of the car". One question answered will always lead to another question. Furthermore, YES I have something to hide: I hide my PRIVATE LIFE. It's none of the government's business. Thumbs down.
@@power2084 He subtly clarified that if he did have something to hide, he would lie to them. Calm down. This guy bashes the Canadian legal system and the police every chance he gets, because he's on the side of civil rights.
@@atheopagan number 1: he's a former prosecutor. Dont be fooled. Number 2: ANY lawyer will always tell their client, or the general public, these 3 things: a) Dont talk to police b) never answer any question, dont make any statement. c) Invoke your right to remain silent. All these things are the VERY BASIC of being a defense lawyer. This 🤡 is telling people to answer police questions !!
@@power2084 Prosecutors are shitty lawyers that can't try a case and make a living in a private firm. The fact that he moved on tells you something.
If you are "intercepted," there is a reason. If you want to argue or play the "I know my rights" game, prepare yourself to answer more questions
In almost every single video, this guy is like: “Unfortunately, unliked the United States, we don't really have any rights in Canada.” And he's correct.
That should be changed.
Of course we have rights. They're just different from what Usanians are used to.
We ARE a completely different country, you know...
We do have rights. But unlike the US, most police here are ethical.
You guys are naïve. No one has rights. That’s a fact.
@@wingguy1 The veracity of your opinion will depend on how you define two words: rights and facts.
If a police officer is easily angered, they are in the wrong profession.
That's most of them.
After having witnessed a billion youtube videos, both of the cops very own body-cam footage and various other video sources, as the police conduct their many questionable 'activities', I was once convinced that the screening process for agencies attempting to hire police officers was either flawed or somehow lacking a critical component. If ever there was a job whose description would seemingly necessitate deep psychological analysis of its participants prior to the participants being hired and issued a badge, a gun, and special powers under the law to effect detainment and arrest of citizens, then 'police officer' would be at the top of my list. However, of the police officers I've known (on a personal level, not through police interractions) not one of them has ever confirmed that they underwent anything even resembling a psychological screening process of ANY kind.
Of the multitude of videos to which I have alluded, it is a scant few percent where in later comments it is revealed that the police officer's very criminal and unconstituional actions, some of which resulted in permanent and/or life-altering injuries, or death, of the 'suspect', were found to have resulted in sanctions of any sort whatsoever against the offending officer(s). This fact alone is indicative not of a problem whereby a small percentage of police officers are clearly psychopaths with a badge and a gun, but rather is indicative that these police officer's supervisors, and their supervisors,.....and THEIR supervisors are all complicit in what could reasonably be considered, at the very least, a level of criminal negligence for not having adequately vetted these mentally unstable, and constitutionally unschooled, drones.
That being said, bear in mind that is the best case scenario. That is to say,.....what if these outcomes aren't the result of mere negligence? What if it's not merely the result of a level of indifference within the multiple levels of government and local police administration? What if these outcomes are the intended result of an intentional hiring process whereby those in authority have deliberately sought to hire and indoctrinate precisely the kind of psychopathic, keen to blindly follow orders, barely literate, and maladjusted former highschool bully victims, who seem to occupy the positions depicted. At this time I am infinitely more inclined to believe that latter over former.
Well cops are paid via theft (taxation), so a crime is already underway just by having cops.
In Canada we have this thing called Winter. It gets very cold in Winter. Can anyone think of a perfectly valid reason why in Winter a driver might not want to open their window any further than necessary to hand over documents? The cop has to do their job in Winter, they are going to get cold. It is their discretion whether to pull you over or not, to give a warning or not. No reason I should have to freeze my arse off because of a decision by a police officer.
the few times ive been stopped in winter the cops never said boo about window only partially opened
you listening it wrong .. he didn't say don't do it .. he said use your head and don't be an ass to the police officer ... and yes .. I got pissed to get the most expensive dozen of eggs in town because they charged me with "license plate obstruction" .. well. . lesson is don't put the blue lights with dark cover and already damaged place .. :D But it's in't his fault that the scaner poped on my car when he was following .. Can things go south and you lucky with hm .. not really polite person - obviously yes ... never happen to me thought ... always met a good guys ... should you escalate ? I don't think so ... stupidly and overly crazy reason would be is ... just forget they are policy and think about it this way, why would you be ass to the guy with a gun and if you expect it to go easy then :)
what is reasonable ; is going to be commonly understood , if that is the intention
Lame excuse. You’re still required to provide your documents when asked. Being difficult just raises the suspicion of an officer who can find all sorts of reasons to investigate you further. You want to be the smart ass who puts a spotlight on yourself?! Use your head
@@phoqt00b - yes, there is.
