Pilot Flares Too Steeply During Landing

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  • @zujiahuang8454
    @zujiahuang8454 Год назад +598

    Love the 747 politely honking while trying his best to slow down

    • @skydiverclassc2031
      @skydiverclassc2031 Год назад +28

      Probably someone going the speed limit in the fast lane ahead of him....

    • @Denwas
      @Denwas Год назад +5

      @@skydiverclassc2031 You think so?

    • @j4niik821
      @j4niik821 Год назад +13

      Might be a stupid questio for actual aviation heads but is planes honking actually a thing? Or is it a car behind the camera? Really curious and actually don't know

    • @ciri151
      @ciri151 Год назад +46

      @@j4niik821 It's a car. Planes can't honk.

    • @GarrettWorcester
      @GarrettWorcester Год назад +29

      "Out of my way! I'm the Queen of the Skies!"

  • @SurajV320
    @SurajV320 Год назад +263

    Watching that 747 classic being handled so delicately and precisely was an absolute treat to watch! Love your videos!!

    • @XXSkunkWorksXX
      @XXSkunkWorksXX Год назад +3

      The big speedbird looked as majestixal as the day she was born. And that pilot steering it - Mr Fabulous is at the wheel! Smooooth with a capital Smooo!

    • @tonyb8660
      @tonyb8660 Год назад

      ​@@XXSkunkWorksXX haven't heard that saying in years 😅🎉😂

    • @daftvader4218
      @daftvader4218 Год назад +1

      Your joking ..
      Totally non standard. .
      Lot of armchairs here...

  • @mikeybhoutex
    @mikeybhoutex Год назад +249

    1:32 - That is one smoooth operator of a 747. Butters the touchdown, throws the reversers, keeps the flair up, and settles just so nicely on the nose gear... Just a joy to watch.

    • @MeppyMan
      @MeppyMan Год назад +15

      Unless you’re a pilot then it’s cringe inducing and concerning. Only thing I can think of is perhaps they didn’t get a green light on the nose wheel, or the auto brakes failed or weren’t set. I’d defer to a 747 pilot if this would be an appropriate procedure.

    • @dingdong2103
      @dingdong2103 Год назад +9

      The last clips made me wonder if the price of brake pads has gone up, pilots seem to resort to tricks to save them.

    • @dingdong2103
      @dingdong2103 Год назад +3

      @@MeppyMan That was a cargo plane though, I doubt the parcels will mind :)

    • @rtbrtb_dutchy4183
      @rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Год назад +5

      @@MeppyMan I’m typed in the 747 and I would keep the nose off if I was light and had to exit the runway at the end. You would keep in in idle reverse and not add power. You wouldn’t use the brakes at all. It’s easy to do this in a 747. The main gear is in the right spot that makes it very light on the nose and you can keep the nose off to about 60 knots.

    • @mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311
      @mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311 Год назад +1

      And, if it is permissible these days to say such things, that such nuanced, intelligent professionalism should be witnessed at an airport in a developing country (at least I avoided calling it Third World😂) where one might ordinarily not expect to find examples of airmanship in the upper echelons of the best quality to be seen anywhere on the planet... 😏

  • @ChicagoAirportSpotter
    @ChicagoAirportSpotter Год назад +185

    Thanks for featuring my AA 767 video - I always get caught off-guard seeing it being shared around the web, lol.

    • @chickenpopper
      @chickenpopper Год назад +7

      thanks for filming it! i have always wondered why these planes don't have a little wheel under the tail to prevent damage when landing and taking off.

    • @charlottehardy822
      @charlottehardy822 Год назад +2

      It’s a great video.

    • @daktarioskarvannederhosen2568
      @daktarioskarvannederhosen2568 Год назад +19

      @ Chicago Airport Spotter so you mean this '3 minutes of aviation' youtuber just grabs other peoples' material, and to worsen it, doesn't even inform them, and then reposts it as though it were his ffs?

    • @CP-mb7ly
      @CP-mb7ly Год назад +1

      Do you remember or have video that includes the wind sock at the airport around that time? I'm wondering if the plane didn't run into a low-level gust of wind at the moment it was flaring, causing more lift under the wing. That would exacerbate the movement.

