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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2018
- 'Drive In'' Tony Bastable takes a look at some the heavy duty lorries that are available to the discerning trucker.
First shown: 20/04/1978
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That was our family business, my dad had it for well over 40 years, lots of stories and memories from that place.
Huge organization takeover small business
@Karter Anders yes i dont give a fuck you shitty bot
What happened to the business?
Big companies and corporations have destroyed small business, food shops and clothes retailers since the Second World War. Tesco (founded 1929) and Asda are classic examples.
Better times, nicer people on and off the road, life was simpler that’s for sure.
Hummm
It wasn't.
Nope
Better times without the internet, cheap holidays all over the world, central heating for half the population etc? No.
@@Astro_War I think the impression that people are nastier now comes from the behaviour of the underclass, which is about 10% of society (and shrinking). I can remember the atmosphere being somewhat unpleasant in the Seventies and Eighties.
I can just about smell the unburnt diesel fumes from the exhaust..... 👍 Superb Video 👍
That Mercedes NG at the beginning looks like it was beamed in from the future.
Love his jacket! I kept waiting on the Sweeney to come screeching to a halt in a Granada and knock ten bells out of someone.
lol that was my uncle
Just as long as they're not getting nicked for selling dodgy lorries...
Memories - October 1984, my 21st birthday, driving my first Scania with HGV L plates (dad in the passenger seat). Passed my test soon after. We had 2 very second hand Scania 111’s, and sub-contracted for a large haulier who worked with the whisky industry, and hauled containers. I could also rope and sheet!
What's rope and sheet? Thanks.
@@TheMasterNo6 Roping and sheeting is securing and covering the load on a flat bed or dropside vehicle. It's not a skill needed much in haulage now, but it used to be a big deal as you could haul pretty much anything on a flat bed so you were very unlikely to be stuck for a return load...
My last boss had no idea of roping and sheeting. I used to do it as a 14 year old working weekends for a now defunct local haulage firm contracted to a local extrusion factory, helped the forkies getting the incoming steel coils (then held by loose irons with 2x2 timber not in a recessed bed) could reverse the only single axle trailer we had as well as the twin axle Bodens. 2 green sheets with the fawn coloured fly sheet over the top then drag the trailer off the bay and drop it round the back, if I was lucky they let me play with one of the new AEC Mandators, or on a bad week it would be the “cut down from a 6 leggier” Marshall, happy days and none of it would be allowed now with all the health and safety b/s. (Edit due to damned auto-correct 🙄)
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Hey Pagey! It must be in our dna - My surname is Page!
@@gordonpage1 My dna must be corrupted, had an assessment drive for hgv class 1 and was told that 5 days would see me thru my test, but without the cash ... I ended up driving tube trains instead
That punter Looks like Haskins from the Sweeney
Wow... some of those lorries took me back a bit... i was fascinated by them as a young boy, and would spend hours sat in the front garden just watching them go past, we used to live on a really busy road.. Heppy innocent carefree days....
The British Scammell truck had the best sounding diesel out of the lot :)
yeah that and the transconti :D
Ford diesels never did it for me but they where reliable as fk :)
@@MonkeyHunch1 The big Transcontinental Ford had a 14 Litre Cummins in it, not a Ford engine at all..
@@garethifan1034 Well the cummins engines are great but i don`t think this one was a cummins :) I could be wrong though.
@@MonkeyHunch1 All Transcontis had Cummins in them.
Great video, Even in the 70's it was apparent that British truck manufacturing was doomed, another great industry destroyed by themselves with plenty of help from the government.
Yes such a shame
Foden,, Seddon Atkinson, Bedford, Leyland, & Shelvoke and Dewry, spring to mind.
British lorries were best engineered in 50s and 60s.
Spanish truck industry copied them. Three Spanish "local legends" were copied from British legends:
-"Pegaso" engines were copied under license from Leyland ones.
"EBRO" lorries were copied from "Thames/Ford" ones, also under license.
-"BARREIROS DIESEL" engines were copied from "Perkins" without license, because Perkins engines were not patented in Spain.
Spanish truck industry also collapsed in the 80s, bought by Iveco, Nissan and Renault respectively.