Your argument has never held water in court. Police are tasked with enforcing law, citizens are legally required to obey laws.
Cold in the winter is not a mitigating factor, however, it will draw very unwanted attention should you attempt to obstruct a police officer from a very reasonable and legalmdemand. Obstruction carries penalties.
Get pulled over, and your driving?
The HTA no matter the province or territory directs you to provide ID, insurance and ownership. In order to surrender them, you must open the window, even if only slightly.
Law doesnt involve feelings, just facts.
Thumbs down. 1:29 "If you don't have anything to hide, why not tell them where you're coming from ?" ... this is the WORST lawyer advice I have ever heard. Are you sure you're a lawyer ? Cops can use ANY information against you !!! If you say "I just went to the shopping mall", one cop could say "Well we just had a report of a shoplifter in the area. Get out of the car". One question answered will always lead to another question. Furthermore, YES I have something to hide: I hide my PRIVATE LIFE. It's none of the government's business. Thumbs down.
Agreed, I can't believe this guy said that
lol I paused at the 1:39 mark to check comments for this and sure enough!
Not going to be too hard as we're all learning (even RUclipsrs) but I agree with the OP, say nothing except echoing your right to remain silent. Any officer with integrity will respect you doing so. Any officer that gets offended by it is one of the bad ones. Careful.
Example: You say you're just coming from 2 blocks down from a friends house and by chance there was just a murder and you fit a loose description of the guy fleeing. Guess how much your life just changed?
@@EBackwards guess what...this "lawyer" is also a former prosecutor. He says so on the homepage of his website.
@@EBackwards Lawyers just want to get paid as well, so you should take a youtube lawyers advice with a huge grain of salt regardless. Cops will be paid regardless, lawyers get paid when you 'need' them.
I’m Covid adverse, and immune compromised. They can take a photo of my credentials through my window. As a single woman I’m never rolling down my window completely- just enough for us to hear each other. I’ve watched too many serial killer/cop impersonator videos. No thanks.
Cops like to profile and fish. I was once driving in my van on a main street of a city. Cops pulled beside me, saw me with long hair and a leather jacket. they pulled back behind me then hit the lights.I was not speeding or nothing. Their excuse was that one of my two light bulbs in my back bumper that illuminates the license plate was burned out. This was broad daylight. They were hoping too see something.
Guilty for having long hair!!!!
I got pulled over on the 401, Christmas Day for doing the speed limit. It was perfect weather and hardly any traffic. The cop asked where I was going and why I was driving so slow. I said, “I’m a school bus driver and enjoyed the drive. I always drive the limit as long as I’m not impeding traffic as is the case today.” He wished me a merry Christmas and that was it.
"I got pulled over on the 401, Christmas Day for doing the speed limit". THAT'S a problem!!! I trust that after this 'encounter', whereupon you obtained the name and badge number of this 'road-pirate', you then proceeded to file an official complaint with this imbecile's superiors? What sort of a country do we live in where a gun-toting, jack-booted thug can simply pull you over and harass your for the crime of,.......driving the posted speed limit? Talk about abuse of authority!! And people wonder why citizens say, "Fuck the police!" Infuriating.
In Alberta it's mandatory for the police to do a breathalyzer test so you're rolling down your windows or getting charged.
although not mandatory in Ontario, they can do a breathalyzer on the spot, no suspicion required. I was blown away by this new legislation. I drive commercial and was pulled in a pull off doing a load check and one rolled up and put the thing in my face. I checked into it and they can do it. We’re being trampled on .
I roll both windows down. Try to hide my illegal tinted windows 😆😆😆😆
Very smart, as they cannot demand that you roll them back up !
The cop asks , where were you coming from and you tell him , the bank , and that bank was robbed 2 minutes after you left, the cop will arrest you and now it’s on you to prove your innocence so now you have to get this lawyer , who wants your money.
Or say “ I don’t answer questions “
Basically the advice is walk on eggshells and let the cop do whatever they want. I'm not comfortable with that. Why have any rights "if you have nothing to hide"?
Here is one question that I would like to answer. The motor vehicle act says that you must produce a document. Do the police have the right to take your documents back to their car? To me that is surrendering your documents.
And it's providing discriminating evidence, and to remain silent means not to provide any documents as well as keeping your mouth shut.