    • @bern3187
      @bern3187 Год назад +8

      @@daktarioskarvannederhosen2568 hahaha did you think he was at O’Hare recording the AAL and next day he was in Bangladesh recording the 747?

  • @RickyB686
    @RickyB686 Год назад +155

    The 350 pilots landed that plane even though the wipers were out of sync - truly remarkable!

    • @jamescollier3
      @jamescollier3 Год назад +2

      HUD

    • @Boss_Tanaka
      @Boss_Tanaka Год назад +80

      That must be a very complicated aircraft if it needs 350 pilots

    • @Ea-Nasir_Copper_Co
      @Ea-Nasir_Copper_Co Год назад +6

      @@Boss_Tanaka We're all pilots nowadays. Pilots as far as the eye can see.

    • @GarrettWorcester
      @GarrettWorcester Год назад +5

      @@Ea-Nasir_Copper_Co Pilots. Pilots everywhere.

    • @MeppyMan
      @MeppyMan Год назад +8

      @@Ea-Nasir_Copper_Co it’s getting tough for us real pilots. People no longer take your word for it with all the YT comment pilots out there now.

  • @Zoom_1012
    @Zoom_1012 Год назад +212

    That clip of the 747 was very cool. Never seen a maneuver like that before 👍🏻.
    🌴☀️🌴

    • @hepcat-bob
      @hepcat-bob Год назад +3

      It also used its thrust reversers. You can see them actuate just after it touched down.

    • @applejacks971
      @applejacks971 Год назад +1

      Did you NOT see the 767 at :30??

    • @jonathanbeattie3410
      @jonathanbeattie3410 Год назад +23

      Aerodynamic braking is not recommended due to AA demonstrating exactly why…..

    • @OneTequilaTwoTequila
      @OneTequilaTwoTequila Год назад +38

      It wasn't a maneuver; it was shitty pilot technique. I've been flying the 747 for almost 20 years -you don't try to hold the nose up like that. He probably didn't arm the autobrakes.

    • @jonathanbeattie3410
      @jonathanbeattie3410 Год назад +12

      @@OneTequilaTwoTequila it’s a classic 747 landing in Dhaka….. most probably flown by pilots who don’t know what an SOP is 🤣

  • @ilfordino-fordfiestatutori8725
    @ilfordino-fordfiestatutori8725 Год назад +65

    The A350 POV is mindblowing

  • @holywells
    @holywells 9 месяцев назад +1

    Hmmm....at 1:10....on an approach with foggy conditions, why is your glare shield down ??

  • @Horstroad
    @Horstroad Год назад +43

    1:23 I like how the NAV displays automatically switch modes when the plane touches down.

    • @Seff2
      @Seff2 Год назад

      And the best part is the smooth zoom animation.

    • @AmriTiBriOlym
      @AmriTiBriOlym Год назад +1

      Yes got to zoom on the runway it landed & the precise taxiways

    • @megadavis5377
      @megadavis5377 Год назад

      It would be even better had it not been faked. It's a very good fake though. You've got tech talent.

    • @christianmaas8934
      @christianmaas8934 Год назад +1

      @@megadavis5377 Huh?

    • @AmriTiBriOlym
      @AmriTiBriOlym Год назад +1

      @@megadavis5377 It’s not fake, that’s the real display interface in newer Airbus planes like the A350 & A380.

  • @manifestgtr
    @manifestgtr Год назад +8

    Dude, this is one of the more solid “3 minutes” I’ve ever seen…not a dud in the bunch. Good job, man 👍

  • @fluffigverbimmelt
    @fluffigverbimmelt Год назад +5

    1:42 At this time I am convinced that the constant honking in our calls with India do not result from traffic, they're inevitable.
    Like background radiation resulting in small white flashes on videos, the honking is an environmental factor of a recoding in India (or for this matter Bangladesh).

  • @itsdinnerboneya6785
    @itsdinnerboneya6785 Год назад +17

    The Boeing 747 clip was so good to watch

  • @mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311
    @mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311 Год назад +2

    I can't really say why but individually and collectively, I found the snippets so incredibly satisfying! These 3mins on this channel nearly always a sort of expensively high quality, intense, Arabica, ristretto experience of all things aviation!😄❤❤

  • @flyingmyles
    @flyingmyles Год назад +9

    cant say I've ever seen an aircraft use reverse thrust to slow down while taxiing before! That 767 landing was superb too.