Kind regards from Spain.
The problem was Leyland was committing suicide and ERF,Foden, Seden , Commer etc were building trucks for just the UK market, with no service network who would buy an ERF etc outside the UK.
@@doveronefoxtrot4417 The trouble was they had a UK customer base, but little reach outside the UK they had no service network. This was the thing Scania and Volvo got right, they established a European service and later international service network to drive sales in these markets.
Got to love those Transcons, had three of them at Range Transport in Highbury when I started there in the early eighties. Class 👍
Drayton Park?
@@irishboer7124 Yes mate, I did 9 years there. They moved up to Tottenham for a few years and then vanished without a trace. Hell of a shame.
I’d wear that jacket now. It’s still cool
1978, road, footpath, lorry
2018, road,footpath,massive fence, security cameras,lorrys well away from the footpath due to scum smashing the windows
@Gappie Al Kebabi No one mentioned the muslims though..just you. Though we all know it's true.
Wouldn't mind going back to 1978. Just for a day or two.
Sean harding perhaps three will do
Ps loved the Thames television start - takes me back to watching rainbow aged 5yrs
I was hitch hiking one time to Oxford and got a lift in a Transcontinental, lovely ride.
Lovely bit of footage. Thanks for sharing.
Loved the Scammel Crusader and Ford Transcontinental 😃😃😃
Passed my class 1 in 1976, in an AEC Mandator, 1st work truck was ERF, great times no taco it was still lie sheets (log books), no sleeper cabs sslept across seats, away 3/4 nights aweek on multi drop work, trailers were roped and sheet on load, no mobile phones or sat navs
Wow! Scammel, Seddon
Atkinson, Foden....all gone...
I think Foden were taken over by an American company, and are still produced.
1:35 that Benz lorry sound is same like TATA lorry sound. 👌
I would gladly move all my gear into that Transcontinental right now!
Me too lol
Had a Corgi model of a Transcontinental. In Michelin livery with a little Michelin Man on the roof!
Love the sound of the Scammell...that's a Crusader, isn't it?
But the way they're gunning that Transconti and Merc on a cold start isn't doing them a bit of good, now is it?
Wow an old ford transcontinental the king of all trucks back in the day and the one most drivers would aspire to drive..
Even by todays standards it looks an awesome bit of kit
The Scania 140 was what we all wanted not a Transcon, at least not after having driven one.
@@gegwen7440 Or an F88 or 89
@@garethnisbett8535 Yes the 89 was a nice motor but nothing beat the 140 / 141 for grunt and sound.
@@gegwen7440 I never got to drive a scanny but spent a lot of time with the Volvos back then (1970/80’s)
Wonderful seeing those vintage lorries from the good old days when we were under nuclear threat, they're really a sight for sore eyes and like a familiar friendly face you haven't seen in ages
I remember Prout's, an aunt had a tobacconists a bit further along and she used to say to me and my kid brother to go look at the lorries loaded up with sweets and drinks lol
Passed my Class 1 in a Scammel Crusader..excellent truck..that Transconti...wow.
I was a trailer mate for Dema Glass London and chesterfield lorry no 5918 N U . I Loved the transport cafe's along the A1 back 🔙 in the 60&70 s . I have had a model made of the lorry and trailer bye crafty pop's . The lorry 🚛 was a FODEN and thanks 👍😊 again for your videos .
No annoying DPF,s to go wrong but lots of Tri-lex and. Multi piece wheels to deal with.
Why did it always look dull and cloudy in the 70s
The sun was on strike
smog
necause it WAS cloudy in 70s.
In the summer of 1976 people would have been glad to see some cloud. It might mean rain. Things were so bad that reservoirs were dry and in the southeast they had water rationing. Not a drop of rain for getting on for 4 months as I recall. Just sun and heat. Great you might say. Apart from the lack of water.
That's when Britain was great don't you know.... 🤭🤭
This is gold 👌🏼
So refreshing to hear "Lorry". "Truck" is sickening. Add a good British accent and it's heaven for the ears.
Absolutely it is lorry not bloody truck
Too much USA terms seeping in these days even in the news and newspapers.