Perhaps this lawyer should see the RUclips videos regarding the Toronto Police Department.
Give them your license and insurance and any other questions they ask respond with "I don't answer questions"
My standard response to "where are you coming from?" Or "where are you going?" Is, "I don't see how that's any of your business ". Gets them riled up, but I don't care. It usually followed with "i don't answer questions, am i being detained? If so i request legal counsel and i can't afford it". Only once in 30 years has it ended with anything but "have a nice day sir"
I let them know that I know my rights. I also let them know that their personal opinion of me is none of my business. Time is money and I will sue, I have a weak heart and a good lawyer. Record everything all the time by all means possible.
It's strange that exercising my rights is suspicious and "being difficult". Perhaps if more people exercised their right to silence, kept their privacy and didn't follow unlawful orders, the Canadian police wouldn't incorrectly make assumptions about being guilt of things tthatey are not related to the stop.
Perhaps you like talking to people that arrest your progress and interrupt your peace and expect you to talk as if you know and like them. Weirdo.
I dont pretend or remotely kiss anybody's ass. They ( police ) are mostly sad to say power trippn bullies . Gangs with a badge! I respect what they took an oath too & there are some good cops which we need . Best Approach, try to keep waters calm but know ur rights.
@@mikenicholas1019 Shouldn't have to do more then is necessary as per the law . It shouldn't matter if the waters are calm or not, rights are rights, bullying is bullying and power tripping is just that .
@@cm9748
If you believe to be "bullied" by police because they intercepted you about your wrongdoing, ask yourself why
@@dhache1195 my case is in your point. Your pre-concieved notion that 'you' which you mean is me, is guilty of something. My chartered rights and freedoms are supposed to be in-alienable and every Canadian has a right to live free from harassment . Throw your rights away, but leave mine alone.
In BC, the Schryvers Test mandates that the driver has to state their name, address, confirm that the driver's licence belongs to the driver, confirm that the signature on the driver's licence is their's and confirm that the photo on the driver's licence matches the driver. Failure to do so satisfactorily can result in obstruction of a police officer and lead to the arrest of the driver. That is pretty hard to do with your window rolled up at the roadside, especially with the noise of traffic driving by. Not answering these questions means arrest until your identity is established to the satisfaction of the officer conducting the Schryver's test. Good luck not rolling your window down.
Can you cite any law that says you have to roll the window all the way down?
Police and Protective Service always want to escalate
It would be useful if you could cite court cases to backup your advice.
It's disgusting that advocating for oneself is considered escalating. The police are supposed to uphold the law. It's not 'feelings' enforcement!!! Instead we constantly see the opposite from 'butt hurt' officers who abuse their power.
Yeah. Did you happen to watch any of the footage taken by every day people in the streets during the trucker protest?
Even in winter it’s easy to roll down a non frozen window. We crossed the boarder in 2009 and it was -50 outside, still rolled the window down
The right to stay silent
Should there not be an obvious and documentable reason for such a stop? Where is the threshold? I can assume that the car next to me needs an oil change.....but I can't prove it before stopping them and analyzing the oil specifically. How is this judgement defined?...and how are police officers directed to enforce this? Spidey sense is tingling....
In essence he is saying a police who has a vendetta against you can pull you over twice per day 7 days a week for any reason he chooses.
@@hearthrob300 I know...and I suggest my comment be part of some protocol. Otherwise....we are victims of the 'unwarranted sort' that like to be in charge of others.
I don't answer on principle. You're a lawyer and you're telling people why not tell them? How about because you understand how important our constitution is ,and how important our civil rights are. If you give away one right, you will give away all rights, eventually . That's why you don't answer questions or do anything that's not required by the law.
Here is a variation on the window situation. In BC the law states no window tint on the driver or passenger side windows. Once when stopped I had my drivers window all the way down & as asked to partially roll the window up so Officer could verify that my window was tinted. It was the lightest shade available & his only reason for stopping me. The irony is in our province vehicles are required to have an inspection sticker of compliance pasted on the windshield.
A compromise could be this: When the police officer asks questions such as: Where are you coming from / Going to? Reply with ; why do you ask?
Good thing I managed to find the parts on Amazon to fix my driver's power window after a year with it taped up. I hadn't noticed before how many other cars have that issue.