    • @loupgarou-dj3tm
      @loupgarou-dj3tm Год назад +4

      I'm sure both pilots kept their faces down and hoped no one noticed.

    • @geoffreybaldwin9211
      @geoffreybaldwin9211 Год назад +2

      I see business jets do it all the time. Just riding around with the buckets open, instead of using the brakes. But.... a bit of a different engine configuration. I too can't say I've ever seen anything with this engine config slow down using reverse thrust.

    • @ekbusdriver
      @ekbusdriver Год назад +3

      The vast majority of commercial airlines do not allow for pilots to use reverse thrust once clear of the runway, and below certain speeds. Too much risk of ingesting debris.
      Most biz jets have high-mounted engines, so that risk is minimized. Owners/operators also think they are saving money on brakes.

    • @bigredc222
      @bigredc222 Год назад

      Should they even be going that fast?

  • @joalmeria891
    @joalmeria891 Год назад +1

    Hello, could anyone please tell me what the name is of glass oval shown above at 0:53?

    • @gort8203
      @gort8203 Год назад

      Head Up Display (HUD). You can't see any of the info on due to position of the camera.

    • @joalmeria891
      @joalmeria891 Год назад

      @@gort8203 Ah got it. Thanks man!

  • @Anmeteor9663
    @Anmeteor9663 Год назад +16

    On the A350 I loved seeing how light the touch on the controls by the pilot

    • @pauldzim
      @pauldzim Год назад +2

      Light? He was slinging that joystick around like he was playing Halo or something

  • @lesleyM84
    @lesleyM84 Год назад +4

    WOWZERS!!! What a completely COOL channel you are!! I’m so thrilled to have found you!! These planes are just absolute BEASTS and the pilots, so good!!!!!

  • @RoyalBengalAviation
    @RoyalBengalAviation Год назад +1

    Thanks for my 747 clip. cheers

  • @jimj5224
    @jimj5224 Год назад +12

    Years ago thrust reverser use was only approved above a certain speed due to potential FOD ingestion.

    • @jonesjones7057
      @jonesjones7057 Год назад +8

      Still the case with any plane with engines on the wings/low to the ground. If the chief pilot watches this channel, we won't be seeing any more of this at that airline.

    • @stevenbeach748
      @stevenbeach748 Год назад +1

      A lot of thrust reversers have limitations on ground idle only below a certain speed. I don’t know about this one in particular.

    • @TheTS1205
      @TheTS1205 Год назад

      Well you could argue that in this case ingestion is minimized due to the engines looking into the sky xD

    • @jonesjones7057
      @jonesjones7057 Год назад +1

      @@TheTS1205 we are commenting on the plane taxiing to the gate, not the 747 using aerodynamic braking.

    • @fallingwater
      @fallingwater Год назад +1

      @kabfighter how much thrust is there in idle? Wouldn't think it'd make much of a difference, but then again at taxiing speeds on the ground maybe that's enough to slow down the plane as in the video

  • @patwalsh5080
    @patwalsh5080 Год назад +2

    The KLM E190 hits the reversers coming up to the gate and the first officer has his window open? Something is amiss on that flight deck, imo.

  • @Andres_1970
    @Andres_1970 Год назад +17

    That AA 767 touched down with most of it's weight over the left-hand Main Landing Gear, that's why IMO it fully compresses, causing the whole body to get closer to the ground, until the right MLG helps in supporting the aircraft ... The flare and attitude seemed OK to me (not a pilot but an ATCO) ...

    • @1STGeneral
      @1STGeneral Год назад +6

      Too many Kardashians riding in coach 😮

    • @gomez2724
      @gomez2724 Год назад

      If you watch closely you'll notice the left gear strut is not extended fully (under inflated or flat) causing it to fully collapse, causing the tail strike.