@@639704234200009 Truck and Lorry are both British terms, of old English origin.
No mistaking the roar of an old Scammel. There were loads of Scammel 8 wheel tippers driving through my village in the 70s going to and from the vast array of local quarries, all of which are no longer today.
That’s why I’m watching, I noticed the Scammel of which looked to be in ARC livery.
@@shaneraines2094 remember ARC (Amey Roadstone) at a quarry along the Colchester to Tiptree road in the 70s and 80s.
The used to be a company called TMC who had the 8 wheeler tippers, they had loads of them.
ALD (Anglian Land Drainage) also had a small fleet. When Great Braxted reservoir was quarried out in the early 80s there wete loads of Scammel tippers all day long thundering in and out. They all seemed to share out the contracts.
I think TMC changed latet to the Constructor trucks but I recall a mechanic cursing the new model being more difficult to work on than his favourite old Scammels.
I drove a 2004 Mercedes 3847 in Iraq the best thing I liked about that truck was the 16 speed transmission. The engine was ok seemed a little low on power for a 470 horsepower. Rode pretty rough in my opinion
I have driven most of the trucks in the line, particularly liked the Transcontinental.
Loved this!
That Scammell WOW
That scammel is or was great!
Scammel Crusader,lovely piece of kit.
@@fishbmw Proper trucks!
I'd like a Scammell. They were brilliant. Look at those gorgeous trucks. The Ford Continental for example
Wouldn’t you like to go back with a pile of cash?🤣
I drove an AEC Mandator Mk.5. A bit early even for this clip - !
Wouldnt mind that volvo f 88. I drove one back i the late 70s.
Proper trucks back then ,all modern new trucks all plastic bits on them all automatically operated gear boxes give me a clutch any day
@01:07 A R.H.D. Ford truck. Were the speedometers in KMH back then for continental drinking?
No, the tachographs were calibrated in kilometres. When I was driving trucks in the mid- to late-'90s they still were, I needed to be able to convert between km/h and mph in my head as some weren't even marked in mph, or the markings were so small as to be just about illegible. It was far easier to calibrate the tachos to one standard scale right across Europe than worry about having to calibrate to mph for the UK and km/h everywhere else, especially being as pretty much all the approved tachos were made in Europe. Nowadays it's far easier as electronic dashboards can switch between mph and km/h at the flick of a switch, though I think the tachograph records are still done in kilometres...
I wounder how many of them old girls are still going somewhere in the world
I wonder if tony bastable is related to roger bastable of abbey hill car transporters.
The red Ford Transcontinental at 1:28 is wonderful :)
Also sounds like the African Prince Internet scam was alive and well in 1978 at this point in the video :)
Same cab as french "Berliet", I guess. Beautiful truck, I do agree.
And later on, the same cab was used by Renault.
The Transcon is my favourite truck of all time :)
When the Trannie first came out, one came and parked next to me in a lorry park one night. He tried to be all flash, stopping with his handbrake so it was more dramatic. His rear window fell out and hit the back of his head hahaha
I worked for the company had the blue and white Sed Atki, we had a Tranny on demo, with four drivers did 1000 miles in 24 hrs.
Bet Bastaple proceeded to beat the crap out of everyone within 100 yards as soon as the cameras were switched off
Fascinating.
The line about the Cypriots with cash on a suitcase is amusing.... Through the 70s the route out from the UK to Cyprus via Volos or Turkey was notorious as a smuggling paradise. No invoice trail. No identities. No signatures. Everything was for a brother or an uncle. And the cargo was whatever you were being paid to shift. No extradition agreement with the UK (or many other states) depending on which half of Cyprus it was. And done so brazenly that the anecdote makes it onto a TV show with no intended irony.
The Leyland truck factory is still in existence producing trucks under the DAF name. Just Google Leyland truck.
Right. But Leyland brand itself is lost, what a pity.
In Spain same factories that produced "Pegaso", "Ebro" and "Barreiros" nowadays produce Iveco, Nissan and Renault, but we lost local brands as well.