Anyone who's offended by his advice, just keep a dash cam that can record inside the car and be able to move it as much in the direction of the officer. You should do that the first second you stop your car as he or she is walking over. This is if you want to be extra certain that you're not dealing with the wrong kind of cop. Cops these days have cameras on them and if something really terrible happened you can always report the incident and if the officer accidentally "lost or didn't record a video", then you can bet he or she will be in trouble for not following procedures. You can also choose to be polite and co operate. You're entitled to both options.
This sounds more like advice from a prosecutor than a lawyer. We have rights in Canada and a police officer who stops you at a traffic stop has NO business to know where you're coming from or going. Cops will rape your rights at every step. know your rights and fight to keep them.
You, Sir, are correct. I think the citizens at large are either ignorant about, or misguided by, the foundationless belief (and who the hell know where this stems from) that the police have either the legal, or moral, obligation to uphold and defend YOUR rights. I am not aware of any such obligations under current Canadian law. If anyone can demonstrate that I am misinformed on this point, please set me straight. The job of the police is to 'ARREST PERPETRATORS' and keep their 'STATS' up. Their interest is in justifying their jobs by keeping their management happy by making 'X' number of arrests, writing 'X' number of tickets, etc. It is the obligation of each citizen to educate THEMSELVES about their charter rights, not the obligation of ANY branch of government, least of all the very police agencies who would love nothing better than for you, a person of 'interest', to incriminate yourself by not knowing about or exercising your charter right to 'REMAIN SILENT'.
Last time I was pulled over here in New Brunswick, Canada, by a member of the ever so prestigious RCMP, the officer of course asked for the usual documents (which I provided). He then asked the eternal police question, "Do you know why I pulled you over?" A question as old as time itself, and one which only a brain-injured fool with a 2nd grade education would even consider answering. My response, ...."It's a beatuful day, isn't it officer?" This was , of course followed by, "Where are you coming from?" Knowing precisely which game he was trying to play (attempting to have me implicate myself, duh!), I simply responded by saying, "I fail to see how that could possibly be germain to this conversation." He then went to his car, wrote the ticket and upon returning to my car window, ticket in hand, he carried on in his cliche, robotic-cop fashion, "Where are you headed?" I swear, it's as though these drones simply can't even help themselves. I pointed in the general direction I was already travelling along the highway and stated, "That-a-way."
To this officers limited credit, he was always professional and polite during this encounter and at no point did I get the feeling that he took anything personally. He clearly understood that he was but a cog in the machine, serving his role in the government's agenda to maintain strict, and at times over-reaching, control over its citizens. Know the game, people. It's yours to win or lose.
Still vividly remember an incident from the late '90s. Pulled over for 10 Km/h over the speed limit. A 14 hr. day in -30C, and just wanted to get home. But he got pissed that I didn't fully open the window. I had a shitty day and told him" you probably had a shitty day" I just want to go home, get a few hours of sleep, before I do this again. He went to his cruiser and after a long time came back. No ticket, no warning, just him and I had time to cool down. That's why respect the RCMP. Trucker convoy changed that, but.... Peace officers, Marshalls, Sherriff, and mall cops, I'm old and got nothing to lose
Incorrect. You do not have to roll your window down for the police. You do however need show them your ID and insurance etc. You can hold it upto the glass and they can read it from there. However, this will almost certainly piss them off and they will most certainly make your day or week or year a miserable hell for not bending to their will.
I recomend just being polite and making that officer like you in the first 30 seconds of your interaction. That will go much further in your favor than acting a fool to prove a point
Sorry. Where I'm coming from , where I'm going ... none of their damn business.
Exactlly. Here's what I just told him: 1:29 "If you don't have anything to hide, why not tell them where you're coming from ?" ... this is the WORST lawyer advice I have ever heard. Are you sure you're a lawyer ? Cops can use ANY information against you !!! If you say "I just went to the shopping mall", one cop could say "Well we just had a report of a shoplifter in the area. Get out of the car". One question answered will always lead to another question. Furthermore, YES I have something to hide: I hide my PRIVATE LIFE. It's none of the government's business. Thumbs down.
@@power2084 Yeah... first time I've heard a lawyer say something that stupid.
@@moehoward01 I just checked his website. On the front page, he says he's a former prosecutor !!! Are you surprised ?
@@power2084 😱
You guys are paranoid and have watched way too many American videos.
I'm very lucky no need to do anything!! Being one of the worst offenders in Canada my license been suspended for 10 years!! So taking the PUBLIC TRANSPORT saves me lots of head-ache how to deal with cops!! No more parking tickets or seat-belt tickets or speeding tickets etc... So i live cop free!! And love it!!