    • @Andres_1970
      @Andres_1970 Год назад +1

      @@gomez2724 That is not what happens here IMO. Both Struts are equally extended to me.
      There is an "optic illusion" that could lead to think otherwise, caused by the background we have of both. White snow behind the Right One and the Rear fuselage of the aircraft behind the Left One. Apart from that you can see a) Right wing is pointing higher than Left wing. b) Left Landing Gear touches down first, clearly, so it compress "normally" given the circumstances. Had it collapsed, it would had stayed like that after both Landing Gears are supporting the plane, which didn't happen.

    • @cb01ttr
      @cb01ttr Год назад

      He held the nose wheel off for far too long IMO.

  • @jmag579
    @jmag579 Год назад +1

    0:29
    Sick wheelie bro ✨

  • @themindset3329
    @themindset3329 Год назад +3

    Wow the cockpit of the A350 really does look more modern and streamlined than the other models

  • @aliancemd
    @aliancemd Год назад +2

    2:29 I understand he probably gets faster to the gate but isn’t that breaking noise pollution rules?

  • @APerson-fj6yx
    @APerson-fj6yx Год назад +3

    0:18 sad to see that the 767s were retired with American during the pandemic. Less and less of those beautiful chrome liveries. It looked so good on the Mad dog!

  • @itsdinnerboneya6785
    @itsdinnerboneya6785 Год назад +8

    Honestly lovely videos, keep up the work

  • @theflyingrealestateagent2828
    @theflyingrealestateagent2828 Год назад +1

    What’s with selecting reverse on the Embraer while taxiing? Is this allowed within some airlines? Backed up in turboprops and the 737-200 but I always thought that cascade reversers on wing mounted engines was a no no.

    • @MeppyMan
      @MeppyMan Год назад +2

      Yeah it’s certainly not SOP and for good reason. Maybe it was the captains last day before retirement and he always wanted to do it? Lol.

    • @daftvader4218
      @daftvader4218 Год назад

      Cowboys KLM...

  • @seamusblack5876
    @seamusblack5876 Год назад +1

    2:00 playing with fire

  • @iluvhousemuzik
    @iluvhousemuzik Год назад

    Woww that 747 nose for a long time was simply stunning!!!

  • @YamiPheonix531
    @YamiPheonix531 Год назад +15

    The a350 cockpit looks very roomy. Pilots have more leg room just like business and first class. Nice one Airbus.

    • @Boss_Tanaka
      @Boss_Tanaka Год назад +1

      Most of the time i prefer yoked aircraft but i have to admit the a350 cockpit is a masterpiece

    • @patwalsh5080
      @patwalsh5080 Год назад +1

      Side joysticks are helpful in adding room around the most important chairs.

    • @cefb8923
      @cefb8923 Год назад

      ​@@patwalsh5080 I'd say that has nothing to do with it. The yoke isn't that big lol. The Boeing have plenty of room too, so do the Embraer and they both have yokes.

    • @Greatdome99
      @Greatdome99 Год назад

      Wide angle lens.

  • @richie26uk
    @richie26uk Год назад +3

    "This 747 does exactly what the Flight Crew Training Manual says not to do...." is what it should have said.

  • @DomoKuchikan
    @DomoKuchikan Год назад +2

    Isn't it forbidden to use reverse thrust the way that KLM pilot did?

  • @joemichaels4231
    @joemichaels4231 Год назад

    Perhaps, one of your best videos yet! Thank you!

  • @ChicagoAirportSpotter
    @ChicagoAirportSpotter Год назад +26

    I saw a plane use reverse-thrust once while taxiing to increase the following distance from the plane in front of them, it was wild. I wish I had it on video. I'm sure it happens more often than we'd think.

    • @OneTequilaTwoTequila
      @OneTequilaTwoTequila Год назад +12

      If the plane was a jet, the pilot was an idiot. It does little to slow you down at slow speeds and highly increases the risk of ingesting something into the engine.

    • @ChicagoAirportSpotter
      @ChicagoAirportSpotter Год назад +3

      @C K E175, IIRC...traffic was backed up on TWY A at ORD after a storm, it looped all the way around the entire taxiway. I just happened to look up from fueling a plane and saw the nose of the E175 dip and the right reverser was open. Almost went into the back of another regional which was probably a CR7.