Angel Pelayo As a mechanic I work on many iveco daily vehicles and I knew they were made in Spain, I thought iveco built a new factory, didn't know they took over an existing factory. What was it prior to iveco?
@@lfewell2161 prior to Iveco, Spanish factory produced "Pegaso" trucks in a range from light to heavy tonnage. Pegaso factory was built in the 50s but in the 90s was bought by Iveco (Fiat group) italian owners. Pegaso bought many patents to Leyland in the 60s, so they had British technology.
@@Angel_PC
You are correct of course and i think for a short while Seddon Atkinson got built in Spain.
Not a single bedford to be seen, but then i guess people didn't want to sell them :)
They were outdated by the 1960s, I believe.
+amojak Apart from the ex-dealer demo trucks like the two Ford Transcontinentals most of the trucks they sold were from fleets that had such buying power that they could buy a new truck, run it for one or two years and then sell it to a dealer for a profit. There weren't many fleets in the London area running Bedfords like that at that time so no Bedfords on the forecourt. But if you look back on old photographs there were still a lot of big companies running them in every configuration from 5-tonners (the MoD had tens of thousands of Bedford TKs into the late '90s/early 2000s) up to heavy haulage tractors and all-wheel drive tippers. A lot of companies that ran them, though, bought them for the long haul, Pickfords removals were still running 20+year old TK removal truck into the 2000s...
+Silent Hunter That's not true at all, the Bedford TK was so good when it was launched in the early '60s that Ford pretty much copied it for the D-series. The TK outlasted the D-series and its replacement the Cargo and was still selling decently into the mid '90s when GM axed the Bedford name and quit building lorries. The last of the trucks were sold under the AWD name round about 1995. Bedford was also about the only company building all-wheel drive trucks for the military that would also sell them to civilians, something which just about every truck manufacturer worldwide does now. Just because the trucks might have looked old because they used the same cab design for years doesn't mean anything, Bedford used the money saved by doing that to develop and improve the chassis and running gear, making the trucks more powerful and more reliable and it worked, off the top of my head I can think of six large companies in my area that still run Bedford or AWD products in front-line service...
The white removal truck is a Bedford marsden I drove one on the furniture
Some classic trucks there
3:10 - why is the Mercedes badge upside down?
It was a used lorry so it isn't gonna be perfect
Nowadays, if you saw a Merc on the front line of a dealers it wouldn't have the star on it as some scumbag would have nicked it...
The African prince has since wised up and now deals with the moped 🏍 gangs of today hence the huge shipments 📦 of mobile phones and bike parts.
Oh yes , never thought of that , is that what they were driving round loading up for him...
1:21 - Did all Scammell trucks have front-mounted exhausts?
May have been a fuel hauler.
it will have been moved because it probably was on tanker work.
Not all of them, as others have said those used for hauling tankers had the front mount exhaust, and so did those used for hauling the bulk tankers for the big concrete producers, which is where that one came from, I suspect, judging by the colour...
Transcontinental, brilliant truck, had more space than the solar galaxy itself, well against a aec it did, one of tallest trucks in its day , what happened to our truck manufacturing, it was there to see they were years behind, the tranconti. And few others like erf and foden tried but we lost the seddon and the atkinson and guy and ofcourse the aec, , yes seddon and atkinson were two different trucks before merging , happy days
At 1.06 still got my kienzle key
I'm Alan partridge...
why is the audio quality as good as a HD video
Nagra recorder?
Trucking brilliant
No Ford D series that's a shame mind you probably shows how popular they were you couldn't get a second hand one enjoyed it anyway more please 😊👍🏻
Especially the V8 version - nice machine.
0:33 reminds us of The Oval 😁
Thats the way start it up and rev the nuts out of it!
Dont see many truck sales on the main road in suburbia now 😁
1:29 - Princess in the background?
That Nigerian prince probably put them out of business.
On the contrary he was a very good customer for a very long time.
He keeps writing to me trying to give me money
He never said Nigerian. Just African. Lol
Wonder if any of the specific trucks shown have survived all these years? Probably a good chance that the ones that went overseas are still around. Poorer countries aren't so wasteful as us western countries. In New York state here in the US, they destroy perfectly good government-owned trucks just because they don't meet new emissions standards. Enormous waste.
where does the past go??
nice lb 80 and 110.