Most of the time they want the window down so they can stick their face in front of yours and smell for alcohol.
Like you said cops getting made at you when you’re within your rights. You see this a lot on RUclips. Too many with egos.
This guy gives good common sense and lawful advise.
You'd make Mao proud! Keep it up, and your dream might become reality, but unfortunately they'll haul you away too... So there's that, lol. You're chopping a hole in the boat and expecting to not drown! 😂
What an astoundingly limited, oxygen starved cave of truncated temporals your existence must be.
Do a video of the public space where we can film in canada without being trespass
Last time I was pulled over, after providing my documents, the officer asked; "where you heading?"
I pointed in the direction of my travel, and with a smile responded: "that way"
There ensued a period where we just stared at each other in silence.
As I continued to smile at him, he handed my license back to me and wished me a good night.
You can stand up for your rights while being respectful about it.
IMO
I have been driving for 56 years. I was stopped twice for speeding and because I was nice to both police officers I got a discount on my speeding fine. In writing out the ticket they reduced the speed at which I was going.
They always do that here in Quebec. I think it's a way for them to be the 'good guy' and placate drivers. It felt good the first time. After seeing it everytime, I believe it's a tactic.
cool story bro
LOL, they sucked you in. They only do that so you don't fight the ticket cos' you "got off light", but really, you are lining their pockets without a whimper. Always fight the ticket. May cost you an hour getting to court, but often the police don't show up and ta-da.....case dismissed.
better question is do you have to hand the documents to them or can you simply display them
I think that will vary from province to province. I don't ever remember its being an issue, and I've been around for decades.
Must provide...... that means hand it over to ensure that it is not a fake.
@@Glen-j2f Not necessarily. "Must provide," simply means make the information available. It does not mean to hand it over. Holding it up to a clean window so the cop can take a picture of it so he can run your details is all that's needed.
It is, however, far more polite to just be nice and hand it over.
If police ask your vh documents and drivers permit, you shall provide it. Just ask yourself why you are being intercepted
I would just roll it down. Police can use mandatory alcohol screening and likely will if you choose not to roll it down. Once they make that demand you better comply or you get arrested. Just cooperate, let them do their job and get on with the rest of your day
If they ask you to drop your pants and bend over, would you do it for the sake of cooperating and complying?
If i don't need say anything with a lawyer present...i sure as "h" don't have to without one.
Sadly, it has gotten to the point whereby citizens, for several reasons, need to wear a bodycam or have a camera in their vehicle to record interactions with police and/or others.
And even when you do record evidence, many times it's ignored by the other law enforcers, or to use this evidence you have to face huge obstructions and pay insane ans of money in legal fees
Whoa -- "If you've got nothing to hide..." Look at it this way: privacy is what protects you from abuse by people in positions of power.
Here in Ontario, any traffic stop by the OPP is a mandatory breath test now.
no it isn't
@@teddyruxspin8480 Yes it is. Look it up. It just recently changed. They supposedly changed the law around five years ago but just started enacting it this past summer. If you are stopped, for any reason, the officer has to give you a breath test. There is no discretion allowed.
@@johngidman4574 that sucks
I had a cop tell me once, “it’s your word against min.” To which I responded, “No sir, that is incorrect. It’s your word against my dashcam.” How a “running a stop sign” turned into a warning.
Verbally state that you are exercising your right to not answer questions. Remaining silent is not exercising your right. You MUST positively identify what you are doing. Also state "I object and protest this seizure" if you want to be able to sue in canada. If you don't say that, you consented to the seizure.
To Serve ( Their Masters )
And Protect ( Their Interests )
Police don't generally bother you in Canada... They're not looking to search every time in my experience...
do you live in a dam hole the cops in canada are out of control and have always been out of control on some preceived power they think they have ove r the people who pay them . i was stopped 50 years ago and have disliked the cops ever since . they stopped me for cutting down a few twigs in the bush near my back yard and took my knife saw and hatchet from me and never gave it back. serve and protect my arse
Bull crap yes they do
You are a man and can defend yourself. I had a friend, small woman, who rolled down her window and the guy leaned in and kissed her. Another time, a woman asked to pull over and get out and look at her headlights. She complied and the guy tried to strangle her. She escaped. Both incidents occurred in Surrey, BC. Very careful while responding amiably.