    • @747-8F
      @747-8F Год назад +4

      reverse thrust while taxiing is prohibited on the 747

    • @thomasaltruda
      @thomasaltruda Год назад +6

      On high engine planes like the CRJ or Gulfstreams, they crack the reverse all the time at idle to reduce the residual idle thrust. Shouldn’t do it on underslung engines though as it could injest fod..

    • @ChicagoAirportSpotter
      @ChicagoAirportSpotter Год назад +4

      @@thomasaltruda Now that you mention it, I've definitely seen it a few times on bizjets turning into the Signature ramp here at ORD. They come in fast, probably because they've been taxiing for an hour after landing, lmao.

  • @TruthyToo
    @TruthyToo Год назад +2

    Isn't using reverse thrusters off the runway frowned upon, even against many airlines' policies?

  • @DeltaAvgeekOfficial
    @DeltaAvgeekOfficial Год назад +1

    0:05 I'm surprised to see a AA 767-300ER in the Chrome livery. It brings me back to the 767-200.

  • @litamtondy
    @litamtondy Год назад +1

    The 350's interior looks like a futuristic spaceship.

  • @DocZoidberg549
    @DocZoidberg549 Год назад +14

    I hate that the 747 is going away. I never got to fly on this beautiful aircraft.

    • @Artess-od8wb
      @Artess-od8wb Год назад +1

      It'll probably be in service for decades to come, they just won't be making new ones.

    • @DocZoidberg549
      @DocZoidberg549 Год назад

      @@Artess-od8wb They seem to be converted to cargo. Passenger versions seem to be rarer. Also, I don't fly international and that is kind of their design.

    • @MeppyMan
      @MeppyMan Год назад +2

      @@DocZoidberg549 last time I flew on a 747 it was a domestic leg of an international flight. Got upgraded to business for the super long 1 hour journey lol.

    • @jumboJetPilot
      @jumboJetPilot Год назад +2

      Lufthansa, Korean, and a few others still use them as passenger aircraft. As for me, I’ll be logging my 10,000th Boeing 747 flight hour later this year.

    • @DocZoidberg549
      @DocZoidberg549 Год назад +1

      @@jumboJetPilot Does it fly as good as they say?

  • @worldaviation4k
    @worldaviation4k Год назад

    *The best AA Livery to exist*

  • @BrunoR.2
    @BrunoR.2 Год назад +1

    can anyone explain the thrust reverser, were they just testing it or actually using it? brakes too hot?

    • @gort8203
      @gort8203 Год назад +3

      Could be using it or could be testing it. Perhaps a reverser unlocked or not stowed indication was still present after clearing the runway so they recycled the levers to ensure the reversers were fully stowed.

    • @daftvader4218
      @daftvader4218 Год назад

      COWBOY! !

  • @PavlosPapageorgiou
    @PavlosPapageorgiou Год назад +2

    0:53 I like the pilot moving the sidestick around and the plane doing nothing much. He must be very skilled ;)

    • @MeppyMan
      @MeppyMan Год назад +1

      The sensitivity adjusts on the controls depending on the airspeed and phase of flight. At least that is my understanding. Not an Airbus pilot :)

  • @kirankhare5630
    @kirankhare5630 Год назад

    That was absolutely amazing

  • @LMays-cu2hp
    @LMays-cu2hp Год назад

    Thank you for sharing these great aircraft.

  • @justme5578
    @justme5578 Год назад

    This is such a cool channel!

  • @bambootherainwing8070
    @bambootherainwing8070 Год назад

    2:02
    mans really doin a wheelie 😂

  • @ehsan83
    @ehsan83 Год назад +1

    I don't think the KLM used thrust to slowdown. if not forbidden it should be dangerous in the ramp area for injecting possible FOD into the engine

    • @daftvader4218
      @daftvader4218 Год назад

      Look at the engines! !

    • @ehsan83
      @ehsan83 Год назад

      @@daftvader4218 deploying reversers is a thing, using the actual thrust is another

    • @daftvader4218
      @daftvader4218 Год назад +1

      @@ehsan83 At that stage there is no reason to deploy the reversers at all...Unless you are going to use them..
      Just non standard Cowboys..