Volvo f88 ford trans scammel good stuff
Red Guy big J in back ground towards end ex S&R smith&robinson my late father drove for them
Only one British lorry company exists now and that's Leyland Trucks which is branded as a DAF and part of Paccar
Love the Ford conti !! .... great truck.
If that guy put all them lorries into a barn and got them out today he'd be a millionaire many times over..
Seems 30 tons was a popular figure for some reason.
Where is this please
it was in the Old kent road in London
Company wound up in 1993.
3:12, they don't make African princes like they used to. African prince the elder used to buy used trucks from a London Forecourt, now his grandson always seems to need 4 grand from you for some reason.
Alan Partridge
Don't know what's funnier, driving a globetrotter 4 shopping at Fortnum and Mason for prince (of Bel-Air?) Or trying to convince me that Fiat is part of the commercial big 4, (we all know that FIAT means Fix It Again Tomorrow)😂😂😂
what. no aec trucks or bedfords.
@Linda Gray hi. yes the Bedford Detroit was unusual but good. I had a Bedford rl with petrol engine which was brilliant.now 20 years on I have 4 dinky toy rls just as good.
what happened to truck divisions of Fiat and Ford?
mipmipmipmipmip now under the iveco badge.
Iveco
Why as an American mind you does the 1970s and 80s Great Britain seem like it was amazing much like our US 40s through 90s
at the time "air conditioning" meant warm air supply.
Look at all the choices if you wanted a transcontinental
some of the cars in the Italian scenes of The Godfather are also right-hand drive!
Wasnt Italy rhd in the early years of motoring? Or they couldnt make their minds up so had both at one point!?
Also italian trucks before 1976
@@stuco81 It was for easier maneuvering on mountain roads if I'm not mistaken
oh sorry that is exactly what they say in the video lol
Before the completion of motorway network ordinary roads was very busy, xpecially inside towns, and the right hand drive was a factor of confort and safety...
Notice only one British Leyland truck the big Scammell
The most desirable now as a classic i`d guess. I like that one the most anyway, I just commented on the engine tone.
Revving the guts out of them from start
A lot of cab over truck
It seems the company has folded. Why?
My dad sold up and retired.
No AECs then.
100,000 km on those lorries? it's barely even broke in 😂
'Jurassic park'!
Back when trucks were trucks, before all ‘Euro’-crap set in and ecu’s etc etc…..
African princes😂😂😂
so thats what they were doing before email....
Mayor Khan would have a fit .
Rose tints are fine but in reality you wouldn't want to go back and drive anything British like ERF, Bedford, Ford Transcon, D series, Leyland, Sudden Accident ect, they were all pretty hideous compared to Volvo& Scania who were years ahead of the game..
Those trucks so smol, American were way cooler Kenworth or Peterbilt.
Yes, but you couldn't turn an American tractor around in the average European delivery yard, let alone the trailer as well. A friend of mine runs a towing company and they have a Peterbilt wrecker, they can only operate it out of head office because manoeuvring it in any of the other yards requires about a 300-point turn and half a tank of diesel. That's why you don't see many normal control or bonneted tractor units in Europe, and most of those that you do see will be on special work rather than over the road haulage...
back in the 70's my dad drove an Atkinson borderer and his mate drove a scammell crusader for a rival firm, no power steering, today's drivers would have a meltdown.
Man why is it every time I watch one of the 1970's Thames videos they look under-lit, depressing, dirty, and grungy??? All those trucks look sad, ones in America at that time were a lot bigger, lots more chrome, lots more style, the drivers kept them clean/polished.
0:28 "There's an African prince on the books", yes the good old 70's when everyone and everything was racist...
If someone was a prince and was also from Africa, he was an African prince. Nothing racist there. Now the poor prince has become a racist problem to PC-Newspeak.
@@matekochkoch Took the words right out of my mouth! 100 percent correct unlike starfartblast.
Some things never change European lorries still look bloody ugly compared with American big rigs.
ugly but practical!
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