I got my hair cut one day got in my truck drive to the corner, turned right and as doing so noticed a ghost car going the other way did a double look at the car and the cop looked right at me he did a uturn in a busy intersection and pulled me over. I fully believe he was having a bad day and wanted to make mine the same. Anyhow he said I was talking on my phone because it was sitting on my seat I told him no I wasn't he then gave me the choice of getting a ticket for talking on the phone or for tinted windows, I have a 15 percent window tint, you can clearly see me when the window is up. I took a ticket for tinted windows just because the cop was having a bad day. Then went and had the tint removed.
What I do isn't their business
Question - In parking lots and on private property, the Highway Traffic Act of Ontario doesn't apply so you're not "required" to be buckled, have a license, stop at stop signs, not have your phone in your hands, etc... Correct?
Not necessarily. I believe if the property is, for example a mall parking lot, and normal driving rules apply or access to the driving public is permitted, then they have the ability to apply the law as if it were a public road. So, for example, if driving around the lot and you fail to stop at a stop sign, you can be ticketed just the same on the private property as if it was on the public roads.
The problem with that is the fact we don't have body worn cameras... they will always have the upper hand unless your DASHCAM is on and has a clear view or at least an unimpeded microphone. Don't let everyone know you have a dashcam also... unless you figure you can avoid injury or worst by that simple, true 'threat' of being exposed at a later date. One can be tempted to record with a phone but looking in your pockets and fidgeting away before the cops approach isn't the best of idea... you do you tho, just my opinion
Just stumbled across this on my feed. You are fabulous! What a great idea. So helpful!
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As a female, I have been stopped at night. The hi flash light in my face without being able to see the officer made me feel particularly uncomfortable.
I told the officer I would be willing to go to the station, if they wanted to follow me but Im not doing anything at 1 am. I did go to the station, they didn't follow. The station officer had no officers at the intersection I had been stopped at.
I'm a retired officer and anyone could have a fake uniform. No trust at night.
Do you have to give it to them or can you show them your drivers license and insurance.
I mean there is a huge difference between the two.
I was out in a soccer field with my tripod and binoculars late at night doing some astronomy. Walking home..an officer pulled up quickly beside me. She was friendly..and asked where I was coming from. I didn't answer. I just asked if i'm being arrested for anything. Another officer arrivied..and a third...and...other then providing my name and address..and them trying to get me say where I'm coming from/going too.I just asked if I'm being arrested for something. I heard an officer say to another they found a suspect along such and such. The officers told me to have a good night. Always made me wonder...if I was walking past a crime...and I said I was walking down that street..... I will never answer an officer a question where I was/am going..unless I am being ordered too..and will outright ask if I'm being ordered to answer.
Thank you for that valuable information!
I was stopped for a sobriety check in Ontario. The officer said he saw me coming from a strip mall that had a bar in it. They followed me for 6 blocks in an undercover truck. They stopped me 40 ft from my house. I stated I was in the store getting ice cream. He kept asking if I was drinking 5 times and I answered no every time no. I finally said get the breathalyser and let's see. That stopped the BADGERING!
Got the picture,bend over and obey.Police state.
It's simple...
Put my van in park
Roll down my window
Turn off my van
Put my hands on the wheel
Wait for instruction
Never a problem in Canada or the USA. Simple and easy. The only ones who don't roll down their windows and give flack back are the ones who are up to some sh*t and/or have something to hide. People all too often make a traffic stop way more difficult than it has to be.
Also, the officer only needs reasonable suspicion to demand an approved screening device breath sample. That means any moving violation (not signaling a lane change, weaving in the driving lane, driving fast, driving slow etc) coupled with not rolling your window down is reasonable suspicion. Which means you will have to step out of the vehicle and provide a breath sample into an approved screening device. Failure to do so means immediate impoundment of your vehicle and criminal charges. It's got nothing to do with getting the officer angry, it has everything to do with the driver being an asshat. Good luck.
Not fully rolling down your window does NOT constitute reasonable suspicion.
"Police may go ballistic and break the other window...". Stating this is accurately describing what's wrong with police.
Legally speaking, can you show your information by putting it up to the window where the officer can clearly read them?
Subjects have no rights. Just privilege from the king.
Ever heard of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms?
Sooo just a question but are you implying that you listen to law/bitch Enforcement at all times??
After 805 year the Magna Carta is dead.
Justin is a Queen.