  • @EdOeuna
    @EdOeuna Год назад +1

    I’m not sure what the 767 pilot was thinking. That landing was perfect until they flared a second time as the wheels touched down, and it all went to $hit.

  • @pattieh5118
    @pattieh5118 Год назад

    This was a very interesting episode.

  • @ALLpurpose85
    @ALLpurpose85 Год назад +3

    That 767 landing was beautiful not sure what the extra flare was for it touched down already and perfectly

  • @TruckingToPlease
    @TruckingToPlease Год назад

    The dynamic braking clip reminded me of the same approach the space shuttles used on final.

  • @enigmadrath1780
    @enigmadrath1780 Год назад +2

    For a second there I was so massively confused by the honking. Haven't been on a plane in over 20 years and I keep hearing from others all the modern upgrades that planes have undergone since my childhood so I was genuinely wondering whether horns had been added XD

  • @jbar_85
    @jbar_85 Год назад

    I love that old American Airlines livery!

  • @StarHorseLover200
    @StarHorseLover200 Год назад

    2:44 The right nose wheel is clearly low on pressure. Maybe that's why they didn't want to use the brakes.

  • @ryanfrisby7389
    @ryanfrisby7389 Год назад

    Excellent video!

  • @MrJoe1129uscg
    @MrJoe1129uscg Год назад

    Awesome to see a few 47 classics still flying!

  • @CoffeeFlight
    @CoffeeFlight Год назад

    Love the A350 😍

  • @osldu4194
    @osldu4194 Год назад

    Hearing those Bus horns and background, I can instantly say that 747 is landing in my country, Dhaka Bangladesh 😂😂 Good video mate

  • @gomez2724
    @gomez2724 Год назад +2

    The KLM pilot should know better, never use reverse thrust at lower than 80kts due to the risk of FOD ingestion.

  • @xaviersavedra711
    @xaviersavedra711 Год назад

    I love these videos

  • @joemartino6976
    @joemartino6976 Год назад

    That KLM plane reminded me of Captain Ron when he pulled into the marina at St. Haag.

  • @connieembury1
    @connieembury1 Год назад

    Love the pilot's point of view videos!

  • @AnthonyHigham6414001080
    @AnthonyHigham6414001080 Год назад

    Funny, it's only just occurred to me; A French pilot landing a European aircraft in France still gets his height above the runway in feet.

  • @johno9507
    @johno9507 Год назад +1

    0:35 Interesting that reverse thrust wasn't used after landing, that's probably why he landed so slowly in the first place.

  • @williamsampson4460
    @williamsampson4460 Год назад

    Wow, on that first plane it was almost 20 seconds between the rear and nose wheels making contact with the runway. I think many people would be surprised at the amount of control input there is from the pilots when landing.

  • @Peter_Riis_DK
    @Peter_Riis_DK Год назад +1

    Why put wear and tear on the wheel brakes and tires when you can use air as a brake. [747 and KLM Cityhopper]

  • @juanavalos5820
    @juanavalos5820 Год назад

    Me facinan tus videos.😊

  • @shakey2634
    @shakey2634 Год назад +1

    Better check the tail bumper for damage on that first AA 767

  • @Tadesan
    @Tadesan Год назад

    Is this above and beyond safety?

  • @swampfuel20
    @swampfuel20 Год назад +5

    Like the KLM, windows open, using the engines to slow down near gate. Reminiscent of downshifting days...
    3rd to 2nd, giving the brakes a rest. 😅

    • @daftvader4218
      @daftvader4218 Год назад +1

      Bunch of KLM Cowboys...
      A company with a poor record of taxing properly...
      Still continues..!!

  • @CaptainConstand
    @CaptainConstand Год назад +1

    that 747 daaaaamn nearly thought the tail was gonna strike

  • @M6Cabriolet
    @M6Cabriolet Год назад +2

    I don’t think it was a tail strike. It looked like a nice smooth landing though. On another note is that one of the last left in the whole fleet with the old livery??

    • @JDSleeper
      @JDSleeper Год назад

      AA uses historical liveries on many aircraft.

    • @M6Cabriolet
      @M6Cabriolet Год назад

      @@JDSleeper I know, but that doesn’t seem to be one. I could be wrong but I’ll look it up lol

  • @ChrisMatinet
    @ChrisMatinet Год назад

    That 747 is magnificent, I probably won't get to ride in one before my time

  • @juanferrutxevila1151
    @juanferrutxevila1151 Год назад +1

    Not sure about 747, but “aerodinamic braking” on aircrafts like B737 is not recommended, as in reality increases landing distance. And also not sure about the E190… but again is not recommended in many aircrafts due to the threat of FOD ingestion.

    • @OneTequilaTwoTequila
      @OneTequilaTwoTequila Год назад +4

      I just checked Boeing's 747 Flight Crew Training Manual. It says, "After main gear touchdown, initiate the landing roll procedure. Fly the nose wheels smoothly onto the runway without delay... Do not attempt to hold the nose wheels off the runway. Holding the nose up after touchdown for aerodynamic braking is not an effective braking technique and results in high nose gear sink rates upon brake application and reduced braking effectiveness." It also mentions the danger of tail strikes and the risk of structural damage when lowering the nose at low speeds.

    • @daftvader4218
      @daftvader4218 Год назад +1

      @@OneTequilaTwoTequila Yes CK exactly. .
      Flown the B747-400 for years.
      Lots of armchairs here...

  • @gishjalmr5628
    @gishjalmr5628 Год назад

    I saw one of our F15Es do this on landing when I was stationed at RAF Lakenheath. Quite a bit of damage was done to the augmenters.

  • @leenux1707
    @leenux1707 Год назад

    pilote in the 767 "look at that wheelie !"
    pilote in the 747 "old my beer 2 sec"

  • @Artess-od8wb
    @Artess-od8wb Год назад +2

    That first one was going so smoothly and then suddenly went down so hard after touching down.

  • @747-8F
    @747-8F Год назад +3

    by consulting the 747 OFM one should find the sentence "not to use "aerodynamic breaking"!
    it is nonsense ,potentially dangerous and/or
    will eventually end in a tailstrike

  • @mariaaparecidacaires1836
    @mariaaparecidacaires1836 Год назад +1

    Que vídeo maravilhoso, é um verdadeiro Show, amei assistir.

  • @vincentxie3090
    @vincentxie3090 Год назад

    Flight 747 is definitely my favorite when the airplane is moving straight on the runway by slowing down the speed.

  • @lecolintube
    @lecolintube Год назад

    😂 Amazed at the technology that goes into making an Airbus A350-900 fly, and fly by wire! but those windscreen wipers being out of sync, totally cracks me up. 1:11

    • @JohnClarke1
      @JohnClarke1 Год назад +1

      They are independently controlled so PF and PM can have the settings they each want.

  • @jefflopes8810
    @jefflopes8810 Год назад

    so beautiful!!

  • @mattdaugherty7865
    @mattdaugherty7865 Год назад

    I still love the "old school" American livery!

  • @flyerbob124
    @flyerbob124 Год назад +1

    The 747 landing was a textbook bomber landing. Great job 😎

  • @relayer
    @relayer Год назад

    "Suffers a potential tail strike"? What does that mean. It either had a strinke or it didn't.

  • @TimAndyMik
    @TimAndyMik Год назад

    That 747 looks like a rendition transport.

  • @Horstroad
    @Horstroad Год назад +1

    0:29 great demonstration of the effect of the ground spoilers. Also I don't think this was a tail strike. You can pretty clearly see the tail skid and I don't think it touched the runway.

    • @stevenbeach748
      @stevenbeach748 Год назад

      What do you mean by your comment about the ground spoilers?
      The part of the fuselage that would’ve touched the runway was behind the landing gear in the video. It’s not clear if it touched or not.

    • @Horstroad
      @Horstroad Год назад +1

      @@stevenbeach748 You can see how the aircraft sinks considerably the moment the ground spoilers deploy and destroy most of the lift. The tail skid is visible right next to wheel #5. The skid is still extended after the tail moved away from the runway. The tail skid is in a location that would contact the runway first in the event of a tail strike. Even though it looks like the fuselage forward of the tail skid might touch the runway first, it does not.