I couldn't disagree more with your statement to tell them where you're coming from if you have nothing to hide. Are you a former cop by chance? NEVER give cops any more information than your license, insurance and ownership because once you open your mouth they will twist it and use it against you. Worst advice ever.
why would I tell them were I am going or were I came from if I am not drinking etc... that is the problem rules become laws... they are not our friends.. their soul job is to lay charges
You are such a nice polite Canadian. Not me. I am an award-winning professional. They have inconveniently interfered with my private time. People don't get enough privacy these days. I don't speed. Before I get in my vehicle I make sure it is safe.
One thing not being considered here is that many people have their front windows tinted too dark, past the legal limit. If the police cannot see the driver or passenger clearly, the vehicle operator has placed the officer in a defensive situation. Unfortunately, the criminal element in Canada has changed quite a bit in the past decade and they are ready, willing, and able to assault police with deadly force. I do not envy an officer approaching a vehicle with dark tinted windows that are rolled all the way up.
deadly force! When is the last time a cop was shot and killed in Canada!? By an actual Canadian not some immigrant or native gang member.
You're so right and in most cases that's why police want your windows rolled down. The other side of that coin is if your driver's side window is tinted too dark (illegal) you're likely going to be ticketed for that as well. Tinting allowances vary from province to province so what's considered legal in Ontario may very well be illegal in Alberta/BC.
Have you seen the tint on some cop cars? Rules for thee but not for me...
@@beerfanboy Yes exactly. Many police vehicles are modified under exemptions that are legal. Very much "rules for thee but not for me" but legally permitted.
@@beerfanboy - Maybe so, but it's irrelevant to my point and a judge won't care either.
"If you got nothing to hide"???...it seems your sageous council is, "Comply or suffer the consequences"... Is that the country we live in, "Expect police to be unscrupulous, ready and willing to violate their oath of office to treat citizens with respect and courtesy... INSUBBING you cop bootlicker
What's the procedure as a passenger? does a passenger have to provide ID or identify themselves? Cheers
Thanks for sharing❤👍
What about in Alberta where they have mandatory roadside breathalyzers? They literally come up and shove it in your face no matter the reason for the stop. What about at checkstops?
I was so nervous by being pulled over by police, and I was doing everything he said.. he actually helped find stuff lol .. some people are just good people and getting pulled over when you are not a criminal, makes you nervous as h3ll lol.. just be nice and they are OK to you. (With multiple copies of ins. in car, I couldn't find the current one and wasn't sure where to look for dates cuz I was flustered.)
This isn't really the point though. Canadian laws are vague and Canadians are normally good-natured folks, so the old chestnut of "nothing to hide" compliance simply means that your rights - what few we seem to have left - are being eroded. The police being able to pull you over for whatever (or even NO) reason whatsoever is very concerning and is such an erosion on the right to just go about your business without fear of harassment that it is scarcely believable that it is present in Canada not Soviet Russia.
In the US, there are videos where the person provides the documents but does not hand them through the window. In Canada, is there a requirement that they physically can hold it?
Why does a citizen have to be polite and bow down to the cops? Why’s that considered escalating the situation? I get that we are screwed over by having to be stopped by a cop when you’ve done nothing wrong and the cop just wants to use his authority to go on a power trip. I open my window to a maximum of 4 inches and if the cop doesn’t like that then he can escalate the situation but I’m filming him and his actions and I would hold every cop involved accountable if any of my Rights are challenged or violated by the cops.
You should be telling everyone TO ALWAYS FILM THE POLICE, NEVER TALK TO THE POLICE UNLESS ANSWERING QUESTIONS TGAT YOU ARE LEGALLY REQUIRED TO ANSWER. IM NOT IGNORANT TO THE COPS BUT IM ALSO NOT GOING TO HAVE MY RIGHTS VIOLATED BY ANY CANADIAN COP.
AND THE ORGANIZATION THAT INVESTIGATES COP COMPLAINTS ARE USELESS BECAUSE THEY BACK THE BLUE. WE NEED TO HAVE NON LAW ENFORCEMENT INDIVIDUALS INVESTIGATING THE POLICE WHEN IT COMES TO COMPLAINTS AS THEY ARE NOT PART OF THE BLUE LINE GANGS TGAT WE HAVE HERE IN ONTARIO AND ACROSS CANADA.
Please locate my comment and go read it ! P.S. this lawyer is a former prosecutor.
Because we pay taxes that pay the cops, so the longer you keep the cop busy, the longer he is not actually chasing criminals. Be efficient, save your taxpayer money.
@@MB-xe8bb you mean, the longer he's not *oppressing people*
Don't mix to be polite and to bow down, 2 very different things. I'm polite, but zi don't bow for no one.