    • @Google_Does_Evil_Now
      @Google_Does_Evil_Now Год назад

      0:28 what causes the rapid up nose pitch angle?

    • @MeppyMan
      @MeppyMan Год назад +2

      @@Google_Does_Evil_Now pilot error.

    • @aerofreak2053
      @aerofreak2053 Год назад

      @@Google_Does_Evil_Now ground spoilers deploying cause both the sudden pitch up and the sudden compression of the gear struts.

  • @Jon.......
    @Jon....... Год назад

    So was it an official "tail strike" on not? Also, how do you "suffer" when there is only "potential"?

  • @ZaprdicaJelic
    @ZaprdicaJelic Год назад

    Never thought I'd see a plane do a wheelie.

  • @Glegh
    @Glegh Год назад +3

    That 767 done the opposite of aeroscure, it flared too much!

    • @Boss_Tanaka
      @Boss_Tanaka Год назад

      They did the oposite of Ryanair

  • @ShellCC
    @ShellCC Год назад +10

    You owe us 1 second of aviation 😎

    • @YurymBR
      @YurymBR Год назад +1

      I was looking for this comment XD

  • @bobdefalco
    @bobdefalco Год назад

    Airbus cockpits are so clean in design

  • @afnannusayr
    @afnannusayr Год назад

    2:45 is that glass open

  • @NN-uu9qo
    @NN-uu9qo Год назад +1

    That wasn't steep flare. It's pitch up caused by holding aft control column pressure after touching down plus speed brake deploying. It's even in Boeing training video to not do that.

  • @OfficialRyanx
    @OfficialRyanx Год назад

    That AA 767-300 had a RyanAir pilot on a one-day company exchange.

  • @sophiaahmadfujino6051
    @sophiaahmadfujino6051 Год назад

    i like the fact that the boeing 747 used to be all nippon airways 😊

  • @curtsellers8921
    @curtsellers8921 Год назад +1

    why are these pilot doing manual landings? Isn't auto landing preferred?

    • @gort8203
      @gort8203 Год назад +1

      You must think airline pilots have no need to practice landing. Autoland is for extreme low visibility when the pilot can't see the runway until near touchdown.

    • @stevenbeach748
      @stevenbeach748 Год назад

      99.9% of landings are manually flown.
      Auto land is only at a few airports with only a few airplanes that are equipped.

  • @tetra9173
    @tetra9173 Год назад

    Can someone explain to me why the 747 had to do that?? or was it just more for show?

    • @marksieving7925
      @marksieving7925 Год назад

      Probably a short runway.

    • @daftvader4218
      @daftvader4218 Год назад

      @@marksieving7925 No..non approved landing technique ...Unless you have a nose gear/tyre problem.
      Doing that increases your landing distance...

  • @S1L3NTG4M3R
    @S1L3NTG4M3R Год назад +1

    Thanks

  • @engchoontan8483
    @engchoontan8483 Год назад

    Suspension compression led to tailstrike.
    Trying to lower the rear because the plane floats too long (flaps too much), ground-effect suck-out should be... digital-buttons to throttle
    Avoid tail-strike is to preset elevators to horizon(relative to touch-down pitch) as baseline for trim and use ailerons.
    Which method is convenient.?

    • @engchoontan8483
      @engchoontan8483 Год назад

      Which is why gamers should never be real pilots. We know... stuff...

  • @verifiedtoxicangel2411
    @verifiedtoxicangel2411 Год назад +1

    that 747 keeping the nose in the air was an awesome sight............... BUT WHY????
    no brakes ? no reverse thrusters ? what's with all that fuckin dramatics ?

    • @JaydenB744
      @JaydenB744 Год назад

      Aerodynamic braking.

    • @verifiedtoxicangel2411
      @verifiedtoxicangel2411 Год назад

      @@JaydenB744 i mean why the need for "aerodynamic braking" when all other aircraft use regular braking and reverse thrusters

    • @JaydenB744
      @JaydenB744 Год назад

      @@verifiedtoxicangel2411 They had reversers and auto brakes and still elected to use additional means of braking. Landing distance available, density altitude, weight, exit point etc are all factors they consider.