If you are intercepted often, just ask yourself why, this can help your situation
Your comment is simply and exactly true.
Thanks for stating it.
Here in Canada the police can give you a breathalyzer test for no reason.
So you don't roll the window down, bang they then have you step out if the car and provide a breath sample.
Thank Trudeau for that law.
Correct. And oh, it's much worse than that. If you have driven home and sat down and during the course of a couple of hours had a couple of glasses of whiskey, and a cop knocks on your door and accuses you of drinking and driving and demands you to provide a breath analyzer sample, if you refuse, he now has the right to charge you with drinking while under the influence. It's unfuckenbelievable, yet it's already happened to people in Toronto.
So ya, thank Trudeau for that.
@@danielmeecham464Don’t answer the door!
Not true.
@danielmenit trueecham464
From the comments, it seems clear that some people are confusing rights with privileges. In Canada driving is not a right. It is a privilege granted once you complete certain requirements and your continued driving is based on you obeying many laws and regulations. Even if we don't like it, police in Canada can pull you over for almost any reason. In my town, I've been stopped twice at checkpoints set up just to check registrations. You'd think the police would have more important things to do than allocate 6-8 officers for a two-way checkpoint just to look at registrations. So clearly they can pull you over for minor registration issues or even just to check. You don't need to envision an officer getting angry or being crooked to understand why s/he might think there is something more happening if you don't lower your window. I recently crossed into the States and at the border crossing the guard asked me to lower my back window. That made perfect sense to me and I did. Upon returning to Canada, I lowered both as I drove up to the booth. Maybe a minute later I was on my way back into Canada. If I'm stopped by the police on the highway in the future, assuming the weather isn't terrible, I'll do the same and open both windows. Now some of the comments below do seem to understand this and are referring instead to their right to privacy and right to not self-incriminate. In that case they could refuse to not say anything about where they were or where they are going but that would not likely be acceptable to not rolling down the window upon request. And even if NOT talking to the officers is your right, there is nothing to say that might not raise suspicions with the officer. S/he might have suspected minor alcohol or marijuana but not enough to test or charge you but you shutting up, be it your right or not, could make that officer think there is more happening than there really is. After all this is there job in almost every interaction with the public. They interact for some reason but are always alert to any other potential illegal activities.
A lot of people in the comments don't seem to understand the purpose of the police. If they ask you where you are coming from, they likely want to know whether you've been drinking (coming from a bar, party at friends', etc). I personally am glad they are weeding out drunk drivers. The one time this happened to me I told them I was coming back from dinner at a friend's and their follow up question was "did you have anything to drink?" And I said "yes, I had a glass of wine" and they said "just one glass?" And I said "yes, just one glass, I'm not a big drinker" and they said "ok thanks for your time, get home safe" and I was on my way.
What about deep freeze conditions or very strong downpours!?!? I’ve handed my papers through a very small crack before. I’m not putting my health in danger for the cops making his quotas.
we have very little rights in Canada
False, very false. We do have many rights in Canada
@@dhache1195 cant defend ourselves or family, cant defend our home, Cops can pull you over for no reason at anytime, look what happened during covid, less and less free speech on the web. No way of holding government accountably. just a few of the bigger ones.
They're asking questions so you'll speak revealing whether or not they can detect alcohol or marijuana on your breath. Have a look at your eyes to see if they're "fixed and dilated." These are early indicators as how to proceed
Thanks.
Yes you do........
I think the only ones that are worried about being non-compliant are the criminals maybe they haven't been caught yet and they certainly don't want to be it's all a question of attitude all you have to do is comply and go on your way if you have done nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about
Thanks for the information. Just noticed this channel and I'd like to watch so I'm more informed about all the topics. Canadian Law is very interesting and its a Canadian's duty to understand Canadian Laws as best they can.
If I may add a point though, Joseph Goebbels coined the phrase: "If you have nothing to fear, you have nothing to hide." -which sounds much like the "If you have nothing to hide.." -I would hope in 2024 we all know who this man was.
A simple reason not to answer all manners of questions that police officers ask (can and do) is that they shouldn't be asking those questions unless they suspect you of crime. Which increasingly they are using just to find something to charge you with. I've never committed a crime but I've been through stops many times where I made to feel guilty (for something other than going 10 KMs over the speed limit on a rural highway) by this line of questioning.
It's un-nerving and sets the precedent for officers to behave in this manner.